If Pluto weakly conjuncts the North Node, as for instance in the chart of a friend with NN 24 degrees in Scorpio and Pluto 27 degrees in Scorpio, will there be no polarity point in this case? Or will there be a "weak" polarity point of some sort?
Or if the conjunction was even weaker, say 10 degrees apart, will there be a polarity point in this case? I suppose there is no exact point where the PPP just comes into being, but rather it is gradually weakened as the Pluto/NN conjunction becomes more precise?
Now, if I understand correctly, if NN is 24 degrees in Scorpio and Pluto 27 degrees in Scorpio, they are in a new phase to each other (having just passed the exact conjunction). There is a statement regarding this by JWG in the EA Glossary (p. 293) which I do not fully understand... does the phasal relationship affect the existence of or nature of the PPP?
I hope I am making myself clear, most grateful for your patience. :)
Best,
Kim
Hi Kim,
EA does not correlate with what is weaker or stronger. It deals with how long a particular evolutionary process has been underway. The longer a particular evolutionary process has been underway the more the Soul has been evolving through that process. As a result, the inner understanding/ orientation of that process has been occurring.
In your example question it means that Soul has been evolving, working with, that evolutionary intent/ focus for a length of time in such a way that it has already embarked, prior to the current life, a new cycle of evolutionary development which is being continued in the context of the current life: the new phase conjunction.
Phasal relationships between any two planets correlate to the evolutionary dynamics taking place relative to those two planets which must be understood in the context of the main evolutionary dynamic in the birth chart: the EA paradigm.
God Bless, Rad
QuoteEA does not correlate with what is weaker or stronger.
I'm not sure I understand, are you saying that it is simply not part of the paradigm to speak of "weak aspects" and "strong aspects" because it lends itself to the wrong kind of thinking? That whenever we look at a chart, we should not think in these terms, but only in terms of phasal relationships relative to the soul's evolutionary background as a whole?
QuoteIn your example question it means that Soul has been evolving, working with, that evolutionary intent/ focus for a length of time in such a way that it has already embarked, prior to the current life, a new cycle of evolutionary development which is being continued in the context of the current life: the new phase conjunction.
But it must have
recently embarked on this new cycle of evolutionary development, perhaps in the previous life or so, correct?
In any case, I still wonder when the PPP should be taken into account? Would it be accurate to say, then, that the PPP is always there naturally but that it becomes progressively less relevant as the NN closes in on Pluto? Or is there a "switch" at a certain orb when it suddenly loses its relevance (sounds dubious)?
Best,
Kim
Hi Kim,
EA does not correlate with what is weaker or stronger.
I'm not sure I understand, are you saying that it is simply not part of the paradigm to speak of "weak aspects" and "strong aspects" because it lends itself to the wrong kind of thinking? That whenever we look at a chart, we should not think in these terms,
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but only in terms of phasal relationships relative to the soul's evolutionary background as a whole?
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No at all. That is not what EA teaches. It is the entire EA paradigm that correlates with the evolutionary background of any Soul.
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In your example question it means that Soul has been evolving, working with, that evolutionary intent/ focus for a length of time in such a way that it has already embarked, prior to the current life, a new cycle of evolutionary development which is being continued in the context of the current life: the new phase conjunction.
But it must have recently embarked on this new cycle of evolutionary development, perhaps in the previous life or so, correct?
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If you read Pluto 1 relative to the subject of Pluto conjunct the N.Node you will read/ learn that this symbol means that the Soul has already been working / focused on this evolutionary development leading into the current life, and it meant to continue in that way: all the recent prior lives leading to the current life.
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In any case, I still wonder when the PPP should be taken into account? Would it be accurate to say, then, that the PPP is always there naturally but that it becomes progressively less relevant as the NN closes in on Pluto? Or is there a "switch" at a certain orb when it suddenly loses its relevance (sounds dubious)?
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The PPP relative to the natal Pluto is the core/ start point in understanding the EA paradigm ALL THE TIME. There is no 'switching' or loss of relevance, etc. You really need to read the Pluto books. If you had you would not be asking such questions.
God Bless, Rad
QuoteThe PPP relative to the natal Pluto is the core/ start point in understanding the EA paradigm ALL THE TIME. There is no 'switching' or loss of relevance, etc. You really need to read the Pluto books. If you had you would not be asking such questions.
I'm not interested in starting an argument here but I need to point out that I have read Pluto 1 and it says at the bottom of page 19, regarding Pluto conjuncting the North Node: "The principle of Pluto's polarity point does not apply in this condition." So there must be a point when it stops applying, gradually or instantly; this was simply my question.
All the best,
Kim
It says that because that PPP has already been activated PRIOR TO THE CURRENT LIFE, and is intended by the Soul, in the current life, to be the bottom line in the ongoing evolutionary journey of the Soul. Thus, there is not polarity point for natal Pluto in the birth chart as it would be in all other cases when Pluto in not conjunct the N.Node.
That is what it meant in the Pluto 1 book.
"So there must be a point when it stops applying, gradually or instantly; this was simply my question"
This correlates with orbs and aspects. In EA we use a 10 degree orb for conjunctions. So ten degrees before or after the exact conjunction correlates to the EVOLUTION of the Soul through this process when the N.Node conjuncts the PPP. In the beginning it is brand new, and, at the end, it is not. It is analogous to when a person buys a new pair of levis. At first they feel unfamiliar, stuff, uncomfortable. After a lengthy period of time, years, they feel like home. This is exactly the process of the evolution of the Soul relative to the beginning and ending of this N.Node conjunction to the PPP.
As a result, how the EA astrologer speaks to another who has this conjunction must reflect this natural evolutionary process. It is, again, not a matter of weaker or stronger at all. It is a natural evolutionary process in which the progressive realization and understanding of what the Soul's intent has and is by creating this for itself in the first place.
God Bless, Rad
Alright, I am besinning to understand it bettet now, thanks a lot for your patience.