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The intention of this project is to dive headlong into a life "¦ to find out, on a personal, ongoing, aspect by aspect basis, exactly how the EA paradigm works in a real life.  We will begin with Jen's chart "¦ and follow her transits and progressions throughout an entire year.  We will also look at major transits such as the Uranus/Pluto square, New Moons, Full Moons, Eclipses, and other celestial events.  Jen will relate what specifically happens, as per her choice, and as time permits.

Participants will play "EA detective," ask specific questions and make pertinent observations.  The correlation of these personal happenings with the art of EA analysis should produce valuable if not spectacular results for those who join in.  Even for experienced EA practitioners, this can be a source of expanded, enhanced understanding.  Beginners should find it to be most helpful "¦ a wealth of information akin to a temple of wisdom.

The greater the participation, the greater the benefit for all.  Everyone is welcome to join in.





The comments, opinions, insights, and analyses posted by members of the School of Evolutionary Astrology be they students or practicing astrologers, are intended to serve those students who are engaged in learning Evolutionary Astrology. All content posted in the threads, "EA Personal In-depth Chart and Transit Analysis for One Year (Using the Charts of Real People)" is for Educational Purposes Only. The administrators and participants of the School of Evolutionary Astrology disclaim any liability in connection with the contents of these threads.


Please contact Linda or Cat by personal message if any volunteer wishes to remove any content from the project that is overly sensitive, too personal or harmful. Volunteers' real identities will remain confidential at all times before, during and after the project. Volunteers do not have to answer any questions that they do not wish to answer. Volunteers will be free to leave the project at any time.


Although we have many professional astrologers participating, the group as a whole will not be qualified to offer counseling to the volunteers as it is unsuitable in an on-line environment.





Click below:
(1)  Jen's Birth Chart
(2)  Jen's Questionnaire, Bio, Timeline of Important Life Events

Jen's Birth Chart


Chart attached below

So let's begin . . .  



Hello Jen,


You have shared that you're a beginner to astrology - with some experience in EA - and a deep level of understanding.

In preparation for our project, you have read the relevant chapters of JWG's book,

Pluto ~ The Evolutionary Journey of the Soul ~ Volume 1.

Could you please post a short assignment starting with your Evolutionary Stage, then the salient points of your basic EA signature.

Our discussion regarding determination of Evolutionary Stage began here:
http://schoolofevolutionaryastrology.com/forum/index.php?topic=1045.msg33826#msg33826


Thank you,

Linda

Hello All,

Just jumping in here to point out the apparent balance of:
~Sun in Virgo with Mercury in Leo mutual reception conjunction residing in the 7th,
Somewhat centered between
~Moon in Scorpio 9th in trine to Mars in Cancer 5th bracketing the other two.
Makes for a very practical, robust ego expression and an abundantly watery emotional expression.

Cool symmetry there.
Dawncerise

Hello all,

Here is a short description of my basic EA signature.


1st stage spiritual believed to be in the 2nd sub-stage transitioning into the 3rd sub-stage.

Pluto 8th House in Libra
The soul has been confronting personal limitations, fears, and dependencies in order to evolve past those dynamics. The soul has through psychoanalysis and confrontation of self and others been discovering the nature of motivations, fears and dependencies. In relationships the soul has desired to empower others but also withheld its own emotional reality to sustain its own security.

South Node 1st house in Pisces
The ego structure the soul has used in the past to actualize the desires emanating from Pluto have been of freedom and independence for any experiences that could lead to directly experiencing the many facets of creation. To completely know it for itself leading to deeper understanding of the self and the universe.

Pluto Polarity Point 2nd House in Aries
The essence of the soul's evolutionary journey in this lifetime is to develop total self-reliance and to become emotionality, physically intellectually and spiritually self-sufficient. When in a relationship to act independently without needing the validation from another and also to allow the partner the same independence and freedom to initiate their own direction.

North Node 7th House in Virgo
The soul's evolutionary intentions is to self-improve the nature of itself through relationships to help, serve and empower others in their own evolutionary development. The soul has also been learning to apply discernment in understanding other people's actions, allowing to see the reality for what it truly is and to make conscious decisions regarding life direction.

Jen

Hi Jen,

That is some stellium you have in the 7th house.  Looking at your North Node, it is conjunct Saturn, Venus and the Sun. In terms of your life, what do you think this means to you when you blend those energies together? By looking at your North Node and considering the influence and meaning of the Sun, Venus and Saturn, you will have a clearer idea of your path. Do you want to give that a shot? Have you thought about it before?

cat

Hi Cat,

That is a good question! I will try my best

I have reflected on how exactly this is operating in my life and I believe it has been a lot about needing to use my logical discernment to understand how another person is defining their actual reality, in contrast to my own. That it is a way of processing my own reality in a way that "supports" the souls need for understanding where another person is coming from (Pluto 8th). And I also believe that it helps myself stay centred in what is myself verses another. I could easily adapt blend in and "lose myself" in another's reality otherwise (Pluto 8th house, South node Pisces 1st house). I take on other people's feelings unknowingly and use the same logical deduction to figure out if they are my own.

I have always had a strong awareness of how another person might feel in any situation. I feel that this is due to the Scorpio energy. I sense that the stellium in Virgo in the 7th helps me be able to discern the difference between what are my emotions and another's. I have found myself having this experience quite often in my life. I have had to use my discernment and logical understanding of another to support my intuitive feeling. It has also worked the other way round, where I have given logical reasons to not listen to that intuition (and later learnt that I should have.)

I feel an urgency to show up and fulfil my duties and am acutely aware of my obligations to others. During my Saturn return I became aware of my self-defeating "life rules" that were about going it alone, in a sense that I would not burden anyone with my own needs but at the same time I felt that I had to always be there for others. So the awareness and responsibility for other people's needs that would lead to me being overwhelmed by life. I would also make myself indispensable to others instead of helping them help themselves. I have had to learn how to balance my own needs, duties, responsibilities with helping others with theirs. Allowing myself to be a part of the picture. Which has also led to me making conscious choices independently of others rather than waiting to see if there is time left for myself.

Does that sound like an accurate description of how these energies can manifest?

Jen

Hi Jen,

I just wrote a fairly lengthy reply and closed this page before I was done. All gone - poof! Lost forever 

What I was saying is that I find it interesting that Pluto's Polarity Point is in the 2nd House in Aries which indicates an intention and desire to develop self-reliance and self-sufficiency by going it alone so to speak. There is a need and desire for freedom and independence here. At the same time, the South Node is in Pisces in the 1st house indicating that you likely spent quite a bit of time alone in the past and required a lot of freedom and independence in the past as well. This time was spent developing Pisces type of qualities or engaging in Pisces types of activities. Neptune is in Sagittarius in the 10th house. This is a further clue to what you were doing in the past. What is jumping out at me is some kind of involvement with a religious institution. The 10th house being your sociological role and Sagittarius symbolizing religion. Of course Sagittarius has other meanings and correlations but this fits nicely with that South Node in Pisces. What do you think?  What do you get when you reflect on these symbols?

Then looking at the 7th house, this symbolizes what you need to do in order to actualize the Polarity Point. With the Sun conjunct the North Node, Venus, and Saturn in Virgo, it seems that you are being called on to serve others whom you form relationships in some way. This ties in with everything you said about the stellium in your previous post. Add Mercury (North Node Ruler) which is conjunct Jupiter, and both part of this stellium, to the picture, what story comes to your mind in terms of where you have been and where you are going?  It looks like an interesting story :-)

cat

Hi Jen, Cat, Dawn, and everyone,


Thanks for submitting your short Pluto signature, Jen.  And thanks, Dawn and Cat, for sharing your first impressions of Jen's chart.


The full 7th house, and in fact any other symbol (planet, aspect, pattern, etc.) in the chart, can be understood within the context of the EA paradigm:


Primary Evolutionary/Karmic Axis, "The Bottom Line"

The entire EA paradigm of natal Pluto, the location of the South Node of the Moon, the location of its own planetary ruler by house, sign, and aspects to other planets, Pluto's polarity point, the location of the North Node of the Moon by its own house and sign, and the location of its planetary ruler by its own house, sign, and aspects to it correlates to the primary evolutionary/karmic axis, the bottom line, for the Soul's ongoing evolution from life to life for any of us. It's like a foundation upon which a house is built. Relative to that foundation the REST of the entire birth chart is then properly understood relative to THAT CONTEXT. Everything else is referred to that context, that primary evolutionary/karmic axis. (Rad)


Members are invited to submit an assignment of the EA paradigm of Jen's chart.  Cat has already started asking questions.  Jen's answers will allow us to arrive at a comprehensive and accurate EA paradigm using actual facts.  She is available to answer your questions to make sure your assignment is on the right track.


Once we all thoroughly understand the bottom-line EA signature of Jen's chart, we will be able to move on to other things as outlined in the Guidelines and eventually correlate Jen's real life experiences or transits, to the chart within the context of the bottom-line EA signature.


Transits, Progressions and Solar Returns:

Reflect the totality of inner desires and actions, past and present, and the developmental timing of our life events. They symbolize what appear to be external circumstances, conditions and events that reflect an inner process that creates the necessity of the event, and that promote internal changes, adjustments, elimination or metamorphosis of inner dynamics. (Paraphrased from JWG's Pluto Volume 1)


Transiting Pluto

Just a quick note to say that Pluto is transiting Jen's 11th house and very soon will exactly oppose her Mars in Cancer in the 5th house.  


But first, let's get that EA paradigm happening!  



Cheers,

Linda

Hello, Linda, Cat, Jen ...et al....

Looks like your off to a great start! Thanks for your diligent and hard work in organizing this for the message board, I am sure everyone will have a great learning experience with this! Thanks you in advance Jen for being the first volunteer!

I notice that in the aspect grid for Jen's chart it does not show Neptune square the nodes? What orbs do you use when you calculate charts? For me, I calculate a 10 degree orb and then use my observation and listing to the client to see if in fact it is active. I do find in discerning the 'karmic axis' and how it is active in a persons life that 10 degree orbs to Pluto and the Nodes are often active...in fact I have even seen up to 12 degrees (when a planet squares the nodes) be evident in the persons past lives and karmic conditioning.

In Jens case here ... I have already seen things that she has said that indicate that Neptune sq the nodes may be a part of her karmic condition.

Hello Patricia!


Great that you've joined in.  

Thanks for pointing that out.  I have adjusted all the orbs on Solar Fire to the general orbs used in

EA, including the 10 deg orb for squares.  For some reason, Neptune square the Nodes is not

showing up in the Solar Fire chart or aspect grid.

However, students can look at the chart and count to figure out that Neptune is definitely squaring

the Nodes by 9 deg, therefore part of Jen's karmic condition.


Thanks!

Linda

Hey everyone!


Cat and I have agreed to start off in a less formal way as this is not a great time of year to be writing long assignments.

In a real reading, the astrologer usually starts off with a first impression of the chart such as Pluto's position, skipped steps, shape, stelliums, hemispheral emphasis, etc.

Please feel free to comment on Jen's chart.

What is your initial reaction to the chart?


Thanks!

Linda

Jen and everyone,


The first impression of your chart suggests . . .

Your chart is a BOWL pattern.  A bowl holds things.  This means you have something within your bowl to offer others. 

All planets, except Neptune, are in the Western Hemisphere (right) of the chart ~ in the bowl.  This means:   Focus on others.

FYI here are the meanings for all the hemispheres:

Eastern (left):  Focus on self.
Western (right):  Focus on others.
Northern (bottom):  Impact by the family.
Southern (top):  Overwhelmed by outer conditions.

The North Node seems to be the focal point of the chart, and it is also the Resolution Node for your Neptune skipped steps.  Therefore the Soul is desiring accelerated evolution in the 7th house area of life.  Planets conjunct the North Node means that these archetypes are not new; they have been embraced by the Soul just previous to the current life.  The Sun, however, is a current life symbol of conscious awareness of your life purpose.

North Node Virgo 7th:  to be of service to others.  Obviously this is happening right now since you are acting as a volunteer in an on-line environment sharing many details about yourself!   


Thanks!

Linda