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Hi Rad,

Do you know of the concept of twin flames and if this is actually true? I know you have spoken about Soul mates which are Souls that have been helping one another evolve (probably over eons of time) and wonder if this is the same.

Below is a text I copied from www.twinflame1111.com that explains what twin flames are.

The twin flame, or perfect love, is born out of the original white-fire ovoid.
This is an ovoid of light in which
you are created in the Central Sun, the highest concentration of pure Spirit in
the universe. God takes the ovoid and he makes... out of it two spheres of
light. And each sphere looks like the causal body in the upper portion of the
Chart of the Real Self. So imagine this chart twice.

Descending from these spheres into Matter, then, come forth the souls
that are the counterpart of the
Spirit spheres. They are called twin flames because they came out of the
original single ovoid. The Electronic Presence of each soul is the exact
duplicate of the other. And when they descend into form, one assumes the
positive or masculine and one assumes the negative or feminine polarity.
Now, each ovoid has a unique pattern. It is an electronic blueprint. Only you and
your twin flame have it. You have it in the Spirit. You have the divine image in
which you were made. It's the same image.
No one else in the whole cosmos can
claim this oneness with you because you were only born once, spiritually.
Elizabeth Clare Prophet.......

Thank you

All the best

Hi Skywalker,

Like I keep saying folks just need to invent various 'beliefs' to find their lives meaningful because of whatever the invented beliefs are.  Remember the big thing many years ago now called 'walk ins'. This crap is no different to me. Claire Prophet is one of the biggest frauds of all time by the way.

God Bless, Rad

Skywalker, JWG answers questions regarding Soul Mates, Twin Flames etc on the Sedona videos.  I'm pretty sure it's on the 2nd one.

JWG Sedona videos:


http://schoolofevolutionaryastrology.com/school/jwg-sedona-2005-q-a-part-1


http://schoolofevolutionaryastrology.com/school/jwg-sedona-2005-q-a-part-2

JWG also describes the twin soul relationship in his book: Pluto 11 (chapter 5- relationship styles)

All,

It should be very clear that what JWG taught regarding same souls is completely different that the 'twin flames' of Claire Prophet.

God Bless, Rad

Hi all,

Thanks for the feedback and links.

Rad,

To me it´s very clear that Same soul as JWG described in Pluto 2 is NOT what some refer to as Twin Flames.

Relative to real actual Soul mates, how can one know that a Soul is a Soul mate and not a Karma mate? And are Soul mates there for one another because of a personal choice made somewhere on their evolutionary path, probably even before reaching the human stage of evolution, or were they created as complementary Souls?

This also leads me to the question of how Souls are created, if it´s ok to ask, what is the process?

Thank you

All the best

Hi Skywalker,

"Relative to real actual Soul mates, how can one know that a Soul is a Soul mate and not a Karma mate? "

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JWG wrote about his in his second book. Essentially, Soul Mates are connected through time and space via an unconditional love that will keep them together no matter what. Karma Mates have a certain amount of time to be in relationship to one another versus eternal, and typically their relationship is rooted in a conditional kind of love.

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"And are Soul mates there for one another because of a personal choice made somewhere on their evolutionary path, probably even before reaching the human stage of evolution, or were they created as complementary Souls?"

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Personal choice.

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"This also leads me to the question of how Souls are created, if it´s ok to ask, what is the process?"

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The process began at the moment that the Source Of All Things set in motion the Manifest Creation itself which includes consciousness, intelligence within that consciousness, and the individualizing of consciousness. Once individualized this becomes the root and cause of what we call the Soul.

God Bless, Rad

Hi Rad,

Is it possible to have various Soul mates if there is unconditional love as the underlying basis of the relationship? And when you say "an unconditional love that will keep them together no matter what" do you mean life after life or together in the current life? I assume life after life as a Soul mate may possibly need to leave the relationship in order to enforce a lesson of self sufficiency in the other, for example.

I suppose a true Soul mate doesn´t necessarily come in the form of the opposite sex and/or life partner but may also manifest as a family member or someone else such as a friend, in order to help evolve as necessary. Is this the case?

In the Video of JWG in Sedona he speaks about Souls created at the same point in time, maybe that is what people refer to as Twin Flames and are looking to encounter, as they feel they will be more complete if they do find their "other half" which apparently doesn´t really exist and is a projection stemming from an inner feeling of emptiness. To me it seems Souls created at the same point in time are more akin to "the same batch" than complementary. Is all this correct?

Thank you very much Rad, there is a lot of confusion about this.

All the best

Hi Skywalker,

Is it possible to have various Soul mates if there is unconditional love as the underlying basis of the relationship? And when you say "an unconditional love that will keep them together no matter what" do you mean life after life or together in the current life? I assume life after life as a Soul mate may possibly need to leave the relationship in order to enforce a lesson of self sufficiency in the other, for example.

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Yes ............

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I suppose a true Soul mate doesn´t necessarily come in the form of the opposite sex and/or life partner but may also manifest as a family member or someone else such as a friend, in order to help evolve as necessary. Is this the case?

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Yes

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In the Video of JWG in Sedona he speaks about Souls created at the same point in time, maybe that is what people refer to as Twin Flames and are looking to encounter, as they feel they will be more complete if they do find their "other half" which apparently doesn´t really exist and is a projection stemming from an inner feeling of emptiness. To me it seems Souls created at the same point in time are more akin to "the same batch" than complementary. Is all this correct?

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Yes, they are exactly what JWG said they are.

God Bless, Rad

Hi Rad,

Is it possible to have more than one Twin Flame?

Thank you

All the best

Hi Skywalker,

Not to my knowledge.

God Bless, Rad

Hi Rad,

If Souls are timeless and eternal, how can they have a beginning to their existence?

Thank you

All the best

Hi Skywalker,

If God is supposed to be eternal how can it have a beginning and an end ?

God Bless, Rad

Hi Rad,

I don´t know. If God is eternal then I suppose eternal means no beginning and no ending. But relative to individualized Souls, if we are created by the Source, then that means there is a starting point and that contradicts the eternal-ness of the Soul. Or am I missing something?

Thank you