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Hi Rad,
I was looking at the upcoming change of the nodal axis transits and was thinking of what it means for the Pluto in Virgo and Pluto in Libra (only thought of this two but of course each generation will have its unique context).
For the Pluto in Virgo, with the Uranus and NN in taurus trines (at least by sign, and grand trine to transit Pluto) I am getting the feeling, and seeing practical examples, this is a moment where so many in this generation are being called to have a fundamental role in the solutions the planet needs in order to start healing and improving, in all areas but specially issues concerning our survival and ecology, so the ones feeling the call in this generation should take the steps they feel are needed in order to help, would you agree? And also virgo tends to need time and practice but for this generation many have already had or are having their second Saturn return so they will have the wisdom and experience to do it! I am hopeful many will take the lead :-)

For the Pluto in Libra generation I have some questions because I was trying to analise the transit looking at the ruler of the SN and NN, bearing in mind the SN and it's natal ruler will bring issues of the past and the NN with its ruler will present ways for the future, although with the Pluto Libra, the south node transit calls Pluto but the north node ruler is also the background ruler, of that same Pluto.
How can we look at it in general? I see the theme is on the relationship with oneself/others specially outlined for this generation but also as reflection in the social issues. Would it be a way to look at the transit that with Pluto libra the north ruler can be actualized in a way that also brings forward the whole past through that ruler? Ultimately the general need for social balance and equality. Or on the other hand evolution can stagnate with Pluto locking the nn ruler, keep it in the issues of the past? Ultimately social privilege?

Also, of course when the south node transits Scorpio everyone will be called to deal with its own greatest resistance so we can expect a fierce upcoming months...

I appreciate your words on this if you can share it.

Thank you,
Helena

Hi Helena,

For the Pluto in Virgo, with the Uranus and NN in taurus trines (at least by sign, and grand trine to transit Pluto) I am getting the feeling, and seeing practical examples, this is a moment where so many in this generation are being called to have a fundamental role in the solutions the planet needs in order to start healing and improving, in all areas but specially issues concerning our survival and ecology, so the ones feeling the call in this generation should take the steps they feel are needed in order to help, would you agree?

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Yes

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For the Pluto in Libra generation I have some questions because I was trying to analise the transit looking at the ruler of the SN and NN, bearing in mind the SN and it's natal ruler will bring issues of the past and the NN with its ruler will present ways for the future, although with the Pluto Libra, the south node transit calls Pluto but the north node ruler is also the background ruler, of that same Pluto.

How can we look at it in general? I see the theme is on the relationship with oneself/others specially outlined for this generation but also as reflection in the social issues. Would it be a way to look at the transit that with Pluto libra the north ruler can be actualized in a way that also brings forward the whole past through that ruler?

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Yes, and the specific sign that, with it's aspects to other planets, Venus is in that symbolizes how each individual in that generation can do this.

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Ultimately the general need for social balance and equality. Or on the other hand evolution can stagnate with Pluto locking the nn ruler, keep it in the issues of the past? Ultimately social privilege?

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Yes, but this would be much more about individual self interest relative to survival issues versus what the whole of the planet needs for the entire group of humans to survive. This would include a variety of groups of people, for example corporations, whose sole and only focus is what they perceive to be in their own self interest in order to survive.

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Also, of course when the south node transits Scorpio everyone will be called to deal with its own greatest resistance so we can expect a fierce upcoming months...

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Yes, where resistance is a function of the perception of self interest vs the needs of the whole.

God Bless, Rad

Thank you Rad!

This brings me to another question I have had for a long time I think I never posed, about if we can consider the generations who are having a Saturn return to have a fundamental influence in the general atmosphere and collective consciousness relative to their natal Pluto? For instance in this case the generations with Pluto scorpio are having their first Saturn return and that somehow be a prevalent force for establishing the "sign of times"? From an astrological perspective it would make sense considering the south nodes of Pluto and Saturn are conjunct in Capricorn but this is also a Neptune theme, and this nodes are not in Capricorn for ever, so I wouldn't know if this is accurate.

All the best Rad,
Helena

 Hi Helena,

I  have decided to post an extract from JWG's book on Uranus that correlates to the Saturn cycles relative to the Uranus Cycle in order to provide for a complete understanding of how these archetypes manifest in all of us. This will include the Saturn return cycle. I feel it's best to answer your questions about the Saturn returns in this way versus a few lines that would not adequately address the totality of what your questions imply. Let me know if you have any further questions.

JWG wrote this book in 1986. I mention this because the stuff he wrote about in the future,  from the point of view of 1986, all came true.

God Bless, Rad

                                                    Uranus and Saturn Cycles

Question:  Would you discuss the Uranus transit with respect to its opposition to itself?

Sure.  This transit correlates to the famous mid-life crisis as experienced in many people.  It generally occurs between thirty-eight and forty-three years of age.  Why do most people experience it as a crisis?  What is the crisis really about?  And what and how are the best ways to respond positively and constructively to it?  What is its meaning within the total 84 year cycle of Uranus?  Since we always have to understand everything within context, and Saturn correlates to the overall context of one's structural reality at any moment in time, how do we understand the transiting cycle of Uranus as it interfaces with the transiting cycle of Saturn?

The first dynamic or archetype we should examine is the interrelationship between the Uranus and Saturn cycles in order to understand the structural foundation that induces the psychological and physiological effects when Uranus is opposing itself through transit. 

Uranus has an 84 year cycle, and Saturn has a 28 year cycle.  It takes 3 complete Saturn cycles to equal one Uranus cycle.  Relative to the prime vertical and horizontal lines within the 360 degree zodiac, Saturn archetypically induces structural reality stress to itself every 7 years:  7, 14, 21, 28, 35, 42, 49, 56, 63, 70, 77, and 84.  Uranus induces the need to be free from that which is, the freedom from the known, at 21, 42, 63, and 84.  It is interesting to note that the space probe of Uranus revealed that the "seasons" on Uranus have a 21 year cycle.

At 21 Uranus is forming a first quarter square to itself, at 42 it forms the opposition, at 63 the last quarter square, and completes the cycle at 84.  At 21 Saturn is forming a last quarter square to itself, at 42 it is in opposition to itself, at 63 it is in a first quarter square, and at 84 it has completed its third cycle.  This interface between Uranus and Saturn thus correlates to natural transition points in all people's lives, whatever their personal, social, or societal context may be.  The best way to answer your question is to define the ARCHETYPES at these natural transitional junctures.

21 years

The first quarter square correlates to a crisis in action.  The last quarter square, according to Rudhyar, correlates to a crisis in consciousness; a crisis in belief.  Thus, the interface between Saturn and Uranus correlates to a need within each of us to determine our own beliefs which in turn determines our overall lifestyle, direction, and way of being within the context of the society and world that we find ourselves in.  This archetypal need zeniths, for the first time, at this point in our life.  To a large extent our sense of beliefs has been conditioned by our parents, regional and national context, and the subconscious memories of other lifetimes up until this point in time.  What one believes determines what one values, how one sees and judges life in general, how one relates to others who may or may not hold the same beliefs, and basically correlates to the nature of one's goals, ambitions, and way of being in life itself.  At this evolutionary juncture, the individual needs to separate or rebel from the all the conditions that have shaped his or her beliefs in order to define new beliefs.  The new beliefs will reflect the ongoing evolutionary progression of INDIVIDUATION (Uranus), and the beliefs that are NECESSARY in this life to facilitate the actualization of what the essential purpose is for the life.

Remembering that Saturn correlates to TIME and SPACE this juncture symbolizes an acceleration of the emotional and social maturation process in each of us.  The separation (detachment, Uranus) from our family of origin (Saturn/Moon) is accelerated.  The need and developmental crisis to determine our own beliefs in turn intensifies the crisis relative to what direction do we go in at this point in time. Thus, at 21, we experience a detachment and restlessness (Uranus) that allows us to step back and reflect upon where we have been (our childhood), and where we want to go from here.  This is our first chance to make decisions that will determine our OWN life directions, our first chance to decide what it is that we actually believe and value.

The beliefs and values we decide upon now will condition our state of being and structural reality for many years to come.  This is very important to understand because most people (70% or so)  DO NOT individuate (Uranus) at this time. Most seek to individually define themselves relative to the prevailing peer group, and what the peer group (Saturn and Uranus) believes and values from a consensus point of view.  This 70% feel like they are individuating because they are at least rebelling, to various extents, from their parent's lifestyle, beliefs, and values by experimenting with new ideas, ways of looking at life, ways of being in life. 

Yet, they are not really questioning themselves to the point of defining independently and uniquely what it is that they really do believe and value.  Thus, the decisions concerning life direction, goals, and lifestyle are subtly unique extensions of the prevailing peer group.

Generally 30% of people at this point attempt to define beliefs and values in relationship to who and what they sense themselves to be, independent of peer group pressure. Generally, these people will experiment with a variety of ideas, philosophies, life experiences, different types of people who reflect a broad range of the total sociological spectrum.  In effect, this group is essentially open-minded about life and what life is.  They are not willing to settle upon any fixed values or beliefs at this point in time.  Being at this juncture this group is mostly aware of what they are NOT.

42 years

At this juncture both Uranus and Saturn are in a transiting opposition to themselves.  The archetypal intent of this symbolism is to step back and detach from all that has come before, and led to this point in time. The full phase opposition archetype correlates to the need for MEANING, RELEVANCY, and COMPLETION.  It is at this juncture that the famous mid-life crisis manifests.  For the 70% or so who did not question independently what it was that they actually believed or valued, the mid-life crisis is based upon two primary dynamics:

The individual suddenly and unexpectedly finds him or herself standing back in fundamental detachment from what constitutes the totality of its structural reality.  This detachment induces an increasing restlessness, irritability, desire to be free from one's existing obligations and duties, a desire to change many aspects of one's life which intensifies, and is ultimately suppressed in most, BECAUSE OF the nature of one's obligations and duties.  There is a loss of meaning, relevancy, and weariness (completion) because one has suddenly become aware that he or she has been living a life whose values and beliefs were extensions of the peer group.  This being the case, there is a need to fundamentally redefine one's beliefs and values.  This in turn creates a need to alter one's sense of identity.  Altering one's sense of identity leads to the need to change life directions, goals, and general lifestyle.  This archetypal need serves as yet another opportunity, in this life, to deeply question and reflect upon oneself. This in turn allows for the individuation of the Uranian impulse to manifest, this impulse attempting to break us free from our conditional reality (identity).

It accelerates the psychology and physiology of aging.  Saturn is a co-ruler of the pituitary gland.  This gland regulates the functions of the entire organism, including the progressive degeneration or aging of the system.  At this juncture we become sharply aware that we are at mid-life, that our youth is receding, that we have an increasingly limited amount of time to live, and that our mortality is perceived in sharp relief.  In females the aging process normally 'signals' the beginning of menopause, and in males the waning of their sexual energy or interest.  These developments certainly can induce a mid-life crisis in many. 

Even though this mid-life crisis manifests in most people for the above reasons, most suppress it and carry on with their lives in a kind of stoic resignation to their lot or fate in life (Saturn).  To radically alter (Uranus) life at this point in time, given the obligations, commitments, and duties that are in place for most at this point in our lives, is just too much to seriously (Saturn) act upon (Uranus and Saturn).  However, this crisis has at least promoted an awareness, despite how uncomfortable it may be, within this 70% of people whose lives have been defined within the context of their contemporary peer groups, of how and why they have arrived at this point in time with their lives.  A small percent of these individuals WILL manifest the courage to break free and liberate from any definition or condition which does not reflect their essential identity. This is initially accomplished through an increasing awareness of what the person IS NOT.  This awareness will promote desires to experiment (Uranus) with new ideas, experiences, and people that symbolize realities outside of the status quo (Saturn). The burst of experimentation will progressively give way to settling upon ideas/philosophies, values, and a general lifestyle that symbolizes and reflects who the person actually is, or is becoming:  the deconditioned self.

For the 30% or so who have already attempted to define (Saturn) themselves outside of the status quo (Uranus/Saturn), this juncture will still produce the need to detach from the immediacy of one's life.  Restlessness and the temptation to withdraw from the conditions of one's life can manifest in most of this group, these psychological symptoms reflecting the awareness of mortality. The awareness of mortality reflects the restrictions/constrictions of time (Saturn).  This awareness thus induces the temptation to withdraw from the immediacy of the conditions of one's life in order to reflect upon it, to detach from it.  The need to detach produces the restlessness.  The need to reflect (Saturn) upon one's life is linked with the need to adjust, change, or radically alter any condition which restricts (Saturn) the future (Uranus). Since this group has already manifested the evolved ability to define themselves in various ways outside of the status quo realities.  The mid-life crisis associated with the increasing restriction of time, mortality, induces this need to alter the course of life where necessary.

63 years

At this juncture the transit of Uranus will be forming a last quarter square to itself, and Saturn will be forming a first quarter square to itself following the second Saturn Return at 56 years of age.  Here again we have the archetypal themes of a crisis in consciousness (last quarter square) linked with a crisis in action (first quarter square).  This juncture symbolizes the transcendent archetypal need within the entire species to WITHDRAW in total from the DUTIES and OBLIGATIONS of this life, one's worldly obligations.  The liberation, or freedom from the known, of Uranus is experienced in this way at this juncture.  This need is actually programmed into the RNA and DNA structure of the human organism, the genetic code. 

Accordingly, the organism produces hormones and enzymes that have the effect of not only accelerating the aging of the organism, but of producing an overall state within the consciousness that progressively withdraws from the time and space associated with this life. This psycho/physiological archetype thus induces the 'crisis' associated with the last and first quarter squares.  This crisis occurs in most, 70%, because this group has been caught up in, and defined by, the general nature of the times, the contemporary peer group.  How one has defined oneself on a daily basis through the sheer momentum of time, this definition reflecting the beliefs and values of the contemporary peer group, now begins to change at this juncture.

The crisis involves the psychological resistance to the genetically programmed withdrawal from what has constituted one's life so far.  This resistance is based upon a psychological rebellion (Uranus) from the inner and outer knowledge that one is aging and becoming old (Saturn).  Outwardly, one's worldly position and authority (Saturn) is being undermined or displaced by younger peoples.  In contemporary Western cultures this translates into enforced retirement, in most cases, from a career point of view, and displacement linked with the role of parenting as one's children are normally self-sustaining adults at this point in time.  One normally becomes, or is, a grandparent at this time.  These types of displacements enforce withdrawal from the immediacy of what has been the life so far.  The crisis in action now reflects the need to plan (Saturn) life directions that are very different (Uranus) than what they have been thus far, directions and goals that are not linked with career, family, and the duties, obligations, and sense of personal identity that has gone along with them.  These plans and directions will include the intensifying awareness that one's time to live is rapidly decreasing.

This crisis interfaces with the crisis in belief, or consciousness.  This interface occurs because the displacements associated with the archetypal need to withdraw simultaneously induces experiencing one's inner and outer life differently (Uranus linked with Saturn).  Withdrawal enforces or induces detachment from what has been the life until now.  This in turn enforces or induces reflection (Saturn) upon all the dynamics that have constituted one's life, particularly one's values and beliefs.  The reflection associated with detachment or displacement thus leads to the archetypically induced question of, "What has my life been about, what has it meant, and what am I meant to do now, from here?"  These questions have the archetypal intent of inducing a universal (last quarter square whose momentum moves towards the balsamic conjunction of Uranus to itself at 84) awareness; to abstract one's existence from the immediacy of what has thus far been, and to philosophically expand one's conscious frame of reference to include and understand one's life from a cosmological point of view.  This shift of focus within the individual's consciousness is meant to happen within all peoples throughout modern times.

This shift of focus within the individual's consciousness will progressively create the effect of experiencing time differently (Saturn linked with Uranus at this juncture).  As one progressively detaches and withdraws from the immediacy of this life, one becomes more philosophical and muse oriented; less concerned or reactive to the immediacy of it.  This intrinsic and natural archetype is why older people are considered honored elders in all cultural societies other than the complicated, modern societies of the Western world. 

Cultures that have this archetype thus allow for the older people to feel important, useful, and still providing a meaningful social and family function.  Considered elders, these individuals are thus allowed to impart the natural wisdom that life itself brings by simply living it, each time.  The natural universalization of consciousness that occurs from this juncture forwards thus allows for these individuals to impart a universal guidance and wisdom to the younger ones.  This role and function is important to any culture or time.  When provided for by the culture itself, the sense of crisis is diminished in the individual as he or she ages, thus the rebellion towards aging is also diminished.

The crisis associated with this juncture mainly is a current modern phenomenon associated with complicated, cosmopolitan Western cultures and societies.  In most recent times, the role or elder has increasingly diminished in these cultures.  Thus, these cultures have no tradition (Saturn) that is taught to their children that includes the role of the elder.  This tradition had been, and still is in most cultures outside of the Western modern cultures, taught or passed on by the actual role modeling of the grandparents, and older extended family or tribal members, by the very nature of the position that they have, elders who are respected and consulted.

Since this is not done in the Western cultures of today the rebellion, confusion, and crises occur because the individual is not culturally prepared for it.  Thus, this produces many individuals who attempt to carry-on with what they had been doing up until this juncture, to try and maintain their careers as an example.  A current sad example that embodies all of these modern Western problems is the case of Ronald Reagan, and until recently the old men in the Kremlin.  Since modern Western cultures have broken from the natural archetype of this juncture, we also have the specter of warehousing the natural elders in 'old age' homes, nursing homes.  The violation of the archetype thus produces all the current modern problems that more and more of the elders are experiencing; Alzheimer's disease, senility, a sharp and biting cynicism, strokes, heart attacks, despondency, gnawing depression, emotional withdrawal, childlike or dictatorial behavior reflecting the need to be perceived as special.

This phenomenon will occur more and more until the repeating 'signals' or messages are heeded in such a way as to reinstitute the natural archetype within the species that allows for the correct position of elders to occur.  This will inevitably occur not because of some grand re-awakening to this need amongst the 70% whose identities, beliefs, and values have been individual extensions of the contemporary peer group.  It will occur because of financial necessity.  As will be explained when we talk about the 48 year cycle of Saturn and Uranus, ie these two planets form a transiting conjunction to themselves every 48 years or so, we have been living in increasing materialistic times.  Thus, for material and financial reasons this 'warehousing' effect will end.  The specific circumstances that will induce this are based on the reality that within 30 to 40 years the majority of the population in modern Western cultures will be 'senior citizens.'

For the 30% who have already attempted to define themselves outside of the status quo, and who have redefined as necessary their own status quo at 42 years of age, this juncture can be responded to in the way that it is archetypically intended.

84 years

At this point both Uranus and Saturn have returned to their natal positions.  Saturn has completed 3 complete cycles.  The number 3 symbolizes creation, sustainment of that which has been created, and death of that which has been created:  the trinity.  Thus, combined with one complete cycle of Uranus, the symbolic completion of one life cycle.  The actual withdrawal process from the immediacy of this life began at 56 relative to Saturn's second return to its natal position, and accelerated at 63 with respect to Uranus.  Since that time a progressive MUTATION has been taking place within the consciousness of each individual who has lived past the age of 63. The mutation is symbolized by the movement of Uranus from a last quarter square to a balsamic conjunction with itself at 84. The archetype of the balsamic phase is one of mutation and completion of an entire cycle.

The mutation of consciousness means that one state of being is changing into another state of being, one state of consciousness into another.  This is facilitated through the programmed withdrawal from the immediacy of each life's duties, obligations, worldly commitments, etc.  This withdrawal progressively promotes a different experience of time and space.  The mutation of consciousness promotes a progressive shift of focus within the consciousness, from being totally identified with and caught up in this life.  The shift of focus induces an awareness of TIMELESSNESS within the consciousness.  Accordingly, the individual is living almost totally WITHIN themselves at this point in time. 

For those who have not been plagued by the various psychological problems as mentioned earlier at the 63 year juncture, this can be a time of experiencing pure consciousness that is simultaneously a reflection of that which has been in this life, and, at the same time, utterly removed from it:  just consciousness being aware that it is conscious.  It is this state that Uranus attempts to achieve ALL THE TIME in ALL PEOPLES.  At this juncture some people experience it no matter what their personal pasts have been.  This juncture's archetypal intent is to DECONDITION and LIBERATE the individual from what the life has been, thus, the mutation. This mutation will allow for a new set of conditions to occur in the next life.

Some individuals will still be very active, or active, at this point in time, and possibly for more years to come.  The activity, whatever it may be, is itself experienced differently relative to the above dynamics and archetypes.  Some of these individuals actually serve as ICONS to others, or many others, to inspire and emulate.  For those who live past 84 years of age, who move into Uranus and Saturn separating from the balsamic conjunctions, the seeds of the next life are already being planted in this life.

Another very important cycle is the Saturn/Uranus cycle relative to their conjunction every 46 to 48 years or so.  This cycle is important to consider for the sign at the conjunction blossoms into full glory at the opposition 22 to 25 years later, becomes actually absorbed in mainstreams society for 8 to 10 years after that, then progressively begins to wane and ultimately mutate into another conjunction/social tone and focus.

The specific social tone and focus is relative to context.  Thus, whatever the existing sociological context is in all the various regions, cultures, societies, and countries will determine to what the specific social tone and focus will be at the time of each conjunction.  A simple review of recent history will illustrate this principle.

The last conjunction of Saturn and Uranus took place in 1942 in Taurus.  The opposition point to this was during the last five years of the 1960's, the absorption into mainstream social reality the 1970's, the progressive waning leading to mutation in the 1980's, the next conjunction scheduled for February 1988 at 28 degrees of Sagittarius, the center of our galaxy.

The essence of the Taurus archetype is one of personal values, inter-personal relatedness with oneself, the instinct within the species to procreate in order for the species to survive, the instinct to survive in general in each person, the personal and material resources necessary to effect survival, self-reliance or sufficiency, and the need to stabilize whatever is unstable.  These Taurean archetypes became socialized needs on the planet in general when the Uranus/Saturn conjunction occurred in that sign in 1942.

The progressive, cyclic, and continuous sociological transformation and liberations from that which has constituted mainstream, status quo reality is effected by the youth of every culture or society.  At the conjunction of Saturn and Uranus millions of souls are born who contain the seed of change for the culture or that they are born into, a new individual and social vision.  This group of people, as a generation, progressively rebel in various ways against that which has been the status quo.  Since this group constitutes the leading edge of change, the conjunction of Saturn and Uranus will produce some within this group who are truly iconoclastic leaders who can be perceived as threatening by the prevailing leaders maintaining the status quo.

The last conjunction took place at 28 degrees of Taurus, and then reformed conjunctions in the early degrees of Gemini.  In the Western world one of the primary vehicles through which the new social vision was, and still is, projected is music.  Since the initial conjunction took place in Taurus, the original need, music itself was destined to be revolutionized.  By having a repeating conjunction in Gemini following the original conjunction in Taurus, the revolution in music was destined to be spread far and wide; the new individual and social vision communicated in new ways through a new music.  Some of the original iconoclastic leaders who presented this new individual and social vision, those who have the conjunction of Saturn and Uranus in Taurus or the early degrees of Gemini, include Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell, Paul McCartney, John Lennon, George Harrison, Ringo Starr, Joan Baez, Jimi Hendrix, Art Garfunkel, Paul Simon, Janis Joplin, and Mick Jagger.

Of course the vehicle of music reflected the revolution that was taking place in personal and social values, sexual values, use of resource issues, individual and planetary (social) survival issues, procreational issues, economic issues (possessions necessary to effect survival), emotional security issues based on stability/instability dynamics (World War II was in place at the time of the conjunction), and emotional or physical dependencies versus self-reliance issues.

Since the social context of that time was World War II the conjunction of Saturn and Taurus SEEDED the necessary adjustments within the souls born into that time.  These seeds began to also grow immediately as a consequence to the actual circumstances of that time:  the atom bomb was born.  The atom bomb was developed as a consequence of species survival. Oppenheimer, the original person who conceived the bomb, thought that if this device could be built and in the hands of a benevolent force, there would be no more wars.  This 'invention' has radically altered human survival issues forever.  The spin-off technologies that have followed from the original splitting of the atom have also had, and will continue to have, far reaching impacts relative to survival issues.  The issue of what to do with nuclear waste itself has not been solved.  The issue of how much national resource to use and dedicate to munitions development is still creating imbalances in overall resource allocation in many countries, the major players obviously being the USA and the USSR. 

The survival issue reflected itself during the War obviously, and after the war.  Japan and Europe were devastated.  The Jewish race and European Gypsies were subjected to the extermination policies and insanity of Hitler.  The Soviet Union was utterly depleted.  The South Pacific had to be rebuilt.  The survival need led to the US financing and policing the rebuilding of Japan, Europe, and the South Pacific, primarily the Philippines.  The Soviet Union claimed Eastern Europe in order to have access to the material resources, and people resources, in order to rebuild itself and to survive as a dominant nation on Earth.  The great volume of death produced from the War generated an accelerated birth of new souls,  the "baby boom" of the late 1940's and early to mid-1950's:  procreation linked with survival of the species.

The acceleration of the birth rate worldwide created its own survival issues relative to depletion of the soil, and the wholesale cutting down of forests, particularly the rain forests of the equatorial belt.  This in turn has set in motion an acceleration of land that is becoming desert and progressively uninhabitable.  Enough food cannot be grown to feed the increasing population in already economically depressed areas.  This combined with an imbalance in overall resource allocation, in the most powerful countries, leads to famine and death.  This is actually a form of population control based on imbalance.  Birth control devices are another, governmental regulations concerning procreation (China) is another, abortions yet another, and the increasing numbers of people who are becoming infertile in modern, sophisticated societies all reflect these survival issues from a procreational, and food producing point of view.  It is interesting to note that the increasing infertility of peoples in complicated, sophisticated societies is based on the cumulative stress (Uranus) associated with the mainstream values that emphasize "getting ahead" with respect to status (Saturn) and monetary (Taurus) issues.

Survival issues are reflected and symbolized in our times by many things.  Everything from the food (sustenance) we eat, to the fossil fuels (Taurus) that are used that are producing an accelerated heating in the atmosphere relative to the building up of carbon gases.  This condition will ultimately radically alter the surface and climate of the Earth, as well as the living organisms that live on its surface.  And isn't it interesting that our nearest neighbor, Venus (the planetary ruler of Taurus), empirically reflects the worst case scenarios of carbon gases in the atmosphere.  Is there a message or signal in this symbolism?

The generation that was born with the Saturn/Uranus conjunction contains the SEED of the "new age."  This new age is a direct consequence and necessity because of the above issues, and more.  The seed germinated souls who have had radically different ideas concerning individual and social values, social structures, sexual values and lifestyles, inner-personal and outer-personal ways of relating, planetary and individual survival issues, etc.  The opposition point to the original conjunction took place in the mid to late 1960's. At that time Uranus had transited Virgo to the sign Libra, Saturn moving from AQUARIUS through Taurus. Neptune was in Scorpio, Pluto in Virgo.  The seed generation, and those who followed, had become late teenagers and adults at twenty-one years of age. 

It was this "flower power" and "free love" generation that radically altered modern societies everywhere with new visions, values, ideas, philosophies, lifestyles, music, appearances, and confrontational demands to change "the system."  And, of course, the system reacted violently at first, only to succumb and assimilate the new ideas into the system itself.  It was then that most of us heard of the dawning of the Age of Aquarius.

As the new ideas, values, etc. became assimilated during the 1970's into mainstream culture they lost power, steam, and momentum. The generation that heralded the changes began to age.  After the downfall of Nixon in the US, and the retreat from Vietnam, there was no immediate stimulus to maintain the energy and focus of what had occurred.  Personal survival issues of the generation that brought in the new visions, beliefs, and values began to dominate as they started having children. 

This led to jobs versus being students or drifters. Jobs focused attention upon money issues because of the bills associated with the life of a householder and family, etc. etc. etc. Even at its height this "counterculture" revolution never constituted more than 30% of the total population. Yet, because this particular group of people was so powerful and dominant, the impact upon the traditional mainstream was pervasive;  remember the psychedelic 7-Up billboards? etc., etc.  The waning tide of the "counterculture" thus allowed for the phenomenon of the Reagan era in the US, and increasing conservatism everywhere except in already existing conservative countries which have slowly been becoming more liberalized.

This has taken place since the original Saturn/Uranus conjunction reached a balsamic phase in November, 1980.  At the same time Uranus was transiting the late degrees of Scorpio, Saturn the early degrees of Libra, Neptune the last degrees of Sagittarius, Pluto moving within the orbit of Neptune, and in Libra.  The social consciousness reverted to the opposite extreme (Libra) of what had preceded it for economic (Scorpio) and philosophical (Sagittarius) reasons.  Relative to context, this reversal of extremes lead to a mainstream collective need to re-orientate to 'traditional' values, beliefs, customs, norms, and taboos.  This collective mainstream reaction to the mid-1960's through the bulk of the 1970's was based upon many factors, factors which created a mainstream collective insecurity based on a uneasy sense of instability.

The collective instability was based on economic reasons, the revolution in relationship dynamics that occurred while Uranus had been in Libra, ie "free love," which led to accelerated divorce rates, women demanding to be treated as equals in all spheres of life, radical alterations in sexual lifestyles leading to new sexual diseases, and the growth of the sex industry which became accelerated when Uranus moved into Scorpio, following Neptune's movement through it.  Neptune's passage through Sagittarius symbolized a massive growth in human freedom and human rights of all kinds, freedoms and rights that all peoples were intrinsically entitled to as long as they did not impinge on anyone else's rights. 

It also lead to massive philosophical or religious idealism and extremism, the liberalization of the Roman Catholic Church, the increasing collective awareness of international interrelatedness which was enforced through economic confrontations (Uranus in Scorpio), shifts in economic power bases leading to trade shifts, and the transference of money to different groups internationally and domestically; the oil cartels of the Middle-East, the rise in Japan's economic power, the stability of the US economy essentially dependent on "foreign" investment – this leading to a collective sense of becoming 'powerless' because of the undermining effect this produced – the acceleration in the merging of corporations in many countries, the redistribution of wealth into the hands of fewer and fewer, the acceleration in the inflation rate in many countries, and so forth.  It is for this and many other similar dynamics that a collective insecurity and instability manifested.

Thus, as the Uranus/Saturn transit reached a balsamic condition in November, 1980 relative to the original conjunction in Taurus in 1942, the collective mainstream needed a sense of stability in many countries that had modern Western values and beliefs. Thus, a reaction leading to conservatism, traditional values, slogans reflecting 'nationalism,' patriotism, "new" economic philosophies, ie supply side economics, and beliefs.  Thus, the US elected Reagan, Canada elected Mulroney, England elected Thatcher, West Germany elected Kohl, Iran produced Khomeini which reflects the religious conservation of Islam, from a sectarian point of view, as reaction to Western values and beliefs which had been spreading throughout much of the traditional Islamic world, the political right returning to power in Australia, the Roman Catholic Church returning to conservative doctrines, and so on. 

Meanwhile, in countries that had been very conservative and authoritarian till this point in time, ie the prevailing sociological context, a mutation (the balsamic archetype) is manifesting in which a liberalization is underway, a liberalization reflecting the need for more freedom.  This began to occur while Neptune was in Sagittarius, and accelerated since Uranus has transited the sign relative to the balsamic phase with Saturn.  We see this now in China, South Korea, much of South America, the Soviet Union of all places, etc.

We could go on and on illustrating these dynamics.  However, at this point in time, Saturn and Uranus are preparing to form another conjunction in November, 1988 at 26 to 28 degrees of Sagittarius. As the balsamic condition of Saturn and Uranus gets closer and closer to this conjunction, all the issues mentioned, and many more, will come to a head and demand individual and collective decisions.  Nuclear energy and waste issues, food and resource distribution issues, distribution of wealth issues, planetary survival issues relative to the atmosphere, ocean, and land, procreational issues, the proper use of technologies, planetary cooperation issues relative to political, philosophical, and religious differences – the need here is for the Sagittarius vision of unity in diversity, not unity in sameness – and the need for various groups within all societies and nations to allow for the INTRINSIC RIGHT of any group or person who has different ideas, beliefs, and values to exist so long as they are not trying to impose them on another group.

The conjunction of Saturn and Uranus in Sagittarius will set the social tone and focus for the next 46 to 48 years.  Immediately following this conjunction, the two planets will move into Capricorn until 1996.  Uranus will transit into Aquarius, and Pluto into Sagittarius at that time.  Neptune will transit into Aquarius in 1998.  The conjunction heralds the need to elect political leaders who have a centrist vision that will allow for unity in diversity, versus unity in sameness.  The delusion of extremist agendas is the notion of stability and security in blind conformity, or imposed conformity to whatever the philosophical or religious basis is of the extremists agenda. 

This delusion will only promote increasing polarization of groups within national boarders who are not in conformity with the extremists agenda (ie the "new" age movement versus the religious fundamentalists), and internationally as the cry and delusion of nationalism polarizes the planet.  The conjunction of Saturn/Uranus in Sagittarius means a liberation from such a delusive philosophy, and the raising of individual and collective consciousness in all lands through education; education that promotes a general (Sagittarius) awareness (Uranus) of the planetary survival issues (existing context) so that the status quo (Saturn) can change with respect to new political leaders (Uranus/Saturn in Sagittarius) whose vision addresses all of this.  If this happens, the future (Uranus) will preclude all the doomsday scenarios that most of us have been exposed to.  If not, then the possibility of such scenarios manifesting will increase as Saturn and Uranus join Neptune in Capricorn, with Pluto being in Scorpio. 

If you doubt this, simply read and review history when this pattern has been in place before.  The great opportunity now (Saturn and Uranus in Sagittarius) is to LIBERATE from the cycle of history repeating itself.  This opportunity exists because we are in the midst of AGES mutating; the Pisces Age becoming the Aquarian Age.  Anytime Ages mutate, the opportunity to break from the previous cycle exists.  The last time we had a mutation of Ages was when Jesus of Nazareth was on the planet.  As he stated himself, he was here to usher in a New Age.  Jesus, according to the rectified birth time of Donald Jacobs who was a theologian and astrologer, had not only 6 planets in Pisces but the South Node in Scorpio conjunct Neptune in the 11th house, Sagittarius rising, with Saturn conjunct Uranus in Pisces.  And, yes, Mercury was in Aquarius.  Let us hope that this Aquarian, Sagittarius and Piscean vision becomes mainstream Capricorn reality so that the close of the Piscean Age can reflect Jesus' vision of the UNITY of all peoples in all lands!

Hi Rad,

Thank you for referencing this. It's interesting I went to read it again (part of this text) just the other day, relative to Saturn/Uranus opposition as I am now finishing my own Saturn/Uranus oppositions, as well as people born around same time with the natal last quarter square, and this is occurring simultaneous to transit squares and natal opposition transits of the same planets. It is certainly not a coincidence for example that the book the The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind and Body in the Healing of Trauma , a revolutionary book on healing trauma is on the top non fiction books for more than one hundred weeks by last year, 27 of them n.º1 on that list. Incredible translation for Uranus in taurus square Saturn in Aquarius, with great relevance for us with the opposition transits for sure.
Re-reading the text also reminded me of Sir David Attenborough, with a natal disseminating trine between Saturn and Uranus, now an icon in pointing the future relative to this same transit square, as JWG puts it relative to his age, and indeed all came through...
Nonetheless, I read it so many times that now with your post I thought it would help me resume it as i read it again, so I'll share the resumed topics bellow, maybe it can help others too when needing to refer to it. (I hope it's an accurate summary, if not please let me know and I'll correct it.)

I still have some questions relative the Saturn return and overall meaning for the whole generations in the collective consciousness.
Could we say that Saturn return, functioning as a gravitation force, calls Pluto in such a way that they do establish the tone for the intentions of that Saturn and Pluto? Intentions that are then something the others will gravitate to as signs of times? Or is it something of more personal relevance, specially at the 1st return?. Meaning, right now Pluto scorpio, Pluto virgo and Pluto cancer have a preponderous force, universal themes, relative to their Saturn returns in Aquarius, in accordance to the overall Saturn/Uranus cycle of individuation, redefining status quo and liberation through a mutation of consciousness not only to themselves but eventually for whole others? (I understand this is a Pluto Libra question  )
I do ask not only as a general question but also in the context of the south node transit to Pluto in scorpio of the upcoming months, and what it can all mean too, specifically.

And to have this in mind is really important...
" Let us hope that this Aquarian, Sagittarius and Piscean vision becomes mainstream Capricorn reality so that the close of the Piscean Age can reflect Jesus' vision of the UNITY of all peoples in all lands!"


Thank you Rad,
Helena

P.S. I'm noticing also, this upcoming north node transit will revisit the 28º Taurus conjunction of 1942, how do you see us still picking up from there?

Hi Helena,

The first Saturn return correlates in general for all Souls to actualize the underlying evolutionary intentions for life being lived: this life. Of course all Souls must do this in the context of the reality, Saturn, of the cultural contexts/ country that they have chosen to be born into. Within this that actualization of the evolutionary intentions is conditioned by one of the four natural evolutionary states that any given Soul have evolved too.

This is true now matter what sign any Soul's Pluto is in.

All Souls of course live in time, the current moment, the existing and changing sociological conditions of not only their own country, but the planet itself. All Souls have and do choose their time of birth thus the 'times' they they have decided to live within. The nature of the times serve to trigger and ignite each Soul's evolutionary dynamics that reflect the ongoing evolutionary needs of their country of birth, the regions that they live within, and for a certain percentage the needs of the planet itself.

The second Saturn return, in general, correlates to the evolutionary need to begin to withdraw from all of the circumstances they have created for themselves as a reflection  of the life they have chosen to live, and to allow for the younger generation that has been born after them to begin to fulfill their own destinies as this relates to the needs of their country of birth, the regions with them, and for a certain percentage the global of planetary needs. In this progressive withdrawal  the evolutionary intention in so doing is to reflect upon, and to continue to learn from, the very nature of the life that has been lived until it's physical ending takes place. This is necessary in order to set up the dynamics that will define all Soul's next life: their on going evolutionary journey.

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I'm noticing also, this upcoming north node transit will revisit the 28º Taurus conjunction of 1942, how do you see us still picking up from there?

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The underlying archetype being triggered in this is one of survival, and the needs at any level of personal or collective reality the correlates with that survival.

God Bless, Rad

   

Hi Rad,

I was revisiting this thread in the face of the recent Ukraine/Russia developments and it's absolutely incredible the issues JWG brings relative Uranus Saturn cycles all came true, as you mention. I wonder if this  "The Soviet Union claimed Eastern Europe in order to have access to the material resources, and people resources, in order to rebuild itself and to survive as a dominant nation on Earth." is history repeating itself relative to the nn transit and would like to ask what is your opinion of this, the overall meaning for world democracies of this actions by Putin, who in fact from what I checked has now a transit nodal square his nodal axis and conjunct his skipped step of Jupiter in taurus.
Can we see this transit of Pluto in new phase to it's own south node and in the last degrees of Capricorn as the last efforts for plutocrats (for better use of the word) to re-iniciate a new cycle of dominance, and do you see it succeeding? (in the next years?)

Thank you,
Helena

Hi Helena,

I was revisiting this thread in the face of the recent Ukraine/Russia developments and it's absolutely incredible the issues JWG brings relative Uranus Saturn cycles all came true, as you mention. I wonder if this  "The Soviet Union claimed Eastern Europe in order to have access to the material resources, and people resources, in order to rebuild itself and to survive as a dominant nation on Earth." is history repeating itself relative to the nn transit and would like to ask what is your opinion of this, the overall meaning for world democracies of this actions by Putin, who in fact from what I checked has now a transit nodal square his nodal axis and conjunct his skipped step of Jupiter in taurus.

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Yes, it is. WW2 officially started on Sept 1, 1939 even though the build up to that date was happening for at least two years prior. That date correlates with Germany invading Poland. The underlying issue that correlates to this time is one nation, Germany, occupying other countries and thus changing the boundaries of nations/countries themselves. Mars was in Capricorn at that time for example.

Putin's invasion of Ukraine which is underway now correlates with the changing of boundaries of a country right now. Mars is again in Capricorn. WW2 formerly started with Uranus at 21 Taurus, and the transiting N.Node was at 1 Scorpio, S.Node 1 Taurus. Now we have the Nodal Axis in reverse with the S.Node now at 26 Scorpio,  N.Node at 26 Taurus. This reversal reflects among other dynamics and issues a going back in time to recover something that is being brought forwards into this time: the boundaries and resources of other countries to be used by another country that is invading those countries for such purposes.

Relative to Putin he has, as you pointed out, Jupiter in Taurus squaring his Lunar Nodal Axis in Leo/Aquarius. First, without going into great detail here, he was a general in his last life in Russia who was responsible for rebuilding the Red Army into the fighting force that it became. He has Pluto conjunct his S.Node in Leo which is also conjunct his natal South Node Lucifer which is at 1 degree Virgo in his 10th House. Pluto is in his 10th House, S.Node in the 9th. Both square his natal Jupiter in  Taurus in the 7th, and Venus in Scorpio in the 1st, and of course these also square in N.Node.  This is a Soul who has desired power for power's sake, and would do anything in order to gain that power including making Faustian deals with Evil.

In this life he has now deluded himself into a messianic vision of himself so as to restore the former Soviet Union prior to it's break up in the 1990's. Thus, to restore those former boundaries, and their resources, of countries like Ukraine, and others. He has Sun, Saturn, Mercury and Neptune in Libra in his 12th which correlates with the messianic delusion. They sextile and trine his Lunar Nodal Axis, and are inconjuct that Jupiter in Taurus in the 7th. In essence a Soul who is convincing itself of just how powerful it is, a Zarathustra.

He has been living in recent in his own ivory tower, so to speak, and surrounded himself with yes men who only reinforce whatever his delusions are about. He controls the entire country including it's media to enforce the lies and propaganda that he generates in order to enforce his lies and delusions on the people that live there thus creating a feedback loop in which everyone agrees with him.

So the transiting Lunar Nodal  axis combined with the Uranus transit is setting all this off now relative to Ukraine and other countries that we part of the former Soviet Union. The former general is now in total charge of the country of Russia so that history is repeating itself.

The existing democratic nations on Earth will all fight to sustain and maintain their democracies
because of what Putin is doing.  Of course in many countries there is a type of human being who psychologically desires and needs autocratic types of governments in order to feel individually secure. In some countries, like Russia and China, and others, those types of humans are in the majority. In other countries they are in the minority yet in some these types of humans try to rebel in one way or the other against the majority and the democratic governments that they create and have.

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Can we see this transit of Pluto in new phase to it's own south node and in the last degrees of Capricorn as the last efforts for plutocrats (for better use of the word) to re-iniciate a new cycle of dominance, and do you see it succeeding? (in the next years?)

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It will succeed in countries that have the majority of their populations with the types of humans that need autocracies in order to feel individually secure. In some countries like the USA that have governmental structures that allow the minority to control the  majority is where the potential for civil wars exists.

God Bless, Rad

Hi Rad,
thank you for taking the time to explain this. It's so important to notice that mars, Uranus and node transit in that perspective, I didn't knew that, and gives it total meaning from an astrological point of view.
So I get from what you reference that what we have here is a chart of the biggest thief, in his case of Jupiter taurus 7th opposition venus 1st scorpio, and both square the nodes and Pluto, invading all kinds of boundaries of others and nature because he feels entitled to do so. Of someone who had absolutely refused development of self-sufficiency and acceptance of natural limitations within that self-suficiency because his beliefs is that power is stolen, be it from others or Nature's resources (the 7th and taurus), this then escalated to the absolute power he now has in his country (and the powers within that contract?) Can I ask if the north node in Aquarius, moon gemini 8th, references in his case for a split soul situation? I get his Lucifer at 16 libra right between sun and Saturn and still conjunct neptune in the 12th, when you say 1 virgo is the sn of Lucifer in balsamic conjunction to his Pluto and sn? Would this say feeling like a nobody from evil's perspective and influence and then forming a deluded narcissist zarathustra to compensate coming way back from the past?
It's interesting this is starting right after Angela Merkel left position because it is said she was the only political adversary he respected (feared) and she indeed is the image of very well drawn boundaries "don't mess with me" kind of soul immanence and she indeed has Pluto in the 8th, Saturn 10th scorpio and moon Aquarius 2nd ruled by that Saturn, which is also right on top of Putin venus. It's a really interesting synastry.

How do you see transit Saturn opposing Putin's Pluto and the nodal transit square becoming effective? I was in the hopes, together with chiron starting to oppose all the libra and Saturn going to the 4th house that he actually was not going to be much popular within his country (at least from young people) but I imagine is whisfull thinking...

Thank you Rad,
Helena

Hi Helena,

So I get from what you reference that what we have here is a chart of the biggest thief, in his case of Jupiter taurus 7th opposition venus 1st scorpio, and both square the nodes and Pluto, invading all kinds of boundaries of others and nature because he feels entitled to do so. Of someone who had absolutely refused development of self-sufficiency and acceptance of natural limitations within that self-suficiency because his beliefs is that power is stolen, be it from others or Nature's resources (the 7th and taurus), this then escalated to the absolute power he now has in his country (and the powers within that contract?)

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Yes.

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Can I ask if the north node in Aquarius, moon gemini 8th, references in his case for a split soul situation?

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Not sure what you mean by a split soul situation. If you mean a fragmented soul manifesting as different personalities that answer is no. His N.Node in Aquarius in the 4th is ruled by Uranus in Cancer in the 9th which is then square all those Libra planets in the 12th including his natal Lucifer. In essence correlates to how he interprets factual reality where the factual reality is interpreted by his delusional beliefs which then serve as his rationalizations for that which he does. For example, remembering that he was a powerful Russain general in his last life in WW2 helping Stalin build up the Red Army to take on Hitler/Germany, he has just stated that one of the reasons he is invading Ukraine is stop and prevent the 'nazification' of Ukraine itself. This is an example of taking something from the past and projecting, Uranus, Aquarius, into the present where it does not belong. It's delusional.

This utter delusion of course illustrates the point of taking existing reality and interpreting  it according the the inner delusions that exist within him. With his S.Node of Lucifer in Virgo in the 11th this correlates to a deep inner sense of inner inferiority that is then projected upon  the world, others, in such a way that this inferiority must be compensated for. Compensation in EA correlates to Jupiter, the 9th house, and Sagittarius.Thus with his Jupiter in Taurus, ruled by the Venus in Scorpio that opposes it in his 1st house, and both square S.Node in Leo in the 9th, his Leo Sun in the 12th which is then conjunct that Lucifer S.Node in his11th, the compensation has manifested as as becoming a defacto Czar of Russian itself that has absolute power to do what he wants.

The compensation manifests as desiring to 'prove' to the world just how powerful  he is relative to recent history in which he and Russia has been isolated by the world in many ways. Thus an inner reaction to that fact by doing what he is doing now. What he is doing now being reflected in his messianic delusions of grandeur, all those planets in the 12th including Lucifer, wherein he has convinced himself that he is the 'savior' of Russia by trying to recreate the 'greatness' of the former Soviet Union.

So now he is even threatening the entire world by saying that anyone who attempts to interfere with what he is doing in Ukraine will be meet the 'consequences that the world has  never seen'.  Of course Russia possesses a vast nuclear weapons. This would be like, imagine  this, Hitler having nuclear weapons. 

This psychological acts of compensation are, in essence, to prove to himself that he is not inferior in anyway, but, in fact, the most superior human on the planet: a Zarathustra.

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I get his Lucifer at 16 libra right between sun and Saturn and still conjunct neptune in the 12th, when you say 1 virgo is the sn of Lucifer in balsamic conjunction to his Pluto and sn? Would this say feeling like a nobody from evil's perspective and influence and then forming a deluded narcissist zarathustra to compensate coming way back from the past?

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Yes, but the feeling of being a nobody, inferior. is generated from within his own Soul which is determinant, cause, of him making the contract with Evil in order to gain all  the powers that will then compensate for that inferiority.

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How do you see transit Saturn opposing Putin's Pluto and the nodal transit square becoming effective? I was in the hopes, together with chiron starting to oppose all the libra and Saturn going to the 4th house that he actually was not going to be much popular within his country (at least from young people) but I imagine is whisfull thinking...

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That Saturn transit is manifesting as almost the entire world opposing him, with all the sanctions and other consequences that are mounting against him, and through extension, the country itself. The consequences to being isolated by the world in this way will of course affect the people that live in that country which in turn  should manifest as a significant and increasing amount of the population opposing him.

Yet it is being reported that even now this evil, evil Soul is having his 'security' services arrest anyone protesting against what he is doing.

This Saturn opposition will manifest, as it is now, as changing the world order and empowering NATO and the European Union to unite as never before. Another Cold war will be a consequence of what this evil man is doing. The transit of the N.Node of Lucifer is 23 Aquarius, the S.Node is 11 Leo, and Lucifer itself 7 Sagittarius.

God Bless, Rad

Hi Rad,

Thank you again for explaining all this so clearly. I was checking the 5 am Ukraine chart for the declaration of invasion and as you mention, that Lucifer at 7 Sag, was exactly conjunct transiting moon...

Let's hope for the best,
Helena

Hi Rad and All,

I was looking at Zelesnky chart, Ukraine's president, and for those who like to look at asteroids it's interesting to share that asteroid Ukraina (1709) is in Zelensky's at 26 Gemini, exactly conjunct his Jupiter in the 1st house and also conjunct his asc at 21 gemini. What's more interesting is that transiting Ukraina is at this moment also at 26 Gemini, which then would be exactly opposite Putin's mars in sag.
It's really impressive how asteroids (Source) tell us the story to a factual degree...
Rad, would you agree that if there is any fatedness to astrology, besides the septiles, etc., asteroids are also in this quality?

All the best,
Helena

Hi Helena,

Yes, in any given life the Soul intends to create certain 'fated' circumstantial realities that are necessary from an evolutionary and karmic point of view in order to continue it's ongoing evolution. Remember what JWG said about fate: 'Fate correlates to events that will happen no matter no matter what one does'.

Zelenskyy's Jupiter/ Ukraine conjunction is now receiving a transiting inconjunct from Pluto in his 8th house as well as to his natal Saturn at 28 Leo in his 3rd: a transiting 'finger of God'. In his last life he was the Marshall of Poland, and Commander-in-Chief of the Polish military during WW2. At the very end of that life he sneaked back into Poland after being in a kind of exile in Hungary he came back to Warsaw to participate in the resistance movement as a common underground soldier, thus voluntarily suspending his rank as Marshal of Poland. He came back incognito.

I would like to post the below to illustrate just how delusional Putin is now, and how the prior life as the Russian general helping Stalin to rebuilt the Red Army.

God Bless,  Rad

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'It's not rational': Putin's bizarre speech wrecks his once pragmatic image

Analysis: President makes appeal to Ukraine's military to abandon its 'drug-addicted, neo-Nazi' leaders

Andrew Roth in Moscow
26 Feb 2022 19.30 GMT

Looking dead-eyed into the camera on Friday, Vladimir Putin gave one of the most bizarre speeches of his 22 years as Russia's leader, a directive that managed to sound alarming even in a week when he has ordered tanks into Ukraine and missile strikes on Kyiv.

"Once again I speak to the Ukrainian soldiers," he said, addressing his enemy. "Do not allow neo-Nazis and Banderites to use your children, your wives and the elderly as a human shield. Take power into your own hands. It seems that it will be easier for us to come to an agreement than with this gang of drug addicts and neo-Nazis."

The speech seemed to be ripped from an alternate reality – or from the second world war, where Putin appears to be spending more of his time as he launches the kind of broad military offensive not seen in Europe for nearly 70 years.

All this week, Putin's megalomaniacal tendencies have been on display like never before. He has summoned his aides for a surreal national security council that resembled a television reality show and launched tirades about Lenin and decisions made nearly 100 years ago.

He has also, for the first time, spoken about his maximalist goals in this war: regime change in Kyiv, toppling the government of Volodymyr Zelenskiy and replacing it with a more pliant leadership. Putin's call for a coup in Kyiv indicates that if Russia wins this war, Zelenskiy will almost certainly not remain in power. How he achieves that is anyone's guess.

A number of analysts predicted this as Russia deployed more than 60% of its ground forces to Ukraine's borders and demanded concessions that could never be granted.

But Putin's unhinged appearances and apparent drive to war have raised questions of whether he remains a rational leader.

"Despite Crimea and everything else, Putin had always seemed an extremely pragmatic leader to me," said Tatyana Stanovaya, the founder of R.Politik. "But now when he's gone in this war against Ukraine, the logic in the decision is all about emotions, it's not rational."

What's going on inside Putin's mind? His own words give us a disturbing clue .. Michel Eltchaninoff. Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/25/putin-mind-words-russia-victimhood

Those emotions are deeply rooted in history and the historical injustices suffered by Russia. Dmitry Muratov, the editor of Novaya Gazeta, said he saw Putin as a man with "a historical map in his mind and a plan to use his military to achieve it".

Central to that map is Ukraine, which he has described as an artificial state. "Modern Ukraine was wholly and fully created by Russia," Putin said in a historical sleight-of-hand, "namely Bolshevik, communist Russia."

To help picture it, state TV ran a map earlier this week showing Ukraine cut up to represent which parts were "presents" from various leaders, including Stalin, Lenin and Khrushchev. Some commentators said it represents the partition that Putin himself might be imagining if he gets his way.

While once the map may have been viewed as fantasies or media trolling, a western diplomat based in Ukraine on Friday pointed to his speeches and to that map as a serious sign that Putin was weighing up a dismantling of the country.

"He is not pretending any more. For the first time I think he's revealing who he really is," the diplomat wrote

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And this:

The antisemitism animating Putin's claim to 'denazify' Ukraine

Jason Stanley
Guardian
2/26/2022

The Russian leader's pretext for invasion recasts Ukraine's Jewish president as a Nazi and Russian Christians as true victims of the Holocaust

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/25/vladimir-putin-ukraine-attack-antisemitism-denazify

And this because Putin's biggest fear of all is for the Russian people to rebel and turn against him: https://www.rawstory.com/hundreds-more-arrested-across-russia-on-day-2-of-anti-war-protests/

Hi Rad,

Thank you for sharing that. I was studying Zelensky last life that you mention and am amazed at the repetition of the core themes... From what I understand in that life he did initially defeated the Russians in a first battle and later was unable to win the another battle to both Germany and Russia from lack of support of European countries and major communication failures.  What's interesting is that now he does have to stand on his own again but since the world has change a lot he is indeed supported from all democratic countries and even groups like the anonymous group who is trying to wreak havoc on Putin's propaganda media and communications system, and also having the support of a major billionaire who said yes to assuring internet for the country if their communications are damaged on the ground, etc.
Zelensky does have most planets coming through his sun venus Aquarius conjunction in the 9th which are then ruled by Uranus scorpio in the 6th (and neptune also in the 6th sag) - serving the highest democratic ideals yet through great crisis, I would say. I's also quite astonishing that Zelensky's Lucifer at 25 sag is exactly Putin's mars. In that life Zelensky also had mars rx in virgo conjunct the NN and that ruler, mercury is now his natal SN... What a crystal clear past meets (battle) future when one chart, Putin's, has Pluto conjunct south node and the other Pluto conjunct the north node, Zelensky's. Symbolic sky high indicators of democracy vs autocracy.

I have seen the article you posted and thought it was exactly what you said and I also think is very interesting to see it is getting to the main public this symptomatic notion that this man is not sane and living in reality but transported to the past. Russian people that do not buy it and are manifesting in the streets are also true heroes I am hoping discontent grows. Do you see the country turning on him? It is quite difficult to imagine under the regime he built but... Here is an article also pointing that way https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-war-russia-vladimir-putin-miscalculation/

Hoping history can rewrite itself in new ways.

Thank you again Rad,
Helena

Hi Helena,

It would take an increasing amount of severe consequences to the Russian people themselves, their daily lives, that would generate a situation wherein the vast majority of it's peoples created a situation where Putin would be forced from office: which would also mean and require that it's military people, those in command, would remove him from power in one way or the other. As you know he is doing now everything he can to repress the truth in their media, to generate yet more propaganda, and arrest anyone who opposes him.

And now this messianic madman has put his country on high nuclear alert.

God Bless, Rad