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Hi Rad.  I too would like to participate in this thread.  It's Wendy.

Hi Rad,

I have a question about the North Node of the Moon as it correlates to new choices. Wouldn´t the transiting North Node and Natal North Node correlate to the necessary choices to be made, and intended direction for evolution to occur, but the actual choice making correlates to Pluto as it correlates with desire, free will and thus choices?

Thank you

All the best

Hi Wendy,

Of course you are welcome to participate. Welcome back.

God Bless, Rad

Hi Skywalker,

"I have a question about the North Node of the Moon as it correlates to new choices. Wouldn´t the transiting North Node and Natal North Node correlate to the necessary choices to be made, and intended direction for evolution to occur, but the actual choice making correlates to Pluto as it correlates with desire, free will and thus choices?"

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Yes, and remember too it is the Soul that is the director of the evolutionary show in the first place: the birth chart chosen by the Soul, the timing of the evolutionary unfolding as symbolized in all the transits of everything, and so on.

God Bless, Rad

Hi Upasika,

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I would suggest that each of you reflect now on where the Lunar Nodes have just been: Aries/ Libra. Reflect on the houses they have been in in your own birth chart, and reflect on the planetary rulers of these Nodes in your birth chart, and the aspects they make to other planets.

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"When you talk about the natural planetary rulers of the lunar Nodes, I take it you're not meaning the transiting planetary rulers. For instance the currently transiting lunar South Node in Aries has as it's ruler Mars.

However it's not the currently transiting Mars in Virgo that we need to look at. It's where Mars is in our natal chart by house and sign, and the aspects our natal Mars is making to our other natal planets, that we need to look at - to see dynamics that have defined our past in other lives ... dynamics that possibly have been (and are still being) re-activated while the transiting South Node has been (and still is) in Aries. Correct?"

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Yes. But this can also include an examination and understanding of the S.Node of Mars as well. Additionally, the transit of Mars, the ruler of Aries of course, correlates to the timing of apparent events, internally and externally, that correlate with the underlying evolutionary dynamics that have been set in motions by way of the house that the transiting S.Node is in. We will be going into this more as we develop this thread: one step at a time.

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"And just to check ... so when the transiting lunar South Node changes soon into Pisces we would then stop looking at Mar's location and aspects in our natal charts and switch to looking at where Neptune is in our natal charts, and it's natal aspects?"

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Yes. And, again, the S.Node of Neptune, and the transiting Neptune as well. We will be going into this more in a bit.

God Bless, Rad

Hi Rad,

I do relate that it needs to be one step at a time, just wanted to get clarity before we got too far down the track regarding the transiting lunar node rulers - whether that referred to the natal planet or the transiting planet. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

blessings Upasika

Hi All,

Our next step in understanding this perpetual tension between the Soul's past and it's future as experienced in each moment in time that is symbolized by the transiting Lunar Nodes is to connect them to the South or North Nodes of the natural planetary rulers of the Lunar Nodes. With the S.Node of the Moon just ending it's transit in Aries the natural planetary ruler is of course Mars. The natural planetary ruler of the N.Node of the Moon is Venus since it is in Libra.

We want to do this in order to understand the totality and depth of the past that is shaping and defining each moment in time: the transiting S.Node of the Moon. So beyond the location of the natal Mars by house and sign, and all the aspects that it is making to other planets, we need to now add the next part to that in order to understand as fully as possible the totality of the past that the Soul is accessing that is affecting it's ongoing evolutionary journey. This is done by locating the S.Node of Mars by it's own house, sign, and all the aspects to it. Within this to examine the natural planetary ruler of that S.Node of Mars, and all the aspects that is making to other planets. As you can see in such symbolism the degree and amount of archetypes and dynamics that correlate to the past that the Soul is accessing at any point in time is a tremendous amount. Yet that is life itself isn't it ?

In order to understand the evolutionary pull of the future, the transiting N.Node of the Moon by sign, house, and aspects to it, the location of the natal planetary ruler of that North Node of the Moon by house, sign, and all aspects to it, we now want to add the location of the N.Node of the natural planetary ruler of the sign of the transiting N.Node. Since the transiting N.Node of the Moon has been in Libra this planet is of course Venus. The location of this N.North Node of Venus, by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it will correlate with additional archetypes and dynamics that symbolize the totality of the evolutionary directions of the Soul that are consistent with it's underlying evolutionary intentions for the entire life.

What I would recommend that we do now is, again, to examine your own birth charts and locate and focus on all these symbols. To help organize all this information try to writing the steps down on a piece of paper. Start with the location of the transiting S.Node of the Moon in Aries. The house it has been in. Then the location of it's natural planetary ruler Mars, by house, sign, and all aspects to it. Then the S.Node of Mars by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it. Then the location of the natural planetary ruler of the S.Node of Mars by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it. Then actively and consciously reflect on the nature of your life for the duration that the the transiting S.Node of Aries has been occurring with all this in mind. Write down the internal and external events that are directly connected to all of this. See the linkage of it all. Feel it. Know it.

In the same way do this with the transiting N.Node of the Moon which as been in Libra. The house of the transiting Lunar N.Node of Libra is in correlates to the archetypes and dynamics that the Soul, and the ego it has created, are moving towards, into, in order to evolve itself. This evolution relative to the transiting S.Node of the Moon then means certain existing dynamics/ archetypes that have defined the Soul's evolutionary journey to date are coming to culmination in order for the ongoing evolution to proceed. It can also mean that certain archetypes/ dynamics from the past of the Soul's history being retained yet evolved in new ways through the pull of the N.Node transit of Lunar North Node. It can also mean the uncovering of archetypes/ dynamics in the Soul's egocentric past that have been repressed or buried that are now needing to be recovered so the Soul's egocentric reality in this life, at this time, can evolve without that evolution being hindered or blocked because of that which has been repressed: whatever the causes and reasons of that repression has been. The knowledge of what those causes and reasons have been can now be known to the Soul's egocentric reality at this time if it so desires.

So write down where the transiting N.Node of the Moon is in your birth chart. Write down the location of it's natural planetary ruler by house, sign, and aspects to it, and write down the location of the planetary ruler of that North Node by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it. Now reflect on where you life has been for the duration of the transiting N.Node of the Moon with all these symbols in mind. Reflect on what the evolutionary pull of your future has been in these symbols, and how the past, S.Node of the Moon, and your ongoing future, N.Node of the Moon, has been interacting in each moment of your life so as to KNOW through your own life how all of these symbols in totality actually manifest in real time.

If you can know these things through your own life then you will be able to help all others with theirs through the prism of Evolutionary Astrology.

Archetypes and dynamics that correlate with the South Node of the Moon in Aries, and the North Node in Libra

Remembering that Aries/ Mars/1st house correlate with the lower octave of Pluto we understand that the desires emanating from the Soul through Mars correlate with desires that equal new directions, new experiences, that the Soul needs in order to continue to evolve. Thus, with the S.Node in Aries this correlates to desires from the past that are being accessed at this time, desires that either were not acted upon at all, or desires that have been repressed for whatever reasons. By accessing these types of desires they then have the affect of moving the Soul forwards in it's evolution that then directly affect the existing and future dynamics of the relationships the Soul has with all kinds of other individuals including marriage and/or intimate partners, and the nature of one's existing family.

The actual house of the transiting S.Node in Aries correlates too what these desires are about which is fueled by the location of the natal Mars by house, sign, and aspects, the S.Node of Mars by sign, house, and aspects, and the location of the planetary ruler of this S.Node by it's own house, sign, and aspects to other planets.

The N.Node of Libra thus correlates to new and necessary dynamics in our existing relationships that are evolving, reconnecting to relationships from the Soul's past whether that past is in this or other lives where the nature of such relationships ended, was not completed, for some reason or reasons. Such relationships need to be reentered in some way in order for the Soul to continue on it's ongoing evolutionary journey. If they are not then the Soul is putting such relationships off to another time, whenever that is, but in so doing inhibiting it's evolution because of. This does not mean that the Soul can not evolve: it can. But the rate of the evolution will be slowed down if not completely thwarted.

With the N.Node in Libra the Soul is creating new ways of being in relationship with others in general, and close, proximate, or intimate others specifically. Some existing relationships will end for they are no longer needed from the point of view of the Soul's own evolutionary journey. When such relationships end others will begin with others, others who symbolize where the Soul is going, not where it has been. If the Soul is now accessing un-acted upon relationship desires with others from the past, and acting upon them now, then such relationships will either be entered for a certain duration in time before they naturally end and/or be sustained into the the future that takes both Souls into another life(s).

A key to understanding the archetypes of Aries and Libra is to remember or realize that they is an inherent psychological/ emotional paradox within them. Aries, of itself, desires unchecked individual freedom, independence, in order to act up any desire it wants to in order to discover and actualize itself on an ongoing basis. The focus is on itself as a result. Aries correlates with new cycles of evolutionary becoming that exist in all of us.

Libra correlates with the evolutionary need to be in relationships with others in general, and intimate others specifically. Being in relationships with others of course demands that we are aware of the needs of others, just as the others must be aware of the needs of oneself. This then requires that we learn to listen to others as other must listen to ourselves. This archetype of Libra thus correlates to the awareness of all Souls that others are as important and equal to ourselves. Equality. The Soul always chooses to be in relationship with others where the others correlate with what the Soul needs for it's ongoing evolutionary journey. We all attract what we need even if we don't consciously, egocentrically, know whether we need it or not.

By listening to the needs of others we learn how to give. And by giving we learn that we can be given to in return.

The actual houses, then, the the South and North Nodes of the Moon is transiting through will correlate to exactly how these archetypes and dynamics manifest in some way.

If you have any questions please ask them of me now.

God Bless, Rad

Hi Rad,

You said, "To help organize all this information try to writing the steps down on a piece of paper. Start with the location of the transiting S.Node of the Moon in Aries. The house it has been in. Then the location of it's natural planetary ruler Mars, by house, sign, and all aspects to it. Then the S.Node of Mars by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it. Then the location of the natural planetary ruler of the S.Node of Mars by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it. "

When you say "Then the location of it's natural planetary ruler Mars, by house, sign, and all aspects to it" you mean transiting Mars and not natal Mars, right?

Thanks
cat

Hi Cat,

No, I mean the natal Mars. We will get to the transiting Mars, the the transiting Venus, after this step.

God Bless, Rad

Thank you!  Glad I asked :-)

cat

Hello,

I've been reading along, working with my own chart as suggested, and would like to join this thread as well.

Best,
Emily

Hi Emily,

Ok, jump right in. We will be resuming more tomorrow: Tuesday 11/10 .......

God Bless, Rad

All,

Ok, the our next step in understanding the transiting Lunar Nodes, relative the natural planetary rulers of them, is to understand that the 'timing' of the various circumstances and events that correlate to the underlying archetypes/ dynamics that we have been discussing is determined by the houses, signs, and aspects to other planets that these planetary rulers of the Lunar Nodes are transiting at any moment in time.

The Lunar Nodes take about 18 months to move through a sign. As we have been discussing they correlate to the inner archetypes and dynamics within the Soul, the past that is defining any moment in time that interfaces with the future that is also attempting to define that moment in time. Thus, the dynamic tension of the past and the future in each moment in time. We have learned that the past and future dynamics are linked to the natural planetary rulers of the transiting Lunar Nodes, and that these natural planetary rulers are linked to the North and South Nodes of those planetary rulers.

All of these symbols, then, correlate with the past and future dynamics/ archetypes that the Soul is focusing upon at any moment in time that correlate to it's own going evolutionary journey: the egocentric realities that the Soul manifests. The transits of the natural planetary rulers of the Lunar Nodes simply correlate with the timing of the events and circumstances that the Soul creates that reflect the very nature of these dynamics and archetypes.

Reflect on your own lives on where the transits of these natural planetary rulers have been, and are right now, relative to the houses that the Lunar Nodes have been transiting in your own birth charts so that you can objectify and know this for yourselves.

Beyond each of us as individuals these Lunar Node transits also correlate to collective archetypes and events that reflect the evolution of the human organism, and the planet we live upon: all the living organisms on it.

Just one simple example to illustrate this. Through geodetic equivalents the transiting Nodes correlate with Europe and the western half of Africa. One of the correlations that the transiting Nodes correlate too, right now, is the tremendous amounts of people attempting to move, immigrate, from places in Africa to various countries in Europe: new directions defined by needs. This of course is creating tremendous pressures on the countries, and their populations, that these immigrating peoples are creating in so doing. As a result of these pressures whole groups of peoples in these countries are psychologically/ emotionally reacting to those pressures through new forms of nationalism: Pluto transiting in Capricorn relative to these Lunar Nodes. You can see in this simple example how the collective past is defining the nature of the moment relative to the evolutionary pressures of the future manifesting in each moment.

So reflect on your own charts. If you have any questions please ask them of me now.

God Bless, Rad

All,

So I would like to example the chart of Hillary Clinton to illustrate, simply, what we have been learning. Posted below are her natal chart, the transiting chart including the Lunar Nodes on the day she announced that she would be running for being the president of the USA, and the chart of the USA itself.

For the last 18 months the S.Node in Aries started off transiting from her 6th House to her 5th House. Her natal Mars is in Leo in her 9th House conjunct Saturn and Pluto. Her S.Node of Mars is in her 12th House in Scorpio. You can then see the various aspects these points are making to other planets in her natal chart.

The transiting N.Node in Libra moved from the 12th house into the 11th House which then refers to her natal Venus in Scorpio in the 12th House, and her N.Node of Venus at 15 degrees of Virgo in her 10th House. We can see all the linkages that these point make to other planets in her natal chart.

During this time frame we can see that her Soul began the process of finding new visions of herself so that she could actualize herself in new ways. This required needed down time from the reality she had been living as a US Senator, and then Secretary of State. While this was taking she was of course inwardly contemplating whether to run for the presidency of the USA. She of course made that decision to do so that was announced on April 12th of this year: 2015.

In the posted chart of this date below you can see that the transiting N.Node of the Moon was conjunct her 11th House Neptune, and the transiting S.Node of the Moon was making trines to her natal Mars, Pluto, and Saturn. There are of course other transits taking place that you can see that all reflect this, but it is the transiting Nodes, the ongoing evolution of the Soul and the egocentric identity it has created, that is the lens in the movie projector that allows for her, and any Soul, to "˜see' themself, their own self image, as it evolves. Additionally, the transiting Pluto at 15 degrees of Capricorn in her 2nd House is making an exact trine to her N.Node of Venus in her 10th House. Let's remember that the 2nd House, and the inner side of Venus, correlate to the Soul's inner relationship to itself, and that which creates a real sense of meaning for life itself.

In the context of the USA a women has never been president of that country. So, in essence, Clinton has made the decision to be the first president of that country. This reflects, of course, the archetype of Aries: that which is new, leadership, the sense of a new and special destiny. Her natal Moon in Pisces is in her 4th House which then refers to her natal Neptune in the 11th that, through synastry with the USA natal Chart places that Moon on it's 10th and 11th House cusp.

Her transiting Nodes now are shifting into her 4th and 10th Houses. From Aries/ Libra to Pisces/ Virgo. We can see from this symbolism the reality of her as a women running for the presidency of the USA with the transiting N.Node being the lead point. As this is occurring the transit of the Lunar Nodes will be shifting from it's natal 11th/ 5th Houses to the 10th and 4th Houses. The transiting S.Node will thus refer to it's natal Neptune in Virgo in the 5th, and natal Mercury which is retrograde in Cancer in the 3rd and opposed it's natal Pluto in Capricorn in the 9th. The USA'S natal Saturn is in Libra in it's 5th, and that Saturn is conjunct Clinton's natal Neptune.

You can see then through this progression how the USA is moving towards having it's first women as a president, and how Clinton's birth chart with the transiting Lunar Nodes perfectly correlate too and symbolize that she could in fact be that first women president. There are other things that have been taking place in her life that correlate to where the Lunar Nodes have been while in Aries/ Libra such as her private email server while being the Secretary of State, and of course the Benghazi investigations. Through geodetic equivalents Benghazi also correlates with Aries. When you examine her birth chart relative to these transits you can see these things.

The Lunar Nodes are now shifting in Pisces/ Virgo for all of us. We will be developing this now as we move on, and we can apply them to Clinton as well. For now I will say, from my point of view, Hillary Clinton is destined to be the next president of the USA. On election day next year in that country the transiting Uranus will be forming an exact trine to her natal Saturn which, again, is conjunct her natal Pluto, Soul, and her Mars. This among other transits of course, but it is this transit, to me, that will symbolize the "˜radical' change in that country in terms of a women becoming it's first president. On that day the transiting Mars and Moon will be conjunct the USA's natal Pluto, and the transiting Saturn will be exact to her natal Pluto and Mars.

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To enlarge the below charts simply click on jpg and it will fill up your screen.

All,

We will continue on at the beginning of next week: Monday. If you have any questions about what we have discussed and exampled to this point please ask them of me.

God Bless, Rad