Hello Rad and everyone, i am trying to practise "1 2" while walking/taking a bus/lying on bed), since i am not ready for meditation, i thought i can start with the very basic: getting used to 1 2.....
I hope it's appropriate to ask a question about my experiense here, when i tried to focus on 1 2 before sleep, lying on bed(in this way i can stay relaxing/calming longer than sit straight), there has been a few times that i feel like "consciousness shaking inside" (that usually happens when i concentrate on 1 2, and forget that i'm doing it, similar to a half sleep state), it feels like electricity go through my body and brain, but my body is not really moving, i feel "waking up" from a far away place when i open my eyes, and it's very hard to shake it off, being calm after it.
When i read the 1 2 meditation thread (http://schoolofevolutionaryastrology.com/forum/index.php?topic=167.0) about 'earthquake' feeling, i became very curious of the 'shaking feeling' i had, i don't think my experiense is 3rd eye perception, but would you please help me understand what does this shaking feeling mean,or does it mean anything?
Also you said "So this kind of experience is dependent on desire and such desires typically do not occur to a Soul until it has entered the final stages of the 3rd Stage Individuated and beyond. "
I wonder if any soul attracted to 1 2 meditation before entering 3rd Stage Individuated, what's the purpose for those souls? Are they preparing for this transfering? Do they still get certain cosmos knowledge by meditation?
Thanks for your help!
Hi Wei,
Those shaking effects reflect a very preliminary shift in the center of gravity within your consciousness: from the ego to the Soul, and from the Soul to it's Source.
God Bless, Rad
Quote from: Rad on Mar 24, 2014, 07:24 AM
Hi Wei,
Those shaking effects reflect a very preliminary shift in the center of gravity within your consciousness: from the ego to the Soul, and from the Soul to it's Source.
God Bless, Rad
Thank you Rad, i'm not sure i understand it correctly, does this shift (from ego to the Soul, and from the Soul to it's Source) happen simultaneously?
Quote from: Wei on Mar 25, 2014, 01:36 AM
Quote from: Rad on Mar 24, 2014, 07:24 AM
Hi Wei,
Those shaking effects reflect a very preliminary shift in the center of gravity within your consciousness: from the ego to the Soul, and from the Soul to it's Source.
God Bless, Rad
Thank you Rad, i'm not sure i understand it correctly, does this shift (from ego to the Soul, and from the Soul to it's Source) happen simultaneously?
Hi Wei,
No, it is progressive over time wherein one leads to the other.
God Bless, Rad
Thanks Rad!
Hello Rad, i tried to meditate few days ago, and i had that wave feeling again, much more intense than before, i feel the heat all over my body, the light is expanding, and gets so strong, which makes me nervous, like i'm afraid of losing control, it's very hard to stay calm after that.....
Would you please give me some advice, what should i do after this step?
Thank you as always.
Wei
Quote from: Wei on Mar 29, 2014, 05:12 AM
Hello Rad, i tried to meditate few days ago, and i had that wave feeling again, much more intense than before, i feel the heat all over my body, the light is expanding, and gets so strong, which makes me nervous, like i'm afraid of losing control, it's very hard to stay calm after that.....
Would you please give me some advice, what should i do after this step?
Thank you as always.
Wei
Hi Wei,
There is nothing to fear. This is a typical reaction in most Soul's for the very reason you said: fear of loosing control. It is also best to be upright in a lotus type position versus being on your back. Being vertical is such a position creates the effect of being grounded much like an anchor is to a boat. Thus, this can alleviate that fear.
God Bless, Rad
Hi Rad, i tried sit on a chair with my back straight, also once sit cross-legged on bed, seems my body is so inflexible that my knees can't touch ground at all...A yoga teacher used to tell me that i won't be able to do the lotus position because of the shape of my hip bone....I wonder if it's true? Should i keep practicing?
Thank you so much!
Hi Wei,
You can try doing a half lotus. If that doesn't work then simply find a position in which your spine can be vertical from the pelvic area up.
God Bless, Rad
Thank you so much!
Hi Rad,
I have naturally suspended the breath and felt the earthquake in the past, unintentionally actually and saw the yin yang symbol one time and the star another time, when I saw the star my mind got excited as I remembered what you taught us about it and then I lost it. What I would like to ask is why the yin yang, does it correspond to the fact that we are going beyond duality at that point? Another time I was transported to another plane I also saw the yin yang symbol in front of my third eye and then it dissolved and I was in another plane of existence. Also is the earthquake feeling the OM?
Thank you
All the best
Quote from: Skywalker on May 16, 2014, 04:19 AM
Hi Rad,
I have naturally suspended the breath and felt the earthquake in the past, unintentionally actually and saw the yin yang symbol one time and the star another time, when I saw the star my mind got excited as I remembered what you taught us about it and then I lost it. What I would like to ask is why the yin yang, does it correspond to the fact that we are going beyond duality at that point? Another time I was transported to another plane I also saw the yin yang symbol in front of my third eye and then it dissolved and I was in another plane of existence. Also is the earthquake feeling the OM?
Thank you
All the best
Hi Skywalker,
The Ying Yang symbolizes the union of duality, yet also duality. When seen/ perceived in the meditation state this symbol is projected from the Soul upon the third eye, but is not the third eye. When the third eye itself is perceived, and merged with, is when super conscious states begin: the perception of the inner cosmos in varying ways. The earthquake sensation can correspond to the sound of OM, yes, at least in it's initial stages. Later on the total sound of OM is heard in super conscious states yet the body is not perceived to be in any earthquake type feeling because the body itself does not hold any breath: it is suspended.
There is a form of yoga called Laya Yoga, body union, in which all the natural sounds that emanate from each of the chakras, can be tuned into. Once tuned into the goal is then to unite the consciousness with each of those sounds. When this happens the perceptions of the inherent truths, natural laws, that correlate with the NATURE of each chakra occurs.
If you would like I can explain that here. Just let me know.
God Bless, Rad
Rad,
Thank you, you already described Laya Yoga elsewhere so no need to go into it again. I was really just curious about the Yin Yang as I have never seen anyone speak about it and I experienced it twice, once when I was approaching the breathless state and once when I was outright transported to another plane. What I am curious about is what does it actually mean when we see it and, why would one see the Yin Yang?
When I felt the OM it was the very beginning of a superconscious state, I took a very deep breath then exhaled and stopped breathing naturally, then experienced the OM and went thru various realizations until I ended up in that plane where anything could be experienced immediately and with no boundaries whatsoever as to what could be experienced, I believe the Causal plane.
Thank you
All the best
Hi Skywalker,
In your individual situation you most likely perceived or saw the ying/yang because you Soul has studied it in the past. Thus internalizing the symbol. Internalized it then can become projected in the way that you are describing. It is a very powerful and natural symbol that symbolizes, in the end, the Manifest and the Unmanifest. Creation, dissolution, Creation. Cause and Affect yet that which is beyond Cause and Affect.
God Bless, Rad
Rad,
You just put into words what I intuitively "knew" about the Yin Yang, that was exactly what I was looking for.
Thank you, for always sharing your knowledge and wisdom
all the best
Hi Rad,
As I practice the Hong Sau quite regularly and even while doing normal day to day tasks at times, I am beginning to feel as if though I am merging with the Source even though I haven´t merged with the third eye. What I feel is that I am attracted to this white light Source energy and at the same time resisting it, as a part of me fears being totally dissolved into the light. I fear I will not return if I totally merge with the light/Source. I also feel I am accelerating my own evolution, as this practice, if continued and sustained seems to accelerate the elimination of separating desires, leaving primarily the desire to return home to the Source. At times I have progressively penetrated the light which feels ecstatic and blissful and as if though one can be anywhere or anything.
What I would like to ask is: what exactly is happening? I am not penetrating the third eye or even seeing the white star but at the same time am feeling ever so close to the Source, I feel so close that I feel like I could die any moment actually, although I don´t really think I will die.
Thank you
All the best
Hi Skywalker,
Where is the while light emanating from ?
God Bless, Rad
Rad,
I really don´t know, it seems like all there is, is light.
Hi Skywalker,
I would have to be able to talk to you more extensively about what you are experiencing in order to actually know what is happening within your consciousness. Two thoughts just now are these. There is a natural area within the brain that when triggered produces the famous while light upon the physical death of the body, that light then leading to a natural channel that leads to the astral realm upon the death of the body. This of course reflects the testimony of many of their experiences of actually being clinically dead who them come back into their body and live on. In other words, this is hard wired into the brain: it actually exists. Brain surgeons have been able to trigger this experience in consciousness as well by way of stimulating this area with their instruments. The hormone that correlates to this is melatonin. The astrological correlation to this is Neptune as we have learned. That white when triggered floods the entirety of the Soul's consciousness. And within it is the natural 'current' that pulls the Soul forwards through that inner channel, like a tube, towards the astral realms.
Given what you have about your ongoing efforts in meditation this would of course connect to the increase in the secretion of the hormone melatonin within your brain wherein that melatonin is thus infusing itself into the entire physiology of your brain. If this is so this then could trigger that area within your brain that correlates with that white light, and the pull therein. The pull of course would then trigger the ego/Soul fears of being dissolved, and the attendant fears that come with that reaction to the light.
The other thought I would have would correlate to prior lifetime efforts, desires, to expand your consciousness that we linked to specific types of religions that taught that the Ultimate Source of All Things is Light without having any personal conceptions of that Ultimate Light as in the idea of what so many call God. Buddhism would be an example of this. If this is then your case it would be possible given your current life desires, efforts, to meditate in order to expand your consciousness, to go back to the Source, that these prior life memories are being triggered in such a way as to create the experience of Light that you are reporting now.
Ask more if you need too.
God Bless, Rad
Rad,
Thank you for your answers. I understand what you are saying about religions portraying the Source as light as most religions do so and the possibility of re-creating that experience within my own consciousness but in the few times I have experienced Source´s energy directly from within myself, in meditation or trancelike states, it has always been as pure white light that has an extremely fresh and blissful quality to it and is infinitely loving. It feels like the real deal and simply gets more and more intense the more I practice this meditation. Actually it feels like there is nothing I can do and will be pulled back to this energy no matter what I do, like a moth attracted to a light.
May I ask how you perceive/experience the Source?
Thank you
Hi Skywalker,
That nature of the Light that is triggered upon the physical death of the body and/ or experienced in meditation is in fact 'fresh' and 'infinitely loving'. Indeed that is the basis of the 'pull' towards it.
I would rather not share my own experiences of the Source.
God Bless, Rad
Rad,
I respect your reluctance to share your experiences with the Source although I wish you did. I trust there is good reason for you to make this choice.
May I ask then if the light isn´t the Source itself, what exactly is it?
Thank you
All the best
Hi Skywalker,
It is a reflection of the Source manifesting as the Light that you perceive. This Light is the very essence of the Manifest Creation wherein lies not only what has been Created, but also the ongoing nature of Creation Itself. Thus, this Light is intended to illuminate the nature of the Creation. As any given Soul evolves it is the degree of that evolution that allows to Soul to perceive/ know the degree of the Creation relative to it's totality even as that totality itself is in a state of ongoing Creation/ destruction/ evolution/ and Creation again.
God Bless, Rad
Hi Rad,
Is it correct that there is nothingness, then consciousness, which thru desire manifests as light and then condenses into physical matter we call reality?
Also is it possible to sustain oneself only from light and not need food to survive?
Thank you
All the best
Hi Skywalker,
The nature of the question you are asking of course correlates with the very nature of Creation itself. All's consciousness can KNOW, without beliefs, is that indeed there is a manifested Creation: it exists. Since it actually exists they must be a cause of that which does exist. Thus, the Origin of the Creation that does exist is what most humans call God/ess. Yet what is the origin of God/ess itself ? No human can know that answer: it is an intrinsic limit the consciousness in human form.
Within the limitation of consciousness in human form it is relatively possible to inwardly experience, KNOW, some degree of that Origin. But only a degree. This is what the simple and natural method as taught here allows. It is provable, does not require beliefs.
"Is it correct that there is nothingness, then consciousness, which thru desire manifests as light and then condenses into physical matter we call reality?"
Consciousness is the origin of what humans call 'nothingness'. The Manifest Creation that emanates from that Consciousness is a reflection of the DESIRE WITHIN THAT CONSCIOUSNESS to do so. The manifestation of the Manifest Creation expresses itself initially as LIGHT. The manifestation of LIGHT IS PROJECTED BY CONSCIOUSNESS that is the basis of Motion. Motion is the basis or cause of gravitation: gravity. Gravitation is the basis of LIGHT CONDENSING INTO MATTER. The 'reality' of this is then perceived, thus known, to any consciousness that is self aware: the objectification of itself.
Here are two documented cases of Souls who lived on Light alone.
Saint Giri Bala: http://beforeitsnews.com/entertainment/2014/03/saint-giri-bala-a-woman-who-lived-without-food-or-water-for-over-56-years-video-2457154.html
and
Therese Neumann: http://www.mysticsofthechurch.com/2009/12/therese-neumann-mystic-victim-soul.html
God Bless, Rad
Hi Rad,
I´d like to thank you for always sharing your knowledge and experience with us. It is really generous of you.
I had a deep shamanic experience in which I realized that food was not necessary, I realized that the need to eat was simply a belief that was deeply ingrained. And it seems to be true as you just confirmed. Why do we have a stomach, teeth and a digestive system if we don´t even need them? The only logical answer seems to be that it is all simply a step in the evolutionary process of returning to the Source.
Something else I keep on experiencing is a level of awareness in which I am consciously creating my reality, simply by desiring or thinking of something. I begin to see the results of whatever is going on in my mind starting to manifest or I realize how my thoughts and desires are creating certain outcomes. This seems to be the Causal plane but it also seems that the awareness of this plane is becoming more grounded in my everyday reality and instead of my desires manifesting at the slower rate they used to, they are actually speeding up as if thou in some time it will become instantly as when in the Causal.
I don´t know if you have seen what many say about the end of the Mayan calendar in 2012 and how that marked the beginning of a new cycle for mankind in which these higher planes of existence will be integrated into the physical realm. How we are all moving into "Fifth dimensional awareness". How those that are able to "ascend" as they say, will not need to physically die and that the whole planet and universe is going thru this ascension process.
Do you have any thoughts/insight into this?
Thank you
All the best
Hi Skywalker,
I would only comment on that by way of saying such things are just another example of 'beliefs' that humans need to create for themselves in order to have a sense of higher meaning and/ or purpose in their lives.
God Bless, Rad
Hi Rad,
I´d like to ask you about enlightenment as I have seen many different angles on this. It seems there are various stages or types of enlightenment and I suppose we are all enlightened to a degree but some Souls are able to stay in an enlightened state continously.
Could you share your view on what enlightenment is?
I heard a Sadhguru say that the point of enlightenment occurs at the moment of death for many. Is this the case?
I would also like to ask about final liberation and what happens when a Soul fully returns to Source.
Thank you
All the best
Hi Skywalker,
My answers to what you have asked are all reflected in the book called THE HOLY SCIENCE by Sri Yukestwar .........
God Bless, Rad
Hi Rad, during my recent meditation, i almost instantly feel my consiousness is spinning, then my upper body starts to spinning as well...sometimes i can't tell if my neck-head is still straight (feel like there is another ennergy body inside me which is not straight!) And i feel with this spinning, my consiousness is expanding,sometimes i can't feel boundary of my head after this last for a while, almost feel like i could be just disappear...
Would you give me some advice, is this natural or is it because i am ungrounded? And should i go with this spinning....or should i try to keep my body still/straight?
Thanks!
Wei
Hi Wei,
When you opens your eyes during this spinning is the external world still as it should be ? If so then this spinning may be occurring because of a progressive shift of gravity within the consciousness of your Soul: from ego to the Soul itself. Make sure your body / spine is vertical as you sit in meditation.
God Bless, Rad
Hi Rad,
Is Laya yoga another name for, or similar to/strand of, Kundalini yoga?
Quote from: Rad on Jan 09, 2016, 05:21 AM
Hi Wei,
When you opens your eyes during this spinning is the external world still as it should be ? If so then this spinning may be occurring because of a progressive shift of gravity within the consciousness of your Soul: from ego to the Soul itself. Make sure your body / spine is vertical as you sit in meditation.
God Bless, Rad
Hi Rad, i tried to open my eyes during meditation today, yes the external world is still, it's just feel like a inner vortex, sometimes i see green light vortex, sometimes just light beams(rays)spinning in circle(like a clock), and yes i sit crossed legs, my spine is vertical.
Hi Wei,
When this is happening exactly is occurring with your breathing ? normal, still, etc ........ God Bless, Rad
Hi Lenore,
Any 'natural' yoga will always lead to the increase/ production of kundalini energy. So in that way of looking at it all forms of natural yoga can be called kundalini yoga. The nature and intent of Laya Yoga is to unite the Soul/ consciousness with each of the chakra's. Each chakra has it's own nature and reality that correlates to specific Natural Laws that are intrinsic to the totality of the Manifest Creation. In uniting the Soul/ consciousness with each chakra, to become one with it, is then to receive/ know the nature of the understanding/ teachings that emanate from them. Each one has a sound(s) that correlate with them. Laya, in Sanskrit, means 'body'. Thus to become one with the 'body' of each chakra that resides in the physical body of the human form.
God Bless, Rad
Quote from: Rad on Jan 10, 2016, 08:05 AM
Hi Wei,
When this is happening exactly is occurring with your breathing ? normal, still, etc ........ God Bless, Rad
Yes, with me breathing normally, i haven't experienced breath suspended during meditation yet.
Hi Wei,
That being the case what you experiencing are the very beginnings of a expansion of your consciousness that will lead to the center of gravity shifting from the ego to the Soul. This is natural.
God Bless, Rad
Quote from: Rad on Jan 11, 2016, 05:18 AM
Hi Wei,
That being the case what you experiencing are the very beginnings of a expansion of your consciousness that will lead to the center of gravity shifting from the ego to the Soul. This is natural.
God Bless, Rad
Thank you Rad!
Hi Rad, what is the essential difference when a soul has completed the shift : center of gravity from ego to soul, vs a soul is still on this process (i would guess totally dissolving ego)? Does this shift correlates to shifting from individuated state to spiritual state? And in which evolutionary state this shift is completed?
Hi Wei,
"Hi Rad, what is the essential difference when a soul has completed the shift : center of gravity from ego to soul, vs a soul is still on this process (i would guess totally dissolving ego)? Does this shift correlates to shifting from individuated state to spiritual state? And in which evolutionary state this shift is completed?
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The difference lies in the inner perception of the Soul itself: it now sees/ perceives/ understands it's timelessness which includes it's own now conscious memories of previous lifetimes, and the lifetimes to come. It sees/ perceives/ understands to the extent possible in human form the very nature of the Manifests Creation. It is the difference of the wave and the ocean wherein the ocean knows it is the cause of all the waves, not the wave being the cause of the ocean. Thus consciousness that is within the ocean that perceives all the waves, the Soul and the ego's it creates through it's own evolutionary time, it's journey. And it can perceive and know such things for other Souls as well. It have evolved the capacity to commune with other sources of consciousness in this and other planes of existence within the Manifest Creation.
The transition to this evolution of the Soul's consciousness to this state leads to these progressive perceptions and understandings wherein the gravity shift is not yet complete: thus, in one moment, being in the Soul itself that can create the initial glimpses/ perceptions of all this, and the next being right back in the ego itself. There is a progressive transition that is necessary so the the Soul can progressively get used to the shift itself, and the expanded consciousness that needs to do this naturally so as to remain stable.
This evolutionary journey for all Souls begins in the last stages of the 3rd individuated state and finally culminates, the final shift, in the 3rd stage spiritual.
God Bless, Rad
Hi Rad,
Is the shift to the Soul consciousness totally complete at the beginning of spiritual three?
Thank you
All the best
Hi Skywalker,
Not at the very beginning ...
God Bless, Rad