Hi All,
Since the Lunar Nodes will be shifting signs very soon I am thinking of starting this thread as a way of discussing how to understand the transiting Lunar Nodes in general, and specifically the meaning of shifting into Pisces / Virgo from Aries/Libra. My thought is to talk about his from a collective/ world point of view as well as the individual Soul point of view.
For those who would like to do this together please let me know.
God Bless, Rad
Hi Rad,
I´m interested in better understanding the transiting Lunar Nodes.
Thank you for this initiative.
All the best
Hi Rad,
I am very interested in this.
Thanks
cat
HI Rad,
I would love to participate too.
Peace,
Kristin
Hi Rad,
Please count me in.
Thanks so much,
Linda
I would like to join in to learn more about the transiting nodes.
Hi,
I am always interested.
Maya
Hi Scharel, Maya, Kristin, Cat, Linda, and Skywalker
We will start in the next few days on this. If anyone else wishes to participate please let me know.
God Bless, Rad
Hi Skywalker, Kristin, Maya, Cat, Linda, and Scharel
In order to understand the transiting Lunar Nodes it is critical that we understand that archetypes of the Soul, and the egocentric structures it creates from life to life. In order to understand this at first it is critical that understand what the natal signature is relative to natal Pluto, it's polarity point, and the North and South Nodes of the Moon that the Soul has created for it's ongoing evolutionary journey. By understanding this natal imprint it is then possible to rightly understand the nature of the transiting Lunar Nodes. So before we focus on those transiting Lunar Nodes let's first review the core archetypes of what the Soul is, and the egocentric identities that it creates. So please read through the following. If you have any questions please ask them of me after reading this.
THE SOUL
The word Soul has been a word in almost every human language system that have ever been on Earth. So what is it? Can we open up the brain and find it? No, obviously we can not. But we can not open up the physical body and find emotion either for example. Yet we know we all have emotions. Can we open up the brain and find thought? No. Yet, we all know we at least have a thought or two in our heads. Can we open up the body and find sadness, or depression, or happiness, or love? No. Yet, we all know that these things exist within us. So obviously we are dealing with the nature of energy. The Soul is energy which is no different than the energy of consciousness itself. Again, we can't open the brain and find consciousness. Consciousness is one of the very greatest mysteries of all to scientists for they can not explain its origins or even how it came to be. Consciousness correlates astrologically to Neptune. This is exactly the starting point for what we call religion and philosophy: the human need to contemplate and consider, within the desire to know, where we come from and why. In turn this becomes the causative factor for "˜beliefs´ where beliefs are the result of the human pondering upon the origin of life itself. But is there a difference between beliefs and actual knowing? Is there a way to know the answer to the big cosmic questions versus the need to believe in an answer? The happy news is that there is. For example by the sheer fact that there is a manifested Creation that exists as fact there must also be TRUTHS THAT INHERENTLY EXIST because of the fact of the manifested Creation in the first place. By the fact of its existence most of us can easily reason that there has to be something that is the origin of the Creation. In generic language we could call that something the Origin Of All Things, or The Source, and in religious terminology it is called God or the Goddess.
Consciousness is certainly part of the manifested Creation. It exists. That which is the origin of consciousness, of itself, must also be conscious. Thus the totality of consciousness emanates from this Source. As an observable fact we all know that consciousness is in all living things: all life forms. And all of these life forms have the appearance of being separate from all other life forms yet are simultaneously connected to them: two plants next to each other appear separate yet are simultaneously connected to one another by the sheer fact of being plants. So, on the one hand there is in fact the individualizing aspect of consciousness, Yet, on the other, the universal aspect of consciousness which binds all the individual aspects of consciousness together.
Another way of illustrating this is the famous story of the wave and the ocean. Most of us would agree that it is the ocean that is the origin of the wave. Yet from the point of view the wave, if the individualizing aspect of consciousness were centered there, the wave appears and seems separate. In other words if the center of gravity for consciousness where within the wave then from that center of gravity the wave appears, and is experienced, as something separate from it´were the wave itself then the ocean simultaneously experiences it.
In the very same way when the Universal Consciousness which is the origin of all consciousness has created and manifested the totality of the manifested Creation. Which of course includes the human being and the consciousness within it. And within human consciousness there exists a natural individualizing aspect to it. This individualizing aspect to it occurs as a natural result of the human life form having distinct and individual forms relative to the its root: the human life form as a seed, so to speak, that produces many other branches that is no different than the ocean and the wave.
Thus, each human life form has its own individualizing consciousness that is called the Soul. The Soul, then, is an immutable consciousness, or energy, that is naturally part of the Universal Consciousness that has created it in the first place. Immutable here means that which can not be destroyed. Why? Because energy can never be destroyed, it can only change form. To evolve.
So how does the Soul evolve? What dynamics are inherent within it that are the cause of its own evolution? Within all human souls there exist two antithetical desires where DESIRE IS THE DETERMINANT OF EVOLUTION. One desire is to the RETURN to that which is the origin of us, of all of Creation, in the first place. And the other desire is to SEPARATE from that which is the Origin of All Things. This simple inner dynamic within the Soul is also the natural cause, or law, of free choice, or free will. that one can imagine. For example a desire for a new lover, or a new career post, the new possession, and so on. And we may have the ability to manifest that which we desire. And when we do there is in fact a sense of satisfaction of actualizing that which we have desired. But what soon replaces it ?
So how can we know, independent of belief systems, that there in fact exists an Ultimate Source? The human being knew long, long ago, before the manifestation of religions and complicated cosmologies, through inner contemplation, inner "˜looking´, that when the breath in the body, inhale and exhale, became very, very shallow, even stopped, that there would then appear within the interior of their consciousness a LIGHT. This occurred as a natural function of the breath becoming shallow or stopping. Naturally. Much later in human history this was to be called the famous "˜third eye. And it is this very Light that symbolized and connected the individual consciousness reflected in the Soul to the Universal Consciousness that is the Origin of All Things. The human being also learned long ago that by merging its own individual consciousness, or Soul, with that Light, that its consciousness would then expand in such a way that the individual consciousness itself then became Universal and was then able to consciously experience that Ultimate Source of All Things: the wave had returned to the ocean.
The point here, again, is that any human being can know and validate these natural laws through their own actual experience that does not require belief systems of any kind. The key to do this, again, is to progressively shallow and stop the breath all together. Any one can do this. If you doubt this, or wonder how, simply try the following natural method to do so. On your inhaling breath simply mentally affirm the number one. On your exhaling breath simply mentally affirm the number two. The secret here is to concentrate as hard as you can simply on the numbers one and two. It is this act of concentration intensified by desire manifesting as will that progressively your breath will in fact begin to shallow and even stop. Remember that consciousness is energy and can not be destroyed. It can only change form. Thus, as some may think, when the breath is stopped it does not mean that you have to die. Consciousness is NOT dependent on the human form. So when the breath is stopped the inner LIGHT which is intrinsic to consciousness will soon begin to appear. And as it does so simply move into it with by the conscious act of surrender. Surrendering to it will then allow for a merging of your own consciousness with that Universal Consciousness as symbolized in the Light. ANYONE CAN DO THIS AND THEN KNOW FOR THEMSELVES THIS NATURAL TRUTH.
It is this natural law of breath, when stopped or becoming very shallow, that allows for what all the great teachers of relatively recent centuries, when compared to how long the human being has actually been on the planet, has said; including Jesus: "When thy eye is single one's whole body is full of light." Symbolically speaking the two physical eyes that we have correlate to the two motions of breath: inhale and exhale. It is the inhaling and exhaling of the breath that keeps one's consciousness utterly involved and enmeshed in the duality, or polarity, of life itself. Likes and dislikes, happy and sad, love and hate etc, etc correlate too and demonstrate this natural law. The numbers one and two correlate to the natural law of finitude and duality: cause and effect. Yet between one and two there exists an interval, or zero. The interval or zero correlates to the Universal Consciousness or infinity. Thus when the breath stops or becomes very, very shallow the interval is then perceived. And what is perceived in the single eye, or what has been called the "˜third eye´ that naturally exists within the interior of consciousness, and can be accessed and merged with with our Soul. When this occurs the law of duality ceases to exist. The ultimate satisfaction is then realized. The Soul correlates astrologically to Pluto.
From the point of view of natural laws it is interesting to note, historically speaking, that advanced mathematics like algebra, trigonometry, quantum physics and so on, could not have been realized unless there was an "˜idea' or conception called zero. This occurred in the third century A.D. in India. It was the then Indian mathematicians that conceived of the number zero. And, of course, from the point of view of Indian cosmologies this occurred as a direct extension of their natural understanding of the origin of Creation: out of nothing, or zero, the manifested Creation occurred: the un-manifested/ manifested, or the causeless cause.
THE EGO
Coming into human form the Soul will then manifest what is known as the ego. The ego correlates astrologically to the Moon. The ego is also pure energy. We can not open the brain and find it. Unlike the energy of the Soul which is sustained from life to life until the final merging with the the Source occurs, the energy of the ego in any life is dissolved after each life is lived. The analogy of the wave and the ocean again serves to illustrate this point. The ocean can be equated with the Soul, and the wave can be equated with the ego. Of course the ocean, Soul, is manifesting the waves, ego, life after life. And just as the waves can rise and fall, any given life, the ocean is sustained.
The ego created by the Soul thus allows for the individualizing aspect of the Soul in each life. In each life the ego is created by the Soul in such a way as to serve as the vehicle through which the evolutionary intentions of the Soul in any life occurs. Each ego that the Soul creates is oriented to reality in such a way that the very nature of the orientation serves as the vehicle through which the life lessons occur and are understood by the Soul. In each life the ego allows for a self image of the Soul to occur relative to the individualizing aspect of the Soul. An analogy to a movie projector will suffice to illustrate this point. If I have a movie projector, and a reel of film on the back, a screen in front of the movie projector, and turn on the machine generating light from it, I will have no distinct imagery on the screen unless I also have a lens within the projector. Without the lens what manifests from the machine is simply diffuse light. Thus the lens serves as a vehicle through which the inherent images on the film can be focused and given distinct shape, form, and images. In the very same way the ego that the Soul generates in each life allows for a vehicle, or lens, through which the inherent images that exist within our Soul to take form. This natural law of consciousness is thus the cause that allows for individual self perception and the word "I" itself.
The Soul, Pluto, also correlates to the genetic code, RNA and DNA, chromosomes, and enzymes. In each life the Soul IS THE DETERMINANT FOR THE ENTIRE GENETIC CODE OF THE LIFE, HUMAN FORM, THAT IT IS BEING BORN INTO. Each life that the Soul chooses is a continuation of that which has come before where each new life taken correlates to the ongoing evolutionary lessons or intentions of any given Soul. Thus the body type which includes which race to be born into, the appearance of it, the culture to be born into, the parents of origin, the specific and individual nature of the emotions, feelings, psychology, desires, and so on correlate to the Soul's intentions reflected in the genetic code in total in each life. This is all then given individual form in each life via the egocentric structure, Moon, that the Soul creates in each life. Thus any person can then say things like "this is who I am", "this is what I need", "this is what I am feeling", "this is what I am trying to learn", and so on: the individualizing aspect of the ego that the Soul creates in each life.
When "˜death' occurs in any given life, as stated earlier stated earlier, the ego that the Soul has created for a life then dissolves back into its origin: the Soul. Since both are energy, and energy can not be destroyed, where does the Soul go upon the physical death of the body? In other words where is it on an energetic level? Most of us have heard the words the "˜astral plane' or heaven and hell. Obviously what these types of words refer too are other realities or planes of existence. There is in fact other energetic realities or planes of existence. Simply speaking, the astral plane is an energetic plane of existence that all Souls go too after the completion of physical lives on places like Earth. Energetically this plane of existence is much less materially dense than places like Earth. After physical death the Soul "˜goes to' the astral plane in order to review the life that has just been lived, and to prepare for yet another birth on places like Earth. Upon the completion of a life on Earth the ego dissolves back into the Soul in such a way that the center of gravity within the consciousness, within the astral plane, is the Soul itself. For most folks living lives in the material plane we call Earth the center of gravity of consciousness is the ego itself. This is why the vast majority of people living feel within themselves that they are separate from everything else: the center of gravity being the egocentric "˜I'. In the astral plane the center of gravity shifts to the Soul itself so that when death occurs in any given life the memory of the ego of that life is sustained.
This memory of the ego is necessary for the Soul for it is the memory of the ego that allows the Soul to not only review the life that has just been lived, but it also serve as the basis for the next life to be lived relative to the continuing evolution of the Soul itself: in each life we all pick up where we have left off before. Thus, this memory of the ego in each life serves as the causative factor of what type of egocentric structure the Soul needs to create in the next life. In essence it is the memory of the ego that the Soul draws upon, the "˜images´ contained therein, that serve as the basis of the next ego that the Soul needs to generate in each successive life that promote its ongoing evolution.
Astrologically speaking this is symbolized by Pluto, the Soul, and the South and North Nodes of the Moon. The South Node of the Moon correlates the prior egocentric memories of the Soul that determine the natal placement of the Moon in each life, the current ego; and the North Node of the Moon correlates to the evolving ego of the Soul: the nature and types of inner and outer experiences that the Soul needs desires, in order to facilitate its ongoing evolution. In turn this will then constitute the new egocentric memories images that the Soul will draw upon when a life has been lived and terminated at physical death.
Most of us are aware that the Moon also correlates to one's family of origin in any given life. It should be clear then that upon the death of the physical body the Soul "˜goes to' the astral plane and meets again important family members, and others close to the Soul. This is also why, for many Souls, that we continue to meet again those family members upon rebirth into yet another physical life on places like Earth. It is the memory of the ego now combined with the memory of family that is the determinant in this phenomenon. And this phenomenon is sustained until there is no longer any evolutionary or karmic need to sustain such relationships.
I'm very interested in this subject -- especially now since it will be a reverse transit for me! Thanks for doing it!!
Sue
Hi Rad,
Much as I would like to contribute to such a vital topic with assignments, I doubt I will have any time at all to do that due to my currently intense work load. But I do have a question which I hope is ok to ask...
In the average scenario, generally speaking, one parents will usually die a significant number of years before oneself. And therefore by the time one dies one's parents will have already been born into another life in a body somewhere (unless of course they are spiritually advanced and able to exist a long time between births not incarnated in a body).
So it appears that for many people they would be unlikely to ever meet their parents, uncles or aunts in the astral plane - would that be correct?
thank you,
Upasika
Hi Upasika,
No, generally speaking, that would not be correct. Generally, most Souls stay out physical bodies from life to life long enough for that meeting up to take place between parents/ offspring, etc. Generally.
God Bless, Rad
Hi Suzusue
Welcome to our message board. Feel free to participate in this thread if you feel so drawn, or any other thread.
God Bless, Rad
All,
We will now begin to discuss all the various dynamics and archetypes that correlate with the Moon. We will do this one step at a time so that all of us can understand and integrate what is being presented as we progressively move along. At any step when you have questions please ask them of me.
One of the core dynamics and archetypes that the Moon correlates too is one of psychological and emotional security. Security, for most, correlates to the past that is continually defining the moment. The past correlates to that which is familiar to the Soul, and that which is familiar equals security because of the self consistency that the past defines, or attempts to define, in each moment in time. The need for self consistency is the underpinning for most Souls to feel secure.
The transit of the S.Node of the Moon correlates to the past that is defining each moment of our evolutionary journey. That can be the entire past of this life where that past itself has been shaped and molded by the entire evolutionary past of the soul that goes back lifetimes. The past of other lifetimes manifests wherever the transiting S.Node of the Moon is by house and sign, and the aspects that it is making to other planets. That past is additionally linked with the natural planetary ruler of the sign that the transiting S.Node is in. The aspects to this planet also correlate to the dynamics that have defined that past in other lives, and that planet with it's aspects to other planets in conjunction with the house and sign of the transiting S.Node is bringing that entire past into the current moment of the life being lived by the Soul. And, again, that past has helped shape and define the entire egocentric reality of the Soul in the current life.
Because of the need for security where, again, security for most souls is defined by the need to be self consistent, that entire past can be used by the Soul to stay stuck in that past: to not make the choices necessary that allow the Soul to evolve.
Those new choices, in the interfacing of the past with the current moment, are symbolized by the transiting N.Node of the Moon which of course will be in direct opposition to the S.Node of the Moon. One of the underlying archetypes of the opposition aspect is to throw off, to oppose, anything that is preventing necessary growth. At the same time, the opposition can be used by the Soul to oppose and/or throw off the new or necessary dynamics manifesting through the N.Node of the Moon that correlate to its evolutionary future, and the choices necessary to allow that evolutionary future to manifest.
These new choices, as symbolized by the transiting N.Node, and the location of it's planetary ruler by its own house and sign with the various aspects to it, correlate to the Soul's evolution: to evolve beyond the past. Thus, there is a dynamic tension between the past and the future as experienced by the Soul is each moment relative to the transiting Lunar Nodes.
I would suggest that each of you reflect now on where the Lunar Nodes have just been: Aries/ Libra. Reflect on the houses they have been in in your own birth chart, and reflect on the planetary rulers of these Nodes in your birth chart, and the aspects they make to other planets. Reflect on your own personal lives while this has been in place as to what we are discussing here. Reflect in such a way as to be able to see and know for yourselves the truth of what we are discussing here.
If you have any questions please ask them of me now.
God Bless, Rad
Hi Rad,
Thanks for your previous answer.
Also just like to clarify the ruler situation ...
QuoteI would suggest that each of you reflect now on where the Lunar Nodes have just been: Aries/ Libra. Reflect on the houses they have been in in your own birth chart, and reflect on the planetary rulers of these Nodes in your birth chart, and the aspects they make to other planets.
When you talk about the natural planetary rulers of the lunar Nodes, I take it you're
not meaning the transiting planetary rulers. For instance the currently transiting lunar South Node in Aries has as it's ruler Mars.
However it's not the currently transiting Mars in Virgo that we need to look at. It's where Mars is in our
natal chart by house and sign, and the aspects our natal Mars is making to our other natal planets, that we need to look at - to see dynamics that have defined our past in other lives ... dynamics that possibly have been (and are still being) re-activated while the transiting South Node has been (and still is) in Aries. Correct?
And just to check ... so when the transiting lunar South Node changes soon into Pisces we would then stop looking at Mar's location and aspects in our natal charts and switch to looking at where Neptune is in our natal charts, and it's natal aspects?
blessings Upasika
Hi Rad. I too would like to participate in this thread. It's Wendy.
Hi Rad,
I have a question about the North Node of the Moon as it correlates to new choices. Wouldn´t the transiting North Node and Natal North Node correlate to the necessary choices to be made, and intended direction for evolution to occur, but the actual choice making correlates to Pluto as it correlates with desire, free will and thus choices?
Thank you
All the best
Hi Wendy,
Of course you are welcome to participate. Welcome back.
God Bless, Rad
Hi Skywalker,
"I have a question about the North Node of the Moon as it correlates to new choices. Wouldn´t the transiting North Node and Natal North Node correlate to the necessary choices to be made, and intended direction for evolution to occur, but the actual choice making correlates to Pluto as it correlates with desire, free will and thus choices?"
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Yes, and remember too it is the Soul that is the director of the evolutionary show in the first place: the birth chart chosen by the Soul, the timing of the evolutionary unfolding as symbolized in all the transits of everything, and so on.
God Bless, Rad
Hi Upasika,
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I would suggest that each of you reflect now on where the Lunar Nodes have just been: Aries/ Libra. Reflect on the houses they have been in in your own birth chart, and reflect on the planetary rulers of these Nodes in your birth chart, and the aspects they make to other planets.
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"When you talk about the natural planetary rulers of the lunar Nodes, I take it you're not meaning the transiting planetary rulers. For instance the currently transiting lunar South Node in Aries has as it's ruler Mars.
However it's not the currently transiting Mars in Virgo that we need to look at. It's where Mars is in our natal chart by house and sign, and the aspects our natal Mars is making to our other natal planets, that we need to look at - to see dynamics that have defined our past in other lives ... dynamics that possibly have been (and are still being) re-activated while the transiting South Node has been (and still is) in Aries. Correct?"
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Yes. But this can also include an examination and understanding of the S.Node of Mars as well. Additionally, the transit of Mars, the ruler of Aries of course, correlates to the timing of apparent events, internally and externally, that correlate with the underlying evolutionary dynamics that have been set in motions by way of the house that the transiting S.Node is in. We will be going into this more as we develop this thread: one step at a time.
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"And just to check ... so when the transiting lunar South Node changes soon into Pisces we would then stop looking at Mar's location and aspects in our natal charts and switch to looking at where Neptune is in our natal charts, and it's natal aspects?"
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Yes. And, again, the S.Node of Neptune, and the transiting Neptune as well. We will be going into this more in a bit.
God Bless, Rad
Hi Rad,
I do relate that it needs to be one step at a time, just wanted to get clarity before we got too far down the track regarding the transiting lunar node rulers - whether that referred to the natal planet or the transiting planet. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
blessings Upasika
Hi All,
Our next step in understanding this perpetual tension between the Soul's past and it's future as experienced in each moment in time that is symbolized by the transiting Lunar Nodes is to connect them to the South or North Nodes of the natural planetary rulers of the Lunar Nodes. With the S.Node of the Moon just ending it's transit in Aries the natural planetary ruler is of course Mars. The natural planetary ruler of the N.Node of the Moon is Venus since it is in Libra.
We want to do this in order to understand the totality and depth of the past that is shaping and defining each moment in time: the transiting S.Node of the Moon. So beyond the location of the natal Mars by house and sign, and all the aspects that it is making to other planets, we need to now add the next part to that in order to understand as fully as possible the totality of the past that the Soul is accessing that is affecting it's ongoing evolutionary journey. This is done by locating the S.Node of Mars by it's own house, sign, and all the aspects to it. Within this to examine the natural planetary ruler of that S.Node of Mars, and all the aspects that is making to other planets. As you can see in such symbolism the degree and amount of archetypes and dynamics that correlate to the past that the Soul is accessing at any point in time is a tremendous amount. Yet that is life itself isn't it ?
In order to understand the evolutionary pull of the future, the transiting N.Node of the Moon by sign, house, and aspects to it, the location of the natal planetary ruler of that North Node of the Moon by house, sign, and all aspects to it, we now want to add the location of the N.Node of the natural planetary ruler of the sign of the transiting N.Node. Since the transiting N.Node of the Moon has been in Libra this planet is of course Venus. The location of this N.North Node of Venus, by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it will correlate with additional archetypes and dynamics that symbolize the totality of the evolutionary directions of the Soul that are consistent with it's underlying evolutionary intentions for the entire life.
What I would recommend that we do now is, again, to examine your own birth charts and locate and focus on all these symbols. To help organize all this information try to writing the steps down on a piece of paper. Start with the location of the transiting S.Node of the Moon in Aries. The house it has been in. Then the location of it's natural planetary ruler Mars, by house, sign, and all aspects to it. Then the S.Node of Mars by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it. Then the location of the natural planetary ruler of the S.Node of Mars by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it. Then actively and consciously reflect on the nature of your life for the duration that the the transiting S.Node of Aries has been occurring with all this in mind. Write down the internal and external events that are directly connected to all of this. See the linkage of it all. Feel it. Know it.
In the same way do this with the transiting N.Node of the Moon which as been in Libra. The house of the transiting Lunar N.Node of Libra is in correlates to the archetypes and dynamics that the Soul, and the ego it has created, are moving towards, into, in order to evolve itself. This evolution relative to the transiting S.Node of the Moon then means certain existing dynamics/ archetypes that have defined the Soul's evolutionary journey to date are coming to culmination in order for the ongoing evolution to proceed. It can also mean that certain archetypes/ dynamics from the past of the Soul's history being retained yet evolved in new ways through the pull of the N.Node transit of Lunar North Node. It can also mean the uncovering of archetypes/ dynamics in the Soul's egocentric past that have been repressed or buried that are now needing to be recovered so the Soul's egocentric reality in this life, at this time, can evolve without that evolution being hindered or blocked because of that which has been repressed: whatever the causes and reasons of that repression has been. The knowledge of what those causes and reasons have been can now be known to the Soul's egocentric reality at this time if it so desires.
So write down where the transiting N.Node of the Moon is in your birth chart. Write down the location of it's natural planetary ruler by house, sign, and aspects to it, and write down the location of the planetary ruler of that North Node by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it. Now reflect on where you life has been for the duration of the transiting N.Node of the Moon with all these symbols in mind. Reflect on what the evolutionary pull of your future has been in these symbols, and how the past, S.Node of the Moon, and your ongoing future, N.Node of the Moon, has been interacting in each moment of your life so as to KNOW through your own life how all of these symbols in totality actually manifest in real time.
If you can know these things through your own life then you will be able to help all others with theirs through the prism of Evolutionary Astrology.
Archetypes and dynamics that correlate with the South Node of the Moon in Aries, and the North Node in Libra
Remembering that Aries/ Mars/1st house correlate with the lower octave of Pluto we understand that the desires emanating from the Soul through Mars correlate with desires that equal new directions, new experiences, that the Soul needs in order to continue to evolve. Thus, with the S.Node in Aries this correlates to desires from the past that are being accessed at this time, desires that either were not acted upon at all, or desires that have been repressed for whatever reasons. By accessing these types of desires they then have the affect of moving the Soul forwards in it's evolution that then directly affect the existing and future dynamics of the relationships the Soul has with all kinds of other individuals including marriage and/or intimate partners, and the nature of one's existing family.
The actual house of the transiting S.Node in Aries correlates too what these desires are about which is fueled by the location of the natal Mars by house, sign, and aspects, the S.Node of Mars by sign, house, and aspects, and the location of the planetary ruler of this S.Node by it's own house, sign, and aspects to other planets.
The N.Node of Libra thus correlates to new and necessary dynamics in our existing relationships that are evolving, reconnecting to relationships from the Soul's past whether that past is in this or other lives where the nature of such relationships ended, was not completed, for some reason or reasons. Such relationships need to be reentered in some way in order for the Soul to continue on it's ongoing evolutionary journey. If they are not then the Soul is putting such relationships off to another time, whenever that is, but in so doing inhibiting it's evolution because of. This does not mean that the Soul can not evolve: it can. But the rate of the evolution will be slowed down if not completely thwarted.
With the N.Node in Libra the Soul is creating new ways of being in relationship with others in general, and close, proximate, or intimate others specifically. Some existing relationships will end for they are no longer needed from the point of view of the Soul's own evolutionary journey. When such relationships end others will begin with others, others who symbolize where the Soul is going, not where it has been. If the Soul is now accessing un-acted upon relationship desires with others from the past, and acting upon them now, then such relationships will either be entered for a certain duration in time before they naturally end and/or be sustained into the the future that takes both Souls into another life(s).
A key to understanding the archetypes of Aries and Libra is to remember or realize that they is an inherent psychological/ emotional paradox within them. Aries, of itself, desires unchecked individual freedom, independence, in order to act up any desire it wants to in order to discover and actualize itself on an ongoing basis. The focus is on itself as a result. Aries correlates with new cycles of evolutionary becoming that exist in all of us.
Libra correlates with the evolutionary need to be in relationships with others in general, and intimate others specifically. Being in relationships with others of course demands that we are aware of the needs of others, just as the others must be aware of the needs of oneself. This then requires that we learn to listen to others as other must listen to ourselves. This archetype of Libra thus correlates to the awareness of all Souls that others are as important and equal to ourselves. Equality. The Soul always chooses to be in relationship with others where the others correlate with what the Soul needs for it's ongoing evolutionary journey. We all attract what we need even if we don't consciously, egocentrically, know whether we need it or not.
By listening to the needs of others we learn how to give. And by giving we learn that we can be given to in return.
The actual houses, then, the the South and North Nodes of the Moon is transiting through will correlate to exactly how these archetypes and dynamics manifest in some way.
If you have any questions please ask them of me now.
God Bless, Rad
Hi Rad,
You said, "To help organize all this information try to writing the steps down on a piece of paper. Start with the location of the transiting S.Node of the Moon in Aries. The house it has been in. Then the location of it's natural planetary ruler Mars, by house, sign, and all aspects to it. Then the S.Node of Mars by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it. Then the location of the natural planetary ruler of the S.Node of Mars by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it. "
When you say "Then the location of it's natural planetary ruler Mars, by house, sign, and all aspects to it" you mean transiting Mars and not natal Mars, right?
Thanks
cat
Hi Cat,
No, I mean the natal Mars. We will get to the transiting Mars, the the transiting Venus, after this step.
God Bless, Rad
Thank you! Glad I asked :-)
cat
Hello,
I've been reading along, working with my own chart as suggested, and would like to join this thread as well.
Best,
Emily
Hi Emily,
Ok, jump right in. We will be resuming more tomorrow: Tuesday 11/10 .......
God Bless, Rad
All,
Ok, the our next step in understanding the transiting Lunar Nodes, relative the natural planetary rulers of them, is to understand that the 'timing' of the various circumstances and events that correlate to the underlying archetypes/ dynamics that we have been discussing is determined by the houses, signs, and aspects to other planets that these planetary rulers of the Lunar Nodes are transiting at any moment in time.
The Lunar Nodes take about 18 months to move through a sign. As we have been discussing they correlate to the inner archetypes and dynamics within the Soul, the past that is defining any moment in time that interfaces with the future that is also attempting to define that moment in time. Thus, the dynamic tension of the past and the future in each moment in time. We have learned that the past and future dynamics are linked to the natural planetary rulers of the transiting Lunar Nodes, and that these natural planetary rulers are linked to the North and South Nodes of those planetary rulers.
All of these symbols, then, correlate with the past and future dynamics/ archetypes that the Soul is focusing upon at any moment in time that correlate to it's own going evolutionary journey: the egocentric realities that the Soul manifests. The transits of the natural planetary rulers of the Lunar Nodes simply correlate with the timing of the events and circumstances that the Soul creates that reflect the very nature of these dynamics and archetypes.
Reflect on your own lives on where the transits of these natural planetary rulers have been, and are right now, relative to the houses that the Lunar Nodes have been transiting in your own birth charts so that you can objectify and know this for yourselves.
Beyond each of us as individuals these Lunar Node transits also correlate to collective archetypes and events that reflect the evolution of the human organism, and the planet we live upon: all the living organisms on it.
Just one simple example to illustrate this. Through geodetic equivalents the transiting Nodes correlate with Europe and the western half of Africa. One of the correlations that the transiting Nodes correlate too, right now, is the tremendous amounts of people attempting to move, immigrate, from places in Africa to various countries in Europe: new directions defined by needs. This of course is creating tremendous pressures on the countries, and their populations, that these immigrating peoples are creating in so doing. As a result of these pressures whole groups of peoples in these countries are psychologically/ emotionally reacting to those pressures through new forms of nationalism: Pluto transiting in Capricorn relative to these Lunar Nodes. You can see in this simple example how the collective past is defining the nature of the moment relative to the evolutionary pressures of the future manifesting in each moment.
So reflect on your own charts. If you have any questions please ask them of me now.
God Bless, Rad
All,
So I would like to example the chart of Hillary Clinton to illustrate, simply, what we have been learning. Posted below are her natal chart, the transiting chart including the Lunar Nodes on the day she announced that she would be running for being the president of the USA, and the chart of the USA itself.
For the last 18 months the S.Node in Aries started off transiting from her 6th House to her 5th House. Her natal Mars is in Leo in her 9th House conjunct Saturn and Pluto. Her S.Node of Mars is in her 12th House in Scorpio. You can then see the various aspects these points are making to other planets in her natal chart.
The transiting N.Node in Libra moved from the 12th house into the 11th House which then refers to her natal Venus in Scorpio in the 12th House, and her N.Node of Venus at 15 degrees of Virgo in her 10th House. We can see all the linkages that these point make to other planets in her natal chart.
During this time frame we can see that her Soul began the process of finding new visions of herself so that she could actualize herself in new ways. This required needed down time from the reality she had been living as a US Senator, and then Secretary of State. While this was taking she was of course inwardly contemplating whether to run for the presidency of the USA. She of course made that decision to do so that was announced on April 12th of this year: 2015.
In the posted chart of this date below you can see that the transiting N.Node of the Moon was conjunct her 11th House Neptune, and the transiting S.Node of the Moon was making trines to her natal Mars, Pluto, and Saturn. There are of course other transits taking place that you can see that all reflect this, but it is the transiting Nodes, the ongoing evolution of the Soul and the egocentric identity it has created, that is the lens in the movie projector that allows for her, and any Soul, to "˜see' themself, their own self image, as it evolves. Additionally, the transiting Pluto at 15 degrees of Capricorn in her 2nd House is making an exact trine to her N.Node of Venus in her 10th House. Let's remember that the 2nd House, and the inner side of Venus, correlate to the Soul's inner relationship to itself, and that which creates a real sense of meaning for life itself.
In the context of the USA a women has never been president of that country. So, in essence, Clinton has made the decision to be the first president of that country. This reflects, of course, the archetype of Aries: that which is new, leadership, the sense of a new and special destiny. Her natal Moon in Pisces is in her 4th House which then refers to her natal Neptune in the 11th that, through synastry with the USA natal Chart places that Moon on it's 10th and 11th House cusp.
Her transiting Nodes now are shifting into her 4th and 10th Houses. From Aries/ Libra to Pisces/ Virgo. We can see from this symbolism the reality of her as a women running for the presidency of the USA with the transiting N.Node being the lead point. As this is occurring the transit of the Lunar Nodes will be shifting from it's natal 11th/ 5th Houses to the 10th and 4th Houses. The transiting S.Node will thus refer to it's natal Neptune in Virgo in the 5th, and natal Mercury which is retrograde in Cancer in the 3rd and opposed it's natal Pluto in Capricorn in the 9th. The USA'S natal Saturn is in Libra in it's 5th, and that Saturn is conjunct Clinton's natal Neptune.
You can see then through this progression how the USA is moving towards having it's first women as a president, and how Clinton's birth chart with the transiting Lunar Nodes perfectly correlate too and symbolize that she could in fact be that first women president. There are other things that have been taking place in her life that correlate to where the Lunar Nodes have been while in Aries/ Libra such as her private email server while being the Secretary of State, and of course the Benghazi investigations. Through geodetic equivalents Benghazi also correlates with Aries. When you examine her birth chart relative to these transits you can see these things.
The Lunar Nodes are now shifting in Pisces/ Virgo for all of us. We will be developing this now as we move on, and we can apply them to Clinton as well. For now I will say, from my point of view, Hillary Clinton is destined to be the next president of the USA. On election day next year in that country the transiting Uranus will be forming an exact trine to her natal Saturn which, again, is conjunct her natal Pluto, Soul, and her Mars. This among other transits of course, but it is this transit, to me, that will symbolize the "˜radical' change in that country in terms of a women becoming it's first president. On that day the transiting Mars and Moon will be conjunct the USA's natal Pluto, and the transiting Saturn will be exact to her natal Pluto and Mars.
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All,
We will continue on at the beginning of next week: Monday. If you have any questions about what we have discussed and exampled to this point please ask them of me.
God Bless, Rad
All,
What I want to post first, before we go into an examination of the transiting Lunar Nodes now moving into Pisces/ Virgo, is the last chapter in the recently published book on Neptune by JWG. This chapter focuses on the transit of Neptune that applies to the whole planet, all the countries on the planet, all groups, and all types of peoples. It synthesizes all the relevant archetypes that apply to Neptune, the 12th House, and the sign Pisces. So I think it is important first for all of you to read through this, understand it, then we can focus all of this as you get into the specific nature of the Lunar Nodes now being in Pisces/ Virgo. If you have any questions after reading this please ask them of me.
God Bless, Rad
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THE TRANSIT OF NEPTUNE
The bottom line in this transit is the ongoing evolutionary nature of the totality of all consciousness on Earth, and how this comes into the individual consciousness of the Soul. Each individual within the totality is affected in their own unique way relative to their total evolutionary conditions and, at the same time, experiencing what all other humans are experiencing in the world: the individual country where they live, and the specific groups of people in that country: whether it is Iraq, Rwanda, Ukraine, Samoa Island, etc. All of these individual consciousnesses all add up to and correlate with the total amount of humans which creates the collective consciousness so that each individual Soul's consciousness is then simultaneously evolving at every moment in time as a REACTION to the collective consciousness ! In turn each individual Soul consciousness that is evolving according to its own evolutionary condition then affects the collective at any moment in time that then correlates to the evolutionary nature of the human race itself.
All of the archetypes that we have talked about that correlate with Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House are occurring and interacting at every moment in time for each individual as well as the totality of all humans: the collective consciousness. The planetary rulers of the North and South Nodes of Neptune, Uranus and the Sun, correlate to additional archetypes that, in total, correlates to individual and collective dynamics that SERVE TO DEFINE THE NATURE OF EACH MOMENT THAT THE INDIVIDUAL AND THE COLLECTIVE IS CREATING AND EXPIERNCING.
As you at this very moment are reading these words you are experiencing the "˜world' around you as it is: all the events going on in the world, your country, your region, your city, your group or tribe of like-minded Souls, and your own individual Soul reality within all of this.
THIS IS YOUR LIVING EXPERIENCE OF NEPTUNE ! THESE IS NEPTUNE'S CONSCIOUSNESS. RIGHT NOW, AND IN EVERY OTHER MOMENT IN TIME. THIS IS THE NATURAL TRIAD OF CONSCIOUSNESS SYMBOLIZED BY THE MOON, YOUR EGO, PLUTO YOUR SOUL, AND NEPTUNE ITSELF: YOUR INDIVIDUALIED CONSCIOUSNESS RELATIVE TO THE COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS OF ALL HUMANS.
With the transit of Neptune in Pisces the core issues for each individual, and thus the collective, correlate to that which is true, and that which fiction is where fiction is a function of projected beliefs that are only "˜real' because they are "˜believed' in. Remember the projection that occurs relative to Neptune manifests from its South Node being in Aquarius. Aquarius correlates with projection just as the Source of All Things, Neptune, projected the manifest Creation in the first place. Thus, the individualized consciousness of each Soul as well as the collective of other Souls manifesting as groups of people of like mind, whole races of humans, countries, regions within countries, all project beliefs that define the nature of individual and collective consciousness relative to the specific nature of whatever the beliefs are.
As a result individuals and whole groups of humans everywhere can create a "˜reality' that is defined by these projected beliefs whether those beliefs are actually true or not. Each individual can be influenced by the collective group consciousness in the form of behavioral contagion because, in the end, the human species is a innately social in nature: like cows.
Relative to the four natural states of evolution where the consensus state is roughly seventy percent of all humans this then means that seventy percent of any population will desire to CONFORM with the consensus beliefs of whatever groups of people they find themselves in: countries, races, religions, and so on. As a result of this we can then have the majority of peoples in various groups around our Earth who "˜believe' in the projected "˜realities' that they manifest whether they are actually true or not. Thus, whole populations and groups of people, Souls, can be living in an almost total state of delusion yet believe those delusions to be real. Such delusions are then reinforced within these various groups because such groups will rebel, Uranus/Aquarius, against any other group whose realities defined by their own projected beliefs differ from their own.
The sad fact is that human beings can literally make themselves believe anything. It is only limited by the power of imagination. All's one has to do is open up any newspaper, visit the Internet, listen television and the radio, tune into some random conversation going around oneself, etc., to know just how unhinged and "˜crazy' human beings can make themselves relative to their beliefs. With Neptune transiting Pisces this craziness of what people can make themselves believe accelerates and infuses the collective consciousness as a result. Since all human Souls are part of the collective consciousness this can create a real feeling in Souls that remain grounded in that which is true versus not to feel like they themselves are going crazy. This can lead to a real sense of exasperation that affects the individual Soul consciousness to either try to do something about it and/or to desire to withdraw from the increasingly crazy world where white seems to be black, up seems to be down, and chaos seems to just around the corner.
Differing beliefs within the collective consciousness of various groups of humans creates a psychological insecurity that is perceived as threatening to their need to be consistent in their delusive beliefs. So we end up will all kinds of groups of people who then desire to self-segregate from other groups in order to feel secure where security is dependent on the need to be self-consistent. To be self-consistent each group self-segregates in such a way as to reinforce TOGETHER their delusive projected beliefs.
These binding archetypes in the consciousness of the Soul thus can cause groups of people conflicting with one another where the nature of the conflicts can be as small as they can be large and traumatic. Human history from the time of around 7,200 B.C.E, the South Node of Aquarius, forwards is testimony enough to this fact. The most extreme examples of this correlate with genocides of one group attempting to exterminate another group of peoples.
At the time of this writing the transit of Uranus, the planetary ruler of the South Node of Neptune, is in Aries. All over our Earth we have large and small conflicts, wars, and one group attempting to dominate into submission, Neptune in Pisces, other groups of people who differ in their own projected beliefs. The underlying issue, again, in the nature of beliefs that they define the nature of the consciousness whether that is an individual, or whole groups of people. The Sun rules the North Node Of Neptune in Leo. Thus, this gives "˜purpose' to that which is believed in, it gives a way to actualize that purpose where that purpose is defined by the nature of the beliefs themselves, and for the individual and the group to integrate, Sun, their whole lives around.
With Pluto transiting in Capricorn as of this writing we can now understand how all the different "˜strata' of each countries societies interacts within themselves as defined by the nature of the projected beliefs existing in all the different strata of whatever societies of peoples in whatever countries: Capricorn. Within this we see yet again the specter of nationalism in almost all lands and how nationalism is used as propaganda, beliefs, to justify the actions of the leaders of various countries who are creating conflicts with other countries, and their populations of people.
This then applies to all kinds of human issues such as immigration issues, economic issues, educations issues, one country trying to dominate or take over another country, and so on. The events that lead to World War Two started with Uranus in Aries, and Pluto in Cancer: the natural polarity to Capricorn. As these initial events in the early 1930's lead to the actual war as Uranus moved into Taurus, survival, and Pluto moved into Leo that lead to the need to recreate the world after this war. And because of this war it also lead to the invention, Uranus/Aquarius of the atom bomb: Pluto. The "˜belief' of the one who invented it, Oppenheimer, was that if he created such a weapon of massive destruction that this would end all wars. Oppenheimer convinced himself, made himself believe, that GOD gave him this power to invent this atom bomb. Of course his personal belief system came from India and focused on the God "Shiva": the power of destruction and creation.
When the USA dropped the bombs on Japan the transiting Pluto was exactly conjunct it's North Node. It not only changed the world, but propelled that country into becoming what it became. Whole groups of people, countries, suddenly, South Node of Neptune in Aquarius, became realigned because of this new power caused by the invention of this weapon. The affect within the collective consciousness of all humans was unalterably changed.
We all know this recent history. It included the evil of Hitler that lead to the genocide of the Jews, Gypsies, and all who considered as "˜undesirables'. And, again, it was the function of beliefs that was the fuel of collective and individual Soul consciousness that created these events.
In the 1820's the transit of Neptune, with Uranus, were both in Capricorn. Remember Uranus is the natural ruler of Neptune's South Node in Aquarius. As an example of beliefs being used to justify one group of people creating genocide on another group of people this correlates with the "˜Monroe Doctrine' and "˜Manifest Destiny' that was used by the government of America to commit genocide upon its native population: the American Indians. Here again see the specter of nationalism being used as the rationale as well as the artificial beliefs that the Caucasian people were far superior to brown skinned American Indians.
That transit also correlated to the Industrial Revolution which needed to occur for the humans race because of the increasing amount of the human population that required a radical alteration of how humans organized themselves in order to meet the needs and demands of the increasing population of humans. A classic example of "˜need being the mother of invention'. And what was then invented altered forever how the human race lived on this planet, and with one another.
And, as an example of how history can repeat itself when Neptune was in Pisces the last time in conjunction with Uranus in Aries this correlates with the CRIMIAN WAR.
So the underlying issue within this is whether that which is believed in actually true or not. Beliefs have many forms and types. From religious, cosmological, philosophical, political, economic, to human interactions of all kinds: family members, wives and husbands, lovers, friendships, employee and employers, to specific events where humans interact in some way.
When beliefs that are projected into any of these humans dynamics that are not true it will cause some kind of wounding to those whom are the recipient of such projections. Those who have been wounded by such projected beliefs can, in turn, can project back upon the source of their wounding with their own projected beliefs. This cycle can become un-ending. Within this is the fact that any Soul who projects beliefs of any kind that are not actually true is in reality wounding themselves. They wound themselves because they are believing in something that is not true. This type of wound is the wound of delayed evolution until the nature of the delusive belief(s) are pierced with the actual truth.
There always in an underlying truth to any given phenomena. That underlying truth is not a function of beliefs because the truth does not require beliefs BECAUSE IT IS TRUE. When that which is actually true interfaces with delusive projected beliefs that result leads to a disillusionment that itself leads to a potential variety of reactions depending on the underlying and existing context of the individual Soul's overall reality, specific types of groups of people, races of people, and whole countries.
The Neptune archetype of disillusionment is necessary to counteract any delusion or illusion so that an alignment with what is actually true can occur. When such a realignment takes place this then allows for an acceleration in the evolutionary intentions for each Soul, and it's consciousness. To the extent that any Soul continues to blind themselves to the actual truth, to hang on to their delusions and illusions at all costs, which means to sustain their delusive sense of security that is defined by the need to self-consistent, such a Soul is essentially marking time relative to their own ongoing evolution. The sense of psychological security and the need to be self-consistent correlates to Cancer which is part of the natural triad with Scorpio and Pisces.
The opportunity that the transit of Neptune provides for all Souls is to become aware of that which is delusional and illusionary in their lives versus what the actual truth is. To become aware of the truth of something, despite how bitter that may be, or how revelatory it can also be, is allow the evolution of the consciousness of the Soul to proceed. The realization of what is true about something does not always mean this occurs through the experience of disillusionment. The truth of something can be realized relative to something that the Soul has been wondering about, pondering about, or attempting to know in various activities like astronomy, some mystical need defined by a question, the motives of another, the reasons for this or that, and so on. The need to know the truth in this way for those types of reasons is also a key to accelerating the evolution of the Soul's consciousness.
If we remember that one of the core archetypes of Neptune is that which correlates with the need for meaning in our lives, including ultimate meaning, we can also see how it can correlate with meaninglessness. During the Neptune transit this can correlate to a progressive inner sense of meaninglessness relative to something that had held real meaning, including ultimate meaning, up until the transit impacted on that. With the South Node of Neptune in Aquarius in mind this starts with a progressive detachment that leads to dissolving of the prior meaning totality. As this occurs the consciousness of the Soul can feel very adrift, out to sea, no land in site, floundering within a sense of meaninglessness that is not immediately replaced by anything.
The temptation when this occurs is to replace, immediately, that which is dissolving into meaninglessness with something, anything, that will recreate a sense of meaning for which has been lost. Temptation, as an archetype, correlates with Pluto, Scorpio, and the 8th House which is, again, part of the natural trinity or triad with Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House, and Cancer, the Moon, and the 4th House. This then correlates with a time frame in which the Soul must be very careful in terms of what it is choosing to do, that which will recreate the sense of meaning that was lost. This is a natural time in which the Soul by way of the "˜inner whispers' from the Source of All Things is being asked to have an essential "˜faith' that what the next steps are to recreate that sense of lost meaning will reveal or present itself in its own time.
The problem and issue for most Souls is that the actual whispers from the Source Of All Things that correlate with those steps is initially ever so faint. The whispers initially are sporadic as well. This is exactly where the temptation of the Soul asserts itself where whatever the temptations are that offer some "˜quick fix' from the sense of meaningless, the sense of despair, of sorrow even, are all too often set into motion by the opposite of the Source Of All Things. That which we call Evil, or the Devil. The reason that this can occur is the very existence of what we call Evil, Lucifer, the Devil is dependent on Souls doing anything other than desiring to know their true Source, to replace that which is lost with something that directly leads the way back HOME where home is the Source Of All Things.
So the quick fix manifesting as this temptation or that can seem so attractive, so "˜right, that whatever it is the actual answer to the Soul's prayers or anguish. When any Soul makes choices to follow such quick fixes in the form of these types of temptations then, of course, the very thing that recreates the sense of meaning in order to replace the meaningless itself becomes a source of meaninglessness itself. Round and round the Soul will go until it realizes that it must be patient so that the original whispers that actually come from the Source Of All Things, whispers that actually reflect the individual consciousness of the Soul, it's existing context, correlate with its own next evolutionary steps in some way, become ever louder, more frequent, and create a real sense of Soul meaning.
When the consciousness of the individual Soul responds in this way to that which has been dissolved into meaninglessness by making choices to act upon the whispers from the Source Of All Things then this will lead to a true and real sense of meaning that will be sustained for some time, as well as allowing the Soul to actually evolve according to its own individual evolutionary journey.
Beyond the immediacy of whatever the circumstances that have led to this the opportunity within the Neptune transit is to reflect, to turn inwards, in such a way as to have a determined intent to reflect in hindsight upon the Souls entire life in order to become aware of any and all delusions, illusions, self-deceptions, being deceived by others, and deceiving others. Once identified the next step is then to make the effort to understand the inner dynamics within the consciousness of the Soul that have been responsible for this. The self-knowledge that is thus gained and APPLIED allows the Soul to accelerate upon its own evolutionary path and trajectory.
This is why it is essential as Evolutionary Astrologers to understand the individual context of any Soul's reality: where it has been, where it is now, and where it intends to go. The entire Evolutionary Paradigm that exists in all birth charts for all Souls is that which allows us to understand this. It is the exact individual context of the consciousness of the Soul. So when trying to understand the Neptune transit in our or our clients lives it is essential to understanding as deeply as possible the individual evolutionary journey for the Soul relative the Evolutionary Paradigm: the natal position of Pluto, it's polarity point, the South Node of the Moon by its own house and sign, the location of its planetary ruler by its own house and sign with aspects to all these points from other planets, the North Node of the Moon by its own house and sign, the location of its planetary ruler by its own house and sign, and all the aspects to these points from other planets.
Wherever the actual transit of Neptune in Pisces is, or whatever sign it can be in, relative to the house it is transiting must involve the understanding of the Evolutionary Paradigm. In addition, it is necessary to locate and understand the transits of the natural planetary rulers of Neptune's South and North Nodes: Uranus, and the Sun. All the archetypes that correlate to Neptune, as detailed in this book, as well as Uranus and the Sun are active at any moment in time as symbolized by the location of the houses and signs that they are transiting.
Neptune correlates to that which needs to be dissolved in order for Soul growth to occur, with the nature of our existing delusions/ illusions can exist that need to be confronted with actual reality so that evolution of the Soul can proceed by way of replacing them with the actual truth, of where emotional and instability of the consciousness of the Soul can occur and for what reasons, how to heal that emotional and instability if it is existing, of where we have been and are deceiving ourselves and for what reasons and/or how we have allowed ourselves to be deceived and for what reasons, of where our Souls are creating events and circumstances that do not take responsibility for which leads to the feeling of being victimized, of where we can be victimizing others by way of making others scapegoats for that we, in the end, we are responsible for, of where the impact of the collective consciousness on our individual lives can be the most extreme leading to a feeling being out of control in our own lives, of where the Soul can actually influence the existing state of the collective consciousness by way of their own actualization of their unique Soul consciousness and it's capacities, AND WHERE THE WHISPERS FROM THE SOURCE OF ALL THINGS manifest within each individualized Soul consciousness that allow for a quickening of the evolutionary pace if acted upon. Such whispers from eternity, God/ess, are the individualized messages that allow of an inner alignment of the individualized Soul consciousness WITH IT'S SOURCE.
In conjunction with Neptune the transiting Uranus, the planetary ruler of Neptune's South Node, correlates with the archetype of FREEDOM FROM THE KNOWN. Wherever this transit is by house and sign location, aspects that it is making to other planets, correlates simultaneously with the past of the Soul that is interfacing in each moment, Neptune, that then allows for a freedom of that known past by way of liberating from it. Liberating from it means to become inwardly aware, attuned, to messages, whispers, from the Source Of All Things wherein the nature of those messages is to not only leave the past behind, the parts of the past that are no longer necessary, for the ongoing evolutionary growth of the Soul itself. These whispers, messages, reflect and symbolize a revolutionizing of that past that metamorphose into the Soul's evolutionary future: to sustain the parts of the past, the inner dynamics that have caused it, that are still relevant to the Soul's evolving future with the messages that allow that future to manifest.
In combination with Neptune these messages, whispers, directly correlate with the individual consciousness of the Soul: where it has been, where it is now, and where is going as defined and symbolized the EVOLUTIONARY PARADIGM itself. As such, the nature of the whispers and messages are directly linked with that unique nature of any given Soul. Uranus correlates with an acceleration of the evolutionary intentions of any given Soul when the messages, whispers, from the Source Of All Things become "˜quickened' by way of Uranus. So the originally faint and relatively distant messages that correlate with Neptune become ever more conscious within the consciousness of the Soul by way of this quickening. The once distant billboard is now becoming ever closer.
Sometimes the nature of these messages and whispers demands a complete break from the past: a total letting go in order to start anew. Other times these messages and whispers simply demands that we add onto some existing reality that is in place, a reality that is still serving the evolutionary intentions of the Soul. In either case, a quickening of the evolutionary pace will take place. Sometimes these messages and whispers will seem to be very radical to the individualized consciousness of the Soul as compared to what the existing reality is. It is not uncommon for Soul's to resist these messages and whispers, to detach from them, to create the rationalization that, indeed, they are too radical that would require, if acted upon, to total upsetting of their existing reality. In other words, the Soul can make itself feel insecure and ungrounded, Neptune, if it actually considered taking action of these messages. A typical reaction of this type manifests as "˜well, this is crazy, this is delusional, or I will do this at some other time'. In so doing the Soul then creates a reality for itself that is essentially marking time in an evolutionary sense.
The natural quickening of the messages of Neptune to Uranus manifests wherein the messages and whispers become progressively repeating within the individualized consciousness of the Soul. This is intentional from the point of view of the Creator Of All Things. This is how God/ess attempts to get the ATTENTION OF THE SOUL ITSELF. These messages will now be a combination, a synthesis, of whatever the house and sign of the Neptune transit is taking place within with the house and sign of the Uranus transit. Within this the aspects that both planets are making to other natal planets, their own house and sign locations, will contribute to what the very nature is of these whispers and messages from eternity.
Again, these messages and whispers will become progressively repetitious: like a knocking on the door. Relative to the temptations of Evil. of Lucifer or the Devil, these repeating and progressively repetitious messages and whispers will be interfered with. This interference will manifest "˜sudden' ideas that seem to come from nowhere that create a real sense of Soul excitement in terms of how tempting they can be. Yet these types of Lucifer induced messages do not have the ongoing repetitious nature of the actual messages and whispers from God/ess. They come, and they go. If a given Soul chooses to act upon them they are inevitably met with some kind of traumatic event that pops the balloons of delusion being influenced by Lucifer itself. The intent, from Lucifer's point of view, is to keep the Soul ensnarled with delusions in such a way as to prevent the inner alignment of the Soul with it Maker by way of the whispers from eternity that the Maker is inducing in the individualized consciousness of the Soul.
There are of course times in the life of almost all Souls in which the very nature of the circumstances that it has created for itself that ignite and inner feeling of hopelessness, of reaching a dead end with no way out, of desperations that can be so intense that they induce an inner feeling of hysteria, an sense of not being able to change or alter the circumstances themselves. At these times many Souls inwardly or outwardly pray, or ask for some kind of divine or supernatural help from whatever the circumstances are that are causing this psychological state for the Soul. The Soul needs help, an intervention, to change that which can seem so hopeless and futile.
Many times, not always of course, if the Soul is sincere enough, and it not bound by some karmic determinant that requires that whatever the conditions are that are causing this inner psychology of the Soul, The Source Of All Things can in fact intervene to help change or create relief in some way from those conditions. When this happens it seems to the Soul that some kind of miracle has taken place, that the answers to the prayers have been realized.
The North Node of Neptune in Leo, again, is ruled by the Sun. The Sun correlates to how we integrate the very purposed of our lives, of how we go about actualizing and integrating those purposes. Thus, the natal Sun in combination with the transiting Sun both correlate to how the Soul is meant to integrate, actualize, and give purpose to the ongoing evolution of the Soul relative to all the archetypes of Neptune and Uranus that we have been discussing.
It should be clear from the point of view of Evolutionary Astrology that a total and complete understanding of the natal Evolutionary Paradigm serves as the foundation, the individualized consciousness of the Soul, needs to be understood. From that foundation the Evolutionary Astrologer then understands how to understand an integrate the evolving, transiting, nature of this paradigm manifesting as the transits of Pluto, the North and South Nodes of the Moon, and the transits of their natural planetary rulers but to now add to that foundation and context the understanding of the Neptune transit itself which includes the transits of the natural planetary rulers of its own North and South Nodes.
Hi All,
This is an incredibly fascinating thread and I would very much like to be involved if possible. I've been away from the message board for many years, but would love to come back and share some of my thoughts and personal experiences especially in regard to this current transit of Neptune. Would it be inappropriate to share our personal experiences and ask questions about this Neptune transit and the lunar nodes as they relate to our natal charts or is this strictly limited to anonymous clients and/or world events? Not looking for free readings, just a place to share some personal understandings and direct experiences related to these topics. Thanks for the consideration. :-)
Hi Greg,
Right now is not the time to share personal experiences and the Neptune or Lunar Nodes transits. If you have questions that are based and rooted in what is being presented then of course ask.
God Bless, Rad
All,
Ok, the Lunar Nodes have shifted from Aries/Libra to Virgo/Pisces. They will be in these signs for the next 18 months. So locate in your own birth charts the house of the transiting S.Node of Pisces is in, the location of it's natural planetary ruler Neptune by it's own house, sign, and aspects that it is making to other planets, the location of the S.Node of the planet Neptune by it's own house, sign, and all the aspects to it. All of these archetypes and the dynamics they generate will correlate to the Soul's evolutionary past that it is now accessing in the present moment, how all of these archetypes/ dynamics are shaping and defining the nature of the each existing moment in your lives, and how those past archetypes/ dynamics are interfacing with the Soul's evolutionary future.
That future is symbolized by the transiting N.Node of the Moon in Virgo which, of course, is in the opposite house/ sign of the transiting Lunar S.Node, the location of your natal Mercury by it's own house, sign, and all the aspects to it, and the N.Node of Mercury by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it.
So, right now, either make mental notes about this transition from the past to the future relative to these symbols and/ or write them down like an outline that will help you organize all the information that all of these symbols, in total, correlates too.
Tomorrow, Thursday, I will detail the various archetypes/ dynamics the transiting Lunar S.Node of Pisces and the N.Node of Virgo will correlate too.
God Bless, Rad
All,
I will be back here soon to continue on in our thread. Some 'stuff' has come up that I need to deal with just now. I do want to post the following article about the 'tipping point' of bacteria mutating, Pluto/Scorpio/8th House, to the point that they have evolved/ mutated to becoming, right now at this point in time, drug resistant to any and all existing anti-bacterial drugs. And this announcement has just been made that correlates exactly the the Lunar Nodal axis shifting into Pisces/Virgo. The archetypes of Pisces and Virgo of course correlate to the very nature of the immune system in all forms of organic life, including humans. The immune system is specific to Pisces, Neptune, and the 12th House. When the immune system acts to defend the organism against some invading force such as parasites, bacteria, viruses, and fungus it creates a crisis, Virgo, that requires the organism to do something about: to make the adjustments necessary in order to heal, Pisces, the crisis, Virgo.
Thus, humans have discovered many, many natural medicines in Nature to deal with illnesses caused by these things and, in recent times, have designed allopathic medicines that essentially use these natural compounds and make them more potent in order to be ever more effective in dealing with illnesses born of bacteria, viruses, etc. Penicillin is a perfect example. Drugs whether designed by humans, or the natural medicines, drugs, that occur in Nature correlate to Pisces, the 12th House, and Neptune.
Pluto, Scorpio, and the 8th House correlate to the defense systems that protect the Soul and the body it is in from whatever it needs to defend against. One of those defense systems is the immune system. All organisms mutate and evolve as a form of the core instinct, in all forms of life, to SURVIVE. Thus, bacteria's, viruses, parasites, and fungus's also mutate and evolve. The reality, Pluto in Capricorn, is that they mutate and evolve much more quickly than the human organism. This naturally accelerates, by the way, as the climate becomes ever warmer: global warming.
So we have now reached a point of time, right now, in which bacteria's have mutated to the point that there are no longer any existing allopathic drugs, anti-bacterial, that will defend the human organism, or other forms of life such an animals, against them. A true tipping point has been reached that will correlate to a major cataclysmic crisis, Virgo, for the human organism and it's immune system, Pisces.
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"˜Invincible' bacteria threatens global epidemic: study
Agence France-Presse
19 Nov 2015 at 06:02 ET
Medicine's final line of defence against deadly disease has been breached, raising the spectre of a global epidemic, scientists say, after finding bacteria resistant to last-resort antibiotics.
The discovery could herald a virtual return to the Dark Ages, with doctors unable to control common germs like E. Coli, rolling back centuries of medical progress.
"These are extremely worryingly results," said Liu Jian-Hua, a professor at China's Southern Agricultural University and co-author of a new study.
Liu and his colleagues found a gene, called MCR-1, that allows bacteria to become resistant to a class of antibiotics known as polymyxins, which are used to fight superbugs.
The gene, which was detected in common but deadly bacteria such as E. Coli and K. Pneumoniae - the cause of pneumonia and blood diseases - effectively makes bacteria invincible.
Most worryingly of all, the gene is easily spread from one strain to another, said the study, which was published in The Lancet Infectious Diseases journal, prompting warnings they could have "epidemic potential".
Until now, rare cases of resistance occurred only through mutation in individual organisms, severely limiting transmission.
The World Health Organization (WHO) has already warned antimicrobial resistance may result in "a return to the pre-antibiotic era," where even small infections - or cuts - could prove fatal.
- Animal to human -
The superbugs were detected during routine testing of pigs and chickens in southern China, where animals were found to be carrying bacteria resistant to colistin, a drug widely used in livestock farming.
A team of researchers then examined E. Coli and K. Pneumoniae samples collected from pork and chicken sold in dozens of markets across four provinces.
They also analysed lab results from patients at two hospitals in Guangdong and Zhejiang provinces.
More than 20 percent of bacteria in the animal samples, and 15 percent of the raw meat samples, had the telltale mcr-1 gene. It was also found in 16 of the 1,322 specimens taken from hospitals.
The lower infection rate among humans almost certainly means that the resistant bacteria passed from animals to humans, the study found.
It said that while mcr-1 was "currently confined to China" it was likely to spread globally.
"This is a worrying report, as polymyxins are often the last resort antibiotic to treat serious infections," said Laura Piddock, a professor of microbiology at the University of Birmingham.
"Equally worrying is that this type of resistance can be easily transferred between bacteria."
- Nothing to fight disease -
Other types of drug resistance - such as for tuberculosis - show that "this likely paves the way for it to spread throughout the world," she added.
Some 480,000 people contracted multi-drug resistant tuberculosis in 2014, according to the WHO. The disease killed 190,000 in the same year.
Professor Timothy Walsh of the University of Cardfiff, who collaborated on the study, told the BBC News website antibiotics could soon become useless.
"If MRC-1 becomes global, which is a case of when not if, and the gene aligns itself with other antibiotic resistance genes, which is inevitable, then we will have very likely reached the start of the post-antibiotic era," he said.
"At that point if a patient is seriously ill, say with E. Coli, then there is virtually nothing you can do."
The study will renew debate about the use of colistin in animal husbandry, researchers said.
"The finding that this type of resistance can be shared by different bacteria - irrespective of whether from food, an animal or a person - is further evidence that the same drugs should not be used in veterinary and human medicine," Piddock said.
All,
Well we had our own little Lunar North Node transit in Virgo, S.Node in Pisces, crisis yesterday. Some of you know that we have had specific threads on the environment, Pope John, the animal or daemon thread, and a Pluto in Capricorn/ world events thread before we stopped posting to it. Some of the articles in these threads came from the Guardian newspaper out of England. We were contacted by them a couple days ago and threatened with legal action if we did not remove the posts with their articles. As you all know we don't charge any money for coming to this message board. We simply want to pass on information that correlates to the different transits that occur at any point in time so that correlations can be made. All articles are posted with the originating source on them: we are not trying to rip someone off. And many of these articles of course had links right back to the original website, such as the Guardian, that would help in our own small way to their readership.
Well, none of this mattered to the Guardian. How they could even be aware of our little website boggles my mind in the first place. In any case this is a example of how corporations, Pluto now in Capricorn, have such a global reach as defined by their own self interests. And those self interests are about controlling everything that it is possible for them to control.
So we have had to take down those threads.
God Bless, Rad
All,
Ok, let's continue on with our understanding of the transiting Lunar Nodes now moving into Pisces and Virgo for the next 18 months. I would like to present this as various archetypes that, in total, will correlate with these archetypes a little bit at a time. That way if you have questions as we go along it will be much more organized for all concerned. When appropriate we will be using chart examples of well known public people to illustrate and demonstrate the archetypes that we are talking about.
So let's begin.
One of the deepest archetypes that Pisces, the 12th House, and Neptune correlate to is for the Soul to have a core sense of MEANING for it's life. This need and desire for meaning can be an ultimate meaning for living, or it can be a transitory sense of meaning given the nature of whatever circumstances that manifesting at any moment in time.
The desire for ultimate meaning is that which causes the Soul to want to know what is the very basis of the manifest Creation: the natural laws that were set in motion by the act of Creation in the first place. It is within these natural laws that the Soul can, in fact, consciously know and unite with those specific natural laws for it to directly perceive, to the extent possible in human form, the very nature of the manifest Creation.
The desire of ultimate meaning is also that within the Soul that can cause it to invent or project what that ultimate meaning actually is. This invention is then called religions that require beLIEf in that which is being projected in order to have that sense of ultimate meaning. This is obviously very different than direct inner perception that can occur via the alignment of the Soul to the specific natural laws that allow it to do so.
That which is projected or invented as the ultimate meaning in the form of beliefs is, in the end, nothing more than a delusion or illusion where the delusion or illusion is considered, beLIEved, to be true.
Ultimate meaning that occurs through the Soul's alignment with specific natural laws that allow it to directly, inwardly, perceive the nature of the manifest Creation correlates with KNOWLEDGE. There is nothing to "˜believe' because of the directness of the inner perception, knowing, of what those natural laws allow for the Soul to directly perceive.
Right now on our planet the vast majority of humans "˜believe' in some kind of invented religion, some kind of invented God, with all the attendant dogmas, moralities, ethics, and the rights and wrongs of human behavior. And it is because of this fact that almost all the wars and conflicts among humans take place because one religion has to be the "˜right' religion in order for that projected sense of ultimate meaning to be sustained. History right up to the current moment is sad and tragic testimony to this fact. Almost every conflict between humans has at it's core some group with their definition of "˜god' fighting or hurting and killing another group of peoples with another definition of god.
When a Soul is in alignment with the natural laws that allow for direct inner knowing, perception, of the manifest Creation that knowing/ perception that occurs IS THE SAME FOR ALL HUMAN SOULS. As a result, such Soul's do not need to compete or go to war with other human beings through the vehicle of the invented religions and their gods.
When the transiting S.Node of the Moon goes into Pisces, especially now in conjunction with the Neptune transit itself being in Pisces, and the transiting N.Node goes into Virgo it becomes a time, an evolutionary imperative, to critically analyze that which is constituting the sense of meaning in the life of the Soul: whether that meaning is a temporal, transiting, or ultimate sense of meaning. This is true for all of us in a generalized sense.
Whatever beliefs that the Soul has are the determinants of how phenomenal reality is interpreted. How phenomenal reality is interpreted, as determined by the nature of the beliefs, is that which is then the meaning that the Soul creates and projects upon the nature of phenomenal reality. These beliefs, whatever they are, then become the determinants of how the Soul takes in new information, and how that information is then communicated to others: Virgo, the 6th House, and Mercury.
If other Souls have different beliefs which create different meanings relative to phenomenal reality and the events that take place in that reality, then crisis and conflict can occur among Souls, and among whole groups of Souls. Remember that most Souls, in order to feel emotionally and psychological secure, must be self consistent. And, again, self consistency is a function of the past that is shaping and defining each moment in time where that moment in time is also interfacing with the yet undefined future. The undefined future can be a threat to the need to feel emotionally and psychologically secure which is why most souls project their past into the current moment, and the yet undefined future. This is exactly why history tends to repeat itself.
Relative to Pisces, the 12th House, and Neptune the beliefs that can be projected by the Soul ARE ONLY LIMITED TO THAT WHICH CAN BE IMAGINED. When invented or projected beliefs correlate to some ultimate cosmology that constitutes the meaning for any given Soul we can now see why most Souls will resist any challenge that threatens that invented ultimate cosmology. The desire and need to be "˜right' is that which is the cause of the resistance, and the need to be "˜right' is the mirror of the need to be self consistent in order to feel secure.
In the times we now live in we are all exposed by way of radio, television, and the internet to the incredible diversity and spectacle of what humans are capable of making themselves "˜believe', of how phenomenal reality, specific events that all humans are exposed too, are "˜interpreted'. And each human that does this, of course, knows that whatever it is that they think they know as determined by their beliefs is of course correct and right. And that any other Soul that does not agree with them, who is "˜wrong', is a potential threat to their own concocted "˜reality'. Thus almost all humans are critical of other humans who do not agree with whatever it is that they believe to be true.
Wherever the transiting Pisces S.Node of the Moon is in any given chart by house relative to the placement of the natal Neptune by house, sign, the aspects to it, and the S.Node of Neptune by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it, will correlate to what parts of the past of the Soul's evolutionary journey has constituted the core sense of meaning, ultimate or temporal, that will either be sustained and evolved, or that which no longer holds any meaning at all and is thus dissolved.
The transiting N.Node of the Lunar Node in Virgo correlates to the evolutionary future of any given Soul relative to the transiting S. Lunar Node in Pisces. Thus, the Virgo, Mercury, 6th House archetypes of analytical discrimination serve as the vehicle through which the Soul will or can know of that which needs to be sustained that constitutes the sense of meaning, and that which does not: that which seems to be dissolving because of the prior meaning being no longer holding any meaning at all.
Since it is the transiting Lunar North Node that correlates with the evolutionary future we can now understand that when this is in the sign Virgo that the Soul, collectively or individually, can create crisis, in one way or another, in which the very nature of the crisis created serves as the way, a natural way, for the Soul to be forced to examine the REASONS OR CAUSES of that created crisis. Additionally, the Soul is forced to examine how and why it interprets whatever the crisis is where the interpretation is a function of the pre-existing beliefs that the Soul assumes to be true.
Crisis can thus serve as a vehicle in which the Soul becomes disillusioned relative to some pre-existing assumption that is defined by the nature of existing beliefs about the nature of whatever. Being disillusioned then correlates with an evolutionary need or imperative to align with actual reality versus the illusion or delusion caused by some belief that was not, by it's nature, actually true.
One of the typical reactions by Souls to when some existing delusion/ illusion caused by beliefs is exposed because of the nature of an existing crisis is to sustain that existing delusion or illusion by inventing another belief in order to do so. This is done in order to sustain the sense of meaning despite the fact that the meaning itself is a delusion. If not, a sense of meaninglessness takes place, and, within that, an existential void takes over. That void is about an emptiness that takes over, and within that emptiness a deep sense of being utterly alone. And, within this, the real sense of what is being dissolved or removed is not being replaced by anything.
Right now let's use the chart of Tom Cruise to illustrate some of these points, his natal chart, and his natal chart with the current transits is attached. To view these charts in full size simple click on the chart 'jpg': it will then download to your computer, fill your screen.
As most of you know Cruise has been utterly enmeshed and defined by the 'religion' called Scientology for many, many years now. You can see through his natal chart that his S.Node of Neptune in Aquarius in his 3rd is conjunct his 4th House Saturn in Aquarius, his N.Node of Neptune is in his 9th conjunct his Moon, and these Nodes of Neptune are square his natal Neptune in Scorpio in his 1st House. This is ruled by his natal Pluto in Virgo in the 11th, and that is in opposition to his Jupiter in Pisces in his 5th which is conjunct Chiron. The planetary ruler of his S.Node of Neptune, Uranus, is in Leo conjunct his Venus, and S.Node of Venus in his 10th. The ruler of his N.Node of Neptune is the Sun in Cancer in his 9th.
We can clearly see how this Soul has orientated in past lives leading into the current one towards 'religious' or psychological organizations that offered some sort of projected cosmology that offered some ultimate meaning to those who were attracted to it. We can see that such groups were typically 'different' or outside the mainstream of consensus religions. We can see that he has had positions of great authority within these, and that that authority in that context created a sense of fame: of being an icon to others. We can also see that the actual reality of those organizations was/is very different that what the projected cosmology was offering by way of that serving as the 'hook' to attract it's followers. His natal Pluto, the ruler of his natal Neptune, is Mercury in Gemini in his 8th: duplicity is the underlying issue here.
When Cruise has been challenged by others about the actual reality of Scientology his is reduced to an almost hysterical/ maniacal defense of it. This is clearly seen in this natal signature that we are talking about here. Hysteria and being maniacal, as archetypes, correlate specifically to Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House.
Netflix has recently released a documentary made by HBO called 'going clear' that exposes what Scientology is, and how it came to be by it's founder: Hubbard. This has occurred as the Neptune transit is in opposition to his natal Pluto, and conjunct his Neptune and Chiron. Documentary films specifically correlate to the 11th house, Aquarius, and Uranus and their polarity of the 5th House, Leo, and the Sun. Yet this Neptune transit is also trining his natal Neptune and his Sun which will allow his to sustain and defend his enmeshment with the delusion of Scientology anyway.
Here are some links for you to check out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWPeSsxpfew
Once you are on You Tube by clicking on that link we will then see other clips you can also click on about Scientology and Cruise.
The case of Cruise could of course be exampled in so many ways in the form of this or that religion, this or that key person in this or that religion, and so on. Right now we are simply using him as an example of how the Neptune archetype can be used by so many to make themselves 'believe' is some projected ultimate meaning that, in actual reality, is a total delusion
If you have any questions, before we move along, please ask them of me now.
God Bless, Rad
Hi Cat,
Thanks for providing all the information about all this 'stuff'. I simply had no idea about any of this. My intent was purely educational relative to those other threads/ posts that had to be taken down, and to allow for the relevant astrological correlations to be made in terms of events at specific points in time.
The corporate world, to me, is the very embodiment of what has gone wrong with the human organism: shifting the inner definition, the defining archetypes of how it's consciousness is structured, from giving, sharing, and inclusion to one of utter self interest and exclusion. The 'profit' for the few being the values that this generate, versus that which 'profits' all humans equally.
And, that, to me, explains, in essence, what has gone so horribly wrong for humanity for many thousands of years now.
Fuck ...
and...
God Bless, Rad
Hi Rad,
For myself I thought I'd go through how you'd derived your analysis of Tom Cruise's chart, to see if I was on track with it, and so if it's OK I've outlined it here. If I've got anything wrong with it anywhere would you mind correcting me?
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QuoteAs most of you know Cruise has been utterly enmeshed and defined by the 'religion' called Scientology for many, many years now. You can see through his natal chart that his S.Node of Neptune in Aquarius in his 3rd is conjunct his 4th House Saturn in Aquarius, his N.Node of Neptune is in his 9th conjunct his Moon, and these Nodes of Neptune are square his natal Neptune in Scorpio in his 1st House. This is ruled by his natal Pluto in Virgo in the 11th, and that is in opposition to his Jupiter in Pisces in his 5th which is conjunct Chiron. The planetary ruler of his S.Node of Neptune, Uranus, is in Leo conjunct his Venus, and S.Node of Venus in his 10th. The ruler of his N.Node of Neptune is the Sun in Cancer in his 9th.
We can clearly see how this Soul has orientated in past lives leading into the current one towards 'religious' or psychological organizations that offered some sort of projected cosmology that offered some ultimate meaning to those who were attracted to it.
To see how a soul has been 'orientated' in recent past lives one of the key things we need to look at in the chart after Pluto is the lunar S.Node. Here we find it in Aquarius/3rd with Saturn conjunct it, and also Neptune squaring it. If a planet is squaring one lunar Node it will be squaring both, so with Neptune squaring the lunar Nodal axis we know that in recent past lives there have been major issues for this soul where both lunar nodes (Aquarius/3rd and Leo/9th) have been activated in prior lives, which has resulted in skipped steps of a Neptunian nature (religion or spirituality depending on evolutionary state). And with Neptune being in Scorpio these issues will also have had a deep psychological aspect to them.
Looking closer we can also see that the nodal axis of Neptune also lines up exactly with the lunar nodal axis - the S.Node of Neptune is conjunct the S.Node of the Moon and the N.Node of Neptune is conjunct the N.Node of the Moon, and so Neptune is also squaring it's own nodal axis as well as the lunar nodal axis. This shows us that the religious issues the Soul has been grappling with are not limited to recent past lives but are ancient, stemming back for thousands of years.
The ruler of this ancient and recent past symbolised by the S.Node of Neptune and S.Node of the Moon in Aquarius (social groups) is Uranus (personal unconscious), which is in Leo in the 10th house (of organisations), conjunct Venus (attraction/listening based on one's beliefs leading to "personal meaning"). And both Uranus and Venus are ruled by the Sun, which is in mutual reception with the Moon, both in the 9th house (cosmological/metaphysical viewpoints, beliefs and understanding).
Aquarius, Uranus and the 11th house also correlate with all kinds of projection.
So on a soul level Tom Cruise has been and still is attracted to social organisations (Pluto in 11th) that promise to support his pre-existing sense of personal meaning coming through into this life (S.Node of Venus in Leo conjunct current life Venus, in the 10th house) which is based on the projected cosmology (Pluto in 11th; Nep/Moon S.Nodes in Aquarius ruled by Uranus ruled by Sun/Moon in the 9th) offered by these organisations (10th), promising ultimate meaning (Neptune squaring it's own and the lunar nodes & Venus; with Venus then ruling the 12th house cusp <of ultimate meaning>; plus Sagittarius <cosmology> is on the 2nd house cusp <of personal needs and listening leading to personal meaning> which in turn is ruled by Jupiter in Pisces <ultimate meaning> opposite Pluto (the Soul) which rules Neptune <the active seeking of ultimate meaning>).
QuoteWe can see that such groups were typically 'different' or outside the mainstream of consensus religions
The groups this soul has been attracted to have been different or outside of the mainstream of consensus religions shown by Neptune squaring the lunar S.Node which is in Aquarius (uniqueness) with it's ruler Uranus being in the 10th (mainstream society). The Soul is attracted to these kinds of groups because it is attempting to have it's own difference and uniqueness mirrored to it through it's projections (Pluto in 11th house).
QuoteWe can see that he has had positions of great authority within these, and that that authority in that context created a sense of fame: of being an icon to others
With Saturn conjunct the S.Nodes of both Neptune and the Moon the soul has obviously gravitated to being as substantial an authority as possible in all the religious systems it has been involved in.
And because Neptune is squaring both nodal axes this means the two N.Nodes in Leo have also been activated for a long time as well as the S.Nodes in Aquarius.
Given these positions of great religious authority in those past lives involving such a very strong Leo influence, and that influence now manifesting through the personal planets Moon and Venus at the peak of the chart ... it is extremely likely that in this life, accompanying this subconscious memory of past life authority, there is an intense desire to reactivate that authority to facilitate becoming again an idol/being very popular/rising to the top of the pyramid.
Additionally with Mars in the 7th house (conscious desires manifesting within relationships) being in a disseminating square (doing it
my way) to the 10th house Venus (listening to myself and others, formulating then attracting what I need) and a last quarter square (before completion - wrapping up experience, extracting the essential before moving on) to the 10th house Uranus (stubborn adherence - otherwise innovation/change/rebellion if need be) ruling those S.Nodes conjunct Saturn (past authority in groups) ... the tendency would most likely be to sometimes resist anything being changed at all, while at others willfully projecting his own needs and desires (Venus and Mars) onto those he was in a relationship with (7th house, Venus and Mars).
Plus with Mars also semi-squaring (relinquishing personal focus) the Sun (the vital integrating sense of oneself and one's current purpose ... ruling all the 9th/10th house Moon and Neptune N.Nodes, Venus, Moon and Uranus) that intense desire would have been very developed, crystallized and fulfilled. And that this desire has actually made the soul famous in many lives is clearly evident in Neptune squaring the lunar and Neptune nodal axes - to the point where this soul's evolution has been very complicated by it's seeking of fame and power in a religious context ... rather than seeking spiritual truth (the grand trine of Neptune/Sun/Jupiter in Pisces) - and this is what has resulted in skipped steps.
QuoteWe can also see that the actual reality of those organizations was/is very different that what the projected cosmology was offering by way of that serving as the 'hook' to attract it's followers. His natal Pluto, the ruler of his natal Neptune, is Mercury in Gemini in his 8th: duplicity is the underlying issue here.
The skipped steps that Neptune signifies (because of squaring it's own and the lunar nodal axes) involve using manipulation (Neptune in Scorpio) to attain that fame. With Pluto in Virgo in the 11th house ruling Neptune, the manipulation is done by presenting an "honest and humble" (Virgo) facade to the general public (11th), yet this couldn't be further from the truth (Pluto opposes Jupiter <truth>). However this was precisely the hook created by the religions he was involved in.
We can see that, with the ruler of that "honest" Pluto (Mercury) being in Gemini, it would have been highly likely there would have been two sides to the matter, certainly more than originally presented. Looking closer, we see this Mercury in Gemini (doubly emphasized duality) operating in the 8th house (of hidden motives). Possibility for things to not only become duplicated, but as well to get involved and also more intense - and then potentially murky as a result of that.
At the same time, Mercury is squaring (resisting) the Jupiter
potential for truthfulness. Potential in the sense that Pluto (our deepest resistance to loss of consistency) is opposed to Jupiter, and is capable of repressing and/or distorting Jupiter's truth. With Mercury
also squaring Jupiter, that potential repression of the truth becomes further anchored in the psyche and thus even more likely still.
Additionally Mercury is trining (co-operating with) the long past of authority (Saturn conjunct both S.Nodes). From this final picture it's clear that - given the whole context involving the Neptune skipped steps as previously discussed - it's probably inevitable that dodgy, deceitful tactics would have been in play to a lessor or greater extent, by the religions this soul has been part of and the religious authority this soul itself has been, in so many prior lives.
thank you Rad
Hi Upasika,
Yes, your EA analysis is spot on, excellent. Thanks for taking the time to share this with us Upasika.
God Bless, Rad
All,
Ok, let' continue on with our discussion and understanding of the transiting Lunar Nodes that have shifted in Pisces/ Virgo. Because the S.Node has moved into Pisces we can also discuss the transit of Neptune itself.
We have learned that the transiting S.Lunar Nodes correlates the parts of our past, the past of this or other lives, that the Soul is accessing during the transit of the S.Lunar Node in the time frame that it takes to go through whatever house. We have learned that this past is always shaping and defining the nature of each current moment as that moment interfaces with the yet undefined future. That dynamic tension between the past and the evolutionary future is experienced by us all is each moment: the nature of the 'moment' is the exact intersection, interfacing, between the past and the future. The transiting N.Node correlates to archetypes/ dynamics that symbolize and reflect the nature of what the evolutionary forces are that correlate to the unfolding future.
We now discuss another core archetype that correlates with Pisces, Neptune, and the 12th House that the transit of the Lunar S.Node, and the transit of Neptune in general, applies too. And that is one of culmination. Culmination of existing dynamics/ archetypes that have manifested in the life of the Soul, it's individual context, that are part of it's existing reality, the past leading to the moment, that are no longer necessary for the Soul to keep in place in terms of it's ongoing evolutionary needs.
Any glass can hold only so much water. So too with the Soul. There can only be so much that is part of it's reality at any point in time because, of course, water can overflow from the glass. So that which necessarily needs to culminate in order for something new to begin will be symbolized by house that the transiting S.Node is moving through, aspects to this Node from natal planets, the location of the natal Neptune by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it, and the location of the S.Node of Neptune by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it.
This very same thing can occur where the transit of Neptune is as well: by house, sign, and aspects to it.
The transiting N.Node in Virgo will then correlate, because of it's specific pull to the evolutionary future of the Soul, to the psychological experience that that which had been holding 'meaning before, the transit of the S.Node, no longer holds that meaning. That which is necessarily ending can now feel empty, meaningless, the inner sense of being 'done' with whatever it is. This then requires a Virgo adjustment to be made relative to that which is ending relative to that which wants to evolve: that which is new. That which is new that requires the adjustment is then symbolized by the house that the N.Node transit it is, the location of it's natal planetary ruler and all the aspects to it from other natal planets, and the location of the N.Node of Mercury by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it.
The adjustments necessary thus require what concrete, practical, necessary steps must be taken by the Soul to bring into actual reality that which the 'promises' of the new can be: the 'promise' is Pisces, Neptune, and the 12th house archetypes relative to the actual or concrete reality that the archetypes of Virgo, Mercury, and the 6th house as archetypes can make happen.
This very same thing can occur where the transit of Neptune is as well: by house, sign, and aspects to it. And because it is Pisces now the natural polarity of Virgo applies in the very same was as does the N.Node of the Lunar Node in Virgo.
So now reflect on your own charts to objectify and understand these things. If you have any questions please ask them of me now before we move on.
God Bless, Rad
All,
We have just focused on how the Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House can correlate to where a Soul can project its ultimate sense of meaning for life with the resulting disillusionment that will come when that projection is anything other than the desire to know the Ultimate Source Of All Things, or when we realize that what we have projected as some kind of ultimate meaning upon something is, in actual reality, nothing but an illusion or delusion.
One of the archetypal dimensions of the Neptune archetype, because it is about the Ultimate Source of All Things, is rooted in the fact that that Source can inwardly induce within the consciousness of the individual Soul impulses manifesting as thoughts that leads to desires to act upon, actualize, those impulses. These impulses are linked with the ongoing evolutionary journey of each Soul, and these impulses, if acted upon, are one of the ways that a Soul can 'spiritualize' their lives: to align it with this sense of being inwardly directed by a higher 'Source'.
This spiritualization occurs OF ITSELF if acted upon. In other words, any given Soul may not even have the language of the Source Of All Things, a religion or philosophy, within their consciousness. Yet, if acted upon, because these impulses are being ignited by the Source a NATURAL spiritualization process will occur: a natural expansion of consciousness. Thus, this can manifest in any of the four natural evolutionary states of the Soul.
These impulses will be linked with the natal placement of Neptune by house and sign, and the aspects to the other planets that it makes: the archetypes of those planets and houses. These impulses also manifest relative to the South and North Nodes of Neptune by their own house, sign, and aspects to them. These impulses will also manifest via the 12th House, and the location of the sign Pisces in the birth chart which then refers back to the natal house location of Neptune: the natural planetary ruler of Pisces.
These impulses, anatomically speaking, manifest from pineal gland deep within the brain by way of a hormone called melatonin. The neurotransmitters within the brain carries these impulses to the right and left brain hemispheres that originally manifest as a deep inner 'whisper' within the consciousness of the individualized Soul, whispers that reflect and contain the 'messages' of the impulses themselves. These whispers at first manifest within the right brain kind of like a big sign way in the distance that will progressively become ever closer IF the Soul pays attention to it. On that sign will be some sort of message, like on a billboard, that symbolizes the very nature of the original impulses themselves.
So, for example, on a billboard there could be sign that symbolizes movies. In time that sign will manifest as messages by way of the left brain that would then translate, for example, into the IDEA of being a film maker. The left brain will then begin to analyze and figure out how to make that idea a reality: from a to z, so to speak.
If the Soul does indeed desire to act upon these original impulses of Neptune, etc., in this natural way, then a natural spiritualization of the Soul's consciousness, an inner expansion, will occur because, after all, these impulses are being induced by the Source Of All Things. So to act upon them is to move in the direction of that Source in ways that are natural to each Soul.
The transit of the Lunar S.Node in Pisces by house, and the aspects to it, the natal Neptune by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it, and the S.Node of Neptune by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it will correlate to how the Source Of All Things can stimulate the creation of these 'whispers' within the interior of the consciousness of the Soul that repeat themselves, and/ or what appears to be repeating messages in the external environment, that correlate with 'directions' from on high that allow the Soul to heal pre-existing dynamics and conditions in it's life, to evolve existing dynamics and conditions in new and expanded ways, or to become aware of something brand new that will allow the Soul to expand and evolve if acted upon.
By acting upon these 'whispers' from the Source Of All things then requires necessary adjustments to our existing reality: the transiting North Lunar Node of Virgo by house, sign, and aspects to it, the location of natal Mercury by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it, and the location of the N.Node of Mercury by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it. By make the necessary adjustments the Soul is then improving itself. By improving itself in these natural growth ways the Soul can then help others improve themselves in some way.
The transiting North Lunar Node of the Moon in Virgo, by house and aspects to it, the natal Mercury, and the N.Node of Mercury by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it can also correlate to where and how the Soul finds 'reasons', excuses, not to evolve and grow in the way that these repeating messages from on high, the Source Of All Things, correlate too. In essence, when this happens, the Soul is then undermining itself. As an EA astrologer it then becomes necessary to know and understand what the reasons are that the Soul is doing such a thing for.
It is important to remember that these messages from the Source Of All Things, if truly from that Source, will REPEAT THEMSELVES OVER AND OVER in order to get the attention of the Soul. We all have the S.Node of Neptune in Aquarius. Uranus, Aquarius, and the 11th House all correlate to the individuated unconscious is all of us. The Source Of All Things 'communicates' Itself within our Souls that peculates up into our conscious awareness, the Moon and Saturn, via our individuated unconscious. As such the messages from the Source Of All Things will repeat, Uranus, Aquarius, the 11th House, themselves so that the egocentric structure of the consciousness of the Soul can tune into them, and, hopefully, act upon them.
So allow yourselves to reflect on your own birth charts now in this way. Know how this natural process works in your own lives so that you can help others understand theirs.
If you have any questions please ask them of me now.
God Bless, Rad
All,
At this point I thought it would be good to make another example of all that we have been discussing to this point in our understanding and application of the transiting Lunar Nodes, and the transit of Neptune. Of course this can also include transiting planets in aspect to natal Neptune as well as transiting planets moving through the 12th House, in aspect to the natal Neptune Nodal Axis, and in aspect to planets in the natal 12th House in terms of understanding the total picture of the Neptune, Pisces, and 12th House archetypes given that we are now focusing on the fact the the transiting Lunar Nodes has just shifted to Pisces and Virgo.
The example will be the founder of Evolutionary Astrology itself: JWG. Some of you are aware that the entire 'idea' of EA came to him in a dream one night in which the entire first book on Pluto was given to him. The whole book in one dream. This dream took place shortly after he had begun to read the book called Autobiography Of A Yogi by Yogananda. Yogananda's teacher or guru was a Soul named Yukestwar who was also a 'galactic astrologer'. The dream was actually caused by Yukestwar. The dream was all in Sanskrit which JWG often dreamed in and understood perfectly in the dreams: as well as other languages. You will notice in his birth chart that his S.Node of Neptune is in the 3rd House in Aquarius. Thus, in his context, this is the symbol of dreaming in other languages. The ruler of his Lunar Node is Jupiter in his 12th House as well that squares his Neptune Nodal Axis.
In any case on the night that he had this dream the transit of Pluto was conjunct his natal Neptune in his 11th, trine his S.Node of Neptune in his 3rd, and sextile his N.Node of Neptune in the 9th. The transiting S.Lunar Node of the Moon was in Aries in his 6th, karma yoga, that then refers to his natal 2nd House Mars in Sagittarius. That Mars is conjunct the S.Node of Uranus which was receiving the transiting Neptune at that time. That Neptune was also trine his natal Pluto and Saturn, sextile the natal Neptune, square in Moon in Pisces in the 4th. That Moon was then receiving a sextile from the transiting Mars itself that was in Taurus. The transiting S.Node of Mars was also directly conjunct the natal Neptune that was, again receiving the transiting Pluto. The transiting S.Node of Mars was thus also making the trine to his S.Node of Neptune, sextiling the N.Node of Neptune. And you are reading this now as the transiting Mars is exactly conjunct his natal Neptune right now.
The transiting N.Node of the Moon was in Libra in his 12th House that then referred to his natal Venus in Scorpio in his 1st yet conjunct his natal 12th House Jupiter. His natal Venus is also conjunct his N.Node of Venus in his 1st. The transiting North of the Moon was forming as exact transiting trine to his natal Uranus in the 8th house, and sextilling his natal Mars in his 2nd which is in opposition to this natal Uranus. This Uranus was being transited by Jupiter which is, again the ruler of his Lunar S.Node. The transiting Venus when the dream manifested was in Taurus in his 7th, in opposition to his natal Venus, Jupiter, Mercury, the N.Node of Venus, and squaring his M.C. and I.C.
Once he had this dream he began to lecture, to put it into the astrology world, immediately. And, yes, there was much opposition to him and this revolutionary form of astrology that he founded called Evolutionary Astrology by the existing powers that be. Yet wherever he went in the world with this lecture the lecture halls were always packed. And to this day it continues to spread around the world. With the S.Node of his Neptune in mind consider that the first book on Pluto has been put into, at various points, Chinese, French, German, Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese, Bulgarian, Bosnian, and English.
As you look at the charts you will see other connections as well.
If you have any questions and/ or observations that you would like to share please do so now before we continue on.
God Bless, Rad
This is really interesting to see the dream itself and the exact aspects to JWG's chart.
Providence it seems.
In addition to those transits Rad mentioned (Pluto on Neptune, Neptune on SN) I thought the (second) Saturn return across Pluto (and asteroid Urania, I believe?) has the gravitas of a dharma seal.
The dream itself, which seems to come through during Bramha Muhurta, has Kassandra interestingly in a wide conjunction in late Aries linking SN in Aries to Chiron and its own SN in Taurus all in the 11th- as an indicator for not being believed or persecuted for that wisdom. Kassandra also in JWG's chart (conjunct Vesta) squaring the Nodes i.e. SN resolution..And, if it couldn't get better, Pallas Athene transiting 8' of Virgo across JWG's natal Lucifer in the 10th.. squaring the nodes and resolving through the North.
For reasons I was never quite clear about (since I was a child, also until now) I always felt a seraph influence from her, though not in the strictest Judeo-Christian sense. Referred to as the 'goddess of nearness' and 'protectress of heroes' she lifts the spirits of those fighting the good fight. Whether she reminded Lucifer to be the 'light bringer', or that he was once close to God and to step aside and let the idea pass and be born through (NN), or whether he was backed up with a spear to the neck.. that is an angel.
Hm.
Hi All,
Rad, thank you for sharing this wonderful illustration of the power of EA. This is a perfect example of how those WHISPERS from eternity became so loud and clear. The timing for such an entrance of this invaluable work was divinely induced and clearly destined to be ~ lucky us ~ and thank you Yukestwar.
I remember Jeffrey used to talk about how EA would continue to blow him away as he observed the world around him, as well as when the teachings would personally 'hit home'. He was forever amazed and humbled by the precision of this incredible work.
He referred to himself as nothing more than God's 'errand boy', North Node in Gemini in the 7th conjunct Uranus in the 8th, ruler Mercury station direct in Scorpio in the 1st, conjunct the Ascendant and Jupiter in the 12th. The very last thing he ever wanted anyone to do was to put him up on a pedestal. He wanted none of the credit or the glory. It was enough to know that people were waking up to these teachings and making the effort to see the truth so they can heal.
I am reminded again of how EA unveils the truth at every turn, not only when observing the remarkable timing of the dream in Jeffrey's chart, but as I applied the current transits that are in place when this information was revealed and shared.
The day Rad posted on the founder, transiting Mars was in Libra, EXACTLY conjunct Jeffrey's Neptune in the 11th, Mars being the activation point, giving energy to anything it contacts. In this case it awakened, 11th house, this download of the dream, for us all to glean from these teachings, and to learn of the power of timing and divine influence.
Transiting Mars is conjunct Jeffrey's Neptune in Libra and currently together they are forming a Grand Trine, to his North Node in Gemini in the 7th, and his South Node of Neptune in Aquarius in the 3rd, the ruler Uranus also in Gemini in the 8th house, the house of Soul.
Transiting Mars is also sextile the North Node of Neptune in the 9th in Leo, which is conjunct his Pluto, the chart ruler. The ruler for transiting Mars in Libra, Venus Rx in Scorpio, trines transiting Chiron, which is also conjunct his Moon in Pisces. The ruler of his Venus Rx in Scorpio, is Pluto in the 9th with Saturn and conjunct the NN of Neptune in Leo, reflecting the teachings as they continue to be disseminated internationally, all around the world, in many languages.
The transiting South Node in Pisces in his 5th, is ruled by his natal Neptune in the 11th, soul astrology downloaded through dream, which is now being activated by that Mars. The transiting ruler of the South Node is Neptune in Pisces in the 4th and inconjunct the tr Mars and his natal Neptune.
Transiting North Node in Virgo, is in his 10th house, the ruler Mercury, is in Sagittarius, teacher of natural laws, and is conjunct Jeffrey's South Node, Sun and natal Mars in Sagittarius, truly a teacher of the ages.
A swell of great fortune it is that I feel to be connected to this sacred work, and to be able to share in the joy of discovery with all of you.
Thanks again Rad for keeping the EA engine oiled..
Peace,
Kristin
Katherine,
Elsie Wheeler's original sabian symbol for Jeffrey's natal Kassandra is "The Harvest Moon Illumines A Clear Autumnal Sky".
What a beautiful image for the insight and wisdom that Jeffrey, along with Yukestwar, has brought to Earth. I notice EA often seeping into conventional astrology circles, around the edges at least - word is spreading and it is so easily experienced/validated it cannot be otherwise really. And with a sabian like that I can only see Kassandra succeeding, which as we know isn't always the case. Also in my experience that is very correct re Pallas, all of those things.
blessings Upasika
Hi All,
Rad, thanks for posting JWG´s chart and sharing some more of his story, I would like to comment, hopefully tomorrow or after tomorrow.
Kristin, thanks for what you wrote, I know and hope JWG knows in his heart and Soul that so many Souls have benefitted from his relentless work, on behalf of the Source thru Yukteswar and will continue to benefit. It´s also quite obvious from his chart and life path that it wasn´t an easy task and that the giving was unconditional.
Upasika, I also notice EA seeping into other forms of astrology in a big way and it will continue to do so. It´s the evolution of astrology itself!
All the best
All,
I thought, at this point, that I would post information about the nature of dreams themselves. This comes from the recent book on Neptune book which started out as a thread here on the mb. As such, there are questions and answers that followed what was originally presented. If any of you have additional questions on this please feel free to ask.
God Bless, Rad
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NEPTUNE AND DREAMS
Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House correlate to the phenomena of dreams that occurs within the consciousness of the Soul while sleeping. Thus, the phenomena of sleep itself correlates with these archetypes.
Why sleep at all ? Why does the consciousness of the Soul need to sleep The reason is that consciousness in human form is constantly bombarded by all kinds of stimulus on any given day. This stimulus of all kinds of circumstances that the Soul has created, as well as the internal stimulus that goes on at all times by way of thoughts, emotions, inner dialogues and analysis, and so on.
In combination these stimulus overwhelm consciousness that manifests as feeling increasingly tired. Thus, the Soul needs sleep in order to regenerate itself by way of a relax state of consciousness that sleep induces.
Yet even in the sleep state the Soul will create what we call 'dreams' within consciousness. The question then becomes why dream at all. The answer to that question is found by way of examining the three natural types of dreams that are caused within consciousness by the Soul.
The most common types of dreams are non-sensible. This are the types of dreams that mean nothing at all. These types of dreams are the result of all the different types of stimulus that the Soul encounters on any given day. This types of dreams then are a natural way for the Soul to cleanse itself, to repair itself. To regenerate itself by way of these types of dreams. In essence, the Soul is releasing the results of all the types of stimulus that it encounters on any given day.
Past life dreams. There are two types of past life dream. (1) dreams that occur over and over in which a core dynamic that has been caused in prior lives is experienced in a variety of ways on a repeated basis. The images the Soul creates in these types of dreams can be varied and yet that core theme or dynamic from prior lives is replayed over and over. These types of past life dreams occur to the Soul because whatever those dynamics are from the past that are causing these types of dreams has not been resolved. Thus, the Soul causes these types of dreams not only for the self-knowledge they are intended to create, but to also try resolve those past life dynamics in this way. (2) a dream that is about a singular past life. In other words 'dreaming' about an actual past life that has occurred for the Soul. These types of dreams will almost always be very dark in nature, not dark in the sense of something ugly, but dark by way of the luminance of the dream itself: it's is like looking to see something through a shadow. The reason the Soul can have such a dream is that the very nature of the life that the past life is about will have some direct bearing on the current life being lived.
Super conscious dreams. Super conscious dreams are 'dreams' that the Soul can create wherein the Soul is 'transported' to other planes of astral existence such as the astral plane. The Soul will find itself, experience itself, in this other plane of existence in which some kind of super knowledge, transcendent, is given or imparted to the Soul by an entity that is inhabiting that plane of existence. These types of dreams are extremely bright in their luminance. These types of dreams create an incredible sense of emotional, Soul, well-being while in the dream itself. And, typically, when the Soul then becomes awake it will either have the ability to recall this dream in total detail, or, at minimum, a knowing that it has been 'somewhere else' in which something very important took place. In either case the Soul upon wakening will have the feeling of a deep depressive moment or moments that can last for some time until the Soul moves into its daily routine for a period of time.
At times by way of the past life type dreams and/or the super conscious dreams when the Soul awakens it does not immediately remember who it is in the context of the current life egocentric structure created for that life that equals the identity for that life. When this happens a typical inner reaction upon waking is 'who am I, and where am I'.
All dreams emanate from the brain stem or the primary brain will correlates to Pluto, Mars, and the Moon. The 'seat' of the Soul in fact is within the primary brain, or brain stem. The mid brain by way of the limbic system, Neptune, correlates to our emotional responses or reactions to the dreams. So we can now see the natural trinity that correlates to dreams as symbolized by Pluto, Scorpio, the 8th House, Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House, and Cancer, the Moon, and the 4th House. By way of the natural interaction of the primary brain through which drams manifest and the mid-brain and it's limbic system which is pure emotion we can now understand that when we dream our inner reactions to them occur within the emotional body, the natural trinity. This is intentional by way of the Soul because, in the end, the liberation of the Soul takes place within the emotional body.
The Soul gets its most rest, renewed, by not dreaming at all. When the Soul does not dream this is called absolute sleep. Absolute sleep correlates with Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House.
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
(Q) Why is it that some people dream in great detail and others do not? For example, if someone ONLY HAS random feeling imagery and content, what JWG used to call junk dreams, where the Soul is just throwing off all the stimulus from the day, does this say anything about their stage of evolution?
(A) No.
(Q) Could it be true that someone is working through unresolved past live stuff in their dreams but when they wake up they have zero memory of what went on in the night?
(A) Yes. The working out of the unresolved past life stuff is occurring at a subliminal level: the sub-conscious or, in Jungian terms, the individuated unconscious.
(Q) I assume that for someone to have a super conscious dream they would need to be at a certain stage of evolution, Is that true?
(A) No.
(Q)Is not the pineal gland also involved in dream activity through secreting melatonin?
(A) Melatonin is the hormone that induces sleep. It also operates in such a way as to have the emotional responses or reactions to the dreams themselves that, again, manifest instinctually from the primary brain or brain stem: the seat of the Soul itself. Melatonin can also give 'color' to dreams.
(Q) Why can it be so difficult at times to remember any dreams for a long period of time, let's say, months, and then at other times, dreams are remembered during a period of time?
(A) There can be many causes for this Gonzalo. Within all the possible causes there will be one common denominator for this: need. If the Soul is needing to remember or not remember it will or it won't. So the underlying issue is to determine or figure out what that need is about.
(Q) What could be the reason to be in a dream and then experiencing or perhaps just "˜dreaming' that one is pulled between walking up at two different places, from one to the other and back several times, as if one had different yet simultaneous identities/lives where one could wake up at?
(A) This can be an indicator of the Soul creating more than one life at a time.
(Q) Can memories or prior lives that are dreamed be memories of other's or of the collective ?
(A) No.
(Q) why could one dream to be an inhabited 'planet' experiencing a major cataclysm of the whole planet ? .. or about a giant starship carrying the population of a whole, devastated planet being rescued ?
(A) This sort of dream reflects 'content' that the Soul has taken in from various sources that then manifest as dreams of this nature.
(Q) I was wondering if you could speak about dreams wherein one has a dream, or series of dreams, about one's individual future. Is there any different astrological correlations with dreams of this nature? These types of dreams can be symbolic or filled with specific symbolism, there can be a specific emotional presence or theme that is recurring, and also, there can be individuals from the past or that have passed on, who can show up to show a vision of the future. Those are just some types of things that could occur in these types of dreams.
(A) The astrological symbolism of such dreams of course correlates with Uranus. The reoccurring nature of them will generally correlate too and symbolize the Soul's desires, or intentions, to actualize, at some point, that future that is symbolized within these types of dreams in some way that will be assisted in one way or the other by important others.
(Q) "Melatonin is the hormone that induces sleep. It also operates in such a way as to have the emotional responses or reactions to the dreams themselves that, again, manifest instinctually from the primary brain or brain stem: the seat of the Soul itself. Melatonin can also give 'color' to dreams." Is this the role of the Pineal gland and melatonin in spiritualization of consciousness?
(A) As the Soul naturally evolves and the consciousness within it expands in ever widening concentric circles reflecting that expansion melatonin is the hormone secreted from the pineal in direct proportion to that expansion. The determinant for this is desire itself within the Soul. So the more desire the Soul has to expand its consciousness in its ultimate evolutionary journey to return Home to its Source the more the pineal gland secrets this hormone.
(Q) Also, do all Soul desires emanate from the brain stem? or do they also/only emanate from the chakras that are associated with the different types of desires?
(A) The seat of the Soul for all Souls is the brain stem.
(Q) What is that part of us that seems to be constructed only out of fear and has its own sense of self, I have spoken to others who had the same experience of meeting their "shadow side" too, maybe the dark side of the Moon or part of Pluto and it´s resistance?
(A) All fears come from and are enmeshed within the emotional body that the Soul has from within itself. These fears are caused by experiences that the Soul has had at some point and thus constituent emotional memories. It is not uncommon for a Soul to be fragmented from within itself when such emotional memories, and the fears attendant to them, have been severe. When this happens that fragmentation can then cause what you said about having their 'own sense of self'. That sense of 'self' of course are other life identities or ego's that the Soul has created in other lives. This can also occur in the context of a current life when the Soul creates experiences that have such an emotional impact that any fears generated from that can themselves become buried within the consciousness of the Soul as it seeks to contain or repress, Saturn, those experiences/ emotions/ and the fears that come from them. This is coming from the Soul. Any resistance, Pluto, from accessing and dealing with the emotions that have come from these kinds of experiences, and the fears they create, has its own reasons. This of course can be a very complex dynamic in which the Soul will actually have to DESIRE to unlock. Until such a desire manifests from the Soul these types of fears generated from the emotional memory of whatever the experiences have been that are responsible form them will remain. Thus, a seeming 'life of their own'.
(Q) why would a Soul be fearful of anything once it has realized that God has created it and everything is just experience to progress towards the Source?
(A) Because the Soul is the source of what it has created for ITSELF coming through its own evolutionary times/ lifetimes. Thus, any 'future' that the Soul can 'imagine' when linked with unresolved emotional traumas / memories / fears can be PROJECTED into that imagined future.
(Q) Does this also mean that Souls are mostly unaware of their own nature of being a Soul and part of the Source even in the Astral realms, until they reach a certain level of evolution. That they are born as a kind of "baby Souls" and then gain self-awareness?
(A) Yes.
(Q) I´d like to ask a little about how JWG learnt Astrology in his dreams and how it was a way for him to do God´s work. I think it fits really well in the realm of Neptune and the thread and am also personally interested in this. If there is anything you would like to share that could also be beneficial to the ongoing thread, I would appreciate it.
(A) In the early part of JWG'S life he often said he 'hated' things like astrology. As it turned out one of the personal lessons for him was to confront his hatreds of whatever including astrology. He wanted to be a reclusive monk in his life. He was living in a monastery, at the time of his second Jupiter return, when he first had a dream wherein he was 'informed' that his life destiny was to be in the world of astrology.
Of course he was stunned senseless at this dream. At some point he inwardly asked to be taught astrology as he knew nothing of it. So for a period of time he then had dream after dream that taught his the correlative nature of astrology to human beings. Along the way, wherever he lived in the world, he would do charts for free in order to apply that which was being received in dreams.
This went on for a period of years until his first Saturn return. On that very day, which was a Sunday as it turned out, he was walking the streets of Seattle, Washington. He noticed a little astrology store that had one bookcase. He looked into the window and the owner spotted him. She opened the door and asked him to come in. This lead to a conversation wherein that owner asked him to be the astrology teacher for that store.
Shortly after this is when he had his famous dream wherein the entire EA paradigm was downloaded into him: the entire first book that he wrote in detail. This dream came from the guru of Yogananda whom JWG was very committed too, Yukteswar. Interestingly, Yogananda also very much 'hated' or disliked astrology. Yet Yukteswar was very much involved with astrology, especially what we could call 'galactic astrology'.
As we have learned in this thread one of the correlations of Neptune is dreams, and the different kinds of dreams we can have including 'super conscious' dreams. JWG had his Moon in Pisces at 17 degrees. This was exactly Yukteswar's Neptune and Pallas. Yogananda has his Pluto conjunct Neptune which was conjunct JWG'S North Node in Gemini. The ruler of JWG'S South Node was Jupiter in Scorpio in his 12th. This was Yukteswar's South Node as well as Yogananda's who also had Uranus on his South Node. Uranus: astrology. This is also the South Node of Jesus which is also conjunct his own Neptune. As an aside, JWG also had a difficult childhood, without going into any detail. and he mentioned that one of the ways he got through it was with the mother of Jesus, Mary. She would come to him in 'dreams' then and nurture him in that way. The asteroid 'Mary' is also exactly conjunct JWG'S Moon at 17 Pisces.
So we can see through the lens of EA this incredible connections. Again, he wanted to be as he often said 'invisible' to the world, to just be a simple monk. Yet he was taught, inwardly, that to do so in that life was to be 'selfish', a spiritual narcissist really. He was shown in his inner communions that his path was to go into the world and help others in their own desires to go 'home' to their Source: God. To give, and to give without any expectation of reward. Just to give. His North Node was in his 7th House. This is where the astrology came in, but a specific astrology that was to be called Evolutionary Astrology: the language of the Soul. His North Node is also conjunct his natal Uranus in Gemini in the 8th. The symbolism is perfect for what he did in his life.
(Q) Why Astrology as a vehicle to do the Source´s work?
(A) My answer to that would be specific to EA, not astrology in general. The reason being that EA as JWG often said, 'is the language of the Soul'. The whole orientation, it's bottom line, that JWG taught was rooted in the ultimate origin of the Soul, as well as everything else in the Manifest Creation. Thus, the teaching in EA, which mirrors the teaching of Buddha that was rooted in his own enlightenment, about the nature of desire: the dual nature of. Thus, in the context of EA, the language of the Soul that is rooted in this duality of desires wherein the desire for the Soul to return 'home' to its Originator. So the EA that was 'downloaded' into JWG'S dream that came from the guru of Yogananda, Yukteswar, is about the long evolutionary journey of the Soul as defined by desires. So the EA astrology uses the paradigm of EA to understand the Natural Law of cause and effect that is set in motion by desires to help a client understand the 'why' of her or his life, their own evolutionary journey that leads right back to the Source itself. This is also why JWG called those that do this work "Soul workers" who use the language of the Soul through the prism of EA to help others understand the nature of their own Souls.
(Q) ""¦.communicating with Souls in other planes of existence that are no longer in a physical body, telepathic communions"¦"¦"¦" When people dream, do they always communicate in this way? By reading the mind (no sound in the dream, only telepathic communions)? Or does this only happen in certain type of dreams?
(A) This only happens in what JWG called 'super conscious' dreams.
Hi Kristin,
Along with transiting Mars conjunct Jeffrey's Neptune in Libra, and the other key lunar Nodal axis/ruler transits etc to his chart that you talked about, I just spotted that right now (as I post) he is having an exact Lucifer return!
When we take into account those horrific past life experiences battling Lucifer influences, and extending into this life, it is amazing how he has managed to stay with the Bearer of the Light through thick and thin as he went about receiving, digesting, compiling and then distributing EA - tirelessly, so generously. That's so inspiring.
Upasika
Hi Upasika,
Oh wow, EA is truly amazing....and he is still shining a LIGHT for us all..
Peace,
Kristin
HAPPY SOLAR RETURN JWG, a Diamond in the rough!
Love & Gratitude,
Kristin
Hi Rad,
I´m still trying to understand exactly how the transiting South Node is experienced within one´s consciousness and how that past is being brought forth in the current moment. In the case of JWG you stated "karma yoga". It seems the transit of the South Node in Aries in the Sixth House correlated to a time frame in which he was learning about astrology in his own way in order to fulfill his life purpose as he had been shown at his second Jupiter return if this is correct. What i´m getting in relation to his past that he was drawing upon, is that he was a loner and very self contained, transiting South Node in Aires, Mars in Sagittarius in the Second House conjunct the South Node of the Moon in Sagittarius. Within himself he desired to be in total alignment with natural law and simply be in a state of inner peace and inner contemplation that allowed him to understand the cosmos as reflected by his Saturn Pluto balsamic conjunction in the Ninth House. The deep understanding he had developed about the cosmos and workings of existence are what he was drawing upon, as he practiced and perfected whatever he needed to within himself, and relative to his astrological learning process/training, in order to be of service to the Source and others.
Is this correct reasoning?
Also, did JWG have many and/or recent lives in India as symbolized by the North Node of the Moon conjunct Uranus in Gemini, in addition to his South Node of Neptune in the Third House in Aquarius, and in his dream was connecting to the language (Gemini) he spoke, as he already knew and had stored in his long term memory banks (Uranus) and also knew Yukteswar from his potential past life or lives in India, and that would also explain the dream being in Sanskrit?
And interesting how transiting Jupiter was conjunct natal Uranus in the Eighth House in Gemini and Jupiter/Uranus can correlate with a huge sudden AHA!!! moment. It also seems to correlate, amongst the other symbols, with the vast amount of information which was suddenly understood and channeled thru him.
Thank you
All the best
Hi Skywalker,
Yes, all that you wrote, asked about, about JWG is correct. The existing past at that time, among many other dynamics and issues in his life then, was the fact that he had been working as an astrologer before this dream occurred. He had a small counseling practice, and was teaching astrology in the locality where he lived. Once this dream manifested, and he began to teach EA, this became progressively known in the general astrological population beyond where he lived. He was then be invited to speak in different cities, and conferences that began to lead him into other cities in the world. This is then reflected in the transiting Lunar Nodes shifting into Pisces/ Virgo, 5th and 11th, in which this increasing recognition of the work he was doing in EA, brought to him increasing 'fame'. Thus this expanding work required many adjustments, the transiting N.Node in Virgo, in how he was living his life: his lifestyle.. the 11th House. And, of course, he then attracted a lot of criticism for this, Virgo at that time, new type of astrology that became known as Evolutionary Astrology. This criticism of course manifested from the exiting powers that be in the astrology world that felt threatened by him: the ruler of his N.Node Lunar Transiting Node being in Scorpio in his 1st.
God Bless, Rad
All,
If any of you have any questions about anything that has thus far been presented please ask now. We will move on from here starting next week: Monday.
God Bless, Rad
Rad and all,
Thank you for posting Jeff's chart as well as the chart of the Pluto dream. I had not previously spent much time looking at Jeff's chart and find a few points incredibly interesting that I just wanted to remark upon, that connect to the Pluto dream transits. One is that I have been paying a lot of attention to Mercury in my own practice so it is deeply compelling to me that Jeff was born with Mercury stationing direct on his Ascendant- this is quite remarkable and does suggest the meaning of bringing in messages concerning astrology. This is even more fascinating considering that Venus was stationing direct, also on his ascendant- as a result both Mercury and Venus carry increased heightened importance. So, it is further interesting then that at the time of the Pluto dream it was the transiting North Node in Libra in his 12th activating his natal Venus, and that Venus was also in range of an opposition to his natal Mercury, ascendant, and Venus. Also then that the transiting South Node of the Moon was in Aries and that this was also opposite his Mercury, ascendant, and Venus- Venus and Mars having also begun a new cycle shortly before this dream occurred, both being the rulers of the transiting lunar nodes. In addition transiting Saturn was in Leo in square to his Mercury and Venus and so catalyzing all this.
Furthermore, at the time of the Pluto dream within the Mercury synodic cycle Mercury was just separating from its superior conjunction with the Sun. Demetra George in her own astrology work has symbolically linked this aspect as similar to Mercury in Sagittarius, in a sense of a great onrush of ideas occurring including ingenious insight that can potentially flood the individual. In contrast to Mercury retrograde conjoining the Sun at the inferior conjunction, which I see as more of a depth, symbolic, underworld conception point, I've come to see the superior conjunction of Mercury as going along with spiritual epiphanies. Since Jeff has such a potent Mercury in his natal chart this seems especially relevant for him, and the superior conjunction was in Cancer in trine to his Scorpio Jupiter/Ascendant and his Pisces Moon. It was also in range of being trine to his natal Venus, linking it to the transiting North Node of the Moon in Libra in his 12th house.
Then, the fact Rad alluded to that following this as Jeff developed his EA practice the transiting North Node of the Moon went into Virgo that then activated his natal Mercury which is really quite incredible to realize, especially considering that he has a Mercury that stationed direct on his ascendant at birth. I am going to have to spend more time thinking about all of this, but these ideas just struck me and I just wanted to mention them.
It is also interesting what Katherine brought up concerning Kassandra, and as someone who navigates the current astrological world I still see this criticism of evolutionary astrology come up due to it breaking from past astrological traditions conceptually. What I always point out to people is that it truly does work in practice with clients as well as looking at current transits- I continue to find the information I receive from using Jeff's methods with clients to deeply resonate with them.
Thank you Rad for sharing your knowledge on this thread.
love,
Gray
Hi Gray,
Thanks for taking the time and sharing the astrological observations and correlations that you have. Very, very interesting indeed.
God Bless, Rad
All,
At this point I think it is useful to understand the archetypal correlations of Neptune, the 12th House, and Pisces to the nature of what can be called the collective consciousness, and the collective unconscious as they relate to the fact that Neptune is currently transiting Pisces, and the Lunar S.Node is in Pisces for the next 18 months. This is important to understand because of the impact or affect that the collective consciousness/ unconscious has upon the individual consciousness of each Soul. After you read this if you have questions please ask them of me. God Bless, Rad
NEPTUNE - THE COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS AND UNCONSCIOUS
We have come a long way now in our development and understanding of the archetypes of Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House. What I want to do now is to share with you the a very important part of these archetypes which, to me, has been severely underdeveloped in the world of astrology in general. These archetypes concern the collective unconscious, and the collective consciousness. We have now correlated Neptune, the 12th House, and Pisces to the consciousness of the Soul in general, and the nature of the consciousness within any given individual Soul. If we remember that consciousness always assumes and manifests relative to the nature of the form that it exists within then we can understand that the totality of all the dynamics existent in any given Soul determines the 'form' through which it's consciousness will manifest. Within this state of consciousness we must also apply the effect of the collective unconsciousness, Neptune, the 12th House, and Pisces upon the current state of consciousness for any Soul. The collective unconscious correlates to the TOTALITY OF THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE HUMAN ORGANISM TO DATE: THE CURRENT MOMENT. At the same time we need to apply the effects of the collective consciousness to the individual state of Soul consciousness in such a way as to understand how the effects of collective consciousness shapes and defines the individual state of consciousness. The collective consciousness simply means the TOTALITY OF ALL HUMANS EVENTS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE AT ANY POINT IN TIME TO EACH INDIVIDUAL.
2. Within the consciousness of the human organism is an awareness of the totality, the immensity, of the Manifest Creation: of something much larger than any one part of that Manifest Creation. This awareness of course is the causative factor, the determinant, for human consciousness to understand in some way exactly what is the cause of that Manifest Creation. This need to understand this cause then becomes the determinant of creating some kind of cosmology that can explain it. As a result, whatever the agreed upon cause is of that Manifest Creation, at any point in time in the human evolutionary journey, conditions the nature of the individual Soul consciousness. This agreed upon, collective, cosmology thus becomes the CORE STRUCTURE OF THE INDIVIDUAL AND COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS AT ANY POINT IN TIME. This core structure in turn thus conditions every other dynamic within the totality of the collective and individual Soul consciousness itself: it's emotions, it's mental structures, and it's sexuality. Thus, the inner relationship of the collective and individual Soul to whatever the Source of the Manifest Creation is as reflected in the specific cosmologies of any group of humans at any point in time AND PLACE. Thus, however the collective and individual consciousness of the Soul DEFINES the Source of the Manifest Creation is exactly how that Source will be experienced. From the point of view of Natural Laws that were set in motion by the Source Of All Things it of course is entirely possible for consciousness of each individual Soul to be in some kind or form of 'communion' with its own Source.
This communion or desire to KNOW the very origin of all things, the origin of the Soul itself, is intrinsic to the consciousness of the Soul. This desire to know is not dependent on any external source for that knowing. This desire to know, the actual natural truth of the Creation, can be known by any Soul by way of the Natural Laws that allow it to do so. Those natural laws start with the natural law of the breath. The inhaling and exhaling breaths correlate to the natural laws of cause and effect, thus the natural law of duality. This natural law thus correlates to thought and counter thought, of the ongoing manifestation of phenomenal reality that is rooted in this natural law of cause and effect. Yet, this inhaling and exhaling breath can also be suspended: a state of breathlessness. In this natural state of breathlessness the consciousness of the Soul is thus temporally free for the natural law of duality. In this natural breathless state the consciousness of the Soul expands from within itself that will allow it to perceive the very nature of the manifested Creation by way of all the natural laws that are responsible for it. Consciousness can inwardly expand to the point of being able to perceive the actual manifestation of the manifest and the un-manifest from which that manifests from.
All Souls, by birth right, have this natural capacity: IT IS "˜HARD WIRED' IN THE SOUL BY IT'S CREATOR. And what is perceived in this naturally breathless state is identical to all Souls who are able to arrive at such a state. In essence, a universal truth that is not dependent on any invented cosmology by humans that is agreed upon to be true when, in actual reality, it is not.
These invented cosmologies began when the human organism shifted from nomadic ways of living to settled communalities in which foraging in order to survive was progressively replaced by growing crops and raising animals for clothing and food. The very first 'conception' for what we now call God began exactly at that time. Before then humans lived in accordance with Natural Laws in which their very existence was dependent upon. Their world was one of nature spirits of all sorts that did not have a perceived Source or cause.
The South Node of Neptune being in Aquarius for all humans on the planet today directly correlates with the time in which humans began to live in farming type communities, of when cosmologies were invented to explain the nature of phenomenal reality. The concept of 'God' began that progressively was defined by humans in all kinds of ways that had nothing to do with the ACTUAL Source Of All Things.
So we can see by way of the South Node being in Aquarius how the collective conscious/ unconsciousness from that time until now has affected the individual consciousness of each Soul by way of the various man made religions and cosmologies that have defined 'God' in all the way that it has been. One of the archetypes that Aquarius correlates too is one of PROJECTION. This of course is a reflection of the fact of the Manifest Creation itself is a projection from the Source Of All Things. Thus, the consciousness the Soul projects it's desire for understanding and ultimate meaning upon the phenomenal nature of the Creation.
Such projections are the basis of what philosophies and religions from the East called Maya or illusion: life is nothing but a dream. Relative to the fact that the human life form is a social form of life this then is the determinant of needing a consensus in order to bind the whole together in a state of security which is basis of 'collective agreement' about what 'reality' is and is not. So it then becomes totally possible for the human life form to create a reality based on projections that has nothing to do with actual or ultimate reality.
The bottom line in this is that any invented religion and cosmology that is not NATURALLY TRUE has caused all kinds of traumas, Aquarius, to the collective and individual Souls that has been brought forwards since that time until now. As we all know religion has been one of the primary causes of wars between peoples in which one religion attempts to dominate/ eliminate any other religion that it feels threatened by. And, of course, this is always justified, rationalized, because each religion is the 'right' religion, the 'right' God. Thus we have the whole extermination of people, genocides, terrorism, car bombs, humans sacrifices to the avenging God, 'witch' burnings, torture, etc., etc., in 'the name of God'. And each group, Aquarius, Uranus, the 11th House within the totality of humanity has their own race, or their own version of 'god', of their own religions/ cosmologies, that is USED AGAINT any other group of people or race as a weapon to punish, eliminate, control, or dominate because that version of god and the religion / cosmology that follows that is the RIGHT ONE.
With the North Node of Neptune being in Leo for all Souls we can see how the idea of 'god', the creator, is at the heart of all of Creation: Leo. We can also see how each of these invented religions and gods is the 'right' one, and all others wrong. We can now understand the root of all religions: "God created man in its own image". We can now see how so many Souls use the language of god to justify that which they do: 'In the name of God'. And we can see, because of this, just how illusionary this is, illusions that are considered to be 'real'. We can also see, however, how the core desire in all Souls to know that which has Created them is also true. So the issue then becomes to inwardly KNOW the real and actual nature of what humans call God, and the true Source Of All Things, versus all the invented/projected religions, cosmologies, and 'gods' that have nothing to do with the true nature of the Creator and what It has created. And we can know which Souls actually represent in some way the actual nature of the natural truths, of the Natural Laws, and of the real and Natural Source Of All Things.
So focusing on an individual birth chart we can see where and how the impact/ effect of the collective unconscious any given Soul by way of the placement of the South Node of Neptune by house, with it' ruler, Uranus also by house, sign, and the aspects to it. Inherent to the Aquarius archetype is the desire to individuate from and within all other human beings in general, the very nature of the society that the Soul is born into, and the immediate peer group that it belongs too. Thus, the impact of all of these groups, and the collective unconscious ignite this desire to individuate. The South Node of Neptune by house, the location of its planetary ruler by its own house, sign, and aspects to it correlate how this was done in the lives leading to the current life.
The natal location of the current life Neptune by house, sign, and aspects to it correlate to how the collective unconscious impacts on the individual's Soul consciousness in such a way as to stimulate and ignite the desire to individuate from it, and, in turn, how this will impact on the current state of the collective consciousness.
And the North Node of Neptune by its own house, and the aspects to it, correlate to how the Soul will actualize, give purpose too, and integrate both the current life Neptune relative to its past which is, again, symbolized by the South Node of Neptune.
Hi Rad,
I have a question regarding the "Whispers from Source" of which I hope you will allow me to use a personal example.
About a week ago I decided to do a good turn for an old friend, a promise that I would give her something in the near future. I considered whether my action came from a "whisper" and now I am not so sure.
Since this promise to her, my intuitive promptings of caution/danger are going overboard: and I want to back out of it.
The archetypes and dynamics of Transiting South Node in Neptune; natal Neptune; and South Node of Neptune in Aquarius (conj her South Node, and conj my CHIRON) - our "beliefs" some of which could be delusional/illusionary - are bringing up shocking and traumatic emotional pain for me (from the PAST) and creating a very upsetting Present Moment.
The archetypes and dynamics of Transiting North Node in Virgo; natal Mercury; and North Node of Mercury - the potential evolutionary future - are coming into effect. Her communications with me are extremely out of balance. The effect is I become extremely drained by her incessant talking about herself. I spoke to her about equality and balance, and that Virgo is an archetype of "preparation and grooming" for the social sphere whereby "adjustments, improvements and purifications" are taking place.
Of course, I am willing to take responsibility for 50% of this relationship with her, which means that MY Soul created all of this too.
My question is: Can a "whisper" in fact not be coming from Source, but rather from one's own Soul dynamics - perhaps through evolutionary necessity?
Another question is: How does one discriminate whether a desire to do a "good deed" is coming from Source, or coming from another source?
Thank you,
Linda
Hi Linda,
"My question is: Can a "whisper" in fact not be coming from Source, but rather from one's own Soul dynamics - perhaps through evolutionary necessity?"
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Yes
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"Another question is: How does one discriminate whether a desire to do a "good deed" is coming from Source, or coming from another source?"
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The desire to do a good deed, in and of itself, can either come from within the Soul itself and/ or be 'prompted' by the higher Source we can call the Source Of All Things. Such a desire is never caused by evil or any other negative type of influence.
And, again, the 'whispers' that are caused or influenced by the Source Of All Things typically manifest more than once: repeated over and over.
A key point to remember/ know too is that is such whispers, as in your example, are caused by the Source they will have a 'reason' as in some intended affect that the whispers are meant to have on the recipient of the giving: your long time friend. The value is always in the effort even if the intentions for the giving have not been realized. And, remember too, that a common dynamic for those that do give to others, in general, is for an EXPECTED outcome. The issue of giving, from the Sources point of view, is simply to give for giving sake: without an expected outcome. When an expected outcome is associated or attached to the act of giving then it is really not a 'pure' form of giving that can then lead to disillusionment: Neptune. Once disillusionment occurs relative to the act of giving then this, of itself, can cause all kinds of psychological/ emotional dynamics such a doubting whether the act of 'giving' should have taken place in the first place.
Feel free to ask more about this Linda. And, if you want. post your birth chart with an outer ring of the existing transits taking place when this even took place. Post the chart of your friend as well. If you decide to do this it will help serve as a learning vehicle for us all.
God Bless, Rad
Hi Rad,
I would like to refer back to your last post on Neptune, Pisces ruler and the Nodes of Neptune.
You wrote
"So focusing on an individual birth chart we can see where and how the impact/ effect of the collective unconscious any given Soul by way of the placement of the South Node of Neptune by house, with it' ruler, Uranus also by house, sign, and the aspects to it. Inherent to the Aquarius archetype is the desire to individuate from and within all other human beings in general, the very nature of the society that the Soul is born into, and the immediate peer group that it belongs too. Thus, the impact of all of these groups, and the collective unconscious ignite this desire to individuate. The South Node of Neptune by house, the location of its planetary ruler by its own house, sign, and aspects to it correlate how this was done in the lives leading to the current life.
The natal location of the current life Neptune by house, sign, and aspects to it correlate to how the collective unconscious impacts on the individual's Soul consciousness in such a way as to stimulate and ignite the desire to individuate from it, and, in turn, how this will impact on the current state of the collective consciousness.
And the North Node of Neptune by its own house, and the aspects to it, correlate to how the Soul will actualize, give purpose too, and integrate both the current life Neptune relative to its past which is, again, symbolized by the South Node of Neptune."
Would you mind sharing a chart example of this?
Thanks,
Kristin
Hi Kristin,
Sure, here is an example. This is the same birth chart for JWG but we will put that chart, not him, in the 2nd stage individuated for our example. If you have any questions after this please ask again. God Bless, Rad
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So let's put the South Node of Neptune that is in Aquarius in the 3rd House, it's ruler Uranus in Gemini in the 8th House, the natal Neptune in Libra in the 11th House, and the Leo North Node of Neptune in the 9th with its ruler, the Sun, in Sagittarius in the 2nd House. The evolutionary stage will be 2nd Individuated.
Here we can see that this Soul has been progressively rebelling against all the ideas, and the opinions they generate, of the collective consciousness/ unconscious in order to individuate itself by way of desiring to know that which can actually be known by way of various ways of personal investigation: this is the relationship between the 3rd and the 8th House in our example.
The desire of the Soul has been to orientate to knowledge that can be proven by way of these personal investigations: 8th House. Coming into the current life with the Neptune in the 11th House, in this evolutionary context, the Soul is inwardly feeling like an outsider relative to the social milieu, and it's various groupings of people within the total context of humanity itself. It feels itself to be an outsider because of all the ideas/ opinions that most consider or cherish to be true. From the inner perch of being an outsider the Soul is then observing how whole groupings of people are organized relative to what and how they think. The ongoing effect of the collective unconscious / consciousness continues to be used by this Soul by way of rebelling against any ideas/ opinions that cannot be directly provable by way of personal investigations.
This Soul will only form relationships, Neptune in Libra, within the context of the country that it is born into to others who also feel radically different than the consensus, others who are standing on the outskirts of society, others who question everything, others who demand some kind of proof of what is actually real versus that which is simply beliefs that are considered to be real.
With the North Node of Neptune in the 9th House, and ruled by a Sagittarius Sun in the 2nd, the Soul is beginning to desire to understand, just beginning because of the 2nd stage individuated, the Natural Laws that are responsible for Creation itself. Within these symbols the Soul will progressively be shifting it's consciousness from a left brain orientation to phenomenal reality to the right brain. From the liner to the nonlinear. In essence to begin the process of conceptual understanding of the whole versus a linear approach that builds the whole in that way.
In this way the Soul is evolving from a consciousness of total rebellion of all ideas, this is not real, this is bullshit, this a lie, and so on to a consciousness that is just beginning to replace that existing orientation to one wherein is desires to know that which can actually be known via proof relative to an understanding to the conceptual whole of Creation by way of the Natural Laws that are the very structure of that Creation.
This evolution of the Soul's consciousness is thus changing its own inner relationship to itself: the Sagittarius Sun in the 2nd House. In so changing its inner relationship to itself it is simultaneously changing its own inner magnetism, its own inner vibration that in turn will change the Soul's relationships to others in general, those in its life specifically, and, finally, to the Soul's relationship with the collective itself: the world in which it lives.
As the Soul evolves in this way it will, as a next evolutionary step, desire to help others understand that which itself has come to understand about the nature of what is true, and what is not, what is real, and what is not. This will at first manifest in very limited ways by way of it's personal relationships that will finally evolve into being able to actualize sociological roles, Neptune in the 11th House, the evolution of the South Node of Neptune being in Aquarius, in which the Soul, by way of those roles, will progressively help increasing numbers of people to understand that actual truths of themselves, the truths humans beings, of how and why societies form and organize in the ways that they do.
Relative to the evolutionary stage of development as the Soul begins to move into the 3rd individuated the Soul will naturally desire to be able to 'teach' this in one way or another: the North Node of Neptune in the 9th relative to its ruler the Sun being in Sagittarius. The vehicle of teaching will thus serve the Soul's desire and need to progressively reintegrate itself into the world in general, and it's country of origin specifically. In this way that which the Soul teaches will impact on the very nature of the collective consciousness. Tying this together with another archetype that we have discussed in our thread this Soul could be receiving, and thus inwardly hearing, the 'whispers' for what we call God this is encouraging the Soul to do just that.
Much more could be said relative to these symbols, i.e. a series of prior lifetimes in which the Soul itself has been attacked and persecuted for its own individual / unique ideas that challenged the existing consensus and thus their security, others who have been attacked or punished in some way for the same reasons, but I am trying to purposefully keep it simple so that, hopefully, we can all understand how to apply the archetypes of what we have been discussing in our last segment. If it doesn't, or you or others need another example, or have questions about the example used here, just ask.
Hi Rad,
Thank you! This was an excellent example, very helpful and clear.
It was a great exercise to work through this chart from a 2nd individuated into the 3rd individuated as the Soul evolves in this context. The example too of re-integrating into the world through the vehicle of teaching, North Node of Neptune in Leo conjunct the Pluto/Saturn in the 9th, as a result of what the Soul had learned for himself, and what had been proven to him.
I also noticed Uranus, the ruler of his SN Neptune Aquarius, is retrograde, as well as his North Node of Neptune in Leo in the 9th. Also, Pluto and Saturn of course are retrograde, re-stating the rebellion, and the feeling of alienation, to the point of not being able to relate to most humans on this planet at all.
Yet this pronounced emphasis of being wired to teach, giving the Soul a sense of meaning, ruler of the North Node of Neptune in Leo in the 9th, is the Sun in Sag the 2nd, to teach what most may feel is radical, yet this Soul is designed to open people's minds, to expand their reach of understanding, essentially to wake people up to what is true, via a system that can prove such things, versus allowing delusion of , ie. most religions etc, to be perpetuated.
Thanks again Rad,
Kristin
All,
We should take notice that an historic agreement has been reached in Paris, France concerning global warming. It is truly a remarkable achievement where over 200 countries have agreed to it. I have posted extensive articles on this in our climate and environment thread. This has occurred just as the Lunar Nodal axis has shifted into Pisces/Virgo. The underlying issue is of course trying to do all we can, as a species, to try to heal our wounded planet, Nature, and of course our atmosphere. Atmospheres correlate specifically to Uranus, Aquarius, and the 11th House. Thus, with our collective S.Node of Neptune in Aquarius we can easily see the 'trauma' that has been created in our atmosphere because of the incredible degree of pollution that the human species has put into it. The N.Node of Neptune in Leo of course demands that humans take charge of the trauma that it has created, and is responsible for. This agreement symbolizes and reflects just that.
The transiting N.Node being in Virgo of course correlates to the existing crisis that is at hand relative to our atmosphere. The leading edge of crisis is that which is of course the trigger for the transiting S.Node in Pisces to attempt to try to do something in order to heal or resolve this crisis to the extent possible. The transit of Neptune now in Pisces demands that we do just that. The Neptune transit is progressively squaring our collective S.Node of Uranus, atmosphere, in Sagittarius, and it's N.Node in Gemini.
I am posting an article that reflects the underlying issues for our species that this agreement reflects. Notice the language being used in it which is perfectly Pisces / Virgo language. I am also posting the chart for when this agreement was reached. I am not certain of the exact time, but the time I am using I think is very close to when the gavel was put down marking when the passage of this agreement.
Feel free to comment as you will on any of this.
God Bless
Rad
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The Paris Climate Agreement Is One Huge Step For Mankind
The accord shows humans can transcend narrow national interests.
Jo Confino Executive Editor, Impact & Innovation, The Huffington Post
12/12/2015 02:05 pm ET | Updated 16 hours ago
Matt Dunham/ASSOCIATED PRESS
Humanity has passed a vital test.
The significance of nearly 200 countries coming together to agree on a historic deal to limit catastrophic climate change shows that countries can go beyond their narrow national interests when the future of civilization is at stake.
It is fitting that the agreement was reached in Paris, which just a month ago was victim of a terrible terrorist atrocity.
In these two events we see a perfect representation of our duality and the choices that humanity faces in the decades to come.
We are essentially at a crossroads. One path is to fall prey to righteousness and extremism, which sees people retreating into a place of fear and anger, which in turn leads to escalating violence and the scapegoating of communities. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump falling into the Islamic State's trap by calling for the banning of all Muslims entering the United States is a perfect example of this escalation of hostilities.
The other path humanity can take is for people to recognize that what unites us is far greater than what separates us.
France's Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius, announcing the final draft of the climate agreement on Saturday, talked of how someone had "the other day reminded us of Nelson Mandela's sentence: it always seems impossible until it's done. I wish to add some other words to that, words spoken by the same hero: None of us acting alone can be successful. Success is built collectively."
Christiana Figueres, who has masterfully supervised the climate talks in her role as head of the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change, says this is a time in our history where it is more important than ever to respect our differences and work collaboratively.
She told me recently that the climate talks should not be seen in isolation but as a gateway to creating a new global governance structure to deal with the many challenges we face. She sees this almost as a spiritual journey that requires us all to expand of our awareness and consciousness of what it means to be a citizen of planet Earth.
She has spent enormous efforts bringing the world's religions together to support a climate deal, in part because she recognizes there is a common thread in all spiritual traditions; a recognition of the inter-dependence of all life.
This essentially means that individuals, communities and nations must look beyond their own particular needs and recognize that true prosperity can come only from everyone winning.
We are already seeing the results of what the opposite path could look like. The Syrian civil war was preceded by what experts say was the worst drought in more than 800 years, and we have already seen how the crisis is leading to countries' fear of being swamped by refugees.
But these numbers would be dwarfed if climate change went unchecked. Noted climate economist Nicholas Stern told me that "hundreds of millions of people, perhaps billions of people would have to move. If we've learned anything from history that means severe and extended conflict."
"We couldn't just turn it off," he said. "You can't make a peace treaty with the planet, you can't negotiate with the laws of physics. You're in there, you're stuck. Those are the stakes we're playing for."
A failure to work together would cause dislocation across all areas of society. Referring to climate change, Paul Polman, the CEO of global consumer goods giant Unilever, repeatedly states that business cannot prosper in a failing society.
What makes the climate agreement particularly significant is the increasing recognition that our lives are intimately connected to nature and that, far from being all-powerful, humanity is intensely vulnerable to any changes in the balance of the environment.
We are already seeing that with less than a 1-degree rise in global temperatures, extreme weather has the power to devastate communities and to hamper the ability to grow enough food to feed a growing global population.
The Vietnamese Zen master Thich Nhat Hanh, who has hundreds of thousands of followers around the world and has been a strong advocate for climate action for decades, once told me that "fear, separation, hate and anger come from the wrong view that you and the earth are two separate entities, the Earth is only the environment. You are in the centre and you want to do something for the Earth in order for you to survive. That is a dualistic way of seeing."
When we act with generosity and passion, humanity is able to produce extraordinary feats. The climate agreement represents a common purpose in which every person on the planet can participate.
As the eco-philospher Joanna Macy, with her co-author Chris Johnstone, pointed out in her book Active Hope: "When we become aware of an emergency and rise to the occasion, something powerful gets switched on inside us. We activate our sense of purpose and discover strengths we didn't even know we had. Being able to make a difference is powerfully enlivening; it makes our lives feel more worthwhile.
"Seeing ourselves as separate entities, rather than as connected parts of a larger whole, reduces the search for purpose to a preoccupation with how well our self is doing compared with others. As a result, the unhealthy obsession with appearance and status known as "˜affluenza' has become a major contributor to emotional distress.
"To promote the recovery of our world and the healing of our communities, while also living lives that are rich and satisfying, we need to embody a larger story of who and what we are."
The Paris climate agreement is not the end of the story, as now begins the hard work to ensure that it is transformed into meaningful action.
There are many who will see the agreement as not going as far enough as they had hoped. But stepping back a moment brings to mind Neil Armstrong's most famous line, spoken after becoming the first person to set foot on the moon: "That's one small step for [a] man, one giant leap for mankind."
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And this from Al Gore who, more than almost anyone, brought the awareness to our collective consciousness, Neptune, this issue of Global Warming.
Al Gore Chairman, Generation Investment Management and The Climate Reality Project
Speaking with One Voice to Solve the Climate Crisis
Posted: 12/12/2015 3:00 pm EST Updated: 12/12/2015 4:59 pm EST
PARIS CLIMATE
Today, the nations of the world concluded a bold and historic agreement, clearly demonstrating that the global community is speaking with one voice to solve the climate crisis. Years from now, our grandchildren will reflect on humanity's moral courage to solve the climate crisis and they will look to December 12, 2015, as the day when the community of nations finally made the decision to act.
This universal and ambitious agreement sends a clear signal to governments, businesses, and investors everywhere: the transformation of our global economy from one fueled by dirty energy to one fueled by sustainable economic growth is now firmly and inevitably underway.
The components of this agreement -- including a strong review mechanism to enhance existing commitments and a long-term goal to eliminate global-warming pollution this century -- are essential to unlocking the necessary investments in our future. No agreement is perfect, and this one must be strengthened over time, but groups across every sector of society will now begin to reduce dangerous carbon pollution through the framework of this agreement.
The Paris agreement represents the ceaseless efforts of civil society, governments, business, and investors, all of whom have dedicated themselves to this cause. Most of all, thanks are due to the French government led by President Hollande and Minister Fabius, and the United Nations, led by Secretary General Ban Ki-moon and Christiana Figueres and her team at the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change.
Hi Rad,
Is JWG a Daemon Soul?
And relative to the transiting Nodes, in his case, at the time of the dream, he had Venus conjunct Mars in the Seventh House in Taurus and Venus/Mars ruled the transiting Lunar nodes at that time.
Do those symbols correlate with the fact that he initiated a new cycle, in which he would need to relate to others much more than in the past, since he was so focused on his own inner contemplation and would now need to relate more to others in order to actualize the evolutionary needs as symbolized by his own North Node in the Seventh House? And would it also correlate to him having new found resources to better survive by generating income thru EA?
Thank you
All the best
Hi Skywalker,
"Is JWG a Daemon Soul?"
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"And relative to the transiting Nodes, in his case, at the time of the dream, he had Venus conjunct Mars in the Seventh House in Taurus and Venus/Mars ruled the transiting Lunar nodes at that time.
Do those symbols correlate with the fact that he initiated a new cycle, in which he would need to relate to others much more than in the past, since he was so focused on his own inner contemplation and would now need to relate more to others in order to actualize the evolutionary needs as symbolized by his own North Node in the Seventh House? "
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"And would it also correlate to him having new found resources to better survive by generating income thru EA?"
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It was not so much as finding new resources to better survive as it was an expansion upon the inherent resources that already existed within his Soul. Inherent resources to make a living correlate with the 2nd House, Taurus, and the inner side of Venus. Thus, the transiting Mars and Venus were in Taurus that referred back to his natal Mars in Sagittarius in the 2nd House. So, other words, once the EA that came through him via Yukestwar, this set in motion an incredible increase in his clientele, his teaching workload, and all the travels that began relative to him teaching EA, and astrology in general from an EA point of view, around the world. This of course included all the books that he wrote that generated it's own income. His typical work week in the 1980's, for example, was seeing 8 clients a day, five days a week, teaching three nights, doing a monthly workshop locally, and traveling once a month to somewhere in the world to lecture which included typically seeing about 30 clients at each place that he would go.
God Bless, Rad
Quote from: Rad on Dec 11, 2015, 04:35 AM
Hi Linda,
"My question is: Can a "whisper" in fact not be coming from Source, but rather from one's own Soul dynamics - perhaps through evolutionary necessity?"
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"Another question is: How does one discriminate whether a desire to do a "good deed" is coming from Source, or coming from another source?"
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The desire to do a good deed, in and of itself, can either come from within the Soul itself and/ or be 'prompted' by the higher Source we can call the Source Of All Things. Such a desire is never caused by evil or any other negative type of influence.
And, again, the 'whispers' that are caused or influenced by the Source Of All Things typically manifest more than once: repeated over and over.
A key point to remember/ know too is that is such whispers, as in your example, are caused by the Source they will have a 'reason' as in some intended affect that the whispers are meant to have on the recipient of the giving: your long time friend. The value is always in the effort even if the intentions for the giving have not been realized. And, remember too, that a common dynamic for those that do give to others, in general, is for an EXPECTED outcome. The issue of giving, from the Sources point of view, is simply to give for giving sake: without an expected outcome. When an expected outcome is associated or attached to the act of giving then it is really not a 'pure' form of giving that can then lead to disillusionment: Neptune. Once disillusionment occurs relative to the act of giving then this, of itself, can cause all kinds of psychological/ emotional dynamics such a doubting whether the act of 'giving' should have taken place in the first place.
Feel free to ask more about this Linda. And, if you want. post your birth chart with an outer ring of the existing transits taking place when this even took place. Post the chart of your friend as well. If you decide to do this it will help serve as a learning vehicle for us all.
God Bless, Rad
Hi Rad,
Thank you for the invitation to post further questions. I cannot post her chart as I do not have her permission.
Since reading your response, I have pondered deeply upon these issues. It is striking how much clarity one can have when they are aware of the archetypes and dynamics of the Transiting Lunar Nodes!
Btw, my friend and I are both in the 1st stage Spiritual evolutionary condition, therefore these questions are rich in meaning for us right now.
QuoteRad's quote: A key point to remember/ know too is that if such whispers, as in your example, are caused by the Source they will have a 'reason' as in some intended effect that the whispers are meant to have on the recipient of the giving: your long time friend.
Q. Is the intended effect to do with my and my friend's evolutionary intentions and lessons? That is, for both the giver and the receiver?
QuoteRad's quote: When an expected outcome is associated or attached to the act of giving then it is really not a 'pure' form of giving that can then lead to disillusionment: Neptune.
This has been a profound realization. I discovered that where this conditioning pattern began could be revealed by looking at the South Node of Neptune in Aquarius, wherever it is in the chart. For me, it is found in the 4th house exactly conjunct my Chiron.
Obviously I have been wounded - and have wounded others - because of the "belief" that I must always give to a friend with whom I am emotionally involved or attached. If I learn to give in the Now Moment, give to others in response to a repeating "whisper" from Source, and not expect any return in the future, then it is a form of pure giving, as you have taught.
Q. Could you please talk about the desire to do good for others becoming automatic or dogmatic within the Soul? Could the origins of this belief be in religion? Or is it more natural?
Q. I have noticed the desire to do good in people of all evolutionary conditions. How can one distinguish religious do-gooders from those who are inspired to naturally do good? Is there a different between distorted and undistorted giving?
Q. Have all Souls presently living had past lives in the Age of Pisces and its Virgo sub-age?
Q. On the geodetic world map, the Pisces zone covers UK, west Africa and Spain, while the Virgo zone covers East Australia (where I live). With the Transiting Lunar Nodes, is there some special impact upon the people living in these zones?
Q. When others are giving to me from the "belief" that they need to repay me because of something I had given to them in the past, what is the best attitude to have? Reject the gift? Accept the gift? Say something?
Q. With Neptune on the Ascendant, my body is very sensitive to loud noise right now. What does "noise" correlate to, and what is the deeper meaning for its impact upon the body?
Thanks for this very enlightening and interesting discussion.
Linda
Hi Linda,
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Rad's quote: A key point to remember/ know too is that if such whispers, as in your example, are caused by the Source they will have a 'reason' as in some intended effect that the whispers are meant to have on the recipient of the giving: your long time friend.
Q. Is the intended effect to do with my and my friend's evolutionary intentions and lessons? That is, for both the giver and the receiver?
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Rad's quote: When an expected outcome is associated or attached to the act of giving then it is really not a 'pure' form of giving that can then lead to disillusionment: Neptune.
This has been a profound realization. I discovered that where this conditioning pattern began could be revealed by looking at the South Node of Neptune in Aquarius, wherever it is in the chart. For me, it is found in the 4th house exactly conjunct my Chiron.
Obviously I have been wounded - and have wounded others - because of the "belief" that I must always give to a friend with whom I am emotionally involved or attached. If I learn to give in the Now Moment, give to others in response to a repeating "whisper" from Source, and not expect any return in the future, then it is a form of pure giving, as you have taught.
Q. Could you please talk about the desire to do good for others becoming automatic or dogmatic within the Soul? Could the origins of this belief be in religion? Or is it more natural?
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It can be both. Giving, of itself, is natural, intrinsic to the Natural Laws set in motion at the moment of the Manifest Creation. The natural principle/ law of giving, sharing, and inclusion is intrinsic to consciousness. The invented religions of humans have of course turned this natural law into various types of dogmas that pervert this natural law. For example, in natural law, it is essential to know and understand that when an act of giving can manifest as the appearance of withholding giving where that appearance is an actual act of giving. Why ? Because there are situations where the act of giving will actually create a reality in which the one receiving the giving sustains whatever the existing dynamics are within them that is in fact preventing necessary growth, or preventing something that must occur or be realized that will allow for a necessary growth or evolution to take place.
Religions that create this dogma of giving this create a dynamic for those believing is that religion in which, when they don't 'give', they are then made to feel guilty.
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Q. I have noticed the desire to do good in people of all evolutionary conditions. How can one distinguish religious do-gooders from those who are inspired to naturally do good? Is there a different between distorted and undistorted giving?
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Yes, as just explained. Simple observation of any given individual, in the act of giving, should allow for an understanding of where anyone is 'coming from' in the act of giving.
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Q. Have all Souls presently living had past lives in the Age of Pisces and its Virgo sub-age?
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Q. On the geodetic world map, the Pisces zone covers UK, west Africa and Spain, while the Virgo zone covers East Australia (where I live). With the Transiting Lunar Nodes, is there some special impact upon the people living in these zones?
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The affects of global warming that is causing a rise in the sea levels around the world that is directly affecting many of the islands in the Pacific ocean, the melting of Greenland and the North/South Polls, glaciers, that then puts more fresh water into the sea that, in the end, affects the core circulation patterns of the ocean that are the determinants of weather itself on our Earth, the change of the sea temperatures, the chemistry of the seas themselves, the releasing of methane into the atmosphere due the the warming of the seas and the melting of the permafrost, the ability of the sea to absorb carbon, the bleaching of the coral reefs, the affects upon all forms of sea life which then affects other forms of life, the accelerated mutation of viruses, bacteria, fungus, parasites and the affect this has on all forms of life which then interacts and affects the immune systems within all forms of life which could lead, while the transit of the Lunar Nodes are in Pisces/ Virgo to a mutated virus or bacteria that creates a global pandemic/ crisis, and for Australia, specifically, the increasing crisis of the fact and crisis of climate change throughout the entire continent which various economic policies, coal mining for example, contribute too.
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Q. When others are giving to me from the "belief" that they need to repay me because of something I had given to them in the past, what is the best attitude to have? Reject the gift? Accept the gift? Say something?
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It depends on each person, each situation. If you intuitively feel that the one giving to you is in fact doing so that is 'balancing the scale', so to speak, then allow yourself to receive such giving. If you intuitively feel that they are doing so simply because of some inner delusion on their part manifesting as such a belief, then to either simply decline without comment, or to decline with some relevant comment that allows the person to see/ understand the nature of their own delusion, and the reasons for it.
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Q. With Neptune on the Ascendant, my body is very sensitive to loud noise right now. What does "noise" correlate to, and what is the deeper meaning for its impact upon the body?
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Noise or sound correlate with Uranus, Aquarius, and the 11th House: sound was set in motion at the moment of the Manifest Creation. Sound is a function of motion where various forms within the Creation interact through motion. It is the interaction that produces the sound or noise: friction. Sound/ noise interacts with the nervous system within the body that then affects the entire physiology of the organism/ body itself including the brain. And, remember, the entire nervous system and the brain, in general, correlates with Uranus, Aquarius, the 11th House, Virgo, Mercury, the 6th House, Gemini, and the 3rd House.
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God Bless, Rad
Thanks so much, Rad.
The answers you have provided have
clarified so much for me.
Linda
All,
We can now discuss another core archetype that correlates with Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House that can be called the 'god complex'. If you have any questions of me after reading and thinking about this please ask.
God Bless, Rad
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NEPTUNE AND THE GOD COMPLEX
One of the archetypes of Neptune correlates to what we can call the 'god complex' wherein the egocentric structure of the Soul can inflate itself, like blowing air into a balloon, to the point of given itself delusions of egocentric grandeur wherein it convinces itself that is has a 'mission' from on high to bring to the world at large in general, and specific communities of people specifically. This is what the German philosopher Nietzsche called 'Zarathustra's" or super-humans.
These Souls thus consider themselves as above and beyond most other humans who are, through implication, inferior to their inner delusions of being superior. These types will then construct and inner language within themselves, delusional, in which they convince themselves that they have some ultimate or superior mission to accomplish that is to benefit the whole in general, and their specific communities of people in which have focused their personal MISSION FROM ON HIGH upon. These communities of people can be anything: the world of art, music, politics, astrology, technologies of all kinds, and so on. And, again, these types of Souls create a language within themselves that reflects these delusions of grandeur, the god complex. Such language can be things like 'I am a being of light' who desires to be in in communion with other 'beings of light', or "God has told me to do the following', 'my authority comes from God", and so on.
Of course human history is full of these types in all fields of endeavor. Insane asylums house Souls who have convinced them self that they are God or variations of God. And these types of Souls all too often use God as their ultimate rational for doing what they do: from the serial killer, political figures, religious figures, to all kinds of unseen humans in their ordinary lives. In other words in worlds large and small the egos of these types of Souls can operate in this way. And when they are confronted by anyone who does not agree with their egocentric delusions of grandeur by way of the god complex they will try to attack and destroy. They all too often create the psychology as a result of the god complex of being a victim to forces of 'persecution' who they convince themselves of are trying to destroy whatever their delusional mission from God is about. All too often they then delude themselves into thinking that 'no one understands me'. When they feel victimized in this way they will then, all too often, resort to creating imaginary realities that are projected onto those forces or others who they judged as to be undermining their god complex, their mission from on high.
Such Souls all too often have a deep inner sense of powerlessness, of being 'nothing', of an inner existential void, of inferiority that then compensates for this by way of blowing into the ego balloon these delusions of egocentric grandeur. In turn this then manifests as a deep Soul desire to be recognized for just how wonderful and special they are.
In lesser degrees any Soul can become intoxicated with itself after some degree of external recognition for something that it has done. The musician who is suddenly famous, the artist, the writer, the actor, the banker, etc., etc. that can then lead to ego inflation's. In so doing they then become superior to others. This is a natural 'temptation' that can occur to a Soul and the ego it creates where temptation as an archetype is Scorpio, 8th house, and Pluto which form a natural trine to Pisces, the 12th House, and Neptune. When this happens such a Soul and it's ego will, at some point, create the necessary crisis that has the intended effect of humiliating the ego to remind the Soul that God is the origin of all things: not the Soul and it's pathetic ego.
This temptation of the Soul to glorify itself through its egocentric structure is further symbolized With the North Node of Neptune being in Leo for all Souls on Earth. One of the core archetypes of Leo is to creatively actualize and give purpose to the current life of the Soul. It is ruled by the Sun which of course is the center of our solar system. So we can then symbolically see that the temptation of the Soul to glorify itself, to consider itself special, to have some degree of the god complex is reflected in this North Node of Neptune being in Leo. The Soul and it's ego then considers itself to be the center of all things in which the rest of life is nothing more than props in it's personal play: life. Props to be used for its own purposes which are rooted in the god complex in some way. Thus, to become some kind of icon in its own way. Such Souls have forgotten that our solar system, and the galaxy that is is within, is of course only a tiny part of the totality of the entire Universe: the South Node of Neptune being in Aquarius for us all.
A Soul that is truly God inspired, who is in alignment with the inner godhead, will never desire to draw attention to itself, it's ego. Such a Soul will always deflect any kind of acclaim: back to God and/ or others who may have helped in whatever it is that has drawn attention to the Soul/ ego for what it has done. Such Souls manifest a sincere and real humility because they are inwardly defined by much larger wholes than them self, wholes in which they are only one part. Not THE part, but one part. One of the stories I remember about JWG is that so many people wanted to project some kind of 'guru' status upon him wherever he went or was. One of the things he would do in order to stop this was to smoke cigarettes. When he would deliberately light up a cigarette in front of such people he said you could literally see these projections become instantly deflated which, he confided, he took some degree of actual glee in.
As he often said Souls that actually 'have it' don't want it or even realize that which they have, and Soul's that don't have it want it in such a way as wanting to put neon lights around their names: the god-complex. Egocentric delusions of grandeur.
Beyond the individual this god complex can manifest in whole groupings of people, communities, as well as whole countries where such countries or communities hold some kind of conception of 'God' that is the ONLY CORRECT conception of God. When this is then linked to the human Soul's need to feel secure where security is a function of self-consistency we can now understand how 'God' has been used to purposefully destroy other humans, other communities, as well as whole countries. And this is done, always, IN THE NAME OF GOD. 'God' now becomes a WEAPON OF DESTRUCTION. We will go into this further later on in this thread.
For now we will focus on the individual Soul. When this archetype of Neptune, the god complex, is activated it will manifest through the house and sign of the natal Neptune, and the aspects that it is making to other planets. In the past, prior lives, it can be seen through the South Node of Neptune by house and sign locality, and the placement of its planetary ruler by its own house and sign, and the aspects that it is making to other planets. When this archetype is active the North Node of Neptune by house, sign, and the location of its planetary ruler will correlate to the future directions of this god complex that are integrated and given purpose in the context of the current life.
With the transiting Lunar South Node now being in Pisces, which ignites this natal structure within the birth chart, the actual house that that transiting S.Node of the Moon is in can now be a potential vehicle through which the "˜god complex' can manifest. With the transiting North Lunar Node being in Virgo it is essential for the Soul to remember / know the difference between being "˜directed' from on high to do this or that, the "˜whispers' from God that we discussed earlier, versus creating some inner delusion of personal grandeur through which they inwardly identify themselves as a defacto god: the god complex. If they don't then they will create crisis for themselves and others where the function and reason for creating those crises is to pop this inner delusional balloon that leads to actual reality. Such crisis created by the Soul when operating as some kind of defacto god, the god complex, typically will manifest as creating circumferences that lead to varying degrees of humiliation. Until the Soul understands why it is creating such circumstances it will all to often use this humiliating circumstances as "˜proof' of how they are being unjustly persecuted and attacked, of creating some kind of rationalization that effectively avoids understanding the reality they have created as defined by the "˜god complex', so that they can sustain the delusion itself.
The house that the transiting Lunar North Node in Virgo is in, combined with the natal house/ sign/ aspects of the natal Mercury, and the location by it's own house, sign, and aspects to the N.Node of Mercury will correlate to the nature of the types of crisis that the Soul can create in order to realign itself with actual reality.
Hi Rad,
I logged on to research my natal Plutos polarity point .. but this conversation has intrigued me. I look forward to diving in this weekend .. surely will be posting some questions. Many thanks! Aimee
Hi, I'm not sure how to post a question using a quote. :) But my question is: how do I find the S. Node of Mars and the S. Node of Venus? And then of course, of Neptune and Mercury. On page 2 of this subject you suggested we write down "everything" on a sheet of paper to really "know this and feel it." I'm liking this. A lot. But stuck ... didn't realize there are more nodes than just the moon. (Yes, I am a novice .. but able to follow). Fascinating and helpful post/thread, Rad. Many thanks!
Hi ahanson,
If you have the Solar Fire astrological chart calculation software the planetary nodes can be calculated in it. If you don't you can go to this website http://www.true-node.com/eph1/?inputNumber=flora&day=28&month=9&year=2015&time=00%3A00%3A00&zone=GMT+0&interval_num=1&interval=day&lines=31&calendar=Gregorian&zodiac=Tropical&origin=Geocentric&lighttime=Apparent&clock=Universal+Time&zodsec=D%B0M&longitude=on&nnode=on&snode=on&.submit=Get+Ephemeris ......
God Bless, Rad
Hi All,
I'm new to the forum and evolutionary astrology, to which i've been led to since last year.
Right when scorpio became my solar return ascendant i've found JWG's work, the pluto books and evolutionary astrology, with deep thankfulness.
On your recent quote on the planetary nodes, and applying the steps, i came across some questions that hopefully you might help clarify.
In the case of SN aries in the 7/8th house cusp, conjunct venus and chiron, also, conjunct chiron SN, venus NN and Mars NN, all in aries last degrees, 8th house, when you combine pluto in libra in the 1st house, NN libra 1st/2nd house cusp, nodal axis exactly square moon in Capricorn 4th house (skipped steps), and applying EA chart interpretation:
Is there a polarity point of pluto (pluto 13º libra NN24º libra)?
An i understand, the NN libra being the resolution node, with venus (NN ruler) conjunct SN of the moon, NN venus and NN mars, is the soul prevented from actually going forward in this life? Or does the soul evolve by creating new ways to relive the past that become the future, again? the future being this or another life? And also, chiron here meaning forever perpetuating a wound, or otherwise an opportunity of healing deep wounds for a new phase to begin? (virgo asc)
Adding that moon is conjunct pluto SN, jupiter SN and saturn SN, mars in aquarius is conjunct mercury SN, and venus SN is conjunct Neptune SN (aquarius 5th house), mars SN sagittarius conjunct IC and galactic center, can this mean that a long past is deeply ingrained in the soul? (sun in pisces)
Could you help clarify what could be the evolutionary intention in this signature?
Thank you all,
Helena
Hi Helena,
Welcome to the EA message board. We don't look at personal charts here, but can answer some of your general questions. All of these answers are drawn from Rad's quotes in the EA Glossary:
When the North Node is 10 degrees apart from Pluto, or closer, there is no polarity point for Pluto in this case.
When the Ruler of the North Node is conjunct the South Node, the intention of recovering the skipped steps has just preceded the current life being lived. That means that the Soul has created, just before the current life, circumstances that serve to trigger old dynamics, these dynamics having previously kept the Soul bound to its past. The intention in this life is to make new choices, shown by the house and sign of the North Node, in the face of those circumstances (when they appear again in this life) that trigger the old, past, dynamics. If this is accomplished then the Soul will resolve the skipped steps.
Rad, is it correct . . .
that the NN Venus and NN Mars conjunct the South Node of the Moon, would in fact INTENSIFY the Soul's resistance to making the necessary choices that would allow it to continue to evolve. The houses in which the South Node of Venus, and natal Venus occupy correlate to the dynamics within the Soul that are causing this resistance. Further, the location of the planet Mars by its own house and sign, and aspects to it, will add to what those dynamics have been?
In this way, the Soul does evolve by creating NEW choices for the future to unfold, in the current life, and in future lives to come (North Node and the Pluto polarity point). These dynamics would have to be developed in a NEW way.
In regard to a natal planet conjunct the collective Nodes (eg Venus conjunct SN Chiron in Aries), all Souls have their unique evolutionary and karmic history that leads the Soul into each life. The collective Nodes all correlate to specific Astrological Ages and sub-ages in which all of us either have lived in those times and/or our consciousness is drawing from those times: the collective consciousness/unconsciousness. When natal planets conjunct those collective Nodes it means that the nature of those Astrological Ages and their sub-ages have been directly experienced by the Soul and is thus conditioning the Soul's consciousness in the current life.
The South Nodes of Pluto, Jupiter, and Saturn are in Capricorn for all of us. The North Nodes of Pluto, Jupiter, and Saturn are in Cancer for all of us. Historically speaking, the South Nodes of these planets are in Capricorn, and that is the time frame in which the transition between the Matriarchy and the Patriarchy occurred. All Souls on Earth as a result are linked to that time whether they actually lived at that time or not. It is the COLLECTIVE MEMORY of that time that all Souls will draw upon as reflected in the current life they are living.
So too with the South Node of Uranus which will be in Sagittarius for all of us, its North Node in Gemini. And the South Node of Neptune is in Aquarius for all of us, and its North Node in Leo. The North Nodes of all of these planets thus correlate to all peoples living on the planet now. They correlate to the evolutionary intentions for the entire species as that species, human beings, continue to evolve as a species. And, of course, the ongoing evolutionary intentions and necessities of the species can only be understood in direct relationship of the past of that species: the South Nodes.
Mars, Mercury, and Venus and their Nodes move through the signs much more quickly that the outer planets do. And these planets all correlate to that which is highly personal and unique to each Soul, its own individual reality that exists within the context of living with all the other humans that are living at the same time. The same principles of the past leading to the moment, and how that moment moves to the future, apply in these Nodes as well of course. The natal sign of these planets is that which is the constant, that which integrates the dynamic tension between the past and the future that is experienced in each moment. This then allows for an evolution to take place within the natal sign and house of these planets.
Hope the above helps,
Linda
Thank you, Linda, your answer has been very helpful.
I understand the message board is for general questions, so i really appreciate your reply and i'l try to keep this post as general as possible.
From your answer, understanding that there is no polarity of pluto when pluto is near the north node (even slightly more than 10 degrees) as made a big change in my perspective.
I went back to the pluto books, pluto conjunct north node, the glossary, and all shed a new light on the whole evolutionary purpose. Specially the need to find a clear focus to start looking at a chart with a paradoxical signature, reinforced by not only the planets but also the collective planetary nodes and their location.
So, when you mention the planetary nodes of mars, mercury and venus, in that
"The natal sign of these planets is that which is the constant, that which integrates the dynamic tension between the past and the future that is experienced in each moment. This then allows for an evolution to take place within the natal sign and house of these planets"
Is it correct to say that in this case, natal mars in aquarius, being the ruler of the all those nodes in aries, also being in sextile and trine, non stressful aspects, to the south and north nodes of the moon, the planet mars could be the one in condition to help the evolution to proceed in the actual houses of the nodal axis, by way of mars/aquarius archetypes (past)? And if there are more planets in non stressful condition to the south node, can also help facilitating this process?
In that case the question that i still come to is, if you can answer, is in evolving from past to future, when simultaneously the south node of moon conjuncts the collective north node of mars, venus and the planet venus, ruler of the current north node of the moon, the movement of going forward seems do lead exactly to where it was in the first place, like in a loop, again with skipped steps?
Or, if the necessary steps actually are taken, is it possible to say that the evolutionary intention can be to relive the archetypes (aries, libra) going from a situation of distortion/supression (moon cap square nodes and venus) to one of a new (aries) natural way of expression of the same archetypes, not conflicting within the soul?
Thank you again,
Helena
Quote from: Helena on Jan 03, 2016, 02:17 PM
From your answer, understanding that there is no polarity of pluto when pluto is near the north node (even slightly more than 10 degrees) as made a big change in my perspective.
The 10 deg orb for North Node conjunct Pluto means no Pluto polarity point.
Since your Pluto is 13º Libra and North Node 24º Libra, there is a Pluto polarity point in your case.
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So, when you mention the planetary nodes of mars, mercury and venus, in that
"The natal sign of these planets is that which is the constant, that which integrates the dynamic tension between the past and the future that is experienced in each moment. This then allows for an evolution to take place within the natal sign and house of these planets"
Is it correct to say that in this case, natal mars in aquarius, being the ruler of the all those nodes in aries, also being in sextile and trine, non stressful aspects, to the south and north nodes of the moon, the planet mars could be the one in condition to help the evolution to proceed in the actual houses of the nodal axis, by way of mars/aquarius archetypes (past)? And if there are more planets in non stressful condition to the south node, can also help facilitating this process?
Yes. Mars is an archetype of the "new" - new choices, new directions, new paths, etc.
All desires to evolve come from the Soul (Pluto) and through Mars these desires are put into action.
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In that case the question that i still come to is, if you can answer, is in evolving from past to future, when simultaneously the south node of moon conjuncts the collective north node of mars, venus and the planet venus, ruler of the current north node of the moon, the movement of going forward seems do lead exactly to where it was in the first place, like in a loop, again with skipped steps?
Not skipped steps, but a re-living, going back. Why? In order to develop and express these dynamics in a NEW way.
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Or, if the necessary steps actually are taken, is it possible to say that the evolutionary intention can be to relive the archetypes (aries, libra) going from a situation of distortion/supression (moon cap square nodes and venus) to one of a new (aries) natural way of expression of the same archetypes, not conflicting within the soul?
Yes.
Hi Linda,
I can see i misunderstood your inicial information on the conjunction orb degrees.
mercury retrograde? :)
I really appreciate your insight on this, your thoughts were very helpful.
I'll work on that correct information.
Thank you,
Helena
Hi Linda,
Thanks for helping Helena with the questions she asked. All was correct in what you pointed out.
God Bless, Rad
Hi All,
Ok, let's now continue with our discussion of the transiting Lunar Nodes. If you have any questions please ask them of me. God Bless, Rad
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NEPTUNE, Pisces, and the 12th House: DECEPTION
So we will now continue in our ongoing understanding of the Neptune, the 12th House, and Pisces. In this next step which is intentionally simple we will examine one of the more sad dimensions of these archetypes: DECEPTION.
Any given Soul can be deceived and/or be the deceiver: or both. Any given Soul can of course also deceive themselves into 'believing' something is either true about themselves that is not, or allow themselves to be deceived because of some underlying need that dictates believing in the deception of another(s).
One of the core reasons that any given Soul can be deceived by another is rooted in what JWG called 'emotional assumptions' emanating from a consciousness that is inwardly defined by Natural Laws wherein there is an expectation that all humans treat one another according to those laws. In Natural Law there is no need to deceive because all humans are working together, in union, on behalf of the whole of the humans that are interacting among themselves. A simple example of one of those laws is the Natural Law of giving, sharing, and inclusion.
So a Soul that is aligned with those Natural Laws simply assumes THAT ALL OTHERS ARE IN FACT DOING SO WHEN THEY ARE NOT. Such Souls are then shocked when the actual reality of another(s) manifests that is in violation of those Natural Laws: another(s) purposeful deception of this kind of Soul.
Soul's that are not aligned with these Natural Laws, those who have identified with the perversion of those laws, then become the Souls who are able to then deceive others in order to accomplish some sort of agenda that they inwardly feel they could not otherwise actualize. This reflects the perversion of the Natural Law of giving, sharing, and inclusion to one of SELF INTEREST AND EXCLUSION. This type of Soul can then also attempt to convince itself of its own delusions about itself: that is not doing what it is actually doing.
Because of the Natural Law of karma wherein an action will have a proportionate reaction these types of Souls then set themselves up to also be deceived by others. Yet because of their own deceptions about themselves that manifests as denying their actual reality they then can feel VICTIMIZED by others who are in fact doing exactly what they themselves are doing.
By creating a consciousness that is now victimized these Souls then create rationalizations to victimize others by way of their agendas to get back at the others whom they have deceived themselves into believing that they have themselves been victimized by.
So when we look into any given birth chart we can see where all of these Neptune archetypes of deception can manifest. We can see it by way of the house and sign of the South Node of Neptune and the location by house/ sign and aspects to its ruler: Uranus. All Soul's on Earth have their collective South Nodes of Neptune in Aquarius which we will be discussing later on as we progress in this thread.
The placement of the natal Neptune by its own house and sign, and aspects to it, correlate with any given Soul bringing the past archetypes of deception into the current life consciousness. In other words the natal house and sign of Neptune in the current life correlates to the vehicles that the Soul is using in the current life that brings forth the past life dynamics of deception in order to deal with them in one way or the other in the context of the current life.
The North Node of Neptune, which of course is in Leo for all Souls, by its own house and sign and the aspects to it, correlates with how the Soul is intending to take charge of these existing dynamics involving deception in order to do what is necessary about them so that, hopefully and intentionally, that they are eliminated from the consciousness of the Soul: either by not allowing itself to be deceived by others ever again, or by exposing the inner deceptions the Soul has about itself that then manifests as deceiving others and/ or allowing itself to be deceived because of some need that has created that deception in the first place.
In the context of the current life the sign on the 12th House, the location of its planetary ruler with aspects to it, and where the sign Pisces is on a given house cusp which then of course refers back to the totality of the Neptune archetype, it's North and South Nodes, are additional vehicles or doors through which the archetype of deception can manifest.
And now with the transit of the Lunar Nodes into Pisces and Virgo the actual house that the S. Lunar Node of Pisces can correlate to where the Soul can experience these types of deceptions which will then lead to an experiential crisis, Virgo, because of those deceptions. The house the the Lunar N.Node of Virgo is in can also serve as the lead point of attracting these types of deceptions. In other words brand new types of circumstances and developments in the Soul's life can manifest through the house of the transiting Lunar N.Node of Virgo in which the Soul can be deceived even as the Soul wants to "˜believe' that whatever the nature of those new circumstances and developments are are in fact rooted in truth versus something in which some sort of deception is taking place.
Hi Rad, i remember when JWG teaching about pisces/neptune/12th house archtype, he mentioned there are exhausted souls, these souls would need more rest/sleep to recover energy (can't remember how he said it excatly), does this exhausted soul correlates to neptune archetype? And would you please give some example, why would a soul choose this condition of life, or what kind of karma/trauma could lead to this condition? I can understand body get's tired, or people become emotionally drained, but why is a soul borned exhausted, like before incarnation, can't a soul recharge its energy?
Thank you as always!
Hi Wei,
Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th correlates with sleep whereas the exhaustion of the Soul, itself, correlates with Scorpio, Pluto, and the 8th House. What JWG was referring too are Soul's who have experienced so much trauma, unresolved, that it then leads to such a condition. What those traumas have been, and the causes of, can only be determined, in each case, by a careful EA examination of the birth chart of such Souls. Remember, trauma of itself, correlates to Uranus, Aquarius, and the 11th House. The 'why' of it is also determined by way of the overall EA signature of each chart in which this occurs. Yes, when the Soul leaves the physical form after each life, there is a sense of Soul renewal: being recharged. Yet when Souls who have deep unresolved trauma are reborn it is the weight of those unresolved traumas that exist as actual memories within the Soul that manifest through the individuated unconscious, Uranus, Aquarius, and the 11th House, that then can cause this condition of exhaustion to the point of needing excessive sleep in order to deal with it, and to, hopefully renew the Soul to some extent.
God Bless, Rad
Hi Rad, thanks for this amazing infomation, exactly what i wanna know.
Hi Wei,
Remember too that the flip side of those Souls born with deep, unresolved, trauma, or deep trauma created in the current life, is an inability to sleep for any real length of time: basically cat naps of various duration's.
God Bless, Rad
I would like to participate in a discussion of transiting Lunar nodes affecting us at a World level, as well as a personal Soul level.
thank you.
How does the current, transiting, SN in Pisces relate to an individual's Ultimate Sense of Meaning and Ideals in terms of whether this Meaning is being projected on others, or being realized as an "Inner Marriage" with the Self?
Does the transiting NN in Virgo act as a catalyst to wake up an individual as to how their relationship to the "Source of All Things" is being realized and evolved?
Welcome Marty.
Hi Marty,
" How does the current, transiting, SN in Pisces relate to an individual's Ultimate Sense of Meaning and Ideals in terms of whether this Meaning is being projected on others, or being realized as an "Inner Marriage" with the Self?"
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The transiting S.Lunar Node of Pisces, as well as the transit of Neptune, can correlate to where the Soul projects an ultimate sense of meaning for their life: by house, aspects to it, where the natural ruler of Pisces, Neptune, is located natally and the aspects to it, the location of the S.Node of Neptune, aspects to it, and the location of it's natural planetary ruler by house, sign, and aspects to it. All this has been explained previously in all that has been written in this thread to this point. When the sense of ultimate meaning is projecting onto anything other than the Source OF All Things then, at some point, the experience of disillusionment will take place in order to create, because of the crisis created by way of being disillusioned, the natural Virgo counterpoint, the awareness of why this projection has been made in the first place. In so doing, Soul knowledge occurs so that, hopefully, such projections are no longer further made, and the Soul can orientate, desire, to KNOW what the climate meaning for life is. Once this is set in motion, at some point, the Soul will arrive, evolve, towards the inner sacred marriage that you are speaking of.
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"Does the transiting NN in Virgo act as a catalyst to wake up an individual as to how their relationship to the "Source of All Things" is being realized and evolved?"
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Yes
God Bless, Rad
All,
We will continue on with our discussion of the transiting Lunar Nodes in Virgo and Pisces. We will now focus on Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th house archetypal correlations to victimization. If you have any questions please ask. God Bless, Rad
NEPTUNE AND VICTIMIZATION
One of the correlations of Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House is one of victimization. There are two manifestations of this archetype: (1) to feel victimized by some external source, and (2) to victimize others through one's own actions which so often connects to a relative archetype: scapegoating.
As relative archetype that then correlates to this is one of persecution: being persecuted, or doing the persecuting.
When a Soul feels victimized this typically occurs because it cannot understand and/ or accept the responsibility in its own actions, actions that, at some point, have created the necessity of being victimized by another(s). This can be particularity difficult when those actions have taken place in another life, or lives, because most Souls do not have the evolved capacity to remember their own prior lives.
This is one of the wonderful things about EA because it allows for exactly that kind of understanding in order to accept the responsibilities in one's own actions even when those actions have taken place in another time and place.
When a Soul has felt victimized, is unable to accept/ understand the responsibilities in their own actions it can be very easy to victimize another(s). In essence, to blame others, scapegoat, others for that which the Soul is responsible for. Thus, to project what is actually taking place within their own subconsciousness, Uranus, onto others and/ or making up out of whole cloth "˜realities' that have nothing to do with actual reality: delusions and illusions.
This of course can manifest as whole groups of people, countries too, attacking/ persecuting/ and victimizing other groups of people and/ or whole countries. All too often "˜religion' is used in the "˜name of God' as the justification in so doing. So we end up with evil creeps like Hitler, Pol-Pot, this religious group or that, attacking whole groups of people or races that are scapegoated, victimized, persecuted in order to mask their own actual realities and agendas which they are in denial of.
Sadly, human history from the time of the Patriarchy forwards is full of this, and is full of one human victimizing/ persecuting/ scapegoating another human. This happens in all dimensions and spheres of human interaction.
An extension of these archetypes of victimization/ persecution/ and scapegoating are the archetypes of masochism and sadism. Masochism is an archetype that is rooted in guilt, and the need to atone for that guilt. Thus, the Soul who is masochistic feels that the abuse that it attracts is DESERVED. Sadism is also rooted in guilt yet that guilt creates a deep inner anger that is projected onto others is sadistic ways: a deep need/ desire to humiliate and abuse others FOR THAT WHICH IT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR. Masochists blame themselves for that which THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR.
It is very important to understand that Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House correlate to the "˜potential' for masochism/ sadism. In other words it is within these archetypes. Yet, it is through the natural polarity of Virgo, the 6th House, and Mercury that triggers the potential within these archetypes to manifest as a reality. The archetypes of Virgo, Mercury, and the 6th House, among others, is one wherein the Soul creates various kinds of crises that, by their very nature, trigger the actualization of the potential contained in the Pisces, 12th House, and Neptune archetypes.
There is also a form of masochism that JWG called "˜spiritual masochism' which is very different that psychopathologic masochism. Spiritual masochism is the conscious act of sacrificing oneself on behalf of another or others so that by such an act of self-sacrifice another or others can benefit in some way. So we can have the extreme example of a Soul like Jesus hanging on the Cross and basically suffocating to death so that other Souls could benefit by this act of sacrifice to a mother allowing one of her kidney's to be taken out, and given to another who could then live because of this act of sacrifice. These examples could be exampled in all kinds of ways.
Spiritual Masochism thus correlates to a related archetype called martyrdom. Through the archetype of martyrdom the Soul sacrifices itself for a cause that is larger than itself.
The transit of Neptune, the Lunar South Node in Pisces by house relative to the location of it's Neptune natal placement can correlate to where a Soul can create the sense of being victimized, and why. The transiting Lunar N.Node in Virgo, by house relative to it's natal planetary ruler, Mercury, can correlate to the actual circumstances, the lead point for the evolving Soul, that create this sense of being victimized.
Quote from: Rad on Jan 06, 2016, 05:27 AM
Hi Wei,
Remember too that the flip side of those Souls born with deep, unresolved, trauma, or deep trauma created in the current life, is an inability to sleep for any real length of time: basically cat naps of various duration's.
God Bless, Rad
Hi Rad, i'm completely resonate with what you described......is this situation cyclically or permanently for this kind of soul? I'd guess if any transit/progression triggered this deep unresolved trauma, in this time period this situation would be intensified? In this situation, the soul can't really do any healing work or recover their energy during sleep state, may i ask what the soul should do, take cat naps as they can then follow the impulsion to do something when they can't fall asleep? And how should they regenerate their energy in this case?
Many thanks
Hi Wei,
" i'm completely resonate with what you described......is this situation cyclically or permanently for this kind of soul?"
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It can be either depending on the Soul, and the nature of the unresolved traumas
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"I'd guess if any transit/progression triggered this deep unresolved trauma, in this time period this situation would be intensified?"
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Yes
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"In this situation, the soul can't really do any healing work or recover their energy during sleep state, may i ask what the soul should do, take cat naps as they can then follow the impulsion to do something when they can't fall asleep? And how should they regenerate their energy in this case?"
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The best thing to do is just go with these cycles of cat naps AS THEY OCCUR. So, yes, to go with it, some impulse to act, as they occur as well. The regeneration, to the extent it's possible, occurs by following these cycles of cat naps and being awake as they occur.
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God Bless, Rad
All,
So we can continue on in our discussion and understanding of the transiting Lunar Nodes. If you have any questions please ask them of me. God Bless, Rad
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NEPTUNE - INSTABILITY OF THE CONSCIOUSNESS OF THE SOUL
So now we can add to our ongoing understanding of the totality of the archetypes that correlate with Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th house which involves the potential for the consciousness of the Soul to manifest various neurosis's, psychosis's, schizophrenia, multiple personality disorders, and total insanity.
When the inherent structural nature of consciousness which correlates to Saturn, Capricorn, and the 10th House becomes fractured in such a way that it's structural integrity that keeps the consciousness stable becomes unstable. The stable nature of the consciousness defined through its inherent structure correlates to the inherent proportions of the physiology of the brain. When this physiology changes in its proportions then the nature of the consciousness changes relative to its inherent design. Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th house specifically correlate to the balance or imbalances of the various physiological substances within the brain. These potential imbalances can be from relatively slight to extreme.
The causative factor in the proportions of the various physiologies within the brain of course is the Soul. Thus, the conditions that the Soul creates for itself coming through its evolutionary time which reflects it's desires, and the consequences of those desires, causes the specific physiology within the brain in each life.
Pluto, Scorpio, and the 8th House correlate to the primary brain. As we just learned in our last segment this is where our dreams manifest from. The nature of most dreams seem non-sensical where all kinds of images manifest in a non-structured way. They seem to have a life of their own where the 'dreamer' of the dreams feels unable to change them. The dreams appear or 'seem' to be in charge of the dreamer: a hapless witness who at once is observing and experiencing the emotional effects of the dreams themselves.
When the Soul becomes fractured for whatever reasons this fracturing will create some degree of trauma. The nature of the trauma(s) then becomes the causative factor in the nature of the dream images. The physiology of these then alters the natural physiological balances of all the various substances within the brain. In turn this can then lead, in varying degrees, to various neurosis's , psychosis's, schizophrenia, , multiple personality disorder, and total insanity wherein the egocentric structure that the Soul has created in whatever current life becomes overwhelmed by the unconscious content that then manifests in these ways: like 'dreams' that become the 'reality', Saturn, for the Soul itself.
It is as if the primary brain that, again, is the seat of the Soul that contains within itself all prior life memories, is pounding on Saturn's door in such a way as to overwhelm that structural control of consciousness in its natural or inherent state. Thus, the inner imagery that comes from this primary brain interacts with the mid brain, Neptune, by way of the limbic system. Here, again, we have the secretion of physiological substances that directly correlate to and trigger emotions. So now we can see that the Soul is reacting to itself by way of the images manifesting from it that have an emotional reactions that now begin to overwhelm the natural or inherent structural nature of the brain by way of the natural proportions of the various physiological substances that keep it that way.
In essence Saturn correlates to the natural boundary within consciousness that separates the unconscious content of the Soul, and it's current life reality that is defined by the egocentric structure that the Soul has created for that life. This is the natural structural nature of consciousness. And this is deliberate by way of the Soul, and the Creator of the Soul, so that the Soul can focus on the life at hand, and the intentions for that life which of course reflects its ongoing evolutionary journey. Thus, a natural evolutionary progression can occur for the Soul in a natural way.
When the natural proportions of the various physiological substances within the brain become altered for the reasons we now can understand this then causes the Soul to IMAGINE, Neptune, 'realities', Saturn, where what is being imagined by way of the various neurosis's, psychosis's, schizophrenia, and total insanity is being caused by memories from this or other lives that is projected from within the consciousness of the Soul into its current life circumstances. Again, this can range from being relatively mild to extreme. In all cases there is an imbalance of the inherent total physiology of the brain. This is why, for example, these conditions of consciousness, in the times we now live in, are treated with drugs, physiological substances, whose intent of course to stabilize the consciousness within the brain that is being caused by the Soul itself.
From an EA point of view when any of these conditions occur from within the consciousness of the Soul it is necessary to determine the 'why' of it in order to understand it. This as we know is one of the great wonders of EA for it allows the EA astrologer to play a role that is similar to a detective. An EA detective ! Thus an understanding of the core EA paradigm can provide exactly this understanding because of its detective nature: cause and effect.
Within that EA paradigm there will almost always be a signature that correlates with these altered states of consciousness wherein the inherent physiological substances within the brain are out of balance in some way. This signature can be seen in many ways but the archetype of Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th house will always be indicated by, typically, stressful aspects. Squares to Neptune, T-squares to Neptune, oppositions Neptune or planets in the 12th House, to the ruler of the 12th House, or to the Nodal Axis of Neptune can all correlate to this signature.
Additionally, wherever the transit of Neptune is as well as the transiting S.Node of the Moon in Pisces by house, that then refers back to the natal Neptune as well as the S.Node of Neptune, can correlate to where and how this potential for instability within the consciousness of the Soul can take place. The transiting N.Node in Virgo by house, it's reference to the natal position of Mercury by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it, can operate as the operational circumstantial trigger that that can create or lead to this instability within the consciousness of the Soul. Such circumstances will correlate to the Soul perceiving some kind of crisis where the nature of the perceived crisis is that which causes the instability to occur.
Hi Rad, can you talk about generally what role does "progressed mercury" play when transiting NN is in virgo?
Thank you!
Hi Wei,
None. JWG did not use any progressed system in his EA work. All such systems are 'derived' in there nature. Thus, not actual. Transits on the other hand are actual.
God Bless, Rad
Quote from: Rad on Jan 25, 2016, 03:44 AM
Hi Wei,
None. JWG did not use any progressed system in his EA work. All such systems are 'derived' in there nature. Thus, not actual. Transits on the other hand are actual.
God Bless, Rad
Thanks for clarifying it.
Hi Rad,
Just to be clear regarding what you said about progressions. You mean in relation to the transiting nodes or in general?
Thank you
All the best
Hi Skywalker,
In general. JWG only wanted to work with that which is actual, not derived.
God Bless, Rad
All,
I am posting the birth charts now of Bernie Sanders, Trump, and the USA. You will notice in the case of Sanders that he is now having an exact Lunar Nodes Return, Trump is having the transiting Lunar Nodes square his natal Lunar Nodes, and the USA chart now has the transiting N.Lunar Node exactly conjunct it's natal Neptune: the lunacy, crisis, manifesting from the Republican party.
God Bless, Rad
P.S. To enlarge any of these charts simply click on the 'jpg' of each one.
Hi Rad,
Funny was just thinking about all this presidential stuff this morning.
Bernie Sanders´ transiting South Node is in his Tenth House and will be right on the MC around the time that the elections will take place. Wouldn´t this indicate that from an evolutionary point of view, he is actually resisting the evolutionary need to develop his self image from the inside out, and that is what he should be doing instead of trying to become president?
On the other hand, Hillary Clinton will have the transiting North Node close to her MC at the time of the elections. This seems to indicate a need for her to step into a position of authority, for her own evolutionary purposes, and seems like an indication that she might become the next president. Would also love to know your thoughts about her.
Thank you
All the best
Hi Skywalker,
"Bernie Sanders´ transiting South Node is in his Tenth House and will be right on the MC around the time that the elections will take place. Wouldn´t this indicate that from an evolutionary point of view, he is actually resisting the evolutionary need to develop his self image from the inside out, and that is what he should be doing instead of trying to become president?"
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It the transiting N.Node in Virgo that is coming over his 10th House planets, not the S.Node. With the Sun conjunct his N.Node, and the ruler of his S.Node, Neptune, also conjunct this his Soul has previous to this life been utterly focused on creating positions within societies that are help to others in various ways. The ruler of his N.Node, Mercury in Libra trining his Uranus in Gemini, in the 7th, clearly correlates to a Soul who has been fighting the inherent injustice that is caused by those who have been, and are, in positions of power where that power has lead to privilege and greed: inequality. So here he is again. He speaks too and represents the 'common' person. Thus, all the contributions to his campaign come from 'common' people: not one penny from super pacs or corporations. His Soul is doing exactly what it is meant to do.
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"On the other hand, Hillary Clinton will have the transiting North Node close to her MC at the time of the elections. This seems to indicate a need for her to step into a position of authority, for her own evolutionary purposes, and seems like an indication that she might become the next president. Would also love to know your thoughts about her."
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She has had positions of power in this life before now. She is also doing exactly what he Soul intends to do.
God Bless, Rad
Hi Rad,
Well the chart you have for Bernie Sanders is different from the one I saw (from astrotheme) which has a Pisces MC and I didn´t click on the one you posted since I had already seen the other one. Yes like this it makes sense that he is also doing exactly as is intended. Interesting that around the time of the elections transiting Pluto will be in a very tight trine to his Sun in Virgo, a symbol of empowerment.
Thank you
All the best
All,
So we will continue on in our discussion and understanding the transiting Lunar Nodes. If you have any questions please ask them of me.
God Bless, Rad
NEPTUNE AND OTHER ARCHETYPAL CORRELATIONS:
HOPE AND FAITH AS INTRINSIC TO ONSCIOUSNESS OF THE SOUL, AND MIRACLES
Consciousness as set in motion by the Source Of All things that is defined by a Soul in human form contains the archetypes of hope and faith. Hope and faith are psychological dynamics that the Soul draws upon in the context of circumstances that are, by their nature, defeating or limiting to the Soul in some way, or when some kind of dead end is reached in which "˜all hope is lost' for any other outcome. In those kinds of circumstances if the Soul was not able to draw upon these intrinsic dynamics to consciousness, hope and faith that leads to way through or out of those kinds of circumstances, the consequence would be wherein the Soul could feel so defeated, so futile, that this could cause the Soul to not want to continue on its life, it's ongoing evolutionary journey through time: to feel utterly hopeless.
When a Soul becomes hopeless to alter or change anything in its life in general, or because of certain circumstances specifically, this simultaneously ignites futility, self-defeat - Capricorn, Saturn, and the 10th House -, and loss of any desire to continue on with its life. In this state of hopelessness the Soul also loses any capacity of have faith, a faith that somehow "˜things' can get better. In combination with hopelessness and a loss of faith can cause the Soul to lose any sense of meaning for its life: Neptune and it's lower octave Venus. Without any sense of meaning the Soul then becomes "˜lost as sea', so to speak. This can then ignite, through the natural triad of Pisces, Scorpio, and Cancer, the Soul to either "˜escape' from the circumstances of its life, and/or to end its life outright by the act of suicide. Suicide correlates with Scorpio, Pluto, and the 8th House, and escapism is specific to Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House. Escapism can have many forms including alcohol and drugs.
Escapism can of course then lead to another archetype of Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House: addictions. Addictions can have many forms but all forms of addictions linked with escapism have one underlying cause: the desire/ need to blunt the effects of actual reality: Saturn.
Hope and faith are also the determinants that can cause what the consciousness within the human Soul can perceive as "˜miracles'. Miracles of course can be caused by the Source Of All Things Itself in which the very nature of the miracle can only be attributed to some "˜supernatural' force and/or what we call God. The history of human beings has many testimonies to this fact. These types of miracles can occur when one or more human beings appeal too, pray, for their idea of God to intervene in order to alter the circumstances as hand that otherwise seem "˜hopeless'.
On the other hand, miracles can also be caused the power that is inherent within the dynamics of faith and hope by human beings themselves. This is done through the power inherent in faith and hope, a power that when projected from the consciousness of the Soul creates an electro magnetism that then alters the nature of the circumstances that ignited the Soul in the first place to hope through faith so as to alter that which needed to be altered or changed.
Wherever the transit of Neptune is, the aspects it is making to other natal planets, in combination with the transiting S.Lunar Node of the Moon in Pisces that then refer to the S.Node of Neptune, aspects to it, can correlate to where these dynamics are experienced in the context of each Soul's individual life. The transiting North Lunar Node in Virgo by house that then refers to natal Mercury by house, and aspects to other natal planets, and the transiting Mercury itself, can serve as the lead point by way of the circumstances that the Soul is creating that ignite the dynamics of hope, faith, and the potential for miracles to occur in the life of the Soul in it's ongoing evolutionary journey.
All,
So let's continue on with our discussion and understanding the of transiting Lunar Nodes. If you have any questions please ask them of me.
God Bless, Rad
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Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House correlations to wounds of the physical, emotional, mental bodies, and the Soul itself
Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House also correlate with the archetypes of healing, healing of some existing conditions, WOUNDS, whether they are on the physical level as in the body, the emotional level, or for the Soul itself because of becoming so crushed through a diversity of possible causes.
WOUNDING OF THE SOUL
"Wounds" which also correlate with the Neptune, Pisces, and 12 House archetypes can of course have many causes, and many forms including terminal illnesses. In order for the Soul to be able to heal these various wounds it is essential to identify the causes of whatever the wounds are. By identifying the causes the remedies for those causes, the wounds, can then be determined.
If the wounds are physical in nature, some kind of problem in the physical body, then the Source Of All Things has placed within the Manifest Creation on our planet various substances in the forms of plants, minerals, foods, and other agents within Nature that can be used to treat the physical illnesses of the body.
Many of these natural substances are used by practitioners of medicine in the form of the potentized medicines that have been produced to also deal with physical illnesses. Humans have evolved to the point of also being able to create new "˜allopathic designs' that allow new drugs to be made to combat various ailments that have not been treatable before such designs were realized. In combination with the Scorpio, Pluto, and the 8th House the triad with Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House has allowed humans to evolve to the point of being able to surgically operate on the body in order to help it heal from various physical problems.
If the wounds are of a psychological/ emotional nature to a Soul, Soul wounds, then the healing that can take place must, and can only, occur when the Soul in question is able to identify and accept the responsibility in their own actions that has been the cause or determinant of these types of wounds themselves. The affects, memories, of some wounds can never be changed of course. This is a necessary so that the Soul will never do again whatever it has done that is responsible for whatever the wound has been.
The wounding of the Soul through its emotional body can be seen within the birth chart by way of the South Node of Neptune by house and sign, the aspects to it from other planets, the location of its planetary ruler by its own house/ sign, and aspects to it, the natal placement of Neptune by its own house, sign, and aspects to it, where the sign Pisces is on a house cusp which then draws in the entire Neptune paradigm, the sign on the 12th House cusp, the location of its planetary ruler by its own house, sign, and aspects to it, and any planets that are within the 12th House, aspects to them, and the signs they naturally rule by way of the location of those signs within the birth chart.
Wounds can also be seen through the lower octave of Neptune: Venus. So in the same way we would examine the entirety of the Neptune paradigm we must also examine the totality of the Venus paradigm in order to understand, in conjunction with the Neptune paradigm, all the potential source, causes, of the wounds to the Soul that can occur through time: the history of the individual Soul's evolution through time.
Within this understanding it is essential to remember that the vast majority of the wounds that can take place to the Soul occur because humans in general have perverted the Natural Law of giving, sharing, and inclusion. This Natural Law is in fact symbolized by these same two archetypes: Neptune and Venus, Pisces, Libra, and Taurus.
Once this perversion occurred this Natural Law then manifested as self-interest and exclusion. The overall consciousness of humans in a collective sense, Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House devolved from the Natural Law of giving, sharing, and inclusion at the time of when humans went from being nomadic in nature, to one of living in communities defined by farming and the raising of animals. This is when humans began to invent religions and cosmologies that progressively violated the Natural Laws that were set in motions by the Source Of All Things. The South Node of Neptune in Aquarius, which all humans have, correlates to exactly that time: from around 7,200 B.C.E forwards.
Once this began the collective consciousness of humans shifted their inner orientation of "˜we' to "I". In Natural Law the "I "is understood within the context of "˜we' where "˜we' is the bottom line of how the individual understands itself. When this Natural Law is perverted then the "I" is the bottom line within the collective consciousness. And when that happens then all the wounds that can happen to an individual Soul, and Souls within a group that has or can experience genocide as a sub-group of humans, occur because of this perversion of the Natural Law of giving, sharing, and inclusion.
This inner shift to the "I" in collective consciousness is also, of course responsible, for the human organism being is a state of total imbalance to Nature itself. Balance as an archetype correlates with both Neptune, and it's lower octave Venus. As a result, the human organism is in a state of collective conscious wherein it dominates Nature in order to serve its own needs which are defined, again, by self-interest and exclusion. So humans rape the Earth itself in every possible way, poison it's atmosphere, and kill off or exterminate hundreds of life forms EVERY SINGLE DAY.
So when you look into the birth chart in order to understand all the wounds that can be seen relative to the paradigms of Neptune and Venus just remember that the vast majority have occurred because of this violation of the Natural Law. When the focus shifts to the "I" as the bottom line that then equals self-interest and exclusion then the understanding of how humans can wound themselves among themselves becomes self-evident.
The transiting South Lunar Node in Pisces by house which then references the natal Neptune and all aspects to it, the S.Node of Neptune and all aspects to it, can correlate where existing wounds are within the Soul that can be healed if possible, how that healing can take place, and or where new wounds can occur relative to the circumstances triggered by the transiting Lunar N.Node in Virgo by house, the transiting Mercury by house, sign, and aspects it makes, to the natal Mercury by house and all aspects to it, and the South and North Nodes of Mercury and all aspects to them.
All,
We will continue on with our discussion of the transiting Lunar Nodes in Pisces and Virgo. If you have any questions please ask them of me. What is presented below will the the last of all the archetypes that correlate to Pisces/ Neptune and Virgo/ Mercury. I have also included some questions and answers about these last specific correlations that came from another thread we used to have on this mb. I have done this because there is some qreat information in those questions and answers. After this post I will also be posting on Saturn's transit in Sagittarius as it is of course squaring, progressively, the transiting Lunar Nodes in Pisces and Virgo.
God Bless, Rad
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PSYCHIC PHENOMENA
Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House also correlate with the archetypes wherein an individual consciousness of a Soul can be aware of various types of "˜psychic' phenomena that include premonitions, deja-vu type awareness, seeing the future in the form of visions that can be about the Soul itself, other Souls, or humanity itself, communicating with Souls in other planes of existence that are no longer in a physical body, telepathic communions, being able to read the mind of another(s), out of body experiences, and so on.
As an aside, it might be interesting to consider what the nature of a deja vu is given the fact that almost all Souls, independent of it degree of evolution, have. All Souls, prior to incarnating back into another life, receive a vision, like a movie, of what that life will be: it's general contour. Thus, when the Soul encounters certain 'scenes' that connect to that vision or movie in the context of the next life they are then "˜remembered' as if THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN THERE.
In Souls that have the various types of "˜psychic' phenomena occur it will always correlate with, in some degree, of elevated levels of melatonin in the brain. Melatonin, a hormone, is secreted from the pineal gland deep in the brain. Emotionally, this correlates with the degree of "˜sensitivity' that any Soul has within itself, and, through extension to the degree of empathy a Soul can have for others. Sensitivity and empathy both correlate to Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House. From the point of view of the consciousness of the Soul melatonin correlates to expanding the degree of "˜awareness' that a Soul has relative to the totality of life itself. Thus, expanded awareness is the foundation for what we call psychic awareness in all of its forms. Astrologically, when a Soul has these psychic capacities in one degree or another the Neptune paradigm will always be emphasized in some way: planets in Pisces, the 12th House, many aspects to Neptune, planets squaring the Nodal axis of Neptune.
From and evolutionary astrologer's point of view it is important to understand the "˜why' that any given Soul has that correlates with these expanded psychic capacities: the why correlating to the evolutionary needs of the Soul relative to its ongoing journey through time.
THE POWER OF IMAGINATION
Another archetype that we will focus on that correlates with Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House is one of imagination. Imagination is an extremely powerful psychological dynamic that can have both constructive/ positive effects and benefits to the Soul as well as destructive / negative ones. Think about the Source Of All Things setting in motion the Manifest Creation that was imagined within the consciousness of that Source. The "˜possibilities' that can be imagined by way of Creation into actual realities is only limited by imagination itself.
The root of all creativity lies in imagination. Inventions, art, writing, fantasies, the building of various forms, the structural nature of "˜reality' itself in every possible way stems from the imagination of the Source Of All Things. Thus, each conscious element of form within the total Creation that is Manifested has the inherent capacity to imagine different realities in general, and different realities for itself as a life form that is conscious relative to the intelligence imbued within it.
For example here on Earth all life forms have a consciousness that has intelligence within them. On this Earth a core Natural Law for all life forms in one of being able to survive. All life forms interact with all other life forms in some way. In order to survive the intelligence inherent to the consciousness of whatever life form must be able to imagine possibilities for itself that correlate with its survival needs. Intelligence thus linked with imagination gives life forms a way of actualizing that which is imagined.
The human life for, and the intelligent consciousness within it has exactly the same capacity to imagine different realities, possibilities, and problem solving that correlate with its ongoing evolutionary needs as a species, as well as each individual Soul and it's consciousness having the same capacity. In both IT IS THE EVOLUTIONARY NEEDS THAT ARE THE DETERMINANTS OF THAT WHICH IS IMAGINED. This, of course, is also true for all other life forms that are conscious with an intelligence within that consciousness.
Of course when the natural dynamic of imagination combines with other natural dynamics/ archetypes within the totality of consciousness in human form it can be both beneficial as well as not. For example, a Soul can "˜imagine' that which is not real yet consider that which is imagined as real. When combined with the dynamic of projection, for example, this can cause a Soul to project imagined realities onto others that have nothing to do with the actual realities of those others. Or a Soul can "˜imagine' that it has certain abilities or capacities that it does not actually have yet considers within itself that it does have. A Soul can imagine Creation stories that are not rooted in actual reality, yet the myths generated from such an imagined Creation story are considered to be reality instead of myths. A Soul can imagine that it is being attacked or persecuted when it is not, and so on and so forth. These are examples of the destructive use of imagination.
Conversely , a Soul may have a natural capacity to be a writer of short/ fictionalized stories who can then imagine realities created for itself if it takes action, effort, to actualize itself in this way. Thus, what can be imagined is within the realm of possibilities for that Soul, and this can them manifest as actual reality. This would be an example of the creative use of imagination that could be exampled in countless ways.
Imagination can also be a form of fantasies as well wherein that which is fantasized about, fueled by imagination, is created and used by the Soul as a vehicle to create a counter-point to the actual reality that it has created for itself. Thus use of such imagined fantasies by the Soul is to create a kind of psychic relief valve, like water boiling into steam, that can depressurized the immediacy of the Soul's actual circumstantial life so that it can remain stable as possible in those immediate circumstances.
Conversely, the use of imagined fantasies which will always be more free and vastly different than the actual circumstances of the Soul's life can cause the Soul to suffer even more in those circumstances because of the Neptune/Venus archetype of comparing. So if the Soul then compares it's actual reality to that which can be imagined / fantasized about this can have the opposite affect that leads to causing the Soul to suffer even more in the actual circumstances of its life.
In EA one can determine the very nature of a Soul's imagination, of that which is imagined and why as this relates possible future realities for the Soul, by way of understanding the totality of the Neptune paradigm in the birth chart: the North and South Nodes of Neptune by house locality, the placement of the planetary rulers of each by their own house/ sign and aspects to them, where the sign Pisces is that draws into that house the entire Neptune paradigm, and of course the sign on the 12th House, the location of its planetary ruler with aspects to it, and any planets within the 12th House itself and the aspects that these planets are making to other planets as well as the signs that they naturally rule by way of the house cusps that they are on.
In the same way in EA we can see through the totality of all those Neptunian signatures in the birth chart where the possibility of that which is imagined is entirely delusive in nature yet can be considered as real by the Soul.
Wherever the transiting South Lunar Node in Pisces is by house that can trigger the natal signatures of the South and North Node of Neptune, natal Neptune, and all the aspects to these points can correlate to where various types of psychic phenomena and where the imagination of the Soul manifests, and for what reasons. The transiting Lunar North Node in Virgo by house that then references the North and South Nodes of Mercury by house, and all the aspects to these points can correlate the the immediate circumstances in the life of the Soul that operate to trigger these dynamics.
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
(Q) Why does Pisces Neptune and the 12th house correlate with wounds in general? Would it be that these archetypes correlate to all that is unresolved/unfinished within the Soul, to all the emotional and psychological baggage that has been suppressed, avoided etc. which then represent unfinished business?"
(A) Because they correlate with the TOTALITY of the emotional body that is symbolized in the natural trinity of Cancer, Moon, and the 4th House, and Scorpio, Pluto, and the 8th House. All wounds are registered in the emotional body relative to the specific kinds of wounds that take place through these related archetypes.
(Q) How does the Chiron archetype fit into all this relative to wounds and Neptune?
(A) Again, Chiron as well as other archetypes correlate to specific kinds of wounds. Chiron, even though most don't know this, can also do the wounding as well as being wounded by others. Thus, it's natal placement can correlate to how we wound others, but, of course, how others can wound the Soul. If a person had natal Chiron in Scorpio in the 12th, for example, this could correlate to a Soul who has blindly trusted others because of always seeing the good in whomever and, because of that blind trust of always seeing the good in another, become totally disillusioned when someone who has been trusted betrays or in some violates the trust extended. Others who use the Soul relative to their own agendas in which the Soul never 'gets' because of the blind trust. And so on. Conversely, the Soul can wound others through misrepresenting themselves relative to some hidden agenda that demonstrates the real intent for being with them in the first place. And so on.
Chiron as an archetype can also WOUND ITSELF. The house, sign, and aspect to the natal position of Chiron would correlate to how a Soul can do just that.
(Q) Is it possible for a soul to experience wounding related to a particular past life after that ego has passed on? For example, if the past life ego became a historical figure, and over the course of time, its reputation was slandered and the masses believed the slander, would this affect the soul?
(A) In varying degrees depending on the evolutionary station of a Soul, yes.
(Q) Does pain correlate with Neptune?
It depends on the nature of the pain itself. From an emotional/ psychological point of view this would correlate with Scorpio, Pluto, and the 8th House but of course this is part of the natural triad, trinity, with Neptune, Pisces, the 12th House, and Cancer, Moon, and the 4th House. Physical pains correlate with the lower octave of Pluto, the 8th House, and Scorpio: Aries, Mars, and the 1st House.
What I would like you to do is to focus on the dynamics of wounds in the birth chart. As was stated he wounding of the Soul through its emotional body can be seen within the birth chart by way of the South Node of Neptune by house and sign, the aspects to it from other planets, the location of its planetary ruler by its own house/ sign, and aspects to it, the natal placement of Neptune by its own house, sign, and aspects to it, where the sign Pisces is on a house cusp which then draws in the entire Neptune paradigm, the sign on the 12th House cusp, the location of its planetary ruler by its own house, sign, and aspects to it, and any planets that are within the 12th House, aspects to them, and the signs they naturally rule by way of the location of those signs within the birth chart.
Wounds can also be seen through the lower octave of Neptune: Venus. So in the same way we would examine the entirety of the Neptune paradigm we must also examine the totality of the Venus paradigm in order to understand, in conjunction with the Neptune paradigm, all the potential source, causes, of the wounds to the Soul that can occur through time: the history of the individual Soul's evolution through time.
So what I would like you to do is to focus on these two paradigms by way of any birth chart of your choosing in order to identify a core wounding is that chart. In other words, you don't have to do an entire EA analysis of ALL the wounds in that birth chart, just a core wound within the other wounds of that chart. Once identified I would like you to see if you can determine the actual cause of that Soul that then lead to that wound. This is one of the most vital ways we can help the clients that we have because almost all clients will want to talk about the wounds that they have in some way. So by helping them understand that actual causes is to help them heal those wounds. The self-awareness as to cause is that which allows the Soul to not only identify that cause but to actually do something about it that, if acted upon, will help eliminate the need to recreate that wound over and over.
(Q) I'd like to ask about Neptune's wounds for this assignment. Would they be only the wounds relative to Neptune's archetypal dynamics such as being disillusioned which then wounded the Soul or other wounds relative to the other planets which would be experienced or expressed via Neptune and potential imbalances, addictions, escapist tendencies, etc. ?
Wounds, as a general archetype, correlate to Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House. Yet, as we know, there are all kinds/ types of wounds that are specific to various archetypes: i.e. Scorpio, Pluto, and the 8th correlating, among other things, to betrayal, or abandonment. The underlying dynamics that I was trying to focus upon was the necessity for any Soul to understand, and take responsibility for, the cause of whatever wounds so that a healing can take place as a result versus feeling like a victim.
(Q)I have read and studied them but do have doubts relative to determining if someone is in spiritual 1 moving on to spiritual 2 or if they are beginning spiritual 3. It seems that in both these stages the Soul can be extremely devoted to God or some form of work for the benefit of others and, the main difference seems to be the inner reality and orientation. Does someone in third spiritual have total memory of their various past lives while, in first spiritual these memories begin to progressively be remembered?
Some of the hallmarks of the 1st Stage spiritual on one of desiring to be of service to others, of orientating to various techniques or practices that will allow them to progressively expand the interior of their consciousness, of total humility of the Soul itself as it realized just how small it actually is relative to the totality of Creation, of not feeling that it is actually ready to take on larger tasks by way of that service that are possible within the specific spiritual traditions that the Soul has chosen for itself, of being highly self-critical and self-effacing, and in the beginning to middle part of this stage of inconsistent practice of the methods, techniques, that are part of the spiritual tradition of choice, of always pointing the teachers of their traditions and never themselves.
Some of the hallmarks of the 3rd Stage spiritual include positions within their traditions of choice that have them teaching increasing amounts of people about that tradition in which they themselves are inwardly knowledgeable of which means actual realization versus reciting of various practices. Within this rarely if ever saying the word 'I' in relation to this but, rather, always teaching/ talking about what is possible to know if one dedicates themselves to whatever the practices are of whatever spiritual tradition one is aligned with. As a result, the very nature of the 'energy' that is emitted from such Souls if one of intense magnetism, a magnetism that comes from the inner knowing of the truths of that which they teach, a magnetism that attracts others in progressive amounts of people depending just how far within the 3rd Stage spiritual the Soul is. In the final stages this equals Souls who are on the stage of the world in many cases, or at least that which they teach is.
Such Souls are the very essence of humility, naturally given, naturally empathetic, always forgiving, always encouraging to keep on going in the efforts of one life no matter what. Typically, these Souls attract in increasing degrees all kinds of projection from others who have no idea as to the actual nature, evolutionary, of these Souls because these Souls seem ever enigmatic to Souls of lesser evolutionary capacity.
Some of these Souls have great tasks in life, tasks that have the potential effect of affecting large amounts of people that are defined by the nature of the tasks themselves. And whatever those tasks maybe are never a function of the desires within these types of Souls. The tasks themselves are given to these Souls by other Souls that are even more evolved than these Souls up to an including what we call God itself. This is when the Soul learns the difference between personal will versus Ultimate Will, of cooperating with what needs to be done versus personal likes and dislikes.
(Q)Would these negative projections from others occur only in third spiritual? I ask this as I have had my own share of these projections from others yet, do not consider myself third spiritual.
Also, I'm interested in the ability to remember one's past lives, relative to EA stages as, this monk didn't seem to remember them naturally. So is it correct to conclude that these memories and other abilities that are "transcendental" in nature are not totally dependent on EA level but depend on karmic necessity?
No, projections from others upon another of course occurs to almost all humans. Yet when a Soul reaches this state of evolution is the NATURE of those projections, and the reasons that they are made, that are specific to this state of evolution.
A hallmark of the 3rd stage spiritual as the Soul evolves from the first stages of it to its ultimate realization starts with Souls that are able to remember the specific prior lives that are relevant to the current life being lived. That does not mean all of those lives but a few of them in the beginning. As the Soul progressively evolves they then are able to remember ever more as well as being able to 'see' some specific prior lives of other Souls. In the final stage the Soul is able to remember all it is previous lives as well as all the previous lives of any other Soul.
So if the monk you are considering is not remembering to many of his prior lives, and yet you feel he is in the 3rd stage spiritual, then then would suggest that he is in the very beginning stages of it.
(Q) Thank you, I was under the impression that it was in Spiritual 1 that these memories would become apparent that's why I was a bit confused. I'd also think that there are people who have some memories and are not even in the spiritual stage but have a specific purpose for a specific memory.
What I am not really getting is how a Soul in spiritual 1 can become intoxicated with itself when reaching Spiritual 2 since they feel so small and are but a tiny speck of sand in a big vast beach. I don't understand how the search and identification for ultimate truth and associated spiritual practices can lead to the delusional self of grandeur if the Soul is so focused on truth and natural laws and, has already identified itself as only a vehicle.
Of course it is possible for some Souls to have prior life memories in whatever EA condition they find themselves. And, yes, there are specific reasons that this would occur. However, this is not the general truth but a very limited truth for a very limited amount of humans.
In the 1st Stage spiritual that leads to the 2nd it is the very nature of whatever spiritual methods or techniques that were employed that has now lead to a relative fruition of those methods and techniques. Thus, the Soul now becomes inwardly inflated by progressive degrees of cosmic consciousness as the inner consciousness expands. And it is this very inflation and expansion that the Soul can then delude itself relative to spiritual delusions of grandeur. In this way the Soul can then begin to point to itself because of the inner expansion of its consciousness which is perceiving deeper degrees of cosmic realization as to the nature of the Creation itself. It is like the Soul becomes drunk on itself, intoxicated as its own realizations. Thus patriarchal history become full of these 'spiritual clowns' such as the Claire Prophets, Rajneeshes, etc. Not all Souls that move through the 2nd Stage spiritual become, nor is it required to become, at such a gross level as clowns like that. Yet the over Soul/ego identification with the nature of its inner realizations does occur in some way that then requires some adjustment in order for evolution to proceed. How that occurs of course is unique to each Soul, but occur it does.
(Q)I am confused about the delusion happens in 2nd Stage spiritual, if a Soul determines to be good, and only serve the good in one lifetime, like us learning EA, becoming aware of GOD/LOVE/LIGHT, and consciously desire to go back to GOD. How and why would soul be tricked again in a future lifetime, can't we keep this realization in our memory? Even unconsciously memory that may help us making choice to be good?
(A)Evolution is a very, very long process Wei. As was mentioned before the Soul in the 2nd Stage of Spiritual evolution can delude itself into believing that it is more evolved that it actually is. Within this the momentum reflected in the ongoing desires to separate from the Source Of All Things generates a temptation for the Soul to glorify itself because of degree of evolution that does exist within this stage of evolutionary development. As long as the Soul exists within the world of duality every pure desire, such as the examples you used, is met with its opposite. And that opposite naturally exists and, because of its existence, be fueled by the forces of Evil, Lucifer, itself. Thus, history then becomes full of such Souls as Rajneesh, etc., etc.
Remember the closer any Soul becomes to its Source the very existence of Evil, Lucifer, is threatened. And because of this the closer the Soul becomes close to its Source Evil will do all it can to keep that from happening. Thus, we end up with Souls like Jesus who often said, almost daily, "Satan, get behind me".
Hi Rad, i have a few questions about neptune, SN of neptune.
1 does the lucid dream correlates with elevated levels of melatonin in the brain?
2 Does stiffness condition during sleep (muscles can't relax, squeezing body out of anger/nervous/tring to break free in dreams) correlates to rem behavior disorder, acting out dream? I believe there can be many correlations in a chart, in case of neptune in capricorn 12H squares mars 8H libra, can this condition reflects incapable of acting out anger towards others in this life or past lives, also being over powered by someone caused extreme unsolved anger, thus stiff body during sleep reflects suppressed emotion? And does this same symbol correlates to hysteria in past lifes, if it does, what's the purpose/message from the soul to experience this hysteria/totally lost control emotionally in dream state?
2 Can you talk about why people experiences intense false awakening in general, especially accompany with lucid dream: when realise it's a dream fall right into another dream, sometimes can go as deep as 5-6 level of dreams, feels like my consicousness just want to trick me to stay in dream, why does myself doing this to me?.....In my personal experiences the moment i realise that i'm dreaming, always triggers sleep paralysis with energy attacking me....Does this type of dream reflects certain trauma a soul experienced in past life: trying to escape but never made it, maybe died in this process never realised it's over, so in dream soul is still trying to escape? Also in lucid dream, if i escape successfully, would it bring healing for this certain trauma?
3 If SN of neptune conjunct the planet squares nodes, can this correlates to potential this skipped step can be recovered in this life time, can this mean lessons correlates to this planet is culminating? And can experiences constantly disillusionment if the knowledge correlates to this planet is not comming from the source, not the ultimate truth?
Thanks as always
Wei
Hi Wei,
Hi Rad, i have a few questions about neptune, SN of neptune.
1 does the lucid dream correlates with elevated levels of melatonin in the brain?
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Yes
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2 Does stiffness condition during sleep (muscles can't relax, squeezing body out of anger/nervous/tring to break free in dreams) correlates to rem behavior disorder, acting out dream?
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Yes
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I believe there can be many correlations in a chart, in case of neptune in capricorn 12H squares mars 8H libra, can this condition reflects incapable of acting out anger towards others in this life or past lives, also being over powered by someone caused extreme unsolved anger, thus stiff body during sleep reflects suppressed emotion?
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Yes
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And does this same symbol correlates to hysteria in past lifes, if it does, what's the purpose/message from the soul to experience this hysteria/totally lost control emotionally in dream state?
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Yes, because the Soul has unresolved trauma, ptsd, that comes from the original life in which the Soul created the circumstances that lead to this situation in the first place. Any subsequent life in which the Soul either created the same conditions and/ or did not resolve the within itself the inner causes that created that life in the first place will create the same unresolved trauma that is carried forwards in many ways including manifesting in the dream state in these ways. The intention/ reason for this to keep occurring is for the Soul to determine WHY it created such conditions in the first place. This self knowledge can then be used by the Soul to unlock itself, the causes, reasons for, that then affects every other dynamic within itself: past, present, and into the future.
One of the reasons the Soul can create such dreams in the first place is that for many who have created intense trauma's in other lives is to 'awaken' the Soul to the fact that it has unresolved traumas. In other words, most who have created intense, unresolved, trauma's are not CONSCIOUSLY AWARE of this fact in their normal waking state. The trauma(s) have been repressed for survival reasons. Thus, the Soul manifests these types of dreams that the current life egocentric structure, Moon, becomes aware of over time. The Soul in essence is trying to do something about it in the context of the current life it has created.
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2 Can you talk about why people experiences intense false awakening in general, especially accompany with lucid dream: when realise it's a dream fall right into another dream, sometimes can go as deep as 5-6 level of dreams, feels like my consicousness just want to trick me to stay in dream, why does myself doing this to me?.....In my personal experiences the moment i realise that i'm dreaming, always triggers sleep paralysis with energy attacking me....Does this type of dream reflects certain trauma a soul experienced in past life: trying to escape but never made it, maybe died in this process never realised it's over, so in dream soul is still trying to escape? Also in lucid dream, if i escape successfully, would it bring healing for this certain trauma?
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Again the recycling of such dreams manifesting in the ways you are sharing is to determine the original causes within the Soul that created the circumstances that led to the trauma(s): self knowledge. Until that happens within the Soul all these various affects or states of dreaming will take place: over and over. The escaping can take place within the dream because the Soul of course desired to escape from the original conditions / circumstances that cause the trauma(s) in the first place: unresolved desire manifesting in the act of actual escape in the dream itself. Unless the Soul is able to identify the actual inner causes as to why it created the trauma(s) in the first place the act of dreaming that escape does not mean it is healed. Also your consciousness is not trying to 'trick' you at all. Your consciousness of 'you' are one and the same thing. By identifying what is happening in this way only demonstrates again the trauma(s) that took place: a survival technique of the Soul in the face of circumstantial traumas is to detach from them. So you can see in how you have phrased this how that demonstrates and validates the trauma(s) that you Soul has created.
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3 If SN of neptune conjunct the planet squares nodes, can this correlates to potential this skipped step can be recovered in this life time, can this mean lessons correlates to this planet is culminating?
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Yes to the skipped steps which can only be recovered by inwardly identifying the causes of why the trauma(s) were created in the first place. If so, then yes there can be a culmination.
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And can experiences constantly disillusionment if the knowledge correlates to this planet is not comming from the source, not the ultimate truth?
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The knowledge comes from the Soul.
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JWG shared many stories of his own life with others at different times. One of the stories he shared directly correlates with what you are asking about Wei. He had Mars in Sagittarius in his 2nd conjunct the S.Node of Uranus and the South Node of the Moon which were in his 1st House, these square his Pisces Moon in his 4th, which was ruled by Neptune in Libra in his 11th, and this then squared his 8th House Uranus in Gemini and his North Node of the Moon in his 7th, with the Uranus square his Moon and opposed his 2nd House Mars. Throughout his life he had one reoccurring dream that involved him being 'somewhere' and trying to get back 'home'. In the dream, which mirrored other lifetimes for him, he was always blocked from being to get home from wherever he was. The varieties of the types of dreams that had this core dynamic were many, yet the dynamic was the same. If he woke up out of such dreams he would be in a state of PTSD. This happened throughout his whole life.
God Bless, Rad
Hi Rad,
Thank you so much for your teaching, and thanks for sharing JWG's story, it's very powerful, and i had an experience of synchronicity after reading your reply, when i was wondering what is state of PTSD, then i had this reoccurring dream, woke up in panic（not so good aha moment...）, in my dream i saw blood orange full moon and blue full moon in pair, and there r at least 3 pairs of moon in the sky... when i saw the first full moon i was excited to see the familiar and beautiful scene, when the other moons showed up from clouds, i start to panic/fear/shocking/confused....May i ask if there is a place or another plane this scene really exist (multiple full moon, sun and moon, or triangle, polygon moons appear in the sky at the same time), or is it just my imagination, Or symbolic language? And would you please give me some advice, how to use transit chart to explore meaning of dreams?
Hi Wei,
I don't know if there is a physical place that has the types of Moons you describe. Dreaming them is highly symbolic in any case. The transiting chart correlates to the immediacy of anyone's life: the circumstances the Soul is creating for it's ongoing evolutionary journey. Dreams can occur that reflect the nature of such circumstances that reflects the Soul's need to 'process' these circumstances in the form of dreams.
God Bless, Rad
Thank you Rad!
All,
With the transit of Saturn now in Sagittarius which is squaring transiting Neptune in Pisces, and soon to be the transiting Nodal Axis of the Moon, this is now a perfect time for all of us to examine and reflect on what we actually now to be true, versus what we 'believe' to be true. It is a time to liberate from any and all beliefs, and to replace it with what is actually true in our lives. I am posting below a small article that is going in the brand new Journal Of Evolutionary Astrology that is being created by Cat. If you have any questions about this article please ask them of me. God Bless, Rad
BELIEFS VERSUS THE TRUTH OF SOMETHING
It is important to remember what JWG taught about the nature of beliefs versus that which can be KNOWN to be actually true. That which is actually true does not require any of us to "˜believe' in that which is true because, in fact, it is true. He never taught nor advocated replacing one set, or a specific, belief with another belief. Beliefs by their very nature infer delusions where the delusion is believed in to the point that that delusive belief(s) is judged or considered to be true by a Soul. To simply replace one delusive belief(s) with another is NOT TO EVOLVE AT ALL. It is simply, in evolutionary terms, MARKING TIME.
Of course the biggest beliefs involve the nature of the projected religions created by human beings in which a first or primary cause for existence is that which is called God by most humans. All kinds of philosophies, dogmas, ethics, and moralities are then invented relative to the nature of how God is defined by any individual, or group of individuals who agree to create a consensus judgment about what God is and is not. None of this is based or rooted in the actual, experiential, knowledge that is gained, known, through some very simply natural laws that all Souls can experience and know for themselves. Instead, invented ideas are created that are then projected upon what can only be called the Source Of All Things.
That Source can only be inwardly experienced by the consciousness of the Soul relative to the form that it inhabits. Every form has natural limits that are defined by the form itself. Thus, Soul consciousness in the human form is limited by that form, and that which it can inwardly know about the nature of that which has created it, The Source Of All Things, is also limited by the form itself.
Yet there are inherent truths that can be known by the Soul in human form about that Source relative to very simply natural laws that allow this to be true.
Of course that are many other phenomena in our lives that we "˜believe' to be true versus what is actually true. With the Neptune transit now in Pisces, the transiting Lunar South Node in Pisces with the North Node in Virgo, and with the Saturn transit now in Sagittarius, it is perfect time to take a personal inventory of your life to know that which you believe to be true in your life, versus what is actually true.
For example, do you "˜belive' your partner loves you or do you know it ? Do you believe the sky is blue or do you just know it ? Etc. The point now with these transits is to restructure, Saturn in Sagittarius, your life around that which you know to be actually true, and that which you have believed to be true where that belief is actually delusional in nature: Pisces, Neptune, 12th House archetype. So the real challenge is not to replace one delusional belief that you discover upon reflecting upon your life, Saturn, with another delusive belief. The challenge is to restructure your life, to define it, relative to that which you know to be true: my partner loves me. Allowing yourself to restructure your life, to define it, relative to what is actually true, and then to add to that other truths as you move forwards in your life, will allow you to actually evolve versus marking time.
HOW YOU CAN NATURALLY KNOW THE SOURCE OF ALL THINGS OR GOD
When The Creator Of All Things set in motion the Manifest Creation included in that was for the the consciousness to KNOW it's origin, it's MAKER. In essence, this is actually "˜hard wired' into the Soul by it's Maker.
This natural way is provable and requires no allegiance to any religions, group, or philosophy. It does require a 100% DESIRE in any individualized Soul consciousness to KNOW it's Maker, the Origin of itself.
This natural way is rooted in the Natural Law of cause and affect. It is rooted in the Natural Law of the breath. The inhaling and exhaling breath is analogous too the law of cause and affect: inhale, exhale. Yet there is also a natural interval between the inhaling and exhaling breath. It is this natural interval that then correlates a transcendence of the law of cause and effect: the interval correlating to infinity.
With the breath is still, as Jesus and others said, one's whole being becomes full of Light. And, indeed, it does. As the breath begins to shallow and suspend itself the progressive perception of what has been called the 3rd eye begins. And that is perceived between the eyes, just above then in the forehead area. It is initially perceived as circular outline that progresses into the perception of a circle. The outer circle is gold or yellow, the center of it is a deep blue, and in the middle there will be a white star.
In time the Soul will remember, by BIRTH RIGHT, how to merge with the 3rd eye, the White Star. As this begins progressive perceptions of what can be called true cosmic consciousness begins. The final progression of this lead to the perception of where the Manifest Creation meets the un-manifested Creation. In essence perceiving the very nature of Creation itself.
This is provable and requires no belief at all. It only requires DESIRE TO KNOW THE MAKER OF ONE'S SOUL.
To know this for yourself is very simple. First it is important to sit in such a way that your spine is vertical from the pelvic area up. Then center your entire attention, focused, on the point just above your eyebrows within your consciousness with your eyes closed.
Then on your inhaling breath mentally affirm the number One. On your exhaling breath mentally affirm the number Two.
The key and secret her is one of CONCENTRATION. Keep concentrating on the one and two linked with you inhale and exhale. Of course, in the beginning, the left side of your brain will go nuts with all kinds of thoughts that attempt to undermine this, to distract, to follow. This is why the concentration is the vital key upon the One and Two.
Over time, and with sustained practice, the breath will progressively begin to shallow. As it does so certain inner experiences will begin. For example there will be an inner perception that the external world seems to be going into some kind of earthquake situation. Yet if you open your eyes then the Earth will in fact still be still. What this perception correlates to is a natural shifting in the CENTER OF GRAVITY FOR YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS.
That shifting correlates with a shift from the egocentric center of your consciousness to your Soul itself. This also corresponds to a molecular shift in the density of your body cells. They become lighter, lense dense.
In time this will progress to the initial perception of the 3rd eye which starts with a spinning galaxy that is blue, white, and yellow. In time, as the breath becomes ever more shallow, concentrating ever more on the one two, this will consolidate into the 3rd eye wherein that circle of yellow, blue light is integrated around the white star.
This is when the breath suspends itself because of the concentration upon the One and the Two. This is when the the INTERVAL between breaths occurs. Again, the breath, inhale and exhale, correlates to the world of duality, of cause and affect, of thought/ counter thought. When the breath becomes suspended this natural interval between the inhaling and exhaling breaths is realized. The interval can be understood to be that which correlates with INFINITY: the natural interval between One and Two. The consciousness of the Soul is NOT DEPENDENT UPON THE PHYSICAL FROM THAT IT IS ENCASED WITHIN. THERE IS NOTHING TO FEAR EVENTHOUGH THE EGO OF THE SOUL CAN FEAR "˜LOSING CONTROL' AT THIS POINT.
This is when your Soul will remember, by birth right, how to penetrate or merge with the White Star. Everything that follows from there correlates to progressive perceptions of the the Manifest Creation that will lead the the NATURAL LIMIT of the Soul's consciousness that is encased in the human form. And that limit, again, is when the perception of the Manifested Creation interfaces with the UN-MANIFESTED CREATION. This perception is the perception of Creation itself: God.
In the beginning of this practice it is really important, in fact necessary, for you to allow at least forty five minutes to an hour for it. And to do this consistently as least once a day. Your natural evolutionary capacity will then be the determinant at what pace you go. But, by birth right, is you practice faithfully, Neptune, for as long as it takes this natural process of how to know your Origins, your Maker, God, will in fact take place.
QuoteI am posting the birth charts now of Bernie Sanders, Trump, and the USA. You will notice in the case of Sanders that he is now having an exact Lunar Nodes Return, Trump is having the transiting Lunar Nodes square his natal Lunar Nodes, and the USA chart now has the transiting N.Lunar Node exactly conjunct it's natal Neptune: the lunacy, crisis, manifesting from the Republican party.
Hi Rad,
Which evolutionary stage would you say Bernie Sanders is in?
Thanks
cat
Hi Cat,
The last part of the 3rd Stage Consensus. So too with Hillary Clinton. It is really interesting between these two because her Moon is conjunct Sanders South Node Of the Moon. Within that the Moon for Trump is square her Moon, and Sander's South Node. That becomes ever more interesting when we consider his Moon in Sagittarius, which is conjunct his own S.Node rules his Venus/ Saturn conjunction in Cancer which is conjunct the asteroid Lucifer. All three are in his 12th House. And they also conjunct the USA'S N.Node and it's retrograde Mercury which is opposed it's natal Pluto in Capricorn in the 9th: why he is appealing to all the 'low information' voters .. in other words stupid people who are also racist. These are the one's who don't care about facts: 3rd House, or the actual truth of something..9th House Pluto. They are invested in their delusions which of course then reflects Trump's 12th House Venus, Saturn, and Lucifer conjunction.
The transiting Lunar Nodes are square his natal Nodes, the Saturn transit is not coming up to a conjunction on his S.Node while inconjuncting that Lucifer/Venus/ Saturn conjunction. As the same time those transiting Lunar Nodes are conjunct Sanders S.Node and Clinton's Moon, and the Saturn transit is beginning a square them both. That Saturn transit is also progressively trining Sanders Moon/ Mars in Aries which is also the current Uranus transit: thus his call for a 'political revolution'.
God Bless, Rad
Hi Rad,
Thanks for that. Interesting dynamics here for sure. It seems that in the case of both Sanders and Trump, the political establishment in the form of "the party" is attempting to steal the nomination from each of them. In Sanders case it is in the form of "super delegates" who are for Hillary inspite of Sanders popularity, and on the other side the threat of a brokered convention. It is not so clear who the republican nominee might be, Romney? Rubio? Cruz? Who? But it seems anyone but Trump. I know we have charts for Romney and Cruz somewhere on this mb. Rubio seems to be a lost cause. I've seen some predictions by astrologers concerning the Republican side. One astrologer saying Trump gets the nomination and goes "poof" before the actual election. What "poof" means not being clear. Another stating that Trump gets the nommination, falls sick annd has to drop out and Jeb Bush goes on to be elected POTUS. Jeb Bush???? In any case, this is all very interesting in relation to the current transits and the shift in consciousness that is said to be taking place. With Neptune in Pisces it is easy to imagine different ways this may turn out but difficult to know for sure as the only thing for sure is all the delusion surrounding it all.
Quote from: Rad on Feb 27, 2016, 06:08 AM
Hi Wei,
Hi Rad, i have a few questions about neptune, SN of neptune.
1 does the lucid dream correlates with elevated levels of melatonin in the brain?
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Yes
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Hi Rad, may i ask why after having lucid dream, people will feel exhausted, ie: trying to fly in lucid dream, feels like the soul actually spends lots of energy to control, either to stay in the lucid dream state or to fly, it's not the physical energy, does this correlates to melatonin too, if so, can u share generally how it works?
Thank you!
Hi Wei,
"Hi Rad, may i ask why after having lucid dream, people will feel exhausted, ie: trying to fly in lucid dream, feels like the soul actually spends lots of energy to control, either to stay in the lucid dream state or to fly, it's not the physical energy, does this correlates to melatonin too, if so, can u share generally how it works?"
Yes, this correlates to melatonin. Not sure what you are actually asking by 'how this works'. Melatonin is a hormone that when secreted by the pineal gland affects the entire physical organism. As such, it creates or leads to what you are describing.
God Bless, Rad
Quote from: Rad on Mar 15, 2016, 05:53 AM
Hi Wei,
"Hi Rad, may i ask why after having lucid dream, people will feel exhausted, ie: trying to fly in lucid dream, feels like the soul actually spends lots of energy to control, either to stay in the lucid dream state or to fly, it's not the physical energy, does this correlates to melatonin too, if so, can u share generally how it works?"
Yes, this correlates to melatonin. Not sure what you are actually asking by 'how this works'. Melatonin is a hormone that when secreted by the pineal gland affects the entire physical organism. As such, it creates or leads to what you are describing.
God Bless, Rad
Hi Rad,
Sorry i was confused how to ask the question...
I'll try to make it clear, i guess i want to understand why does lucid dream make people feel exhausted?And how does melatonin correlates to the feeling of controlling, like the mind is really creating something or some movement, and the creating activity actually requires great concentration/effort/energy. That's what i tried to ask how does the melatonin works in lucid dream? And is there a purpose to have lucid dream, why we want to realise it's a dream and try to control the dream, is it message from our souls, to teach us become aware the truth of life is more than physical world? (I know i may still be confused.....)
Thank you
HI Wei,
I simply can't follow what you are saying/ asking. Melatonin correlates the physiology of dreaming in general. it is not specific to the types of dreams a Soul can have. The reaction to what is dreamed in not about melatonin at all. The reaction to the dream, whatever it is, is the Soul, and the dynamics within it. Flying, when in a dream, typically correlates the the Soul coming out of the body during the sleep state. When this happens the physical body is typically in a state of paralysis. So if the Soul then becomes 'awake' it can be almost impossible to move the body for awhile. Some dreams, types of, can of course correlate to some kind of learning about something.
God Bless, Rad
Quote from: Rad on Mar 16, 2016, 05:49 AM
HI Wei,
I simply can't follow what you are saying/ asking. Melatonin correlates the physiology of dreaming in general. it is not specific to the types of dreams a Soul can have. The reaction to what is dreamed in not about melatonin at all. The reaction to the dream, whatever it is, is the Soul, and the dynamics within it. Flying, when in a dream, typically correlates the the Soul coming out of the body during the sleep state. When this happens the physical body is typically in a state of paralysis. So if the Soul then becomes 'awake' it can be almost impossible to move the body for awhile. Some dreams, types of, can of course correlate to some kind of learning about something.
God Bless, Rad
Aha, sorry for the confusion, i misunderstood Melatonin's correlation to dream, what you said is actually what i was trying to understand.
Thank you again!
Hi The Otherside,
With Saturn in Sagittarius squaring Neptune in Pisces and with the North Node of the Moon in Virgo, these issues of what is real and what isn´t real can come up. Focusing on the Virgo North Node, we will need to use our discrimination and be totally honest with ourselves and others relative to whatever circumstances arise in our personal realities. It´s O.K. to be confused or not know what´s true, that becomes the truth... "I don´t know" is honesty at its best sometimes and allows for us to then know the actual truth when the time is right.
"My question is what about when the things you feel to be absolutely true are in fact not true at all?"
Accept the fact, surrender to what simply is, and be open to asking the question: why did I believe in this if it´s not true? The answer will come in time if the question is asked honestly.
"How do we know we are tuning into The Source of all things and not our own ego or even worse being distracted by darker things."
See how it feels in your heart and get out of your head. Analyze your motivations and intentions as honestly as possible (Virgo North Node). Are they motivated by what is best for all, by a desire to know the truth no matter what, or by personal interest to gain something or to hold onto a belief? Again, see how it feels in your heart if your mind is divided.
"I want to make sure I'm living in truth and reality and that I am on the right track, that I am tuning into the right signals and I am staying on course. If anyone wants to shed light here please feel free."
Total honesty, and ask sincerely to be guided by your guides and the Source.
Hope that helps.
All the best
Hi The Otherside,
Thanks for sharing so honestly and deeply. I also have a desire to share with like-minded others. I also feel the same way. Here are some tips that may help. This exercise will help me clarify a few things for myself also. Getting this stuff down on paper is co-operating with the evolutionary forward of the North Node in Virgo - ruled by Mercury.
- Rather than ask for the big answers (Sag), be happy with little insights as they come along. A little (Saturn) goes a long way. A little actual truth versus a huge amount of nonsensical false beliefs will point the way.
- Truth (Sag) reveals itself for you at just the right time (Saturn). We must clear out the old distorted reality before we can build upon a new one. It's like a lazer beam shone into the darkness.
- It can be quite humorous to see the actual truth of something.
- Saturn in Sag is teaching us to build a reality based upon what is real, honest, and actually true.
- Forgive yourself for not having all the answers, and not always getting it right (Virgo).
- Bear in mind the Nodes just quite recently moved into Pisces/Virgo, so we are at the beginning stage of navigating these energies. This process begins with trial and error.
- Realize that what is being generated is coming from your own Soul. Take responsibility for everything that arises and trust in the process.
- Even though you may be suffering quite a lot of disillusionment, it does not mean that life is not beautiful.
- Realize that these things are happening now at the designated correct time: Nodes in Pisces/Virgo.
- Just because things were not what you wished them to be, the desire itself led you to the truth.
- To navigate the Pisces energies, surrender, and let things unfold of their own accord. Grace will always follow disorientation or disillusionment.
- To navigate the Virgo energies (Mercury), quieten the mind, and let the answer reveal itself.
- Sometimes there is no answer - and that itself can be an answer.
- To navigate the Saturnian energies, realize that to create a new reality is a building block process, one brick at a time.
- To navigate the Sagittarian energies, be honest, be the truth, and don't push your idea of truth onto others, as each Soul's path is unique.
- There is so much you CAN do, so much light of truth, resting in tranquility, rather than seeing faults, problems and imperfections all the time.
- Realize there is nothing really wrong: this is just a necessary process.
- It is natural to ask the questions you are asking: a process of Sagittarian expansion.
- The process of Neptunian disillusionment happens to everyone. The Soul can employ this process to get it onto the right track.
- The Saturn in Sagittarius temporary skipped steps require a consistent focus upon the North Node Virgo: a spirit of humility. And perhaps we need to do the work first.
- If you are being called to do something really big, then act upon the whispers coming from Source. What you thought was really big could in fact turn out to be quite small, but nevertheless could have an important and big impact upon your Soul's growth.
- Pisces = big, all encompassing, totality. Virgo = small things. Into the large end of the cone passes a huge amount of big stuff (Pisces), and this narrows down into the small Virgo end of the funnel: revealing sharpness, clarity, focus, x-ray vision.
- Don't trouble yourself too much with these things: let your heart be quiet, satisfied, and peaceful.
- These problems could be just in your mind.
- See the truth of how beautiful life's images and visions can be. That is such a gift.
Hope something above helps!
Linda :)
This may help from Tom Kenyon... here's an excerpt:
"What may surprise you is that some of these challenges will arise in close friendships and intimate relationships. You may find that seemingly insignificant external events can set off tsunamis of emotional responses. There are two primary reasons for this phenomenon. The first has to do with the destabilization of your nervous system making it more prone to losing its center. And the second level has to do with the process of catalytic evolution that you are undergoing as a human being at this point in time.
What we mean by this is what has been hidden is being revealed. The deepest catacombs of your subconscious are being turned over like a plow cutting through a field. This is essentially a very disturbing state to deal with especially for those of you who think of yourselves as spiritual beings. If you are of the opinion that being a spiritual being requires that you always be in a state of bliss and happiness then you will find this purification process deeply disturbing, but it is-quite frankly-required for individual evolution and liberation from the restrictions imposed by your religions and confining histories. It is also necessary for humanity, as a whole, to face and transform its own shadow material (i.e., unresolved emotional issues and destructive belief patterns) if humankind is to survive . . . " *
Remember also, that Chiron in Pisces can be incredibly PAINFUL . . . in our process of disillusionment . . . but within that lies the medicine!
Hope the above helps,
Linda
* tomkenyon.com
Hi The Otherside,
"I do not know if it's appropriate to ask here or not but it would be interesting to me to find out how this energy between the current north node in Virgo south node in Pisces square to Saturn in sag is playing out in other peoples lives? I am specifically asking here because I'm trying to understand this configuration in more detail from an EA point of view."
Currently Jupiter in Virgo is squaring Saturn in Sagittarius and this correlates with testing and defining our beliefs and cosmologies, possibly thru a "crisis in consciousness". This process will be different for everyone, depending on how aligned those beliefs are with actual reality. Relative to the nodal axis in Pisces/Virgo, we are discerning what is true and what is not true and letting go of old beliefs, cosmologies, out dated ideals and illusions, so we can move forward in our intended direction and heal, purify, improve etc. We are moving away from a tendency to delude and victimize ourselves and, as Linda said, need to go STEP by STEP in our healing process of self improvement. The Natal chart will reflect the area we need to consistently develop by looking at which house the transiting North Node is located in.
All the best
All,
As the world has now learned, sadly and shockingly, Donald Trump will now be the Republican nominee for president of America.
I am posting the natal charts of Trump, America, the synastry chart of Trump and America, and the transits chart for when this became known on May 4th. I am posting this in this thread because of the obvious correlations to the transiting Nodal Axis in Pisces/ Virgo.
This became known on May 4th in America. Examine these charts for yourselves to see all the stunning correlations. Above all else examine the fact that Trump has his natal Lucifer conjunct his Venus and Saturn in the 12th. This then conjuncts the Americas Mercury retrograde in the 3rd, and is opposed it's natal Pluto in the 9th. His natal Venus/Saturn/ Lucifer conjunction ignites the natal Mercury retro in Americas chart which then refers to the it's natal Moon in Aquarius in the 10th. This Moon is then conjunct the Americas Lucifer and Pallas which is Trumps natal Ceres, and all of this conjuncts Americas SOUTH NODE OF NEPTUNE.
Within all of this is the role that the Corporate Media, Mercury retro in Cancer in the 3rd ruled by that Aquarius Moon in the 10th conjunct Lucifer, Trumps Saturn/Venus/Lucifer conjunction on that Mercury and opposed as is that Mercury to it's natal Pluto in Capricorn in the 9th, has had in making this happen. For those who live in that country they know it has been 24/7 in terms of the wallpaper effect on their coverage of this Evil. Within that corporate self interest stands their need to make ever larger profits by way of the advertising dollar by doing this. It has been, if nothing else, quite a spectacle to cover. Thus, the means to the end trap door: they make more profits, the end, by way of the means, covering this Evil. But, of course, they will deny all responsibility in so doing: transiting Nodes in Virgo/ Pisces with the Neptune transit in Pisces itself.
The transiting Lucifer on this date is exactly conjunct Trump's natal Mars at 26 Leo in his first, and in Americas 4th House.
The world is witnessing the a manifestation of Evil in the form of Trump, a Soul who had made it's 'Faustian Deal' long before this life. And those that follow this Evil in the form of Trump are impervious to actual reality: they need to 'believe' in absolute delusions at all costs in order to follow this Evil. This evil thus manifest as the archetypal DEMAGOGUE that, sadly, patriarchal reality is full of through time. This archetype appeals to those that are fundamentally stupid, those that can not accept the responsibility of their own lives, who need to feel victimized by 'something', and, thus, need to find scapegoats to blame so they can then vent and attack those scapegoats in order to feel some kind of power within a consciousness that feels powerless.
Sieg heil in all it's forms becomes the result.
God Bless, Rad
Hi Rad,
Has Hillary Clinton also made a "Faustian deal"?
Thank you
All the best
Hi Skywalker,
No. One of the hallmarks of those that do is that they then create a Soul consciousness of a narcissistic psychopath. Clinton is not that.
God Bless, Rad
Rad,
I have to ask, considering that there are many many "Trumps" on this planet yet a very small percentage of people have actually made that deal, what are the reasons or signatures that you see that makes you say that Trump has made that deal in some previous life? Certainly he is full of himself and narcissistic beyond compare, he is consumed and drunk with the desire for money and power, he obviously doesn't care about anyone but himself but so many people are like that? Makes you start questioning everything...
Heather
Hi Heather,
The very nature of his behavior speaks for itself. His Soul will literally do anything to actualize the desires it has for power and wealth. It is the 'anything' that becomes lure through which Lucifer operates, and makes the Faustian deal. And, sure, there certainly are others, the psychology of, like Trump. Yet how many others stand in line to the the possible president of the United States ? The very fact that this is so, a Soul like this buffoon is, can actually be in that position also speaks for itself. There is another 'power' involved that has made this so. The signature in his birth chart that was already pointed out reflects the Faustian deal made previous to the current life.
God Bless, Rad
Thank you Rad,
I was looking at the charts again and one thing that really stood out was Trumps Chiron in Libra conjunct the Americas 5th house Saturn in Libra... The United States willing to give him the opportunity for status and power to make a partnership and contract with him for the actual wound he caries, the deal...
Hi Heather,
That is so true. And look at that country's Chiron in the 11th in Aries, opposed that Saturn. That has been the ongoing transit of Uranus as well: the trauma/ wounding being created by Lucifer through the vehicle of the narcissistic psychopath called Trump. And that is ruled by the Mars in Gemini in the 1st: the absolute lies and duplicity that not only manifest through Trump, but also the very nature of that country's corporate media that I mentioned before. If that country had an honest media the spectacle that is now happening through Trump could not happen. There are of course elements of their media that still try to be honest journalists and reporters who try to confront this evil man. When they do he attacks them just as Lucifer attempts to destroy it's own Creator: what we call 'god'.
God Bless, Rad