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Hi Ari, Chengting and Anyone Else

I am here to open discussion on psychological abuse, with high probability of involving sexual abuse too as it relates to the nodes in the second and eighth houses, for my reference transiting; compounded by Pluto ingressing 8th house, forming square to natal Pluto, Neptune entering the South Node sign, and eventually Uranus ingressing intercepted Taurus in 12 (with n. Ch. Rx.)

# What I am stating here involved fleeting interpersonal/ social instances, events broadcast on national news that shattered the mind of the nation (involving minors and young adults), some actions I took, and how this entire cycle is manifesting on my natal chart. Astrologically, highlighting the mutable cross to me and yet remaining a mystery as to it's persistence or my involvement with it even.

1) Pluto's ingress into Capricorn created (0*Rx) a family crime case where the parents murdered their young school girl and also their male domestic help. The case created fear psychosis across society especially young children right in their homes. The case remained unsolved owing lack of conclusive evidence in face of the police mishandling the crime scene, which was reflective their own highly panicked state. With Jupiter ingressing Scorpio the court here finally dismissed the case letting the prisoned parents free, a movie having been made (highly acclaimed for an unbiased dual version method) in the meantime. The court judgement was right on the ingress, and I thought it was so weird, only that it somehow protects the family cellular constitution while leaving justice to it's right invisible to us, or hitherto, place. Nevertheless it was a shock.

2) Right at the Pluto ingress I was uncharacteristically thrown into thinking about child-sexual abuse by a couple of direct sources leading me to numbness thinking (intuitively) about a third. It just looked weird to me that this is what I am suddenly thinking about, having neither a direct future role in addressing it nor any preparedness or interest in me to be so spontaneously preoccupied with this strange no-sense land. That time lasted a week and then passed.

3) With the South Node and Jupiter visiting Gemini, I voluntarily got into correspondence with someone I had known at the Pluto ingress place (workplace, event - resignation, on the cusp of the ingress) - reason the last event of mental preoccupation this time equally suddenly fully erupted in my conscious being (without emphasis on logic or intuition and involving all),  triggered from all sides - a campaign program on television tackling the subject, very new effort in my country on a pan-national level, and layers upon layers of turning of events that could not even fill 15minutes of clocked time on the hazy but recorded date. What finally resulted in the correspondence at my end was an inability to sleep for weeks altogether, without struggling or any health effects showing.

4) With Saturn's ingress into Scorpio, applying conjunction to my natal Sun (I didn't have astrology then but was pursuing transdisciplinary academics in consciousness evolution), a brutal most violent act struck the country again - a barbaric #*#* of a very young medical student by a group of men in a moving public vehicle in a socially acceptable hour of 10pm. One of the culprits was a minor. The abuse was finished with full medical autopsy level experiential actions (the level of brutality) and the nation went into a coma. Actual and official, everywhere. I was on holiday and I got a very Neptunian distance view of it as a mention, and between friends we spent time addressing the level of consciousness issues and the crisis that erupts as a result, in tears and tremors too but we stayed where we were, and I noted per chance that "this is so far away, and yet, the true place."

5) By next year, my life underwent major changes, the start of them. Busy with prepping for my thesis, my institute lost its govt. tie-up (govt. negligence, and except for thesis the engagement with the institute could continue), and all my online life (accounts) got hacked - a stalker, remaining invisible yet confirming his identity arrived on the scene. Nothing has changed in this situation and I have had my Nodal Return, Saturn has gone through my 7th Sag, Uranus is in Taurus and the Saturn-Pluto-SouthNode conjunctions have happened (8th-9th natal): previous/now relatively inactive friends, parents and siblings (they maintain stoic denial but action-based acceptance), have been taken into the fold and the poof of stalking reflected through mass media (only something the known people can be privy to).

Now my interest or point here is not how disturbing (on account of any answers and of course also the extreme instability and danger that this looks an expression of/for) is - having lived through it and also with it for so many years now doing different projects/life engagements that even shift friendships and take me from one location to another on stable purposes, I've had no choice but to give up on being the solver of it:
What in my natal chart, or me even has corresponded with such an implosion, or explosion, of sexual abuse, psychological abuse, family abuse, ill-fated means etc while personally affecting me too via concerned citizenship through ghory unprecendented acts? This co-relation I get to see in my life, perhaps being made to pay even, life around me, and now as an astrology student (self-based) right across a pattern in my natal chart.

Since what affects me was scripted by me (sarcasm/and still objective after all these years of feeling attacked) on my tr. N.N. and tr.Jupiter in first house Gemini, also 2nd house cusp, year; and where it is actually coming from is Pluto in Capricorn/Saturn transits etc via Scorpio and 8th house; is my dilemma about no involvement in sexual abuse (sufferer) and yet been exhumed/suffused with it like a discourse (and therein suffering it) have anything to do with my 2nd house-8th house axis. Given I am Scorpio Sun 6th house?

It's too intriguing, too big to accept on oneself (no matter how you look at it), impossible to solve anyway, but absolutely accurate on astrological transits - and that too for me personally.

I could post my natal chart but am not sure I will be able to  (technically stunted for the time being). But I can write my birth details.

# If the post is sort of unmanageably wide or personal/deemed sensitive, or doesn't look relevant, first I apologise because I am new at expressing both my learnings and my blockages here, and if not, your engagement with all of the above cited might just really contribute to my basic question/and-or position!

Regards
Gauri

Hi Gauri,

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The reality of what you are sharing that has taken place in your country is of course is horrendous. And your personal story within it is of course extremely painful. It might be helpful for you to seek out a qualified EA professional to help you understand the 'why' of it all. This is indeed the strength of what EA is, and what sets it apart from other forms of astrology. The understanding of the why does not take away the pain in dynamics like this for most. But it does help to have an understanding even within the pain.

God Bless, Rad

Hi Gauri,

During my discussion with Ari, a child sexual abuse news in my country spreaded all over the social media. 3 years ago, a young female writer taken her own life and left an autobiographical novel which is a portrait of a young girl has been sexual abused by her teacher. I remember her SN is in Cancer 2th house,conjunct Chiron, Saturn in Aquarius 8th house, Venus in Aries 10th house squaring nodal axis.

As with you, recently transiting Saturn goes into my 8th house, transiting Pluto hang around the cusp of 8th house, quite frequently all my fears rush  to the surface. However I am not as painful as you, maybe the time has not come yet?

Thank you Gauri for sharing your painful experiences , knowing that in advance I can get ready for the coming future.but take care of yourselfðŸ'–ðŸ'š. As Rad said, understanding does not take away the pain in dynamics like this for most. But it does help to have an understanding even within the pain.

Blessings
Chengting

Dear Rad and Chengtin,
Thank you for getting on this thread for me. I read your replies early on, felt the power of even simple acknowledgement and took the time to pause to really know what I had shared, or why even, thinking I will soon reply with any closing points or expression I could find. But strangely life got so busy and I was left with no energy to muster an honest participation.

Now, a piece of good news - true to the transits that demanded rest and contemplation (and almost control and direct energy), a heightened easeful flow opened me up to a particular musical memory, a creation of a filmmaker now elderly, and just the poster of his film opened up clues after clues to what I am dealing with. I found him online, a happy generous spirited sharer, expressed my thanks, and we ended up having a bit of a personal life-work/lessons exchange! It's been so healing, my chart as I was calling it out-explained. So this person provides me with a Saturn (from him) and Jupiter (from me) sextile that takes care of my out-at-sea dilemma...

Starting off on where we were, yes, I never quite intended to discuss my chart per say, and couldn't track the right post for newcomers (I did try), but only meant to cite it as a contextual case of an independent problem that might be linked or addressed 'under' the axis in question (2nd-8th. It was a whole lot, and I myself see that the universal transits are stoking a lot of this anyway, so perhaps there was something in this particularly (axis study) that I have missed or need to begin to study.

I must express that being reminded or referred back to the 'why' was also very helpful. I had never thought of it like that.

Chengting, countries differ and provide similar examples of the same base all the time. Painful is a small part of the more turbid mind prospects that relatively smaller collectives often subject us to enduring or mitigate ourselves in - it's pain we can't even feel, until we do; hence the haunt. Physical life will ensure it's pauses and cessation thus alleviating some of the burden. So, the why, and the point of EA as I am beginning to get to know.

Hope you all are well and engaged.

Regards
Gauri