Volunteer ~ "Kelly" ~ EA Personal In-depth Chart and Transit Analysis

[Linda]

Volunteer "Kelly"


EA PERSONAL IN-DEPTH CHART AND TRANSIT ANALYSIS

(USING THE CHARTS OF REAL PEOPLE)

For Educational Purposes Only

Welcome Kelly and Everyone to our second volunteer thread!

The intention of this project is to dive headlong into a life "¦ to find out, on a personal, ongoing, aspect by aspect basis, exactly how the EA paradigm works in a real life.  We will look at Kelly's chart "¦ and follow her transits and progressions.  We will also look at major transits such as the Uranus/Pluto square, New Moons, Full Moons, Eclipses, and other celestial events.  Kelly will relate what specifically happens, as per her choice, and as time permits.

Participants will play "EA detective," ask specific questions and make pertinent observations.  The correlation of these personal happenings with the art of EA analysis should produce valuable if not spectacular results for those who join in.  Even for experienced EA practitioners, this can be a source of expanded, enhanced understanding.  Beginners should find it to be most helpful.

The greater the participation, the greater the benefit for all.  

GUIDELINES:
http://schoolofevolutionaryastrology.com/forum/index.php?topic=1045.msg33756#msg33756

DISCLAIMER:

The comments, opinions, insights, and analyses posted by members of the School of Evolutionary Astrology be they students or practicing astrologers, are intended to serve those students who are engaged in learning Evolutionary Astrology. All content posted in the threads, "EA Personal In-depth Chart and Transit Analysis (Using the Charts of Real People)" is for Educational Purposes Only. The administrators and participants of the School of Evolutionary Astrology disclaim any liability in connection with the contents of these threads.

SENSITIVE MATERIAL:

Please contact Linda or Cat by personal message if any volunteer wishes to remove any content from the project that is overly sensitive, too personal or harmful. Volunteers' real identities will remain confidential at all times before, during and after the project. Volunteers do not have to answer any questions that they do not wish to answer. Volunteers will be free to leave the project at any time.

COUNSELING POLICY:

Although we have many professional astrologers participating, the group as a whole will not be qualified to offer counseling to the volunteers as it is unsuitable in an on-line environment.

[Linda]

Kelly's Chart

Chart attached below

[Linda]

Hello Kelly and everyone,


Here we go!


Let's begin with . . .


Primary evolutionary/karmic axis, "the bottom line"


The entire EA paradigm of natal Pluto, the location of the South Node of the Moon, the location of its own planetary ruler by house, sign, and aspects to other planets, Pluto's polarity point, the location of the North Node of the Moon by its own house and sign, and the location of its planetary ruler by its own house, sign, and aspects to it correlates to the primary evolutionary/karmic axis, the bottom line, for the Soul's ongoing evolution from life to life for any of us. It's like a foundation upon which a house is built. Relative to that foundation the REST of the entire birth chart is then properly understood relative to THAT CONTEXT. Everything else is referred to that context, that primary evolutionary/karmic axis. (Rad)


Kelly, if you could please read through the relevant chapters of Pluto - The Evolutionary Journey of the Soul - Vol. 1 by Jeffrey Wolf Green - and jot down the specific archetypes/dynamics that you have experienced throughout your life.  Which ones stand out more than others?  We'd like to learn exactly how your Pluto paradigm has manifested in this lifetime.


Everyone else is welcome to submit a short to medium-length Pluto paradigm of Kelly's chart.


Also, it's interesting to note our first impression of a chart.  What is that for you?


Thanks everyone!  

Linda

[Linda]

Set out below is the primary evolutionary/karmic axis which is the fundamental root of the chart.  The entire birth chart is properly understood relative to this foundation.  


Primary Evolutionary/Karmic Axis - for Kelly

-  Pluto Scorpio 9th  
-  South Node Pluto: Capricorn 12th
-  North Node Pluto: Cancer 6th
-  South Node Pluto Ruler:  Saturn Scorpio 10th
-  North Node Pluto Ruler:  Moon Taurus 4th
-  Pluto Polarity Point:  Taurus 3rd
-  Aspects from all of the above to other planets
-  Planetary Nodes can be examined for more information

   -  South Node Scorpio 9th
   -  North Node Taurus 3rd
   -  South Node Ruler:  Pluto Scorpio 9th
   -  North North Ruler:  Venus Libra 9th
   -  Aspects from all of the above to other planets
   -  Planetary Nodes can be examined for more information

         -  Then examine the rest of the chart


In EA analysis the house always comes first as the foundation for any given symbol, therefore Pluto in the 9th house is examined first.

[Kelly]

Hi Linda and everyone, thanks so much for this great oppotunity. Here is my life experiences of pluto in 9th house. I don't have the pluto book right now (all my book was left at my parents home when i move to US), so i'll quote from EA-glossary.


Pluto in 9th house

I have the feeling of a special destiny all my life, want to understand the truths that explain the world and universe through metaphysical, philosophical, or religious principles. I need freedom to go after the experiences i need to discover the knowledge that explains these larger forces. (Especially jupiter squares nodes, for me, i always feel one day in the future i am going to understand part of the truth, understand teaching of great teachers such as Jesus/Yogananda/Jung..., and live a real spiritual life when i am older.)

My major in university was German literature, even i wasn't good at school i'm resonate with german philosophy, and i always love english literature, never been interested in my own tradition/culture. I started to feel alienated from my own society since 2007, become a loner and extremely detatched from my daily life environment since 2010 as transit pluto in my 12th house (started to learn EA more concentrated than learning anything before, record my dream and read lots of literature/spiritual books), and i do feel rootless and consider myself world citizen.

I moved to United States on 10th Oct. 2014, i still feel alienated here, but the stress/fear/sense of being trapped is much less, through this "breaking free" experience, i exhausted the obsessed desire of living in western coutry, and i feel i would have courage to live in my own country some day again, more peacefully. Through last year of studying EA, meditation (i have problem to practice regularly), first time i really feel i am my soul, really know that i am part of the source, i have past lives/trauma without the need to prove it, sometimes i can feel my consciousness, my soul is like water waves in my body, there is no limitation, i am connected to everything.

I don't have the urge to convert others of my belief, i am more of avoiding confrontation.

I do have problem expressing myself through rational language, i always hope the communication would be like in dream, mind to mind, there is no limitation, no misunderstanding, i can just show myself without explaining it. In my country, people from different city speak different local accent which is almost a different language, so i never resonate with the official language of my own country, i am more resonate with english but not good at it either. After learning EA, i would help my friends with their chart, and attract many other people who also want to know their truth, it always surprises me when people tell me that i am good with words...... and i am really empowered/secured by knowing that i have something to offer to others, i am valuable.

Reading/Dreaming has been the most important thing in my life in 2014 (very intense year), i am so empowered by reading literature (seems i only interested in literature written before i was borned)/spiritual books that i resonate with, those stories gave me courage to break free from restriction, of judgement, and to take my power back, live my life as i want. Also i want to share, i finally break free (Knocking on wood) from my repeating nightmares/sleep paralysis recently! On 24th Oct. 2014, i had a dream at my home in US, i was walking back to my old apartment, then the devil waited there, i recognised the devil and trying to stop him, he jumped on me trying to hurt me, then i just drawing cross in the air, and yell at him: We are not afraid of you! At the same time i know we are soul/energy in dream, he can't hurt me as form of energy, and i am not afraid of death of body, my soul was telling me his only weapon is making me fear, that's what feed him, and after i said i'm not afraid of him, the devil disappeared immediately, first time i woke up peacefully from nightmare. This dream just so powerful first time i feel victory in this kind of dream.

Sorry for the delaying of post, i am really excited for this oppotunity. I also have a question about the SN/NN of pluto, i read a post about SN of pluto, but still confused, i understand people living on planet now all share SN of pluto in capricorn, NN of pluto in cancer, but we can have it in different houses, for example, does the house placement correlate to how we individually experiences patriarchy trauma in our soul's past lives?  Say my pluto is in 9th house, i have been developing my intuition, trying to find my own truth through all kinds of religions/spiritual teaching, SN of pluto in 12th house capricorn can correlates to the experiences of compeletely disillusionment, powerlessness, lost meaning of life in past life religion experiences?

[Linda]

Hello Kelly,

Thanks so much for sharing a summary of your Pluto paradigm which I enjoyed reading very much.

Later we will explore the various signatures in your chart such as:

-  Pluto conjunct the South Node
-  planets conjunct the South Node
-  planets conjunct the North Node
-  Jupiter skipped steps.

We're off to a great start!

Thank you!

Linda




Question for Rad from Kelly:

I also have a question about the SN/NN of Pluto. I read a post about SN of Pluto, but still confused, I understand people living on planet now all share SN of Pluto in Capricorn, NN of Pluto in Cancer, but we can have it in different houses, for example, does the house placement correlate to how we individually experiences patriarchy trauma in our soul's past lives?  Say my Pluto is in 9th house, I have been developing my intuition, trying to find my own truth through all kinds of religions/spiritual teaching, SN of Pluto in 12th house Capricorn can correlate to the experiences of complete disillusionment, powerlessness, lost meaning of life in past life religion experiences?

[Chuck]

Hi Kelly and Linda!

Kelly, Thank you for sharing your life with us.  Those who said you are good with words are correct.  

Like you, I have A 9th Pluto closely contacting lunar nodes.  So I understand the compulsion towards learning what is what...and why.  Who are we, where did we come from, What are we to believe...with so many opposing viewpoints out there?  Your experience with a dominating belief system like communism...then having been plunged into the free-wheeling 'American pie', seems right for a 9th Pluto.  The differences in belief systems must be dramatic, don't you think, in order to realize that all is connected thru opposites?  

You are young.  With your curiosity and soul's intention (Mars peeking into Pluto's 9th from the 8th), do you almost unconsciously sense the promise of Pluto's transformational 8th?  

Pluto's polarity point...yes, perfect!  You read and read.  You never tire of collecting information about your world.  Where would you most like to go (travel on truth's byways [Pluto in 9th, Jupiter in 1st])?  

In that search for truth, have you ever wondered, since your Pluto is conjunct SN, and since Jupiter naturally owns your Pluto's house...and is the missed step, whether you have already discovered the Truth in a former life...and now are applying it to your own circumstances (Jupiter in 1st).  Maybe as you said, finding a balance between ego and spirit (Mars in 8th in Libra)?  Uranus as astrology, is expanding your truth, then?  Do you feel an effect of SN of Neptune conjunct natal Jupiter?

Soryy about all the questions.  They are rhetorical in nature and don't require answers...only thought.

Best of luck, and have fun with the process.
chuck  

[Linda]

Hello Chuck and Kelly,


Saturn in Sagittarius transit


Great to hear from you Chuck, another 9th house Pluto!

Saturn is an important part of Kelly's evolutionary/karmic axis because it is in Scorpio along with Pluto (the Soul), Sun (current life purpose), Juno (committed relationships), South Node (past life habitual emotional patterns, past choices), and Mercury (intellectual system) - all in the 9th and 10th houses (which are themselves part of the Sag/Cap archetypes). Scorpio is also on the MC, a gateway to a new evolutionary cycle (new experiences).

Kelly has just had her 1st Saturn Return @ 28 deg Scorpio (the transition into adulthood), while you are well past your 2nd Saturn Return (I hope you don't mind me divulging that!).

Looking ahead, transiting Saturn in Sagittarius is currently moving through Kelly's 10th house and will soon enter her 11th house, overall for a 3 year transiting period.

Jupiter rules her 11th house (liberation from conditioning, groups, friendship). Transiting Saturn will conjunct her Uranus 11th which is in mutual reception with Jupiter Aquarius 1st.

Her Saturn is quintile Jupiter. The quintile is generally associated with Uranus in its expression of freedom, variety and experimentation, and indicates creative genius, insight and mental artistry.

Jupiter is septile Uranus. The septile is associated mainly with the planet Neptune, the capacity to receive inspiration, the search for ultimate meaning or wisdom.

Rather than predict anything, we will wait for Kelly to relay her experiences which we will then correlate to the transits in her chart.


Thank you both!

Linda

[Rad]

Hi Kelly,

Question for Rad from Kelly:

"I also have a question about the SN/NN of Pluto. I read a post about SN of Pluto, but still confused, I understand people living on planet now all share SN of Pluto in Capricorn, NN of Pluto in Cancer, but we can have it in different houses, for example, does the house placement correlate to how we individually experiences patriarchy trauma in our soul's past lives?  Say my Pluto is in 9th house, I have been developing my intuition, trying to find my own truth through all kinds of religions/spiritual teaching, SN of Pluto in 12th house Capricorn can correlate to the experiences of complete disillusionment, powerlessness, lost meaning of life in past life religion experiences?"

******

Yes, both the house placement of the S.Node of Pluto, and it's natal house placement of Pluto, with aspects to these from other planets, correlate to the trauma caused by the patriarchy. The natural planetary ruler of Capricorn, Saturn, is the ruler of the planetary ruler of the S.Node of Pluto. Thus, the natal placement of Saturn, and aspects to it, also correlate where such traumas can take place.

God Bless, Rad

[Kelly]

Hi Chuck, thanks for your questions.

Growing up within communism belief system, i haven't been interested in politics, when i started to talk to people online from all over the world, that's the first time i faced so many opposing viewpoints, and forced to think about what i learnt may be so wrong, i started to search information in english, search the truth, these experiences opened up my mind, at the same time i feel angery of being restrained, lied, and betrayed by my country, thus detached and alienated from mainstraim.

With your curiosity and soul's intention (Mars peeking into Pluto's 9th from the 8th), do you almost unconsciously sense the promise of Pluto's transformational 8th?

With mars in 8th house, i am always into dark side of the world, feel i need to dig into deep darkness, to understand why, to know the truth of the darkness, then i can find a way to heal my trauma, to defeat the dark side within myself, to find the light and always live my life with good intention/motivation. And yes, i unconsciously sense there is a future/light after 8th house's  "death"  experiences.

Pluto's polarity point...yes, perfect!  You read and read.  You never tire of collecting information about your world.  Where would you most like to go (travel on truth's byways [Pluto in 9th, Jupiter in 1st])? 

I think what i read reflect both of them: Pluto in 9th (very dark/deep/sad/traumatic stories, true experiences, philosophy), by knowing that's the part of human nature empowers me; Jupiter in 1st (stories about individualization/artist breaking free to search their meaning of life is always my favorite).

In that search for truth, have you ever wondered, since your Pluto is conjunct SN, and since Jupiter naturally owns your Pluto's house...and is the missed step, whether you have already discovered the Truth in a former life...and now are applying it to your own circumstances (Jupiter in 1st). 

That's interesting, i always feel the book i read, i have read it before in my past lives, i am learning all these things again and again to build up the power and knowledge within, applying it to my own circumstances!

[Linda]

Hi Kelly,


New Moon 0 deg Aquarius


We have the New Moon coming up in a few days time on 20th January 2015 @ 8:13 am EDT.  You have shown interest in providing us details of events around New Moons and Full Moons.

Would you be interested in reporting any events or new projects (desires) correlating to the New Moon Aquarius?  If so, please go ahead and share at any time before, during or after the New Moon.

Attached is your natal chart + transits for 20th January 2015.  At 8:13 am EDT the Moon will be exactly conjunct the Sun @ 0 deg Aquarius in your 1st house.  

Mercury stations Rx @ 17 deg Aquarius, 10:54 am EDT, on 21st January2015.

Kelly ~ Transits 20 January 2015 ~ New Moon Aquarius

Thank you,

Linda

[Kelly]

New Moon Transit

Hi Linda, during this New moon in Aquarius, actually on 19th Jan, my headache was so intense that i can only lay on bed or in bathtab for most of the day, from my shoulder, neck up to back of my head suffer from so much tension, i can't relax even when i sleep, i really feel like to restart my brain......

I have headache problem for 2 years, this new moon reminds me that i can't ignore it anymore. I got a new firm mattress today, and luckily, a girl i met today who is a  medical student told me that i can use hair dryer to blow back of neck which works like moxa-moxibustion, gonna try it!

Saturn Transit Experience

I'd like to share saturn transit experiences as well. I started to learn EA when transit Saturn conjunct my natal mars in libra 8th house. During the years saturn transit through my 9th house, learning EA feels like the best education i have ever had, i was so worried i'd give up easily after passion at the beginning, as 9th house pluto soul, i need a stable belief system to feel secure, by learning EA to understand my own chart, and my friends' charts, i finally just know it's true without doubt, prove or supported by others. When transit Saturn conjunct my MC, i had first chance to write astrology column for a local newspaper also write astrology article about celebrities for the local news website i worked for (i was suprised that i can to do it in my way, not so entertainment astrology), and tried to do astrology reading for people online. I had Saturn return in december 2014, moved to USA in October, i feel very insecure and stressed if i don't have any income at all, so i started to do astrology reading online again, there is still so much resistance, i think i am not good enough, sometimes i feel i can't really help poeple, afraid that i don't really understand the deep truth of their chart and what i am saying becomes dogma, cook book knowledge, then i lost the meaning of doing it.....there are so much self doubt, also i'm overwhelmed by communicating to so many people, their projected needs, and the responsibility of working for myself, i just want to retreat and stop sometimes, hope that i am not existed so i don't need to face the stress, i always fear to do what i love as a job, i am scared that i'll lose my passion, sometimes i just want to do repeat meaningless work and enjoy my studying as a hobby to avoid stress.

[Kelly]

Hi Kelly,

Question for Rad from Kelly:

"I also have a question about the SN/NN of Pluto. I read a post about SN of Pluto, but still confused, I understand people living on planet now all share SN of Pluto in Capricorn, NN of Pluto in Cancer, but we can have it in different houses, for example, does the house placement correlate to how we individually experiences patriarchy trauma in our soul's past lives?  Say my Pluto is in 9th house, I have been developing my intuition, trying to find my own truth through all kinds of religions/spiritual teaching, SN of Pluto in 12th house Capricorn can correlate to the experiences of complete disillusionment, powerlessness, lost meaning of life in past life religion experiences?"

******

Yes, both the house placement of the S.Node of Pluto, and it's natal house placement of Pluto, with aspects to these from other planets, correlate to the trauma caused by the patriarchy. The natural planetary ruler of Capricorn, Saturn, is the ruler of the planetary ruler of the S.Node of Pluto. Thus, the natal placement of Saturn, and aspects to it, also correlate where such traumas can take place.

God Bless, Rad

Thank you Rad!

[Linda]

New Moon Transit

Hi Linda, during this New moon in Aquarius, actually on 19th Jan, my headache was so intense that i can only lay on bed or in bathtab for most of the day, from my shoulder, neck up to back of my head suffer from so much tension, i can't relax even when i sleep, i really feel like to restart my brain......

Hi Kelly,


The New Moon Aquarius on 19th January 2015 took place in your 1st house.  The head and therefore headaches correlate to Saturn and Mars.  The New Moon created a temporary skipped step with your Lunar Nodes in Scorpio/Taurus in effect for a month.  The resolution node is South Node Scorpio 9th.

Perhaps the deeper reasons for your headaches will become apparent some time during the month.  The specific correlation for the Aquarius/1st archetype is a disruption to the nervous system affecting mental alertness, concentration and memory.  With your shocking headaches, the ability to think clearly and coherently may have been disrupted.

Saturn Transit Experience

I had Saturn return in December 2014, moved to USA in October, i feel very insecure and stressed if i don't have any income at all, so i started to do astrology reading online again. There is still so much resistance, i think i am not good enough, sometimes i feel i can't really help people, afraid that i don't really understand the deep truth of their chart and what i am saying becomes dogma, cook book knowledge, then i lost the meaning of doing it.....there are so much self doubt, also i'm overwhelmed by communicating to so many people, their projected needs, and the responsibility of working for myself, i just want to retreat and stop sometimes . . .

I'm sure many astrologers can relate to your feelings.  Some suggestions:

-  read some books or take some courses on counseling techniques

-  don't get into a savior complex when doing readings

-  the wisdom that you offer may or may not change the client's life


Here are some extracts from earlier discussions on the message board:


Different approaches to client readings

For the astrologer who is learning their work, who does not have a lot of water under the bridge, so to speak, it then comes down to how the astrologer presents them self to the person. And that means acknowledging to the person that they are in the process of learning, and thus they are not an "˜authority' wherein everything they see or say is the gospel truth. In the beginning it is necessary to use words like, "˜this signature suggests this or that: do you find or feel that is true?' This way then encourages a dialogue between the astrologer and the person where the dialogues themselves present an ongoing vehicle in which the astrologer is continuing to observe and correlate. Thus the astrologer is continuing to learn. This process will naturally deepen not only the astrologer's capacity through the knowledge gained, but their own intuition as well. JWG shared many times that in the beginning of his work that he worked for "˜free' for over five years. And wherever he lived in the world he would put out signs that said, in essence, "˜free readings.' And he did so on purpose for the reasons above. In this way there will always come a time in which the would-be astrologer would then feel "˜ready' to do their work on a more professional basis. And, in this way, they will have learned a great deal that will not only prepare them for the work, but also learn how NOT TO HARM PEOPLE. (Rad)

What I do is take quite a lot of time working with each chart I am to read based on the questions the Soul has asked. I ask them beforehand what their concerns are. Sometimes this is not easy because of the expectation of many Souls to be passive in the face of astrology, which many times is a projection of their desire not to be responsible for the situation. I always check through questions how the clients feel about what I tell them. And I check how they feel at the end of the session, and many times I also write to them or call them some time after the session to know how they have felt, and if they need any clarification or have any further questions. If you are there for the right reasons, then God is with you, helping you in your work. It is necessary to have faith. Another point I think helps me to avoid causing harm is that I normally want people to feel good about the reading. I want them to feel encouraged, and supported. So normally I will not tell them anything that will make them feel bad, unless it is necessary and they have asked the relevant question. In such case I will be even more careful with what I say. (Gonzalo)

Summarising all these descriptions of learnings given by everyone so far - for anyone just starting to give readings I'd recommend the rule of thumb that's emerged here: "Don't give any more than what the client asks for, and even then tread carefully." Make sure they are actually ready to hear what they have asked for, that they are presently capable of taking responsibility for their actions and thus this decision. But if you are sure they are, then it is their responsibility, and you can safely tell them whatever it is that they have asked. That said, it does take experience to really know all this in a reliable way, so be initially conservative in your assessments (for as long as it takes) until you have found your own way that you can rely upon. It's over time that this feeling for what your own way is/will be arises. Everyone comes to their way in their own timeframe, via their own pathway - astrology is Uranian after all. (Upasika)

As a client and a practitioner of therapy, bodywork, astrology, etc., helping professions are just that, we are here to assist others in their process, sometimes slowly, sometimes quickly. When I have had readings or sessions with healers, astrologers, etc. who want me to move faster than I am ready, or forcefully provide information, it just doesn't help. That said, I am open to honest and sometimes painful assessments that I need to hear to move on, or take responsibility for my Soul, my life. Clients usually call based on referral from my website or friend. In the initial conversation I give an overview of my work, including its comprehensive and evolutionary perspectives. This has certainly turned numerous prospective clients away, but it also provides a sorting that proves beneficial to both myself and prospective clients. My own evolutionary signature and body-mind is geared to help others go deep and to evolve with compassion. Those who are not ready for progressive and evolutionary themes, whether they be consensus or further along, usually go elsewhere within a short period of time when I stay true to my offerings and Soul work. It's called a practice for good reason, we are practicing and thus learning. Mistakes are inevitable, and some seem more painful than others. And I'm very grateful for the mature practitioners who have taught me and personally helped me know myself and my Soul better. They are the ones I have gleaned the most help and support from. (Wendy)


Thanks,

Linda

[Kelly]

Thanks for your insight Linda!

The New Moon created a temporary skipped step with your Lunar Nodes in Scorpio/Taurus in effect for a month.  The resolution node is South Node Scorpio 9th.

That's why i am flip flopping again, the pressure comes from the need to study deeply like you suggested to take courses, read books, it has been always good time to study when mercury go retrograde, easier for me to focus and attract all kinds of information i need, i wonder if it's because mercury is regrograde in my progression chart, i feel more like a mercury retrograde person? If you are there for the right reasons, then

If you are there for the right reasons, then God is with you, helping you in your work. It is necessary to have faith.

I really resonate with this!
Do you recommand any books on counseling techniques? Appreciated for all your help!