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Just a quick question on Dark Moon Lilith - how do you calculate her phase in aspect? Is she considered a stationary point relative to a planet or is the planet involved the stationary point? And how do you measure her aspect phase in relation to the nodes?

-Sabrina

Hi Sabrina


For your information:


Dark Moon Lilith is a real body in the sky, a "˜hypothetical planet' resembling a dust cloud, or a second Moon of Earth. It takes 119 days to orbit the Earth, and spends 10 days in each sign.


Asteroid Lilith is a real asteroid. It is the only Lilith that is a verifiable physical body. Located in the main asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, Asteroid Lilith takes 4.36 years to orbit the Sun.


Black Moon Lilith is not a solid object. It is a mathematical point of alignment, the apogee of the Moon's orbit, furthest away from the Earth. With a 9 year orbit BML spends 9 months in each sign. EA uses the True Apogee for Black Moon Lilith.


Nodes - calculation of phasal relationship

For planets, we always start with the SLOWER moving planet of the two planets or points being considered. And then in a clockwise direction determine the degrees of separation between the two. When using the Nodes, because the mean motion is retrograde, the rule is reversed: using the slower moving point of the two you count in a counter-clockwise direction. When using the Sun, the Sun is always the first point of reference. (Rad)


To be confirmed by Rad:  Since DML is the faster moving body (except for the Moon), then any planet in aspect will be considered the stationary point.


Further question for Rad:  How do we determine the phasal relationship for BML with its orbit around Earth at 9 years?


Thanks,

Linda

Hi Linda,

"To be confirmed by Rad:  Since DML is the faster moving body, then any planet in aspect will be considered the stationary point."

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Yes

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"Further question for Rad:  How do we determine the phasal relationship for BML with its orbit around Earth at 9 years?"

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It is determined in the same way as any phasal relationship. The slower moving of the two being considered is the reference point to determine the degree's of separation between that and any other planet being considered.

God Bless, Rad

Hi Sabrina,


Table of Planetary/Asteroid Speeds

(from fastest to slowest)


Ascendant/Midheaven
Moon                             [Please note the Moon moves faster than Dark Moon Lilith]
Dark Moon Lilith
Mercury
Venus
Mars
Vesta
Asteroid Lilith
Juno
Ceres
Pallas
Lucifer
Amazone, Persephone
Black Moon Lilith
Jupiter
Moon's Nodes
Saturn
Chiron
Uranus
Neptune
Pluto
Sun


Thanks,

Linda

   

Thanks for the list, Linda!

Thanks!

Hi Everyone,


Ooops!  I made a mistake earlier on.


The Moon actually moves faster than Dark Moon Lilith.

The Moon orbit is about a month, while DML takes about 4 months.

I have edited the list with the above correction.


Thanks,

Linda   ;D