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Title: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Feb 15, 2013, 11:49 AM
Hi All,

I have been considering starting a new thread that details how to practice a unique way of interpreting birth charts from an Evolutionary Astrology point of view. Wolf called this the 'planetary method of chart interpretation' that we have recorded workshops on that are for sale, and in the last book edited by his daughter Deva Green that has a chapter called "Essays In Evolutionary Astrology: The Evolutionary Journey Of the Soul".

This method starts of course with the EA paradigm involving Pluto, it's polarity point, the N/S Nodes and the location of their planetary rulers. From that root or baseline the planetary method is then employed in a Virgo like way: one step leading to the next that allows for an understanding as to why a Soul chooses to have whatever planet in whatever sign.

I would like to know how many would be interested in ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING in this thread versus those that simply want to read it here.

So please let me know.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Feb 15, 2013, 10:30 PM
Hi Rad, I am so interested in this. Thank you so much for this opportunity.
With love,
Ari Moshe
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Feb 16, 2013, 03:33 AM
Hi Rad,

Thank you, I'd love to, and if I can manage to rearrange committments I may be able to create the time to participate.

Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Wendy on Feb 16, 2013, 05:53 AM
Hi Rad - I too am interested in actively participating.  I pretty much disappeared on the last opportunity, and have been a bit shy to return.

Thanks for continuing to present more opportunities.

Wendy
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Henrik on Feb 17, 2013, 04:11 AM
Hi Rad.

Thank you Rad for considering to do this. Out of respect, I can only say I will try to commit to this. Also, my depth of understanding is probably very limited in comparison to the other persons I see who have posted interest, but thanks to this messageboard and people behind it feel I'm evolving into a greater understanding...so I hope it's ok to participate.

Al the best,
Henrik
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Kristin on Feb 17, 2013, 12:28 PM
Hi Rad,
What a wonderful idea for a thread to help us practice and deepen our grasp. I would also like to participate in this as well.
Thank you for the generous time you devote to our learning.
Peace,
Kristin
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: mirta on Feb 17, 2013, 12:50 PM
Hi Rad,
I am very interested and grateful for the privilege of participating.
Thank you so much
God Bless
Mirta
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Linda on Feb 17, 2013, 03:35 PM
Hi Rad,
I too would like to actively participate in this thread.
Thank you so much for your generosity and for this
marvelous new opportunity to practise yet again with
such a wonderful group of people.
Love,
Linda
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Feb 18, 2013, 08:30 AM
Hi Upasika, Henrik, Linda, Gonzalo, Kristin, Ari, Wendy, and Mirta...

Ok, we will begin this tomorrow, Tuesday. Looking forwards to working with all of you.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Gray on Feb 19, 2013, 02:05 AM
Rad,
If I can manage my time with my professional teaching, I will contribute to this. Otherwise I will be reading.  Thank you for all of your offerings here. Although I often do not post, when I have the time I take a look at what you are writing about.
blessings,
Gray
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Feb 19, 2013, 10:38 AM
Hi All,

Ok, today we will begin our thread on the Planetary Method Of Chart Interpretation as taught by Wolf. Below is a transcript from a lecture he gave in Denver, Colorado on this subject. This also appears in his last book edited by his daughter Deva Green called "Essays In Evolutionary Astrology: The Evolutionary Journey Of The Soul" that was published a couple of years ago by Wessex Publications. We have been given permission by Deva to post this here. This is copyrighted material.

So I would like all of you to read through this transcript because it contains the entire methodology that we will be working with when we start doing example charts. So please read through it and if you have any questions about it please ask me before we begin our use of this method in our forthcoming chart examples.

God Bless, Rad

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                                               A Planetary Method of Chart Analysis
                                                              Jeffrey Wolf Green
                                                      Astro2000, Denver, CO 2000

     What I'd like to do is try to make this as experiential for you this morning as possible, and the way I would like to do that is for all of you to keep your own particular birth chart in your head now as we go through this specific method so you can apply it immediately to your own case.

     This particular method is very sequential; it is very Virgo like, ABC in nature, leading to a very deductive and Virgo-like analysis. In total, you will then find that once you employ this particular methodology--ABC--this will lead to a Pisces kind of awareness, meaning inductive, wherein you can see the whole first and then immediately grasp all the parts.  So it is like going from Virgo to Pisces. Now as we go through this system, when you have questions, please ask me when you have the question, because the intention is to keep this as clear as possible as we are moving through it.

     So the very first way we want to start the system is, of course, with Pluto. This is number one on your list; meaning as we go through this it is going to be like an outline. So we want to start with Pluto. We can ask a Pluto question: Why? And what we have here from a Plutonian point of view, of course, is the direct connection to the Soul, the Soul itself. Now, of course, if we understand this, the Soul is going to create the overall personality structure in any given life that is uniquely orientated to phenomenal reality in such a way that that unique orientation experiences the phenomenal reality in a way that is consistent with the evolutionary intentions and karmic requirement that the Soul has in any given life.

     So we want to locate the natal position of Pluto first by house and sign. What is this going to be demonstrating? We have to remember that the nature of the Soul linked with time and space reality is simultaneously linked with the principle that we call evolution. Evolution is a dynamic in time and space reality that is beyond debate. The simplest way to know evolution: Is it not true that everybody on this planet, everyone in this room, inwardly always has an inner feeling of being in a continuous state of becoming? Who does not have such a feeling? So you can see right away just through normal life experience that this is a principle, a truth if you will, that applies to all people everywhere as long as we are living in time-space reality.

     Now, if we linked evolution to the principle of the Soul, we ask a logical question: What is, in fact, the inner mechanism or dynamic within the Soul that causes evolution? The answer is straightforward, simple, and basic as most natural truths are. The answer is, in fact, the very same answer that came out of the enlightenment of the famous Buddha under the famous Bodhi tree, when he pondered the nature of sorrow and pain, misery and the like. What was actually promoted in Buddhism terms as Nirvana was based on the awareness within him called desire.

     In each Soul there are two competing and antithetical desires that create evolution. One desire is a separating desire, meaning to separate away from what we can call God. And these sorts of desires are many, myriad, manifesting in typical ways as the desire for the new lover, the new possession, the new career ambition, whatever.  All Souls have these desires, and simultaneous with the desire and coequal to it is the desire to return to that which has created the Soul in the first place.  So, in effect, the essence of the evolution of the Soul is simply based on the progressive elimination (Pluto) of all separating desires to the exclusion of only one desire which can remain, which is to unite with the source of the Soul itself.

     This is a very simple natural truth that operates independent of what we call astrology and can be validated by every single one of us in this room. In fact, it can be validated by everybody on earth.  The simplest way to know it, again: Is not true that we can have whatever separating desire, oh we want this new thing over here, this, that or whatever, and we may have the ability to obtain that which we are desiring, and, of course, we have a momentary sense of satisfaction when we get it. But once we get it, what soon replaces the sense of satisfaction is, in effect, the sense of dissatisfaction, the sense of something more. It is exactly the sense of dissatisfaction that is mirroring and echoing this ultimate desire to return and to reunite with the source of all things. Who of you has not known this to be your own experience? You see, it is universal.

      So the evolution of the Soul is simply based on the progressive elimination of all separating desires. The duality of these antithetical desires is intrinsic within the Soul and is what the psychologists call the basis of free choice.

     Now, when we look at the nature of the natal position of Pluto, we are looking at two simultaneous phenomena, which is why we are starting with this number A on our Virgo list.  Number one, it will describe very succinctly the types of desires that the soul has had prior to the current life, relative to its evolutionary necessities, its evolutionary intentions.  That does not mean, by the way, that that is going to correlate or reflect all the prior lives that the Soul has had. The point is that the soul in any given life will only draw upon specific prior life times that have a direct connection to or bearing on the current life evolutionary intentions. The Sanskrit archetype for that is called Prarabdha Karma.

     So, what the natal position of Pluto is demonstrating is the specific prior lifetimes and orientations that have direct bearing on the current lifetime. A simple example: What if we are dealing with a ninth house Pluto individual?  We can make a very simple Piscean/ Virgo deduction that this would have been a Soul who, prior to the current life, one way or another, was desiring to understand its individual connection to the cosmological reality we call the universe, meaning natural desires to understand philosophy and cosmology and metaphysics, religion (even if that's atheism), anything that is a form of philosophy connected to the cosmos. Are we clear? Good.

     And now what would that mean coming into the current life? And this is one of the secrets about Pluto that most people don't realize, i.e. when you read it in your happy books that it somehow connects to compulsion, obsession, defensiveness, resistance to change and all these things, and these things are accurate, but they never tell you why, and it is because at this point Pluto is going to correlate with the deepest sources of your unconscious sense of security. Keeping in mind that security is a function of self-consistency. Self-consistency is a function of the past, meaning what has come before. Again, how many of you would totally and wholly embrace the experience of absolute insecurity? No takers? Hmm? Ever wonder why we have compulsion, obsession? That's what psychologists call repetitive compulsion.  

     So by looking at the natal position of Pluto (house and sign), beyond the metaphysical point of view, you are describing in anybody's life the sources that correlate with the deepest sense of unconscious security in the person. And in coming into the current life, the person instinctually gravitates to those sources in order to maintain a sense of self-consistency equaling security. Now clearly, if the soul stayed right there, there would, in fact, be no evolution. So this becomes a first point to examine. The next point is to determine how it is that soul is going to grow or evolve in the current life. And the answer very happily is that the next step (evolution) is determined--because we have to remember that we are living in a universe, time/space, that of itself is defined by the law of polarity--by the opposite house and sign of the natal position of Pluto.

     So, following our example of the ninth house, it is, of course, naturally in opposition to the third house. Now, one of the natural problems in the ninth house/Sagittarius/Jupiter archetype is that it correlates, in essence, with the nature of phenomenal reality in total. And it is the ninth house in any chart--Jupiter/Sagittarius, archetypically natural law-- that creates the awareness in the human organism, in each person, that we are in fact connected to something much larger than just the earth itself. It creates the awareness that we are connected to a solar system, universes, and galaxies. And this sort of natural awareness gives rise to the philosophical questions that all human beings ask: What does it all mean? How are we connected to this thing?

     One of the problems of the ninth house is that it will typically orientate to a portion of the overall truth, and then consider that particular portion to be the total truth, which is why we call it the Billy Graham Archetype, meaning the need to convince and convert other people to your particular point of view. Why? In order to feel secure. This is why in this case we are going to have a have a third house polarity.

      Most of us have already realized in our happy books that Gemini correlates with diversity, yes?  Most of us realized,--particularly for those that find yourself to be Gemini--that Gemini is a happy little sign because you put it in a bookstore, for example, and it is going to go around and do what? It is going to read two pages of this and one page of that, and maybe one right over here, but it is thinking that it is reading everything. And this means that it is trying to understand as much as possible relative to the whole phenomenon called creation. So when you have this polarity point to the ninth house Pluto, you can see the obvious evolutionary intention. The intention of the Soul is to evolve beyond the particular portion-part--of the truth that it has already realized. You understand the point?  

     So the Soul is like a computer, and it has its own program and in a typically Plutonian fashion, then, the Soul will actually literally program necessary philosophical confrontations (Pluto), meaning it will attract to itself other individuals that are more philosophically or cosmologically evolved than itself. These people will have the effect of penetrating (Pluto) to the weak link in this person's existing philosophical structure. And by identifying the weak link, well, guess what? That whole structure collapses. And this is induces the Gemini evolutionary intention. Understand the point? I mean we could go on and on, but we only have an hour and a half. So, on our Virgo list we start with Pluto, natal position, polarity point. Any questions on this aspect of it? So, we are clear on this particular point?

     Next step--number B on your Virgo list. We want to, of course, examine the nature of the south node of the moon. Now, why do we want to examine this point? The reason is that the south node of the moon will specifically correlate to the types of egocentric structures that the soul has necessarily created in order to consciously actualize the evolutionary desires or intentions, which have, in fact, preceded the current life.

     That is to say that the moon, the south node of the moon specifically, correlates to what we call the ego. Now take this very seriously because, of course, I realize in astrology land that astrologers can assign the idea or the archetype of the ego to whatever planetary symbolism.  Over the last 10-20 years it has been given to Saturn, Sun or whatever. But in reality in the astrology we do, the ego is specific to the moon. The way you can prove this through natural law is very straightforward. As an example we can understand that the ego is that which correlates with what we can psychologically call a self-image.

     Now, for example, if we make an ego connection to the Sun and we look into the nature of our solar system, of course, the Sun appears to be relatively fixed, does it not? Now, do you feel throughout your life that your own inner self-image has been fixed and constant?  When we compare this to examining the moon and its various phases, you can see the direct link to your own self-image and its evolution. Understand the point?

     So, in effect, the Soul must create a necessary ego to create a self-image of the soul itself. So the south node is the conscious component that the soul generates or creates to actualize the desires that are intrinsic to the soul itself. As a simple example, let's still use our Ninth House Pluto as our example, remembering that the ninth house Pluto is how I want to understand myself in the cosmos, etc. Now when we put the south Node in the seventh house, what are we looking at? We Are looking at a soul who prior to the current life, over a series of recent prior life times, has created egocentric structures that have been actualized through a seventh house archetype. What does it mean?  It's going to mean that the soul has created a series of prior life egos that have been structured in such a way as to initiate a diversity of relationships, (seventh house), who looked like what? Ninth house teacher types. And by initiating this kind of relationships with teacher types, it has been collecting for itself, or attracting to itself, the kind of information that it has desired relative to the ninth house Pluto. You see the link?

     Now, to show you why cookbook astrology is B.S.--I mean wrong--compare this to a ninth house Pluto but put the south node in the first house. You are going to still have the same complex of desires, but what types of personality structure, or egocentric structure has the Soul used that is very different from the seventh house? In the first case you have dependency on an external teacher, but when you put the south node in the first house, in essence, what you now have is a soul who has the same desire structure, but now with this south node in the first house you have an individual who has learned to ask and answer its own questions. You see why cookbook astrology is so wrong?

So in either case you still have a pre-existing orientation to reality. When that ninth house Pluto, south node in the seventh person comes into life she/he will gravitate, as they have prior to the current life, in exactly that way. This is why there is going to be a thing called the north node.  You see the point?  So in this ninth house Pluto/seventh house south node, we have a polarity point in the third house, and we have a north node in the first. So in essence, the north node in this case, the conscious actualization, makes that third house polarity occur, understand my point?  

     What that would actually mean in this life as the person begin to emotionally mature (moon) in the current life, is that it progressively would begin to rebel against external teachers, their message and their voices. Because the intention (north node/first house) is that the person is meant to learn to ask and answer its own questions. This is going to create necessary intellectual, philosophical confrontation with external teacher types. You see?  

     In the second case, the person has been living in happy splendor, all within themselves in a form of narcissism (south node/first house).  You see my point? So now why are we seeing the north node in the seventh house? They must learn to open up and share themselves with other people and in so doing, in opening up to other people, they are going to attract (third house polarity), you see how it works. You apply this to all charts. You start just this way, A, B on your happy list. Questions? So we have got this down now?

     The next step in our happy methodology is then to go to the Sun, by the house and sign of the Sun and the aspects it is making. Why? Because the Sun is going to correlate specifically to how we are integrating and giving purpose and meaning to our current life experience. So in essence we are describing an evolutionary transition in our A B list, an evolutionary transition from past to the current life.  The Sun is now going to show you how that is integrated and given purpose and meaning in the context of the current life. How the Sun in Sagittarius integrates life experience, gives purpose and meaning, is going to be very different from how a Virgo Sun integrates life experience and gives purpose and meaning, you understand my point?  

     So once you get used to these methods you ultimately get to play the role of an evolutionary detective, why this Sun sign? You understand my point? So that is why our next step is to move right to the Sun.  And again I want you to be able to apply this experientially to your own chart, so try to work with that as we move through it so you can see the reality of what we are talking about. So just take a moment right now and think about your own natal Pluto, polarity point, north and south node and your Sun sign. Take a moment, don't ask a question, just take a moment!

Now, how many are completely stumped? Maybe in a moment it will become more clear for you.

Audience: How about if your Pluto is right on the cusp?

Jeffrey: On the cusp?

Audience: Yeah.

Jeffrey: What you have when Pluto is on the cusp is the archetype of initiation, but if you have it just before the cusp of moving into the next house, you have the archetype evolutionarily of culmination--an entire series of prior lives all culminating in the context of the current life.
Audience: But you would still interpret it in terms of the house that it is in?

Jeffrey: Yeah. And see then what you have is as it progressively culminates-when Pluto is evolving into the next house-you still determine the polarity point, which allows for that evolutionary shift. This can by the way, psychologically create frustration, because the Soul already can feel where it is trying to go, but it also has to culminate, so it has this push-- pull, yeah.

Audience: What if Pluto is conjunct the nodes-actually, let's take the north node.

Jeffrey: That's a very unique evolutionary signature.  When you find Pluto conjunct the north node it means in all cases, that that soul has been working in that area of evolutionary development prior to the current life and is meant to completely focus on that area in the context of the current life.  There is no polarity.

Audience: If Pluto and the north node are in the same house but not conjunct, is that the same meaning or not?

Jeffrey: First, you want to determine if the node is balsamic or new phase relative to Pluto, which creates its own archetypical meaning.  And then there used to be an old phrase in astrology (I am going to date myself now) but it used to be called in mundo, meaning conjunct by sign. But unless you have technically an absolute conjunction, then you have a different kind of meaning depending on the phasal relationship between Pluto and the node itself.

     The next step after understanding the integrative principle of the Sun and the purpose and meaning it is giving to life experience in general, our very next step is then to move to the moon itself. Why? The current life moon, the natal moon, and the nodes are going to reflect a spiritual law, the trinity, from the earth point of view the phenomenon of past, present, and future. We have the north and south nodes of the moon and what this is correlating to psychologically is a universal experience we call the dynamic tension that exist in all people between the past and the future, as experienced in each moment of our life.  That's the natal moon in relationship to its nodal axis. We have an evolving ego, i.e. from south node to north node.  How that evolving ego is integrated on a consistent basis (moon) is the natal moon itself by house and sign.

Audience: Could you go over that again?

Jeffrey: We have a thing called the dynamic tension between the past and the future that we all experience, yes? That dynamic tension as experienced in each moment of our life  is contained in your natal moon. How we integrate the potential insecurity linked with our past and our future experienced in the moment is our natal moon.  It creates cohesion, self-consistency, understand? It's that place in you, the dynamic in you, that can say, "This is who I used to be, this is who I am trying to become." That voice is your natal moon; do you understand my point?
Audience: Can you give an example of that?

Jeffrey: All of you in this room know as your life experience that you are in a dynamic state of becoming, yes? You know you have a past; you know you have a feeling to go into--toward--your future, which is the experience of the moment, yes? The experience of these two things in the moment is your moon. How you experience that is your natal moon by its own house and sign.

Audience: Let's say the moon was conjunct one end or the other of the nodal path, for example, the north node, would there be more orientation toward the future than the past and really more conflict about trying to integrate the south node somehow with Pluto?

Jeffrey: Each case is unique and you have to always overlay this with karmic evolutionary requirements. The experience of it depends on the person, including the observed evolutionary state; one size does not fit all. If I had the moon on the south node and I am in consensus state, for example, how I am responding to that inwardly would be vastly different than if I had that moon /south node and I am in, say, an individuated state, or a spiritual state, you see. In all cases you are looking at the phenomenon of something being unresolved in a prior life, at an emotional level, that the person is bringing forward into the current life in order to re experience with the intention of resolving it.  

     If you have moon square the nodes, and really anytime you have a planet square the nodes, including the moon or Pluto, in evolutionary terms you have what are called skipped steps. And in the current context the person has been flip flopping back and forth, back and forth. And in evolutionary terms, karmic requirement, the person must recover those skipped steps in order to evolutionary proceed. Until that recovery is made they are blocked, you see my point now? Are we clear on the methodology as we are proceeding? That's my main intention at the moment, are we clear at the moment? Anybody still not clear? Good!

     Now, another way of looking at this is why we are going to be using the moon in this sequence. The moon is how each of us lives with ourself inwardly on a moment-to-moment basis. It is how we are giving personal form and definition to what we call our reality. It is way for us to make it personally secure. All human beings have a need to feel secure. Of course the issue is what constitutes security.  But the phenomenon of feeling secure is a constant for all human beings. It is like the need to put an anchor in the sea instead of just letting the boat drift where it wants to go. That is your ego. That is your anchor in the sea. That is the anchor into your unconscious. That is the anchor into your soul. Do you understand my point?  

     That is the way for you to personally relate to what your evolutionary intentions are relative to the purpose that is described by the Sun. It is a way for you to live with it, to feel emotionally secure because of it. The house and sign of your moon and the aspects it makes describe how that process is done. It is that simple. Yes?

Audience: I'm sorry, is that the security"¦"¦"¦(Inaudible)"¦"¦"¦"¦

Jeffrey: Yes, this is why we have a triad among Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces. See this is the ultimate meaning when we have the moon linked with Scorpio and Pisces.  We have this natural triad, and very few astrologers will tell you that the ultimate secret of Cancer and the moon is to realize that the moon itself is the source of its own insecurity. This is why it is a Cardinal archetype, two steps forward and one step back. We want to initiate change and we freak out and we want to recover"¦(Inaudible)"¦"¦  

     But the ultimate teaching of the moon is reflected in the dark side of the moon, the side we never see. And the reason that the moon creates its own insecurity is to ultimately realize (Pisces) security from within, linked with an inner reality that has nothing to do with the external environment. When you link this through Scorpio, this is why all of us at various points in our journey misapply our trust into people--in order to experience emotional betrayal, abandonment and loss to enforce inner security. This is why.

Audience: That wouldn't"¦(Inaudible)"¦"¦ It seems to be reinforcing what you developed in the past.
Jeffrey:  No you are not listening; you're not interpreting right. You don't understand reality unless you listen carefully and objectively to the words. What you have just heard is that the ultimate intention of the Cancer/Scorpio triad is to learn absolute state of inner security from within. Now you have heard it rightly.

     The next step in our Virgo sequence is Mercury. Why? Mercury is now going to provide the intellectual structure. Again, we are all living in a phenomenal reality, yes? We started with Pluto, the nodal axis of the moon, Sun, and moon. And now you can see if you look at this evolutionarily, you can see why the Soul (Pluto) was picking Mercury in whatever house, sign and aspect. That's the kind of intellectual structure, meaning how I am going to intellectually organize in rational ways. That is how I explain to myself what my life experience is about, which is ultimately reflecting its evolutionary intention. This is how I give the intellectual super structure to this process. So I create an intellectual structure that creates rational thinking within me that creates an explanation and justification, which I then communicate to other people. This is why you have your specific house and sign of any given Mercury. You understand the point?  

     You see, life is either random, or it is in fact some sort of inherent order, you see? And if we look at it this way, we are looking at life and astrology non-judgmentally. This eliminates all the 19th century crap--exaltations, falls--it is irrelevant. We replace all this terminology with two words: what is. This is why you can have your Mercury in whatever house or sign. It is the way that you need to put it together and understand it intellectually through your left brain. Mercury in astrology specifically relates to the left brain.

Audience: What if Mercury is like right on a house cusp?

Jeffrey: Again, if you always use your ultimate perspective to understand the chart and then use an evolutionary perspective--transitions between past, present, future--then you can answer your own question. Any planet on the cusp is going to correlate evolutionarily either to culmination, meaning the planet just before a given house, or if it is just within that house something has already culminated and a brand new cycle of evolutionary development is now proceeding. So if Mercury happens to be the operative symbol it is simple going to mean a soul who is deciding to think, in this life, in altogether radically different ways than it has ever thought before.

     Ok, next step in our Virgo sequence. Venus, of course, is going to correlate specifically to the nature of the value associations that you make for yourself. Values equal a sense of meaning that you are giving to your life. How many people on earth do you think can live without a sense of meaning? The sense of meaning in life, archetypically through astrology, is specific to Venus. Meaning is specific to that which you value. That which you value is in its own way conditioning or contributing to what you decide to believe. Understand my point?  

So the Soul in any given life must orientate to a specific type of value associations that provide a specific sense of meaning. That now is specifically linked with the evolutionary intentions for the life itself. So here we determine and can see from the point of view of Soul/Pluto why Venus is in this house, and in this sign, making those aspects. Understand now?

      The next step in our happy Virgo sequence is Mars. Some of you have learned in your happy books that Mars is a lower octave of Pluto. And if you have heard this, ask yourself the following question: What is a lower octave of something? See, here is a happy example of cultures like this where we can understand words, but we don't really know what they mean. A lower octave is simply a denser vibration of something. So why  then is Mars a lower octave? The answer is straightforward; again the essence of the Soul's evolution is based on desire. Mars in our subjective consciousness simply instinctually reflects and acts out desires emanating from the Soul itself. This is why you read in the happy books about Aries and Mars and the necessity of freedom. The Soul must have the necessary element, or level, of freedom in this life to initiate experiences that the Soul deems necessary relative to its evolutionary requirements and intentions, understand? 

      How that is done is specific to the house and sign and aspects that Mars is making. Got it? And this is why the necessity of freedom. That is also going to be correlating, by the way, to the necessary kind of sexual experiences. Sexual experiences are like any other experience of life in which the Soul learns about itself. Remember that sexual desires emanate specifically from the point of view of the primary brain. The primary brain in astrology correlates with Pluto, Mars and Moon. We have to understand that the primary brain in and of itself is unconditioned.  It is specific to that which is called natural law. This sets in motion its own potential conflicts and collisions of what we call Will (Mars/Pluto). Meaning, the will of a normal society that is telling you what is right and wrong. What if the kind of sexual desires you have do not conform to your morality telling you this is right and that is wrong? Do you understand what potential conflicts are happening?

      From a patriarchal point of view, linked with the primary brain, this is going to have the archetype that Thomas Moore called Dark Eros. The dark can only be linked, or applied, from the point of view of patriarchal judgment, understand my point? The only time any sexual desire is wrong is when it is linked with an intent to consciously hurt someone, anything other than what is normal and natural.

      Most of you are familiar--most of you are old enough to remember--a series of books written, I think, in the late seventies or early eighties by a woman named Nancy Friday--Women's sexual fantasies, Men's sexual fantasies.  So often you would hear in those books: Well I can have this in my fantasy, but I would never act it out. Now you understand this issue, don't you? 

      So Mars is simply the conscious component that instinctually registers the desires emanating from the unconscious life, Soul. Desires that are specific to the evolutionary needs and requirements of the Soul itself. It requires the necessary freedom in order to act out. 

      So we are still clear on the sequence? You are still trying to apply this to your chart? How many are starting to see your chart in a new way? Good. My point is that if you get used to doing it for yourself, well, guess what? You can do for your clients. Maybe you are beginning to see what this is finally going to lead to, the Piscean leap, called inductive logic, when you see it all at once. I mean you will get to the point where you don't have to spend three hours studying the chart before the client comes, and then you can do it instantly. So, any questions before we move on? Clear enough? Good.

      Next step Jupiter. Following the sequence you can now logically see through your Virgo logic how Jupiter specifically is going to correlate with the types of belief structures that you need to draw upon in order to rationally explain, through your belief structure, the entire process we have described so far. Keeping in mind the nature of belief systems determines how you are interpreting the nature of phenomenal reality.  How you are interpreting this reality comes right back to Mercury, how you are communicating it. From the point of view of brain, of consciousness, Jupiter specifically correlates to your right brain, the intuitive, the non-linear, the image based. There is that exact place in your consciousness that makes you aware, again, that we are connected to something much larger than just the earth. 

      So in effect, from an evolutionary point of view, why are we going to have Jupiter in this house, this sign, and making these aspects? It is the type of belief structure the Soul requires, without judgment, in order to facilitate the entire process of its evolutionary journey and intentions we are describing to this point. Got it? 

      As an example, do you think that a Soul that decided to have Jupiter in Aries is going to happily conform to a Capricorn version of reality? Why not? What is the evolutionary intent of having Jupiter in Aries? You see my point now? I mean they are trying to strike out on their own to think and understand and conceive for themselves. The phenomenon of conception, abstraction, to make abstract, is a Jupiter process.

      It is one of the wonderful things about the great Yogananda. This man happened to have Jupiter in Aries and despite Vedantic tradition, which is essentially patriarchal, the essence of his teachings was all defined around the Divine Mother, not the Divine Father.

      So, the next step in our happy Virgo sequence is Saturn. Here I am going to share a secret with you about Saturn that you are not going to read in any of your happy books. Saturn is the very structural nature of consciousness in general. One of the essential functions of Saturn is to provide a conditioning function. So for example, what if an individual happens to have Saturn in Leo? That means the entire structural definition of that consciousness is defined around a Leonean archetype. And that then means that every other astrological function, Venus, Mercury, Mars, Pluto, etc. is defined and conditioned by, in this case, the Leonean archetype--meaning the principle, the self-creative principle, the inner given right for creative self-actualization.

       Understand this issue? For example, what do you typically read in your happy cookbook when Saturn is squaring Venus? Let's put Saturn in Leo and Venus in Scorpio. The typical cookbook interpretation will tell you what? That this individual will attempt to dominate and control and limit (Scorpio) the creative development of its partner relative to existing inner insecurity. This is wrong. The structural consciousness is defined by Saturn in Leo, so this then means (and to show you the opposite) that this individual is giving itself the right to creatively actualize itself in any way it deems necessary and will necessary have conflict with (Venus in Scorpio) partners who are so insecure that they are trying to undermine its creative self development. The Saturn in Leo defining the structural nature of that consciousness will then mean what? A desire to have partners that were doing the same thing. 

      So you can see the weakness in these stupid cookbooks, because it never made the leap that Saturn is the defining principle in the structural nature of consciousness itself, which is conditioning every other function in that consciousness. Do you see my point now? So, from a point of view of evolution, the happy sequence we have developed we now understand the structural nature of the consciousness that the Soul is creating to facilitate its evolutionary lessons, requirements and intentions.

Yes?

Audience: You are saying that Saturn is the overall structure given to things, the Sun then is more like how we sense things because I was looking at the Sun"¦.

Jeffrey: Sensing is a Venus principle.

Audience: Well, you are saying it correlates to how we integrate our current life experiences. Is integrating, which you are associating with the Sun, different from structuring, which you are associating with Saturn?

Jeffrey: Yes.

Audience: Can you explain that?

Jeffrey: This is a structure (Saturn). How we give purpose and meaning to the structure is the Sun.

Audience: Okay.

Jeffrey: Yes?

Audience: (Looking at a chart) Why do we have Mercury or Venus before we do, for instance, Saturn or Jupiter?

Jeffrey: I just explained that. That's why I am trying to go through this sequence very slowly. And it is a very deliberate sequence, one thing leading to the next thing. This is intentional to create cohesion, deductive analysis, not jumping around.

Jeffrey: Another Question? Yes?

Audience: With Saturn retrograde"¦"¦"¦ inaudible"¦..

Jeffrey: Completely. How would you like to examine that? Saturn retrograde has a very simple meaning; it is a structure of consciousness that is forever redefining and restructuring itself. 

      The problem with Saturn as an archetype intrinsically--this is what you read in the happy books-is the potentiality of crystallization. You have to remember everything is operating through polarity. What is the polarity of Capricorn, i.e. Saturn?  It is the moon and Cancer; it comes right back to security issues.  Particularly as we emotionally mature and get older most people start to want to not grow anymore.  They want to have their Winnebago and their patio tools, "Oh, I am comfortable now I am not growing anymore." There is a typical example of crystallization linked with security.

      If you happen to have Saturn retrograde, you have a structural nature of consciousness that is always restless and will never reach a point in time that says, "Aha! That's it." It wants to forever redefine itself relative to the evolutionary impulse to evolve and to grow.

Audience: How does that relate to all the other planets?

Jeffrey: Then it will have an oblique retrograde function to all the other planetary functions, not direct, oblique. Understand? Direct is like this, oblique is like this. So if I had Saturn retrograde it is having an oblique function to every other planetary function. It doesn't even have to be necessary in a direct aspect.  We are talking about the structural nature of consciousness that is defining every other function.  This is not something you read in some book, but it turns out to be actual reality. I have counseled over 15,000 clients. The essence of astrology is observation and correlation, and I am sharing with you the results of correlation and observation of over 15,000 clients all over the planet, not just America. Yes ma'm?

Audience: So actually having a retrograde planet might not be a negative thing at all?"¦(Inaudible)"¦"¦

Jeffrey: It is not negative or positive. It simply is what it is. A retrograde archetype accelerates growth relative to the Jungian idea of individuation. Think about the symbol (Rx) to rebel, understand my point? To rebel against what? The status quo expectation of how the function defined by retrograde is meant to operate. And by having a rebellion function we have an individuation function, which is accelerating the growth of individuation or evolution through the function that is retrograde.

      Karmically and evolutionary we also have Rx--the need to repeat, or relive something from prior lives that was (retrograde) not resolved. This can create its own kind of frustration. What if I have Venues retrograde in Scorpio linked with my relationship formation?  And I have this need to repeat and relive x amount of intimate liaisons--karmically and evolutionary dictated--and I am now in a fixed pattern of Scorpio.  Meaning all my relationship dynamics, despite my intellectual intention to change it, are fated to be repeated.  Is this not going to create some potential frustration with our partner? Meaning the psychology of no matter what I do, I keep re-attracting the same thing. You see my point? These are things you don't read in the happy books.

Audience: So how do you bring that to an end? How do you stop?

Jeffrey: It is stopped once it is completed. It is completed when you finally see the retrograde symbol going to direct through progression, and not until.

Audience: What about when by progression a planet goes retrograde?

Jeffrey: Then you have entered a timeframe where you are repeating something from the past and/or redefining your overall reality in general, through individuation

     Okay, so now we move into ever-understandable Uranus. From the point of view of Saturn, Saturn is going to describe--for most people--the interfacing between what we are consciously aware of, meaning our subjective consciousness or what we call personality, and the unconscious. It is that natural boundary, or barrier, or threshold. And for most people this is necessary because it goes right back to the idea of the moon, the anchor in the sea, which creates stability. This is also why, by the way, that most people do not have spontaneous natural access to their prior life memories. The point is that if most people had access to their prior life memories, those prior life memories, which are contained by Uranus, would overwhelm the current sense of reality (Saturn) in such a way it would become so consumed (Pluto) with what happened or didn't happen, what went right, what went wrong, we would not get on with the business of this life. That's why there is a necessary boundary (Saturn) that prevents this awareness.  It can only really truly open to the Soul who begins it natural process of evolution back to the Source itself in an active conscious way. Understand my point?   

      So, Uranus correlates in Jungian terminology to what is called the individuated unconscious, or in Freudian terminology to the subconscious. In either case, I don't care about your the terminology, the Uranian element of your consciousness contains three components. You have learned, as an example, that it is a higher octave of Mercury. Mercury correlates with short-term memory. Uranus correlates with long-term memory. This also includes the long-term memories of other lifetimes. Just look at it logically. How many of you can remember in total detail what you did three days ago? Where did those memories go? Aaa, now we are looking at Uranus. So one dimension of Uranus correlates with where all the prior life memories that you have that are contributing to the current life are stored.

      It also correlates to the component of our unconscious, dynamics that Saturn represses: dynamics in ourselves that we are having a problem accepting and, therefore, suppressing. This can also include the nature of trauma that is not resolved and is stuck into the subconscious. And Uranus also correlates to--connects to--what we can call the larger blueprint for the Soul's evolutionary future. This is why we have the principal of liberation. To liberate from what?  Saturn, the existing conditions of our life that can equal what we can euphemistically call our own personal status quo. That equals our own sense of security (moon) equaling the anchor in the sea that has been crystallized. So in effect, Uranus is always knocking on Saturn's door. When you go through an act of a Uranian transit, through linkage, the symbolism is very basic.  That's what we call the hand grenade in a steel box. The steel box is your Saturn; the hand grenade is your Uranus. In the last analysis the hand grenade will prevail.

      As an example, if I make a bomb go off right here, obviously everything is flying about, goes up into the air, fractured. Through the natural laws of returning (gravity), it is meant to come back to the earth, but it comes back in a new way. And that is really the function of Uranus. To remove whatever binding forces in our reality that are preventing necessary evolutionary growth. So whatever house and sign your Uranus is in and the aspects it is making, this is showing you how your own personal liberation in your own Saturnian conditions of your life is necessarily and naturally meant to occur.

      It will also tell you, graphically, what kind of subconscious or unconscious memories the individual has, linked with their own prior life times, which is subconsciously conditioning their approach to their current life. This is where you can play astrological detective yet again. It can also show you the potential of unresolved karma as occurred and still may be operating subconsciously in such a way as to influence the behavior of the current life.

      Now we come to the end of our Virgo sequence, and you can see now we come almost back to Pluto, meaning Neptune. And, of course, Neptune from a patriarchal point of view is called the archetype of transcendence. From the point of view of natural law, it is called the archetype of unity. The patriarchy teaches you that there is something to transcend, which itself is roughly the same as the delusive patriarchal idea that there is a natural conflict between spirit and flesh. That is why you have the word transcendence. This is utter B.S. An obsolete opinion invented by men to subjugate women. Through natural law the correct word of Neptune is union: to unite with the totality of creation, not to transcend it. And it is through absolute union that a natural expansion of consciousness occurs. There is nothing to transcend. And there is nothing to redeem. Despite what you've read in the happy books. That is reinforcing the patriarchy.

      The issue here is that Neptune specifically correlates to the phenomenon of consciousness, in total, every one. Consciousness is very analogous to water. Water in and of itself has no form. Consciousness permeates and is the essence of creation. If I put water into this cup, then the consciousness in that water assumes the shape, form and function of the cup. If I put water /consciousness in human form, it is assuming the function and form of this body. If I put it in this plant, this animal etc., etc.  Form and function is inherently limited--inherently limited,which is why you have read in your astrology books the need to go beyond the perception and experience of limitation. This is the inner action between Pisces and Scorpio.

      Now, to make it very graphic to you, you all have consciousness, and it is all right now in a human body. And I will show you right away the limitation of consciousness in human form. Ready? What created God? You have just reached your limit, which exactly gives rise ultimately to the desire in all Souls to reunite with the source of all things, meaning to dissolve (Neptune) the apparent extinction of the separating form and to realize through union how the appearance of all manifested form is rooted in the original creation point. For you to do this naturally--for you to do this naturally--determine the house and sign of your Neptune and the aspects it is making. This is your own natural way, not according to any book or any teacher, understand the point?  So has this now made a little bit of sense to you this morning? Any last questions? God Bless you and thank you for coming.
   
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Feb 21, 2013, 12:11 PM
Hi Group,

I am now going to post an example chart that we can begin with. When you look at this chart I would like you at first to focus on the the evolutionary paradigm: natal Pluto, it's polarity point, the S.Node and the location of it's planetary ruler, and the N.Node and the location of it's planetary ruler. In our chart example we will analyze it from the point of view of the Soul being well within the 3rd individuated evolutionary state, a male in gender, a born in England to give it the necessary cultural context.

So as we begin our journey with the Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation I would like you to start with a succinct analysis of this charts Pluto, it's polarity point, the S/N Nodes and the location of their planetary rulers. This will then serve as the foundation upon which we will start to add the other planets one by one.

If you have any questions ask them of me now.

God Bless, Rad  
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Henrik on Feb 21, 2013, 01:53 PM
Hi Rad and the rest of the group-

Today I had (for the first time) some sort of anxiety attack. My brother told me, that even though the symptones were not the exact same as for him, that what I had was an panic stress attack, which actually makes sense because I have felt extremely pressured lately. It felt like my chest was involuting itself repeteadly for about 10 seconds and the resulting schock to my system lasted for about 90 minutes (mostly like a feeling of feeling very weak and a litle bit dissy). I will try to participate, but just wanted you to know Rad that I might not be able to post anything at this time.

God/ess Bless,
Henrik
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Feb 23, 2013, 05:45 AM
Hi Rad,

Here is what I have come up with ...

Pluto in Pisces 3rd
SN in Taurus 5th (ruler Venus in Aries 3rd)
NN in Scorpio 11th (ruler Pluto)


Background
Pluto was in Pisces from approx 1800 - 1824. Thus this soul has been born into a generation when Britain became the world's first industrial society. It also became the first urban society. By 1851 more than half the population lived in towns, and the population was rapidly rising. In the early 19th century Britain was ruled by an elite. Only a small minority of men (and no women) were allowed to vote and at least 80% of the population was working class. Families were much larger than today, partly because infant mortality was high.

Organised religion was much more important in the 19th century than it is today. During the early 19th century religious revival continued. The Church of England regained its energy and many new churches were built. In the 19th century the 'modern' Christmas evolved (before then Christmas wasn't especially important. It was one of only many festivals celebrated during the year). All the same during the 19th century many poor workers had little or no contact with the church. In 1865 William and Catherine Booth founded a new movement to reach the poor and fight a 'war' against poverty. In 1878 it was named the Salvation Army.

During the 19th century the factory system gradually replaced the system of people working in their own homes or in small workshops. In England the textile industry was the first to be transformed which caused a great deal of suffering to poor people. The Industrial Revolution created a huge demand for female and child labour. Conditions in coalmines were often terrible & children as young as 5 worked underground.

Conditions in early 19th century towns were often dreadful - dirty, unsanitary and overcrowded. The worst thing about poverty in the 19th century was the callous attitude of many people. Many of them believed in 'self-help'. That is, they thought society should be comprised of exclusively self-reliant members who never needed help from anyone else. They also believed that anyone could become successful through sheer hard work and thrift. Logically that meant that if you were poor it was entirely your fault, regardless of natural occuring hardship or suffering caused by exploitation. Many people in the 19th century (not all) felt that the poor were to blame for their own poverty. At the end of the 19th century more than 25% of the population was living at or below subsistence level. If you had no income at all you had to enter the workhouse. The workhouses were feared and hated by the poor. They were meant to be as unpleasant as possible to deter poor people from asking the state for help. Before the 20th century dire poverty was accepted as a fact of life.

The well-off lived in very comfortable houses in the 1800s, skilled workers lived in humble houses, and the poor lived in dormitory type shacks or cellars. Until medicine and surgery made great advances in the later half of the 19th century, disease and illness were a constant threat. In the 1830's there were large outbreaks of infectious diseases such as cholera and typhus. Life expectancy was 17 years for a worker, 38 years for a professional/craftsperson/farmer, and 52 years for someone from the higher class. The average in 1810 was 20 years, so our native may not have lived very long.

Strict moral values involving modesty and gender roles were developed. Advances in railways and postal services joined communites into larger social networks, uniting all of England.

The manifestation of Pluto in PIsces on a generational level was varied, but centered around unifying concepts, vivid and expansive artistic and practical imagination. While Pluto passed through Pisces tremendous cultural and artistic change occurred in Britain & Europe. This was a period of great flowering in the Arts when the Romantic Movement took place. Revolutionary artists expressed a departure from old romantic and medieval forms to accelerate a cultural and artistic consciousness. There were generally also transformations through large social and collective movements in industry, science and government, with big strides made in humanistic viewpoints resulting in firstly mass expoitation, then gradually compassionate changes and social protections for the vulnerable and downtrodden.

Thus through romantic, idealistic, imaginative, compassionate, creative and unifying endeavours Pluto in Pisces individuals helped bring (relatively) more wholeness into society ....  e.g.  Victor Hugo, Edgar Allan Poe, Byron, Shelley and Keats (all romantic poets) ,Chopin, Richard Wagner, Beethoven (romantic composers), Constable (romantic painter), Fyodor Dostoyevsky (humanist/existentialist),  Shakespeare, Charles Dickens, Emily Brontë (playwrights, novelists),  Florence Nightingale (nurse), Louis Vuitton (fashion designer), Louis Pasteur, Charles Darwin, Galileo Galilei (scientists), Henry David Thoreau (justice campaigner), Abraham Lincoln (president).

Analysis
It largely depends on what social class or station this Soul was born into to determine how he would have reacted to his environment and expressed himself. However generically speaking we know he will probably share with his generation an appreciation for art in some form, an imaginative approach to life in general,  and a deep and most likely unconscious urge for wholeness. Along with this possibilties for lonliness and escapism (eg through alcohol, fantasy), deceitful/cowardly actions, victimisation and self defeating behaviour (Pluto in PIsces). Being 3rd individuated he may also have felt to align himself with a more innovative form of religion than the standard Christianity of the times, finding it boring, and focused instead on something like the Salvation Army.

Pluto in PIsces may have made people of the times somewhat obessive about their beliefs, which they would have clung to in order to feel some kind of deep self definition or identity. In this Soul's case that would have been doubly reinforced due to Pluto being in the 3rd house. The bottom line for this individual (as far as emotional security went) would have been his ideas, concepts and mental structures - creating them and ordering them, and then referring to them. Due to the mutable nature of the 3rd house there would be a ever restless attraction for experiences of a varied and diverse nature to keep creating the material to add to his current point of view at any point in time. Doing so would ensure his perception of and feeling of security - which would be based in logically understanding his environment and his relationship to it, and his relationships with family, friends and others he dealt with on a regular basis.

At certain times however he would cyclically feel repelled by these new experience regardless of what they were eg. conversations, relating, outings, reading/writing etc. because the new information it would create that he would need to process would sooner or later undermine the current stability of his ideas and the connections between them, threatening his security. At these times he would need to let go and start trusting in  nature, and allow his mind to function from the right hemisphere instead of the left i.e to let go of his painstakingly created view of reality, and simply see reality for what it was - i.e intuitively see the truth of the matter (PPP in 9th). He would be able to do that by letting his ability for emotional objectification balance his thinking process (NN Scorpio 11th, NN ruler Pluto in 3rd).

His ideas however would have been very creative in nature (SN 5th) and he probably earnt a living from them (SN Taurus). His instinctive way of expressing these ideas, probably through writing, would have appealed because of its originality (Venus Ar 3rd). He would have been an independant person who decided what was valuable and important by thinking for himself (Venus Ar 3rd). However, he would be inclined to be constantly organising his observations (Pluto 3rd), of which there would be a constant supply (Venus, SN ruler in 3rd). Given his PPP being in the 9th he would be interested in natural subjects and activities in life, and probably preferred to be outside on a regular basis. He would tend to be a very inquisitive and curious person (Pluto 3rd, SN 5th, SN ruler in 3rd) and a good learner, maybe even a scholar. But his interests in the current life would be drawn to things that gave him a sense of power, that were hidden or needed to be investigated (NN Scorpio), and examined (NN ruler and SN ruler both in 3rd) with an eye to understanding them better (NN Scorpio, PPP in 9th) and finally classifying his perceptions (Pluto Pisces in 3rd) to cement (PPP in Virgo) his new understandings (PPP in 9th).

This person would have have had an extremely activated and highly creative mind (Pluto in 3rd, SN in 5th, SN ruler in 3rd, NN in 11th, PPP in Virgo in 9th) with a powerful subconscious feeling nature (Pluto in Pisces, NN in Scorpio). Because they were well into the Individuated state they would have inevitably wanted to use this mind somehow to better society, it would have been to them a way of expressing (SN 5th) their uniqueness (NN in 11th), and transforming (NN Scorpio) the constant observations and ideas they experienced (Pluto Pisces 3rd, SN ruler 3rd) into higher knowledge (PPP 9th) for the betterment of society (PPP in Virgo). He'd instinctively want to do this in his own way (SN ruler Venus in Aries), by listening to his own ideas (SN in Taurus, ruler in 3rd). With the septile between Pluto and the SN he'd have been born knowing he had a special destiny to fulfill, and with SN in the 5th he would have tried many different things until he discovered what it was. It was always something that had the potential to affect society strongly (NN in 11th in Scorpio), that perhaps would creatively (SN in 5th) change the relationship (Pluto 3rd) between social understanding and nature in some way (PPP in Virgo in 9th).

With Pluto trine his PPP With SN trine his PPP (and Uranus which conjuncts his NN also sextile it) he would have somehow already had a taste of this potential in previous lives, and be born with a strong desire to "get on with his life". Yet with Venus in Aries (SN ruler) gibbous inconjunct the NN in 11th there would have been difficulties, at least initially in his life, in identifying just what this work actually was, or how to go about it. However being 3rd individuated, with Pluto trine NN, and Pluto being the ruler of the NN, plus the NN septile PPP, he would have felt he was born to do this work and that it was very special in some way, and assuming he was able to listen to what others had to teach him (SN ruler Venus in 3rd) he would have been led by others more powerful or better placed than he was (NN in 11th in Scorpio) to his special destiny.

This was his potential anyway. However it would have depended on what social conditions he was born into. Due to his being an advanced 3rd individuated Soul he probably would have chosen a family with social influence and means, but this is pure speculation. If he was born into the 80% that were in the working class he wouldn't have had a chance, and his destiny would have played out in small daily matters that were probably of little consequence.

Thankyou for this wonderful opportunity to practise and learn with you.

blessings
Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Feb 23, 2013, 10:06 AM
Hi Upasika,

Thanks for making this wonderful effort so far. And thanks too for providing the cultural context of the time this Soul was born into. And, because of that, you are so right in pointing out the specific nature of the family of birth for this Soul: the economic conditions. Since you have rightly pointed this out let's say for all others doing work on this thread that this Soul was born into the 20% that had the economic means to discover, actualize, themselves in a more or less independent way.

Also you wrote this: "With Pluto trine his PPP he"... of course you meant trine the Soul's N.Node and Uranus as well .........

Excellent EA work thus far Upasika ...

God Bless, Rad

Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Feb 23, 2013, 10:14 AM
Quote from: Henrik on Feb 21, 2013, 01:53 PM
Hi Rad and the rest of the group-

Today I had (for the first time) some sort of anxiety attack. My brother told me, that even though the symptones were not the exact same as for him, that what I had was an panic stress attack, which actually makes sense because I have felt extremely pressured lately. It felt like my chest was involuting itself repeteadly for about 10 seconds and the resulting schock to my system lasted for about 90 minutes (mostly like a feeling of feeling very weak and a litle bit dissy). I will try to participate, but just wanted you to know Rad that I might not be able to post anything at this time.

God/ess Bless,
Henrik

****

Hi Henrik,

Sounds like you may have angina happening. Thanks for letting us know and certainly hope all settles down for you. Please keep us informed as you can as all of us here care about you Henrik.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Feb 23, 2013, 04:05 PM
Quote from: Rad on Feb 23, 2013, 10:06 AM
Also you wrote this: "With Pluto trine his PPP he"... of course you meant trine the Soul's N.Node and Uranus as well .........

Sorry Rad, exactly right, I did mean that (PPP is by definition always an opposition) - I've corrected it.

thanks
Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Kristin on Feb 25, 2013, 12:47 PM
The Messenger!


Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd House

With Pluto in the 3rd in Pisces, this is a soul with a wild and vivid imagination, one who has experimented with various thoughts and ideas over time and who has collected vast combinations of information for lifetimes that his mind is now putting together in his final chapter of this series in his Soul book, ruler of his 3rd house Pluto in Pisces is Neptune in Sag in the 12th balsalmic to Saturn whose mind in ways transcends usual limits and who is able to travel to far away dimensions with his thoughts, where there are no borders or boundaries. He would find comfort and security in these inner travels as the ongoing mystery sent him searching for answers to some of life's biggest questions. He would have been a Soul who would forever be asking questions such as, "Why life, why death, why this way and not that?"  He would question pre-exiting beliefs and would have an investigative nature, challenging conventional thought. He would want to know how the WHOLE of the NATURAL world connected, Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd, ruler Neptune in Sag in the 12th. He is a Soul who would always be searching and seeking answers to the bigger picture questions and have a spiritual/cosmological focus or bent with respect to his inner ponderings with Pluto being in Pisces, also New Phase conjunct Jupiter in Pisces as well as being balsalmic to Mercury in Pisces. He had a natural need to explore many avenues, to consider all things before coming up with his bottom line blue print. He was a natural Philosopher, Pluto in the 3rd in Pisces conjunct Jupiter, ruler Neptune in Sag in the 12th conjunct Saturn in Sag.

He would make for a wonderful storyteller, a Soul who is naturally idealistic and hopeful and who perhaps at a younger age might exaggerate or fabricate the truth in his storytelling in order to stimulate interest and intrigue. The man Jesus had a stellium in Pisces in the 3rd, obviously at a different stage of evolution, but he was known to speak in parables and metaphors, he would speak in ways that dissolved the limits of words, where there were no lines or limitations within where the meaning of his message could be found. The emotional, spiritual and cosmological message in his teachings went far beyond what the mind could access to the point of penetrating other systems allowing for a greater understanding to permeate the consciousness. I feel this Soul would have had similar capacities to grasp concepts and realms of awareness, and to integrate his own understanding of the larger dimensions and intricacies in life and it was this life and this stage of his evolution which brought him to a key evolutionary gate, well into the 3rd stage individuated where he would need to take what he has observed and proven for himself and convince the world at large.


South Node in Taurus in the 5th, ruler Venus in Aries in the 3rd


Fortunately for him, he was born into a family, South Node in Taurus in the 5th, who had the resources and the financial wherewithal to allow him the freedom to actualize his ideas. He would have had the luxury for formal education and for whatever he needed to explore his intellectual instinct. The discoveries that this Soul may have had would have been linked in some way to land, and land formations, landscapes and life on earth as we know it, someone who studies our literal survival, South node in Taurus, and with the North Node in Scorpio in the 11th, this literally translates into the scientist studying the evolution of our species. He would have far reaching potential to share this information and findings with others and also to become well known and ultimately famous for his research. Pluto in the 3rd in Pisces, ruler Neptune in Sag balsalmic to Saturn in Pisces in the 12th. Also South Node in the 5th in combination connects with being well known and fame.

His Soul's greatest hurdle would be experienced when addressing his own fixed beliefs perhaps due to being spoon fed via certain religions from the past, South Node in Taurus in the 5th inconjunct his Neptune and Saturn balsalmic in Sag in the 12th house. He may have initiated some of these intellectual uncoverings in the past and could have been locked up for it or labeled crazy. There very well may have been harsh persecution and punishment for something he could see and very well prove but others simply did not have capacity to grasp for themselves or because his beliefs and findings challenged a world of security for consensus thinkers. Pluto in the 3rd, ruler Neptune in Sag in the 12th balsalmic conjunction to Saturn, it went far beyond where they felt it safe to go. Because of having lifetimes where he attempted to bring this forward and being locked up for it or silenced, Mercury in Pisces balsmalmic to Pluto square Neptune and Saturn in the 12th in Sag. He would have hidden from his truth, perhaps even hidden withing the church, or denied these truths in certain lives in order for his own survival to be allowed. He must now access the courage to bring this forward and to confront mainstream society once his observations were put in writing, regardless of the consequences. The ruler of his South Node in Taurus is Venus in Aries in the 3rd and is conjunct his North Node of Venus as well as his North Node of Mars,  the courage to speak and to write the truth of what he has discovered and is inconjunct the North Node and Uranus in Scorpio, ruler Pluto in the 3rd in Pisces.  You can see this old fear for his family's survival as a result of patriarchal out lash of what he might spearhead, publish or pursue with the South Node in Taurus in the 5th inconjunct Saturn/Neptune in the 12th, with the ruler of South Node, Venus in Aries in the 3rd, the ruler Mars is in Libra in the 10th and squares a second house moon in Cap.

Being that he was born during a time in England when the thrust of church and organized religion was paramount for society's sense of stability, he no doubt would have been heavily influenced by the traditions of the church for lifetimes well before this as well seen with the ruler of his Pluto in Pisces, Neptune, balasmic to Saturn in his 12th house. He may have even had lifetimes in the church as a clergyman or priest, studying various religious texts to prepare him for this life. His South Node in Taurus suggests monastic lives possibly also lifetimes as a monk, South Node in Taurus in the 5th, ruler Venus in Aries in the 3rd. The monk past may also be seen with Aries on the 5th house cusp where his South Node sits, ruler Mars in Libra in the 10th squaring a second house Moon in Cap. Also Pluto in the 3rd in Pisces, balsamic to Mercury in Pisces, ruler Neptune balsalmic to Saturn in the 12th. Certainly he would be born through a family where religion was deeply embedded seen in some of those same signatures. He would naturally have spiritual stirrings with Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd ruler Neptune in Sag in the 12th but his Soul's mission would be to challenge consensus religion and the limits within this mind set. Also this disillusionment of the idea of a perfect God that he would personally experience as a result of his research and practical proving, natural discoveries were made that would challenge the texts written about this miracle maker. This evolutionary crossover from his spiritual intellect to following his natural intuition can be seen with Mercury balsalmic to Pluto in Pisces on one side and Jupiter New Phase to Pluto in Pisces on the other, in the 3rd house. This would be the life where this great leap would be made.

He is a Soul who is so far advanced intellectually that he would always feel like an outcast or an alien, always miles ahead of the current way of thinking which is seen with Uranus on the cusp of his 3rd house where Pluto sits but also the ruler Uranus, being conjunct the North Node in Scorpio in the 11th house. But what he has always inwardly known and has to come to terms with through his own observations of natural law is that God has written the truth within these laws of nature. Pluto in the 3rd, ruler Neptune in Sag making a balsalmic conjunction to Saturn in Sag, truths that do not require beliefs, there was proof in the observations. Aquarius on the 3rd house cusp where Pluto resides, ruler Uranus in Scorpio conjunct the North Node in the 11th. Whereby this life he would need to confront these perceived limits in himself and then be a voice, as in a Messenger for others so they too can confront their own limits, and extend beyond where they have been, to consider something that may at first appear radical and even outrageous. Again, Aquarius sits on his 3rd house cusp where Pluto in Pisces resides, the ruler Uranus in conjunct his NN in Scorpio. His work had the potential to be that light of understanding for others, so they can then move forward in their life with clarity versus staying deep in the dark of denial.  

This life would demand that he confront certain ideals that are linked with his prior understanding of God and he would ultimately become terribly disillusioned by this hope when coming to terms with the reality that life for the Soul does have limits, Pluto making a disseminating square to Saturn and Neptune in Sag and those true limits are experienced with the reality of death where no one can be saved by a miracle or their own imagination. It would require a certain sort of cataclysm or Soul shock to strip away any of his those lingering fixed clingings regarding his beliefs, South Node in Taurus in the 5th, North Node in Scorpio in the 11th conjunct Uranus, ruler of his 3rd house where Pluto resides. There is heartache shown in this chart linked with his children and their own survival seen with South Node in Taurus in the 5th, ruler Venus in Aries in the 3rd inconjunct the North Node and Uranus in Scorpio, Uranus, being the ruler of the house where Pluto sits as well as Venus, the ruler of his South node. This may have been caused due to weakened immune system. Pisces/Neptune and no amount of prayer or readily available miracle could save them. It was a time when viruses were mutating quickly and medicine had not reached the advanced stages to save the immuno- compromised. You can see with the 3rd house stellium that he also may have gotten swept away by the grief and been having hallucinations or visions of his dead child(ren)communicating with the other side. This life would have forced him to confront his darkness which equals his own limits and inability to save what he loved the most, to understand and to live the concept firsthand, the survival of the fittest.


This would be a life however where the traditional journey would end, Uranus, the ruler of his 3rd house cusp where Pluto resides is not only conjunct his North Node in Scorpio, it is STATION.  Also Pluto in Pisces, ruler Neptune in Sag balsalmic to Saturn in Sag in the 12th.This Soul would go beyond what is written in formal texts such as the bible and bring a radically new yet natural ancient teaching to this world. This seems as if it would create great inner torture as he undoubtedly tried this before and great trauma resulted. These traditional tests that once may have provided him great comfort and offered the same to most people of that time, yet he knew that whatever it was that he must bring forth could potentially shock the world, blowing them away, forcing all humans to bring analytical and cosmological attention to their own beliefs, to pull the rug out from underneath their own perceived sense of security.

Pluto Polarity in Virgo in the 9th, North Node in Scorpio in the 11th, ruler Pluto in the 3rd in Pisces


He desired to prove where the roof of religion stops and a vast new understanding of existence extends. His beliefs enforced others to look at themselves and to self examine what is broken in their belief structure with the Pluto Polarity Point being in Virgo in the 9th. This includes the need to eliminate all things that do not feel inherently true. This Soul in his life was in the process of eliminating all the gathered information and ideas that he may have learned and collected from other proclaimed thought leaders or books, that for him did not add up, he would purge and discard all that did not naturally feel true or contribute to his version of truth. He may have had a teacher, Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd conjunct his Pluto, that he shared similar beliefs with yet needed to break away from and pioneer his own work. Venus, the ruler of the South Node in the 5th in Taurus, is in Aries in the 3rd and it trines his Neptune and Saturn in Sagittarius. Jupiter in Pisces is in a new phase to Venus in Aries, a teacher he may have known for lifetimes where they connected with similar ideas and beliefs, perhaps traveled the world together Jupiter in the 3rd, yet the connection culminating in this life so this Soul can speed off ahead, North Node in Scorpio in the 11th conjunct Uranus. He chanelled all he had come to understand and funneled into a body of work that was able to peirce through all the illusions and pre-conceived ideas of others in history, Pluto Polarity in Virgo in the 9th.

His discoveries however created great fear in him, in particular how they would be received and how it would effect his family, Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd, squaring ruler Neptune and Saturn in Sag in the 12th. Would he locked up or killed for it? Would the projections of patriarchal beliefs/thinking of the time destroy his family? Also this Saturn is the ruler of his 2nd house Moon in Cap which squares Mars in Libra. knowing that to the world this would be received as radical and outrageous to the typical mind. Aquarius on the 3rd house cusp where his Pluto in Pisces sits, ruler Uranus in Scorpio conjunct his North Node. This suggests the anxiety and stress that came with these observations of natural laws as part of the price paid for this intellectual giant who was able to synthesize this knowledge and bring something so succinctly and powerfully to the planet. Scorpio as an archetype instinctually wants to take everything in life to the extreme. To challenge any and all perceived limits and a Soul who never set limits for himself. This seen with the ruler of his 3rd house cusp, Uranus in Scorpio in the 11th, conjunct the North Node in Scorpio, remembering that Pluto is the ruler for Scorpio in the 3rd in Pisces this suggests this Soul has the capacity for his ideas to become revolutionary, to transcend and blow past anything anyone has ever conjured up. That even upon his death Scorpio, and for generations following, his model and ground breaking work will have a way of continuing to challenge consensus minds, pushing the limits of those who dared to look deeply for this truth themselves.


North Node in the 11th, especially in Scorpio, with Uranus conjunct this North Node, for a 3rd stage individuated this takes the Soul to a penetrating extreme and equals a Soul who has come here to remove whatever binding forces in our society that exist that are preventing necessary growth and evolution. As Jeffrey wrote so poignantly "Uranus is always knocking on Saturn's door" and this Soul's intention was to bust a Saturn door down that was holding a history of false beliefs. Disillusionment, as this Soul already found for himself, will one day be the experience of many who insist on clinging to rigid religious ways.

This Soul undoubtedly  felt a weighing sense of duty and responsibility for all he had collected over lifetimes, Saturn balsalmic to Neptune, Pluto's ruler, in the 12th that he must risk it all for these ideas and findings, ruler of his South Node in Taurus is Venus in Aries also conjunct his North Node of Venus as well as North Node of Mars, the ruler, and is inconjnuct his North Node and Uranus in Scorpio, to risk dying for these ideas. Pluto in the 3rd in Pisces, ruler Neptune in Sag making a balsalmic conjunction to Saturn in the 12th, this is the final curtain, truly a fated chart, North Node in Scorpio in the 11th conjunct stationary Uranus, ruler of the 3rd house cusp where Pluto resides. Also Neptune, the ruler of his Pluto is making a balasmic conjunctions to Saturn in the 12th in Sag to bring these observational teachings of natural law and order, these truths out into the known, a "freedom from the known" and the revelations of truth with proof, Scorpio, of science to substantiate these findings which can be witnessed and proven by all via natural observation, Uranus in Scorpio conjunct the North Node, ruler Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd conjunct Jupiter, ruler Neptune in Sag conjunct Saturn in Sag. His work brought and continues to bring the mental walls down, allowing for global transformation and the evolution of consciousness.

This Soul would die knowing his voyage here shook the world!

Peace,
Kristin
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Post by: Rad on Feb 26, 2013, 08:34 AM
Hi Kristin,

Simply exceptional EA work thus far on the chart we are working with. Thanks for making the effort you have. This is how EA is meant to be done.

God Bless, Rad

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Post by: Rad on Feb 26, 2013, 08:36 AM
HI Group,

Please let me know how many of you are still planning to do work with the example chart provided relative to the Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Wendy on Feb 26, 2013, 11:22 AM
Hi Rad,

I've been working everyday and will need until the weekend to post.  If the group continues forward, I will catch up.  Thanks.
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Post by: mirta on Feb 26, 2013, 11:28 AM
Hi Rad
I began working, but very busy this week I will be able to post this weekend. If it is too late I could post it together with the next step,  if you accept it.
Thank you
God Bless
Mirta
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Post by: ari moshe on Feb 26, 2013, 04:47 PM
Hi Rad, I'll be able to post here by early next week.
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Post by: Linda on Feb 27, 2013, 02:28 AM
Hi Rad,
I have been working steadily,
and will post this weekend.
Thanks,
Linda
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Post by: Henrik on Feb 27, 2013, 02:56 PM
Thank you Rad.

Thank you also Upasika and Kristin for your amazing postings on this topic. I realize that the value is in the effort, but I still feel that because of your efforts I can learn as well...

I hope I can jump in at some point.

God/ess bless,
Henrik
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Post by: Rad on Feb 28, 2013, 10:53 AM
Hi Gonzalo,

Thanks for your excellent and exhaustive EA work on the EA paradigm in this chart thus far. This is how EA is meant to be understood and practiced.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: mirta on Mar 03, 2013, 01:00 PM
Hi Rad and Group,
Thanks for your deep and creative analysis.

Some thoughts about the core evolutionary dynamic of this chart:

Pluto in 3rd house in Pisces: This Soul was and has been seeking what may be known, by exploring its environment with curiosity, in search of variety and diversity.
Even with emphasis in mental and intellectual processes, It was always concerned with collecting data and information in an empirical way.
This process of classification and attribution of names to things in order to understand the phenomenal world, the way it works, constituted the basis of its emotional security. By understanding its environment the Soul was able to understand itself; learning about its connection to the empirical world led to understanding of Its relation to the All.
Classifications take the form of a linear process that puts together the pieces of information the Soul collected by means of a divisive process, but being Pluto in Pisces this linearity was conceived in the context of an underlying unity and search of synthesis (Pluto conjunct Jupiter ruled by Neptune in 12th house in Sag, PPP in 9th house Virgo conjunct Urania).
In this lifetime the linear and divisive process apparent in the phenomenal world is coming to a culmination and a new synthetic approach is beginning (Mercury Balsamic Pluto and Jupiter, all in Pisces; Jupiter NP conjunct Pluto).
Indeed, all the belief system is culminating relative to prior values and ideas as well as initiating new ones (Jupiter balsamic SN, NP Pluto, Venus in Aries NP conjunct Jupiter).

Although in 3rd individuated, this Soul is still bringing to an end something consensual in the way it relates with this approach to phenomenal world, or regarding religious ideas and values that are not really its own but learned from others (Pluto's ruler Neptune in 12th house in Sag balsamic conjunction Saturn ruler 2nd house Moon; SN Pluto conjunct SN Saturn and Venus in Cap in 2nd house conjunct Moon).

At the same time, the Soul is learning about society's rules and norms in order to integrate its purpose, learning how to establish its innovative and revolutionary ideas on society's terms. While the thinking and belief system is mostly in balsamic and new phase, the establishment of the Soul's purpose is initiating the Disseminating phase.
In order to challenge these cultural rules the individual needs detachment from his individuality, his individualism, objectively observing society as an "other" , learning what it needs and how it needs it, understanding the core of its beliefs, its truths (or half truths) as well as the diversity of them.
Learning how to establish It's purpose in society's terms would make possible to build the foundations of a new belief system as well as a new personal and generic self-image.
If as I suppose, this could be Darwin's chart, it would be the building of a new human self image based on the understanding of the relations with our ancestors. (Pluto sesquiquadrate Mars DP, Mars in Libra in 10th house, ruled by Venus in Aries in 3rd NP conjunct Jupiter, SN Mars in Sag in 1st house conjunct SN Uranus, NN Mars in Aries in 4th house.)

SN in 5th house in Taurus: The Soul has been learning to creatively actualize its desires and intentions and trying to project them onto the environment.
In order to actualizing it as well as its strong feeling of special destiny, the Soul has been learning to survive in a self confident way by means of organizing facts and ideas in a independent way, as well as thinking about different forms of survival, seeking liberation from consensual thinking paradigms to which It was still attached. (SN in 5th house ruled by Venus in Aries, SN septile Pluto; Venus in 3rd house in Aries trine Saturn in Sag inconjunct Uranus and NN).

The individual has been gifted, talented and well known because of his intellectual conditions and capacity of concretion of his ideas and values. (SN balsamic sextile Mercury in 3rd house and balsamic semisquare Jupiter). He could even have created his own philosophical or scientific system in prior lives.
But he was confronted, persecuted and maybe even imprisoned for it. (SN inconjunct Saturn and Neptune in 12th, Mars in 10th house inconjunct Jupiter in Pisces in 3rd house in mutual reception with Neptune in 12th house; SN Venus conjunct SN Saturn in Cap ruled by Saturn in 12th house)

In addition, his orientation was narcissistic and self orientated as well as attached to his own values and beliefs (SN in 5th house in Taurus, ruler Venus in Aries in 3rd house); narcissism that must be overcome now by experiencing the full force of other's will, experiencing a crisis between his values and ideas and that of the consensus, the public statu quo (Venus Gibbous opposition MH).
To resolve it the Soul needs deconditioning and liberating from consensual statu quo by deepening the investigation of the causes of his scientific and religious values and ideas, (SN in a Yod with Saturn and MH, and square Chiron in 2nd house Aquarius in skipped steps whose Resolution Node is NN conjunct Uranus in 11th house in Scorpio).

SN ruler inconjunct NN and Uranus suggests a new approach to phenomenal facts leading to another crisis with collective thinking in this lifetime.
The Soul has created "fated" circumstances bringing remembrances of some intention of actualizing a past knowledge that was rejected by consensus society; those circumstances point the way to make manifest, to exteriorize them in this lifetime. (SN biseptile Moon and septile Pluto in 3rd ruled by Neptune in Sag conjunct Saturn, ruler Venus opposition MH and NP conjunct Jupiter, also ruled by Neptune).

Chiron skipped steps: SN is square Chiron in 2nd house conjunct SN Neptune (Neptune rules Pluto and all the thinking and belief system).
There was some traumatic wound related to survival, to collective survival or loss of life, related to his need of finding the causes of collective survival and linked to the foundation of his belief system according to Natural Law (Chiron ruled by Uranus in Scorpio ruled by Pluto in 3rd house Pisces ruled by Neptune in Sag in mutual reception with Jupiter in Pisces).
The Soul has already sought the causes in an unconditioned way, ying new beliefs, but suffered persecution and maybe jail because of it (Chiron skipped steps also square NN conjunct Uranus, SN Uranus conjunct SN Mars in Sag in 1st house, SN ruler Venus in Aries in 3rd NP conjunct Jupiter, SN Venus conjunct SN Saturn in Cap ruled by Saturn in 12th house).
For evolution to proceed the Soul needs to seek the deep causes of death or survival in the collective long-term memory, accelerating the mutation of the past in future. (Resolution NN in 11th house in Scorpio conjunct Uranus and NN Chiron, SN balsamic semisquare Jupiter).
In Darwin's case this manifests in that he was the first to organize a Tree of Life, his metaphor of the phylogeny, or evolutionary relatedness among species through time.

With PPP in 9th house the Soul intends to know and explain its relation to the phenomenal nature of the universe, to natural principles and laws that transcend the empirical facts, the individual and his individual will.
In 3rd individuated the Soul is concerned with helping consensus to evolve by understanding these causes and principles.  

Being in Virgo conjunct Urania, (ruled by Mercury in Pisces in 3rd house conjunct its NN), the evolutionary intention is  - by means of NN in Scorpio in 11th - to deepen the search for truth in his own way and allowing the distinctions obtained by classification and opposition to become elements to discernment; this discernment would then allow a new synthesis, a new bigger picture based on a deep cosmological, natural, underlying truth that the Soul already knows, but needs to find a new way to  communicate to society.
The new belief system is the result of an analytical and discriminative approach to the natural laws that rule the underlying unity of the empirical world, well known by the soul in prior lives, but having been confronted, persecuted and perhaps in jail because of it maybe his beliefs later remained hidden. (Virgo PPP ruled by Mercury balsamic Pluto and Jupiter, PPP ruler trine NN conjunct Uranus and square Saturn conjunct Neptune in 12t house, SN inconjunct Sat and Neptune in 12th, Mars in 10th house inconjunct Jupiter in Pisces in 3rd house in mutual reception with Neptune in 12th house).
In Darwin's chart, PPP in Virgo in 9th house is a reflection of the discovery, or uncovering, of the Law of natural selection as a key mechanism of evolution.

NN in 11th house in Scorpio conjunct Uranus: This Soul has chosen to know and explain the relation to larger natural realities and laws by searching for the deep causes of phenomenal manifestation, always asking why some aspect of reality or collectives has behave or become the way it has, and opening to innovative and revolutionary ideas with a promethean attitude of "steeling the fire to the gods" (or religion), giving this knowledge tool to Humanity to furthering its evolution.
This purposeful attitude is guided and aided by an intelligence that extends far beyond the mental synthesis of the Gemini-Sagittarius polarity that spawns new and original formulations through the flash of insight, with ability of revolutionize the collective thinking. (NN trine Pallas in Aquarius in 3rd house conjunct Sun and Sophia)
The skipped steps involving Uranus, ruler of his 3rd house, suggest that the Soul  was innovative and able to confront the cultural structure of his time, but couldn't sustain it and went back to its "well", perhaps to survive or to maintain the control of its destiny until more objectivity were attained.

Together with the acknowledgment of the cultural requirement of its time, search for proof was now essential to this Soul and gave the original and revolutionary ideas a firm foundation that, despite the opposition, could prevent their invalidation by the consensus society or religion.

Thank you Rad for the possibility of learning this systematic approach to EA interpretation.
God Bless
Mirta

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Post by: ari moshe on Mar 03, 2013, 05:33 PM
Hi Rad - Just want to check in with you. I've been real busy and have not had the chance to sit with this thread. I am committing time tomorrow, Monday, for just this.
With love,
Ari Moshe
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Post by: Linda on Mar 04, 2013, 01:56 AM
Hi Rad and group,
I needed some extra time for this assignment,
so will probably post around the same time
as Ari.
Thank you,
Linda
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Post by: Rad on Mar 04, 2013, 10:16 AM
Hi Mirta,

Thanks for making the effort to understand the EA paradigm in this chart so far. It is simply excellent EA work with very accurate EA reasoning. This is how EA is meant to be done.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Linda on Mar 05, 2013, 12:44 AM
JWG's PLANETARY METHOD OF CHART INTERPRETATION


"The Genius of the Human Mind"


(A)  Pluto Pisces 3rd: Types of desires the Soul had in specific prior lives the evolutionary necessity and intentions of which have direct bearing on the current life.

In past lives the Soul had developed the mind and intellect in order to understand the phenomenal world by means of a collection of a vast array of endless new "observable" facts, data, information, evidence, details and proofs;  naming, identifying, designating, cataloguing, sorting, grading and classifying data;  developing written communication, manuscripts, texts, collected works, masterpieces;  devouring copious quantities of books;  seeking variety and diversity in a multiplicity of endeavours;  and engaging in relationships and circumstances in the environment as a messenger, disseminator and communicator.  The Soul was programmed to be constantly and intensely curious, restless, impatient, nervous, impulsive, reactionary, rational, logical and intelligent.  All of these traits and activities based on the intellectual construction of the ordering of reality formed a structure of "intellectual security" which facilitated adjustments through the accumulation of more and more facts gathered from the environment.

In the Soul's karmic history it desired to experience the dissolution and sublimation of its identification with the personal ego by diligently engaging itself in a widespread, far-reaching,  extensive, creative, educational, cultural project, the knowledge and information of which would assist the world (the collective of Souls) and transcend time and space.  The Soul had immersed itself in a search for ultimate meaning and fulfillment based on the information it had gathered, however, the Soul was dealing with weariness, exhaustion or disillusionment.  The inner creation of dreams, fantasies, illusions and delusions had permeated his thought patterns, assertions and transcendental beliefs.  Because of a propensity for cycles of dissolution of the Soul's identification with its mental structures generating loss of control, subconscious insecurities, fears, phobias, mental confusion, disorientation and meaninglessness, the Soul anchored itself to a known and familiar function.  This function or symbol describes the iconic researcher, ingenious collector, deep imaginative thinker, inspirational communicator, and the writer writing with conviction, obsessively played out in an attempt to control its life, maintain a sense of order, and give it a tangible purpose (3rd stage Individuated).  

The Soul was able to connect left-brain "˜rational' facts, data, information, logic and reasoning with right-brain "˜non-rational' intuition, creativity, insight, imagination and mysticism.  Brain power, wit and intelligence combined with an all-knowing intuition, inductive thought, inspiration and deeply felt spirituality created open-mindedness, adaptability, but also inconsistency and confusion (lost in a sea of information). The Soul had the capacity to arrive at an holistic understanding by interpreting multiple viewpoints and systems of the whole of life/creation, unifying them through reasoning and logic, and then using the information for a collective application.  This karmic signature also highlighted the simultaneously occurring and co-equal desires existing within the Soul.  When separating desires were satisfied, they were immediately followed by a sense of dissatisfaction (Scorpio) mirroring the ultimate desire to return to Source.  

Mercury (and NN of Mercury) last phase conj Pluto, all ruled by Neptune Sag 12th, ruled by Jupiter Pisces 3rd;  Mercury (ruler of PPP) first qtr squ Neptune - These aspects emphasize the Soul intention to culminate a whole cycle of evolution (12th);  transition from one phase to another (crisis in action) through resistance, insecurity and fear of the unknown;  establish mental structures relative to surrendering to a Higher Will (collective unconscious);  and dissolve any karmic remnants that remain in the Soul.

Neptune (conj Saturn) last qtr squ Pluto - This (generational) crisis in consciousness/belief describes facing the unknown, the totality, through the dissolution of self as ego;  playing an integral role in the collective evolution of spirituality either through inspiration or delusion;  dissolving the old reality or social order (Saturn) and opening humanity's eyes to the "reality" of our world.

SN of Jupiter Cap 1st (ruled by Saturn Sag 12th);  Jupiter Aries 3rd (ruled by Mars) first phase conj Pluto;  NN Jupiter 29 deg Gemini 7th (ruled by Mercury) - The Soul sought new philosophical beliefs by instinctually asserting itself.  The de facto oppositional signature of Jupiter/3rd was determined by the Soul to integrate and synthesize opposites.  The Soul instinctively sought new ways of understanding Natural Laws, the natural truth of diversity, and the relativity of all things.  In order for the philosophical structures to evolve by way of breaking new ground and taking completely new directions, it was necessary to culminate a whole cycle (NN Jupiter) whereby information had been collected through interactions and relationships with a variety of other Souls the dynamics of which had become unbalanced.  

Mars Libra 10th ruling Jupiter - The Soul was balancing extremities associated with past life parental, societal and cultural conditioning patterns.  This meant ceasing to believe old sources of information, untruths and half-truths and, having achieved the required social humility and purification (Mars/Pluto full phase), undertaking a search alone (Venus Aries ruler of SN) for new information in a self-determined fashion.  Venus (ruler of SN) trine Saturn/Neptune;  Venus inconj NN - It was time to integrate the new evolutionary impulse on behalf of the collective of Souls, by humbly providing a service for humanity, and trusting in a higher power to usher in a new spiritual and social order.  

(B)  South Node Leo 5th - The types of egocentric structures that the Soul has necessarily created in order to consciously actualize the evolutionary desires or intentions which preceded the current life. The Soul Node is the conscious component that the Soul generates or creates to actualize the desires that are intrinsic to the Soul itself.

Over a series of prior lives, the Soul created egocentric structures or personalities that could actualize the Soul's intention through creativity, will, power, self-importance and a sense of special destiny.  Therefore, in the current life the Soul created a very specific egocentric personality programmed with specific life conditions, meetings with key people, affluent economic conditions, race, culture, as well as every other area of life exactly according to what the Soul needed to evolve beyond (progressively eliminate, culminate or exhaust) the past life desires.  

In order for the Soul to attract to itself the information that it needed, it needed to develop an intense focus, to take charge of its life, apply personal energy, and create a special purpose that would attract to itself all the love, attention and acceptance that it craved, as well as creating a sense of self-value and self-esteem (Venus).  The pattern or symbol of the creative principle included the use of the intellect, imagination, creative thought, creative writing, as well as the incorporation of inspirational transcendental beliefs.  The Soul experienced an inner sense of ultimate meaning and fulfillment by sharing the information it had gathered about the environment with others.  It shone its light of creative self-expression and personal self-actualization through a generous, warm, kind-hearted, dignified and charismatic personality thereby inspiring, motivating, and stimulating others with thought-provoking ideas and writings.  It is possible that the creation of many lifetimes of fame, renown, or being in the limelight could have lead to the Soul becoming an iconic symbol or developing a God-complex.  

In the Soul's prior lives it desired to create inner value systems (self-worth, financial) while being rooted to a productive special purpose.  The Soul's strong instincts for survival, procreation, sensuality, sexuality, self-preservation, regeneration and self-sustainment were reflected in the larger order of Nature as the ongoing preservation of the species.  Past lives spent in isolation, study, contemplation and withdrawal facilitated a sharp intellectual focus on the Soul's special purpose, as well as an all-encompassing love and appreciation for the beauty and awesomeness of Nature.

(C)  SN Ruler Venus Aries 3rd - Facilitates the SN egocentric structures

The Soul's creation of the personality describing the iconic collector/communicator with a special purpose in the natural world was facilitated by strong instinctive energies, strong will, self-focus, courage, leadership, and a need for freedom and independence to explore the new territory.  The Soul was naturally centred in itself through a concentrated self-awareness, quite stubborn and dogmatic in its thinking and communication patterns, tended to ask and answer its own questions, and created intellectual confrontations with others (Aries natural trine to the 5th house, Venus naturally ruling Taurus).  Furthermore, the Soul found it difficult to really listen to others because it had been intent on making its own points, as well as living past lives in isolation with everything revolving around itself.  The desire to complete itself through a natural state of "˜becoming' would expose a subconscious insecurity or lack of confidence (Venus conj IC) that reflected the toppling of the mental structures.  However, this process motivated a driving need or instinctual urge to explore and discover more about itself and the world through the qualities of courage and audacity to break the new ground.

(D)  PPP Virgo 9th - The current life intention of the Soul to evolve beyond the past life dynamics that it has already realized.

The Soul has a fixed vision (Taurus), a self-centred nature (Leo), and tends to ask and answer its own questions to generate self-value and self-love (Venus Aries 3rd).  Its inner messages are narcissistically geared toward self.  In order for the Soul to progress through the 3rd stage Individuated, the information that the Soul has been collecting for its special purpose needs to reach a wider audience, humanity, the collective.  The Soul programmed necessary confrontations with people who were able to penetrate (Pluto) to the weakest link in the Soul's highly developed intellectual structure.  Thus the whole intellectual structure would collapse or topple (Leo) inducing the 9th house evolutionary intention to develop the right brain intuitive nature that reveals the deeper universal Natural Laws underlying the facts that the Soul has been collecting, and creating a composite, holistic view.  In this way the Soul began to open up to deeper relationships with others (eg teachers, associates, groups, NN Scorpio) who represented what the Soul was lacking, thus mastering its intellectual structures, undertaking systematic inquiries into the data collected, communicating intuitive insights through rational language, synthesizing and classifying the knowledge, thereby transforming others (humanity).  

The Soul was learning how to align with Natural Laws in order to understand them, not dominate or distort them, and to give a higher purpose for the information that the Soul had been collecting.  In its travels far and wide to new shores, drawing on its past lives spent in isolation studying Nature, the interaction with new environments stimulated the senses (Taurus) and the mental structures (3rd) of natural observation (Virgo) in a new way (Aries).  The transcendental belief system adopted by the Soul necessitated a deeper, sharper focus on the inner dynamics in order to effect adjustments and purifications of the egocentric structures making it possible to move out of the narcissistic, isolationist tendency toward benefiting others through human service.  The Soul carrying Christian guilt, religious orthodoxy, and self-doubt would experience cycles of deep crisis mirroring the inner state of the Soul, enforcing self-improvements such as the grounding effects of work, seeing reality for what it is, studying systems as a whole, and bringing all the parts together.  

(E)  North Node Scorpio 11th - Conscious actualization of the PPP, the current life evolutionary intentions.

Here the Soul is learning how to detach from the pyramid structure of its inner reality by linking its purpose to a socially relevant function.  The Soul is liberating from traumatic experiences where it is not acknowledged as special, and realizing that it is merely a channel of universal creativity.  The Soul is breaking free from conditioning patterns of past lives by no longer identifying with limited aspects of itself that are of no value, and eliminating them.  

The Soul experienced the rejection by the established order of its innovative new approaches when, due to its strong attachment to rigid ideas, it was not allowed to integrate its vision into the whole.  This created a need to step back and learn objectivity and detachment through crisis-filled traumatic experiences.  The Soul started to understand what was unique about itself through contrasting and bonding itself with like-minded others.  

The Soul became aware of the universal forces beyond its sense of powerlessness and its limitations of narcissism, isolationism, resistance, and self-interest, and desired to merge with, form relationships, and osmose power from people, symbols or sources that represented what the Soul was trying to become.  These cycles of continual death-rebirth of the Soul's awareness created intense dual desires of merging with that which was desired (powerful symbols) followed by a sense of dissatisfaction reflecting the desire to move beyond any boundary and merge back with Source.  Trauma was triggered when the Soul experienced abandonment, loss and violation of trust through friendships.  

(F)  NN ruler Pluto 3rd
- Facilitates the NN egocentric structures

The Soul had been resisting evolution in its past lives correlating to SN Taurus where it had felt highly secure in the "˜well.'  There had been a compulsion to not only repeat the SN dynamics but to also repeat the NN/PPP dynamics.  The repeating of all of these dynamics resulting in trauma, fear and resistance because the Soul could no longer control its reality as defined by that past.  This would result in new choices in the face of that past.  By repeating the past life dynamics correlating to the PPP (widening its limited circle of activity to include world travel and commitment to work and service), those new choices would have the effect of evolving the NN (aligning with like-minded groups and linking the special purpose to a socially relevant need, communicating and sharing with naturalists all over the world), the SN (moving away from isolationism and narcissism), the SN ruler (instinctual inner messages evolving to listening to others), as well as natal Pluto itself (the intellectual structures and the transcendental belief system).  

The Soul merged with powerful symbols of knowledge and, together with its massive databank of information, highly developed intellectual skills, huge questions in his mind, millions of pieces of specimens and evidence (touch, smell, see with own eyes), and studying and documenting the tiniest of variations, formulated the completely new human philosophy of evolution by natural selection (whatever survives will reproduce).  This was facilitated by studying distinctive kinds of animals, fossils, rocks (geology), detecting an ordered sequence over time, and deducing from these tangible sources the idea of very slow evolution over vast spans of time.  

The Soul was able to understand the unstoppable force of evolution (Pluto) thus revolutionizing how people understand the natural world.  All the pieces of information that described the complexity and diversity of all life produced by Natural Laws were synthesized together in a comprehensive new scientific idea, thus correcting ideas about the age of the Earth, targeting religious distortion, crashing through illusions about God (creationism), and understanding how humans form part of the animal kingdom in the unity of creation (Pisces).  The conclusion reached was that every living thing was related to another because creation had struggled for survival over great lengths of time.  Soon the flow of information through books and publications flooded the world-wide scientific community.  This new human philosophy would effect evolution for not only the Soul, but would change the world forever.  


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Thanks Rad and group for yet another opportunity to practice the EA paradigm.

Love,

Linda
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Mar 05, 2013, 12:52 AM
Hi Rad and all, I am simply fatigued and need to rest my body. I will resume this tomorrow and likely will post then as well. Thank you so much for this opportunity.
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Mar 05, 2013, 08:28 AM
Hi Linda,

Simply wonderful EA work on this chart so far, the EA reasoning you have employed being extremely sound. This is how EA is meant to be done.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Mar 05, 2013, 06:17 PM
Thank you so much Rad for this space for such immense growth and learning to occur through this community. We all support the growth of one another so much through offering our efforts here.
With love, am

Pluto and the nodes paradigm.
Third individuated, male - born in England.
I'm already aware of who this individual is, so I am putting that aside to the best that I can in order to analyze this as objectively as possible.

Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd house. Mercury and Ceres in a balsamic conjunction with Pluto. Jupiter in a new phase conjunction with Pluto. Pluto squaring the Sag AC and the Gemini DC. Uranus in Scorpio conjunct the North node disseminating Trine to Pluto. Mars in Libra in the 10th full phase sesquiquadrate to Pluto.

Pluto polarity point in Virgo in the 9th.

South node in Taurus int he 5th, ruler Venus in Aries in the third house conjunct the IC. Venus first quarter trine to Neptune and Saturn in Sag in the 12th.

North node in Scorpio in the 11th house. Jupiter gibbous phase sesquiqudrate to the north node.

England at the time of this soul's incarnation was in the process of the industrial revolution which birthed rapid technological/scientific innovations. The industrial revolution reflected a stage of collective evolution relative to a growing collective receptivity to the sciences that had otherwise been shunned throughout the midieval ages. Given his ea stage, this soul has come into that environment as a reflection of his soul's desire to understand the greater interconnectedness between all things - to come to a transcendent understanding of how all elements in the enviroment internconnects with itself - Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd. In that vain, he would have experienced an inner sense of being lost in the context of the various social and religious "opinions" scientific and otherwise that have been taken as "fact" - needing to make sense of it all. There would be a loss of perspective and a yearning to find meaning in life - to understand something greater, something more. Pluto in new phase with Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd, Pluto squaring Sag AC. This lifetime was about venturing forward to synthesize various and find greater meaning/context for the meaning of manifest reality.

Within all that, with Mercury in a balsamic conjunction to Pluto one thing the soul was seeking to complete in this lifetime was a whole bunch of information and data about the enviroment that doesn't seem to connect - for this soul this would relate to a deeply existential sense of meaningless in life - trying at times to make sense out of all the information of other people, Mercury ruling the DC in Gemini which is squared by Pluto and Mercury, and then being disillusioned upon realizing it's limitations, its non absolute nature. The Pluto polarity point in Virgo, noting that Virgo is intercepted and is ruled by that Mercury, is about developing a discriminative mind that allows him to sieve through all the facts, data, opinions, information, cultural beliefs, and come to a concrete synthesis of how it all works together. My sense of it, with such a loaded intercepted Pisces, and the ruler of the pretty much empty intercepted Virgo being back in Pisces in the 3rd - there is definitely a strong intention for this soul to create some higher context for things. With Lucifer in a gibbous phase opposition to Pluto - this really emphasizes the sense of lack and how difficult it can feel to make meaning out of all the data. And yet this soul, through the development of a cosmology would be bearing a philosophical light that will serve the collective. That Lucifer squares Saturn Neptune in Sag in the 12th both of which are also in a disseminating square to Pluto. So this is a strong theme in this soul's chart. The Saturn Neptune in disseminating square to Pluto, which I'll focus more on in a later post, in this context points to focusing his mind on the bottom line in order to create a structure of cosmological thought that will reach the masses and become conditioned within the collective consciousness as a way of explaining natural law.

The soul context for these Pluto desires has been through the south node in Taurus in the 5th house which in a general way correlates to an internalized sense of having a special purpose - to look inside himself, on his own and create something unique through deep internalized focus of his own energy. With Venus in Aries conj the IC, this creates a very self focused, self directed, internalized kind of personality that naturally pictures itself to have a special purpose to fulfill - on his own. For this soul there has been a constant, ongoing sense of becoming - who am I, what I am here to be, what is yet to be discovered? On an emotional level, his quest for universal knowledge that connects all things has been linked to a personal quest to find out who he is - to uncover his own individuality. So it's clear the discovery, internalization, walking out into the world alone and spending time with his self discoveries, Aries, sn in Taurus in the 5th - and having been known for that on some level is a past life theme here. The sn of Venus is in Cap in the 2nd house which further emphasizes the immense degree of internalization and self development within the soul from the past. The Moon is there as well, which I'll address in a future post.

Note however that there's a skipped step dynamic here with Chiron in Aquarius squaring both nodes - along with that is the sn of Neptune and the sn of Mercury both conjunct Chiron in Aquarius in the 2nd house. So the Pluto soul context has been met with some unresolved dynamics that relate back to the Venus, 2nd house archetype. The ruler of the Aquarius second house Chiron is Uranus which is on his north node in Scorpio in the 11th. Chiron is just about in a balsamic phase semi sextile with Pluto. These signatures correlate to dynamics in the past wherein the soul has made objective observations about survival, both how we live as a species, how we survive; perceiving the geometric matrix, the bottom line archetypes that relate to the evolution of consciousness. Given the strong Aquarius theme here and his ea stage, this would imply a great degree of scientific brilliance. Achieving these observations required the soul to liberate from culturally conditioned values - and to see things clearly, as they are. This has been met with great opposition and projections - possibly being excommunicated and things of that nature - second house isolation relative to 11th house. And yet with Uranus on the north node, this soul has already developed immensely in this area as a scientist and in the context of his evolutionary condition has learned a great degree of detachment to essentially not care what others think.

The Chiron skipped step implies that lifetime was about developing further detachment so that he can uncover his more essential nature, and to see things more clearly without any conditioned thoughts getting in the way. It also points to deep personal wounding around isolation and not fitting into any group. The soul lesson for this guy was to essentially be a group of one, to establish for his own self a sense of purpose that relates to who he knows he is intrinsically as a human being, and from there to let everything else unfold as it will. The fip flopping between the nodes would have expressed as periods of being completely self focused, self absorbed and doing his own thing - regardless of what others thought (sn Taurus 5th, ruler Venus in Aries) and periods of feeling just deeply alone and trying to establish his own values in the world and being met with great opposition/projections.

With Chiron on the sn of Neptune, squaring the 11th house Scorpio north node, and the balsamic phase between Chiron and all the Pisces planets, there is clearly a karma for this soul relative to past lives of involving the human brain and it's abilities - where he idealized and placed ultimate meaning onto it. This  created massive trauma and was linked to a sense of arrogance that was possibly exclusive and persecutive to various subgroups. In his evolution, he has surely experienced the other end of that.

With Chiron applying to the north node his lesson was to get out of the well of his personal research and questioning and sharing his inner wealth of knowledge with the world.

A bit more about the trauma for this soul in terms of his own personal struggle to fit in, to be accepted: a part of this soul's path has been to overcome this trauma by being who he is, no matter what. All of this points back to the Pluto bottom line - which is to come to an all encompassing understanding of how creation interconnects with itself. The Chiron semi sextile balsamic phase to Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd means that he would be re-evaluating and reflecting highly on his own values and seeking a transcendent understanding of reality which would allow him to come to terms with his own existence, his own survival/social needs, his own role as a member of humanity etc. Relative to his evolutionary condition, this would still imply some degree of mental dissociation and a strong proclivity towards a cosmology that will "make things make sense" so that he doesn't have to face the immense inner trauma, which itself links back to a sense of meaninglessness in life.

With the north node in Scorpio in the 11th house, with Uranus on the north node, relative to the integration of the skipped step planet, this facilitates the Pluto polarity point in Virgo in the 9th which translates to the essence of observation and correlation. Integrating objective observations about reality into a clear and inwardly well articulated cosmology about reality. This allows him to come to intellectual terms with his personal place within the scheme of humanity via way to understand and make meaning out of the trauma of being alive.
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Mar 06, 2013, 09:29 AM
Hi Ari,

Thanks for making the effort to do this excellent EA work on this chart thus far. Your EA reasoning is extremely sound. This is how EA is meant to be done.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Mar 06, 2013, 09:30 AM
Hi Wendy and Henrik,

Please let me know if either of you still plan to post on the chart we are working with thus far. Please remember the value is in the effort, and to not compare yourselves to anyone else except yourselves. This is how all of us learn.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Gray on Mar 06, 2013, 10:55 AM
Hello Rad and group,

I have managed to get some of my thoughts together on this birth signature and would like to share what I have come up with- I may go back and add some more later with more time.  Thank you for the opportunity to learn with all of you.

Pisces Pluto in 3rd House

The 3rd House Pisces Pluto of this Soul has a balsamic conjunction to Ceres and Mercury that reflects a lifetime of resolving deep emotional, perceptual, and intellectual issues across lifetimes.  This Soul incarnated as an "intellect" in a country at the forefront of the industrial revolution and world domination, a native of a true empire, who was in the third stage of the individuation process with a purpose to integrate knowledge and gifts acquired across lifetimes back into his surrounding culture in order to help create a plutonic shift in the belief systems in the greater world around himself.  The tight balsamic conjunction of Mercury and Ceres with Pluto in Pisces is especially revealing in this third house context: this Soul has been attached on a deep emotional level to developing their own metaphysical or intellectual system of organizing phenomenal reality, exploring diverse mental concepts and ideas from many different places in order to find connections to a greater Ultimate meaning.  The Ceres conjunction indicates at the same time, deep impacts of loss involving his biological parents, biological children, as well as possibly a  more collective family he took on a nurturing capacity at times with, as part of his process of developing understanding; as a result this Soul has lessons to learn about grieving and releasing attachment and possession to the life he creates and systems he intellectually organizes, the fundamental relationship in creation between life and death.  However, through the process of learning these lessons this Soul would be deeply attached to the development and possession of his own intellectual or metaphysical system of understanding reality.

The intellectual theories and system he was intent on discovering had a purpose of creating a deep shift and transformation in the worldview of consensus society of the time (Scorpio Uranus conjunct North Node trine Pisces Mercury-Ceres-Pluto), with a Piscean intention to help release others from suffering.  Consensus society at this time in his homeland propagated great suffering related to the dog-eat-dog mindset of the Industrial revolution, additionally being dominated by dogmatic Christian belief systems involving how the universe was created and how humans had to morally act as a result.  His Mercury-Ceres-Pluto is ruled by a Sagitarius Neptune in his 12th house in balsamic conjunctin with a Sagitarius Saturn- another symbol of this lifetime involving intense resolution of deep lifetime soul issues centered around spirituality and belief systems.  Sagitarius Saturn-Neptune is in a first quarter square with Pisces Mercury, so he would have strong desire to actualize a new intellectual system that would stand in contrast to consensus society and the past belief systems at the root of collective consensus reality.  In contrast, the Sagitarius Saturn-Neptune conjunction in the 12th is in a disseminating last quarter square to Pisces Pluto in the third, reflecting a rebellious critique of the dominant cultural viewpoint that is too limited to be useful for this Soul; however, being in the disseminating phase it is more so in a place of preparation for the big last quarter square crisis in consciousness, and more so with a purpose to learn the norms, customs, and beliefs of consensus culture so that the Soul will eventually be able to effectively integrate the knowledge he has gained back into society. In fact, developing empathy for others and his surrounding community will help support the Soul's ability to strongly critique the dominant consensus belief system comes from. This soul is aware of the deep suffering humans undergo and at times would have to battle his own depression, and his own disillusionment.  But the purpose of his disillusionment was to help structure his own Sagitarius belief system into his own intellectual system that could help free others from the illusions perpetuated by the dogmatic Church.  On a Soul level the intent of the third house Pisces Pluto has been to break himself out of the influence of dominant dogmatic beliefs of a limiting nature, developing a rational scientific research method of being able to empirically observe reality, create and test hypothesis, in order disprove illusionary consensus belief (12th house Sagitarius Saturn-Neptune square 3rd House Pisces Pluto conjunct Mercury-Ceres).  However, as we will see the 9th house Pluto polarity point as well as his Scorpio north node of the Moon do indicate a Soul purpose of opening up to a higher belief system, but one that resonates with his actual outer and inner experience of reality.

The 3rd House Pluto indicates this soul would gain security through mentally understanding his reality, especially being in conjunction with Mercury, and being in Pisces means that this understanding is about the Ultimate meaning of all creation.  This Soul would then be making choices, taking actions, and forming relationships that would catalyze and spur on this mental understanding.  The square from Sagitarius Saturn-Neptune in 12th to Pisces Mercury-Ceres-Pluto in third can also indicate deep disillusionment with the structure and system of his educational school upbringing and a desire to break free and collect extensive research on his own outside the confines of his cultural upbringing.  This aspect indicates this Soul would have a serious and skeptical intellectual mindset that would deeply feel the suffering of others around them and be able to intellectually absorb and analyze the religious belief systems that could be influencing and perpetuating that suffering. Having moved across the first two individuated stages into the third stage of individuation, this soul would have come from a background of discovering mental concepts that go against illusionary beliefs perpetuated by the dominant groups in society such as the Church, research and knowledge that functioned as an outlet for their sense of agitation and anger they have felt toward consensus reality and oppression linked with the status quo.  The third house Pluto influence would be about gaining additional information and expanding their thinking further, with a third stage individuated purpose of integrating this knowledge back into society to help facilitate a transformation of consciousness, Pluto in Pisces.

South Node in 5th House

This Soul having a Taurus south node of the Moon in the 5th House would mean it has come from a soul history of having a sense of a special destiny and purpose to fulfill, and that in a Taurus way it would be fixated on this belief as well as the belief system it had been developing in its Pisces Pluto third house manner.  The Ceres-Pluto conjunction makes this Taurus South Node energy of attachment to this belief system and special destiny even more intense, and even more problematic for this soul if it is not able to learn lessons of release and surrender of attachment and control.  

Indeed, this Soul has a skipped step symbolized by Chiron in Aquarius in the second house, indicating some deep soul issues linked to a fixated Taurus south node belief system.  Aquarius Chiron in second house can indicate intense wounds, cataclysmic trauma even, linked with survival.  This soul has undergone tremendous loss and grief and has at times felt responsible even for collective suffering in some manner (Sagitarius Saturn-Neptune in 12th square Pisces Mercury-Ceres-Pluto in 3rd; Aquarius Chiron in 2nd square the nodes of the moon and Uranus in Scorpio in 11th).  As a result, this soul has been impacted by wounds and trauma relating to survival, having to fight for survival, survival of the fittest, and competition for resources; and in this lifetime therefore incarnated into a world empire propagating the industrial revolution and colonizing the world, therefore reliving this trauma again in an intense manner.  This belief system rooted in a survivor perspective is ultimately a limiting belief system to overcome in order to resolve the skipped step. In relation to a Pisces Pluto with a balsamic conjunction to Mercury and Ceres in Pisces, this Soul could have a victim mentality soul issue to work through, perceiving phenomenal reality through a distorted filter of being a victim or having intense survivor needs and desires, as well as communicating, learning, and developing an intellectual system of knowledge through this same distorted filter.

The Taurus South Node is ruled by an Aries Venus that is conjunct Vesta in the third house.  This energy makes this Soul even more intensely focused upon manifesting this special destiny as well as intensely consumed with exploring mental concepts going along with the fixed and ultimately limiting Taurus belief system.  The Aries Venus-Vesta helps give this Soul the extra oompf and drive to be resilient in the face of his pioneering viewpoint and intellectual system being criticized by the status quo and dominant cultural powers such as the Church.  Aries Venus-Vesta is also at the end of the third house, so this Soul has been exploring and collecting information and knowledge about this intellectual system of ultimate meaning for many lifetimes; also, since the Aries Venus-Vesta is thus also conjunct his IC, this is a dynamic and willful energy and drive at the very root of this Soul's being, unlikely to be deterred by any obstacles.

Virgo Pluto Polarity Point in 9th House / Scorpio North Node in 11th House

The evolutionary lesson symbolized by a 9th House Pluto polarity point for this Soul is that through all of their third house-intense mental exploration, this Soul has been learning that truth is relative to the egoic perspective of each human around them, and that ultimately there is also a greater Truth that all of these relative perceptions of truth connect to;  however, at the same time that there is only so much of this great Truth they can ultimately understand with their rational mind. This Pluto polarity point being in Virgo means that there can be crises of disillusionment and grief that put this Soul in position to surrender to this understanding ultimately. This 9th house evolution will be about responding to others from true sense of Self, and this understanding could come about in part through 9th House travel into other cultures in order to get a more objective perspective of Self (North node of Moon in 11th house).  This Soul has lessons to learn that will help him integrate his diverse knowledge from chasing research lead after research lead into a more wholistic belief system that can encapsulate a large metaphysical perspective.  Part of this surrendering is acknowledgement that there is a greater power than himself and other humans operating in the universe.  This soul has the evolutionary goal of learning or realizing the ultimate Truth underlying all the diverse facts and learning he researches and can observe, and as he integrates this understanding it will give him greater focus, clarity of mind, and ability to intuitively respond to situations and other people with greater humility and greater attunement to the needs of the eternal now, instead of reacting from an egoic standpoint stuck in a fixed belief system. The important lesson is that this integration and development of larger metaphysical understanding connects with his own life experience and inner experience- not about simply taking ideas and research from other people.  As a result of this evolutionary integration, this soul will be able to teach his understanding to others and help catalyze transformation of others around him- as JWG states in the first Pluto book, "the Third House Pluto individual will have natural communicative skills that can inspire, motivate, enthrall, hypnotize, and metamorphose other peoples' intellectual patterns and opinions by sheer contact with them. Their ability to understand the connection between the macrocosm and the microcosm, between truth and fact, is unsurpassed. This ability can translate into taking any number of facts of a diverse nature and relating them to one central principle from which the facts emanate" (p. 77).  This evolutionary capacity of a third house Pluto is heightened in this soul's case, because their North Node of the Moon in Scorpio is ruled by their Pisces Pluto in the third house.

The intensity of the Ceres-Pluto conjunction in the third house is a perfect symbol for how much letting go would be required in order to face evolutionary lessons and take on the 9th house Pluto polarity point development.  In the Ceres myth, Ceres had to ultimately work through intense grief that caused her to deny her love and fertility from being integrated into the Earth around her; she had to come to an understanding of life, death, creation, and rebirth, she had to come to a letting go of attachment to her daughter Persephone. In the myth she had to experience intense oppression and crises in order to come to this understanding.  In a similar way, this Soul will have to go through a "Shock-Disassociation-Awareness" process of experiencing crises and disillusionment, confusion and alienation, in order to reveal what has actually been unreal in reality, the Virgo polarity to the Pisces of his Pluto.  This process will help this Soul come to an understanding of the "why" behind why they have been blocking, denying, or refusing to acknowledge aspects of their reality and belief system.  Pisces Pluto conjunct Ceres being the ruler of the North Node of the Moon in Scorpio, these lessons could come about through loss or death of a biological parent or children, for example.  The soul is learning lessons about how reality actually is, not how it wants it to be.  The obsessive aspects of this Soul's intellectual pursuits could ultimately be seen from a Soul perspective as separation from Source pursuits meant to help keep an individualized ego identity; the process of crisis will help this Soul separate out what is true for them at a core level versus what are more superficial and separating pursuits and desires.  This process will help this Soul attune to the actual needs of the moment- the concept of "Wu Wei" and awareness of how to act in harmony with themselves and the universe, and what is actually being required of him versus what he thinks is being required from an ego perspective. The Virgo aspect of the Pluto polarity point also reflects the integration of this understanding into a Work that is a practical help to others, and that being in the third individuated stage of development, this Soul will take this Work out into society to be of practical use to others.

Having a Chiron skipped step means that this Soul has already been working on development and evolution linked with the Scorpio north node of the Moon in the 11th house, and going back and forth along the axis of development- on one hand, stuck in a Taurus manner on a limited belief system connected to a special sense of destiny (5th house South Node), wanting the attention and the special status and recognition of coming up with a special gift to offer society, on the other hand learning the 11th house issues that he is only one of many people who has access to similar thoughts and learning, and that no matter how special he thinks his intellectual development and understanding is, that there are other people in the world who have similar gifts and perspectives and intellectual development to offer.  With Chiron in Aquarius squaring the nodes as the skipped step, there is a heroic and special destiny for this Soul to step into that will cause him to face his own deep wounding but as a result will be able to contribute a gift to society that will help other beings face and heal their own wounds.

With Uranus in Scorpio conjunct his North Node, it means that the crisis element of the Virgo polarity point to the Pisces Pluto can be even more intense, unexpected, and shattering.  Referencing the Ceres conjunction to a Pluto that rules Uranus and the North Node, the experiences can be as shocking as Hades ripping out of the Earth in order to take his daughter out of his life and into the underworld.  In Scorpio, it also means that this Soul's intellectual development into a 9th house larger belief system will confront taboos in society, and get to the root of limiting beliefs operating in consensus society.  But most of all this Soul must confront it's own personal limitations of belief first, in order to ultimately make this larger societal impact.  Uranian events will lead this Soul to this understanding.  Scorpio North Node in the 11th also means this Soul will face the issues of a 5th house special destiny, with a Taurus sense of isolation ruled by an Aries Venus of wanting to willfully promote his own limiting perspective; this Soul has the evolutionary lesson to learn how to merge his ideas and resources with others into the greater consensus society in order to help cause a Uranian and Plutonic shift in consensus consciousness.  This merging will be in a true sense, without dependency tied in with the connection, and the impact will add to his true Soul development from past lifetimes, helping to resolve the deep past life issues symbolized in this birth chart by, among other symbols, the ruler of the North Node of the Moon being a Pisces Pluto in balsamic conjunction with Mercury and Ceres.

with gratitude for this community of learning,
Gray
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Henrik on Mar 06, 2013, 12:23 PM
Hi Rad.

Thanks for your encouraging words, I don't think I will be able to post this time.

God/ess bless,
Henrik
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Mar 07, 2013, 10:11 AM
Hi Gray,

So nice to have you participating in this thread. Your EA analysis of this birth chart so far is simply wonderful and excellent EA work. Your unique take on various dimensions within the Soul dynamics of this person are brilliant. This is how EA is meant to be done.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Mar 07, 2013, 10:15 AM
Hi to all of you working on this chart,

I will wait to hear back from Wendy to see if she still desires to work with us here . So Wendy if you read this please let us know one way or the other.

We will begin work on the next step in the Planetary Method of Chart Analysis on Friday.

The EA work that all of you have done thus far is simply excellent and brilliant thus far. It is indeed, on a personal note, incredibly inspiriting to me to experience this through all of you.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Mar 08, 2013, 10:18 AM
Hi Group,

Now that you all have done excellent work on understanding the core EA paradigm in this chart it is now time to move to our next step.

Here is what Wolf wrote from the transcript provided:

"The next step in our happy methodology is then to go to the Sun, by the house and sign of the Sun and the aspects it is making. Why? Because the Sun is going to correlate specifically to how we are integrating and giving purpose and meaning to our current life experience. So in essence we are describing an evolutionary transition in our A B list, an evolutionary transition from past to the current life.  The Sun is now going to show you how that is integrated and given purpose and meaning in the context of the current life. How the Sun in Sagittarius integrates life experience, gives purpose and meaning, is going to be very different from how a Virgo Sun integrates life experience and gives purpose and meaning, you understand my point?  

      So once you get used to these methods you ultimately get to play the role of an evolutionary detective, why this Sun sign? You understand my point? So that is why our next step is to move right to the Sun.  And again I want you to be able to apply this experientially to your own chart, so try to work with that as we move through it so you can see the reality of what we are talking about. So just take a moment right now and think about your own natal Pluto, polarity point, north and south node and your Sun sign. Take a moment, don't ask a question, just take a moment!"

So of course all of you participating in this thread can of course reflect on your own EA paradigm, and then reflect on why your Soul has chosen the specific Sun sign that it has in order to integrate the current life evolutionary purposes relative to where it has been, and why. For all of those you are simply reading and following this thread you can of course do the same thing.

Relative to the chart we are working with, now that we have a tremendous understanding of the Soul's past that has lead to the current life which includes the evolutionary intentions for it, go ahead and determine why this Soul has chosen the Sun sign that it has which includes the house it is located within, and the aspects to it that it has. This will then correlate to the Soul's current life purpose and how it is creatively actualized relative to it's past that has brought it into the current life, and how that past interfaces with the evolutionary intentions for the current life.

If you have any questions please ask them now.

God Bless, Rad



Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Mar 08, 2013, 02:37 PM
Hi Rad - I've had this question for a while now. I don't understand what is meant when speaking of "why" the soul choose the current life Sun position.

QuoteThe Sun is now going to show you how that is integrated and given purpose and meaning in the context of the current life. How the Sun in Sagittarius integrates life experience, gives purpose and meaning, is going to be very different from how a Virgo Sun integrates life experience and gives purpose and meaning, you understand my point? 

      So once you get used to these methods you ultimately get to play the role of an evolutionary detective, why this Sun sign? You understand my point? So that is why our next step is to move right to the Sun.

What I got so far, on the most basic level, is the simple observation that "this Sun - its position and aspects - is how the current life evolutionary purpose - pluto ppp, nodes aspects, mars phase etc - will be integrated in the current life." Though I don't understand how to answer "why" that Sun.
Thank you. with love,
am

Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Mar 08, 2013, 11:34 PM
Hi Rad,

I'm wondering if this "planetary method" of chart interpretation is another name for how we usually interpret a chart in EA?

Normally we first ...
-Examine Pluto's house & sign and it's aspects, and it's ruler and it's house & sign and it's aspects.
-Then we next examine the Moon's SN house and sign, its aspects, it's ruler house & sign and it's aspects.
-Then we examine the PPP house and sign, and aspects to it, and then it's ruler's house and sign and it's aspects
-Likewise for the Moon's NN.

Besides the core karmic points (Pluto & the PPP and their rulers, and the Moon's SN & NN and their rulers), usually this process also embraces much of the rest of the chart as the remaining planets are usually aspecting at least one of these core points.

And then finally we flesh out the interpretation with those points, if any, that havent already been covered.

What we are doing here doesn't seem that much different - the analysis has ...
-Examined Pluto's house & sign and it's aspects, and it's ruler and it's house & sign and it's aspects.
-Examined the PPP house and sign, and aspects to it, and then it's ruler's house and sign and it's aspects  
-Examined the Moon's SN house and sign, its aspects, it's ruler house & sign and it's aspects.
-Examined the Moon's NN house and sign, its aspects, it's ruler house & sign and it's aspects.

We're next going to be adding the Sun, which has not been covered so far.

But then we will be covering the Moon, and there has been references to that already.
And after that we will be looking at Mercury, Venus etc, which have been well covered already being intricately involved in the karmic axis.

So are we basically formalising the method of interpretation that has generally been promoted and used on the MB to date? ... as there doesn't seem to be a great deal of difference between that and what we're doing here (except perhaps, having done the karmic axis we are going through the remaining points, even though many of them have already been covered, in logical unfolding order from the bottom up, as it were).

Thank you for another great chance to learn EA.

blessinbgs Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Mar 09, 2013, 10:40 AM
Hi Upasika,

The Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation was designed by JWG to aid EA astrologers by providing a Virgo like method that is one of a building block approach that allows an organized way of understanding the totality of the EA paradigm in all charts.

So, of course, when one starts with the Pluto paradigm itself many of the various planets that are connected to that paradigm become included within it. He designed this method for those who need a very linear approach to understand a birth chart. This method also allows seeing/ understanding the REPEATING THEMES within the chart which then serve as a kind of foundation or 'anchor' point upon which all else is referred too in order to interpret accurately the placement of whatever planet by house, sign, and aspects because of the referencing of this foundation or anchor point.

It also allows for an understanding as to why the Soul has chosen to have whatever Sun sign, the placement of whatever planet by house, sign, and aspects: the ongoing evolutionary needs of any given Soul.

God Bless, Rad   
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: cat777 on Mar 09, 2013, 11:01 AM
Hi Rad (or anyone else that wants to answer this),

How do you determine phasal relationships between the Sun and points like the MC or Ascendant? 

thanks,
cat
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Mar 09, 2013, 11:06 AM
Hi Cat,

When the Sun is involved with any other point the Sun is always the point of reference.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Mar 09, 2013, 02:45 PM
Hi Rad - I think you may have missed mine and Gonzalo's post from yesterday above.
With love,
am
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Mar 10, 2013, 10:45 AM
Quote from: ari moshe on Mar 08, 2013, 02:37 PM
Hi Rad - I've had this question for a while now. I don't understand what is meant when speaking of "why" the soul choose the current life Sun position.

QuoteThe Sun is now going to show you how that is integrated and given purpose and meaning in the context of the current life. How the Sun in Sagittarius integrates life experience, gives purpose and meaning, is going to be very different from how a Virgo Sun integrates life experience and gives purpose and meaning, you understand my point? 

      So once you get used to these methods you ultimately get to play the role of an evolutionary detective, why this Sun sign? You understand my point? So that is why our next step is to move right to the Sun.

What I got so far, on the most basic level, is the simple observation that "this Sun - its position and aspects - is how the current life evolutionary purpose - pluto ppp, nodes aspects, mars phase etc - will be integrated in the current life." Though I don't understand how to answer "why" that Sun.
Thank you. with love,
am



Hi Ari,

By having a through understanding of the prior life Soul dynamics, and the causes of those dynamics remembering everything is caused by desire, becomes the vehicle to understand the 'why' of the Sun sign a Soul chooses from life to life. The Sun of course correlates to the 'creative actualization' of the Soul from life to life, and gives the Soul it's sense of 'purpose' for living. In combination this then correlates how the entire Soul integrates the creative actualization process linked with that purpose which, in the end, is the Soul's ongoing evolutionary purposes and intentions.

Everyone who has been working on the chart here has provided simply incredible and accurate understandings of that Soul's prior life dynamics, the reasons for them, and also the ongoing evolution of those dynamics. In essence, this is a Soul who has desired to understand the causative principles, Natural Laws, of life itself as an ongoing evolutionary journey within itself that has resulted in a cataclysmic impact within the cultures and societies of it's birth by way of utterly / radically new understandings about the very nature of life itself.

As on ongoing evolutionary journey within itself this Soul has created it's own limitations, S.Node in Taurus, by way of it's own understandings about 'the nature of things' in ORDER TO FEEL / NEEDING TO FEEL/ psychologically secure. The S.Node ruler of the S.Node in Taurus is Venus of course and even though it is in Aries it is ruled by Mars in Libra in the 10th, which then squares the Capricorn Moon in the 2nd which, in turn, is ruled by the Saturn / Neptune conjunction in Sagittarius in the 12th which then is forming last quarter squares to his natal Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd. This is the signature of the Soul need to feel that cyclic security which then causes the Soul to limit itself by way of theories that serve as the basis of that limitation.

Yet the underlying and primary desire within this Soul is constant and continuous understandings and discoveries that will ultimately lead to a knowing of the 'whole truth' relative to the 'nature of all things', of life itself. The S.Node ruler is in Aries and it does trine the Saturn/Neptune in Sagittarius in the 12th: the whole truth and the desire to know that whole truth. And it is because of that core or underlying desire that then becomes the 'why' of the Sun sign chosen in that life: to rebel or throw off any existing limitation relative to the knowing of the whole truth. This then  creates a deep restlessness in the Soul, the creative actualization of the current life purpose defined by the past that has brought the Soul into the current life, that then serves who the Soul is integrating the current life evolutionary intentions.

As a result of this the Soul will then create circumstances in it's life wherein the nature of some exiting limitation in the Soul's understanding can or will be challenged by external others that then causes the Soul to reflect within itself in such a way as to continue it's own ongoing discoveries of the whole of the truth relative to the nature of the Creation in the first place.

With Uranus in Scorpio on this Sou'ls N.Node in the 11th, remembering that this has occurred before the current life, where the Soul essentially left off in the very last life before the current one, is one of the astrological 'clues' as to the 'why' of the current life Sun in this particular chart. 

Let me know if this answers you question .........

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Mar 10, 2013, 10:52 AM
Hi Gonzalo,

Quote from: Gonzalo on Mar 08, 2013, 09:04 PM
Hi Rad

In using this methodology, after we have looked at the main evolutionary axis, when looking at the planets starting now with the Sun, is it intended to look primarily at the Sun, by House, Sign, aspects ... or should we also look the 5th House, its ruler, where Leo is in the brthchart, planets in Leo or in the 5th House?

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For advanced EA astrologer's looking at all of those symbols that connect to the Sun, yes. For those that are first learning the EA paradigm just looking as the Sun and it's aspects is all they need to do. Later on as they themselves evolve then all of the symbols can be embraced.

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Also, if the analysis of the main evolutionary axis is focused on how the Soul has been evolving along many lifetimes coming into the current life, and how it is meant to continue evolving based on where the Soul has been, is it correct to consider that the current methodology, ie. planetary method, is meant to be focused on the current lifetime? ie. how the Soul intends to operate within this lifetime because of the past/future interphase occurring in the present time, in order to evolve?

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Yes, in the sense of how the Soul intends to actualize or operate in the current lifetimes but that way of actualizing or operating must be understood from the point of view of the past that has brought the Soul into the current lifetime and, as a result, where it is intending to evolve within it that is leading to the next lifetime. For the EA astrologer to be able to 'see' and understand all of this and then bring it to a client is an incredible thing.

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God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Gray on Mar 11, 2013, 03:57 PM
Hello Rad and group,

Rad, I would first like to thank you for the opportunity to learn this "Planetary Method."  It makes a great deal of sense to me and resonates deeply with my understanding of astrology. Maybe it's the "Virgo" aspect that is helpful for me, but in any case I am very grateful for the opportunity to learn this method with you.  Hopefully, I will have some helpful ideas to contribute to this learning . . .

The resonate past life desires for this Soul's current lifetime involve a quest to understand as much as possible of the total truth related to all of life and the natural world.  This soul has had a constant desire to investigate reality and life and make new discoveries in order to develop intellectual theories that organize it's understanding of the total truth underlying reality and life. These desires are reflected by the signature of a Pisces Pluto in the third house balsamic conjunct Mercury and Ceres in Pisces, ruled by a Sagitarius Neptune conjunct Saturn in the 12th House.  The Taurus south node in the 5th house reflects the burning sense of a special destiny this soul feels, combined with being in the third individuated stage, to develop this new intellectual understanding of reality and to integrate it into consensus culture. However, the Taurus south node reflects the fact that this soul has a strong need to feel psychologically secure with it's mental understanding of reality, and that as a result this Soul has created some limiting thoughts and beliefs it tends to cling to for this feeling of security; these limiting thoughts and theoretical beliefs ultimately prevent this Soul from achieving the total understanding of reality it so strongly desires.  He has also been strongly conditioned by societal influences and impacts in past incarnations, which has shaped the way he has developed his theoretical understanding of the world in a limiting way.

Therefore, in this current lifetime this Soul has incarnated with an Aquarius Sun in the second house in order to self actualize it's Pisces Pluto third house desires:  to individuate, rebel,  and break free from these limiting influences from society, parents, religion, and other influences that have helped form this Soul's second house inner value system, in order to come closer to understanding the whole truth underlying reality this lifetime.  Having an Aquarius Sun helps this Soul liberate from limitations of past value systems deeply ingrained in Soul memory through detachment and objectively reflecting upon its inner beliefs and thoughts as a result of difficulties and challenges in its current lifetime.  The North Node of the Moon being in Scorpio and conjunct a Scorpio Uranus in the 11th house is another symbol reflecting that these challenges can be extremely shocking and unsettling at times, but necessary to force the Aquarian detached observation and ultimate individuation from the limiting Taurus/second house beliefs that have been preventing this Soul from fulfilling its desire to achieve a more wholistic understanding of the truth underlying reality. Since Scorpio Uranus also symbolizes the individuated soul memory, longterm memory of past lives, there is deep karmic work to be done in reliving and then transforming these limiting thoughts and beliefs that have been formed from past life soul memory residue.

The purpose behind this Soul's Aquarius Sun this lifetime is to help him make new choices that will liberate him from the binding past of his beliefs.  However, at the same time, since Aquarius is fixed and his Sun is in the second house, it also reveals that he will be extremely stubborn and rooted in these beliefs, and it will take some intense Uranian shocks (Scorpio Uranus conjunct north node of the Moon in the 11th House) to force the issue.  In addition to shocking Aquarian/Uranian events, the Aquarian nature of his Sun also indicates that this Soul will experience liberating thought forms from within at important time periods that can also help him break free from past limitations of thought and belief- taking that electrifying Aquarian energy inside himself, in a second house manner, to liberate from within.  Since this Soul also has Chiron in Aquarius square the nodes, indicating a skipped step and previous flip flopping between past and future evolutionary development in past lives, some of these liberating thought forms could be recurring themes or ideas the Soul has experienced in past lives, meant to spark evolution from past lives, or could be repeating thoughts or issues faced within the current lifetime meant to help this Soul make new choices toward liberation.  This soul signature has many signs indicating that this Soul is reliving past issues, scenarios, and even trauma this lifetime: the Aquarius Sun can help him ultimately make new choices and to shed the crystallized skin formed from past incarnations.

Aquarius is also an inventive archetype that can involve detached observation, perfect for use of the scientific method.  This soul has a purpose this lifetime to test and retest hypotheses, make observations and correlations within it's environment, again ultimately with the purpose to liberate from past limitations of theoretical thought regarding the truth underlying reality;  however, one challenge is that since this Aquarius Sun is in his second house, he has a strong internal sense of the world that he is very rooted to for his security, which for this soul very much has to do with the mental security of understanding the ultimate nature of life. 

In a similar contradictory fashion, a helper and a hindrance at times for this ultimate development is the soul's Libra Mars in a disseminating trine to his Aquarian Sun.  The harmonious trine aspect could at times lend itself to re-inforcing the binding past internal belief system, in part from being in the 10th house, but if the Soul takes on the true purpose of having his Sun in Aquarius this lifetime, this trine aspect can be used as a way to sever himself from societal conditioning, and make a gift of his hard earned understanding to the world in a 10th house manner while liberating from the 10th house consensus reality beliefs and limitations at the same time. This Libra Mars in the 10th house is significant because it also rules his Aries Venus, the ruler of his South Node of the Moon in Taurus. The disseminating trine aspect between Libra Mars and Aquarius Sun, especially with the Libra Mars being in the 10th, means that this Soul ultimately has the Sun purpose this lifetime of using a profound ability to understand the intricacies of how society operates in order to actualize his special 5th House Taurus South Node purpose into society (also especially being third individuated stage). 

The disseminating trine from Libra Mars means that he can integrate these Aquarian Sun, deep second house survival issue, ideas and theoretical understandings into consensus culture even though the ideas may be shocking to consensus culture in an Aquarian way.  Mars being in Libra also means that this Soul will be forming a wide variety of relationships that will help him ultimately integrate his new understanding into mainstream society, relationships that will back his argument up and submit additional evidence in support of his arguments.  In fact, he will form some relationships with other theorists working on similar ideas who will arise at crucial times to validate his development of understanding and help him make an argument to authority figures, a traumatic past life issue represented by the Saturn-Neptune 12th conjunction square Pisces Pluto.

In addition, the Libra Mars in 10th symbolizes that this Soul will form many relationships that will help shape his theoretical understanding, will debate him and will help catalyze him to break free and liberate himself from past limiting thoughts and beliefs, helping to facilitate the Aquarius Sun purpose of his current incarnation. He will form relationships with people in power in the dominant culture of his birthplace, as well as people in other cultures around the world who have very different perspectives as part of his evolutionary journey to his Pluto polarity point in the 9th house.   Through many diverse relationships he will gain a greater sense of the relative nature of individual perception toward phenomenal reality (Pisces Pluto in third house ruler of Scorpio North Node in 11th conjunct Uranus), and through tremendous levels of idea exchange, he will come to greater discernment regarding his own true beliefs, thoughts, and understanding.  All of these relationships will force him to internally face his limiting thought forms from the past and help create opportunities for him to make new choices this lifetime.  This is especially the case with Libra Mars in 10th in mutual reception with Aries Venus in the 3rd, the ruler of the South Node of the Moon in the 5th.  This Aries Venus is also conjunct his IC, another symbol of these liberating thought forms able to vitalize and regenerate him from within into a new direction ultimately this lifetime.

This Libra Mars energy will help him break free from the dogmatic religious beliefs of the time period and place he was born into.  JWG wrote this about Mars in Capricorn and I feel it is perfect for how this Libra Mars in 10th house links to his Aquarius Sun purpose:  "Mars in Capricorn will correlate to a soul that desires to penetrate and set free all causes of personal inhibitions, constraints, restraints, and repressions. As such, this placement reflects a Soul who desires to unlock the cell door of their inner prison so that the light of personal freedom can shine, a freedom that is not limited by moralistic or religious conditions that create an uneasy guilt that attempts to control the instinctual impulses that emanate from the Soul" (p. 244). In this sense, having this Libra Mars in the 10th can be used with the Aquarius Sun as a perfect signature to face and liberate from the authoritative and dogmatic religious trauma ingrained in his birth signatures, in particular the Sagitarius Saturn-Neptune in  12th  in square to Pisces Pluto-Ceres-Mercury in 3rd.  This tenth house Libra Mars also indicates on a Soul level he will be have the test of liberating from emotional repression and denial, sexual repression and denial, religious and moralistic repression, and may have to work through and face times in which he acts out his instinctual desires and then feels at first like he must hide them from society to avoid judgement; through time and through hard questioning of his self and deep reflection, he can work through the difficulties and resulting trauma of emotional and sexual distortions in order to ultimately get on the Aquarius Sun path of liberating himself from within from these cultural distortions and limitations.  This will also go with his Virgo Pluto polarity point development of coming in to his own true sense of judgement of moralistic behavior in tune with natural law.  It isn't that he is meant to just do whatever he wants to do without regard to any sense of ethics or natural law; it is more that he is meant to discover his own true sense of right and wrong action that is de-conditioned from oppressive and dogmatic beliefs of consensus society.

With this tenth house Mars being in Libra, it could also mean that his intimate relationships could mirror this same pattern and that he could attract repressed individuals into personal relationship with him in which his own distortions, repressions, and fracturing are all triggered by the dynamic- again with the soul purpose being to present him with the opportunity to make new choices to break free from these conditionings.  His personal relationships in this way can even give him additional insight into his theoretical understanding of the utltimate truth regarding reality.  Through Aquarian objectivity, he will "become aware of how one part of the whole can influence or change the dynamics of the whole" (JWG, Pluto I, p. 202).

with gratitude,
Gray
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Mar 11, 2013, 05:46 PM
Hi Rad - thanks for your reply.

I believe I understand this now. I'll apply this and continue to watch as this unfolds. I'll ask if I have any further questions.
With love
Ari Moshe
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Kristin on Mar 11, 2013, 08:21 PM
Hi Rad & all,

Here are my findings on Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd. Thanks so much for your time and guidance.

Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd House ~ Only the Strong and Steadfast Survive!

This Soul chose this Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd in order to feed and give added life force to maintain a patient and plodding push, one with unwavering staying power, in order to bring his inventive observations to light, to bring his observations of the biological survival of the human species to LIFE . A life where his purpose was also to become totally self reliant without dependency on family wealth and resources, self reliant and free to explore his inventions and ideas in order to fulfill his destiny. Ultimately, if need be, to be a group of ONE in the process.  

JWG speaks to the key to looking for repeating themes. This Soul's Sun in the 2nd (a Taurus house) in Aquarius re-states the South Node in the 5th in Taurus. Also North Node in an Aquarius house. This is something that he has tried before and it was stopped, many times for various reasons as the ruler of his Pluto in Pisces is not only balsamic to Saturn, it is in the 12th house conjunct the ascendant, a closing theme after many lifetimes of attempts to bring his genius forward. He may have been cut off from family money or resources, disowned, or perhaps cast out by society where no one would give him a second look. South Node in Taurus, ruler Venus in Aries, which rules Mars in Libra in the 10th squaring his 2nd house Moon in Capricorn. Also South Node ruler Venus in Aries is inconjunct Uranus and the North Node in Scorpio, ruler Pluto in the 3rd in Pisces. There are other themes too, that have to do with being silenced and labeled crazy for his ideas - perhaps even been locked up for it. Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd makes a disseminating square, crisis in consciousness/belief Neptune and Saturn balsamic in Sag. So this life he needed undenial proof so these judgements and projections could be put to rest. The PROOF and the TRUTH would come with more observational research , Sun in Aquarius, ruler Uranus in Scorpio conjunct the North Node. Also Saturn, the planet of researching history, in Sag, of natural order, is balasmic to Neptune in Sag, the ruler of his Pluto which trines Uranus, the ruler of his SUN. They both trine Venus in Aries, the ruler of his South Node in Taurus.

I can see how some sort of cataclysmic shock may have also prevented him from finishing what he started. A trauma of the heart, Sun in Aquarius, such as losing someone he loved, perhaps a child, Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd would have caused him to freeze and fracture, ruler Uranus in Scorpio conjunct the North Node in Scorpio, this not allowing him to continue what he started. Considering we pick up where we left off, if this particular shock prevented him from moving on, he would need to re-experience it again in order to learn, recover,  and move forward. The Sun in Aquarius will also need to create the necessary survival shocks or shocks of the heart due to loss in order to bust down his own doors of limitation, ruler is Uranus in Scorpio conjunct the North Node in Scorpio in the 11th. The ruler of his Sun, Uranus in Aquarius, is STATION suggesting an intense re-live with the Soul intent to blast forward and to actualize his genius here on Earth. The cataclysm, death of a child, could prove to be a catalyst. He may have been too traumatized in the past, falling into a Soul trance,  rebelling against himself and the world, creating a hysterical resistance. Rebelling too against God but also afraid to believe the truth, so back to the church and the Bible he hid. He certainly would have been questioning his own ideas about God which in and of itself would have forced this frog from the well to explore beyond where he had been. The Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd, a fixed sign in a fixed house, would have needed a bolt of lightening to propel him from this place , to propel him from the well, which was set up to happen with Uranus, the ruler, being in Scorpio in the 11th conjunct the North Node, while trining his Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd.

One aspect I wanted to bring up as it was a new discovery when reviewing this chart again  relating to his past that led to this life and needing to have the Sun in Aquarius was his Kassandra in the 1st in Sag exactly conjuncts his South Node of Uranus, the ruler of the Sun, together along with his South Node of Mars, they make a last quarter square to Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd. In Greek mythology, Kassandra was the daughter of King Priam and Queen Hecuba of Troy. Her beauty caused Apollo to grant her the gift of prophecy. When Cassandra of Troy refused Apollo, he placed a curse on her so that she and all her descendants' predictions would not be believed. She is a figure both of the epic tradition and of tragedy. His gift of insight and invention, and ability to see the whole of the truth, Saturn balsalmic to Neptune in Sag in the 12th was truly one that no one wanted to hear, these findings leading to personal tragedy. It was a true burden to have and to hold the vision when no one could begin to grasp it for themselves. The long time burden is seen with Saturn balsamic to Neptune, ruler of his Pluto, in Sag in the 12th. This life with his Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd, ruler Uranus station in Scorpio in the 11th conjunct the North Node, also Uranus trining Pluto and Mercury in Pisces would allow for  'continuous unveilings'  of the whole truth versus the nature of truths' and for him this life, it was not only his purpose for the whole of the truth to be personally understood but it was his purpose for these observations to be courageously communicated, ruler of the South Node in Taurus is Venus in Aries, this trines Saturn and Neptune, Pluto's ruler, balasmic in Sag in the 12th. With Mercury as well as Ceres, Ceres connects to recovering something lost from the past, are making a balsamic conjunction to Pluto in Pisces and they trine the North Node in Scorpio as well as Uranus, the ruler of his Sun in Aquarius suggesting his findings will be recovered and finally revealed to the world.

He would need a 2nd house Sun to have the patience to unearth whatever necessary to prove his ideas, ruler of Sun in Aquarius is Uranus in Scorpio on the North Node. The strong 2nd house Taurean Sun combined with Aquarius equals the patience to see his purpose through even if he had to go at is solo, Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd. The Sun in Aquarius will also allow for an added OBJECTIVITY of his own limitations so he knows what needs to change in order to clear the hurdles and the blocks. It would take having one strong foot in the dirt while his mind in the sky travels beyond this time/space, in the ethers/astral plane, in order to unearth the ideas of old, to unlock the memories stored away in his own cells from another time. Long term memories connect to Uranus, which is the ruler of his Sun in Aquarius. He chose this Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd due to his need to leave the well of limitation, to go beyond the constraints of the consensus, Sun in Aquarius, ruler Uranus in Scorpio, even if his survival is on the line, even if he must die for it and especially when trauma in his life strikes. He must persist if he has to die trying. The Sun in Aquarius balsalmic to the Moon in Capricorn also reflects his own pulling away from the consensus and from his family of origin and all of his and their traditions that have kept him bound and limited. The Sun in Aquarius will liberate himself from the past, encouraging him to break free into his destined future.


The Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd makes a disseminating trine to Mars which means he will have an easier time bringing this philosophy of observations out into the world, not that this will come without judgments as that Mars squares his Capricorn Moon, nevertheless it will make it out onto the world stage in timeless ways and be carried forward long after he leaves this plane of existence in that particular body. The Sun in Aquarius trine Mars in Libra allows him to see his life's work and what is needed from all sides with an OPEN lens. The Mars in Libra which is receiving a trine from his Sun, is ruled by Venus, Venus rules his South Node in Taurus reflecting his concern around being accepted by others, also Libra sits on the 11th house cusp where the ruler of his Sun in Aquarius sits, Uranus, along with his North Node in Scorpio suggesting he would bump up against this need for peace, the need to be acknowledged and not torn apart once again. This Mars trine an Aquarius Sun will help him get over this apparent need whereby his creative life purpose to awaken the masses will become more important than what anyone thinks about his findings. The Sun in Aquarius also trines Amazon in Libra as Amazon conjuncts his natal Mars. Amazone as an archetype is courageous beyond measure. She is the embodiment of self reliance and could care less what other people think about her. Amazone connects to where any Soul takes the lead in their life, for she represents a desired determination to stop at nothing that she knows to be right and true, a relentless warrior and a true leader. Amazone can be tricky in Libra unless this archetype is well aspected which in his case via the trine to his Sun in Aquarius, this allows for this Soul to see both sides of the situation and to use this instinctual diplomacy from learning from the past to bring his work out to society artfully and carefully. This past piece is shown with his Mars and Amazone in Libra, ruled by Venus in Aries, Venus being the ruler of his South Node, Venus trines Saturn and Neptune balsalmic in Sag, a true culmination of lifetimes of efforts and attempts, of hiding and of traumas. His Sun's trine to Mars gives him an added edge to see this thing through, for his passionate and willful desire to win for the sake of the truth, for nothing is more important in the end than truth. The Sun trine Mars/Amazone in Libra in the 10th square Moon in Cap is a statement to "˜get off the fence of fear' and with the trine to his Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd to make manifest and materialize all of his innovative discoveries. The Sun in Taurus in Aquarius in the 2nd also has to do with his ideas, inventions, innovations finally coming together as if all of the ingredients are formulated to complete a recipe that works, a recipe that is well balanced for success, Sun trine Mars in Libra in the 10th.


The Sun  in Aquarius' trine to Mars in Libra is also suggesting this Soul will need a partner, perhaps a wife who is in support of his genius and perhaps even being an editor in his writing, an objective eye, and you can see that she would have been instrumental, ruler of the South Node in Taurus is Venus in Aries in the 3rd,  this trines Saturn and Neptune balsamic in Sag. Also the ruler of his 7th, partner, is Mercury in Pisces in the 3rd which is balsamic to his Pluto and also trines his Uranus in Scorpio, the ruler of his Sun. They have no doubt been around the bend together on this journey so she may be as Soul invested as he is to see this journey come to an honest and rightful close, again Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd disseminating trine to Mars in Libra. The Sun in Aquarius is also balsalmic to the Moon in Cap, ruler Saturn balsalmic to Neptune in Sag in the 12th trine Venus in Aries, the South Node ruler. This is seen with the 5th house ruler being Mars in Libra which trines his 2nd house Sun, also, Venus in Aries, the ruler of his South Node trines Saturn and Neptune balsamic in Sag in the 12th.

His Original Lilith is in Taurus in the 5th, restating his special sense of destiny in decoding the natural laws of Mother Earth and all her living beings, Original Lilith in Taurus  ~ The ruler is Venus in Aries trine Saturn and Neptune (ruler of his Pluto in Pisces) in the 3rd. This trines Chiron in Aquarius which is balsalmic to the SUN in Aquarius, to finally heal this wound connected to his own individual/unique nature. The trauma from the past connected to how he was created is also seen with Original Lilith in Taurus oppose Uranus, the ruler of his Sun, in Scorpio conjunct his North Node, traumatized for what he has creatively unearthed, essentially traumatized for how God made him and what he was meant to bring to this world. He was designed to be an earth teacher, a biologist of sorts, to wake people up and open their eyes, to disseminate natural laws and expand people's understanding of creation without limits, Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd, trine Uranus, the ruler of his Sun in Aquarius and the North Node. With the Sun in Aquarius square resolution Lilith in Taurus in the 6th, this reflects the doubt that will inevitably return along the way, but with Res Lilith's trine to the Moon in Cap in the 2nd, it speaks to his inventions standing the test of time, or that over time, this doubt/fear will progressively leave him and that he will become unattached to stigmas and negative naysayers. Also this could represent a woman in his life, perhaps his wife, Moon in Cap that helps him carry on and through, ruler Saturn, balsamic to Neptune in Sag, and finish this thing for good.

When looking at where the sign Leo resides in the chart, as the Sun is the natural ruler for Leo, it spans from midway through the 8th into the 9th, ruling the 9th house cusp suggesting he will get his power back, 8th house, by following through with the evolutionary intentions of his Soul,observing laws of nature, coming to understand the Whole of the truth, which will have a timeless impact on people's beliefs with Leo making a natural grand trine to his Saturn and Neptune in Sag in the 12th as well as his South Node ruler Venus in Aries. He will use his life force and his passion to extend beyond the perceived limits, follow his natural intuition and impulses to bring these truths and teachings to the world.

The Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd, ruler Uranus station in Scorpio suggests it is in his heart to survive all that is necessary, against all odds, in order to bring his observations to light, and to be a powerful innovative force on this planet ~ This is his creative life purpose!

Peace,
Kristin
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Mar 13, 2013, 08:29 AM
Hi Gray,

Simply excellent EA work, with very accurate EA reasoning being used to understand why the Soul chose the Sun sign that it did and how it manifested in the individual Soul context of this chart.

This is how EA is meant to be done.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Mar 13, 2013, 08:43 AM
Hi Kristin,

Wonderful EA work on the chart we are working with, your EA reasoning behind your analysis being superb, and the understanding of why this Soul chose the Sun sign that it did is exceptional.

This is how EA is meant to be done.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: mirta on Mar 15, 2013, 09:25 AM
Hi Rad and All
The signs in the cusp of the houses are also preexisting patterns?
How can we differentiate what is prior lives background and what is evolutionary intention in the house cusps?

Thanks so much
God Bless
Mirta
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Mar 15, 2013, 10:39 AM
Quote from: mirta on Mar 15, 2013, 09:25 AM
Hi Rad and All
The signs in the cusp of the houses are also preexisting patterns?
How can we differentiate what is prior lives background and what is evolutionary intention in the house cusps?

Thanks so much
God Bless
Mirta


Hi Mirta,

The signs on the cusp reflect the current life structure within the consciousness of the Soul. Each sign is ruled by a planet, and all planets have their S.Nodes. And those S.Nodes also have planetary rulers with aspects to them in most cases. Thus the past which is brought forwards into the current life structural nature of the consciousness within the Soul.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Linda on Mar 15, 2013, 04:58 PM
Hi Rad,

I have just noticed that the chart we are working on
does not have any main planets in retrograde motion.

Could you please tell me the meaning of this from an
EA point of view?

The Lunar Nodes are Rx, as well as Lucifer and Amazone.

All the planetary North Nodes in the southern hemisphere
(houses 7 to 12) are Retrograde.

Thank you,

Linda
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Mar 16, 2013, 08:43 AM
Quote from: Linda on Mar 15, 2013, 04:58 PM
Hi Rad,

I have just noticed that the chart we are working on
does not have any main planets in retrograde motion.

Could you please tell me the meaning of this from an
EA point of view?

The Lunar Nodes are Rx, as well as Lucifer and Amazone.

All the planetary North Nodes in the southern hemisphere
(houses 7 to 12) are Retrograde.

Thank you,

Linda

Hi Linda,

From an EA point of view this means that all the archetypes that correlate with whatever planets that are not retrograde are experiencing a necessary 'consolidating' relative to the evolutionary intentions that have preceded the current life. The retrograde archetype is cyclically or continually redefining itself so there does come times in which the Soul needs to consolidate into a stable whole the archetypes that are not retrograde in order for a sense of Soul stability to be experienced/ realized.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Mar 16, 2013, 09:45 AM
Hi Rad, just wanted to check in - I'll be getting on a plane today and intend to work on this this weekend/early week.
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Linda on Mar 17, 2013, 05:19 AM
Why the current life Sun?


"Everything dies, and things die for no reason and to no apparent end.
And their death is painful. And, that process of living and dying
produces something amazing and beautiful and astonishing.

- Charles Darwin


The core underlying desire of the Soul is the development of the mind and intellect in order to understand the "whole truth" of the phenomenal world.  This desire was facilitated by the creation of past life egocentric personalities that could actualize the Soul's intention by means of creating a special purpose to act as messenger to the consensus world.  The Soul desired to expand its intellectual framework, to come out of self-enforced limitations and isolation that had provided psychological and emotional security, and create and develop a special purpose in its own unique manner that would benefit the collective of Souls.  

The Soul needed to throw off any existing limitation relative to understanding the whole truth.  This created deep restlessness and an accelerated evolutionary dynamic in the Soul which was expressed in the current life Sun Aquarius 2nd, by means of the Soul integrating the current life intentions.  The placement and sign of every planet in the chart is chosen by the Soul for its ongoing evolutionary intentions.  The Sun is ruled by Uranus (conj NN) ruled by Pluto (the Soul itself).  Uranus is stationing, meaning that the force of evolution is accelerated and magnified.  Uranus is positioned in its natural house.  None of the planets in the chart are in retrograde motion.  This means the Soul is ready to consolidate the evolutionary intentions that have preceded the current life.  The Sun in the 2nd house reaffirms the need of the Soul to consolidate all aspects of itself which will allow the actualization of its special destiny to be integrated in a grounded, centred and steady way.              

The Sun Aquarius 2nd gives purpose and meaning and is the means by which the evolutionary intentions are integrated into the life.  The natural sign of the 11th house (Aquarius) containing Uranus and the North Node, was chosen by the Soul to be the Sun in the next life.  Everything revolves around the Sun, therefore the entire evolutionary paradigm revolves around the Sun.  Here ambitions, goals and aspirations are allowed to grow, thrive and shine through personal will and power.  The Sun sign expression naturally wants approval and special recognition.  However, there is a paradox operating in the Sun in Aquarius correlating to extremities and conflicts in the Leo-Aquarius archetypes.  While Leo (Sun) needs attention for itself, Aquarius is more concerned with what it can offer the overall social system.  The Soul will swing from one extreme to the other creating a need or drive to integrate and reconcile the opposites within itself.

The choice of this Sun restates the natural opposition between the SN Taurus 5th and the NN Scorpio 11th dynamic, the past evolving into the future, and gives a clue to the Soul's special purpose having progressed considerably in the current life but not without resistance, frustration and conflict.  There had been a constant need for emotional validation and recognition from others (5th ruled by Mars 10th), especially from the established order.  The Sun forming a t-square to the Lunar Nodes by sign indicates developmental stress carried over from past lives whereby the Soul's current life purpose and need to fully actualize it was thwarted because of the struggle to evolve from the past to the future.  The solution to this development stress came through objectively identifying the blocks and attempting to resolve them through the creative principle of the Sun, pushing through with personal will and power.  The Sun's position, a very wide 13 deg away from forming skipped steps with the Nodes, was a distant forewarning that evolution would only proceed if the creative principle was given personal significance, meaning and value.  The Sun in the sign of Aquarius represents accelerated evolution, therefore the Soul would be able to grow in leaps and bounds and individuate from external and internal conditioning patterns.  

The trauma signature of Uranus conj NN correlates to past life dynamics being re-lived as well as the element of karmic fruition of bringing special qualities into the current life.  This archetype had been embraced by the Soul just previous to the current life, and continued to evolve through a de-conditioning process.  The information that the Soul had been collecting and the ideas that it had been formulating in the previous life were starting to take on a revolutionary quality, breaking through consensus conditioning patterns.  However, this only caused fear, shock and trauma.  The old beliefs, cultural truths, values, theories and hypotheses that the Soul had embraced for many lifetimes no longer provided a sense of personal meaning or security.  

With Uranus (ruler of the Sun) conj NN the Soul did not know what to believe or what to think because he was moving into an unknown that could not be defined.  He was struggling to break free beyond the consensus and beyond his own limitations yet he could not consciously define what he was trying to move into.  Therefore, he simply chose to go with what "˜worked,' that is, he retreated back to the security patterns of Pluto, SN, NN, PPP.  The repeating of all of these dynamics lead to resistance, fear, mental-spiritual trauma, and dissociative states because the Soul could no longer control its reality as defined by the past.  It had reached a brick wall that only the sudden accelerated force of evolutionary change could remedy.  Therefore, it had been necessary for these bottom line orientations to be redefined and transformed (Uranus) through inner and outer confrontations with others thus revealing the limitations.  These confrontations caused reflection to take place within the Soul so that it could continue in its ongoing discoveries of the whole truth in relation to the whole of creation.  

The choice of the current life Sun Aquarius 2nd would focus around the proposed changes to his cherished value system.  Since he had become stuck in survival mode for many lifetimes with the effect of limiting his consciousness to new values, experiences, visions, knowledge and relationships, the current life Sun would enable him to compare his value system with others.  He would naturally gravitate toward experiences of withdrawal to discover these from within.  In the 3rd stage Individuated he identified himself as the resource for self-sustainment.  Through the revelation of his limitations, he would learn how to open up to others and how to apply his unique capabilities, his true unique self, to society by applying himself in ways that are compatible with others' value systems.  Therefore, he learned how to share his knowledge with others.  What created value and meaning for himself was shared with others.  He would be able to examine his internal dynamics, motivational patterns and reasons for why he desired certain resources and his values around them.  In this way, he created a new way of relating to himself and a redefined value system that allowed for growth.  He was able to build stronger "inner" resources, self-sufficiency, autonomy, self-reliance, inner strength, and stability so that the special purpose could be revealed and expressed at the appointed time.

The Aquarian Sun in the 2nd house meant that financial structures would suffer instability by way of sudden losses and gains, but also "˜lucky,' surprise blessings from the bounty of the Universe or from key people with karmic debts to repay (Moon ruled by Saturn Sag 12th).  Financial stability had been crucial, not only for family survival, but to fund the special projects, ongoing study and research, purchase of books and equipment, as well as financing a considerable amount of world travel.  The financial structures made it possible for the Soul's evolutionary intentions to be fulfilled.

The Soul choice of a 2nd house Aquarian Sun is to do with where the Soul left off in the most recent past life, as well as the necessity to re-live the specific traumatic experiences of particular past lives that had left a residue of wounding in the Soul.  The Soul would face all of these issues again while being grounded at the same time.  This would mean having to re-live the traumatic experience of losing a child or several children in order to heal the Soul.  Because of the trauma associated with the loss of children, he built walls around his emotions, cutting himself off from his feelings and keeping them buried.  Dealing with people and situations in a highly intellectual manner created periodic sudden eruptions of emotion.  Since the 2nd house is naturally ruled by Taurus (sign of the South Node), there is a repeating theme of trauma associated with children - and since the South Node resides in the 5th house, this means the 1st child born, that is, trauma associated with the death of the eldest child.  

Opening himself up to new experiences, constantly fired up and accelerated by Uranus (ruler of the Sun) conj NN, and the developmental stress of the t-square by sign to the Lunar Nodes, on a moment-to-moment basis (Moon 2nd house) would become the basis of re-traumatisation.  With Uranus in the 11th house, he would come face to face with the shocking reality that he had not been living his life authentically, according to his true nature.  Since inner security is constituted primarily through what is recognizable and familiar, he would suffer enormous mental stress under internal and external pressures.  It became necessary for him to step back, objectify and take a dispassionate view of all his traumatic experiences.  This would lead to self-knowledge, liberation from the old, and allow him to radically change himself according to his new values.

Uranus (ruler of Sun) conj NN Scorpio would enable new choices to be made in the face of the past (Pluto paradigm), thus evolving the past by way of the individuation process.  The individuation process in the current life necessarily took many ups, downs, twists and turns.  The Soul had to bring the deep unconscious (Uranus) toward conscious awareness (Sun), and to shed light upon the authentic self.  The individuation process included:

-  receiving sudden flashes of insight that lead to stunning revelations;  
-  healing the Soul through accessing past life memories held within the long-term memory containing traces of unresolved serious trauma that manifested as problematic mental, emotional and physical circumstances;  
-  re-living key traumatic imprints all over again followed by experiencing the world as safe and secure again;
-  liberating from the control mechanisms employed by church and state;  
-  growing into his full unique potential, his authentic self;  
-  working as a group of one to consolidate and strengthen the special purpose;  
-  penetrating deeply to understand, synthesize and consolidate the new information;
-  creating a startling new philosophical idea the effect of which would have a cataclysmic impact and "timeless" effect upon how the world understands life itself.  

Mars trine Sun - liberation from the past life memories of societal conditioning patterns would be effected quite easily. He would be able to objectify the nature of any consensus pattern in his life, any value system, cultural belief, religious idea, or commonplace philosophy, by understanding and seeing it for what it actually is independent of any subjective interpretation.  This also meant that his work, his social purpose, would be rooted in correlation and observation.  This aspect allowed the scientific research into the natural world and the new systems of thought to be integrated quite rapidly into the consensus world.  

Mars ruling the 5th house (containing the South Node) and Venus ruling the 11th house (containing the North Node) - the Soul had put considerable energy into its evolutionary intentions and purposes in recent past lives.  Venus in mutual reception with Mars - his relationship dynamics and social position would also evolve, his wife, colleagues and societal friends proving to be key supports.  Venus semisqu Sun - some resistance and insecurity based on the fear of moving into unknown territory, and the adoption of new information that would have a traumatizing or liberating effect. The Soul's past desires had been actualized through Venus Aries 3rd (ruler of South Node) where the Soul had created a personal sense of self-value through the information it had gathered for the consensus world (Venus ruled by Mars Libra 10th).  The past conditioning pattern or the past "˜reality' (Mars Libra 10th) describes the collection of information based upon time-honoured consensus ideas.  This is also reflected by the mutual reception between Mars and Venus (conj IC), a deep desire to establish security for self and family.  

Moon semisex Sun (bals) - clarity in the form of complete conceptions and ideas, desire to create a "timeless vision," a new philosophical idea in the context of his culture/time, considered strange and different by others who do not understand or comprehend what he is attempting to do.  The ability to allow new patterns, thoughts, ideas and impulses to enter the consciousness of their own accord thus illuminating the path to the future.  

Chiron squ Nodes - the Chirotic wounding created a dissociative state, parts of the psyche splitting away from the whole.  Ruler of Chiron, Uranus Scorpio (conj NN), ruled by Pluto Pisces, could indicate a kind of hysteria or severe panic/anxiety stored in the Soul.  The original Chirotic intense wounding experiences threatened the Souls' relationship to itself, its own needs and values, and therefore impacted upon a sense of meaning of life (ruler Uranus ruled by Pluto Pisces).  The Soul chose a current life Sun in the same sign and house as Chiron in order to re-live the wounding experience but also to develop new ways of "survival" by meeting his own needs that had come to a stop due to the traumatic experiences.  


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Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Mar 17, 2013, 10:20 AM
Hi Linda,

While I was reading through your brilliant EA work relative to the Soul's choice of the Sun sign in the current life I suddenly remember, don't know how long ago now, when you first came to our message board. Remembered how dedicated you made yourself to this sacred EA work in such a way that your natural evolutionary progression in terms of understanding it became ever more evident. Remembering where you started and now, yet again, reading your EA analysis is just so inspiring to me because of your own evolutionary development in understanding this work.

Your EA analysis here is simply brilliant.

One thing I would like to mention for your own contemplation is where your rightly pointed out the impact of traumas for him relative to children: loosing them. Relative to his on ongoing evolution, the 'whole truth', reflect on the fact that his Venus in Aries which is the ruler of his S.Node is trine his 12th House Saturn/ Neptune conjunction in Sagittarius. And is inconjunct his natal Uranus in Scorpio in the 11th which is ruled by his Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd. Both the N.Nodes of Venus and Mars are also conjunct his Venus. And now reflect on how his first child, after her death, came to him from the astral realm in various ways of communicating with him. This intention was many but one of the core intentions was to help his Soul understand the 'whole truth' of Creation itself.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Off the Cusp on Mar 17, 2013, 02:40 PM
I am brand-new to this board and have already been out of step -- but am very much encouraged by the fact that at one point even the author of the brilliant piece above, was new too.  I'm wanting to comment specifically on the meaningful insights of her thought process and the remarkable synchronicity that attended their arrival at my station this morning.
I've wanted to participate in your discussions since as it happens, I am a veritable Walking Demonstration of Jeffrey Wolf Green's teachings, born with SNode conjunct Pluto, NNode in Aquarius and a 9th house Jupiter "skipped step."  Uranus is on the cusp of the 11th conjunct Mercury, Virgo ascending, I am not gay (but maybe just haven't found the right person yet), a lifelong astrologer and spiritual seeker, 60YO native and lifelong resident of Colorado. 
Alas, since the Nodes run from the S in the 12th, my past seems closed off to me (perhaps mercifully). I feel these energies but can't access them very well -- so they "act out" in my life instead; from that perspective they're naturally easy to analyze, but challenging to heal and resolve. 
Recently I contacted one of your former (I'm sure also ongoing) and most expert students for consultation and benefited enormously from that contact, am sure we will be working together more in the future especially since a seminar here is planned later this year.  That person was much impressed with this charted illustration of EA principles! and used his expertise learned here, by "cracking open" some of the "lost" 12th house information, much appreciated as you can imagine.
Midpoint of the transiting Uranus/Pluto transit is falling on that NNode of mine, and you'll never guess the ascendant degree of this year's solar return (yup) so I'm to approach these issues and somehow find a way to Return The Gift no matter how scared I am ... so I'm haunting your place in search of the mettle to do so and have found Courage everywhere I looked.  Every paragraph of the piece Linda posted was significant, and reading it was like following a path of stars across the desert.   
It's a little unclear whether you welcome the submission of charts and I don't want to seem intrusive by posting the data.  At the same time, I think my consultant would agree these should become part of any roster of EA research materials since they so aptly illustrate the principles of Jeffrey Wolf Green's teachings, so please let me know.  Meanwhile, please know how your wise voices have reached my welcoming ears, and touched me to the Plutonian core!
In thanks -- Kathy
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Mar 18, 2013, 08:46 AM
Kathy,

As I said before we do not do personal charts on this message board: it is one of the rules that you should have read when you signed up. We do on occasion do that but only in very specific cases with with established members who have actively contributed to this message board: not just take from it.

One suggestion is this: learn EA yourself so that you can unravel yourself from within yourself instead of relying on others to do that for you.

God Bless, Rad

Here is  segment of the rules all those who sign up read:

3) Policy on personal chart interpretation and analysis:
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   At times there can be a fine line between what is of personal interest and what is of general interest.  Our moderators reserve the right to remove or to request that you remove any material posted they feel is personal chart interpretation.
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Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Mar 19, 2013, 08:01 AM
Hi Gonzalo, Upasika, Mirta, Ari ...

Please let me know if you still plan on posting for the next step concerning the Sun in the chart we are working on.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Mar 19, 2013, 08:55 AM
Hi Rad, yes I'm working on this today.
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: mirta on Mar 19, 2013, 11:44 AM
Hi Rad,
I am in the phase of language revision; it takes time to me and I cannot do it today. I hope that tomorrow wednesday it wil be finished.
Thank you, God Bless
Mirta
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Mar 19, 2013, 04:27 PM
Hi Rad,

Yes I'm going to be posting, have been working on it but also been very busy - hoping to be able to post within the next couple of days.

thanks Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: mirta on Mar 20, 2013, 02:22 PM
Hi Rad and Group

A partial approach to SUN's choice:
Sun is in 2nd house in Aquarius, ruler of 9th house that hosts PPP; ruled by Uranus in 11th house Scorpio conjunct NN, ruled by Pluto in 3rd house in Pisces. Sun is the natural ruler of 5th house that hosts the SN in Taurus, ruled by Venus in Aries, and natural ruler of Sun's house.
Repeating themes:  2nd, 5th and 11th houses.
2nd house: SN in Taurus in a solar house ruled by Venus, natural ruler of Sun. (2nd - 5th); Moon in 2nd house, Chiron in 2nd house square the nodes; SN Pluto and Venus in 2nd house conjunct Moon; SN Neptune (Pluto's ruler) in 2nd.
11th house ruled by Venus, hosting NN conjunct Uranus and NN Chiron; Sun in Aquarius; Chiron in Aquarius square the nodes.
These repeating themes in the fixed cross interweave with repeating themes in the mutable cross.

Vibratory modality: With Pluto in 3rd house in Pisces together with Mercury, Jupiter, Venus Pallas, Ceres, Juno and Sophia, ruled by Neptune conjunct Saturn in Sag in 12th house, this Soul came to this life with a background predominantly mutable, and the evolutionary intention is also in a mutable house and sign.
However, or because of the large and deep dimension of its evolutionary purpose in 3rd individuated state, the Soul has been developing conscious structures provided with a fixed energy by sign and house, yet has been flip-flopping between fixed signs and houses
In addition, in this lifetime Pluto, it's PP and their rulers even in mutable signs are hosted by houses whose cusps are in fixed signs, while the nodes in fixed signs are hosted by houses with cardinal signs in their cusps.
The intention of deepening the knowledge about reality and Life needed the determination and capacity to concentrating energy that belongs to fixed, centripetal, energy in order to sustain the convictions and steadily persist in the goal of establishing them in society; therefore a Taurus SN in 5th house.
This could be done through a new and active self actualization (5th house in Aries) and a careful consideration of society's expectations and especially what it needs in order to evolve (10th and 11th house in Libra).

However, the fixed Taurean energy while less evolved manifested mostly as a need of security that was a hindrance to creatively actualizing the purpose.
Fixed signs resist changes in the physical plane, but are able to achieve deep transformations, metamorphosis, because of the concentration of its centripetal energy and its firm and stable will. Thus, in order to resolve the flip-flopping and actualize the intention the Soul still choose a fixed energy, but able to firmly sustain and provide the conditions to achieve the Promethean evolutionary intention: therefore an Aquarian, Promethean, survivor, 2nd house Sun septile asteroid Prometheus in 1st house.
The Soul choose a Sun able to actualize the evolution of its fixed energy from individual security to a steady promotion of a change, a revolution, in the social and cultural conscience and belief system; leaving behind its "frog in the well" fixed modality by means of a Scorpion openness and ability to overcome limitations, evolution was actualized by an Aquarian, objective and detached, fixity able to supporting the subtlety and mind-openness of its mutable background and intention.

"Yet the underlying and primary desire within this Soul is constant and continuous understandings and discoveries that will ultimately lead to a knowing of the 'whole truth' relative to the 'nature of all things', of life itself." (Rad)
The "whole truth" is symbolized in the mutable cross, the Soul intends to be subtle, flexible and pliant . . . to God, to Natural Law, not to society; society's beliefs and pressure must be resisted and changed.
In former lives the Soul accepted challenges but they led to persecutions and was also stopped by needs of personal security.
Therefore, in order to actualize the evolutionary intention and resolve the hindrances created by this need of individual security, the Soul choose a fixed Sun in a fixed 2nd house, provided with enough self-reliance and confidence in Its inner resources and values; enough stubborn and patient as to persist in its goal and lead cultural beliefs out to religious consensus, yet cautious as to secure self preservation and acceptation of these revolutionary values.
The creative actualization of the Soul's purpose intended to develop a firm, courageous and rebellious spirit, necessary to revolutionize social values regarding Humanity, human species.
With this Sun the Soul intended to integrate the open-mindedness and ability to search and find the new, using skillful means with the firmness and solidity of fixed energy. These features coexist in its Aquarius Sun ruled by Uranus in Scorpio, whose SN is in 1st house Sag conjunct SN Mars and sextile Sun.

The Soul brings an Aquarian wound and skipped steps; with Chiron involved where is the wound is also the healing.
Chiron suggests a wound in the individuated unconscious of having been permeable to the influence of collective thinking and values, based on a difficulty to define the limits within the "other's" mind because of a lack in confidence in the soul's or individuals values,  rooted in family  and/or deeply ingrained in the self-image as a result of consensual persecutions.(Chiron ruled by Uranus in Scorpio in 11th house ruled by Pluto in Pisces in 3rd house; SN Chiron in 4th house in Aries, ruled by Mars in Libra in 10th house, square SN Saturn and Pluto in Cap in 2nd house conjunct SN Venus, ruler of SN)
Indeed the Soul has been flip-flopping between this permeability and a Taurean narcissistic defense; independence and liberation has also been tried but needs to be affirmed in this life.
Thus, with Chiron NN in 11th house Scorpio conjunct Resolution NN and Uranus, liberation from collective thinking is the way to achieve the evolutionary intention, and at the same time the possibility of changing the collective mind if the individual is able to sustain his individual values and beliefs and give them objective and concrete form. Therefore, a healing Sun in 2nd house Aquarius, ruler of 9th house that hosts PPP (the evolutionary intention depends on Sun)

Sun in Aquarius reflects that this life's purpose is liberation from old security patterns and its progressive conditionings through prior lifetimes, through finding the inner strength to affirm the Soul's values even risking to be a group of one.
The integration of the purpose for this life will revolve around  the ability to objectify Reality as to develop a belief system aligned with Natural Law; to objectify cultural and collective values detached from emotions and knowing its deep foundations, and to objectify social reality aware of what are society's evolutionary needs , free of consensus conditionings.(Sun ruler of 9th house; ruled by Uranus in 11th house in Scorpio; SN Mars in Sag conjunct SN Uranus;  disseminating trine Mars in Libra in 10th house).
The disseminating trine of Mars to Sun reflects the Soul's refinement of the social consciousness as well as the intention and ability of establishing the innovative purpose in society based in a prior crisis in consciousness. (Mars disseminating square Moon and SN Pluto, Saturn and Venus, Mars ruler)

Soul's values in this life are to be centered in a timeless vision; the Sun in Aquarius develops this vision and expresses these values detaching the individual from his time's values with a clear, objective awareness of what needs to be changed for consensus evolution to proceed. (2nd house ruler Saturn in 12th house in Sag balsamic to Neptune; SN Saturn balsamic semisextile Sun; Sun DP trine Mars in 10th house).

Collective Narcissistic Wound: The evolutionary intention of knowing and communicating the whole truth requires the ability to objectify Reality and that means detachment from narcissism at individual as well as at collective level.
Freud said that his discovering of Unconscious was the 3rd Humanity's "narcissistic wound". The 1st was inflicted by Copernicus: the Earth isn't the centre of the Universe, and the 2nd was Darwin's discovering that man wasn't created as the center of Creation.
Furthermore, as well as individual survival is related to collective survival, individual knowledge of truth is related to collective knowledge.Thus, creative actualization of this soul's special purpose was linked with healing man's fractured cosmic consciousness and help to restore the human integrated relation with nature, with the whole Creation: a 2nd house Aquarius Sun to heal a collective 2nd (5th-11th) house Aquarian wound.   

An agent of transformation, harbinger of a new (natural) science; feminine thought
"When asteroids themes are prominent in an individual's chart, they denote a personality in which the power of the transformative principle can be operative. Often these persons become vehicles in the general society through which old, crystallized structures, attitudes and values are destroyed, then renewed and regenerated. Consequently, their lives are marked by crisis of individuality challenging the established path of mass consciousness." (Demetra George)
It's interesting to notice that the asteroids themes related to the specific purpose of this life involve "feminine" thought, which is inclusive and focused on processes more than on results.
Also that all the feminine thinking asteroids, as well as Mercury and Jupiter and Jupiter's NN, which is FQP trine Sun, are ultimately ruled by Jupiter and Neptune in mutual reception.

Sun conjunct Pallas in Aquarius and Sophia in Pisces, both in 3rd house; inconjunct Urania and NN Sophia in Virgo(conjunct PPP) in 9th house; trine Scientia in 7th house; biseptile Pandora conjunct NN Uranus
Asteroid Pallas conjunct Sun suggests the image of Pallas Athena, the hero's close companion and advisor , who values and inspires in him audacity, victorious will and bravery, but only if he manifests dignity, serenity and prudence (Pallas disseminating trine Mars in Libra).
Pallas thought is one of proximity, in 3rd house and conjunct 9th house ruler she also expresses the voyager naturalist that sought direct knowledge and proof in the empirical world. The capacities for inspired vision, intuition, curiosity, genius and exceptional perception provide mental-creativity to the individual's identity and purpose. She facilitates the creation of ideas and theories that benefit and lead future generations.
Sophia, symbol of God's feminine wisdom, represents the intent of finding the whole truth of Life and God/dess Law as inherent to the purpose.( Sun conjunct Sophia and its SN in Pisces, which is square its ruler Neptune balsamic Saturn in Sag in 12th , conjunct Mercury and its SN, trine NN Jupiter and NN Chiron)
Urania, the principle of cosmic knowledge, represents a deep thinker who draws upon her inspiration to uncover mental treasures. She symbolizes the soul's inspirational understanding and mental astuteness to uncover natural laws and actualizing the evolutionary purpose, and reflects the purpose of clarifying through analysis the individual awareness of social limitations, and especially of clarifying the evolutionary intent in a microcosmic as well as macrocosmic sense. It is also a hint of the deep understanding of the need of social humility. (Sun FP inconjunct Urania and NN Sophia; Urania in 9th house Virgo conjunct PPP and NN Sophia, ruled by Mercury in Pisces trine Saturn balsamic Neptune in Sag in 12th; trine SN Mars and Uranus in Sag and NN Mars)
In addition, asteroid Pandora who "serves as an intermediary in the octave progression between Mercury and Uranus "(Demetra George), is biseptile Sun and conjunct the NN of its ruler Uranus, emphasizing the special individualized destiny of this soul related to knowledge and collective evolution.

Thanks Rad for your wise guidance and patient dedication
God Bless
Mirta


Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Mar 21, 2013, 10:29 AM
Hi Mirta,

It is such a treat for me to experience your own ongoing development and capacity relative to EA. Your analysis was excellent, and your EA reasoning being extremely sound. This is how EA is meant to be done.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Mar 21, 2013, 10:30 AM
Sun analysis.

Here is what I was able to put together - I'll follow your feedback and other people's posts here and allow that to inform me. In gratitude.

Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd house. Sun crescent phase semi square IC and Venus and disseminating phase sesquiquad the MC.
Disseminating trine with Mars
First quarter quintile with south node.

Ruler Uranus conjunct north node in Scorpio in 11th house. Uranus ruler of skipped step planet, Chiron also in Aquarius in 2nd house.

The Sun's position, Aquarius in the 2nd house, correlates to a life purpose that is focused, on one level, to awakening the inner freedom to live in accordance with his innate natural values - and thus a current life focus to liberate from all kinds of past conditioning that has inhibited his own embodiment and ability to live. On another level, given his ea stage, it's about - through the process of deconditioning and liberation - objectively coming to see more of the total picture as it relates to survival - seeing his own body, sexuality, procreation, food, resources, the entire realm of survival from a higher, more encompassing objective perspective - and living that, even if it sets him totally a part from others.

So why that Sun sign then? That Sun, as well as the skipped step planet Chiron is ruled by Uranus which is on the North node. This correlates to an area in his soul that is highly developed, and yet also unfinished business - Chiron squaring that node. The ruler of that nn is Pluto which is naturally linked to the sn and to its ruler, Venus, which is on the IC. The Sun is in a crescent phase square with the IC and Venus, which is ruled by Mars in Libra in the 10th house which is in a disseminating phase trine with the Sun.

This correlates to a dynamic within prior lives wherein the soul has been actively pursuing it's own path of self discovery - which has often subjected the soul to criticism from society (Venus gibbous phase with Mars in the 10th, Mars and Venus in mutual reception too). This really emphasizes the stress of him following his own path and the need to form his identity and special purpose in a way that also integrates within society according to accepted social standards. This would relate in part to how he would set about gaining the necessary credentials - who to listen to, who not to listen to etc - in order to learn and do what his soul desired to learn and do. Also that the MC itself is gibbous phase inconjuct the sn.

This soul has perceived basic laws and principals (Pluto in the 3rd relative to it's polarity point as facilitated by the north node in Scorpio in the 11th) and has been rejected on the basis of those ideas - often experiencing the trauma of groups of people forming against him. This has taught him a lot about how groups think (Uranus on the nn 11th) and how to interact, socialize in a world full of people with various values (Mars in Libra in the 10th in gibbous phase with Venus on IC in Aries, ruler of sn). A lot of his past, which really makes the Sun position make a lot of sense, is where he was disillusioned by way of all kinds of beliefs that he wanted to believe in, only to realize at some point the imperfect, the non absolute nature of those beliefs. With the Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd, this is about finding the value and meaning of his own life in his own way. As I will describe below, there's a new phase semi sextile between Jupiter and the Sun. The Sun is anchoring this soul so that his cosmology comes from within him; organic and true to his own direct observations.

He has been learning how to cooperate in the world as an equal with others, not better than - this is one of the reasons why this soul has created and attracted the kinds of traumas that he has - to teach him, ultimately, the inherent equality of all souls. The strong Venus in Aries on IC and the sn in Taurus in the 5th, and all their gibbous associations to Libra in the 10th implies the lessons of humility and getting out of his own self oriented narrow point of view.

So the fact of Mars being disseminating trine to the Sun means that coming into this life this soul has become ready to creatively actualize his own path - to take destiny into his own hands and fully integrate his creative purpose with the existing social structures with respect to the lessons of social participation and listening as described above. The crescent phase semi square with Venus and the IC, the ruler of Mars and of the sn, points to the intention in this life for this soul, simultaneous to actualizing his purpose in a social sense, to becoming deeply internalized and self reflective as to the nature of his own special purpose. It also means his lesson was to limit his exposure to the ideas and the infinite array of possibilities in terms of what direction he chooses for his mind. This allows him to become ever more internal and to integrate and reflect on his own as to the meaning of his own discoveries.

In general, the phases between all the watery, imaginative and expansive Pisces 3rd house energy and the Sun is new phase, implying lots of new direction and exploration, and yet with Jupiter in a very new new phase semi sextile, its about a focusing and limiting of that direction so that definition can become more established in the thesis he is establishing.

This Jupiter is the ruler of his AC and his Saturn Jupiter - all of which are in a first quarter square with Mercury. Choices relative to how to understand and synthesize the data he is collecting about the environment. The first quarter emphasis implies something new coming forth - something that requires a new perspective that has not yet before been realized.

So bringing all of this back to the Sun it implies that this soul was ready in his life to focus entirely on actualizing his soul's purpose, on his own, through deep reflection so as to allow clear observations and correlations of all the data and research he had pursued. The need to internalize and begin to form a thesis is strong with Jupiter's new phase with the Sun (slowing down) and the square and first quarter phase with all the Sag planets relative to the Mercury and Jupiter in Pisces.

The Sun has a direct connection to the south node through a first quarter quintile. This implies of course that such a purpose has already been engaged. And as stated above, we already have a direct karmic connection to that Sun since it's ruler is on the north node. So there's a great degree of creative energy that this soul simply came into this world to continue where he left off.

Pallas Athene is in a new phase with the Sun - and Pallas kicks off the entire third house, which is ruled by the Sun's ruler - Uranus. So there's a sense of all this new scientific information coming through this soul from a higher source and for this soul to deeply internalize this on his own.

Lastly, the Sun rules the 9th house which then correlates to the nature of his creative purpose: to birth a unique cosmology though developing higher awareness of his own values, of survival, and via the 11th house linkage, the evolutionary dynamics of human beings.

I'm so grateful for this practice. I look really forward to reading what has been posted by everyone else and continuing to follow this process we are doing here.
With much love,
Ari Moshe
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Mar 21, 2013, 10:41 AM
Hi Gonzalo,

This is simply brilliant EA work of great detail as to the inner dynamics and workings within the Soul psychology of Darwin that were the causative factors in all that he thought about and contemplated. Your EA analysis as to why Darwin chose the Sun sign that he did, and how he actualized it within the context of his Soul, is just brilliant work.

This is how EA is meant to be done.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Mar 22, 2013, 11:11 AM
Hi Rad,

Finally managed to get time to write something down. But because it's been a bit rushed it's not written as clearly or as concisely as I would like. I also haven't read any of the others but hope I've properly understood what the requirement was. Thanks for such a great thread.

                            Why is the Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd house?

Pluto is in Pisces in the 3rd house, which reveals that this Soul is pursuing core desires related to the mind, and Mars in a disseminating sesquiquadrate to Pluto shows this to be the 5th primary life for this Soul in this series of lives based on these core desires.

However, we know that this particular life has been a long time in the making, and to enable a full context for the Sun's placement we will go back into the Soul's distant past, where we find the SN Pluto in Capricorn in the 2nd house. This relates to a very different series of lives with core desires revolving around 2nd house issues.  At the most fundamental level the 2nd house relates to physical survival - resources or the lack of them, and being able to provide for oneself. It is a yin area of experience where we withdraw into ourselves to affect the sustainability of our body and our sense of self, and so denotes self-reliance, the ability to persevere without any dependency on anyone else to do so - stubborn endurance.

It also shows how we listen to ourselves, identifying via feelings what is important to us and therefore what we value. This is a highly subjective area, and also depends on a soul's evolutionary state. While some people may value material possessions more than anything else, generally people value themselves before anything else, and in these cases the 2nd house becomes in the first instance a measure of one's self-esteem.  

The SN of Pluto in the 2nd is conjunct the Moon, indicating that the mother and perhaps children have been highly important to this Soul in the past. The Moon is square Mars in the 10th - indicating conflict with authorities affecting his family, with maybe injury or possibly even death involved (Libra can be extremes). Two other close major aspects are a waxing sextile to Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd house and a waning semi-square to Saturn in Sag in the 12th, both indicating natural spirituality was important to the Soul. Saturn is also the ruler of the SN Pluto, and is conjunct Neptune and in the 12th house. This further reinforces an interest in the spiritual side of life.

Interestingly enough, the SN of Saturn is also in the 2nd house in Capricorn conjunct the S.Nodes of Venus, Vesta and Mercury, and these are all also conjunct the Moon and the SN Pluto. Obviously in these distant times issues of survival and self-sufficiency were paramount, with probably heavy suffering at the hand of the authorities of the time, maybe having loved ones thrown into prison, poisoned, or tortured in some way (all these 2nd house points are square to Mars in the 10th, which is sesquiquadrate to Pluto, which is ruled by Neptune - back in the 12th house). So from this we know at the least that this Soul is well acquainted with 2nd house issues, and will have deep soul memories regarding them. We also know that back then the Soul was developing an interest in spirituality, (possibly even as a result of the likely 2nd house trauma it suffered). This soul has obviously been attracted to learning (Jupiter in 3rd in Pisces) religious concepts and scriptures (Saturn conjunct Neptune in the 12th in Sag), and probably clung to organised religion (Saturn/Neptune) as a means of survival (2nd house) and staying sane (Capricorn). The Soul may even have been in the preceding 2nd individuated state in those lives, and hence the clash with authorities creating survival trauma and wounding - a possibility anyway.

Nevertheless it's clear that this soul has awoken to religion and spirituality in the very distant past, from an inner security need (Saturn in 12th, 2nd house), approaching it from both a devotional and also a curious, studious perspective (Neptune in 12th in Sag, Jupiter in 3rd in Pisces). The SN of Jupiter is also in Capricorn but in the 1st, along with the S.Nodes of Mars and Uranus, so a spirit of independence was also clearly present, and probably encouraged the Soul to explore religion and spirituality further via independent and original action and enquiry. What would have started as an urgent need for security would have gradually changed into a new voyage - into a whole new world with more meaning (Neptune in Sag, Jup in Pisces), of more in life than just the material (2nd house). This would have great ramifications for this Soul at a later point in it's evolution (and is also at the root why this Soul had in their incarnation as Darwin so many planets in Pisces, the 12th or aspecting Neptune).

However moving on from those distant lives, a bit closer to the more recent series of lives represented by Pluto in 3rd in Pisces, we can see that the Jupiter is in balsamic phase to Mercury, both also in 3rd in Pisces - indicating a whole cycle of mental enquiry has been undertaken and almost completed regarding Piscean matters - unity & oneness, expressed as religion or spirituality. This enquiry has been of a very deep nature as Mercury is also in balsamic conjunction to Pluto. Obviously things have changed for this Soul along the way, and it has expended a great deal of mental effort in it's desire to learn all it can about things of a cosmic nature, and in the process developed a very formidable mind. This use of the mind has been driven by life and death issues at times (Mercury and Pluto conjuncted by Ceres), and with Mercury and Pluto in full sesquiquadrate with Mars in the 10th, and Jupiter quincunx Mars, clashes with authority have probably happened again, this time most likely over professed beliefs, announcements or arguments of a religious or spiritual nature. Despite the fact that this Soul had obviously become well equipped to understand complex issues on a large scale, it may not have exercised much humility, and with Mercury/Pluto squaring Sat in the 12th probably was thrown into prison again for challenging authority with it's version of the "truth" (Mercury/Pluto.)  Not only that, Uranus in the 11th in Scorpio trines Mercury and Pluto indicating the ease with which this Soul could be traumatised when not being heard. Uranus rules Chiron in the 2nd house, and here we see the wounds that were caused by the 2nd house traumas from long ago. Now this wounded area is added to but in a different way, no longer because of any survival issues, but due to retaliation by the authorities for the challenging of religious opinions - resulting in a wounding to self-esteem. The S.Node of Neptune is also conjunct Chiron further indicating likely intense wounding to the Soul over time from various religious sources.

Now switching lenses and forwarding to current Pluto in 3rd series of core desires, with the S.Node in the 5th in Taurus and N.Node In 11th in Scorpio, we now have a skipped step caused by the accumulated wounding (Chiron in 2nd). In this signature we can see the remnants of the past wilful independence in the Moon's SN ruler, Venus, being in Aries. However it has obviously softened and humbled in stance somewhat since then, now being trine Saturn in the 12th and quincunx Uranus in the 11th. So if the past hardships, suffering from loss of loved ones, and fractured (Aquarius) self esteem from being silenced are the cause of the skipped step, what is the skipped step itself?

The Soul from it's initial curiosity (3rd house) regarding religious and spiritual matters (12th house, Pisces) has inadvertently wandered down a path of ever intensifying enquiry that has had the effect of gradually and literally opening it's eyes "¦ to the amazing wonder of the phenomenal universe. It's interests had continually expanded as a result, ending up far beyond religious security, and extending into all of nature as well as heady philosophical realms e.g what is nature? how does nature work, does God exist? Along the way the Soul has formed it's own revolutionary opinions to these questions and projected these answers forcefully into society (Pluto conj Jup in 3rd, Jup FQ sesquiquadrate Uranus in 11th), and been continually persecuted, punished and ridiculed as a result (Sat/Nep in 12th, Mars in 10th sesq Plu). The irony (Aquarius) is that with such a developed mind the Soul no doubt had a great deal to offer, but was too full of itself, and not aligned with the relevant needs and necessary ways of interaction required with the societies in which it lived. The resulting backlash served to shock the Soul (Chiron in Aquarius) and damage it's self esteem (Chiron in 2nd).

By now, the accumulated wounding for this Soul shown by Chiron in the 2nd in Aquarius has had a very deep impact on the Soul.

It has tried to cope with this by alternating cycles of indulgence in material comfort and self directed pleasures (SN 5th house in Taurus, ruler Venus in Aries), and when bored with that alternating to socialising with intense interest groups who were radical, or antisocial  in some kind of way (NN 11th Scorpio). Of these two alternatives that's seemed to be open to the soul, the later was more helpful in addressing the wound, as it at least helped restore some pride (5th house) to the soul because it's highly intelligent opinions and astute insights would have been accepted. This in turn would have allowed the Soul glimpses of the PPP in 9th in Virgo, which would have been like nectar to the Soul, it would have been a subtle yet exquisite sense of self-realisation (opposite so many 3rd house energies) - a great release of the mind, a satori-like experience.

But the wounded imprint held in the 2nd house was now this Soul's Achilles heel, an unconscious energy disturbance. It ate at Darwin constantly but he refused to see it. In previous lives he had suffered great hardship as a result of loss of love ones. He had also had the primeval instincts of his barbarian side, and his wilfulness, arrogance, and selfishness "¦ all knocked out of him via the ongoing conflicts with authorities and resulting rejection, backlash, punishment, and persecution. Not being recognised by society for his mental contributions and prowess had been extremely deeply traumatic and painful for him (Uranus in 11th FQ square to Chiron). However whichever way the Soul had recently tried it couldn't consistently experience it's PPP, it's nectar, as it's low self esteem wounding would undermine it's whole energy structure. However because it was a deeply painful area of the psyche the Soul continued to avoid it.

The 2nd house is the inner fortification of the self, the substance and basic foundation of self that allows us to function normally. When it is dysfunctional it feels like we are a boat with a hole in it - its very hard to simply stay afloat, let alone do anything meaningful in life. So the skipped step is avoiding repairing this hole, not tending to the wound, so that the great talents (2nd house) and potential for opportunity (Jup new conjunction to Pluto) that this Soul had developed could be put to productive use in society.
Darwin first developed heart trouble as a young man even before sailing on the Beagle voyage, and from then onwards developed stomach inflammation, violent shivering, twitching and nerve spasms, migraines and general nausea. These ailments mostly tended to manifest symptoms when he was "stressed", which at it's worst was merely either socialising for 20 minutes or more, or simply working (which he normally loved). He had avoided his wounds for so long that they had all gone into his body. Physicians could find nothing wrong with him, no physical cause for his symptoms - because it wasn't in any way inherently physical - it was all psychosomatic. So this was his skipped step - not dealing with his psychological wounds over many, many lives. And the most recent of these wounds was the damage to his self esteem. He was in awe at prestigious groups and societies (Chiron in Aquarius), and although ambitious, he had no desire for fame itself, just recognition by other scientists (Chiron in 2nd).

So as a result of all this, by the time this Soul manifested itself as Charles Darwin, it had created a situation in which lifetimes of effort, and then topped off with some lives of eventual stagnation, non-growth, were brought to a head. All the talents were assembled ready and available for use. All the dysfunctions and impediments that had previously sabotaged the personality had been processed and transformed - Darwin was kind, good humoured, pleasant, unassuming and profoundly humble. Only the skipped step remained to be resolved, and the way for that to happen was to focus on the NN in 11th in Scorpio new conjunction Uranus. This was the crucial spot - where the potential for liberation resided. All that was needed was to focus there and stabilise, rather than fall back into the bad habits from previous lifetimes "¦ flip flopping between nodes,  of reaching for the PPP then falling back, then continuing round the same cycle again. Focus. Stabilise. Anchor. And the best place for that as a purpose for the whole life, the place where that could best be integrated from, was the 2nd house (stable, fixed) and Aquarius (fixed).  Also this would force him to face his wounds rather than run away from them., keep his consciousness close to his reality, feet on the ground rather than trying to reach prematurely for the stars (with a leaky boat).

There is great irony in this Soul's journey up to here, and in this life. Darwin's real mission was to find himself, to become self-realised, enlightened. Once he got over clinging to religion for security via conditioned devotion, and starting a mental journey exploring nature and spirituality, this was his original attraction. And because of his wounds he haphazardly moved around in focus from left to right brain, mercury to jupiter ... and back again. Thus he inadvertently developed a most unusal mix of logic and intuition, a fantastic ability for inductive logic, to gather any diverse number of facts and arrange them in generalised groups. It was his proficiency and love of doing this, always wanting to order details into larger meanuingful wholes, that he had developed by accident simply as a very indirect coping mechanism for avoiding his wounds. And these wounds culminated in his life as Darwin as a skipped step, and so he was forced to resolve the skipped step, and the way to do that was to actually get the recognition that he so desperately needed from those intellectuals and scientists that he respected so much. And the way to do that was to focus on the facts of the phenomenal world, nature as it appeared in everyday life, without creating any theories about what they were all about (avoid the PPP) and simply investigate (NN in Scorpio) just what was the factual case and classify it, order it (Pluto in 3rd), and accumulate as many facts as possible. And let this ordering process of the facts induce it's own meaning naturally (and finally by itself the PPP appears). And via this process he discovered what he did, and transformed our understanding of how biological nature works. But he would never have developed the particular mental capacities and skills to do all this, if he hadn't been creating and then needing to resolve his skipped step!

Given his destiny, there were also other benefits from having a 2nd house Aquarius Sun. .

-   He needed to do a lot of painstaking and meticulous work, so a patient, steady 2nd house Sun would be ideal for that

-   He had a special mission to fulfil, so on a larger scale he needed to have a certain fixity of purpose - Aquarius 2nd house would have been very good for that

-   He was destined to change the world with revolutionary ideas that would greatly impact the church, the scientists and the established public consensus. Inevitably he was going to face criticism, rejection, rumours, and public attacks etc for his statements. He needed to be somewhat insular from all these goings on, so that he was not unduly affected and could carry on. Aquarius detachment and 2nd house ability to withdraw into oneself would serve him very well in these situations

- His Sun also has a disseminating trine to Mars in the 10th - perfect for working with others to bring his work to fruition.

- It's ruled by Uranus (new conj NN) and has a biseptile to Uranus. This makes it easy for him to keep in touch with his resolution node, and to bring the full powers of his scientific abilities into play.

- Its conjunct Pallas in 3rd in Aquarius - this gives him access to an ability for psychic visions, or at least glimpses


.. and no doubt many other reasons, but its very late and I must stop.


blessings Upasika

Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Mar 22, 2013, 01:05 PM
Hi Ari,

Thanks for making the effort you have to do the EA of why Darwin chose his Antiquarian Sun sign. Your EA analysis was very succinct, accurate,  and the EA reasoning employed very sound.

This is how EA is meant to be done.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Rad on Mar 22, 2013, 01:14 PM
Hi Upasika,

Thanks for taking the time you have to do the EA of why Darwin chose to have the Aquarius Sun that he did. Your EA analysis of the past that brought him to the life as Darwin was simply exceptional EA, very accurate, the extremely well reasoned. That background is essential in understanding the 'why' of his Soul's choice as to the Sun sign he did choose.

Exceptional EA work Upasika. Bravo.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Mar 22, 2013, 01:16 PM
Hi Upasika, Gonzalo, Kristin, Linda, Mirta, Gray , and Ari

All of you have done wonderful EA work on Darwin's chart to date. I would encourage you and all others who are reading this thread to read all of what you each of you has written for it portrays a complete and accurate understanding of the Soul of Charles Darwin to date.

Next week will begin again.

Until then God bless all of you , Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Mar 25, 2013, 05:14 AM
Hi Rad,

I was wondering about Venus. I have been thinking there is a reasonable likelihood that Venus was actually in the 4th house.

For that to be the case the birth time would only need to be 2 minutes earlier. Which as you've mentioned before also is very plausible, as at the exact birth occurrance itself those present are often fully focussed on that, and its only immediately after that they remember to glance at the clock and that's the time that sticks. Hence in this scenario birth would have been at 2:58 (say), but the clock wasn't sighted until immediately afterwards at 3pm.

I'm also always initially questioning of birth times that occur excactly on the hour, I always suspect that they may have been rounded off to that, although of course it's as possible as any other time.

But the reasons I feel it's likely Venus was in the 4th are...

a) Darwin had decided to marry because, although he knew it would rob him of a great deal of time that he would rather use for doing science, he felt that a wife and family would be a great source of nourishment, both while he was doing his work, and also he knew that as he got older and more vulnerable the children would in turn support him and his wife. Also he did not fancy being alone without a companion when he was older. So for these three reasons he decided to marry. And during his whole life he was always very much a genuine family man. He loved his wife very much, and also all his many children, of which he had quite a few.

b) It also correlates very well with his love of geology. On an external level the 4th house can correlate to real estate, and land in general, and Darwin loved (Venus) exploring land formations.

c) The 4th house is also about attaining inner emotional security. Darwin's mother died when he was 8, which at that age would have removed a major source of external emotional security. He also couldn't talk about it with his sisters as they were too traumatised by her death. So he was thrown back onto himself regarding it, to such an extent that as an adult he realised had lost almost all memory of her, including what she looked like.

I thought I'd ask now before we got any further into it, in case you felt there was any validity in the possibility and it was worth making the adjustment...

thank you & blessings,
Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Mar 25, 2013, 08:55 AM
Quote from: Upasika on Mar 25, 2013, 05:14 AM
Hi Rad,

I was wondering about Venus. I have been thinking there is a reasonable likelihood that Venus was actually in the 4th house.

For that to be the case the birth time would only need to be 2 minutes earlier. Which as you've mentioned before also is very plausible, as at the exact birth occurrance itself those present are often fully focussed on that, and its only immediately after that they remember to glance at the clock and that's the time that sticks. Hence in this scenario birth would have been at 2:58 (say), but the clock wasn't sighted until immediately afterwards at 3pm.

I'm also always initially questioning of birth times that occur excactly on the hour, I always suspect that they may have been rounded off to that, although of course it's as possible as any other time.

But the reasons I feel it's likely Venus was in the 4th are...

a) Darwin had decided to marry because, although he knew it would rob him of a great deal of time that he would rather use for doing science, he felt that a wife and family would be a great source of nourishment, both while he was doing his work, and also he knew that as he got older and more vulnerable the children would in turn support him and his wife. Also he did not fancy being alone without a companion when he was older. So for these three reasons he decided to marry. And during his whole life he was always very much a genuine family man. He loved his wife very much, and also all his many children, of which he had quite a few.

b) It also correlates very well with his love of geology. On an external level the 4th house can correlate to real estate, and land in general, and Darwin loved (Venus) exploring land formations.

c) The 4th house is also about attaining inner emotional security. Darwin's mother died when he was 8, which at that age would have removed a major source of external emotional security. He also couldn't talk about it with his sisters as they were too traumatised by her death. So he was thrown back onto himself regarding it, to such an extent that as an adult he realised had lost almost all memory of her, including what she looked like.

I thought I'd ask now before we got any further into it, in case you felt there was any validity in the possibility and it was worth making the adjustment...

thank you & blessings,
Upasika

Hi Upasika,

Of course any birth time that is reported can be off a few minutes, or more. But this is the time reported for this birth chart. To not use that time would then become nothing but speculation. Relative to your reasons for considering that his Venus may be in the 4th just take those statements and now link them to his 2nd House Moon not to mention all the various S.Nodes of planets there, Chiron, and his Sun. His Moon also squares the 10th House Mars in Libra which of course rules the Venus in question which is also conjunct his natal Vesta IN THE FOURTH. All of these symbols, when combined, equal to me the various points you have made.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Mar 25, 2013, 09:18 AM
Hi Upasika, Kristin, Ari, Linda, Gonzalo, Gray, and Mirta ...

First I wish to commend all of you again for doing just incredible EA work, and for taking the time you each have to commit to developing this thread on JWG's Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation. All of you are also helping many others understand this method, others who simply come here to read this thread. So bravo to all of you.

We are now ready to continue on in developing the next step in our planetary method.

From JWG:

The next step after understanding the integrative principle of the Sun and the purpose and meaning it is giving to life experience in general, our very next step is then to move to the moon itself. Why? The current life moon, the natal moon, and the nodes are going to reflect a spiritual law, the trinity, from the earth point of view the phenomenon of past, present, and future. We have the north and south nodes of the moon and what this is correlating to psychologically is a universal experience we call the dynamic tension that exist in all people between the past and the future, as experienced in each moment of our life.  That's the natal moon in relationship to its nodal axis. We have an evolving ego, i.e. from south node to north node.  How that evolving ego is integrated on a consistent basis (moon) is the natal moon itself by house and sign.

Audience: Could you go over that again?

Jeffrey: We have a thing called the dynamic tension between the past and the future that we all experience, yes? That dynamic tension as experienced in each moment of our life  is contained in your natal moon. How we integrate the potential insecurity linked with our past and our future experienced in the moment is our natal moon.  It creates cohesion, self-consistency, understand? It's that place in you, the dynamic in you, that can say, "This is who I used to be, this is who I am trying to become." That voice is your natal moon; do you understand my point?

Audience: Can you give an example of that?

Jeffrey: All of you in this room know as your life experience that you are in a dynamic state of becoming, yes? You know you have a past; you know you have a feeling to go into--toward--your future, which is the experience of the moment, yes? The experience of these two things in the moment is your moon. How you experience that is your natal moon by its own house and sign.

Audience: Let's say the moon was conjunct one end or the other of the nodal path, for example, the north node, would there be more orientation toward the future than the past and really more conflict about trying to integrate the south node somehow with Pluto?

Jeffrey: Each case is unique and you have to always overlay this with karmic evolutionary requirements. The experience of it depends on the person, including the observed evolutionary state; one size does not fit all. If I had the moon on the south node and I am in consensus state, for example, how I am responding to that inwardly would be vastly different than if I had that moon /south node and I am in, say, an individuated state, or a spiritual state, you see. In all cases you are looking at the phenomenon of something being unresolved in a prior life, at an emotional level, that the person is bringing forward into the current life in order to re experience with the intention of resolving it.  

     If you have moon square the nodes, and really anytime you have a planet square the nodes, including the moon or Pluto, in evolutionary terms you have what are called skipped steps. And in the current context the person has been flip flopping back and forth, back and forth. And in evolutionary terms, karmic requirement, the person must recover those skipped steps in order to evolutionary proceed. Until that recovery is made they are blocked, you see my point now? Are we clear on the methodology as we are proceeding? That's my main intention at the moment, are we clear at the moment? Anybody still not clear? Good!

     Now, another way of looking at this is why we are going to be using the moon in this sequence. The moon is how each of us lives with ourself inwardly on a moment-to-moment basis. It is how we are giving personal form and definition to what we call our reality. It is way for us to make it personally secure. All human beings have a need to feel secure. Of course the issue is what constitutes security.  But the phenomenon of feeling secure is a constant for all human beings. It is like the need to put an anchor in the sea instead of just letting the boat drift where it wants to go. That is your ego. That is your anchor in the sea. That is the anchor into your unconscious. That is the anchor into your soul. Do you understand my point?  

     That is the way for you to personally relate to what your evolutionary intentions are relative to the purpose that is described by the Sun. It is a way for you to live with it, to feel emotionally secure because of it. The house and sign of your moon and the aspects it makes describe how that process is done. It is that simple. Yes?

Audience: I'm sorry, is that the security"¦"¦"¦(Inaudible)"¦"¦"¦"¦

Jeffrey: Yes, this is why we have a triad among Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces. See this is the ultimate meaning when we have the moon linked with Scorpio and Pisces.  We have this natural triad, and very few astrologers will tell you that the ultimate secret of Cancer and the moon is to realize that the moon itself is the source of its own insecurity. This is why it is a Cardinal archetype, two steps forward and one step back. We want to initiate change and we freak out and we want to recover"¦(Inaudible)"¦"¦  

     But the ultimate teaching of the moon is reflected in the dark side of the moon, the side we never see. And the reason that the moon creates its own insecurity is to ultimately realize (Pisces) security from within, linked with an inner reality that has nothing to do with the external environment. When you link this through Scorpio, this is why all of us at various points in our journey misapply our trust into people--in order to experience emotional betrayal, abandonment and loss to enforce inner security. This is why.

Audience: That wouldn't"¦(Inaudible)"¦"¦ It seems to be reinforcing what you developed in the past.
Jeffrey:  No you are not listening; you're not interpreting right. You don't understand reality unless you listen carefully and objectively to the words. What you have just heard is that the ultimate intention of the Cancer/Scorpio triad is to learn absolute state of inner security from within. Now you have heard it rightly.

*******

So what we want to focus on now, first of all, is the Moon's direct correlation to egocentric structure of the Soul for Darwin: past, present, and future. We have already developed the S.Node of the Moon with it's ruler Venus in Aries with the various aspects to it. This of course will correlate to the past lives egocentric structure that the Soul of Darwin created for his Soul that allowed for personal "I" to be formed relative to the evolutionary intentions for his Soul.

In the life of Darwin his Soul chose to have a Capricorn Moon in the 2nd House that is forming various aspects to other planets including his Mars in Libra in the 10th that is ruled by his Venus which is the ruler of his S.Node of the Moon. So we can see here the continuation of the egocentric structure of Darwin from those past lives leading the current life. Additionally, his Moon is conjunct the S.Nodes of Jupiter, Pluto, Saturn, Vesta, Venus, and Mercury. All of these are ruled by Saturn of course which is conjunct Neptune in Sagittarius in his 12th which trine that natal Venus in his 3rd.

So at this stage let's do an EA analysis of the egocentric structure that Darwin chose, and why. What type of egocentric structure is it ? How does this egocentric structure correlate to Darwin's underlying evolutionary intentions for the current life, and how the past life dynamics are continued into the current life of Darwin.

How is the dynamic tension of the past, future, and manifest in each moment experienced by the egocentric structure of Darwin ? How is the ultimate evolutionary need to learn inner security being worked upon by the Soul of Darwin in this egocentric structure ?

How does Darwin SEE HIMSELF FROM WITHIN ? Linked with his Sun how does the current life egocentric structure inwardly identify with his current life purpose ? How is that purpose creatively actualized in the context of Darwin's egocentric structure ?

What are the nature of his emotions and why .. i.e. the basis of his emotions ? How does he emotionally relate to himself and others ? The Moon, among other symbols, correlates to the type of parents and the environment that the Soul chooses to be born into for relative to it's evolutionary intentions. What type of environment did Darwin choose, and why ? What type of parents did he choose, and why ? How does this early life conditioning then affect the egocentric formation of Darwin ? How does this affect his own capacity to parent ? And what type of parent would he be ?

Within all of this we also need to consider his N.Node of the Moon for these directly correlates to the ever evolving egocentric structure wherein the very nature of that necessary evolution reflects to underlying, and ongoing, evolutionary intentions of the Soul itself. Thus we need to understand how the S.Node of the Moon interacts with the natal Moon, and how both of these interacts with the future evolutionary pull of the evolving ego as symbolized by his N.Node of the Moon in Scorpio. And for him he has natal Uranus conjuncts that N.Node. This means, as we know, that that N.Node has already, prior to the current life, been in the process of being developed by the Soul.

So let's try to put all this together in our EA analysis of the Moon in Darwin's chart.

This are some of the core dynamics that we will need to address in our next step.

If you have any questions please ask them of me now.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Mar 26, 2013, 12:56 AM
QuoteAll of these symbols, when combined, equal to me the various points you have made

Hi Rad,

Well it was just an idea I had been wondering about, as I thought perhaps Vesta in the 4th might not have been enough. But then I knew, and as you've pointed out, "treasure thine family!" would have been indelibly stamped on his Soul from that 2nd house time long ago ... plus the Moon-Mars-Venus connection you referred to adds a link to his love for his family. So thanks for clearing it up.

blessings Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Apr 01, 2013, 12:13 PM
Hi Rad and everyone - checking in, my intention is to post here the next step on the Moon by this weekend.
With much love, am
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Apr 05, 2013, 08:32 AM
Hi Mirta, Linda, Gonzalo, Kristin, Upasika, and Gray

Please let me know where you are all at concerning this next step in our analysis of this chart.

God Bless,Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Apr 05, 2013, 04:26 PM
Hi Rad,

This is a very busy time for me on various fronts, and I haven't had any time to look at it yet. Hoping to be able to post by at Friday latest, but aiming for mid week or sooner if I can. (But if it does take me all week I'll understand if you need to move on, and I'd catch up somehow).

blessings Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Gray on Apr 05, 2013, 06:29 PM
Hi Rad,

I am working on it and have a "thesis" so to speak put together, some writing and a basic outline- I know what I want to write about I just need to "fill in the blanks."  I had a brand new class that I teach begin this past week, so I have been busy with my teaching job. However, "the dust has settled" with that as they say, and so I believe I will be able to have something posted by the end of this weekend.

Thank you again for this opportunity of the "the planetary method,"
Gray
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: mirta on Apr 06, 2013, 08:51 AM
Hi Rad,
I am working but delayed, I believe to be able to post on tuesday.
Thanks so much
God Bless
Mirta
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Apr 06, 2013, 09:56 AM
Hi Gonzalo,

Quote from: Gonzalo on Apr 05, 2013, 11:17 PM

So, the questions that arise are, first, can the guilt exist as such, without connecting with desires to atone or to hurt, ie. without deriving in masochism or sadism? 

********

Yes and this can occur for many reasons / 'rationalizations' that then have the affect of either transmuting the guilt and/ or repressing it. In Darwin's case his guilt was in fact transmuted by way of his inner justifications which were linked with his work and the special destiny he inwardly felt from 'on high": his Lucifer in Virgo in the 9th. This is then restated relative to his Moon in Capricorn which is ruled by his Saturn conjunct Neptune in Sagittarius in the 12th.

**********

Second, does the atonement dynamic have any natural role in reducing the guilt, or alleviating the Virgo feelings of not deserving "¦ or is this only an illusion the Soul creates because of the felt need for punishment, because of how the experienced guilt is interpreted?

**********

If the guilt is rooted in man made laws versus Natural Laws the answer is yes. If rooted in Natural Laws the answer is no.

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Also, is it possible for Souls dealing with guilt to create the "˜same Soul' or "˜split Soul'  phenomenon, where one of the personalities and series of lives manifested by one of the "˜same Souls' carries the guilt and acts on the desires to atone, while the other "˜same Soul' continues to evolve with some other strategy to deal with the guilt?

******

Yes, this can happen.

**********


God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Rad on Apr 06, 2013, 11:22 AM
Hi Gonzalo,

Quote from: Gonzalo on Apr 06, 2013, 10:59 AM
Hi Rad

Thanks so much for answering these questions.

QuoteSo, the questions that arise are, first, can the guilt exist as such, without connecting with desires to atone or to hurt, ie. without deriving in masochism or sadism? 

********

Yes and this can occur for many reasons / 'rationalizations' that then have the affect of either transmuting the guilt and/ or repressing it. In Darwin's case his guilt was in fact transmuted by way of his inner justifications which were linked with his work and the special destiny he inwardly felt from 'on high": his Lucifer in Virgo in the 9th. This is then restated relative to his Moon in Capricorn which is ruled by his Saturn conjunct Neptune in Sagittarius in the 12th.

But what does 'transmutation' of the guilt mean ? Does it mean that, while the natural guilt will not dissapear,  it will be used as a prod or stimulus to do something which is benefficial for others, or fulfills a purpose given from 'on high'?

*********

Yes, because it is inwardly perceived / understood to be a much larger purpose that the source of the natural or learned guilt itself. Thus, rationalized.

*********



God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Apr 08, 2013, 03:08 AM
Hi Rad, checking in again - I'm just getting started on this now, i anticipate another couple days till I post.
With much love,
am
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Gray on Apr 08, 2013, 07:37 PM
Hi again Rad and all,

Just an update for my progress- I became ill over the weekend and did not end up doing any work on this. So I am probably a couple of days away from posting, unless I get a lot done today.
with gratitude,
Gray
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Gonzalo on Apr 09, 2013, 01:43 AM
Hi Rad, and group

I'm now posting my notes, somehow fragmentary, on the Moon archetype in Darwin's chart.
Thanks so much Rad for your guidance and  teaching of this amazing methodology
God Bless, Gonzalo

Moon Archetype

"We must die as egos and be born
again in the swarm, not separate
and self-hypnotized, but individual
and related."

-Henry Miller, Sexus

The Moon is in the 2nd House Capricorn, ruling Cancer in the 8th House cusp. The 4th House cusp is Aries, ruled by Mars in the 10th House Libra, which is Crescent square the Moon. These symbols reflect an emotional nature which comes into the current life fundamentally repressed, and an egocentric structure or personality which is not in contact with the inner emotional states existing within the Soul. These symbols reflect a prior defense to emotional pain, in which the Soul has chosen to build barriers in order to avoid the impact of intense emotions including pain, grief, guilt, anger and disillusionment, resentment, and futility "¦ The Moon in Capricorn and the 4th House ruler being in the 10th House reflect an inner state of MOURNING originating in the experiences of loss of family relationships and children, which we have discussed in this thread, defining how the individual inwardly feels and its overall tone of relatedness with self and others (Moon 2nd House, Mars Libra). The conscious self is permeated by feelings of guilt which is connected with the dynamics creating the past experiences of loss in parenting.

Coming into the current life, the Soul chose to be born through a biological family in which its own emotional needs would be unmet, and instead, would receive the impact of judgments including religious judgments, and a disciplinarian education, as a reflection of the inner state of repression. The mother would have been more or less emotionally and sexually repressed, controlled, and unavailable and not nurturing at a physical and emotional level for the child. She was already 43 or 44 when Charles was born. "She breed doves at their home, and she explained plants and flowers to Charles when he was young. But her health had never been good, and through the years of the marriage she became increasingly weak, and withdrawn from the young children" (Source: Darwin's mother and the miniature http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc7wSLIx5fs) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc7wSLIx5fs)).

Further, the child experienced the mother's death when he was eight. It seems the cause of the mother's death was related to "gastrointestinal symptoms that were probably a sign of either a severe ulcer or stomach cancer" (Wikipedia article con Susannah Darwin) - Moon square Mars, and Darwin would later manifest severe gastrointestinal symptoms too. At the time of the mother's death transiting Ceres was rx conjunct the natal Moon of Charles, and conjuncting the SNs of Saturn, Venus, etc.; the transiting SN of Ceres was conjunct natal Saturn, ruler of the Moon. Transiting Mars was conjunct the Moon's South Node. Darwin wrote in his Autobiography "My mother died in July 1817, when I was a little over eight years old, and it is odd that I can remember hardly anything about her except her death-bed, her black velvet gown, and her curiously constructed work-table". In his "Autobiographical fragments" written much earlier, he wrote "when my mother died I was 8 ½ years old and Catherine one year less, yet she remembers all particulars and events of each day whilst I scarcely recollect anything (and so with very many other cases) except being sent for, the memory of going into her room, my father meeting me-crying afterwards. I recollect my mother's gown and scarcely anything of her appearance, except one or two walks with her. I have no distinct remembrance of any conversation, and those only of a very trivial nature. I remember her saying "if she did ask me to do something", which I said she had, "it was solely for my good" [Quoted by Carolyne Dever in: Death and the Mother from Dickens to Freud: Victorian Fiction and the Anxiety of Origins]. This book proposes, as the title reveals, that the death of the mother was a motive for Darwin's search of 'origins', which of course is confirmed by the birthchart (the Moon is connected by rulership to Saturn/Neptune in the 12th House, the Moon's North Node is ruler by Pluto in Pisces).  
 
"She was often to suffer the blunt of her husband's frequent outbursts of rage, and she died under slightly mysterious circumstances when Charles was eight years old" (Sopurce: http://www.thedarwinpapers.com) (http://www.thedarwinpapers.com)) - Mars 10th House square the Moon. "In a scene eerily reminiscent of Darwin's grandmother's passing, his mother's last fortnight on earth was characterized by vomiting and severe gastro-intestinal pain while being tended to by her husband, Dr. Robert, as he administered VAST QUANTITIES OF THE OPIUM DERIVATIVE LAUDANUM to her." Moon ruled by Saturn conjunct Neptune in the 12th House. With the Mars square to the Moon, this looks like a possibility that the mother were killed by the father"¦ Susannah, the mother (born 23/Jan/1765 in Burlem, England), had Pluto/Venus Balsamic conjunct in Capricorn, square Mars in Aries, South Node in Virgo, North Node in Pisces, ruled by Neptune in Virgo, ruled by Mercury in Aquarius. This Mercury is conjunct the father's Mars in Aquarius (Robert Darwin, born 30/May/1766 in Lichfield, England), which conjuncts his own North Node in Aquarius, ruled by his Uranus in Aries. Robert Darwin had South Node in Leo, conjunct Jupiter, ruled by the Sun in Gemini, ruled by Mercury in Taurus square his nodes, and conjunct Susannah's Saturn in Taurus, the ruled of her Pluto/Venus. Composite Neptune/Mars are in opposition, and conjunct the Nodes in Virgo/Pisces). It is said that Robert Darwin didn't want to be a doctor, and that he studied medicine only to avoid losing his part on his family inheritance. Biographer's record that "within a day of Susannah's death the dutiful Dr. Robert was fifty miles away attending one of his patients, which seems rather odd for the grieving widower, since he actually detested the practice of medicine".

The Mars in the 10th House square to the Moon in Capricorn indicate anger or rage against the father. He said about his father, "he was a little unjust to me when I was young, but afterwards I am thankful to think that I became a prime favourite with him." (Wikipedia, article on Darwin's Health). Here we see the effect of repression in conditioning the orientation to patriarchal, external source of validation and social goals.

Cancer being in the 8th House cusp reflects the intensity of the inner states that have been repressed, and the overall intention to metamorphose the egocentric structure, which would need to occur through cyclic experiences of "˜death' and rebirth. The need for this intensity of experiences has been created by the fixity of past egocentric orientation (South Node 5th House Taurus), which has been a causal factor for repressing the emotional states in order to keep heading toward the ego defined goals despite experiencing emotional pain. Uranus conjunct the North Node in the 11th House reflects the need to create traumas in order to unlock these emotional states existing within the Soul. The loss of the mother was just one of these traumas in the current lifetime. With the natal Moon conjuncting the south nodes of Jupiter, Pluto, Saturn, Venus, Vesta, and Mercury, all in Capricorn, we can see that these types of trauma caused by the loss of family relationships, and the repressive response thereof, have been occurring in the Soul's history since much older times, and specifically the times of transition from matriarchal times to matriarchy. Also, we see the potential that the current life mother has been a mother to Charles Soul in prior lifetimes, or that they have been involved in family relations where these traumas have occurred in the past. If we have a look at the composite chart between Charles and his mother Susannah, it is amazing to me that they have a massive stellium of planets in Aquarius, and the Nodal Axis is in Cancer/Capricorn. The Aquarius stellium comprises Pluto, Moon, Sun, Venus, Chiron, Saturn, and Mercury. With this, it would seem to me like this composite chart, directly connects with the Pluto/Neptune/Uranus conjunction of 5036 BC (I'm overwhelmed by the synchonicity), and the traumas that the human species created during implementation of patriarchal family structures, ie. how man made laws and structures were violently imposed and replaced the biological memory of the species and the original matriarchal family structure that was aligned with the biological memory.  

Cancer being in the 8th House cusp, the South Node being in the 5th House Taurus, ruled by Venus in Aries, Mars in the 10th House being the ruler of both the 4th and the 5th Houses, and the Moon being in Capricorn in the 2nd House Capricorn, reflect the intensity of desires for the mother which is denied access by the law of the father, frustrating the capacity for joy, while the anger toward the father is repressed for the sake of maintaining and reproducing the social order created by the law of the father. The crescent square between the Moon and Mars demonstrates the internalization of the law of the father leading to being defined by a state of lack. Given that the South Node ruler Venus in Aries the 3rd House, is conjunct Vesta in Aries in the 4th House, and the Moon in the 2nd House is conjunct the SN Vesta, both in Capricorn, natural sexual desires for the communal mothers and sisters in pre-patriarchal times became desire for "˜this' woman who happens to be "˜my' mother or "˜my' sister within the patriarchal family. Because the communal "˜mother' (or sister), became a nuclear family "˜mother' (or sister), the word "mother" or "sister" originally referring to a series of women, became a word referring to specific, individual  females. Thus, sexual desire was placed in the disjunction of either desiring the mother against the law of the father, and falling under madness of perversity, or accepting the law of the father and repressing desires, and sexual desires, for the mother. Further, connective syntheses, "˜and, and' ie. this woman is my mother "˜and' I feel sexual desire for her, were replaced by  disjunctive syntheses, "˜either, or', ie. "˜either' this woman is my mother/sister, "˜or' this woman is someone I can desire and have sex with. Thus, A cannot be not-A (South Node ruler Venus in the 3rd House, Aries, ruled by Mars in the 10th House). Thus, by means of emotional castration, the ego became entrapped in the triangulation between mother and father: "who do you love most, mommy or daddy?" The phallus became the distributor of the lack, where women, and the mother, became defined by "˜not having' the phallus, and God became a man, masculine image, representing the "a priori principle of the disjunctive syllogism, so that all things derive from it by a restriction (or division) of a larger reality". This is the Judgment of God: Venus 3rd House Aries trine Neptune/Saturn in the 12th House (Deleuze/Guattari - AntiOedipus, Capitalism and Schizophrenia). Thus, no evolution here, but creationism, and same time, competition between species, and individuals, and concepts, in which one has to prevail: the survival of the fittest. The price paid is the denial of joy, the repression of emotion, sensation, feeling and sexuality, a malnourished Soul in debt with itself, forming a restricted self-image and anal-retentive personality structure which needs to block all that is alive and moves within.  

We have seen with the North Node being in the 11th House Scorpio conjunct Uranus and Chaos, ruled by Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd House, and the Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd House, that the Soul attempts to metamorphose and subvert the prior limitations of the ego structure by totally revolutionizing the existing organization of thought, sensation, emotion, and sexuality. Why, then, does the Soul needed to create the Capricorn Moon current life ego? What is the evolutionary intention? In few words, it would seem that, once the Soul has created a prison cell for itself, when embracing the desires to liberate itself it must proceed with extreme caution and prudence.

With Scorpio on the North Node, ruled by Pluto in Pisces, the intensity of the desires to metamorphose, and to disorganize prior subjective arrangements, contain the danger of totally destroying self. As Castaneda wrote, when the Soul desires lead to the realm of the Nagual, real change and evolution of the Soul demand that the Tonal be preserved. Commenting on Castaneda's Tales of Power Deleuze/Guattari explain this beautifully. "The tonal seems to cover many disparate things: It is the organism, and also all that is organized and organizing; but it is also signifiance, and all that is signifying or signified, all that is susceptible to interpretation, explanation, all that is memorizable in the form of something recalling something else; finally, it is the Self (Moi), the subject, the historical, social, or individual person, and the corresponding feelings. In short, the tonal is everything, including God, the judgment of God, since it "makes up the rules by which it apprehends the world. So, in a manner of speaking, it creates the world." Yet the tonal is only an island. For the nagual is also everything. And it is the same everything, but under such conditions that the body without organs has replaced the organism and experimentation has replaced all interpretation, for which it no longer has any use. Flows of intensity, their fluids, their fibers, their continuums and conjunctions of affects, the wind, fine segmentation, microperceptions, have replaced the world of the subject. Becomings, becomings-animal, becomings-molecular, have replaced history, individual or general. In fact, the tonal is not as disparate as it seems: it includes all of the strata and everything that can be ascribed to the strata, the organization of the organism, the interpretations and explanations of the signifiable, the movements of subjectification. The nagual, on the contrary, dismantles the strata. It is no longer an organism that functions but a BwO that is constructed. No longer are there acts to explain, dreams or phantasies to interpret, childhood memories to recall, words to make signify; instead, there are colors and sounds, becomings and intensities (and when you become-dog, don't ask if the dog you are playing with is a dream or a reality, if it is "your goddam mother" or something else entirely). There is no longer a Self [Moi] that feels, acts, and recalls; there is "a glowing fog, a dark yellow mist" that has affects and experiences movements, speeds. The important thing is not to dismantle the tonal by destroying it all of a sudden. You have to diminish it, shrink it, clean it, and that only at certain moments. You have to keep it in order to survive, to ward off the assault of the nagual. For a nagual that erupts, that destroys the tonal, a body without organs that shatters all the strata, turns immediately into a body of nothingness, pure self-destruction whose only outcome is death: "The tonal must be protected at any cost." (Deleuze/Guattari, 28 Novembre 1947 - HOW DO YOU MAKE YOURSELF A BODY WITHOUT ORGANS? In: A Thousand Plateaus, Capitalism and Schizophrenia).

"I am saturnine-bereft-disconsolate,
The Prince of Aquitaine whose tower has crumbled:
My lone star is dead-and my bespangled lute
Bears the Black sun of Melancholia
"
Gerard de Nerval's poem "The Wretched"
(quoted in Stanton Marlan: The Black Sun - The Alchemy and Art of Darkness

Same time, and at a deeper psychological level, it is only by means of this extreme caution that the Soul can become aware of what needs to change in itself, and effect the transformation. The Moon in Capricorn in the 2nd House ruling the 8th House Cancer, relative to the North Node in Scorpio in the 11th House implies a Soul commitment to emotional transformation translating into a restricted sense of experience in which self-awareness is limited or confined to that which needs to decay and ultimately die within the personality. Wolf taught that within Creation all phenomena are interconnected. He also taught that the individual Soul is a composite of a variety of dynamics, each of them operating at different evolutionary rates. The North Node in the 11th House, and the Sun being in Aquarius, imply the potential of a total disorganization and disassociation because of the Soul desires to discover the universe within, and to evolve beyond prior egocentric structure. The individual consciousness can lose self-identity because of being submerged in the individual and collective unconscious: North Node Scorpio, ruled by Pluto in Pisces. This can lead to a situation in which the multiplicities of the inner or outer universes are in fact experienced, but remain unintegrated, and in which individual choice-making is felt as irrelevant, because in the end all causes and their effects are already connected from the point of view of non-linear time, and thus, the individual has no responsibility in the outcome of the process. On the contrary, the Moon in Capricorn is painfully demanding personal involvement occurring in time present, in the process of personal transformation between past and future. Thus, the necessary intensity of depression in which the individual, when picking the Capricorn natal Moon, has chosen to be confronted with its own darkness, in order to allow a transformation in the nature of desires: an integration of the inner darkness, or alchemical "˜nigredo', and not only the brightness of knowledge, or the loss of personal consciousness because of going too fast. It is like having to pass through a rabbit hole, as Alice did, in order to access the inner universe. The hole (Moon conjunct Orpheus) is the contraction implied in having to fully experience the own limitations. "The cure for suffering-which is the collision of consciousness with unconsciousness-is not to be submerged in unconsciousness, but to be raised to consciousness and to suffer more. The evil of suffering is cured by more suffering, by higher suffering. Do not take opium, but put salt and vinegar in the soul's wound, for when you sleep and no longer feel the suffering, you are not. And, to be, that is imperative (Miguel de Unamuno, The Tragic Sense of Life)". The Moon being exactly conjunct Orpheus restates the necessary descent to the underworld for Soul-retrieval, and the need not to proceed too quickly when coming back to surface; further, that the integration process is not about seeing, but more about feeling and hearing. Asteroid Euridice is exactly conjunct the Moon ruler, Saturn/Neptune in the 12th House, and the Moon exactly conjuncts asteroid Beatrix. These symbols reflect the call to enter the underworld resulting from the experiences of loss, the mourinig. Same time, they reflect that the Soul is receiving inner feminine guidance in the initiatory descent to its own inner darkness, in order to integrate and heal the feminine nature of sensation and emotional body, a portal leading to the inner universe for discovery of higher knowledge (the grand trine between Moon, Dark Moon Lilith and Urania, etc.).
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Post by: Rad on Apr 09, 2013, 10:31 AM
Hi Gonzalo,

My god the depth and precision of your EA analysis as to why the Soul of Darwin chose the Capricorn Moon is simply incredible and brilliant: every part of your analysis that includes the relevant asteroids. Your uncovering of the causative dynamics of why his father and mother, which includes the original Vesta archetypes that led to a succession of the types of mothers his Soul chose to come through, is just exceptional EA work Gonzalo.

Your analysis reminded me of one of the Anton Chekhov plays in which a women is constantly wearing black. Someone finally asks her why she does this. And her answer reflects exactly what you have said about Darwin and his Capricorn Moon: "I am in mourning for my life".

Simply brilliant EA work Gonzalo. Your work reflects the very best of Evolutionary Astrology. This is how it is meant to be understood and applied.

God Bless, Rad

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Post by: mirta on Apr 09, 2013, 07:33 PM
HI Rad and Group
Unforeseen circumstances made imposible to me working in the Moon these days, I will post on Thursday. I don't expect  that you all wait for me.
Thanks,God Bless
Mirta
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Post by: Skywalker on Apr 10, 2013, 06:53 AM
Gonzalo, thank you for your amazing interpretation, I have been following this thread and also had this "oh my god" reaction when I saw your work.
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Post by: Kristin on Apr 10, 2013, 12:23 PM
Thank you Rad for your tireless dedication to our growth ~thank you also to all who are contributing here. I am in awe of what is offered by you all. What a gift!
Peace,
Kristin


MOON in Capricorn in the 2nd

Darwin came out of the womb in mourning. The root of his grief was linked with the trauma that his family, in particular his children, endured and the fact that he was the source of this trauma, South Node in Taurus squaring Chiron in Aquarius,  ruler Uranus is station and conjunct the North Node in Scorpio suggesting he has been trying to re-enter this pool of pain, to take responsibility for the trauma he caused others he dearly loved in an attempt to heal the past, Moon in Cap, ruler Saturn balsamic to Neptune in Sag in the 12th . Beyond the grief,  it was the guilt that chained his heart and his Soul. He would have spent past lives in monasteries or in isolation repenting. He would have also spent lifetimes hiding behind not only his work but in families in more formal cultures where emotions were not embraced or discussed in order to safely repress and avoid the memories. The sheer weight of the grief and the guilt as well the sense of responsibility he carried can be seen with the South Nodes of Pluto, Saturn, Jupiter, Venus and Vesta and Mercury all in Capricorn conjunct his Moon.


With a 2nd House Cap Moon he was learning not only lessons in personal survival and thus his ground breaking research and discovery of the survival of the species, this signatures also reflects a Soul who was needing to support his own survival, as he would have not been nurtured nearly enough in the way that a child needs, feeling emotionally alone much of the time and literally on his own without a mother by the age of 8. Not only did he lose his mother when he was young, she had him when she was in her 40's  and was not healthy for most of Darwin's life. With Aries on the 4th house cusp conjunct Vesta in Aries opposing Mars in Libra in combination, this would create an environment where he was forced to become independent right out of the gates, learning to emotionally take care of himself from as early as he can remember, he would soon realize this need to self provide in every way. Darwin did not have much of a childhood to speak of, he came out already a man, a man with deep penetrating anguish and grief, Moon in Cap, still grieving for not only the trauma of the past but where he had truly fallen short. One other reason he pulled in this emotionless mother beyond the fact that he himself wanted to avoid the sea of pain is that he felt that he did not deserve love because of the guilt that he carried from being a parent in the past, not being there for his children in times of critical need. He was too self absorbed and self focused in the past, per-occupied with his own work and personal pursuits unaware of the true needs of others around him, in particular his children, South Node in the 5th in Taurus, ruler, Venus in Aries, opposing Mars in the 10th. The guilt he carried forward is due to this lack of presence and the true narcissism that his needs and creative pursuits were more important than anything else, leading to the rug being pulled from underneath him, to shock his Soul so the pendulum would swing to establish more balance surrounding his responsibilities to his children. He has carried this energy of never being able to forgive himself for lifetimes for his lack of presence due to his self absorption. A metaphor for such a tragedy would be his family being asleep while he carelessly kept candles or an unattended fire burning while working late, he takes a walk, the house catches fire, the children parish and he survives. The bottom line was his pre-occupation with himself and his work. South Node in the 5th, ruler Venus in Aries in the 3rd opposing Mars in Libra in the 10th, squaring Moon in Cap in the 2nd. One minute he had everything and the next moment he lost it all. This trauma may have also extended beyond his own immediate family, involving extended family and others in his community or tribe seen in the Aquarian signature, Chiron in Aquarius square the Nodes, Uranus in Scorpio conjunct the North Noe in the 11th.


Darwin was forced to grow up young and fast with consistent, cold lessons in self reliance and rigid rules along the way reflected in the Moon in Cap in the 2nd.  He was raised in a wealthy proper family in traditional England whose father was a well known society doctor and financier, his mother was from the famous Wedgewood pottery family, South Node in Taurus and Moon in Cap in the second house. He undoubtedly was raised to keep his emotions in check and to hold back the tears when they bubbled deep beneath the surface, showing a sign of strength and control. As a result throughout his life these repressed emotions would have created an inner pressure and an added sense of loneliness with no one to share his deepest emotional currents with. This is similar also to his emotional body being a deserted island out in the middle of the sea with nothing but water beneath and surrounding him, Moon in Cap, ruler Saturn in Sag balsalmic to Neptune in the 12th house, held captive by the weight of their hold. There was vast emotion present yet it was kept separate, guarded and hidden from the world as for Darwin the sea was too dark and to scary to enter.  Darwin chose to be born into an environment where he would have the imprint an emotionless childhood, pulling in parents that were not only reserved and repressed emotionally themselves but also not at all emotionally available. This would mean he would not need to be forced to access his own inner emotional abyss of pain, anger and guilt. He could build a wall keeping himself separate from the past and all that these emotions reflect.

He was considered to be a solitary child who often took long walks alone exploring and often loved telling make-believes stories with immense fabrication to his family during gatherings, Moon in Cap in the 2nd, ruler Saturn in Sag in the 12th balsalmic to Neptune. He used story telling to keep his emotional and imaginary gates open, in order to allow whatever was humanly possible to filter in and to integrate what he was feeling but could not openly express. He would create make believe stories which would have involved characters that were fragments of him self. He was often asking the question why, why this and why not that for this questioning would lead to greater inner grounding, also this need for proof would serve to create greater inner balance when the answers came. Of course Darwin was always looking to the next horizon so emotionally was weighted down most of the time with the realm of possibilities of unanswered questions, those that also challenged his need for a supernatural creator,  that filled his heart and mind. The Moon in Cap in the 2nd would be forced to feel through and examine the more practical and realistic avenues for truth as the miracle maker that was written about in formal texts had let him down more than once. The end of this fantasy would serve to contribute to his grief and mourning. The Moon in Cap here represents in the past that Darwin in many lifetimes was brought back to earth, back to reality that God was not a man on a throne and the traumas of loss created a great anger at God for not saving his children or loved ones. Also a guilt not only at himself for feeling responsible in some way for what had occurred, ultimately he became progressively disillusioned in greater degrees with each lifetime, Moon in Cap, ruler Saturn in Sag balsalmic to Neptune in the 12th, all culminating in this life with the tragic loss of his favorite child. The anger at not only himself, but at God and at authority figures which would have included false teachers is also seen with the Moon in Cap squaring Mars in Libra in the 10th opposing Venus, ruler of the South Node. If he stays within his own closed box then he would not have to deal the pain of all that once was pure and true and yet would never be the same again, because of his actions and choices.

Darwin was surrounded by massive religious influence, the Church of England and Unitarian on his mother's side- the ruler of the Moon in Cap is Saturn in Sag balsalmic to Neptune in Sag in the 12th. However it was the ideas of his grandfathers that laid the foundation for his later career as they were free thinking rationalists and humanists who challenged conventional thought in philosophy, politics, religion and science. There were also very interested in invention and did not set any limits for themselves, for example at the time they imagined air travel which people thoughts was totally crazy and yet it ultimately occurred. You can see this also reflected in the Moon in Cap in the 2nd, ruler Saturn in Sag in the 12th trining Venus in Aries, the ruler of his South Node. Also with the ruler of his Sun in Aquarius being conjunct the North Node in Scorpio in the 11th, grandfathers who challenged consensus thinking. There may have been some spiritual breathing space as Unitarian is a form of religion,  but more progressive for the time as it celebrates a diversity of belief - A free and responsible search for truth and meaning.  However there was plenty of the "˜us versus them mentality', the religious dividing lines that breeds intolerance between people, projections and judgment of others of their beliefs. Darwin would have also felt these same projections and judgements within his family of origin, Moon in Cap square Mars in Libra in the 10th opposing Venus in Aries, ruler of his South Node in Taurus. Darwin's submergence into a family and societal setting such as this is due in part with that fact that we pick up where we left off and he was int he process of culminating lifetimes of old patriarchal relations and consensus religious influences within that. These connections culminating from the past can be seen with the ruler of the Moon in Cap being Saturn in Sag making a balsalmic conjunction to  Neptune in the 12th. His father and possibly his grandfather could have been higher ups in the various churches where Darwin may have been a monk or part of the clergy. Also it takes an extreme to counteract an extreme so in order for Darwin to experience his natural beliefs connect with his own inner rhythms it takes interfacing with all that you are naturally not. This extreme will force any Soul back into a better balance. His Moon in cap is squaring Mars in Libra, ruler is Venus in Aries which rules the South Node.  In the proceed this would allow him to culminate lifetimes of relationships with people who represented his running and hiding from his emotional body.

His father had high societal expectations of him , Mars in Libra in the 10th squaring his Cap Moon in the 2nd, wanted him to also become a doctor sending him to the prestigious Cambridge University but his father became annoyed with him went he slipped on his studies as Darwin eventually rebelled, Moon in Cap square Mars in Libra in the 10th, going against his father's wishes as his heart was in the study of natural history and the laws of nature. Darwin harbored great anger with the father and there were plenty of things that he wished to say but held his tongue as he felt the father's control, judgments and expectations that were crushing, Moon in Cap in the 2nd , squaring Mars in Libra in the 10th, opposing Venus in Aries in the 3rd, the ruler of the South Node. This extreme in what his father wanted for him and what he needed for himself would also serve to mirror the extreme of consensus expectation that he himself had also collected in his own Soul over time. He had fallen prey to the niceties that a fine existence offered in other times, and the recognition from society due to accomplishments from these ambitious pursuits that society revered as respectable. He would interface with this truth that these following what society or his father wanted for him never got him anywhere, that it only slowed him down. With  South Node in the 5th in Taurus and a Moon in Cap reflects him falling for the traditional temptations of being born a life of privileged but that there is a limit to anything and he would realize this luxury never filled him up, it only made him experience more emptiness. No matter how many accolades, accomplishments or fine bottles of wine he tasted, they would quickly be replaced with the feeling of wanting more, of what's next The Moon in Cap in the 2nd reflects him reaching the proverbial limit of the material world and his need now to bust past this place, North Node in Scorpio conjunct Uranus, to find MEANING in the truth of creation and in his connection to all those things he cannot touch or see. We know in this signature that there have been attempts in the past to liberate from the old patterns but he never quite got there, for the groove in the record was too deep.

In 1831, by the age of 22, his home, became a boat, when he had a once in a lifetime opportunity to travel the world, a grand sea-going adventure, Moon in Cap, ruler Saturn in Sag in the 12th balsalmic to Neptune. In 1835 he spent time in the Galapagos, and it was his findings while at home in the Galopogos that later led to his theory of natural selection. Moon in Cap, ruler Saturn in Sag in the 12th, an island in the middle of the sea. Also in researching the geodedics of this location, the Galopogos by location is 29 Cap, which conjuncts his Moon in Capricorn in the 2nd, ruler Saturn in Sag balsalmic to Neptune in the 12th in Sag. It was the findings in this location, a temporary home, that allowed him to later over time, Moon in Cap, put his research on the map. On a personal level, his Moon in Cap, ruler Saturn in Sag in the 12th would reflect this international traveling being a reflection of the ongoing running and hiding from his emotional prison of secrets.


Darwin had a two prong focus: His identity and sense of self was totally linked with his life's work - Discovery, documentation and dissemination of natural laws. This can be seen with a Moon in Cap, ruler Saturn balsalmic to Neptune, ruler of his Pluto in Pisces. The second prong was being a devoted family man however emotionally balancing the two main priorities was his Achilles Heel and had been for lifetimes, Moon IN Cap square Mars in Libra in the 10th, opposing Venus in Aries, ruler of the South Node.

With Pluto in Pisces, and the ruler Neptune baslamic to Saturn in the 12th, Saturn being the ruler of his Moon in Cap, he also chose this Moon to allow him to stay grounded versus having his wild imagination flying around in the clouds and never being brought into sensible form. The Moon in Cap in the 2nd,  ruler Saturn in Sag, gave him legs to bring his dreams down to earth and to carry his visions forward, and in this life, ultimately to carry many lifetimes of attempts to closure, The Moon's ruler Saturn is balsalmic to Neptune, ruler his his Pluto, in the 12th house.

Moon in Cap in the 2nd also connects to a Soul who has a natural need to reflect about all things, for Darwin, the ruler is Saturn in Sag in the 12th balsalmic to Neptune, he would need to reflect about the Origin of all things and how his progressive scientific uncovering would effect his emotional reality and his own personal fears regarding survival for his family. How would their lives be effected as a result? Would he see them again when they die?  This in turn would create a feeling of doom and gloom as the inevitable sat in the distance, for "˜grief waits for those who love'. Moon in Capricorn connects to his Soul embodying a seriousness and a depression that he couldn't shake, this Moon in Cap would also lead to a high pressure that would persist in him for all of his living days and one that rendered him chronically sick and immuno-compromised.


This Soul has been shouldering immense responsibility as his Moon is not only in Capricorn but it is conjunct the South Nodes of Pluto, Saturn and Jupiter in Capricorn, this adding to his Soul's need to take responsibility for what he has set in motion. Beyond the trauma he was responsible for creating, he would have experienced great trauma and a true lack of acceptance for his research and findings in the past as this Moon in Cap squares Mars in the 10th house, Mars being the ruler of his Venus in Aries, which is the ruler of the South Node in Taurus in the 5th, Chiron in Aquarius also square the Nodes. The trauma however cannot get in the way of his Soul's intended destiny for he knows from some other place within himself that he must carry this through. The emotional pressure for Darwin was immense and it fed most of his battles involving poor health, in particular his heart palpitations, South Node in the 5th, ruler Venus in Aries in the 3rd opposing Mars in the 10th in Libra which squares his second house Moon in Cap. Also with a stellium in Pisces it would create an immune system that was more naturally challenged by emotional stress and the outer environment. He carried the weight of the world on his heart and on his shoulders. It is the the emotional weight that can lead to the most challenging body and health woes. Darwin's physical health was a direct result of his emotional dis-ease. The dis-ease reflects all that he has emotionally carried that he cannot let himself off the hook for. The Moon in Cap in the 2nd, ruler Saturn in Sag in the 12th balsamic to Neptune is about the NEED TO FORGIVE HIMSELF. to remove himself from his own inner prison and to understand that the only way to healing is to take responsibility for what has occurred but for it not to paralyze him from moving on. To know that the natural God wants him to release the hold of the past and be free. It does not mean to be free of the guilt for GUILT IS NATURAL to CONSCIOUSNESS and necessary for Darwin to always have this within him for it will keep him from recreating the past dynamics that have caused him so much suffering. It is the learned guilt that accumulates that can literally suffocate a Soul preventing any evolution at all. This in combination with the emotioanl repression will cause volumes of distortion and rage. Ultimately this is when evil wins. With Darwin's Lucifer in Virgo squaring Saturn in the 12th,the ruler of his Moon in Cap in Sag, considering evil parks itself wherever we are most vulnerable, it is the self defeating, self sacrificing, masochistic thoughts that has become Darwin own belief system about himself, one where he deserves this pain and punishment forever until eternity for all he has done in this past, where he was careless and too self consumed. This will make its way deeply in to the physical corners of his body, in particular his heart, South Node in the 5th rooting itself there for all the negative emotions to feed upon. Even wallowing in his own grief was a form of self indulging in his pain from the loss of his favorite daughter. Following her death he was incapable of being the father his other children needed. He was unable to love and nurture them, causing trauma for them and re-igniting his own grief and guilt from the massive trauma that occurred in the past. This would also prove to feed the guilt as he would be unable to follow through on this parental priorities in a balanced way.


Family

Darwin married his cousin which can be seen with his South Node in Taurus, ruler Venus in Aries in the 3rd, inconjunct his North Node and Uranus. Venus, the South Node ruler also opposes Mars in Libra which square the Moon in Cap. Obviously this was not a traditional choice and the extended family signature can be seen with the North Node in 11th in Scorpio conjunct Uranus, not only because it was not the norm, but the Aquarian, Uranian archetype connects to extended family. Also with the ruler of the South Node, being Venus in Aries, opposing Mars in Libra and squaring the Moon in Cap, this can be sexual relations with someone like a sibling, someone within the family bloodline. Darwin chose this partner because her Soul knew all of his secret and was part of his part with respect to these traumas that brought hims such grief. She saw him for who he was and she loved him at his worst and so she was the safest bet. Moon in Cap, ruler Saturn balsalmic to Neptune in the 12th. Also the sign on the 7th is Gemini, ruler Mercury in Pisces in the 3rd which is balsalmic to Pluto in Pisces and squares the ruler Neptune as well as Saturn, the ruler of his Moon in Cap, reflects the partner who is like a sibling and who knows his secrets. She is also wanting to put this theme to rest and is committed to the culmination of this repeating theme of trauma as well as committed to helping him culminate his destined body of work.

"How paramount the future is to the present when one is surrounded by children."
Charles Darwin

The Darwin's had ten children, two died in infancy. The abundant family can be seen with the ruler of his Moon in Cap being Saturn in Sagittarius in the 12th balsalmic to Neptune, which also reflects the loss of children. Moon in Cap describes the true weight of the grief he has carried for loss of family not only in this lifetime but in others and for his own experience of disillusionment surrounding death, in particular children. Chiron in Aquarius squares his nodes and the ruler is conjunct the North Node, suggesting this not only occurred in this life but it has been a theme of heartbreak for him more than once. His need Moon in Cap in the 2nd to father that many children was his Soul's attempt to make up for the past, to nurture well and to take care of as many children as possible as this ambitious approach to parenting would become the true TEST, Moon in Cap, when his favorite child dies. Darwin has moon in Cap in the 2nd also as a TEST for all that came before, a test to be present at all costs but the trauma would test his ability to nurture the other children in unforeseen ways.

Darwin's favorite daughter, Annie, passed when she was only 10 . " "Anne was the apple of her proud father's eye, his favorite child, he confessed to" [his friend and cousin William Darwin] Fox. "More than any of the other children she treated him with a spontaneous affection that touched him deeply; she liked to smooth his hair and pat his clothes into shape, and was by nature self-absorbedly neat and tidy, cutting out delicate bits of paper to put away in her workbox, threading ribbons, and sewing small things for her dolls and make-believe worlds."[1] This spontaneous affection would have been the secret ingredient needed to bring his Cap walls down, it worked like magic, ruler of his Moon in Cap being Saturn in Sag balsalmic to Neptune in the 12th which trines Venus in Aries, the ruler of his South Node.

Annie's Mars was conjunct Darwin's Uranus and North Node in Scorpio, she being the trigger for the trauma but also for what would prove to be the shock his Soul needed to open up to the larger picture of life after death. To force his own Soul from its perceived limits, Moon in Cap in the 2nd,to see the whole of all things, including life, death and the hereafter. They undoubtedly had a Soul contract coming into this life, knowing it would take some sort of cataclysm, North Node in Scorpio, conjunct Uranus in Scorpio to accelerate his evolution and in order to bring his ground breaking work to the planet.? Also because as we pick up where we left off, if he was not able to finish his work in prior lives due to the trauma, he would be forced to experience this again with the intent to prevail no matter what. Annie could help him on the other side. She would be a continuous reminder of life after death and to teach and remind him that in the end nothing ever really dies, that we must lose our attachment to the physical, Moon in Cap square Mars in Libra, pushing beyond the limits of our own container. The Soul contract can be seen with their Composite Saturn in Sag making an exact trine to Venus in Aries conjunct North Node of Mars in Aries. Also Their Composite South Node of Uranus is conjunct this Saturn, natal Uranus is in Cap conjunct Neptune, suggesting the trauma in this life with respect to her loss had been a theme from the past.
Annie may have proven to be his greatest teacher in this unveiling of the other side offering a window into another dimension, one that is very much alive and connected to the here and now. Darwin's South Node is in Taurus in the 5th, ruler Venus in Aries and this trines his Saturn, ruler of his Moon, the Saturn being balsalmic to Neptune, the ruler of his Pluto in Pisces, and they are both in the 12th. The loss of Annie became the self fulfilling prophecy reflected in the negative thought patterns set in motions lifetimes ago, that he deserved the cruelest form of punishment for his parental neglect. This self fulfilling prophecy linked with his feelings that he deserved repeated trauma also due to the inner FEAR of this repeating, is seen with the Moon in Cap squaring Mars in Libra, opposing ruler Venus in Aries, ruler of the South Node. Also the ruler of his Moon in Cap, Saturn, squaring Lucifer in Virgo, that he deserved the ultimate punishment, the loss of his most cherished child.

 "We have lost the joy of the household, and the solace of our old age" Darwin
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Darwin felt responsible for her death in some way and carried tremendous guilt as a result.  In 1849, Anne caught scarlet fever  and her health declined; some authorities believe that she suffered from tuberculosis. In vain pursuit of help from Gully's water cure, which failed to save her, she died. This devastated Charles. The guilt and grief carried forward to his grave can be seen with the Moon in Cap in the second, ruler Saturn balsalmic to Neptune in Sag in the 12th, a signature for the rivers of tears for the family loss and in some way feeling responsible, pinning her exit on these emotions of guilt that he didn't do enough. Irrational emotions kept the wound wet and open for the remainder of his living days. With Uranus station on the North Node, Uranus being the ruler of Chiron which squares the Nodes but also the ruler of the Sun, in the second which is balsalmic to his Moon in Cap, he would be re-living the very same types of traumas which had caused his Soul to freeze, in order to evolve beyond them, this due to his Moon in Cap lessons in responsibility for all the relationships in his life in-particular his children.

Note:
In patriarchal myth, Lilith has been given some harsh names, one of which is her being labeled baby killer. Of course in her pure undistorted form she is powerful beyond measure, the embodiment of a self reliant, independent wild alluring woman. Her being given the name seductress and baby killer only came after she refused to submit to male patriarchal dominance. Her rage at these expectations warped with natural injustice ignited a vengeance in her in defense of her right to be free and to have equality, this led her down roads of distortion.  Darwin's Lilith is conjunct his South Node in his 5th while making a T square to Chiron in Aquarius in the 2nd as well as his Moon in Cap,  and squaring Dark Moon Lilith in the 8th on the other side, reflecting the darkest shadow of this symbol and the loss of his 'baibies'

With a mind and consciousness like Darwin's, he would feel alone a great deal of the time even when surrounded by people and he would feel as if no one truly understood his inner world. This was how Darwin preferred it to be for he did not want anyone to know who he was, there were too many deep dark secrets that he himself could not face or live with, so not only did he shut himself off from the world he emotionally shut himself off from himself. It would take his favorite child dying, and connecting with him from the astral realm in a place, that was far from the landscapes of his mind, perhaps only there would he truly feel met, touched and forgiven. Annie's Mars was not only in Scorpio on his North Node and Uranus in the 11th, astral plane, but her Pallas and her North Node were in Aquarius conjunct his Sun in Aquarius, she being the messenger from the astral realm. Her Sun and Uranus were also conjunct his Pluto in the 3rd house and these symbols trine his North Node and Uranus.


Jeffrey shared in his write-up on the plenary method that there is a dark side of the moon that people never see, reflecting the insecurity within. With respect to Darwin this dark side of his Moon in Cap is the grief that was strapped to his Soul, and the guilt for his role in the trauma created for his beloved children, this will haunt him for eternity.  

It also involves his imaginary world where he is visited by his daughter Annie from the other side, a world that is real beyond real to him, and yet others experienced him as hallucinating and spending far too much time in a world they can only understand as escape. It would be in this shadow, in this darkness, where only in death that a light would be found. He would recover more Soul security as he explored the dimensions that transcended space and time with the help of his invisible teacher and friend, Annie.


With the Moon symbolizing that which represents the evolving ego and how we integrate the insecurity of the past, you can see with a South Node in Taurus receiving the square from Chiron in Aquarius, that the trauma of the past caused him to freeze and fracture but with the Moon in Cap in the 2nd and the ruler Saturn trining Venus, the ruler of the South Node, he chose a Moon placement that would guarantee he would persevere, persist and press on. This weight of responsibility for what he was designed to bring forward would have also have been a true burden as it was so massive and timeless in nature. One man and one journey would change the world, Moon in Cap in the 2nd house, ruler Saturn balsalmic to Neptune, also Moon in Cap squaring Mars in Libra in the 10th opposing Venus. One man, one journey in fact was responsible for changing the world. That was an unfathomable burden to bear.

"A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of stone." (Darwin)

This sentiment would not be true however as for his Moon or ego to evolve, for his Soul to evolve, we not only look to the North Node in Scorpio, which reflects the deepest of depths, but we look to the Moon's polarity, and not only find Cancer in the 8th, it is conjunct the North Node of Saturn and North Node of Pluto. It would take him 'time' to emotionally soften and warm up to anything but eventually in order for him to evolve, it must happen. This evolving polarity also reflects the cataclysm that would force him into his emotional body, in particular the death of his daughter Annie, Cancer on the 8th house cusp, ruler Moon in Cap in the 2nd that would ignite the trauma of this past that he was responsible for connecting to the loss of many children.

With the Moon in Cap balsalmic to the Sun in Aquarius,  the Sun in Aquarius allowed him to detach just enough to finish his Soul's work for the world as this Sun is receiving a trine from Mars in Libra in the 10th, suggesting there will be enough energy and emotional focus in him to culminate this repeating circuit of paralyzing loss and to close this Soul chapter. Also Darwin's Moon in Cap is making a Last Quarter septile, 51 degrees, other wise known as a fate aspect, to his Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd which reflects the fate of the death of his daughter and his communications with her, her visits from the other side and his experience serving as a bridge from Earth to the timeless, unseen, invisible world with the intention to help heal his wounded heart. This re-immersion into the emotional waters after attempting to hold it all up or back for lifetimes would allow Darwin to evolve, as the river always finds the path of least resistance, via the natural water trinity, Moon - Pluto -Neptune, the river always finds its way back to the sea, back to God.

With Pluto in the 3rd in Pisces, ruler Neptune balsamic to Saturn in Sag in the 12th, Saturn being the ruler of his Moon in Cap in the 2nd, it has been said by historians that even with all the research that has been done on Darwin's life and story to date, and as much as we have have uncovered and will further uncover here,  Darwin, the man, is an ENIGMA, with guarded Moon in Capricorn and a North Node in Scorpio in the 11th, Pluto in Pisces, ruler Neptune conjunct Saturn in the 12th, I am sure that is how he would like it to remain.

Namaste,
Kristin

Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Apr 10, 2013, 01:17 PM
Hi Rad and community,
Thank you so much for this continued opportunity to learn and grow in this way Rad. I am learning so much in this step by step thread we are doing.

Moon in Capricorn in the 2nd.
Balsamic phase semi sextile with the Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd.

Other aspects to the Moon:
Moon last quarter sextile to Jupiter
Crescent square to Mars
Moon very end new phase semisquare to Neptune in sag in 12th.
Moon crescent phase semi square to Saturn in Sag in the 12th.
Conjunct the sn's of: Jupiter (in 1st house), Pluto, Saturn, Venus, Vesta, Mercury (all in 2nd).

We're looking at the egocentric structure that the soul has created in the life of Darwin that allowed for the soul to emotionally integrate the journey from the evolutionary past to the future on a moment to moment past. This then correlates to the way the ego formed, the early life emotional imprinting, and what the inner identity was throughout the life of Darwin.

Some quotes about Darwin's early life and mother :
Quote"Charles's mother died when he was only 8. In 1817 she started growing ill, with gastrointestinal symptoms that were probably a sign of either a severe ulcer or stomach cancer. She died on Thursday, July 15, 1817. Robert dedicated himself even more into his medical practice even more than he had before, leaving the household to be run mostly by his elder daughters Marianne and Caroline. Robert had always been an enormous presence in the house when he returned from work at the end of the day, but it had been tolerable as long as his mood was good. Now, however, he was almost always irritable and depressed. The house remained comfortable and well kept, but gloomy. In later descriptions of his childhood, Charles wrote that he remembered very little of his mother, particularly since his sisters forbade him to talk about her."
http://www.sparknotes.com/biography/darwin/section2.rhtml

And a similar quote:
Quote"Darwin remembers little about his mother who died when he was 8, but talks at length about his forceful physician father, who measured 6 foot 2 inches, and weighed over 336 pounds. His father's success guaranteed that Charles would never have to work for a living. Darwin was a naughty boy schooled in humaneness and manners by his loving sisters. Early on, he showed a passion for collecting, mostly beetles, but also coins, shells, and minerals. He hated boarding school; he enjoyed running in the open air and shooting snipes with his dogs. He quotes his father's characterization of him as a young boy: "You care for nothing but shooting, dogs, and rat-catching, and you will be a disgrace to yourself and all your family""
http://litmed.med.nyu.edu/Annotation?action=view&annid=12965

There's a strong history of family repression linked to this Moon. Venus as ruler of the SN, on the IC ruled by Mars in the 10th house which is in a crescent phase square with the Moon in Capricorn in the 10th house correlates to family social structures that emphasized being polite, agreeable, gentleman-like and keeping the "grief" inside (2nd house/Capricorn). Relative to the south node itself, Taurus in the 5th linking back to Venus and that Mars in the 10th, this soul has dealt with its grief by retreating and isolating himself and focusing on his own interests. However there is a great degree of repressed anger and guilt implied within these signatures, as well as stunted/immature emotional needs. A part of this anger and guilt is linked to prior lives where there had been death or violence in his family, but he had to "keep it inside" and be polite - Mars in 10th in Libra ruling the IC and Venus, squaring the Moon. Likely he judged others for their own "uncivilized" expression of emotions as these same signatures express a refined and very acute social awareness of cultural "rights and wrongs".

His Moon being on all those planetary south nodes in Capricorn symbolizes a soul structure that has identified for a long time the need to "fit in" in order to survive and has thus developed values that would allow him to make it in the world. The Moon however rules the 8th house which brings up the complexity in this soul. His mother died, and he immediately chose to be alone. His father went on working right away and he was forbade from mourning or processing his mother's death at all. Underneath all this are deep feelings of abandonment. However in order to process and integrate these unresolved emotions, he would require a great degree of stability. This is explored further below:

It's meaningful too to reflect upon how this soul chose to create a family, and how he related with his own wife. The following is all from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Darwin#Marriage
Quote
Charles and Emma raised their 10 children in a distinctly non-authoritarian manner, and several of them later achieved considerable success in their chosen careers: George, Francis and Horace became Fellows of the Royal Society.[7]
Emma Darwin is especially remembered for her patience and fortitude in dealing with her husband's long-term illness. She also nursed her children through frequent illnesses, and endured the deaths of three of them:Anne, Mary, and Charles Waring. By the mid-1850s she was known throughout the parish for helping in the way a parson's wife might be expected to, giving out bread tokens to the hungry and "small pensions for the old, dainties for the ailing, and medical comforts and simple medicine" based on Dr. Robert Darwin's old prescription book.
Emma often played the piano for Charles, and in Charles' 1871 The Descent of Man and Selection in Relation to Sex, Darwin spent several pages on the evolution of musical ability by means of sexual selection.

And a letter she wrote to him at the beginning of their relationship: "When I am with you I think all melancholy thoughts keep out of my head but since you are gone some sad ones have forced themselves in, of fear that our opinions on the most important subject should differ widely. My reason tells me that honest & conscientious doubts cannot be a sin, but I feel it would be a painful void between us. I thank you from my heart for your openness with me & I should dread the feeling that you were concealing your opinions from the fear of giving me pain. It is perhaps foolish of me to say this much but my own dear Charley we now do belong to each other & I cannot help being open with you. Will you do me a favour? yes I am sure you will, it is to read our Saviour's farewell discourse to his disciples which begins at the end of the 13th Chap of John. It is so full of love to them & devotion & every beautiful feeling. It is the part of the New Testament I love best. This is a whim of mine it would give me great pleasure, though I can hardly tell why I don't wish you to give me your opinion about it."[9]

Emma Darwin was also a Unitarian. It seems that she may have been moving into the spiritual stages of evolution. Her personality seemed to be a good anchor for him - as Darwin was truly reflecting on some deep personal dynamics about the value and meaning of his own life. The way he internalized and made emotionally relevant his life's purpose (Moon Sun relationship) was through coming to terms with the total infinitude of reality; that there is very little in his control and very little to make meaning out of - Moon balsamic to the Sun.

The context of his wife and the home he created with her, with 10 children, 3 of whom died - reflects the kind of ego structure of this soul. Given the archetype of Capricorn, this soul simply was not about being insecure in the unknown. So to create a solid family structure with a woman that represented more timeless and universal values was likely somewhat nurturing for the soul of Darwin. Darwin needed concrete answers in order to protect the Capricornian/2nd house resistance to access and process the storehouse of repressed emotions.

Darwin had several health issues, many of which were related to digestion. This correlates to the irritated and repressed inner emotional reality for this soul and the traumas he had endured.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin's_health
QuoteFor over forty years Darwin suffered intermittently from various combinations of symptoms such as: malaise,vertigo, dizziness, muscle spasms and tremors, vomiting, cramps and colics, bloating and nocturnal intestinal gas, headaches, alterations of vision, severe tiredness, nervous exhaustion, dyspnea, skin problems such asblisters all over the scalp and eczema, crying, anxiety, sensation of impending death and loss of consciousness, fainting, tachycardia, insomnia, tinnitus, and depression.

Darwin had no success with conventional treatments. In 1849, after about four months of incessant vomiting he took up the recommendation of his friend Captain Sulivan and cousin Fox to try the water therapy regimen at Dr James Gully's Water Cure Establishment at Malvern. He read Gully's book, which provided case histories and had a price list at the back. Darwin rented a villa at Malvern for his family and started a two-month trial of the treatment on 10 March. Gully agreed with Darwin's self-diagnosis of nervous dyspepsia and set him a routine including being heated by a spirit lamp until dripping with perspiration, then vigorous rubbing with cold wet towels and cold foot baths, a strict diet, and walks. Darwin enjoyed the attention and the demanding regime which left him no time to feel guilty about not working. His health improved rapidly, and he felt that the water cure was "no quackery".[4][5] He had no faith in the homeopathic medicines Gully gave him three times a day but took them obediently.[6] They stayed on until 30 June, and back home at Down House, he continued with the diet and with the water treatment aided by his butler. He followed the rules about rising early and rationing his working time and had the Sandwalk constructed in the grounds for his walking exercise, setting a routine which he continued.[7]

What's meaningful to note about this is just how fully he was able to discipline himself to a regiment. And this is how he took care of himself. Similar to his upbringing, his mother focused entirely on the household and his father fully committed to his doctor practice. Even when his mother died, his father became even MORE focused on his practice - even though he did not enjoy it very much. Work and discipline has been a way for this soul to emotionally relate to his own life - it's how he created a sense of safety and security. This created a foundation that allowed him to then project his life force outwards into his work in science. Moon relative to the north node.

This soul also identified very much according to his public persona - and it's clear that one of the reasons why he chose this Capricorn Moon has been to create a self image that would allow him to create a focus and discipline that would allow him to actualize further his evolutionary purpose: Moon as a way of emotionally integrating from the past to the future.

However, I feel he's reaching a point in his evolution where he can no longer hold back the basic needs of his body and emotion for the sake of "survival" alone. Thus its likely that after the life of Darwin the evolutionary impulse for this soul would progressively be to unlock the emotional body, and in so doing he would begin to reformulate a lot of his previously concluded ideas.

The Moon is in a crescent phase semi square with Saturn - this further emphasizes the strong Taurus/2nd house identity theme for this soul - and how it constantly links back up with the Capricorn/Saturn/10th house archetype. He needed security and needed to establish a foundation for his personal life that would allow for his social participation and actualization. His routines and health needs kept him even more remote and removed from social interaction - and also kept him close to his wife who took care of him to the very end.

This soul established a very large family - this too reflecting the soul need to survive, to procreate and live on. I also imagine just being around so many children was also very nurturing for this soul. The ruler of his Moon, Saturn is in Sag in the 12th balsamic to Neptune - forming a crescent phase square with the Moon, his family life was also likely very private and a place for inner reflection. Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd ruling that Saturn, squaring that Saturn and sharing a last quarter sextile with the Moon: this links his home environment as a place where he was able to study and do research while being held in a safe and private container.

The reality of this configuration points to the intention for this soul to create a structural reality for himself that would allow him to understand and explain the structure of natural principals that relate to all species, all beings everywhere, (Saturn Neptune in Sag in the 12th) - and doing this through the accumulation of a great amount of universal data and facts (Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd). Having the very stable Moon in Cap in the 2nd within all this allowed him to keep a constant; to be stable in the known of his body, his family, his home etc.

With much love,
Ari Moshe
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Linda on Apr 11, 2013, 04:26 AM
Hi Rad,
I'll just need one more day to
complete this assignment.
Thank you,
Linda
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Apr 11, 2013, 08:20 AM
Hi Rad,

I've not had time up till now to hardly do anything at all, but finally can see some light - but realistically it's still going to be a couple of days till I can post. Hope that's OK, not too late, but understand if it is. Sorry to always be last and holding things up, I'm expecting my situation will allow me more time the more we progress.

blessings Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Apr 11, 2013, 09:28 AM
Hi Mirta, Linda, Upasika, and Gray,

We can wait until you can post. To me it is so valuable what each of you is contributing to this incredible thread that is demonstrating to all that read it the incredible power of EA in general, and the Planetary method specifically. All of you have your own unique way of understanding the EA of Darwin's chart being analyzed in this way and, in combination, the reality that all of you combined creates is simply as brilliant as it is creating a total picture/ understanding of Darwin. As you know he was called an 'enigma' by many. All of your efforts in penetrating that enigma.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Gray on Apr 11, 2013, 08:07 PM
Hello Rad and group,

In this Planetary Method we are working on, Darwin's 2nd House Capricorn Moon reflects how he integrated his evolving ego on a moment-to-moment basis, giving personal form and definition to his sense of reality.  It is also reflects how he made himself personally secure, integrating the potential insecurity of the evolution from his 5th House South Node of the Moon in Taurus to his 11th House North Node of the Moon in Scorpio conjunct Uranus.  Part of this potential insecurity that could stem from his lunar nodes stem from desire to merge on a deep level (Scorpio) with others, including groups of like-minded souls (11th House) while in a process of individuation (Uranus), especially given that he is in the third individuated stage this lifetime; and in Scorpio conjunct Uranus, that this individuation process could have an intensity of total destruction of past patterns in its transformative process.  Uranus conjunct his North Node in Scorpio also indicates that there could be shocks and trauma in his life experiences associated with this process, such as the fact Darwin's mother died when he was eight years old and he also lost his own children to death,  giving an even more urgent need of integration on a emotional level to feel more personally secure.  Having his Moon in the 2nd House makes it a deep anchor of a strong internal value system, tied into social dynamics and conditioning being in Capricorn.  As a result there could be repression at times, as his urge to radically individuate and liberate beyond constraints of culture and consensus conditioning could make him cling to those very societal conditions as a means of feeling more secure in the moment, or rationalizing his behavior, at times feeling guilty for radical behavior in an effort to come back to a comfort zone of conditioned safety.  This can be seen in the fact that Darwin pursued his more radical intellectual theorizing for a long time in the background to the "safer" and popular writing on geology and the research collections he developed on his sea journeys.  When he first began to mention that he was developing more radical theories to a botanist colleague in 1844, he wrote "it is like confessing to a murder."

Part of the whole of the evolutionary intention of Charles Darwin can be seen reflected by his Capricorn Moon in his 2nd House, an ego identity which has been thoroughly conditioned by societal influences in past incarnations. This soul's incarnation as Charles Darwin exemplifies this social conditioning dynamic, being born into a wealthy English family at the time of the English empire and colonization of the world, an English society with heavy societal conditioning seen in a sharply divided class structure, where just the way you talk or act could instantly have you categorized into a hierarchical class structure by another English citizen.  Darwin had an Aquarius Sun soul purpose this lifetime of rebelling from and transmuting beyond the constraints of his past societal conditioning, and so his Capricorn Moon reflects an ego identity that holds this conditioning deep within his core (2nd House).  For example, at times on his research journey funded by the English empire, Darwin came across human beings who had been enslaved by the English empire: there are historical records of Darwin perceiving the wisdom of these people that transcended their enslaved status, and that he was clearly bothered by the concept of slavery. However, at the same time, the repressed aspect of his conditioned Capricorn Moon could have been a factor in the fact that he did not become a radical reformer focused upon ending slavery- yet, also at the same time, his choice to focus his energy on his intellectual pursuits also did have an impact on shifting the attitudes behind slavery, as he proved the common ancestry of all human beings on our planet.   The conditioning of Darwin is so deeply rooted he can in fact magnetically attract external influences and interactions, and can enter into relationships which trigger deep karmic patterns tied to this past conditioning.  This is also reflected in his Capricorn Moon being conjunct the south nodes of Jupiter, Pluto, Vesta, Saturn, Venus, and Mercury, all of which are ruled by a Saturn in his 12th House conjunct Neptune in Sagitarius.  This is a deeply karmic ego identity that feels the heavy weight of past incarnations with every emotional impulse in his daily life. With regards to integrating the north node of the Moon in Scorpio that is ruled by Pisces Pluto in the third house, along with his south node of special destiny in the fifth house- the development of his dear evolutionary theories- the conditioned nature of his Capricorn Moon that is conjunct such a powerful of south nodes of planets in his second house has a strong influence of survivor issues, and so this ego identity I think helped sway him in a direction of being so fixed for so long on the aspect of natural selection involving "survival of the fittest" more so than a link between collectivity and evolution.  In any house of the birth chart, there would be a lot of repression with his Moon being in Capricorn and conjunct such a large stellium of south nodes of planets, but having all of this in the second house reveals that this karmic residue of past conditioning has become a dense crystallized form or pattern his ego identity would be forming values through and living life from, in part as a way to deal with his intense survival issues from past incarnations.  Being ruled by a Saturn that is conjunct Neptune in Sagitarius in the 12th house has a karmic release energy that is mirrored by his Capricorn Moon being in a balsamic phase with his Aquarius Sun, an Aquarius Sun that has the ultimate soul purpose to shatter the crystallized karmic patterns of his past.  This can be seen in part through the strong calling that pulled Darwin on his life's journey to disregard the medical and other studies his father was pressuring him to pursue, to instead embark on an epic sea journey to conduct research that he was motivated to pursue for himself, that he felt was connected with his own personal meaning, not his father's. And yet he got through this process by first returning to and releasing karma of past incarnations, such as briefly studying to be a clergyman (being a priest of some sort in a past life would be symbolized by Sagitarius Saturn conjunct Neptune in the 12th house), but then ultimately coming to a place of seeing all religions as being valid, and becoming critical of dogmatic use of the Bible. This ultimate push for liberation was greater than the ties his Capricorn Moon would have toward societal conditioning, and by following his liberating path Darwin could use the anchor of his 2nd House Capricorn Moon to help influence powerful supports in society, such as his father, to ultimately help him follow his own path.  

Thus, another part of the evolutionary intention of Darwin's Capricorn Moon is to provide himself with the structure(Capricorn) necessary for him to fulfill his past incarnational sense of a special destiny (South Node of the Moon in 5th House), a destiny that involves a sense of expressing an intellectual system of ultimate understanding that goes against the dominant intellectual viewpoint of his time (seen in his Mercury balsamic conjunction to Pluto in Pisces in his 3rd House that is square to Saturn and Neptune conjunct in Capricorn).  The Capricorn Moon in this sense still carries its heavy weight of societal conditioning into this incarnation, but as a result Darwin can use this ego identity to navigate the dominant hierarchical power structures of his culture in order to communicate his intellectual understanding of the world, and more importantly be able to influence key figures to accept his intellectual position and help him establish his intellectual understanding at the top of the hierarchical power structure. So, although his Capricorn Moon may carry karmic patterns of behavior he is met to "throw off" with his Aquarian Sun soul purpose, at the same time, the deep rooted (second house) understanding his Capricorn Moon possesses of how society operates, what sorts of unspoken norms of expectant behavior are operating, will help him achieve the worldly external success he desires (symbolized in part by his Libra Mars being in his 10th House).  Having his Capricorn Moon in his second house means that he has a strong sense of internal resources he can drawn on in order to pursue the hero's journey of his soul purpose (South Node of his Moon is in Taurus in the 5th House) and resolve his karmic issues of not being able to successfully complete this sense of a hero's journey in past incarnations.  In addition, the Capricorn Moon of Darwin was an aid in his ability to create a network of research resources to investigate his theories to an astounding degree.

The aspects to Darwin's Capricorn Moon reflect each of these two evolutionary intentions:  (1) to have his ego identity and emotional sense deeply tied to past influences of societal conditioning he is meant to liberate himself from in this incarnation, and (2) to have an ego identity that deeply understands how societal dynamics play out in hierarchical power structures so that he will be able to communicate his intellectual understanding this lifetime into the highest levels of the dominant cultural channels of his birthplace.  His hardworking Capricorn Moon put to this task would help him gain a sense of personal security for himself amidst his  cataclysmic, intense, and liberating individuating destiny symbolized by his Scorpio Uranus conjunct his North Node of the Moon in the 11th House.

MOON - SUN

The most obvious aspect is perhaps his Capricorn Moon being in a balsamic phase with his Sun, in a balsamic semi-sextile to his Aquarius Sun in 2nd.  There is a new evolutionary cycle of concepts and ideas for him to develop that transcend the limitations of the space and time of the culture he incarnated into, but as part of this process he has his own personal karma of past incarnations he must clear in this incarnation.  He could feel misunderstood as his revolutionary ideas could make others find him freakish, and so he has the 2nd house intention to stay rooted in his more timeless vision.  And yet in order to feel more secure, his Capricorn Moon could at times make him feel like he needs to "fit in," such as how it is reported that he supposedly rationalized a need to get married in a more logical method than a passionate one of desire.  The balsamic nature of the phase between his Moon and Sun, plus being ruled by a Sagitarius Saturn that is conjunct Neptune in his 12th House, would lead him into phases of meaninglessness, diffuseness, and depression at times, feeling a lack of a personal identity despite the strong signature of his birth chart calling on him to develop one.  In the second Pluto book, JWG wrote about this phase:  "the key is to let go of the past and to allow new patterns, ideas and impulses to enter the consciousness of their own accord.  Approached in this way, these new thoughts, ideas, and impulses become the light that illuminates the path to the individual's future" (p. 223).  Ultimately Darwin achieved this through the work of his intellectual identity.

MOON - MARS

In addition, Darwin's Capricorn Moon is in a crescent square to Libra Mars in his 10th House, and among other things, this aspect carries the  fear that he could slide back into the societal conditioning of a Capricorn Moon. I feel this can be seen because it does not appear to me that Darwin was someone who charged impulsively forward toward his destiny without deliberation. Instead he was very careful, moving in close measured steps.  Who knows how long it would have taken him to publish his ideas without receiving a letter from a contemporary showing him that he had to take action if he wanted credit, as others were beginning to work on the same ideas he had been developing, and yet he did push through with it, reflecting how his Moon-Mars aspect is on the cusp of a first quarter square phase.  The push/pull dynamic of this aspect can be reflected in Darwin's life, how at times he did withdraw into seclusion and isolation, at times necessary because of falling ill so often, but then also returning to an assertion of his ideas and intellectual pursuits through social interactions and communicating his research findings.  Indeed, when in isolation from the world of England on his first great sea journey, he was still sending specimens back to England and as a result made a name for himself and gained great notoriety in scientific circles.  Upon returning to England he was able to solidify a name for himself in the scientific community and expand an audience for his work.  Also, as I previously wrote about in my post about his Aquarius Sun trine to his Libra Mars, his 10th House Libra Mars in this aspect could reflect a number of relationships he would enter into that would on the one hand pull him back into influences of the societal conditioning of his past incarnations, such as his wife having different perspectives on subjects Darwin had a more radical approach to, but at the same time these relationships would again help trigger the process of him ultimately liberating himself from this past conditioning.

MOON - NEPTUNE conjunct SATURN

Darwin's Capricorn Moon is also semi-square to Sagitarius Neptune, which is conjunct the ruler of his Capricorn Moon, Saturn in Sagitarius, in the 12th House.  Neptune being conjunct Saturn here would add a theme of unity to the structure of Darwin's consciousness and the interplay with the ego identity of his Capricorn Moon.  The aspect between Neptune and his Moon is minutes away from the exact  evolutionary gate between the new and crescent phases.  The pull of the crescent phase on this aspect, would mean Neptune conjunct Saturn in the 12th house has a deep karmic effect that would lead Darwin to internalizing and processing his emotional security issues on a deep level, causing him to have a melancholy personality at times but ultimately helping him to find a light in the darkness, release the karma of his past incarnations through heavy internalization of experiences, ultimately finding greater union.  Yet since this aspect is still barely within the new phase, literally at the very end of it, it would also carry an energy of helping to propel him into new experiences that would help him fulfill his intellectual destiny, a sense of living from the impulse of a new vision for himself.  In combination this aspect would help Darwin create structures for himself that would be effective at integrating his new discoveries, helping him process his research and ultimately gain the ability to communicate his findings back out into the world at large.  This can be seen in the extensive research structures he was able to cultivate for himself in England and elsewhere, giving him the ability to do methodical research over a number of years in a wide variety of circumstances in order to substantially support his scientific theories- theories which were working toward understanding the greater unity of evolution in the large scope of things, very Neptunian in that way.

MOON - JUPITER conjunct JUNO

A very expansive and beneficial aspect to Darwin's Capricorn Moon is the last quarter sextile aspect to his Pisces Jupiter in his 3rd house.  Pisces Jupiter here in the third house reveals the large scope of his belief system that he focused on understanding the connection of everything through extensive research into myriad directions, in a very third house manner.  This aspect is even more significant because his Pisces Jupiter is the ruler of his Sagitarius Saturn in 12th, that rules his Capricorn Moon.  This Pisces Jupiter is a great aid in helping him to fuse and synthesize all of the tremendous 3rd house mental exploration he conducted in his lifetime, and with this aspect to his Capricorn Moon it gives his ego a creative and visionary identity that is able to develop a strong purpose for itself within the larger cosmic whole, be productive and gain understanding into the ultimate meaning of his reality- explore the Piscean connection of everything.  This aspect also symbolizes the help Darwin was able to receive, as well as initiate himself, to fulfill the special role he cultivated for himself in this incarnation.  This can be seen in his relationship with key figures, such as having a father who ultimately chose to financially support him and enlist the financial support of others toward Darwin's visionary scientific initiatives.  It also reflects the significant relationships Darwin was able to form with significant and influential teachers and intellectual colleagues, who later were able to help garner attention and acclaim for his work.  The importance of generous and beneficial relationships like this can also be seen in the fact that Juno in Pisces is conjunct Darwin's Pisces Jupiter.  In one way, this can be seen in the importance Darwin placed on becoming married and sustaining his marriage, and drawing emotional support for his Capricorn Moon from his marriage.  Since Juno can also relate to jealousy at times, it can also reflect the fact that in intellectual circles it was important for Darwin to form close relationship with like-minded scientists and intellectuals, but that there was also a jealous competitive streak in him relative to these other individuals- this is in part from his Capricorn Moon integrating the "special destiny" obsession complex of his past incarnations from the South Node of the Moon being in Taurus in the 5th House- there was a side to Darwin who wanted to be the best, the most famous, known as the person who developed the visionary evolutionary theory.  The Jupiter-Juno harmonious aspect with his Capricorn Moon shows how he was able to overcome many obstacles, one of the most significant being the fact that he had so many medical issues and intense trauma with members of his family, but he was able to push through everything and ultimately succeed.

MOON - URANUS

Finally, Darwin's powerful Scorpio Uranus also impacts his Capricorn Moon through forming a crescent quintile aspect.  This reflects the strong individuating purpose that can be seen in the life of Darwin, that he had a strong evolutionary drive on a soul level to individuate and liberate himself from societal conditioning. Yet as we have discussed, and can also be seen in this aspect by it being within the crescent phase, there was also a pull on his Capricorn Moon back into the repression of his socially conditioned past incarnations at the same time.  The fact Scorpio Uranus is in this aspect to his Capricorn Moon shows the specific genius Darwin possessed that was able to attune to brilliant insights in the scientific world and challenge some of the most established theories in the field of science.  In Scorpio, these insights were incredibly deep and penetrating into the ultimate understanding of reality, and transcended the confines of consensus thought of the time period.

with gratitude and love,
Gray



Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Linda on Apr 12, 2013, 04:39 AM
MOON


Introduction:  The Soul creates the current life Moon as a means to evolve itself and its ego consciousness by way of the emotions pertaining to the water trinity (Pisces = Spirit, Scorpio = Soul, Cancer = Ego).  The ultimate intention of this triad is to create an absolute state of inner security from within by healing the Feminine/Emotional Body.  The Moon is employed to process the Soul's deepest urges through various emotional states that have the effect of exhausting the Soul's separating desires.  The dynamic tension between the insecurity linked with moving away from the past and evolving into the future is consistently experienced and integrated on a moment-to-moment basis by the Moon creating cohesion and self-consistency.  The Moon describes the sense of self, the emotional body, ego, self-image, conditioning patterns, early home-life, relationship with parents, and identity (name, nationality, personal story).  With the Moon in Capricorn in the 2nd house, integration of the ego as it evolves from the past to the future is carried out through looking into inner value systems, expressing talents and abilities, finding inner worth, and sharing inner resources attuned to personal, family and collective needs.  Evolution of the Moon's emotions targets a repressive emotional make-up, the psychology of futility, the trauma of being judged and scapegoated, and the burden of guilt.  

Lunar Nodes:  The Capricorn Moon facilitates moving away from the past and evolving into the future via easy or difficult aspects to the SN, its ruler Venus, the NN, and its ruler Pluto.  Lying beneath the Moon's conscious awareness, in the unconscious, the principle Soul desire was to attract information in order to understand more of the Whole Truth of Natural Laws (Pluto Pisces 3rd).  This Soul desire was implemented by the self-image or personality that was carried forward into the current life (SN Taurus 5th) describing a compulsive self-expression, an intense conscious focus, taking charge of life, applying persistent will, power, creativity and personal energy while being rooted to a special purpose.  The Soul drew upon lifetimes spent in study, inner contemplation and ponderings on the very nature of existence and creation facilitating the sharp intellectual focus of the Soul (Pluto).  The ideologies of the Soul were deeply held, fixed, obsessive and rigid.  Through the NN Scorpio 11th the evolving ego was able to link the special purpose to a social function that was needed by the collective.  

Moon in Capricorn: Suppression of natural emotions resulting in grief and depression would have the effect of inducing a natural reflection on all that he had created in his life, thus redefining his value systems.  Setting unrealistic standards of perfection, constantly being driven towards work commitments, and restricting personal needs resulted in man-made guilt patterns.  With the Moon in Capricorn, Darwin battled the fear of water literally (voyages across the sea) and symbolically (depth of emotions, feelings, going deep to deal with the past).  

Home Environment:  The rulers of both Nodes (past/future) are in the 3rd house.  The early home environment provided mental stimulation and placed great value on communication.  Darwin was raised to be uncomfortable with emotional displays, instead the family members talked themselves out of expressing their natural emotions.  Words/intellect/brilliance/wit were used as a screen from feeling emotions, and whatever was not "logical" was rejected.  He buried himself in his work because he distrusted emotionally charged situations.  He was able to provide mental stimulation for his children, imparting the love of books, learning and teaching.  In his household there was a capacity for rich enjoyment of sensual pleasures.  The home environment was stable, fairly serene on the surface, and family members were not easily rocked off centre by emotions.  

Parents:  Darwin's parents were socialite free-thinkers (Venus rules MC), the father a wealthy society doctor and financier, and one grandfather a physician.  Darwin helped his father as an apprentice doctor at age 16.  Having come from this privileged family background, feelings were negated in favour of value judgments about worth, achievement, recognition and social status.  He had been expected to conform to family dictates by being pushed to get ahead and therefore suffered coldness in place of genuine affection.  After the death of his mother, the sensitive inner child with the Moon in Capricorn was left with the cold, hard reality of the father, the family and the culture that shaped him.  With Moon squ Mars he carried a projection of needing to be mothered, accepted and nurtured by the father, his family and society, thus creating co-dependency with societal figures.    

Death:  His mother died when he was 8 years old.  The transits at that time reveal:  Tr Chiron exactly sext Moon;  Tr Saturn squ Saturn-Neptune-Asc;  Tr Lucifer Gemini 6th opp Tr Neptune Sag 1st;  Tr Mars conj SN;  Prog Mars conj Mars;  Prog Moon conj SN;  Prog Sun squ Saturn.  Carrying a fear of death (Moon rules 8th house) due to the loss of his mother and later followed by the loss of two children (Mars rules 5th, Mars ruled by Venus 10th, Venus tri Sat-Nep 12th) resulted in frozen emotions, fear, depression, becoming immersed in his own darkness, being trapped in survival mode, becoming overly-cautious to trust in life, and creating a psychological reality or fortress to protect the emotions (4th house ruler in the 10th).  Combined with issues of responsibility, he carried grief, guilt, rage and powerlessness at not being able to save his children.  Rather than floating on the ocean of life he would become afraid of sinking like cement and drowning.

Sun:  Darwin's current life egocentric structure inwardly identified with his current life purpose via the Aquarius Sun which urged the inner child to individuate, liberate, grow up and parent the inner child.  With the Moon in the sign of Capricorn, he naturally desired to uphold the status quo to maintain a sense of inner security, yet he was destined to go beyond the consensus via the Sun's purpose, will and power.  

Moon-Mars-Venus: Past life suppressed childhood trauma (Mars rules 4th) resulted in a rage complex and meant that at home he was prone to being alone/independent and locking the grief inside.  The emotions were blocked at every turn when initiating action (Moon squ Mars) causing frustration.  Fighting-disagreements-arguments (Moon squ Mars) against all that societal/religious baloney caused enormous internal pressure to transform his emotions (Cancer 8th) from cold-rigid-stern to caring-compassionate-deep therefore evolving the Soul.  Because these argument were so "public" there was no place to hide:  he was forced out of the well to soften his emotions.  Mars needed absolute and utter freedom in order to carry out the Soul's desires therefore he created a fairly (what he thought) worry-free home environment organized to satisfy physical needs but not emotional needs:  and this describes the pressure, the crisis in action, of the Moon squ Mars.  Saturn Sagittarius 12th (ruler of the Moon) demanded "˜karmic' retribution through spiritual belief system:  forgiveness of the societal members that made his life hell.  He was vilified by an "˜angry' society (Mars 10th) whose goal was to stay in the unconsciousness of the past spiritual/religious conditionings, and this further stymied his sense of self-worth bringing anger up to the surface.  With Venus ruling the SN and the 10th, the tired reality of the past was being superseded by Mars at the cutting edge of evolution.  Moon squ Mars (first qtr) demonstrated the building of a new reality based on a renewed value system which would encompass changing inner patriarchal messages that had plagued the Soul in times past.  The Moon's crisis in action would serve as an evolutionary impulse to break free of cultural norms and religious conditionings by taking a completely new direction.  Venus being ruled by Mars generated traumatic confrontations with others when contrasting new ideas with the old.  Some pressure was released through an instinctive desire to have his emotional needs immediately satisfied through comfort, food or sex.  Self-centred, insensitive behaviour toward others together with emotional coldness elicited aloneness, alienation and rejection.      

Asteroids:  The instinctual forces of the matriarchal line of ancestors represented by Vesta Aries 4th were able to keep the eternal flame of security needs going through putting energy into being of service to others.  Venus-Vesta (conj IC) inconj Uranus-NN created hypnotizing power on an instinctive level to beckon others to an emotional connection, yet the emotions were held back and detached.  This is a reflection of wounds sustained in past life childhoods which deeply imprinted the Soul.  Reverting to living "˜in the head' and not being able to connect these energies into meaningful relationships created crisis and isolation.  From this lonely place an inner focus would create an objective yet caring perspective, a purification and improvement.  However, if too much emotional pressure came from the environment, the Soul would dissociate and retreat back into the safety of the well.  His committed relationship with his wife helped him to communicate his emotions (Moon sext Juno).  Energy flowed to his Moon via Moon tri Natural Lilith.  Moon opp Dark Moon Lilith Cancer 8th correlated to the necessity to transform the sudden eruptions of rage, anger and emotional darkness that had been deeply embedded within the Soul over lifetimes (Mars squ DML).  Although extremely painful, these aspects allowed Darwin to explore the power of life and death and to enter the taboo places of dark seething emotions (DML tri Pluto) that harboured betrayals, abandonments, jealousies, resentments, and revenge, in order to clean up that past life karma.  These difficult cataclysmic experiences allowed him to enter the underworld of extremely deep dark emotions bringing them up to the surface to be eliminated.  With Saturn 12th ruling the Moon, there was a continuous "letting go" or surrender to a Higher Power that brought peace amidst the turmoil.  All of these experiences threw him back upon himself to strengthen his emotional structures, and to become "emotionally self-reliant."  Since the Moon's frozen emotions were based on an irrational fear of death, there was a possibility of complete emotional breakdown which would then become the catalyst for inner exploration into the mysteries of the feminine, the mysteries of death, and into his own childhood in order to cleanse the Capricornian "fears."  Resolution Lilith in Gemini 7th squ Pluto facilitated bringing psychological understanding to his unconscious domination/submission dynamics, love/hate dynamics, and fear of death, in order to change the "inner messages" of doom and despair to more positive messages.  Ruler of Resolution Lilith, Mercury squ Neptune, lead to exploring the after-life.  He dealt with self-doubt and not feeling good enough or ready enough (Lucifer conj PPP).  With minor planet Eris, the goddess of discord, sext Neptune, exactly squ the Nodes (skipped steps) and ruled by Uranus conj the Resolution NN, Darwin had to go deep into the water to find his uniqueness and break free of the conditioning patterns of melancholia, sorrow and rage.      

Disillusionment:  Because Pluto was in Pisces, there was an ability for deeper understandings and insights received from different dimensions (Pluto ruled by Neptune Sagittarius 12th) through imagination and intuition.  The Soul had direct links to the water element necessary for evolution (Pluto in PISCES, ruler NEPTUNE in the 12TH HOUSE).  One of the core emotions correlating to Neptune is disillusionment meaning that the Soul had been projecting a sense of ultimate meaning onto something (ideologies, religious conditionings, false paradigms) other than Goddess.  The Natural Law behind the disillusioning process was for the Soul to continue to ask questions that would lead it to uncover the REAL Goddess.  With Saturn (ruler of the Moon and the 2nd house) bals. conj Neptune (ruler of Pluto), the Soul became a vehicle for timeless knowledge, yet also experienced confusion, dissociation and disillusionment forcing him to surrender and dissolve the ideologies of the old cycle.  With Saturn-Neptune squ Pluto (last qtr), he was culminating a series of lives in societal/religious conditionings, and breaking free from all that had come before.  With Moon septile Pluto (last qtr) the special purpose was a socialized issue, not a personal one, however, only by breaking down the rigid blocks to his personal emotions could evolution proceed.  An obstacle to evolving the past was the resistance to offer himself in a way that was needed or in tune with the collective unconscious (Neptune inconj SN full ph).  He learned to surrender what he could or could not do within society.  Confrontations (crises) with others lead to necessary spiritual and ideological disillusionment, that lead to actually feeling the depths of emotion, in order to culminate the SN patterns (replacing self-absorption with humility).  

Uranus-North Node: In order to break down the rigidity of the Moon, it was necessary that he experience sudden shocks, traumas, dissociative states, betrayals, abandonments, violations of trust, and rejections by the group, that would actually allow him to "feel" anything since evolution would only proceed through the emotions.  The Moon describes an obsessive need to fit into a group and therefore suppress (Capricorn) many facets of himself in order to belong.  The traumatic experiences of feeling he didn't belong in a particular group in the first place had the effect of opening the flood gates of emotion cataclysmically in order to break down and eliminate the limited conditioning patterns of the past, feel his natural uniqueness, and recognize and follow his own unique path within the collective.  Uranus conj NN meant that liberation from rigid egocentric patterns had been worked upon in recent past lives.  With Uranus tri Pluto, the Soul created the necessary experiences of bonding with like-minded others on an intellectual level and formed relationships that represented what he lacked and was trying to become.  Through these relationships with powerful forward-thinking individuals and groups his innovative special gifts and capacities would benefit the community.  However, with Uranus ruling Pluto, he was re-living his own Soul's past in order to break free of that past that had caused his emotions to become frozen in sudden shock and trauma.  

Accelerated Evolution:  With Mercury conj Pluto, and Aquarius ruling the 3rd house, his forward-thinking views and ideas went against the religious thinking that had basically controlled society for centuries.  The new theory of evolution that he created went against the grain of Christian society.  This development describes the collective unconscious energies of Uranus-Neptune-Pluto working to bring about a massive traumatic emotional reaction that served to accelerate personal/collective evolution by liberating from centuries of religious, political and scientific conditionings, dogma and judgments.  Uranus conj NN ensured revolutionizing the egoic structures yet brought the chaos of the emotional world too close for comfort creating a sense of further alienation and hiding.  While Scorpio wanted intimacy, Uranus wanted space.   Taking the "˜safe' path to avoid societal judgment would cease to work with Uranus blasting through with forward-moving, unconventional, powerful ideas society was just not conditioned for nor wanted to change what it thought about evolution.  When he repeated the "familiar feels secure" patterns of self-importance and self-imposed isolation to the detriment of the evolving ego (NN), evolution would take place in an accelerated fashion by forcing him to share his ideas, values and beliefs with others (Uranus opp SN).  When resisting the evolutionary axis, he fell back on "˜tried-and-true' values because of a fear of persecution and judgment, a fear of losing his personal identity, or not surviving.  The emotional pain of this cataclysmic opposition would constantly create social relevance for the evolutionary intentions and in turn result in personal transformation of the limited Capricornian emotions upon the platform/foundation of expanded values, meaning and purpose for life.

Integration: Emotion was a much-feared experience yet it was necessary to journey within in order to develop the self-love that would provide a secure foundation of self-worth and personal autonomy.  Seeking love for the sake of outer success (Venus rules MC), or to satisfy a compulsive need for attention (SN 5th) would be supplanted by going within to find that love within (2nd).  A favourable karmic inheritance conducive to the Soul's evolution was expressed as objective awareness, ability to listen, and make comparisons (Venus tri Saturn-Neptune) strengthened by following through on instinctive desires to cooperate and share with others.  Positive emotions of empathy, compassion, sensitivity, and devotion to others created new pathways to evolution.  Due to the trine sometimes being too easy, dreaminess, weak boundaries, lack of discrimination and individual/collective guilt patterns lead to disillusionment felt in the emotional body, and this also lead to evolving the emotional body.  The mental component (Mercury sext SN) of the past life ego stimulated and aided inner contemplation, objective observation, and reasoning faculties.  This aspect enabled the contrast and comparison of great quantities of data.  He was able to ride the waves of the ocean (Neptune rules Mercury) in order to practically apply his understanding through developing techniques and skills to foster the special purpose.  When successful, the Moon was able to integrate evolutionary growth by way of a genius for organization and a strong sense of discipline and responsibility that resulted in a personal sense of satisfaction for accomplishments thereby redefining personal value systems (self-worth).  The Moon in Capricorn allowed him to proceed slowly in a non-threatening way to integrate the revolutionary theory of evolution into the consensus since he intrinsically understood how the consensus 'felt' and operated.  

Why the Current Life Moon?  Obstacles to feeling the Capricornian emotions are represented by the pull of the patriarchal past, the SNs of Jupiter(1st)-Pluto-Saturn-Venus-Vesta conj Moon all in the 2nd house.  Together with a repeating theme of a Taurus SN, survival had been a crucial issue in the Soul's past.  Within his Soul were the memories of all manner of persecutions and judgments that had impacted upon his sense of self-worth.  These planetary SNs are linked to lifetimes around the patriarchal take-over, the suppression of the Capricorn energies, and the distortions that resulted.  The Moon opp NNs Pluto-Saturn-Neptune Cancer/Leo 8th was the means by which the patterns of the patriarchal past and therefore the emotional repression could be transformed and healed by taking them to a deeper level (Cancer rules 8th).  With Saturn ruling the Moon, 2nd house, and these planetary SNs, many of the conditioning patterns of the patriarchal/religious past were being culminated.  The ideas, beliefs and truths that had once served as the STRUCTURE FOR REALITY could no longer "SUSTAIN" the Soul, and therefore it became necessary to CREATE A NEW REALITY based on what was natural that would allow an understanding of more of the Total Truth, that is, Natural Laws, hence the reason for the Soul creating a Moon in Capricorn in the 2nd house.
 
Conclusion:  The theory of the survival of the fittest, a patriarchal construction based on separation/boundaries (Capricorn) and what he thought of as natural laws, gave him a sense of foundation from which to expand his sense of self-worth, and brought expanded values, meaning, purpose and achievement to his life.  Due to Pluto ruling the NN and Uranus, and the requirement to redefine the past in the face of the past, traumatization/objectification dynamics lead to an easy (or cataclysmic) elimination of obsolete information and an inflow of new information.  With Uranus trining Pluto, the Soul took a giant step in personal accelerated evolution by acting as the "messenger," the "true magician," the "awakener" (Uranus) of the consensus and therefore was able to powerfully direct (Scorpio) the forces of the collective in a non-threatening way (Capricorn).  He was able to make an impact upon the consensus by deviating away (Uranus) from the norm (Saturn) and developing an entirely new method of understanding Natural Laws (Sagittarius).


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Thanks Rad and group for this further opportunity to practise.

Love,

Linda


Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: mirta on Apr 12, 2013, 09:03 AM
Hi Rad and Group
Thanks Group for the teaching offered in your contributions. Thanks Rad for making all this possible.

Here some notes on my intent to understand why this Moon.

A Revolutionary with a conservative anima
Furthering prior life desires of understanding the nature of reality, the Soul's evolutionary intention in this life was to know the whole truth objectifying consensual "reality" and distinguishing it from Reality.
In former lives the Soul needed to lock itself between close limits in order to feel safe, but these was subjective egocentric limits. In order to overcome frustrations the Soul has also pushed limits (SN ruler in Aries), and because of the flip-flopping with NN in Scorpio also manipulated to attain its goals.
Now through the Cap Moon the Soul intended to consciously focus on limits and limitations, in order to accept ego frustrations as a way to mature, as well as accepting responsibility for its limitations, frustrations and errors (guilt).
The causes of frustrations and limitations were need of security and egocentric desires of actualization, locking itself in his own desires and beliefs and intents to control others and even the flux of life; the causes of guilt were avoidance, absence when needed by relatives.
In addition, in 3rd Individuated the Soul is beginning to understand that power is not based in a dominant ego but in self-dominion, in identifying the soul as the Dominus (Lord) of the ego, the lens for the Light from which it is a photon.
Thus a Cap Moon, ruled by Saturn in Sag conjunct Neptune in 12th house: the ego, the center of consciousness focuses according to a conscious structure aligned with Natural law and intended to give human concrete form to Consciousness, to the All.
In 3rd Individuated, with Saturn balsamic to Neptune in 12th house and LQP square Sophia, we can say that the goat is arriving to the top of the egocentric mountain and its desires to control its life, and becomes ready to perceive the need to surrender to God; to perceive that there is still path to thread in order to attain the top of the spiritual mountain. This is reflected in the repolarization of consciousness in order to embrace universal truths, related to the Absolute and not limited by the belief system. (Moon balsamic Novile Sophia, trine PPP conjunct NN Sophia, Saturn and Neptune LQP square Sophia; Moon LQP square NN Mars conjunct Vesta in 4th house, Moon NP conjunct SN Pluto and Jupiter).

The transition from the past fixed SN to the future - 11th NN in Scorpio with the intention of deconditioning through observation and acquiring objectivity by knowing deep causes  - needed a reflective ego, able to manifest from the baseline of past knowledge and experience and ripened by experience and awareness achieved in prior lifetimes (Mercury balsamic Pluto), but  directed to new building and new formulations in the belief system (Jupiter NP conjunct Pluto, Venus in Aires NP conjunct Jupiter).  Therefore the choice of a cardinal Cap Moon in a firm fixed house.

After lifetimes exposed to authoritarian control of made-man religions and moralistic societies, experiencing fear of external judgment, persecution  and consequent repression, the Soul wants to find new ways of understanding nature of reality and personal freedom from moralistic conditions that created guilt. 
Now the soul intends to penetrate to the nature and causes of repressions and distortions, breaking free from them but accepting responsibility for natural guilt.
For this to occur, it is imperative to reflect on all the causes that have lead to a cumulative state of guilt, and the negative self-image that it produces by means of a high degree of internalized compression (instead of repression) that induces an awareness of how the new individual's ego structure must become progressively refined through reflection and understanding of the causes of trauma. The change in the subjective position, focused on timeless values and actual Reality gives orientation to the creation of structures that allow the evolutionary intention to take root.  (Moon semisextile balsamic Sun, ruler Saturn balsamic Neptune in 12th house, CP square Mars in 10th house).

Emotions
When analyzing the Jungian functions of consciousness in the chart, we find that Water (emotion) is the dominant function.
However, except Uranus in Scorpio all water planets and asteroids are in Pisces, and Pluto and Moon's rulers are balsamic in 12th house. Emotions are related to spiritual or transcendent themes, while personal emotions are not very mature or evolved, and there is fear of their vulnerability.
It looks like a Soul that brings a patriarchal concept of Spirit as transcendent, with focus on spirit and matter, but skipping the emotional realm, feared as "feminine" or vulnerable
And although Ceres conjunct Pluto suggests a powerful need to become a parent and nurture, the nurturing function appears more related to intellectual children or themes.( Ceres in 3rd house conjunct Mercury and Jupiter, trine Uranus, opposite Urania; Ceres SN in Cap conjunct asteroid Prometheus, and NN in 6th house conjunct Pandora  which is in Gemini conjunct NN Uranus)
Jung said that "This spiritual inflation is compensated by a specific inferiority of sentiment, a real undernourishment of the other side, the side of the . . . personal sentiment" (the English version is mine, sorry!)
Therefore an intention of overcompensating this difficulty of expressing personal emotions with the earthy function: reflection or responsible care, duty.  Being the Moon the only earth planet (in an earth house), when isolated it  overcompensates  as a defense mechanism by intensifying its characteristics. In the life of Darwin we can see this in the list of conveniences of marriage, and also in his responsible dedication to family, especially his children, which resulted a way to contact with his emotional vulnerability.
With Cancer in the 8th house, power could be found in vulnerability, in developing internal security and even in nourishing himself and his family.
With Moon balsamic conjunct to SN Saturn, Venus and Vesta, the cycle of understanding and overcoming patriarchal and egocentric structures in his consciousness and values is culminating and finishing. At the same time the ego is already beginning a new cycle of relation to the patriarchal collective roots regarding emotions and nurturing.( Moon NP conjunction to SN Pluto and Jupiter, Moon LQP septile Ceres)

JWG defined emotions (Moon) as reactions to feelings (Venus). With Venus in Aries in 3rd house, SN ruler, the Soul's feelings have been impulsive, narcissistic and self-oriented. 
In addition, SN Venus in Cap in 2nd house conjunct SN Sat and SN Vesta suggests prior fear of vulnerability, due to losses; also persecutions and cruelty in the passage from matriarchy to patriarchy.
On the other hand DkM in Cancer in 8th house reflects distorted manifestations of emotions caused by the repression of them because of fear of vulnerability, as well as emotional manipulations. (Ruler Moon in Cap conjunct SN Saturn, Vesta and Venus)
The Soul's reaction to these past feelings and guilt was one of responsibility and safe limits, and the intention of throwing off the distorted emotional manifestations consequence of repression. (Moon opposite DkM)
The emotions that the Soul couldn't deal with were lived in the body. Although currently is  said that almost all his health problems were consequence of Chagas disease, including Helicobacter Pylori, his stomach disease and headaches look like psychosomatic illness related to Moon and Venus-Vesta. 

Animus-anima relationship: JWG spoke about the dark side of the Moon related to the Jungian archetype of the anima/animus, the male/female component in all of us. "Evolutionarily, some Souls reach a point in which it is necessary from an evolutionist point o view to make a conscious effort, Moon, to integrate this anima/animus into behavioral reality every single day." (The Moon Workshop).

I will consider here the anima archetype as a complementary relationship to the persona as reflected in the Moon-Sun relationship.
Anima as an inner personality is complementary to the persona and stands in a compensatory relationship to it.
"The persona, the ideal picture of a man as he should be, is inwardly compensated by feminine weakness, and . . . because the inner world is dark and invisible . . . and because a man is all the less capable of conceiving his weaknesses the more he is identified with the persona, the persona's counterpart, the anima, remains completely in the dark and is at once projected, . . .  (CW 7).Hence those qualities absent from the outer attitude will be found in the inner.
In order to actualize its special destiny the Soul choose a stable, consistent and structured Moon complementary to his deconditioned, revolutionary Sun. However, the structures were not manmade but aligned with the Source through the Natural Law, as reflected in the Moon's ruler.
Jung also suggested that in a man's development, coming to terms with the anima is the "master-piece", and the goal is her transformation from a troublesome adversary into a function of relationship between consciousness and the unconscious.
In the life of Darwin, on one hand this was intended through his "paternal" Cap Moon, through which responsibility and duty (also Vesta in Aries in 4th house, SN Vesta in Cap conjunct Moon) regarding his children was the path to finding inner contact with his vulnerability and emotional power.
On the other hand, it is reflected in the fourth of the stages of the anima that Jung distinguished and personified as Eve, Helen, Mary and Sophia. In the first stage, Eve, the anima is indistinguishable from the personal mother; the man cannot function well without a close tie to a woman. In the second stage, personified in the historical figure of Helen of Troy, the anima is a collective and ideal sexual image. The third stage, Mary, manifests in religious feelings and a capacity for lasting relationships.
In the fourth stage, as Sophia (called Wisdom in the Bible), a man's anima functions as a guide to the inner life, mediating to consciousness the contents of the unconscious and cooperating in the search for meaning.

Asteroid Sophia (whose SN is conjunct Pluto and NN conjunct PPP) is conjunct Sun, LQP Saturn and Neptune, and FQP trine Uranus, looking like a possible mediator between consciousness and unconsciousness.
The Moon balsamic to Pluto, Sun and Sophia (novile), trine PPP conjunct NN Sophia suggests also an Anima in an advanced stage gestating new perceptions and revelations to come in future lifetimes. Sophia NP conjunct Sun and Pluto NP Sophia are hints to these new spiritual perceptions, for ". . . as psychopompos she [Sophia] conducts the path to God. . ."

Thanks Rad for this wonderful oportunity to focusing on the why of each planet,  and for any correction that will help me some-time understand how this blessed paradigm works.
God Bless
Mirta 

Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Apr 12, 2013, 09:44 AM
Hi Mirta, Linda, Gray, Kristin, Upasika, and Ari

I will not be able to review your work until Monday due to my need to take care of some life issues.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Apr 15, 2013, 01:45 AM
Hi Rad,

I was expecting to have posted by now, although it's been a bit of a struggle. I've just had a lot of other commitmments previously arranged for over this past 7 - 10 day period, and then a few additional hold-ups have occurred as well. I have been working on it though and it's not far off being finished - I'll have it posted by early to mid Tuesday morning (gmt) or maybe a bit before that. I realise that it's now way behind everyone else though so my apology for that, and I realise that you'll most likely need to move on, and if so please do. And thanks for all your wonderful guidance.

blessings Upasika

Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Apr 15, 2013, 09:23 AM
Hi Kristin, Ari, Gray, Linda, and Mirta........

I will address all of you at once this time because, in combination, all of your EA work is simply exceptional and brilliant. In combination all of you have through your EA reasoning have create a total and accurate understanding of why Darwin chose to have his Moon in Capricorn: the past that lead to the present which leads to the future. Thus, the intent and application of his N.Node in Scorpio conjunct his natal Uranus, and these being ruled by his very Soul with his Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd.

Reading through all of your work is just stunning to me, and such an incredible joy to see how all of you have learned and applied Evolutionary Astrology. All of your work reflects a depth and comprehensiveness that no other kind of astrology can even come close to providing. Your work, and the intention of EA, is to understand the 'why' of anything. Most of astrology, as you all know, is a descriptive astrology that describes what is seen or perceived, but does not address the natural laws of cause and effect: why.

For all the others who are following and reading this thread all of you are providing an invaluable contribution to the teaching of EA itself because this is exactly how it is meant to be learned and applied.

My hat is off to all of you. God Bless you for making this effort not only for yourselves, but for all others WHO CAN BENEFIT FROM THE IN DEPTH EA ANALYSIS'S THAT YOU ARE PROVIDING.

We will wait for Upasika right now and then get on with our next step which will involve the planet Mercury.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Apr 16, 2013, 10:36 AM
Hi Rad,

Finally here posting - thank you very much everyone for waiting.

                            Why is the Moon in Capricorn in the 2nd house?

In the act of creation, Source expanded from within Itself - and out of nothing there was One. Through this Oneness, each Soul has been created and projected into being by Source. And from Oneness duality has arisen with the associated underlying laws of motion, magnetism, electricity and gravity.

Each created Soul is immutable, and inimitable - representing an eternal and unique (if tiny) facet of the Source itself. As such, each Soul is simultaneously an apparently separate form of Creation, yet also inherently united with and thus one with the Source. Existing in such a duality, the Soul has no choice but to evolve (change), which it must do according to the laws of Creation. Simply, the Soul's evolution can proceed in one of two directions - into more and more separation, becoming ever more individualised; or into less and less separation, dissolving ever more back into Source.

In any one life the Soul's evolutionary intentions are based on these two types of desire, with the particular mixture of desires being determined firstly by the Soul's evolutionary stage, and secondly (as a result of the Soul's past) by the Soul's evolutionary intentions for the future. And due to the nature of the function that the Sun and Moon fulfil in our charts, they are both intricately bound to these evolutionary intentions of our Soul. In any one life, for each person it is the Sun and Moon that register these evolutionary intentions - via urges to act, conscious desires (Mars), arising from the usually unconscious Soul (Pluto). And through this process all the other energies in our life (our minds, our relating energies etc.) are then also correspondingly mobilised.

Together, the Sun and Moon - the two most visible and obvious and lights in the sky - describe the sense of self that has been imparted into the personal life by the Soul. Firstly, the Sun, imbued with creative purpose reflecting the Soul's intentions, floods the personal life with light and vitality, and is usually a point of maximum consciousness. The Sun's location in the chart (sign and house) is where this consciousness is naturally anchored, focussed. The sense of self imparted by the Sun is a feeling of being a creative force, and the experience of this is universally the same - the feeling of simply existing - for no reason at all, just existing as a creative being. This universally shared sense of ourselves is our natural and simple sense of being present as "I am", oneself, and feeling distinctly unique in this. The Fire signs correlate to the sense of specialness that arises from this realisation of newness, uniqueness, and in Leo (the Sun's natural home), the sense of being a unique self is heightened into a peak experience of "¦ "I AM".

In the night sky the Moon always reflects the Sun's light - just as our feelings (Moon) reflect our creative sense of Self (Sun). Feelings are like water, they are very changeable - mirroring not only what is sensed via the Sun in terms of feeling unique and special, of being "I AM", but also mirroring everything in the environment that we are consciously or subconsciously aware of on a moment-to-moment basis; including other people and our responses or reactions to them. Our feelings (Moon) determine whether we either raise or trim the sails on our ship (the Sun) as we interact with our internal and external environment, thus making the continuous adjustments necessary to stay focussed on our purpose (held within the Sun), thus being able to integrate on an on-going basis the desires arising from the Soul via Mars. In this way the relationship between the Moon and the Sun is the critical balancing factor in the psyche, responsible for maintaining it's dynamic equilibrium - a constantly changing point of balance which subsists through time.

Consequently, like the Sun, our feelings (Moon/Venus) and emotions (Moon - reactions to anything causes the initial feelings involved to become charged with energy, to become e-motions) also contribute to the sense of self. However the sense of self the Moon provides is different to that promoted by the Sun. We are not usually so conscious of our feelings and emotions - the Moon operates much of the time at a more subconscious level, and while through the Sun we have the experience of always being (more or less) present in a constant way - at least in our waking hours - through the Moon we constantly shift from one inner state to another, in and out of moods, through different feelings and emotions. As a general rule, in our everyday functioning, inwardly nothing stays the same for very long - here we constantly change as we either mirror or react to the constant changes in our inner and outer environments.

As human beings what makes us feel secure is consistency - things staying the same. We would struggle to cope with life if the objects in our environment didn't stay in their fixed forms, if the table alternated between being solid for a while and then liquid for a while. But the table doesn't ever do this, and we take it for granted that matter has a constant form, at least as far as normal everyday living is concerned. Also our solar sense of "I am", our presence, is also relatively constant, and we mostly take that for granted too. Just as we are present today, generally speaking for better or worse we know we can expect to be present in exactly the same way tomorrow too. Yet we all know that no two days are the same, in fact no two moments are the same, and despite often wanting to repeat the pleasurable moments, it never seems possible - each moment is always inevitably different, is new, and thus unique. This constantly changing present moment is always endlessly arising out of the moment that has just passed. And the only way we can keep abreast of this changing phenomenal kaleidoscope is via our feelings and emotions, via our Moon. On a personal basis it is largely via our feelings and emotions that we constantly monitor for, and register, change.

Naturally, if we were constantly changing inside in concert with every change going on in and around us, both small and big, we would feel giddy, out of control, and most insecure. For the average person life would simply be a nightmare. So of all the changes we subconsciously register, we naturally filter out anything we aren't interested in - as far as providing us physical and emotional safety, and an internally consistent sense of self is concerned. And for each person it is the location of the Moon that defines what has been identified by the Soul as the internally consistent sense of self. For example, if the Moon is in Gemini, then mentally ordering each feeling and emotion as it occurs as a way of processing it will provide the sense of consistency required by the personality to feel secure. If the Moon is in Capricorn, then feeling respected through adhering to the status quo agreements of any group, community or society in which the personality is operating engenders the necessary feeling of consistency. So in this way, just as the location of the Sun is where our creative force, our integrative capacity is located, the location of the Moon is where we create an internal anchor, inwardly a consistent sense of self that is intimately personal and as varied and different as there are people on the planet. It is therefore via this internalised sense of self that we feel our difference to everyone the most; it is this sense of self that we identify as truly being "me", the "I" I have been, and the "I" that over time I am moving towards, am becoming.

Thus it is this internal sense of self that is the agent of separation - as it is the anchor of consistency that we have to constantly create to buffer ourselves against the tides of unceasing change both inside and outside us. This internal lunar sense of self - the lens through which the consciousness of our being (the Sun) is filtered - is the mechanism in us that maintains our separation on a moment to moment basis, which then becomes the complex emotional basis for our entire on-going sense of ourselves, our inner picture of ourselves - our personal definition at any point of time, our "personality", or in other words the Ego. All this is represented by the Moon.

Our Ego works to keep us out of harm's way, and focussed on our primary imperative - our creative purpose - which will in turn bring into effect our Soul's evolution. The less adjustments we have to make, the more our feelings and emotions are of a constant nature, the more continuously consistent the feelings and emotions that we experience are, the stronger the sense of being safe is felt, the more we are able to relax, the more we feel we naturally "belong" regardless of what environment we are in. The ego (Moon), created in this way to provide security and relaxation, and to ensure that we stay focussed on our creative purpose (Sun), is always in it's own particular relationship with this creative purpose, and the continuous integrative process that is associated with the unfolding of that (the Sun). The Sun and Moon operate in tandem, as a natural pairing, and the location of the Moon in the chart is always linked to that of the Sun, with this relationship being shown by the aspect phase between the two.

Another way that the Moon is related to the evolutionary intentions of the Soul is through it's Nodes. Via the Moon's Nodes we can see how the need for egocentric consistency is expanded beyond any one life, being extended from the past (S.Node) through the present (Moon) and into the future (N.Node). So to determine why Darwin was born with his Moon in Capricorn in the 2nd house we will also need examine the lunar Nodal axis.

As has been pointed out in so many ways by everyone, this is a very high stakes lifetime for the Soul of Darwin. This is shown by the Soul intention to culminate a whole cycle of evolution - to transition through resistance, insecurity and fear of the unknown towards surrendering to a Higher Will (collective unconscious); by the intention to dissolve many karmic remnants remaining in the Soul. Also having such a large amount of energy accumulated in one concentrated area of the psyche, plus skipped steps from past lives still needing resolution, every planetary location in this life has now become critical and highly significant.

To recap how it has got to be like this we can briefly summarise this Soul's past "¦

Right from the Soul's distant past, family & children have been highly important to this Soul due to suffering from the very violent treatment given to them, and to the Soul itself, by various authorities, plus further social misfortune at the hands of deceitful business people, tricksters, violent rogues etc. This has immeasurably reinforced the importance of family to the Soul in very painful & sorrowful ways. (SN Pluto conj Moon 2nd and all aspects to it, S.Node Chiron 4th). As a result this Soul is deeply familiar with 2nd house experiences, and well acquainted with 4th/10th and 12th house issues, with inevitably intense soul memories regarding them all. Particularly, issues of survival and self-sufficiency have been the primary and overriding focus in a great number of distant past lives, and as a result, out of this desperation a focus on the spiritual side of life has arisen, with the Soul becoming heavily involved in organised religion, clinging to it devoutly from an inner security need (Moon). In this process it became immersed in, and also heavily conditioned by, scriptures and procedures (SNs Pluto/Sat, rulers and aspects to all etc.)

Because of the struggle for so many lifetimes simply to stay alive the Soul has learnt to always highly value it's parents and siblings, and in turn all the families that it has since created. Through knowing that any of them could be ripped away at any moment by harsh acts of others, or tragic events of nature, gradually over time they have become very deeply treasured. Also in these kind of conditions one's own self becomes highly important too, as survival depends on taking nothing for granted and being prepared to help oneself whenever possible. So out of such hardships the soul also developed an independent and self-centred nature, which over time also led to, as well as a desire for physical security, a desire for personal freedom (SNs Mar/Jup/Ura 1st). Because of this, as a natural extension of it's religious views, the Soul has desired to search for things of non-material value, and as part of that, enquired into it's natural physical environment which it perceived as a wonder of creation. Over time, this new independent approach slowly expanded to become a search for something else, gradually it more and more became a search for something of real depth - a search for ultimate meaning. To simply continue to plod on (2nd house) struggling against such limiting, oppressive and cruel conditions (SN Sat conj SN Ven: both square Mars in 10th, ruled by Sat in 12th - Sat also being the natural ruler of the 10th) had ceased to be a valid option anymore. Great disillusionment (Nep in 12th conjuncting Sat - ruler of SN Pluto) has been faced in those times, and the Soul's simple faith (SN Pluto sext Jup Pisces) in material sustenance alone (SN Pluto conj  Cap 2nd house cusp) collapsed. As well guilt that it has not been able to prevent suffering to it's families due to circumstances outside of it's control, and guilt from bringing suffering to it's family unnecessarily through direct provocation of stronger social forces.

Thus, arising out of all this, for the first time - a real search for the spiritual. And although still heavily conditioned by organised religion (Sat/Nep 12th), out of all this physical, emotional and mental hardship the Soul has identified within itself a new value (2nd house) of deep and vital significance. The Soul's new need was to find some true meaning in life (SN Jup 1st Cap) - from the Soul's own actions, and on the Soul's own terms (SNs Mar/Ura 1st Sag). Although such things cannot be determined from the chart alone, it appears to be at this point very likely that the Soul has made a break, away from the consensus reality and towards individuating. And also at this point that the Soul has recognised that it's best talent to approach this quest with, to use to instigate it, was it's mind (SN Pluto conj SN Mercury conj SN Vesta Cap 2nd). And thus the Soul's journey with the mind was launched.

We also know that between then and the current life the Soul has had a huge involvement in mental searching and development, asking it's own philosophical and spiritual questions and leaving no stone unturned in it's search for answers, for relief from suffering and for meaning in life (S.Node Jup Cap 1st sextile Pluto Pisces 3rd; Mercury balsamic conj Pluto; Jupiter new conj Pluto). We know that at many times this has involved the Soul having penetrating new insights, and creating numerous personal theories that seemed to explain diverse natural and social phenomena, that in short the Soul has had it's eyes opened by the truth many times. But in this process it has struggled to integrate it's truth with the societies in which it has lived. While often having something valuable to contribute, the Soul has often not been received or accepted by society due to it's ideas being too close to the truth, or too radical, or simply too bigoted etc. On many occasions the Soul's intellectual arrogance has bolstered it in the face of these setbacks. But in many other situations harsh rejection has been deeply wounding to the Soul, and it has suffered crushing blows to it's self-esteem. This in turn has caused the Soul to become abusive itself, to attack back, to become the persecutor. These actions have then caused a corresponding backlash from society, and the result has been a great deal of suffering.

Wearying from all this over many lifetimes has subsequently caused the Soul to periodically hide it's light as a way to minimise danger (being a monk etc). In these lifetimes the Soul has sought to isolate itself from society, abandon it's mind and it's contents, to sweep it's unanswered questions about life "under the carpet", and bury itself in learning religious scripts as a way of forgetting about all the psychological pain it was carrying. It was in these lives that the skipped steps (Chiron and S.Node Mercury square the Nodes) were substantially created. The many lives of struggle also catalysed the Soul into progressively surrendering it's wild, unruly and independent attitudes for more socially acceptable behaviours. And another result from all these lifetimes of struggle and suffering was the development of the Souls' feeling nature, it's compassion and the awakening of a desire to help others in the world.

In very recent lifetimes all this has come to a head for this Soul as the reality of the skipped steps (Chiron, S.Node Mercury) starts to finally surface. All the buried wounding from it's extensive family trauma, from a great deal of intellectual rejection, from it's failure to dissolve for itself the unknown, and from lifetimes of personal shock and suffering - had all started to cause severe energetic disturbances for the various personalities manifested by the Soul, and increasingly stunted growth at the Soul level. Starting to feel like a trapped rat, the Soul has started behaving like one "¦ losing sight of it's evolutionary intentions as it has alternatively engaged in periods of 3rd house activity, to periods of 5th house activity, to periods of 11th house activity, and periods of 9th house activity - and also chopping and changing haphazardly between them all as it felt the meaninglessness and stagnation in it's Soul increasing. So both Nodes have been active before the current lifetime, as well as the 3rd and 9th houses. We can see that the core issue is the need to bring so many lives of mental exploration and development (intensely packed 3rd house) to some kind of culmination, fruition (Mercury balsamic conj Ceres balsamic conj Pluto - all in Pisces 3rd ruled by {Sat balsamic conj} Neptune in the 12th), through creating a completely new philosophy, system of thought, or social understanding (Pluto new conj Jupiter). However with Ceres new conj to Mercury and in close balsamic conj to Pluto, his intellectual momentum has been lost and now needs reviving.

We can see the recent attempts to get a revival of his intellectual progress to happen, with the S.Node ruler Venus in the 3rd house trine Saturn balsamic conj Neptune in the 12th. the desire was there, however Venus is in Aries and being conjunct the IC and quincunx the N.Node, ruled by Mars in the 10th which squares the Moon in Cap 2nd, this would probably have manifested in attempts that were (again!) too self-orientated, and also too half-hearted or fearful. Old memories of rejection by authorities, of prison cells, of doubts about his family safety would have meant the Soul never got his personal intellectual renaissance happening from there. However what he would have done is ignite his creative spark again (5th house) and use his instincts and initiative to start rebuilding his resources (Taurus).

But when he tired of the lack of any significant progress at the S.Node, off to the N.Node he would go. Operating from the 11th house and a Scorpio psychology much more progress would have been looking possible. Ruled by Pluto, and also trine Pallas, Mercury, Ceres and Pluto, suddenly all his 3rd house Pisces energies would become available, and he would as a result be able to tap into all his intellectual skills from many past lives, plus he'd have constant insights and flashbacks to actual memories from those lives (shown via Uranus conj the N.Node - Uranus holds all these memories). However this would also eventually have been a threatening process for the Soul, as not only memories of intellectual value would be surfacing, but painful memories of trauma as well (Uranus conj N.Node), and so the Soul would inevitably always abandon the N.Node after a while too.

But it would seriously whet it's appetite for some kind of intellectual breakthrough. So besides deriving his core security from all the ideas he had become attached to (3rd house) he would also periodically try and synthesize some all-encompassing theories that would explain all the facts he had in his mind on a particular subject. This would have been difficult to achieve firstly, because due Pluto in the 3rd combined with the Taurus S.Node there would have been many fixed beliefs created that the Soul was stubbornly attached to for it's security. Also, while in bursts 9th house activity would have been a good exercise for his mind and intuition, it would also not have been happy camping in the long term there for the Soul either, as there is a close quincunx from the PPP to Chiron in the 2nd house, plugging the Soul yet again directly into more painful memories, and strong energetic disturbances on a cellular level.

So these very recent lives have been ones of stagnation and frustration. However they have allowed the Soul to reset it's "vision". The rat would have come to know all the walls of it's enclosure, it would have been able to experientially assess it's strengths and weaknesses, and measure it's readiness against the social norms of the day, making any corrections necessary as part of doing that, thus bringing itself into alignment with the social resources it will be needing (Mars Libra 10th Full quincunx Pluto). And the last life before this one was spent almost exclusively at the N.Node. This is because Uranus is conjunct the N.Node so we know the Soul has been working with that energy and function prior to the current life. But also the N.Node and Uranus are trining most of the 3rd house planets including Pluto. And given it was Uranus in the 11th as the energies and realm involved, we know the Soul was readying itself for a major breakthrough life, where the aims would be resolution of much trauma, liberation from it's own mental and personal limitations, healing from alienation and fragmentation, rebellion against the status quo, and a reclaiming of individuality.

So in light of all this, why did the Soul create a Moon in Capricorn in the 2nd house? We know why the Soul has created the Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd - mainly"¦

"¢   To provide fixity of purpose, stability, and focus on his creative purpose and thus his evolutionary intentions. To be consistent with good systematic organisation.
"¢   To ground his consciousness within the physical body, so that his wounds could manifest through his body so that he could finally face them and deal with them. This would allow healing due to the surfacing and release of the stored energy of the traumas in this way. To aid in listening to himself, and in the reliving of the past life traumas.
"¢   The need for objectivity in his work, and to detach from the most valued beliefs he had clung to for security for many lives (e.g. scientific ideas, some religious beliefs), so that a loosening up of his mind could happen. The need to liberate, to be open in the formation of his values so that new "treasures" could be found. The need for withdrawal and introspection so that he could re-formulate new ideas and concepts with minimum distractions. To resolve his skipped steps: the Chiron wounding around survival, but more importantly around his self-esteem. Plus to bring his mental journey to a completion (S.Node Mer in 2nd squ Nodes).
"¢   To be somewhat insular from criticism, rejection, rumours, and public attacks, so that he was not unduly affected.

So what is the relationship of his ego (Moon) to his being, to his creative purpose (Sun)?

All through what this Soul has experienced over so many lives there has been a background theme, or deep Soul purpose running. That of mental development - both logical and intuitional. And even behind that the Soul's real interest has been in finding the truth, the whole truth - a spiritual quest, a desire to return to Source. The desire to individuate that arose so many, many lifetimes ago was partly a reaction to the suffering and trauma the Soul had suffered at the hands of mainstream society over time, but in large part also due to a natural appreciation this Soul has had for nature from many distant lives ago (Sat in Sag 12th ruler of S.Node Pluto; Sat balsamic conj Neptune). And the whole journey into the mental realm was simply to get closer to nature's secrets, to hopefully penetrate the mystery of nature and in so doing perhaps also the mystery of the Creator as well. And it has proved to be a very beneficial pathway to take for this Soul as it has helped individuate greatly. However the Soul has found out in the most recent lives that this pathway is nearing completion, is almost spent as a viable individuation path (Mercury conj N.Node Mercury). That is why this lifetime is a high stakes lifetime - the mental body must culminate so that all the energy invested in it for lifetimes can be released, and a new journey using a different aspect of the personality can start for the future (the Soul's current life primary evolutionary intention). And it isn't only the mental body that is nearing the end of it's cycle. The emotional body too has matured through all these lives, and it is apparent that Darwin was coming very close to the spiritual stage, was preparing for it (all the Pisces, 12th and Neptunian factors in the chart combined with his actual life history). Consequently the Moon's rightful relationship to the Sun in this life was to in a balsamic phase - that meant the Moon could only be in the 1st or 2nd house, and in Capricorn or Aquarius. By having a Moon in the balsamic phase Darwin could focus on all his unfinished and incomplete business from a long series of lives. It would also give him the means to reflect on the meaning of life in an eternal sense, on the nature of reality as a cosmic (ordered) whole.

So which sign and which house? The house is always primary so that is the first to consider. This Soul has basically finished with Aries/1st house energies for the time being. They were used in the distant past to create independence (SNodes in 1st), and very recently as the Moon's SN ruler. It's a thing of the past, so that leaves the 2nd house for the Moon.

Now Capricorn or Aquarius?  

1)   The main stellium in Pisces 3rd is the powerhouse that will be doing the bulk of the work as far as the Soul's primary evolutionary intention is concerned. Darwin loved observation and scientific analysis. However the 3rd house is a mutable house and Pisces is a mutable energy, and given the critical nature of this lifetime and the high stakes involved karmically. The Soul MUST get things right this life, opportunities to do so will not be able to be as favourable for a long time after this life. Over a great string of lives the Soul has sacficed so much on the alter of the "Mind" at the expense of more emotionally fulfilling involvements, that it cannot go much further with this. So it is now vital that all this work is capitalised on and taken right through to full fruition (and not just done for the sake of enjoyment alone in any way whatsoever). And the best way to make sure that happened is to combine all this mutable energy, with the Sun's airy Aquarian energy, with EARTH energy. And Capricorn earth energy in particular would be ideal for managing the whole process to a solid result. Discipline would be a vital requirement of the personality in order for the evolutionary intentions to be completley fulfilled.

2)   We must also remember the mess the Soul has got itself in because of it's skipped steps. Particularly the Chiron skipped step. Chiron is a paradox in a way;   it orbits in between Saturn and Uranus, and helps make a bridge between these two radically different energies and functions. It represents a "unique combination of the creativity and vision of Uranus, with the respect for the past, personal limits and the laws of society and the material world";   in one sense life is a ceaseless process of transformation, but on the other hand we live in the world of separate forms, structure, limitation and suffering. So with Chiron and the Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd, representing the Uranus issues, we now need to balance that by having the Moon represent the other side of the wounding, by being in Capricorn, representing the Saturn issues. This will give the balance needed to help open up the Chiron wounds and to heal them.

Additionally, one aspect of the Chiron wounding was that the Soul has been over exposed to the collective unconscious in it's involvments with society in the past (Chiron Aquarius). The membrane between the personal unconscious and the collective has become too thin, allowing too much personal fear and apprehension to take root. Thus the Soul is now needing to be shielded from any more confrontation in this way to avoid any further damage of this kind to the psyche occurring. While the Sun in Aquarius will necessarily be challenging the status quo as it is, it is very important that these challenges do not get out of hand, as has often happened in similar past situations. Thus having the Moon in Capricorn in the 2nd will create a withdrawn, emotionally restrained and non-threatening personality - such a cautious approach is in the Soul's best interests in this "must culminate" kind of lifetime.

3)   The Moon is our link on a personally conscious and subconscious level back into our past. The Soul had a deep history with organised religion, and no doubt was carrying a reasonable amount of religious conditioning. By having a Capricorn Moon this link could be preserved, thus carrying forward into the current life a great deal of inbuilt security.

4)   The Soul would need to face the challenge (once again) of getting important and radical messages out into the world. It would be important that the Soul was equipped to deal with those people in society it needed to in order to do this to the greatest extent possible. Having a Capricorn Moon would allow it to resonate and relate in a traditionally acceptable way. This would create a great deal of social security for the Soul.

5)   A link to the past egocentric structure can be created by having the Moon squaring Mars in Libra 10th, as Mars rules Venus, the S.Node ruler. The Moon also quintiles Uranus (which conj NNode) in Scorpio 11th - great to channel the creativity of Uranus with, and to link into the N.Node 11th house "future" space. Also having a Capricorn Moon would enhance his ability to reflect, which he needed to do a great deal of ... he needed to process lifetimes of emotional trauma and guilt.

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a)   Again, having the Moon early in the 2nd house with the Sun late in the 2nd would allow the Soul to surround the skipped step points - Chiron and S.Node Mercury - thus keeping a great deal of consciousness close by and present to them.

b)   Also by having the Moon in Capricorn 2nd it can conjunct the S.Nodes of Jupiter, Pluto, Saturn, Vesta, Venus, and Mercury. This is an amazing emotional link back into all those distant past life energies. Plus being ruled by Saturn in the 12th, which is trine Venus the Moon's S.Node ruler, many of those old events were being repeated in his most recent lives. With the Moon being balsamic to the Sun, Darwin could bring all unfinished business relating to those past periods into his current life again, via recreated events and circumstances in his family and career life, even if largely scaled down in intensity, so he could have yet another chance to make new choices and new responses in the face of the same old dynamics. This would mean that the Moon was a constant pressure point for Darwin, a point of constant processing, and often a point of intense emotional pain (e.g with the death of his eldest daughter, and also the other children that died). But having the Moon in Capricorn in the 2nd meant he could often still function in his daily work life whether dire personal circumstances were occurring or not. In fact some of his best work in Origin was written when he was under intense family stress.

c)   With the Moon in crescent square to Mars in Libra 10th, Darwin was able to make many professional connections that immensely enhance his chances of practical success in the world. The solid themes of Capricorn here lent him the strength and determination, the maturity and sensibility required to win the cooperation and trust of a great many people, both in the scientific community, and just socially in the world. He was generally well liked, and handled all personal confrontations with grace, conscientiousness and humble practicality.

d)   The Moon trining the PPP meant he could keep tuned into his Soul goal on a daily emotional basis. This is a massive boost of help to the Sun to fulfil it's creative purpose, to reach the 9th house, keeping the goal close to the beating heart. Until the full concept for Origin came to Darwin, basically his mantra was "transmutation" which he practically muttered under his breath 50 times a day. Due to this trine he could smell and hear his salvation - the final culmination of his mental efforts into a new understanding (PPP) of great worth (Moon Cap 2nd house). He just needed to doggedly plod on until he could touch and taste it too (Sun & Moon 2nd house).

Childhood Environment and Parents
With Moon in Cap he would have been born into a family that was strong on tradition - at the least he would have supported whatever traditions his family adhered to. As a child he would want and respect clear boundaries, and would expect his family relationships to be sincere and without guile. He would have great respect for his parents, and look up to them as role models. He probably willingly took on chores and other responsibilities, and at other times found them to be very tedious. His main concern would have been to choose a family where there was some kind of worldly status, some intrinsic social standing and respectability to be born into. He would have shown respect himself for his siblings, and valued (2nd house) the family he was born into highly (esp. given his soul history of family trauma) - another reason for having a Cap Moon - to be able to revere the family of birth and any family of his own he might create.

He chose a mother who was going to die early in his life (Moon close opp 8th house cusp, with Cancer on cusp), as he is working on emotional maturity based on internal emotional security that he supplied himself (Moon balsamic Sun). Whatever shock this caused would have thrown him back upon himself, and set him on a path of emotional self-sufficiency (Moon 2nd) early in life. Thus he would have grown up not ever really missing his mother at all. And this would mean that by the time he was an adult he would be very emotionally balanced, despite the inner repressions and guilt he carried from his troubled past. And he still would have some emotional challenges with the nervousness and tension of the crescent square to his Mars in the 10th - but with Mars in Libra having some emotional energy available for moderate (Libra) assertion would probably be a good thing. He tended to be too dismissive of his feelings and too modest.

He would have been respectful to his father and grandparents (Moon Cap), although being in the 2nd house not necessarily wanting to follow in their footsteps - he would have strong values of his own, and prefer to withdraw into his shell (2nd) rather than follow someone or something he had no heart for (Moon LQ sextile Jupiter, Moon new semisquare Neptune).

As a Parent
Having a Moon in Capricorn as a parent would mean Darwin would take his role as parent very seriously, and very traditionally - he would see himself as the breadwinner, and as the authority of the family; his word would probably be final. With the crescent square from the Moon to Mars in Libra he would be able to relate to his children in a playful way, and appreciate their youthful qualities. With the Moon LQ sextile to Jupiter in Pisces 3rd he would want to teach his children from his own wisdom as much as possible, being willing to endlessly answer all their questions. Given his traumatic soul history with families he would spend much time with his family and his wife, and probably be somewhat possessive of them in a cautiously reserved way - with all those 3rd house energies he wouldn't feel to clip their wings in any way - being a bit of an eternal child himself in some respects. In another vein as Gonzalo pointed out his relationship with his children would also have a timeless quality to it (Moon balsamic semisextile Sun). He had an eternal love for all his children, and in return they all loved him dearly, and were very protective of him.

How did Darwin see himself from within?
With Moon in Cap 2nd he would have seen himself as a quiet, civili8sed and eminently reasonable man, and indeed he would have been. He would have felt affectionate in a gentle and slightly reserved way, liking to observe those he loved without interfering with them, or needing constant physical contact. Yet he'd appreciate their form and particularly their intrinsic spirit (Moon sextile Jupiter Pisces). He also would have felt the organising of time to be very important (Cap Moon).

Fears & Attacks
Darwin would have had to face many fears with a Capricorn Moon. His need for respectability was naturally high because of this, but this would have been hugely magnified due to this issue also being that of his old Chiron in Aquarius 2nd wound. And would have feared that he would not be good enough at his work, that no-one would support him, that he would be rejected by the scientific authorities. The Moon rules his 8th house, and he would inevitably go through many transformations around emotional security as a result of his professional fears. Because of his Capricorn 2nd Moon, with it's deep link into his traumatic past, he had many fears about publishing his theories, and is why Wallace caught him so unprepared. He would often prefer to keep getting in more evidence as a way of avoiding writing up and publishing the huge amounts he already had. In particular he was frightened the authorities would come and get his family again, also once having a nightmare that he was hanged (Pluto Pisces {rules Ura 11th}, Nep {rules Pluto} trines Vesta 4th which conjuncts Venus which is ruled by Mars which squares Moon in 2nd).

He also shrank from anything verging on public or personal dispute/controversy. becoming very upset if attacked (Moon Cap 2nd, Chiron Aquarius, Uranus 11th, Mars Libra, Saturn 12th).

Gender Switch
Without being sure I feel this Soul is also possibly becoming aware of the need for a gender switch. It wouldn't be something that is in the Soul's immediate future at all, but something the Soul may have identified that will be necessary before too long, and is thus in the very early stages of preparation for it. This can be glimpsed via the Moon being in Capricorn and ruling his Cancer 8th house, the 4th house ruler (Venus) being in the 10th house, and possibly all his Pisces energies. His mother died when he was about 8 years old, and he had to be his own mother. Through most of his life he mainly kept in touch with his sisters, relating more to their feminine minds. He was possibly needing to balance his anima/animus out, and thus in the early stages of preparation for a gender switch after a few more lifetimes.


blessings Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Apr 17, 2013, 10:06 AM
Hi Upasika,

Thanks so much for making this incredible effort that you have. It is utterly brilliant EA work that weaves together Darwin's Soul dynamics that have lead to his choice of having a Capricorn Moon in his life. Your sense too that his Soul is preparing for a gender switch, for the reasons you have stated, is exactly right. Your work represents, as all the others who are contributing to this thread, the very best of what Evolutionary Astrology is, and how it is meant to be applied to our lives.

Brilliant work Upasika ..........

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Apr 17, 2013, 10:57 AM
Hi Upasika, Gray, Ari, Linda, Kristin, Mirta, and Gonzalo....

We have now reached the next step in our Planetary Method of Evolutionary Astrology. First, I want to post a transcribed lecture that Wolf gave in the late 1980's about Mercury, and then what he said about this next step involving Mercury in his Planetary Method lecture. I would like all of you to read this and if you have any questions please ask them after you have read this stuff through. If not, we will then proceed as to why Darwin chose the Mercury that he did, the S and N Nodes of his Mercury, and of course the reasoning and manifestation of why of all those planets in his 3rd House including Pluto itself.

So here is the lecture he gave on Mercury.

                             The Role of Mercury in Evolutionary Astrology                 
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Jeffrey: The first way we are going to be talking about Mercury and its role in evolutionary astrology, and in our consciousness, may sound somewhat abstract We are going to be talking about the nature of consciousness, but then we will apply it specifically to birth charts, i.e. putting Mercury in various signs, houses, and aspects to make it as concrete as possible.

The very first thing to understand about the necessary role of Mercury is that it correlates in the human consciousness to the need to give order and linear structure to the nature of phenomenal reality. Now what this means is that what we call reality or creation of itself is phenomenal. In other words, this blackboard that is next to me does not call itself a blackboard. I do, you do. What this means is that the nature of existence is inherently phenomenal, simply the creation of appearances. Now for the human consciousness to feel secure, emotionally secure, it has to give names to all the phenomenal forms and images in order to create a linear structure of reality. One name, blackboard, connects to another name, floor, wall, room, building, parking lot, the city of Tukwila which we are now in, the Northwest, and, of course the planet, then the solar system, etc. My point is that of itself these things don't call themselves these names. We do. So Mercury provides this role of intellectually ordering the phenomenal nature of existence. Now we can ask the question: "How does it know what to call anything?" One of the reasons is to he able to communicate with each other through a consensus agreement of what is called what.  If most people agree to call this phenomenal object a paper, instead of a sink, then there is a basis to communicate with each other. The bottom line is that we have, as part of consciousness, senses. Consciousness actually creates the phenomena of what you call senses: tactile, hearing, and so on. These are extensions of consciousness. In other words, if we approach a corpse, that is to say a physical body that is dead, it is no longer sensing. I can not walk up to a corpse and somehow put bread in its mouth and expect it to chew and/or taste the bread. There has to be consciousness to make that body sense, to be in motion. So what 1 am suggesting is that what we call senses are an extension of consciousness into the physical body. Now this is necessary because it is through the vehicles of senses that thought and perceptions are ignited in consciousness.

Now thought is a Mercury function. There are two types of thought. There is linear and rational thought, or what we could call deductive thought which is specifically linked with the left brain and Mercury. And there is intuitive thought, non-rational, non-linear, which is of course the right brain which correlates with Jupiter. My point is that based on sensory stimulus the very nature of this stimulus will actually induce or ignite thought. The bottom line is that that which is ignited, thought through senses, induces ideas: this is a blackboard next to me. Through senses I perceive form and function which allows for the idea to occur in consciousness. This very same mechanism, this dynamic, is that which ultimately orders all phenomenal reality. The point is that as we move through life, in any given life, we continue to have experience, meaning we continue to collect information and data from our external and internal environment.  This ongoing collection of information and data continuously ignites more thought and perceptions which ultimately leads to the creation of whole thought, and how whole thoughts are ultimately connected to other thoughts to create an intellectual whole, an organized mental whole that generates our mental understanding of our experience called life.

These thoughts are of course linear and deductive by nature. The very essence of Mercury via the left brain correlates to deductive logic, not inductive logic. Deductive logic simply means one phenomenon linked to the very next phenomenon and so on to build a whole. An example would be analogous to taking a jigsaw puzzle out of a box and throwing it randomly on the floor. Of itself it is not now organized and yet has inherent organization within it.  Sitting there it is a mess. As we begin to make connections (Mercury), i.e., this piece fits this piece, we enter into a deductive logic process in which we finally get the whole picture. All the parts finally are connected. This is a simple example of how Mercury works, and through the process of deductive logic we generate intellectual systems that help us organize as whole thoughts our experience of phenomenal reality. This is very important for those interested in human history for example. The very nature of thought/perceptions which are based on inner and external stimulus is the very basis of what we call language. The question is, since the human species happens to have been on the planet a whole long time all over the earth, why is there not just one language? We are all human beings, same species. Why not just one language? Why has there been this incredible diversity (Mercury) of language systems on the planet? Why? Anybody ever asked this question? Too boring to ponder? Very simply it reflects the evolutionary condition of the Soul, and is ultimately linked to the geographical locality of a people and the evolution taking place there. In other words, if you found yourself in aboriginal Australia, an aboriginal Soul, that is now living in the Outback of Australia, your experience of phenomenal reality in that type of organized ecosystem would he fundamentally different than if you found yourself in the late Renaissance of Western Europe.
The very nature of your perceptions and resultant thoughts would be different, and as a result your language would be different.

Audience: "Where does invention come in, like say the light bulb? Before it existed there was no thought, no experience."

Jeffrey: Well, ultimately you are asking a Uranian question, and the basic issues here, and this is probably a matter of debate for some: can anything really be invented, or can it simply be attuned to and, thus, create the appearance of an invention. My point is that in my opinion all that is called Creation in totality, and in potential, was manifested at the same moment, and yet through the process of evolution, which is a non-debatable issue when linked with time and space, the evolutionary requirements of the species on any given planet determines that which it is attuned to in order to advance the development of the species at that time. So this to me is a Uranian principle, or what is called in the astrology books the "higher mind".

So the nature of language then is very important to understand. How many of you have studied different languages? For those that have studied different languages, is it not true that by absorbing yourself into the language framework that you are studying that it alters your perceptions of reality? This is my point. Mercury provides this function, and it is totally based on the evolutionary requirements at hand. So language becomes a vehicle, obviously through which we communicate (Gemini, Mercury, Virgo) that which is the basis of our perceptions, the basis of our intellectual thought process. The very nature of communication itself is an ongoing learning experience. When you communicate with someone else more often than not you are going to hear something that you had not thought about.

That is why people talk in essence. And so here you are collecting yet more information. So it is an interesting process because as we generate experience of external phenomena stimulus it ignites internal stimulus manifesting as perceptions and thoughts; and vice versa which becomes perpetual. This is the essence of the learning process. Stimulus, again, is the very basis of thought and perceptions in consciousness. And consciousness evolves according to the requirements of time, space and geographic locality. Mercury thoughts are linked to perceptions and how we perceive, which in turn becomes the basis, as this progresses, of our intellectual framework. Rational, deductive, linear thought: sequential thought.

This is very different than Jupiter and the right brain. Again, the right brain is non-linear, non-deductive, "non-rational". Jupiter's function is to provide an abstract or conceptual basis for that which we perceive and think about.  If I find myself in aboriginal Australia and I am dealing with the nature of my phenomenal experience there, and I am generating language and perceptions and thought processes, at some point I am going to have to wonder, "What does this mean? What are the larger connections?". Right when I ask such a question this ignites the right brain. The point is that the right brain supplies conceptions or abstract principles to the linear and deductive thoughts of Mercury. This becomes the basis of what we call beliefs. The point is that Jupiter is the archetype in consciousness that makes us aware as a species, and as individuals, that we are connected to much more than just the immediacy of our physical environment; our eyes can perceive that there is a sky, stars, and planets around us. This gives rise to the larger questions of consciousness. How am I connected to this part of the universe, which becomes the basis of belief or religion or philosophy or metaphysics. All of us do this. If you examine the nature of civilizations East and West through time, you will find in every single one of them mythologies or religions that correlate to the individual's and the species' connection to the cosmos throughout time. This is a Jupiter function.

Now here comes the big issue. Who is right and who is wrong? Whose perceptions/beliefs are right? Whose are wrong? Are they all right, or are they all wrong? Are the exceptions/beliefs/ideas of Roman Catholicism somehow more relevant and right than the perceptions/thoughts and beliefs of a Tibetan Buddhist? Is my version right? Who is wrong? Who decides these things? The obvious issues - and here it comes - is that whatever your evolutionary condition is, i.e. what your Soul needs in each life to facilitate its ongoing growth, will determine the nature of your perceptions, which in turn determines the nature of your beliefs. If you have evolved and find yourself in a consensus state it simply means that your perceptions and ideas (opinions) are determined by your Soul's need to be in a consensus state, and as a result you will simply become a vicarious extension of the consensus beliefs of your particular culture. Do you understand this point? If, on the other hand, you are trying to be free from the consensus, to individuate and think for yourself, then your perceptions/thoughts and beliefs will simply equate to individuated thinking. Your thinking process will primarily be based on rejection and rebellion of consensus held beliefs as you seek to determine an intellectual/philosophical way of understanding the nature of your individuality as linked with the cosmos. If you find yourself in a spiritual state, which is very different than religion in the sense that religion is for the consensus, then you will ultimately realize that all perceptions, all beliefs, all paths lead to the same point of Creation. It is the ultimate Piscean symbol of unity in diversity.

This is a graphic point because if you will examine the nature of Mercury and Gemini you will find that it is connected in the natural zodiac to a mutable cross: 3rd/Gemini, 6th/Virgo, 9th/Sagittarius, and the 12th/Pisces. This mutable cross creates a natural state of dynamic tension within consciousness. Why is this and what does it represent, symbolize, in the area of consciousness? We have a natural conflict here between deductive and inductive logic. A natural conflict between singular and sectarian points of the view, and universal points of view which are not sectarian based. The tension of inductive and deductive logic is a quite dramatic issue, particularly in this type of culture. Most of you, at least in this room, have grown up in an educational system that places a premium on left brain, linear deductive processes. When you go to school you are basically asked to memorize what you are being taught, not the conceptual basis of what you are being taught.  Most of you have been exposed to these systems in your early educational environments, and even in your parental environments, and have not found, as an example, meditation as part of the educational curriculum.

Audience: "Why do you think that is? Do you think that the U.S. and Canada are - I don't mean to generalize - in a lower evolutionary state than, say, the East?"

Jeffrey: It is not a matter of judging at all. It is simply a matter of observing the phenomenon itself. Because when you break down the nature of existence by way of the human species, it ultimately comes down to each individual. I mean, why is it that the Soul decides to be born in the U.S. versus Zaire or Tibet or New Caledonia? That reflects the individual Soul's requirements karmically and evolutionarily speaking.  So to answer your question specifically, it was based on the developments of Renaissance Europe and the transference between natural science, which is based upon observation and correlation, to deductive and empirical science, i.e., the effort to prove empirically that which is perceived as phenomenal. So, whereas those of the East do the very same proving through the inner microscope so to speak, those of the West try to prove it through the external microscope. My point is that neither one is better or worse, it just is and, in fact, can be quite complementary to each other if one's philosophy is universal in nature versus sectarian and dogmatic. So you have this dynamic tension between deductive and inductive logic. The point here is that inductive logic, the very essence of the thing, is to grasp the whole first in such a way that the parts reveal themselves in their own natural order.

Whereas the deductive approach, again, attempts to build the whole out of the parts. In this type of culture this becomes a major conflict. Why? Because no matter what culture you find yourself in, East or West, you still have a right and left brain. You still have an intuition and deductive intellect. You still ponder and ask the big questions. You still have spontaneous realizations which are not products of deductive analysis. Yet, because you have been conditioned by this culture to empirically prove everything that you think that you know, this creates a conflict between the right and left brain. As a result many people in these types of cultures tend to doubt (Virgo, 6th House) what in fact they are intuiting (Jupiter, 9th House), and through the Pisces and the 12th House symbol confusion results. My point is that Pisces and the 12th House archetype linked with this type of issue will cyclically or perpetually dissolve any thought/perception/idea/opinion that is limiting the necessary growth of the Soul. How many here have not experienced intellectual confusion?

This is the experience of Pisces coming through Gemini, Virgo, and Sagittarius. Even if you find yourself right brain based and have these magnificent philosophical structures to explain yourself to yourself and others, if those belief systems or philosophic structures themselves are only a version of the whole truth then, at some point, those very happy beliefs will not be so happy any more. They won't work. The whole point of Pisces linked with this dynamic is ultimately to embrace the whole truth, not a version of it, not a limited understanding of it: all of it, Unity in diversity, all paths leading to the same point   Now believe me, the left brain can not prove any of this. Of itself it is limited. So at some point in order for such a truth to be grasped there has to be a transference in consciousness from the left to right brains as your primary guide in your consciousness. That is to say, allowing Jupiter to lead Mercury, not Mercury leading Jupiter. Now when we link this with astrology you can put Mercury in various houses and signs and aspects. What is this going to tell us? If you have Mercury in Scorpio, or in Virgo, or in Pisces - amazing position for the thing - or Mercury in whatever sign, is this at all suggestive of what kinds of perceptions and thought processes you are going to have? Is it at all suggestive of how your intellect - left brain - is of itself naturally oriented to the phenomenal existence?

Is it suggestive of how you are going to intellectually put together and then communicate the nature of your phenomenal experience and existence? Is the Mercury in Scorpio going to be different than the Mercury function in Taurus? Are the very nature of its thoughts, how it arrives at those thoughts, how it puts together one thought with another thought, and how it communicates such thoughts, going to be different? And then the question becomes: why is it that your Soul would choose to have Mercury in whatever sign, in whatever house and with whatever aspects? Clearly the ultimate answer is to facilitate the very next step in your evolutionary development. If we look at it this way, is one Mercury in whatever sign better or worse than Mercury in another sign? Why judge it at all? Why not see it as necessary?

If we illustrate some of this stuff, if you find yourself with Mercury, say in Scorpio in the 1st house, what kinds of thoughts and perceptions do you feel such an individual may have? How are they going to be intellectually putting together their reality? How would you anticipate such an individual would communicate? Who has an idea here? Let me ask a rhetorical question first: do you think the person is going to be intellectually interested in superficial conversation? Do you think such a person would indiscriminately read any book? Why not? If you answer no - you are all shaking your heads - why not? Is it just possible that this signature is looking for very specialized information that reflects the general and overall sense of purpose in life? And is it also possible that by narrowing upon specialized information relative to the implied purpose, whatever that may be, that this narrowing could produce intellectual limitations that would be reflected through resistance to other sources or forms of information? If so, how would this impact on the individual's way of communicating, and how he or she listened to or received communicated information from other people?

Audience: I know an individual with Mercury in Scorpio in the 1st house and it would appear that his mental nature, the nature of his Mercury, penetrates down to the Soul level, always recapitulating knowledge and going deeper and deeper, stirring it up and transforming and evolving it.
Jeffrey: Okay- Is it also possible for a Mercury in Scorpio individual to experience within itself, as a consequence external to itself, periodic limitations in its thought process; that they have reached some sort of limit?

Audience: By the nature of Scorpio going deeper and deeper, there would always be boundaries that had to be gone through and penetrated at deeper and deeper levels. One would assume that it would be a frustrating and liberating position. Frustration when they reached that boundary, and then liberating in terms of a great inductive breakthrough, i.e. Jupiter seeing the bigger picture, going to a deeper level.
Jeffrey: Okay. It we put this very same Mercury in Scorpio in the 1st house it is like a de facto Mercury in Aries. Are we going to be looking for a person who is wanting to do independent thinking, to at least challenge (Aries archetype) the pre-existing opinions of many other people? Is it basically going to want to be a free thinker? If these are related archetypes, is it not going to have the ability (Mercury in Scorpio) to penetrate to the intellectual limitations or weak link in somebody else's argument? By being able to penetrate to somebody else's weak link, is it not in a de facto sense attempting to prove the worthiness in its own thought process? At minimum we would say such a person is an intense thinker looking for bottom line information that correlates to its life experience, and its requirements. Those very over-all life requirements are the determining or causal factor in the information that it selects to bring in. This is why it would have no tolerance for superficial, indiscriminate information. The Mercury in Scorpio within consciousness would instinctively operate in this way. If we contrast this Mercury with Mercury in Libra, and put the Mercury in Libra in the 11th House, now what kinds of thought processes, perceptions, communications, information gathering would we anticipate?

Audience: International mediator.

Jeffrey: Let's remember this very deep issue about Libra. You have to remember its natural polarity is Aries. In order for a Libra archetype to understand its individuality, i.e. the Libra/Aries polarity, it must initiate a diversity of relationships with a diversity of types, with a diversity of opinions, a diversity of value systems, and a diversity of belief patterns in order to evaluate its own individuality through comparison and contrast. If you have this as a Mercury function within the 11th house, have we not potentially magnified the potential volume of relationships and information necessary? In this initiation is it not possible for a Mercury in Libra person at some point to lose sight of its own individuality, what itself thinks, what its own mental process is, its own ideas and opinions? Is this not possible? If this occurs could we not anticipate the Mercury in Libra person running about trying to validate itself through the opinions of other people?  "What do you think about this?" would be a typical Mercury in Libra statement. Could we not say in general terms that the Mercury in Libra person is intellectually oriented, is going to have a primary focus, to understand the nature of human dynamics and human relationships, and, more broadly, the inter-relationship of everything within Creation? And this being the very basis of its need to communicate and initiate with so many. Does this make logical sense to you?

What if you have Mercury in Pisces? Let us put it in the 3rd house, the natural Gemini house. If you have Mercury in its natural archetype, i.e., the 3rd house which is linear, sequential, deductive thinking and yet the very essence of Pisces is the antithesis of this archetype, is there not a natural internal conflict within this person's mental process? Is it not logically seen in this way? Is not the Mercury in Pisces of itself going to naturally think in metaphorical terms or parables or analogy:  poetic? Our fellow friend Jesus had six planets in Pisces in the 3rd house. How did we experience his communication? Still trying to figure it out, eh? Pisces!

Audience: "How do we know he had six planets in Pisces in the 3rd house?

Jeffrey: It was a chart rectified by a theologian named Moby Dick. Funny name. His real name was Donald Jacobs. He is the father of Jayj Jacobs. He bases it on the Bible and rectifying. I mean, he was a theologian so he studied Biblical history obviously. Of course there are many charts created for Jesus by astrologers, but you know if you study Biblical themes yourself and read what he researched it would in all probability make intuitive sense to you. As an example: all those Pisces planets in the 3rd house are opposed by Pluto and Mars retrograde in Virgo within the 9th house. Is that possibly a symbol for crucifixion based on beliefs? It has Mercury in Aquarius: the unexpected message. It has the South Node in Scorpio conjunct Neptune - the son of God. Sagittarius rising - all the traveling that he did in his early life, let alone within Judea itself. And why is it that so many of his analogies are linked with fish and fishing; the "miracle" of walking on water; the emphasis on healing, and the one God which is the essence of all gods and goddesses which were so prevalent in those pantheistic times. My point is that here is a man who clearly spoke in parable, metaphor, and analogy. It is one of the very reasons that Christians have been confused ever since. It becomes the breeding ground of sectarian points of view. This is the problem with Mercury in Pisces, that the Mercury part of this individual can sense, perceive, much larger wholes, much larger frames of reference than the Mercury function itself can logically order. As a result it must speak in metaphor, parable, allusion; to allude to something much larger, higher and grander.

This of course is problematic for many people who find themselves in modern societies. How many current modern societies in the West honor such an intellectual function? What happens to such a person when they are exposed to public education in 1989 in America? So typically this particular symbol learns (Mercury) to adopt (mutable archetype) the language systems of the culture that it is exposed to. Therein lies the origin of the conflict. Do you understand? We can also link Mercury to various planetary aspects as conditioning this function. As an example, what if we had somebody with Mercury inconjunct Uranus? What kind of thinking process, perceptual process, intellectual organization process, and communication process would we anticipate in such an individual? Let us remember that the essence of the Uranian archetype is to liberate from any pre-existing condition which is limiting growth, and as a result sets up the need to rebel. Let us agree, if we can accept any form of metaphysics, that Uranus at this level can correlate with the Universal Mind, the archetype that has been in place since the beginning, the blueprint which we only have to attune ourselves to somewhat like the radio dial. The signal exists. You just have to tune into it.

Audience: That linear thought becomes non-linear on occasion.

Jeffrey: Let me ask a rhetorical question now. Is it not possible in that person's consciousness that their radio dial, i.e. their inner Mercury process, is attuned to a signal (Uranus) that they find great difficulty (inconjunct) in finding the specific words (Mercury) to communicate through?
Audience: Would you then say that the individual is unable to explain the notions and concepts that he or she has of the greater?

Jeffrey: Yes, he or she would find very deep difficulty in finding the specific language or word sequence.

Audience: That Mercury by its nature moves an individual toward liberation and so in that moving toward liberation you have a rhythm and a build-up, and then every once in a while it will trip, you know, spontaneous Uranus, and it will get like a spark, liberation. Then, it is like a radio tuning out as soon as it gets strongest.

Jeffrey: That is right because one of the very deepest experiences of an inconjunct is inadequacy; less than perfect.  So if you have got this mental process that is attuned to something higher than itself, and it is now trying to find a word to explain it, it is simultaneously aware of its inadequacy. This creates frustration in the communication. It can paralyze the individuals' mental process. This is analogous to the centipede that has a thousand legs. The thing is fine as long as it keeps walking, but as soon as it tries to figure out how, say, leg 46 works, it is over: paralyzed. So the whole challenge of the Uranus/Mercury inconjunct is to speak as it comes, not to (inconjunct) analyze as it is coming. If that happens you have leg 46 in operation.

Even if you look at it at a brain level, you know, Uranus happens to correlate with dendrites in the brain. Dendrites are responsible for the evolution of the brain. It also correlates with synapses and all the wiring of the brain as does Mercury. Well, if you have Uranus linked with Mercury it is like 10,000 watts coming through a 5 watt bulb. It tends to blow itself out. It can create a tremendous excitation in the brain. When you see that particular signature all that you have to read yourself is that that is a Soul that is planning to rapidly evolve its brain in this life, to create all kinds of new dendrites, all kinds of new realizations. Any time you have an "aha", or a new realization, or a new thought you have never had that spontaneously occurs, that is a dendrite being made in your brain. You are experiencing within yourself Uranus. And, of course. Mercury kicks in and tries to find the linear word sequence, logical sequence, to explain what it just spontaneously got. That is when frustration can occur.

These are typically people who have obviously unique and original thoughts. Yet those very thoughts can be so far ahead of their time (Uranus) that it creates crisis (inconjunct) with many others who attempt to hear it, or listen to it.  Keeping in mind that Mercury correlates with the anatomy of hearing. It can overload the nerves that allows us to hear. People tend to - Mercury - tune out or externally rebel against this person's communications. Why? They are challenging the existing status quo of mental consensus; thus the emotional security dynamic in consensus type people. Guess who had Uranus in the  3rd house Retrograde in Virgo? That's right: Einstein. Most of us remember the little slogan he made for us: when genius interfaces with mediocre minds you should expect violent opposition. The essence of this interface is resistance because of the challenge to the existing status quo mind-set.

Audience: Immanuel Velikovsky had Mercury conjunct Uranus, and he came out with his book way ahead of his time, and was ostracized by the scientific community as a result.

Jeffrey: That is very true. In fact if we carry that particular example forward he postulated, based on his theories in the 1950s, that if his theories were right they would find a certain type of climate on Venus. This was before they sent any spaceship up to Venus. At that time the prevailing scientific community had a completely and altogether opposite view of what that atmosphere would be. Of course he was roundly criticized, blackballed from university speaking and so on for 20 odd years. And then when they sent the space probe up to Venus guess who was right? So now he is revered. His ideas were ahead of their time.

The last thing to grasp is that we are going to have transits of Mercury. Also we are going to have a sign on the 3rd house cusp, and it is going to be ruled by a planet which also then directly correlates to this mental function of organizing the phenomenal nature of reality. There will be a sign on the 6th House, and a planetary ruler which will correlate with the analytical function of rational intellect. There will be a sign on the 9th House, and its planetary ruler, and, of course, a sign on the 12th House with its planetary ruler which all contribute to this left brain/right brain function of consciousness in a total sense: from ideas and perceptions to a philosophical belief system dynamic that allows any individual to understand the nature of his or her existence. And yes, we must consider the specific nature of the houses and signs that Jupiter, Mercury and Neptune manifest through. This may sound like a lot to understand, but this total dynamic is the basis of understanding how all of these signatures, these planets are always transiting through the birth chart all the time. If you just key in on those particular transits, and particularly Mercury since that is what we have focused on today, you will find exactly where you are seeking new information at any point in time, and how this new information either supports or conflicts, obliquely or directly, your pre-existing intellectual apparatus, your pre-existing opinions, your pre-existing beliefs at all times.

If you have a transiting Mercury moving through the 3rd house for example, what would be a simple analysis here? Is it not a simple statement that that person's consciousness is looking for new ways to understand the nature of their life at that point? And that the sign that it is transiting through will determine the quality and type of that information? Let's say you have Cancer on your 3rd house and let us assume that maybe you have had some difficulties in your biological family. Now let's say that the transit of Mercury moving through the 3rd house correlates to a period of time in which the person naturally reflects on that early environmental experience, and as a result seeks new ways of understanding (Mercury) that experience in his or her life. Is it not possibly a time in which the person may attempt to initiate conversation with those parents, maybe a time in which a new book on the psychological dynamics between children and parents was read, or maybe going to a seminar, workshop or class for this purpose?

Audience: I see the impulse to gather more information and churn it around to communicate more, but isn't that focus of understanding going to be based upon a Jupiter transit?

Jeffrey: The connection to a larger understanding would be.  The collection of information is Mercury.

Audience: In the case of a Mercury transit as to the 3rd house or anywhere else, is there really any desire for understanding attached to it?

Jeffrey: Of course. I mean that is the very nature of going back to where we started. Why would I call this a blackboard? For me to feel secure I have to intellectually organize my reality, to give it names. Then later on Jupiter kicks in and simultaneously links it with abstract concepts and beliefs. Another example: what if we transit Mercury in Scorpio through the 12th House. What would we anticipate? And let us say that it is going to be there at least a month. And what would happen if it went retrograde there?

Audience: Intellectual chaos, but eventual transformation. That could be a tremendously evolutionary leap depending on how you dealt with it. If you go inward it would kind of be like a sifting through, a travel through space, but eventually when the transit leaves then the person is going to come back out having better knowledge.

Jeffrey: Yes, but it presumes that the person allows for a metamorphosis of pre-existing intellectual structures that are limited to be dissolved. If there is an allowance of that dissolution then it can translate into inspiration, new inspired thought. On the other hand, the person may experience within him/herself all kinds of thought demons in their consciousness which they can not trace the origin of. They might at that point feel like they are a prisoner (12th house) of their own mind. Or, depending on how it is handled, it might be a time frame in which the individual attracts to him/herself people, based on their own inner need, who have all kinds of highfalutin 12th House way of explaining reality (Mercury) that now confronts the person's existing intellectual structure. Of course, in typically Scorpio language, the person may say "Why is this happening"?

How many of you have Mercury retrograde in your chart? Some of you probably do and don't know it.  How many have a retrograde planet forming an aspect to your Mercury, your Mercury itself not being retrograde? Almost all of you now have Mercury retrograde! These are called oblique retrogrades. Now when you have Mercury retrograde at birth just think of the retrogrades as an arrow, an arrow that is pointing to Jupiter. In other words, it is attempting, through its left brain function, to make it "non-rational". Evolutionary speaking, this particular symbol means to intellectually/philosophically simplify. It means evolutionary that there have probably been some prior lives in which the person has not been intellectually discriminate, and has collected at random too much information and data to the point where the intellect has been overwhelmed and confused. As a result the individual comes into life into which he or she must exercise extreme discrimination in terms of what information it allows itself to bring in that is specific to the person's evolutionary purposes. This is why typically, not always, but typically retrograde people, when they go through a learning experience, if that information is not pertinent to their personal purpose they are going to have a very hard time taking it in. They just tune out.

Audience: "Why is that?"

Jeffrey: Why? Because they are trying to only select information that is pertinent to their personal purpose.

Audience: "Where does that come from - connected to your own personal purpose?

Jeffrey: Well, I just gave the answer a moment ago, that in most cases ..

Audience: I need to hear that again, I have Mercury retrograde!

Jeffrey:  That typically these people, prior to this life, have indiscriminately selected and collected too much information and data to the point where the mental apparatus is overloaded. Confusion, too many competing perspectives, intellectual doubt. As a result they come into a life in which they must exercise extreme discrimination in terms of what information they take in which is now specific to their personal purpose. This is why we have advocated for many years that, at least in this type of society, there should be schools for Mercury retrograde people, taught by Mercury retrograde teachers! It makes logical sense. Where is the school? You start one. Somebody has to. We'll call it Mercury retrograde school.

Audience: To help people discriminate, is that what you are saying?

Jeffrey: No. It simply requires very personal attention in education; to teach the child or the adult what they are interested in at the time they are interested in it. Then they will take in what is being taught wholesale. It is almost like a photographic memory at that level. But you have to remember that you have a natural dynamic of Gemini/Sagittarius/Virgo and Pisces. If the person is in fact not interested in what they are hearing they tune out. They kick in Pisces/Neptune. They space out and they have fantasies or imaginations that are more interesting than what they are being exposed to. Any more questions?

Audience: Yes, I would like to know what is your idea, what do you think about the idea of Pluto being exalted in Gemini?

Jeffrey: You want my opinion? Bullshit. To me there are no such things as falls and exaltations. It is just what it is. This is old time astrology. Well, we must conclude this lecture now. I hope you have all found something interesting here today, and thanks for coming. God Bless.

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And now what he said in the transcript from the Planetary Method regards Mercury.....

The next step in our Virgo sequence is Mercury. Why? Mercury is now going to provide the intellectual structure. Again, we are all living in a phenomenal reality, yes? We started with Pluto, the nodal axis of the moon, Sun, and moon. And now you can see if you look at this evolutionarily, you can see why the Soul (Pluto) was picking Mercury in whatever house, sign and aspect. That's the kind of intellectual structure, meaning how I am going to intellectually organize in rational ways. That is how I explain to myself what my life experience is about, which is ultimately reflecting its evolutionary intention. This is how I give the intellectual super structure to this process. So I create an intellectual structure that creates rational thinking within me that creates an explanation and justification, which I then communicate to other people. This is why you have your specific house and sign of any given Mercury.
You understand the point? 

You see, life is either random, or it is in fact some sort of inherent order, you see? And if we look at it this way, we are looking at life and astrology non-judgmentally. This eliminates all the 19th century crap--exaltations, falls--it is irrelevant. We replace all this terminology with two words: what is. This is why you can have your Mercury in whatever house or sign. It is the way that you need to put it together and understand it intellectually through your left brain. Mercury in astrology specifically relates to the left brain.

Audience: What if Mercury is like right on a house cusp?

Jeffrey: Again, if you always use your ultimate perspective to understand the chart and then use an evolutionary perspective--transitions between past, present, future--then you can answer your own question. Any planet on the cusp is going to correlate evolutionarily either to culmination, meaning the planet just before a given house, or if it is just within that house something has already culminated and a brand new cycle of evolutionary development is now proceeding. So if Mercury happens to be the operative symbol it is simple going to mean a soul who is deciding to think, in this life, in altogether radically different ways than it has ever thought before.

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Again, if you have any questions please ask them of me now.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Apr 18, 2013, 10:29 AM
Hi Kristin, Linda, Mirta, Gonzalo, Gray, Ari, Upasika and anyone else who wants to join in ....

So we are now ready for our next step in Darwin's chart which is to understand why his Soul chose to have his natal Mercury in Pisces within the 3rd House. So we want to examine the fact that his Mercury is sextile to his S.Node, trine his N.Node and Uranus in Scorpio in the 11th, square Neptune/Saturn in Sagittarius in the 12th, and part of whole group of other planets and asteroids in his 3rd House. His N.Node of Mercury is also conjunct his natal Mercury, and his S.Node of Mercury is in Capricorn in his 2nd House which is then conjunct the S.Nodes of Jupiter, Saturn, Pluto, Vesta, Venus, and Neptune.

What is really astounding from an EA point of view is that his S.Node of Mercury through geodetic longitude that correlates with the Galapagos Islands ! This S.Node is ruled by Saturn/Neptune in the 12th House in Sagittarius.....traveling to an island.

Since you have now read the transcript of JWG's lecture on the evolutionary role of Mercury go ahead and answer the 'why' of the total Mercury signature for Darwin. Within this focus on the very nature of how Darwin would 'think' and what he would think about. Focus on how Darwin would try to put together through his thoughts and empirical way of ordering and organizing his thoughts, and how those thoughts would be communicated to others: the very nature of how he would communicate with others and himself. Within this focus on how and why Darwin would desire new information, what type of information that would be, and how that new information would be integrated within his existing intellectual understanding of anything.

If you have any questions please ask them of me now.

God Bless, Rad

Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Apr 19, 2013, 12:19 PM
Hi Rad, just to let you know I'll be working on this by later next week.
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Apr 29, 2013, 11:12 AM
Hi Rad touching base again - I'm now getting started with this interpretation today.
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Kristin on Apr 30, 2013, 01:31 PM
Hi Rad and group,

I am having some health issues that are requiring my immediate attention and so I need to bow out of this thread for now..I worked some on the Mercury portion but it is not ready to post ~ I know that the teachings you all will bring here will be incredible.

Hoping to be back soon.

Peace,
Kristin
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on May 01, 2013, 12:58 AM
Analysis of Darwin's Mercury.
In gratitude.
Love, am

Mercury in Pisces in the 3rd. Conj Ceres and Pluto both balsamic. Ruled by Neptune in Sag in 12th. In first quarter square with Neptune and Saturn . Mercury is also the ruler of his 7th house and squares his AC-DC axis. Mercury ruler of intercepted Virgo in the 9th. Mars Gibbous sesquiquadrate Mars in Libra in the 10th. Mercury first quarter trine Uranus and North node.

A lot of this has already been specifically addressed during the initial Pluto and the nodes interpretation, since Mercury is right there with Pluto. We're looking specifically at how this soul has created an intellectual framework for identifying and giving names to the objects of phenomenal reality. Why this Mercury, how did this serve the soul's ongoing evolutionary intentions?

In prior lives this soul has already been on a literally never ending quest to gather more knowledge that would explain the interconnectedness between all things. Mercury balsamic to Pluto in Pisces. Yet the implications therein, and this is emphasized by way of the square between Mercury to the 12th house planets, is that no amount of knowledge will ever be able to connect all the dots to the point that the totality of consciousness is understood in a total way through the mind alone. And yet the first quarter square with Mercury to its ruler, Neptune in Sag, implies that in the life of Darwin the intention was to formulate a new way of thinking about the origin of life, the total meaning and nature of all things. The stress within this would be to see new perspectives, instead of falling back on the logical conclusions that had been previously made. For example, throughout the early years of Darwin, there was a solid attempt to rationalize why the bible was total truth.

QuoteWith the aim of becoming a clergyman he went to the University of Cambridge for the required BA degree, which included studies of Anglican theology. He took great interest in natural history and became filled with zeal for science as defined by John Herschel, based on the natural theology of William Paley which presented the argument from divine design in nature to explain adaptation as God acting through laws of nature.[2][3] On the voyage of the Beagle he remained orthodox and looked for "centres of creation" to explain distribution, but towards the end of the voyage began to doubt that species were fixed.[4][5] By this time he was critical of the Bible as history, and wondered why all religions should not be equally valid. Following his return in October 1836, he developed his novel ideas of geology while speculating about transmutation of species and thinking about religion.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Charles_Darwin: (http://from%20http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Charles_Darwin:)

The balsamic to Pluto correlates to a culmination that was occurring in the life of Darwin. There has been a deep seated security need to know, to come up with conclusions as to make sense out of why life is the way it is: why this species, why this development, why this environment etc . The intention was for this soul to bring to a culmination all kinds of perceptions (Pluto) regarding the nature of things; the evolutionary intention to totally focus the mind, to concentrate - and in that sense weeding out opinions and perceptions that do not logically add up. The fact of this Mercury ruling the intercepted 9th house - which pretty much just has Lucifer there, means that there was also a great degree of existential lack; self doubt regarding his ability to synthesize everything and connect to larger reality outside of what he was able identify. His mind was ultimately directed towards creating a sense of unity and context through a logical set of conclusions based upon a large set of observed data (Mercury trine Uranus) which allowed him to essentially put to rest, exhaust, the strong need/desire to know (Mercury balsamic Pluto). This balsamic conjunction implies to me as well that after the life of Darwin, the soul would be setting forth on a new evolutionary journey - breaking apart the old constructs as the soul would become exposed to more subtle data/sensory experience that would then lead to a completely new investigation into the interconnectedness of all things.

The first quarter trine to Uranus and the north node, given that they are both ruled by Pluto which takes us back to a mutual reception between Neptune and Jupiter, implies that a lot of these observations classifications and conclusions had already been intuited to some degree, and that this life was about creatively actualizing what had already been previously sensed. The Mercury balsamic to Pluto again would create difficulties in actually putting to words the raw content that his brain was able to pick up on. There was a great importance for this soul on alone time - this allowed him to formulate his ideas and transfer the Aquarian observations into direct correlations and classifications. Uranus is the ruler of the 2nd house, Chiron  in 2nd square the nodes, and all the correlations to the Moon in the 2nd already discussed.

The Mercury sesquiquadrate to Mars emphasizes a theme that comes up a couple other times as well: the need to put forth effort relative to his own accumulation and identification of data and ideas while also operating within a social context that has its own established rules and social constructs. The stress within this would be something regarding the need to fit into the prevailing social structures, what other people expect of him as well as how he has become conditioned to behave, without that limiting his need for drawing his own conclusions; the need to keep his mind completely open and receptive to whatever may show up.  Initially, there was a great amount of doubt and guilt within this soul relative to his scientific findings and conclusions:

QuoteDarwin was clearly worried by the implications of his ideas and desperate to avoid distress to his naturalist friends and to his wife. When first telling his friends, he wrote "it is like confessing a murder", and his writings at the time of the publication of Darwin's theory suggest emotional turmoil. What is unclear is whether this was anxiety about disgrace and damage to his friends, or about his loss of faith in Christianity, or indeed a rational fear of the harsh treatment he had seen meted out to radicals and proponents of evolutionism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin's_health#Religious_tension (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin's_health#Religious_tension)

The purpose however was to simply continue with his work and to allow it to all unfold as it would, which it did. Interesting though that this gibbous Mars Mercury in relation to the Pisces/Neptune disillusionment about God and the bible, with Mercury ruling the intercepted 9th house. I can sense within these signatures, in relation to the Pisces Sag squares, how emotionally devastating it would have initially been for this soul to come to the kinds of conclusions that he ended up coming to.

One general correlation of Pisces linked to the 3rd house and its square to Neptune in Sagittarius is forgiving himself for the answers he cannot find. During his trip on the beagle, he finally let go of the theologies that he was not able to logically sustain, and in so doing became receptive, Pisces, to a more lucid and whole and logically sound organization of reality, 3rd house. Of course this happened on a boat in the water.

The south node of Mercury is in Capricorn in the 2nd house, disseminating square with Mars in the 10th - further emphasizing the prior life stress within this soul to oblige by the accepted social opinions. Yet the evolutionary emphasis for this soul is clear with the north node of Mercury on Mercury itself all trine to the North node and Uranus leading us back to the Aquarius in the 2nd house: to continue to put together more of the pieces of the puzzle of existence no matter what that looks like.

Mercury squares and rules the 7th house. On the DC itself is the north node of Uranus, also in a disseminating square with Mercury. This symbolizes the ongoing evolutionary intention for this soul to open its mind to more perspectives, more ways of looking at the world of appearances. In the life of Darwin, there would have been important dialogs and conversations that would reflect back to him all kinds of dualistic/reactive thought patterns - constantly confronting where there are unanswered questions, and always another possible perspective to engage. Since Mercury squares Neptune Saturn and the Sag AC as well, I can see how these dialogs would have served 2 general purposes:

1. To help him to see perspectives/gather information from others who saw things differently than himself, thus allowing for the soul to be exposed to more information and context.
2.In the same vein, to reflect back to him the limitations, Saturn, in all the various cosmologies and beliefs that use logic in order to re-capitulate and prove what has already decided upon as true.

I can see the possibility with this dynamic as well that Darwin would cylicly immerse himself in dialog in order to affect the necessary exchange of ideas and reflections - and would also frequently need to completely retreat from such dialogs. Pluto squares the DC ruled by Mercury which is in balsamic conjunction with Pluto. This emphasizes the ongoing evolutionary need to weed out unnecessary dialog and conversation dynamics/tendencies so as simplify, Sagittarius, all the data and perspectives through his own natural intuition.
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Post by: Rad on May 01, 2013, 09:58 AM
Hi Ari,

Thanks for making the effort that you have in understanding the EA of why Darwin chose the Mercury placement that he did. Your EA analysis is succinct and accurate, the EA reasoning employed being very sound. This is how EA is meant to be done.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Rad on May 01, 2013, 10:00 AM
Hi Gonzalo, Linda, Gray, Mirta, Upasika and Kristin

First, Kristin, very, very sorry to hear of the health issues that you have shared here that will prevent you from moving forwards, at this time, with the ongoing work on Darwin's chart. All of us are sending you the best of our energy to help you heal.

For the rest of our group please let me know where each of you are in the current step of understanding the EA of why Darwin chose the Mercury placement that he did.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Upasika on May 01, 2013, 10:07 AM
Hi Rad,

I'm working on it and should be able to post in the next day, or two.

thanks Upasika
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Post by: Gray on May 01, 2013, 01:15 PM
Hi Rad,

I am working on it- not sure yet when I will be finished, but I should be able to complete it in the same time frame as everyone else (unless everyone else posts today!).

Since we are on the subject of Mercury function, I've included a link below showing a video I think is very fascinating, using the medium of video to reveal some of the mercury function of an autistic person- the first part is in native language, the second part uses assistive technology to translate thoughts into english language:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JnylM1hI2jc

Beltane Blessings,
Gray
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Post by: Gray on May 01, 2013, 01:19 PM
Kristin,

I also want to send my best wishes to you, and hope for a full recovery.
love,
Gray
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Post by: Linda on May 01, 2013, 06:01 PM
Dear Kristin,

A beautiful green candle is lighting the way for your complete healing.

For you, an invocation requesting the Buddha's presence, sung by Deva Premal:

OM AH HUM VAJRA PADME SIDDHI HUM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK5gmTf_ez4

Sending Love

Linda
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Post by: Linda on May 01, 2013, 06:03 PM
Hi Rad,

Like the others, I am still working
on this assignment, and will probably
need another day or two. Thank you.

Love,

Linda
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Post by: mirta on May 01, 2013, 06:36 PM
Kristin,
I hope your health issues are not very serious and wish your complete recovery soon.
Until then I will miss your kind presence in our group and the learning that your analysis provide.
Blessings
Mirta
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Post by: mirta on May 01, 2013, 06:37 PM
Hi Rad and Group
I am still working, I will be able to post this weekend. Thanks so much
God Bless
Mirta
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Post by: Upasika on May 01, 2013, 08:18 PM
Hi Kristin,

As with everyone else, best wishes for healing, it'll be great when you can join us again.

blessings Upasika
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Post by: Kristin on May 02, 2013, 12:47 PM
Dear Rad and Friends..

This community is SO special..I feel the warmth of your generous hearts and it is a true healing.
It is an honor to walk with you all.

Thank you for the link Linda..Deva Premal is a favorite of mine, along with Snatum Kaur.
OM AH HUM VAJRA PADME SIDDHI HUM

PEACE,
Kristin

PS. Upasika, your last post on Dawin's Moon reminded me so much of Jeffrey's writings and teachings. There was such an ease and a depth in your delivery. You have taken this work all the way into your Soul. What incredible growth to witness. This growth is true for all of you.
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Post by: Upasika on May 02, 2013, 06:16 PM
Hi Kristin,

Thank you! Some days it certainly flows better than others though. And just as you say, it's seems everyone everywhere on the MB is growing in leaps and bounds, it's a real joy to be part of it all.

I just listened to Snatum Kaur for the first time - beautiful music. Hope you get better soon.

blessings Upasika
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Post by: Upasika on May 02, 2013, 09:16 PM
Hi Rad,

                                         Why is Mercury in Pisces in the 3rd house?

To summarise from various previous posts "¦ in the Soul's distant past lives it has invariably suffered from great hardship, loss of family and many desperate struggles to survive. To help cope with this it turned to orthodox religion, with a by-product of this being that the associated studying of religious texts and scriptures seeded an interest in the development of it's mind. Over many lives the Soul eventually started to thirst for a deeper more fulfilling religious experience, and it broke away on it's own individual quest, identifying in the process it's recently initialised mind as it's best resource to help it both for survival and individuation.

We know that since then the Soul has had an extended involvement in mental searching and development. As a result it has had it's eyes opened by the truth on many occasions, but in this process it has struggled to integrate it's truth with the societies in which it has lived due to a mixture of naivety, arrogance or the threat it's truth posed to these societies. We know that periodically the Soul retreated from this individual quest back into the safety of monasteries and other sheltered places, concealing it's light and hiding from society in general when it did so, also hiding from it's own wounds and refusing to deal with it's long term guilt and deepening self-worth crisis. Nevertheless, inevitably it would always pick itself up again at some point and venture forth again on it's mission.

But in more recent lifetimes all these conflicting realities started coming to a head. The skipped steps in the Soul's evolution began creating blockage, causing the Soul to abandon it's intentions, and try to haphazardly escape into various diverging experiences and directions, in order to bring some relief from the stagnation and frustration that had accumulated within itself.

Prolonged Stagnation - had developed as a result of the repressed trauma, pain and guilt related to all the hardships and family disasters experienced in distant times, and also as a result of the severely injured sense of self-worth which had occurred since then (Chiron in Aquarius 2nd square both - NN Moon and Uranus in Scorpio 11th, and SN Moon in Taurus 5th: meaning both Nodes, 5th & 11th houses, have been active before the current lifetime, as well as the 3rd & 9th houses).

Deep Frustration - due to the disruptions and delays to it's mental development in many past lives, as a result of it's on-going battles with society, combined with the endless need to find/provide the resources required to keep it's family and itself alive. Frustration with the conflict inherent in the Soul's continuing desires to individuate through developing it's mental faculties, contrasted with it's need for the kind of security and preservation that could only be fulfilled by having a family - with the inherently high demand for time and resources that always entailed (SN Pluto and SN Mercury conj Moon both in Capricorn 2nd; aspecting many planets in the 3rd - semisquare Mercury/Pluto, quintile Venus, semisextile Pallas; and SN Mercury square - NN Moon Scorpio 11th and Mars Libra 10th, and also SN Moon Taurus 5th).

At the core of these skipped steps was the deep need to start healing the trauma, to reverse the damage to it's self-esteem, and most importantly to finally bring these countless past lives of mental exploration and development (Pluto in the middle of an intensely packed 3rd house stellium) to some kind of culmination, fruition (Mercury balsamic phase Juno and Jupiter, and balsamic conj Ceres and Pluto - all in Pisces 3rd, all ruled by {and Pluto DS square to} {Sat balsamic conj} Neptune in the 12th) - through creating a completely new religious and social understanding (Pluto new conj Jupiter in Pisces 3rd) from it's ripe and now vast mental capacity.

And we also know that for many lives now frustration has arisen due to the inherently limiting mental views or constructions, "arrangements of fact", that the Soul has been crystallizing within itself, in it's on-going attempts to stabilise by creating pictures of reality it could feel secure in (Pluto in 3rd).


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It is from this point that the Soul has now incarnated again as Charles Darwin, and as has been extensively discussed, chose an Aquarius Sun and Capricorn Moon in balsamic semisextile in the 2nd house (along with the various aspects they form) in order to -  
focus, stabilise, anchor, and keep his feet on the ground;
to face his wounds rather than run away from them, to provide an enhanced ability to reflect so he could process lifetimes of emotional trauma and guilt, to provide an easy ability to focus on all his unfinished and incomplete business from a long series of lives, to be able to recreate many past life traumas in a contained way so healing and new choices regarding these could happen in the face of the old dynamics;
to give him balance between the old and new, set him on a path of emotional self-sufficiency, provide protection of the psyche from any more damage at the hands of the collective, and provide a link to the past egocentric structure and the residual religious security contained in it;
to reflect on the meaning of life in an eternal sense, on the nature of reality as a cosmic (ordered) whole and to gain access to an ability for psychic glimpses into this reality;
to keep tuned into his Soul-level goal on a daily emotional basis and to keep in touch with his resolution node and bring the full powers of his scientific abilities into play, to capitalise on all his past life mental striving and development and take it through to full fruition;
to provide objectivity, patience, fixity of purpose, insularity;  
to give him a traditionally acceptable personality with a natural ability to work with others engendering social security, and a desire to initiate and maintain many professional connections that would immensely enhance his chances of practical success in the world;
to lend him the necessary strength and determination, maturity, sensibility and patience that would be required, to doggedly plod on until he could touch and taste his salvation (PPP).

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In comprehending the significance of Mercury in Darwin's chart it will also be helpful to describe the mental context in which Darwin was born. This comes from Charles Darwin's own past (summarised above). Due to the way the Soul's mental experiences, strivings and development have occurred in it's journey through many past lives, it has expanded into all four major corners of the human mind. The Gemini aspect of the mind has been extensively involved in the Soul's past (Mercury balsamic conj Pluto 3rd), and likewise the Sagittarius aspect (Jupiter new conj Pluto). And with these three planets all being in Pisces, with their ruler in Sagittarius in the 12th Pisces is fully represented, and also Sagittarius is further referenced as well. The last remaining corner is Virgo, which the Soul has accessed in the past via the ruler of the SN Moon also ruling the 6th house, and PPP being in Virgo (and because of the squares to the Moon's nodal axis we know the Soul has been involved with the PPP before this life). Particularly the stellium in Pisces in the 3rd with Pluto at it's core -basically speaking, a conjunction involving Mercury, NN mercury, Pluto and Jupiter - Gemini, Sagittarius and Pisces arise intimately entwined from the past, and coming into this life of Darwin both core energetic components of the mind, Mercury and Jupiter, also arrive operating in tandem as one extended energy and function. If Mercury lights up, Jupiter is bound to spark in unison, and vice versa.

Additionally, Mercury is in a LQ sextile to the SN Moon. This means that at the beginning of the recent series of lives the Soul has been slowly sifting through all it's key main ideas, culling ones it no longer personally needed, and debating with itself about the rest - where did each of these ideas come from? whose idea originally was it, and whose voice was speaking the idea now? Ultimately - of what use to me is the idea, do I actually need and want it? And if I do want it, then from this point on, I'll make it mine. As this process has continued in these lives, gradually the Soul has revamped it's mental world, has created a better order and symmetry in it's mind so that it could contribute to the knowledge in the world from a new place of clarity (LQ), and with a new approach - one of cooperation (sextile). This process has involved the Soul looking at itself in the mirror of it's mind, and allowing itself to empty out a lot of content, so that the ideas that remained represented it's own essence much more clearly. The process has also brought the knowingness that the time was right for these ideas to reach the world, and now it was just a matter of waiting till the right conditions for that could be brought about.

So given all this, unlike the Sun and Moon, we can see that the Soul actually had very little choice as to the placement of Mercury in the chart for Darwin. As far as the Soul's left brain functioning is concerned the choices the Soul has made in the past have "locked the future in" a while ago now. The Soul has been ardently pursuing desires to find the truth (Jupiter/Neptune) for such a long time now that it has nearly exhausted it's ability to go much further down this track. It has already reached the point where soon it could become dangerously and dysfunctionally lopsided - through too much neglect of the body, emotions and other areas of the psyche. The stellium in the 3rd involving Pluto graphically displays this potential lop-sidedness. Also the fact one aspect of the resolution of the skipped steps involves bringing wounds from many past lives out into consciousness through the physical body itself, so at least they can be processed in some kind of fashion this way, additionally demonstrates that the Soul has pushed it's mental development to an extreme edge, given that mental development would often have been at the expense of attention to these other neglected areas (Mercury ruling the 7th and Pluto sesquiquadrating Mars in Libra, with Mars in mutual reception to Venus in the 3rd which then rules SN Moon, and SN Venus conj SN Mercury -  with 7th, Libra and Venus all relating to the potential for extremes).

So the logical mind (Mercury) was already in a closely culminating position relative to the Soul (Pluto), and since Pluto is in Pisces 3rd, so Mercury will be exactly posited there too as a balsamic conjunction to it, and secondly, in a slightly less constrained way to Jupiter as well. So that's Mercury's location - very predetermined.

And that the above is actually the case, is confirmed in a very concise way by Mercury being exactly conjunct it's own NN; showing there is no future defined - for Mercury to be reaching towards in this life. Mercury must penetrate (Mercury conj Pluto) inwards to perfect as much of itself as possible from what it ALREADY IS, to complete all it's unfinished business so it can culminate (Mercury balsamic Pluto and Jupiter). Thus Darwin would not have had a mind that kept readily wandering into the future on a regular basis, as the average mind so easily can, and often constantly does. Lacking the normal tension between past and future that all our energies usually have, Darwins's mind would have been, relatively speaking, an immense pool of mental energy in the present.

Also combined with this is the full Pisces influence on not only Mercury, but also other 3rd house planets - Ceres, Pluto, Juno and Jupiter, with the ruler of them all also being in the 12th.  This would have lent him a sense of the beauty in nature, an awareness of it's aesthetic quality, an appreciation of the sublime gracefulness of it, the poetic substance it's pictorial displays could often portray. So when this is combined with Mercury/3rd influence Darwin would have been someone who perceived nature not exactly with a sense of awe, but one of fascination, someone for whom the subject of their intellectual curiosity and questions was nothing less than a divine creation - but also a subject about which he would want to not only know everything, but also how it worked in great detail, and then finally what it all meant! (Mercury conj Pluto 3rd, ruler {Neptune} in Sag and the ruler of Neptune back in the 3rd "¦ with the PPP opposing Mercury and Pluto in the 9th).

Given Darwin's evolutionary stage (3rd individuated) this is a soul that has become attuned to the Whole (Pluto in Pisces), to a spiritual quest to find the truth of the visible Whole, and who underneath that is seeking answers to life itself - why life? (ruler Pluto in Sag 12th, NN Moon new conj Uranus in Scorpio) and who will naturally use the mind exclusively to look for these answers (Mercury conj Pluto conj Jupiter - all in 3rd, all opp PPP in Virgo 9th).

Inevitably Darwin would have contained a paradox within him. On the one hand all his Pisces/12th house factors would have meant he was very innocent, maybe to the point of being naïve in some ways, and very likely to have had a simple faith in the innate goodness of nature, of life, sensing in his heart and bones some general benevolence. He would certainly have been compassionate to some degree, and no doubt very creative and artistic. Yet on the other hand he would also have been a consummate intellectual, a soul in which questions would continuously arise, and inevitably scepticism as well - and so great faith would be sitting side by side with great doubt. While this soul's mind is of vast proportions in size and also in concern - it's interest is nothing less than the universal - it would be just as focussed on the smallest of details in it's environment. (Mercury BS phase Jupiter and bals conj Pluto Pisces 3rd).

Darwin would have had a wide and impartial curiosity in his environment (Merc balsamic phase to Jupiter in 3rd, trine Uranus conj NN Moon in 11th, Sun in Aquarius). Of course he would find many gaps and missing pieces in the mental jigsaw he was building. And this is where he came into his own - for one, he would have been a phenomenal observer. Because Mercury is exactly conjunct it's NN, both in Pisces, he would have been able to tune into whatever he was observing without his mind interfering, and simply observe - just watch - for long periods of time, almost becoming one with what he was observing in a timeless space (Mercury balsamic Pluto). Thus he would see many things that other people would miss, the tiniest of details for example, but also intrinsic patterns in whatever he was observing.

And where gaps appeared in his mental constructs many irresistible questions would arise in his mind about the gap, and what the answer might be. Mercury in the 3rd house creates a question generating machine - and with Mercury conj Pluto those questions would be deep and penetrating. And a lot of emotional security would have been invested in finding the answers to these questions, so the questions would have resonated deeply in his mind, and even his body. And because the NN Moon is in Scorpio ruled by Pluto back in the 3rd only the real answer would satisfy - anything else would be rejected. This means that Darwin's mind would have been forever processing on a subconscious and also unconscious level, never truly resting - a driven soul. But not necessarily an unhappy one. For the first time in many lifetimes the Soul has created a situation where it was possible to focus almost exclusively on the use of the mind for it's own sake - knowing that all necessary resources would be supplied as needed and that generally survival would not be of any concern. This was a "hallelujah" to Darwin (at least on a Soul level), although the feeling was probably never expressed very openly (Moon in Capricorn). So we have a happy soul on a huge mission - to understand the laws behind organic life on Earth. And in following this mission, Darwin is hoping lifetimes of previous endeavour will be brought to fruition - and in dramatic style (Leo on 9th house cusp).

What gives Darwin such a special mental capacity is the ability to handle complexity on a vast scale, to be able to pigeon-hole in his mind the widest collection of facts, and later to be able to see the patterns running through these facts, or recognise natural groupings within different lots of facts, and then the obvious unification of whole differing groups of facts into larger and larger wholes. But not only within one sphere - he'd be able to see how one whole realm was joined to another e.g. how an understanding in geology also shed light on a seemingly unrelated group of facts in biology, thus creating an even larger generalisation or overview of a situation (Mercury in 3rd trine Uranus in Scorpio in 11th, and balsamic to Jupiter). And with the 2nd house Sun in Aquarius, and Moon in Capricorn he had the patience needed to test all the facts where necessary, or to wait until he had got all the facts he needed in order for the natural meaning inherent in all the facts to reveal itself to him (Jupiter new conj Pluto) - for the simple truth to arise (PPP in Virgo 9th).

Darwin would have had an instinct for the truth (Venus in Aries new conj Jupiter 3rd, Venus in mutual reception with Mars), he would have also had flashes of intuition regarding it (Jup new conj Plu ruled by Nep in Sag), plus psychic glimpses of the truth as well (Pallas Aquarius 3rd new conj Mercury). It wouldn't have taken him too long to start sensing it for himself - he had many insights when on the Beagle and knew he was somehow looking at pieces of a big picture.

QuoteDarwin's theories eventually became more substantially formed, at least for himself, and he started to intuitively sense their integrity. But for two reasons he needed to be able to prove his theories to any number of other scientists - (one) to fully convince himself that he had in fact answered his own question, solved his own puzzle, and (two) so that he would have the social protection of the weight of numbers on his side, as he knew that his and thus his family's safety depended on it.

With Mercury FQ sesquiquadrate to Mars in the 10th he knew he must be careful of the social reaction to any radical ideas. He would have made an effort to analyse and gauge the openness and readiness of the scientific community at least, if not the public as well, to hear what he had to say (NN Moon new conj Uranus in Scorpio 11th, Pluto DS square to Saturn in 12th).

He knew in his bones he could take no chances, so he decided to prove everything from the ground up - to associate every statement he made with the evidence that proved it true. Thus ultimately for him "¦
Quoteproving the truth of nature required infinite instances and endless examples, plus exhaustive surveys of the whole field of nature in a thousand petty details - and by nature it was all piecemeal."

But he had learnt patience on the Beagle, and he applied it to the task. He had developed "a patient and painstaking method of inquiry based on uncompromised logical integrity" (3rd house Mercury/Pluto/Jupiter stellium, Mercury square Saturn). He succeeded in moving mountains with logical power, continuously labouring at collecting and then organising his vast accumulation of illustrative facts. For instance Darwin spent hours in noting the successive movements of the tendrils in a plant, or over a five year period watching the various habits and behaviours of earthworms in his flower-pots.

QuoteIn order to convince not only the greater scientific minds, but also the rank and file of scientific workers, plus the minds of various respected philosophers, and of generalists, he needed to bring together an imposing array of closely and highly organised facts, to make sure his logic in the foundation - and progressively in each succeeding layer of his overall argument - was rock solid before proceeding; a (very Virgo like) process of building a systematic mountain of knowledge backed up at each turn by irrefutable evidence (Saturn in Sag balsamic conj the ruler of the main 3rd house stellium). So at each juncture of his logic, at the interface between each conclusion he would draw from a collection of evidences and the next conclusion from the next collection of evidences he would then attach to that, he had to anticipate every conceivable argument a third party could have at that point, and formulate beforehand (and also be thoroughly familiar with) completely logical and also ultimately practically satisfying answers to all these possible objections.

As described here, and as we have seen via his mental signatures, Darwin had become an intellectual giant.

It is at this point that some of the Soul's more restrictive karma has been dissolved, involving the deep need the Soul had developed for personal emotional security based on attachment to a limited set of facts i.e. to fixed ideas (Pluto in 3rd, Mercury conj Pluto). Emotional attachment to certain pre-existing beliefs has been the basis for so many of the Soul's confrontations in society over so many past lives, which has ended up creating a great deal of mental frustration, boredom and eventual stagnation, and an excessive build-up of restlessness and need within the Soul for mental progress and resolution. This need, combined with the hard-won clarity that outright confrontation always ends up being counter-productive, meant Darwin absolutely knew he had to find the objective reality (NN Moon conj Uranus in 11th) and that no pre-existing belief, either his or another's, was of any value to him unless it could be objectively proven to be true (Sun in Aquarius 2nd). Both his and his family's lives depended on it (Moon in 2nd). And with such a potent motivation to go beyond his own mental limitations, his own emotional boundaries, in an open and objective investigation into the unknown (resolution Node - NN in Scorpio in 11th), he bit by bit (PPP in Virgo) dissolved his karmic attachments to his personal truth, and opened the door to a new level of emotional and mental freedom (PPP in 9th).

With Mercury in the 3rd Darwin would have been a natural communicator, and he did communicate constantly via letters with many people - his scientific friends and colleagues, scientists in other countries, his sisters, and his own wife and children. His communication had a kind of poetic conversational style decorated with a slightly dry wit, and also often laced with irony (Mercury trine Uranus).

He was also not in fact a great analyser as such - Mercury being in Pisces such deductive reasoning did not come naturally, and he wasn't particularly interested in it. He liked to bring simple order to details so he could apprehend the inner pattern within them in a single glance rather than mince them up into something they may or may not be. So while his mind was incredibly potent, he had learnt to keep the millions of things within it simple and intact (6th house cusp and SN Moon in Taurus, ruler Venus in Aries in 3rd), having also learnt, over a period of time, to trust that his intuition would provide him any relevant meaning he needed from a set of data or a situation (Mercury bals Jupiter, PPP in 9th). That's not to say Darwin wouldn't have used analysis at all - he would have. With Taurus on his 6th house the process of analysis for him would have been a grounding one, using it as a sorting facility deciding which arguments warranted effort to develop and which could be shelved for later or abandoned, which arguments were liable to be attacked and would need a bulletproof defence "¦ what he needed to consider in order to be more mentally self-reliant, more mentally self-contained. Additionally with the PPP in Virgo in 9th he would have able to comprehend how various concepts whose meanings were intricately interwoven together reflected one central principle, how on a practical level that there was always unity in diversity,  

Mercury in Pisces in FQ square to Saturn in Sag in the 12th would mean that Darwin may have been a somewhat slow learner, at least in subjects that he wasn't passionate about. This would have due to the Pisces/Sag influence which tends to promote right brained perception, and also because he would have been very much needing to focus on what did actually interest him, in order that he could establish mental goals that were relevant to him as part of his life's mission - culminating lifetimes of individuation through mental development.

Mercury is also in FQ square to Neptune in Sag in the 12th, and this would have meant a portion of all the questions that poured into Darwin's mind would have been around the issue of what is God? who is God? or is there God? Darwin would have had no choice but to think about these questions (FQ), even though he would probably not have felt that the answers could directly affect his life as such, it was the resolution of the unknown he was after, and like all scientists he fully believed that resolution of the unknown was desirable and also possible. And due to all his Pisces planets being ruled by Neptune in 12th but also squaring Saturn balsamic conj Neptune in 12th he no doubt inherited from his past lives reasonably conservative religious conditioning that he needed to think about, now make his mind up concerning his mental position. He was therefore born into a non-conformist environment, and later married an unconventional and thinking Christian. And despite his own conservative religious conditioning being very real, Darwin also knew that any God worth it's salt needed to stand up to his logic. For Darwin, logic had proved itself to him time and time again, and he knew he could rely on it. And so he allowed his logic to gradually challenge his own religious beliefs, and as a result his belief in a God ever so gradually completely faded. There were some distinct turning points in this process, but those can be dealt with in another post.

Summary
Darwin has been working directly with Mercury as a central resource with which to individuate over many, many lives. Consequently his left brained logical mind is extremely highly developed, and along the way has also been integrated with his right brained intuition. Thus it is difficult to describe Mercury's role in the life separate to the role of Jupiter. The underlying desire that brings these two aspects of the mind together is a deep longing to find the truth about life as it is experienced in form (Sat/Nep in Sag 12th), not just a personal truth (Pluto in 3rd) or a non-personal but partial truth (PPP in 9th), but the whole truth (Neptune in Sag 12th), to return to Source itself (Pluto in Pisces, ruler of PPP in Pisces). Long ago the Soul identified the mind, initially Mercury, then at a later stage Jupiter too, as the means to individuate towards that truth, and so that is what it has done. However it's time for using Mercury as a means to individuate, as it's pathway, is practically at the end (Mercury bals conj Pluto, Mercury conj it's NN). Therefore the Soul has created a critical lifetime in which everything necessary to culminate the long history of left-brained Mercury effort is available. All that was left to do was for the personality, Darwin, to use his free will wisely, in accordance with his creative purpose (Sun), and make the most of what had thus been provided. And that's exactly what Darwin did, and we all know the result - fruition on a grand scale.

blessings Upasika
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Post by: Rad on May 03, 2013, 10:19 AM
Hi Upasika,

This is simply brilliant and stunning EA work relative to why Darwin chose, or as you put it his Soul had no real choice, to have his Mercury in the 3rd House/ Pisces. That 'choice' was simply a 'logical consequence' of all that had come before in the evolutionary journey of Darwin's Soul. Your EA analysis is a deep as it is comprehensive in tying together all the various Soul dynamics in such a way as to convey the vastness of his Mercury mind: of how it worked and why. His ongoing quest to understand, inductively, the natural laws that are the causative factors in the manifested organic Creation is indeed the very essence of the mind that Darwin had. It would not be a stretch to ponder that in the next and immediate lives of the Soul of Darwin that it would focus on what the natural laws of Consciousness itself are since existing empirical science can not account for, or explain, what those laws are and, indeed, what consciousness actually is: consciousness within the organic manifestation of Creation itself.

Your EA work is breathtaking Upasika. This is how EA is meant to be done. In doing it in the way that you are you are helping many others understand exactly that.

Bravo !

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Upasika on May 03, 2013, 10:46 PM
Hi Rad,

This is such a valuable opportunity you are providing us all, to learn and grow, and I appreciate it greatly, as I'm sure everyone else does too. So thank you very much.

... and I can relate to what Gonzalo is talking about - with all the interwoven and repeating themes, it can take quite a while getting it all down on paper. But really worthwhile doing though.

blessings Upasika
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Post by: Rad on May 04, 2013, 10:01 AM
Hi Upasika and Gonzalo,

Wolf intended in this Planetary Method to in fact help the EA person see and understand the repeating themes/ archetypes in the birth chart. And even though going through in a very methodical / Virgo like way this planetary method does just that. And, yes, it can be very tedious in a way yet at the same time helps many organize the birth chart in a necessary way that allows the core dynamics/ archetypes to be understood. So even though we start with the core EA paradigm which symbolizes the core of the Soul's evolution from life to life by way of understanding the core archetypes that reflect that the addition of the planetary method then allows an adding on in an organized way of the other core/ repeating archetypes that, in combination, creates a total picture of the Soul.

And, Gonzalo, just try to focus on the core archetypes within the totality of the vastness of Darwin's 3rd House, his Mercury signature within this. Not every little detail needs to be developed: just the core archetypes presented/ understood in the organized way that the planetary method promotes.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: mirta on May 04, 2013, 12:50 PM
Hi Rad and Group

Some observations about Darwin's Mercury:
Within the Soul's purpose of knowing Reality and Sun's purpose of a revolution in values Mercury ruling the PPP suggests that the way of thinking and communicating is crucial to the evolutionary intention.
Within it the Soul intended to develop plasticity and creativity in thought; seeking a thought divergent from established reasoning, able to dissolve the barriers to opening new orientations.
PPP is in 9th house ruled by Mercury, which is ruled by Neptune in Sag; the soul's evolutionary intention was ordering and organizing his thoughts in a philosophical way aligned with Natural Law and cosmic knowledge.
"Philosophy . . .  is the discipline that consists in creating concepts" (Gilles Deleuze). Darwin's Mercury was focused on observing natural phenomena in order to find the underlying causes (conjunct Pluto, trine Uranus in Scorpio) and to communicate them by creating new concepts as Natural Selection, the very innovative concept he introduced. Creating concepts is actually a Jupiter function, especially in his case with Jupiter NP conjunct Pluto, but being in balsamic conjunction there is an interrelation that goes in complementary directions; then these new concepts become the foundation of a new intellectual framework (Mercury) while observation and data collecting has also the function of verifying and communicating in order to change collective thought.

Mercury in Pisces in 3rd house balsamic conjunct Pluto is the instrument used by the evolutionary need to look in the empirical world for information concerning Ultimate reality and to express it in linear thinking with its inherent capacity to penetrate to the bottom line of any intellectual process. The Soul observes, interprets and expresses empirical phenomena with sight on the ultimate sense, and then analyzes it in order to discover the natural law behind them.(PPP in Virgo in 9th house, Mercury trine Uranus and NN in 11th house Scorpio,  Neptune in Sag in 12th house balsamic Saturn).
Although Darwin's realizations were based in his capacity to learning from others and synthesize information from many fields of knowledge, the Source that was the alpha is also the omega that attracts the Soul's search for whole truth as well as the need to organize thoughts in a way that makes possible others to understand. 
Communicating to the world what the Soul had known and discovered in prior lifetimes synthesized with contemporary discovering is a central theme, purpose of Mercury and Pluto in 3rd house. The creative purpose of a linear thought aligned with the Source has now attained a productive point and the Soul is able to fulfill its social role communicating it and initiating a shift in the scientific paradigm. (Mercury LQP sextile SN)
Paradigm shift, I believe, has to be discussed in Jupiter's analysis.

With Mercury in Pisces linear (?) thinking is creative, metaphorical and abductive.
The Tree of Life - only illustration in The Origin of Species, a picture of a family tree or descent, also called phylogeny - reflects that. With it Darwin sought to explain a new concept in science: how various species of biology fit together to explain the origins and evolution of species. Instead of a static and hierarchical ladder as a metaphor for understanding the cluster pattern of biodiversity, Darwin pictured a tree, dynamic, not linear and with many elements that spread out in different directions.
It is an analogy of how his Mercury put things together.

Eagerly exploring different environments with curiosity, seeking variety and diversity, collecting and describing a vast number of specimens, he came to see species in a different way. Darwin did not focus on the sameness of individuals; rather, he thought it was important that individuals vary in spite of the fact that they belong to the same species, realizing that the variations could become the raw material for evolutionary change. (Mercury in 3rd house conjunct Pluto trine NN in Scorpio in 11th house)
He had the courage to think different, to put data together in a different way, assuming "The task . . . [of]  not so much . . . see what no one yet has seen, but to think what nobody yet has thought about that which everyone sees."  (Schopenhauer) (Mercury in Pisces in 3rd house trine Uranus in 11th house in Scorpio).
Putting data together in a new way allowed introducing the initiation of a paradigm shift in the collective consciousness (Mercury trine Uranus conjunct NN in 11th house in Scorpio)

Hovering atttention
Pisces allows the mind, even the left brain's hemisphere, to observe in a sort of "evenly suspended attention" or "evenly hovering attention" as Freud named it, which "consists simply in not directing one's notice to anything in particular and in maintaining the same 'evenly-suspended attention' in the face of all. . ." that one  sees.
"It remains an essential rule invariably to leave out of account the ostensible continuity . . ." It is necessary give no a priori importance to any aspect of the observation suspending the cultural, paradigmatic motives which usually direct his attention  ". . . and give himself over completely to his 'unconscious memory'" (Mercury trine Uranus).
Giving equal attention to all that is seen allows to not lose the least clue even it  seems illogical or irrelevant; in consequence attention must remain diffuse, not focused, not directed by a previous intentionality. It's paradoxical; the mind is directed without anything particular to attend, concentrating in all at the same time, which means some dispersion. That's how Darwin would think.
Even relying on the evolution of its knowledge, (Mercury balsamic to Jupiter and Pluto, Mercury balsamic Vesta in 4th house, balsamic SN Pallas in 3rd house Pisces), the mind lets go of all prior knowledge (collective above all) and remains available and open to the new. (Jupiter NP Pluto, Mercury FQP square Saturn conj Neptune, novile SN Mercury conjunct NN Mercury in Pisces, NP conjunct Sophia, Metis and SN Sophia)
In Chinese culture availability is in the beginning of savior's behavior, is previous to all virtues. Keeping all in equality allows to have access to the undifferentiated bottom of the Tao, from which emerge all differences and thus the savior can perceive and accept the less difference when it appears without reducing it or let it pass.

The soul's intellectual origins gave it a solid thought built by means of a fixed concentrated focus that made possible what JWG called the Scorpio "eagle's eye" now expanded with a hovering attention.
SN Mercury in Cap in 2nd house (conjunct SN Saturn, Pluto and Vesta) reflects that the soul had internalized a linear thinking structured according the consensual scientific paradigm and its conceptual boundaries. Reasoning had a much centered focus and was determined by time and space reality.
In the last lifetimes the soul began changing this approach as reflected in SN ruler Venus in Aries in 3rd house, ruled by Mars square Mercury's SN and inconjunct NN and Uranus in Scorpio (the eagle's eye).
However, as we have already discussed here, the Soul faced opposition and persecutions because of that.
Now Mercury NP novile its SN reflects that the Soul is in a gestation process of finding new perceptions and intellectual forms in his search for Truth and that the individual is ready to dare the new, overcoming old frustrations and facing threats to his security, aware of the karmic and evolutionary entire process and of what he must do to create the new reality that actualizes the evolutionary intent. (Mercury FQP trine NN conjunct Uranus)

This process was possible by means of an interrelation between left and right brain hemispheres. Indeed Mercury is balsamic Jupiter, sharing a stellium in the same sign and house, picking up in a common origin (SN in the same sign), Mercury's NN is in Jupiter's traditional sign and NN Jupiter is in 29.43 Gemini conjunct NN Vesta. Looking at the chart, Pluto between both suggests the Soul positioned in the corpus callosum, and this is a crucial piece of the evolutionary purpose and the whole evolution of the Soul.

Thanks so much Rad for this opportunity
God Bless
Mirta


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Post by: Linda on May 05, 2013, 12:39 AM
Darwin's Mercury

The Soul's core intention in past lives was to develop mental powers and intellectual abilities to logically order its existence so that it could philosophically understand the fundamental truths behind the diversity of phenomenal reality.  The evolutionary intention was to synthesize a vast array of information and ideas (Mercury) that had served as an empirical way of organizing its reality over many lifetimes, synthesize conflicting truths and the ideas that they created, liberate from obsolete material of a consensus nature, establish and make real his own intellectual structure, develop his own unique language structure that would convey the limited amount of total truth inductively sensed, and communicate that understanding to the world in order to benefit the collective of Souls.

With no retrograde planets, Uranus ruling the 3rd house, and a North Node in the 11th house conjunct Uranus, the Soul was poised and ready to culminate information that had been collected and stored as memories in order to liberate it from consensus thinking patterns, and reveal revolutionary timeless information, internally realized, that would have an evolutionary effect upon the Soul and a cataclysmic effect upon the world (Mercury ruled by Neptune Sagittarius 12th).   

The mutable archetype is very strong in the chart with 5 mutable planets (Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, Pluto) in 2 mutable houses (3rd and 12th).  The Mercury signature - Mercury Pisces 3rd - correlates to mutability, adaptability, flexibility and ingenuity.  Mercury is logical, rational, curious, nervous, finely tuned, communicative, ever changing and ever learning;  in the sign of Pisces a natural psychological purity, imaginative, divinely inspired, mystical, impressionistic, sensitive, receptive, deep thinker, and able to pick up on subtleties that others cannot;  in the 1st decan of Pisces double-emphasis on mystical and psychic;  in the 3rd house an ability to absorb information and knowledge inductively much like a sponge absorbing a river of information. 

Inductive thought correlates to Pisces and Jupiter and deductive thought to Virgo and Mercury.  Mercury in the intercepted 3rd house, Mercury conjunct Pluto, Mercury ruled by Neptune, Mercury ruling the 9th house, Mercury ruling the PPP, Uranus ruling the 3rd house, and Uranus and Neptune being heavily aspected indicates these archetypes were thoroughly developed prior to the current life.  The repeating themes attributed to the substantial quantity of the mutable archetype indicates the Soul had already learned how to intellectually understand reality, verity and truth. 

With Mercury ruled by Neptune, a culmination of old ideas was taking place through a process of disillusionment and discarding of untruths (scientific, psychological and religious) so that more of the whole truth could be revealed.  With ruler of 3rd house, Uranus in Scorpio conjunct the North Node, the past life obsessive collection of facts and data reflected a "time has come" in the current life for highly accelerated evolution. Layers of repeating messages stored as memories would suddenly bring penetrating insights to life, thereby evolving the Soul.  With Venus ruling the 11th house (and SN) much of the past life information needed to re-manifest in order that the Soul could actually liberate from it:   reformulating the past in the face of the past (Pluto ruling North Node).   

The crisis in action generated by Mercury-Pluto (3rd) square Saturn-Neptune (12th) caused the Soul to come up against the brick wall of others' opinions, ideas or philosophies as his weak boundaries were tested.  To push through the square he needed to go beyond the structure, boundaries and form of Saturn which had generated individual/collective patterns of guilt, fear and confusion crystallized in his thought patterns.  Through these stressful confrontations (internal and external) came the realization that any idea not internally comprehended was not truly known or understood by him.  Therefore the conflict with others was necessary so that Darwin's new perspectives, his own knowledge of his own opinions, could emerge.  Whatever part of his intellectual system that was internally realized by him (not borrowed from others) was then able to be established in the world (PPP) through the unique language structure that he had developed.

Darwin's revolutionary work served to awaken the unconscious memories through a stream of insight and revelation (Mercury trine Uranus).  The mind could easily discard unwanted information, liberate and de-condition from limited structural consensus dynamics/perspectives.  This colossal amount of accelerated evolution would radically change the structure of the Soul forever (Uranus conj North Node) ensuring movement through the 3rd stage Individuated and into Spiritual.  Through the action of the trine, Darwin's thought processes occurred more spontaneously, intuitively, and were less the result of premeditated thought.  This allowed a natural sifting of plausible information from unsubstantiated ideas.  However, as a natural scientist, Darwin had an innate capacity to understand the details of anything independent of subjective interpretation.  This capacity allowed his scientific efforts to be validated through observation and correlation. 

With Uranus (higher octave of Mercury) trine Pluto, Darwin persistently tried to find the bottom-line taking him deeper and deeper into the layers of the individuated unconscious.  Pondering upon the nature of things was carried forward into the current life, the repetitive nature of messages (or information) correlating to Uranus.  In this way a natural process took place:  collection - selection - revelation - fruition.  Evolution usually proceeded in an easy and steady manner, however with a considerable amount of "fixed" energies operating, the only way past the resistive structures of the Soul was to generate shock and trauma that would act as a release mechanism of obsolete elements. 

With Mercury's balsamic conjunction with Pluto, the Soul is completing an entire evolutionary cycle.  It carries an impulse to transcend and dissolve all the knowledge and information that had come before in preparation for the new cycle.  However, the conjunction at an orb of 4 degrees meant there were still loose ends to be tied and the evolutionary purpose to be fulfilled.  Herein lies the answer to Why this Mercury?  Darwin's Mercury would become the vehicle by which the timeless would be consciously sensed through his thoughts and perceptions, thus igniting new perspectives that would have the effect of opening our eyes to the reality of our world.  Rigorously tested and validated evidence included in his masterpiece would change our world forever. 
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Post by: Rad on May 05, 2013, 10:00 AM
Hi Mirta,

Thanks for making the effort you have to do the EA of why Darwin chose to have his Mercury in the house and sign that he did relative to the entire paradigm of his Mercury, 3rd House, and polarity point of Pluto's signature. You have done an excellent job capturing the very essence of this why in a very succinct way defined by a solid EA reasoning. In essence you have understood that at once his mind was defined by a inductive process of natural reasoning relative to his observations that then allowed, via the 'eagle's eye', to focus on the particular but only as it relates to the whole of the design that is the essence of this inductive process.  

Excellent job Mirta. This is how EA is meant to be done and, because of this, you are helping others understand EA itself.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Rad on May 05, 2013, 10:13 AM
Hi Linda,

Thanks for taking the time that you have to explain the why and how of Darwin's mind, of how and why the totality of the Mercury archetype manifested in his life. Your EA reasoning for the succinct and profoundly accurate understanding of his Mercury function, in total, is simply excellent EA work. This is how EA is meant to be done and, because of that, you are helping others understand what EA is, and how it is meant to be applied in life.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Gray on May 06, 2013, 03:02 AM
Hello Rad and Group,

I have had some personal difficulties making enough time to do the type of research and thought in the manner in which I hoped concerning Mercury and Darwin (I can relate to Gonzalo's comments only in my ideals, not so much in actual time put in!), but thought I should post what I have at this point since most people have posted.  Rad, thank you for this piece on Mercury- it is so fascinating to me, and very helpful on a personal level as I have a Scorpio Uranus trine a Pisces Mercury in my chart and I feel a whole new level of thought has opened up for me concerning this thanks to this work.  Here goes:

Charles Darwin was born with a Pisces Mercury in his third house, correlating with the need of his consciousness to give order to the phenomenal nature of reality and to organize in his mind the many connections he could observe and study in the world that lead to an ultimate understanding of creation itself.  Darwin had a deep soul connection to this quest for understanding, as he was born with a balsamic conjunction of Mercury with Ceres and Pluto in his third house.  Moreover, the ruler of his Mercury is a Sagitarius Neptune that is in his 12th House that has Saturn in balsamic conjunction to it, and the ruler of his Neptune is a Pisces Jupiter that is also in his third house.  Darwin's personality in this incarnation would have to sense the heavy weight of so much soul history wrapped up in pursuit of this ultimate understanding- these birth signatures are just too intense to indicate anything less than an obsessive soul desire his personality would feel incapable of stopping from pursuing additional knowledge and finding avenues and channels of communication to express it through.


When we consider the house rulerships, we see that Aquarius rules his third house, connecting it with his Aquarian Sun soul purpose to help throw off societal conditioning of the past and help him objectify the nature of reality outside the judgements and crystallized perception of the status quo and consensus authorities such as religious authorities.  Being Aquarius, his third house cusp is thus ruled by his Scorpio Uranus in his 11th House that is conjunct the North Node of his Moon, making this desire to organize the phenomenal nature of reality incredibly deep and probing in a way that is willing to move beyond intellectual taboos and limitations of thought, and making this desire to transform the consensus perception and understanding of phenomenal reality a part of his own deep evolutionary soul work.  The mental function of organizing information and knowledge regarding the nature of phenomenal reality is deep soul work for Darwin this lifetime-  especially since Aquarius is on the cusp of the third house, and his soul purpose is reflected in his Aquarius Sun in his second house, and that the ruler of his third house cusp is Scorpio Uranus conjunct his North Node.  This is somewhat challenging and pushes him out of his comfort zone of past beliefs and organizational structuring of phenomenal reality, a lot of which was conditioned as we can see by him having a Capricorn Moon in the second house that is also conjunct the South Node of his Mercury.  With Pisces Jupiter being the ruler of his Mercury ruler Neptune, and being in the third house, he is meant to stretch and expand the foundation and basis of the way he is mentally organizing information concerning the ultimate nature of phenomenal reality, developing more of an inductive approach rooted in metaphors and conceptual understanding.  Although still relying on a deductive and linear approach, as seen in his Mercury being in his third house, since he was born with Mercury in Pisces, it also brings in the challenge of him integrating a more conceptual inductive approach into his detailed, linearly framed research process.  This call to synthesize deductive and inductive approaches in his research is a central conflict in his soul's incarnation as Charles Darwin.  This can further be seen through the North Node of his Mercury being conjunct his Natal Pisces Mercury in his third house.


In contrast, with the South Node of his Mercury being conjunct his Capricorn Moon in his second house, there is a strong crystallization of thought inherent in his Mercury perception even though he is meant to liberate from it and expand his conceptual framework this lifetime.  Indeed, these past life perceptual patterns can be felt in every moment of his Capricorn Moon's constant response to his environment- as we have spoken about, however, with Pisces Mercury balsamic conjunct Pluto, which rules a Scorpio Uranus that is conjunct the North Node of his Moon, ultimately Darwin is meant to shatter the crystallized form of these past life Mercury functions.  The inherent conflict this brings up in his human form and perceptual patterns is intense however, even more so since Taurus rules his 6th House, meaning that his Aries Venus that is at the very end of his third house is not only the ruler of his South Node of the Moon, but also correlates with how his intellect rationalizes and analyzes aspects of phenomenal reality.  Aries Venus being at the very end of his third house, conjunct his IC and fourth house cusp, makes this yet another sign of this incarnation being of one of intellectual culmination, a lifetime in which he is culminating the intellectual pursuits, challenges, and confrontations of lifetimes after lifetimes of deep soul work.  His 6th House cusp being in Taurus means that his rationalizations take root from within a strong sense of internal values, as this is further intensified by his Capricorn Moon being in his second house as well as his Aquarius Chiron, Aquarius Sun, and the stellium of South Nodes of planets and asteroids.  While on the one hand he has an evolutionary intention to objectify and throw off the past conditioning influencing his value system, at the same time he is heavily influenced by it, and so issues such as his Aquarius Chiron wounding around survivor issues ends up being a major influence on the way he analyzes his data and research, and rationalizes his conclusions.  As a result, it is not surprising that he became fixated on linking evolution with a concept of natural selection driven through sexual selection.  For example, whereas his contemporary developer of natural selection, Alfred Wallace, placed importance on atmospheric pressure and adaptation to local environments, one place they diverged from shared philosophy can be see when Darwin argued with him by placing greater importance on sexual selection.  In fact, it seemed Darwin saw sexual selection as an explanation for just about everything- even in cases where points Wallace made about the development of a certain color in a species evolving through an adaptation to a local environment rather than a by-product of sexual selection made logical sense.  Sexual selection, as well as the other obsessive tenet he clung to in his analysis of evidence, competition amongst members of the same species, both connect to Darwin's timeless and ancient survivor issues of his second house.


The fact that the ruler of Darwin's 6th House is in Aries, however, brings in a different energy to his analytical mindset- Aries Venus makes his a dynamic thinker who is able to individuate his mindset and perceptions away from consensus thought and influences and connect it more strongly with his own intuitive sense.  This rationalizing functioning of his mental abilities is more of Darwin's comfort zone, as the South Node of his Moon is also in the sign of Taurus.  He is well accustomed to analyzing data and research, and rationalizing possible theories of meaning.  However, because of the signs in his birth chart indicating past societal conditioning of his root value system, and with the ruler of his sixth house cusp being Venus in Aries at the root of his birth chart, a soul level challenge for him this incarnation is throwing off these previous belief systems that influence how he perceives and analyzes his research and scientific experimentation.  This is especially intense in his case as the South Node of his Mercury is conjunct his Capricorn Moon, as well as the South Nodes of his Saturn, Venus, and Vesta. Sometimes scientists like to believe they are "objective" and practicing an "objective" practice of cause, effect, and correlation, but in reality everyone has subjective perceptions that influence their mental analysis, including scientists.  Darwin has a soul purpose of objectifying how he is influenced by societal conditioning and opening up his frame of reference he analyzes research from in this incarnation, taking in a more expansive, abstract, and conceptual frame of reference.  This is truly a destined evolution of consciousness for Darwin this lifetime, as the North Node of his Mercury is in Pisces and conjunct his natal Pisces Mercury, both of which are in balsamic conjunction to his Pisces Pluto and Ceres.  This strong Pisces energy in connection with his Mercury function is there to help him dissolve the thought patterns of past incarnations that are ultimately limiting for his soul's journey.


Pisces Mercury is not the easiest Mercury to have when trying to create logical arguments and a rational explanation of evidence that can clearly connect challenging intellectual theories that confront establishments of consensus thought, such as beliefs connected with the dominant Christian church establishment.  Mercury in Pisces can have difficulty choosing words that are capable of embodying the whole of its perceptual abilities, especially when a Mercury is in Pisces and in trine to a Uranus in Scorpio like Darwin had.  This Mercury-Uranus trine would give him lightning insight and sudden illumination of thought that he would have difficulty bringing down into traditional language structure at times-  at best he would only be able to capture a fraction of his perception with his words.  However, since Darwin has his Pisces Mercury in his third house, this would give him a greater ability to communicate his understanding in language that could be understood by others, and eventually over time, in part aided by his exhaustive and extensive research, he would gain more confidence in his ability to capture his illuminating insights into language that could be understood by a mass audience in the scientific community and beyond.  In addition, since Mercury is in balsamic conjunction to Pluto in Pisces in his third house, this desire to organize an ultimate understanding of phenomenal reality and then communicate this knowledge to the world at large is connected with a deep soul history- so in other words, he has been working on this issue in past incarnations, making it ultimately less of a struggle, but in process and in the midst of experiencing difficulties with communication issues, it would make the experience painful on a personality level, as the difficulties would trigger deep soul memories of challenges and even trauma connected with communication.  With Pisces Mercury as well as the North Node of his Mercury also conjunct Ceres in Pisces along with Pluto, he would have his own nurturing of self issues connected with this research, and would have an obsessive drive to complete his research, even possess his research, so much so that it would take some traumatic events and deaths, to close family members and loved ones, to force him to let go of his intellectual pursuits at times.  This is another aspect of the dissolving of limiting thought patterns symbolized by the strong connection of his Mercury function with Pisces.


As we have discussed previously, having a Moon in Capricorn could be a help in his ability to perceive ways of communicating his developing knowledge to consensus culture in theory, yet since it is ruled by a Sagitarius Saturn that is square his Pisces Mercury, it could also be another sign of deep soul trauma related to an inability to communicate his understanding to the world in an influential manner.  This issue is further intensified by his Pisces Mercury being ruled by a Sagitarius Neptune that is in balsamic conjunction to Saturn in his 12th House, and also in square to his Mercury.  These challenges in communication are incredibly intense on a soul level to Darwin, as symbolized by his Pisces Mercury being in balsamic conjunction to Ceres and Pluto.  He is utterly attached to his scientific experiments and theorizing through intense soul desires to develop an ultimate understanding for the connection of everything and the ultimate understanding of creation and phenomenal reality.  While the connection with Ceres and Pluto also connects with emotional attachments to his children and loved ones, the Virgo aspect of the Ceres archetype is especially prominent in his chart with regards to being obsessed with productivity in the intellectual realm.  As a result, having a Pisces Jupiter was a true blessing for Darwin, especially a Pisces Jupiter in his third house, a Pisces Jupiter that is the ruler of his Sagitarius Neptune.  Related to the ambitions of his Capricorn Moon, and his past lives obsessive desire to develop a new intellectual framework organizing ultimate understanding of reality and creation, having a Pisces Jupiter in his third house helped him overcome his communication issues in order to develop a vast network of research facilities and support that allowed him to accumulate an inexhaustive body of work and scientific evidence in support of his theories.

Moreover, Darwin's Pisces Jupiter being in his third house would lend extra strength to the calling of his Mercury and North Node of Mercury being in Pisces in the third house.  Darwin was meant to have a strong Jupiterian or "right brain" approach to thinking, an inductive analytical ability that could link countless strands and fragments of diverse research into a holistic understanding tied into a strongly developed conceptual philosophy, such as natural selection as the organizing principle of his research.  The trine between Scorpio Uranus and Pisces Mercury is also a help, with Scorpio Uranus being in the 11th House, Darwin was repeatedly able to individuate illuminating conceptual thought, as well as connect with liberated intellectual communities of support for his work.  There is also a new phase semi-sextile between Darwin's Aquarius Chiron and his Pisces Mercury, corresponding with the new identity Darwin developed for himself out of connection to his deep Chironic soul wounds this lifetime, an empowering identity that would forge forward and not hide due to wounding, and an ability to use his Pisces Mercury as a guide to help him focus on and discover connections that will reveal the new purpose of his evolution in consciousness this lifetime.

Another important aspect to his Pisces Mercury is an almost gibbous sesquiquadrate from his Libra Mars in his 10th House.  This in part relates to his career ambitions and desire to have an important public role in connection with his Mercury pursuits, and how he could come across resistance from the needs of his social environment, including his role as a father and the influence of his own father (10th House).  First, Darwin had to overcome the influence of his own father on his studies, at first going along with some of his father's hopes for his intellectual development as far as enrolling in certain schools or fields of study, but never fully engaging his Pisces Mercury until he was focused upon his own deep mental soul work.  In addition, through his own role as father, he had to refrain from going deeper into research or pursuing certain goals related to a public image at times because of needing to tend to his own children, especially the illness of his own children at times.  In connection with his Pisces, third house, Mercury work this lifetime, this Libra Mars sesquiquadrate also reflects his need to refine his research, analysis, and explanation of findings in order to fit it into a conceptual framework that could be expressed into the existing social environment and context of his life and culture.

Finally, I wonder about the impact of his Saturn-Neptune conjunction in Sagitarius being square to his Pisces Mercury.  It seems like yet another symbol of past conditioning to break free from, similar to the South Node of his Mercury being conjunct his Capricorn Moon being a sign of past life conditioning constantly entering into the field of his perceptual awareness.  I was reading about how Alfred Wallace began diverging from natural selection into some more spiritualist exploration of the evolution of human consciousness, such as that natural selection could not account for higher human mental faculties such as mathematical, artistic, or musical genius, and that there could be a purpose to the universe that involved the evolution of the human spirit and consciousness- apparently, these ideas disturbed Darwin, and he maintained that sexual selection explained mental phenomena as well.  I do not here mean to argue one way or the other, only that it seems Darwin was more prone to focus on sexuality as a causative force more so than spiritual concepts.  I wonder if this stems from some deep wounds related to organized religion, including lives in which he was a power player in organized religion as well as on the receiving end of trauma from organized religion- so much so that in his intellectual theorizing he had difficulty consciously integrating a spiritual element.  With his strong second house, South Node of the Moon in Taurus, and sixth house ruled by Taurus, he was much more comfortable tying his conceptual understanding into issues of sexuality, connecting his theories of evolution to survival pressure of species competing with one another for resources and mates.

with gratitude and love,
Gray
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on May 06, 2013, 10:26 AM
Hi Gray,

Thanks for taking the time that you have to do the EA work of why Darwin chose the Mercury placement, in total, that you have. Your EA analysis is as excellent as it is brilliant in terms of the interaction of his past life symbols that lead to the symbols within his birth chart: his current life. Your EA reasoning being exceptionally sound as you demonstrated how and why Darwin thunk in the ways that he did. Within this the interaction of his inductive/ deductive mental / intuitive perceptions that allowed him to develop the ideas and theories that he did, and how this itself was conditioned by his own past which involved his own prior religious conditioning within the fear of being harshly by his peers who were defined by their own conditioning. At the same time his Soul desire/ need to establish his own authority in such a way as to feel threatened by those who disagreed with him, and his reaction to those that did.

You then state and wonder: "Finally, I wonder about the impact of his Saturn-Neptune conjunction in Sagitarius being square to his Pisces Mercury.  It seems like yet another symbol of past conditioning to break free from, similar to the South Node of his Mercury being conjunct his Capricorn Moon being a sign of past life conditioning constantly entering into the field of his perceptual awareness.  I was reading about how Alfred Wallace began diverging from natural selection into some more spiritualist exploration of the evolution of human consciousness, such as that natural selection could not account for higher human mental faculties such as mathematical, artistic, or musical genius, and that there could be a purpose to the universe that involved the evolution of the human spirit and consciousness- apparently, these ideas disturbed Darwin, and he maintained that sexual selection explained mental phenomena as well.  I do not here mean to argue one way or the other, only that it seems Darwin was more prone to focus on sexuality as a causative force more so than spiritual concepts.  I wonder if this stems from some deep wounds related to organized religion, including lives in which he was a power player in organized religion as well as on the receiving end of trauma from organized religion- so much so that in his intellectual theorizing he had difficulty consciously integrating a spiritual element.  With his strong second house, South Node of the Moon in Taurus, and sixth house ruled by Taurus, he was much more comfortable tying his conceptual understanding into issues of sexuality, connecting his theories of evolution to survival pressure of species competing with one another for resources and mates."

The answer is yes.

Simply and excellent and brilliant EA analysis Gray. This is how EA is meant to be done, and it helps others in understanding exactly that.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on May 06, 2013, 11:32 AM
Gonzalo, I know I speak for myself, though likely many others here - that I learn a great amount from your analyses. So even if you start over, perhaps you could still share your detailed analysis? If this is not the right space for that, then I'd love to receive it privately if that felt right to you.
With much love,
am
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on May 06, 2013, 11:42 AM
Quote from: Gonzalo on May 06, 2013, 12:01 AM
Hi Rad
ok, and thanks for the direction, but this then means to start anew, since I was I was going into some detailed past-lives chapters of Darwin's Mercury, which have been quite revealing to me. I'll try to apply your indication and write a more synthesized way, and not to take too long. Sorry for the delay.

God Bless, Gonzalo

Hi Gonzalo,

You don't need to start over at all. Go ahead a post what you have been doing.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on May 07, 2013, 10:20 AM
Hi Gonzalo,

Thanks for taking the time that you have to work on the EA of why and how Darwin chose the Mercury archetype, and the totality of it's various signatures in his chart, that he did. It seems to me that what you have done with this is to present your own cosmological/ metaphysical/ and natural science pondering and understandings in which you then try to interface the various Mercury symbols in Darwin's chart with relative to the individual archetypes of all those symbols.

In so doing you have not actually individualized Darwin's Soul itself: you seem to be fitting him into the broad strokes of your own cosmological, etc, understandings. This is not to say that your understandings of such is not astute and comprehensive because it of course is. But you really have not individualized the Soul of Darwin relative to his relevant birth symbols, the totality of the Mercury archetype, in his actual life. For your own personal / evolutionary purposes I do understand why you are approaching it this way and that of course is your way which is just fine. But for the purposes of the specific and individualized evolutionary journey of Darwin's Soul relative to his Mercury archetypes it is not: either for your own specific understanding of his Soul, or for those who are trying to understand the correct way of applying the EA paradigm itself. What you have presented, relative to the Darwin symbols that you used, is more about how humans in general would naturally think in order to understand the phenomenal nature of the Creation.

This is not to say that I already know that you can do just that: you have demonstrated your EA capacity for a long time now on this message board. Your last EA analysis relative to the prior step in the planetary method, Darwin's Moon, amply demonstrates this.

It is the individualized context of Darwin's Soul that is lacking here Gonzalo. The individual Soul past that lead to the present which of course set's up the Soul's future. For example the life the preceded the Soul of Darwin was one of the greatest explorers of all time, a man named William Dampier. He circumnavigated our Earth three times, has been considered the first natural historian of Australia, and in fact sailed to the Galapagos Islands themselves and began to draw out the various life forms there: at that time. I mention this because this reflects the individualized context of Darwin's Soul that demonstrates the natural flow of the Soul from life to life. Remember the S.Node of Darwin's Mercury through geodetic equivalents correlates with the Galapagos Islands. And that S.Node is ruled by Saturn/Neptune in Sagittarius in the 12th House forming squares to all those Pisces planets in his 3rd including natal Mercury conjunct it's own N.Node. The S.Node ruler, Venus in Aries in the 3rd is trine those same symbols, and that is ruled by his Mars in the 10th which then squares the S.Node of Mercury, his Moon, and all the others S.Nodes there. This is a classic signature of world explorer on the high seas who achieved relative fame in his own life as Dampier. Of course the Saturn/Neptune symbol in the 12th also correlates with islands within the ocean. That S.Node by house, the 5th, of course correlates with Australia. It's ruler, Venus is Aries, correlates with England which was his place of birth.

Again, I want to say to you that I know you know how to do the work of EA. You are in fact brilliant in your own unique way with EA. It's just that, relative to our current step in the planetary method, you have got a little bit carried away with your own cosmological, metaphysical, and natural science understandings and then trying to fit Darwin to that.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on May 08, 2013, 09:35 AM
Hi Gonzalo, Mirta, Linda, Upasika, Kristin, Ari, and Gray ...

We will continue with our next step in the Planetary Method in a day or so. This, of course, will be focused on Venus. If any of you have any questions about anything we have discussed to date, all that has proceeded this next step, please ask me now.

All of you are simply doing incredible EA work that is not only benefiting yourselves, but for all those that are reading this thread. The very nature and quality of your work is helping many others understand what EA is, and now it is meant to be applied in our lives.

My hat is off to all of you.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Gray on May 08, 2013, 02:34 PM
Rad,

I have a follow up question regarding the Mercury function of Charles Darwin and his soul's previous incarnation as William Dampier, the sea explorer.  I haven't felt a strong grasp of this soul's sequence of incarnations relating to an inductive and deductive approach, and whether or not this is even significant enough to spend time thinking about.  I realize to a large degree there must have been a high level of synthesis going on with each approach in recent incarnations before Darwin, but I'm wondering if it is important to consider whether one or the other was more predominant.  Or, if there was flip flopping going on to a large degree, moving from an incarnation dominated by a deductive approach to an incarnation dominated by an inductive approach, and then spiraling to another in the deductive with new integration from the previous inductive.

When I look at my last writing on Mercury I feel I started leaning toward thinking Darwin was coming from a previous incarnation that was more deductive than inductive.  Now, hearing this information from you that his previous incarnation was William Dampier, I am wondering in fact if he was coming from a more inductive lifetime, and that so the symbolism of his Mercury, Ceres, Pluto, and Jupiter all being in Pisces connects with this idea, and the fact they are in the third house means that the incarnation of Darwin would have a focus on bringing a deductive approach to this inductive knowledge from a previous incarnation. This also seems to go well with the Aries Venus being Aries, and then in the third house.  I also realize that the figure of William Dampier probably had a high level of deductive reasoning, in that he was an avid journal and map writer who was able to navigate with great skill.  I just have it in my head, however, that a sea explorer like this would be utilizing a highly inductive approach.

Anything you could share along these lines would be very helpful to me.

Thank you again for offering this work- it is very illuminating.
with gratitude,
Gray
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on May 09, 2013, 10:00 AM
Quote from: Gray on May 08, 2013, 02:34 PM
Rad,

I have a follow up question regarding the Mercury function of Charles Darwin and his soul's previous incarnation as William Dampier, the sea explorer.  I haven't felt a strong grasp of this soul's sequence of incarnations relating to an inductive and deductive approach, and whether or not this is even significant enough to spend time thinking about.  I realize to a large degree there must have been a high level of synthesis going on with each approach in recent incarnations before Darwin, but I'm wondering if it is important to consider whether one or the other was more predominant.  Or, if there was flip flopping going on to a large degree, moving from an incarnation dominated by a deductive approach to an incarnation dominated by an inductive approach, and then spiraling to another in the deductive with new integration from the previous inductive.

When I look at my last writing on Mercury I feel I started leaning toward thinking Darwin was coming from a previous incarnation that was more deductive than inductive.  Now, hearing this information from you that his previous incarnation was William Dampier, I am wondering in fact if he was coming from a more inductive lifetime, and that so the symbolism of his Mercury, Ceres, Pluto, and Jupiter all being in Pisces connects with this idea, and the fact they are in the third house means that the incarnation of Darwin would have a focus on bringing a deductive approach to this inductive knowledge from a previous incarnation. This also seems to go well with the Aries Venus being Aries, and then in the third house.  I also realize that the figure of William Dampier probably had a high level of deductive reasoning, in that he was an avid journal and map writer who was able to navigate with great skill.  I just have it in my head, however, that a sea explorer like this would be utilizing a highly inductive approach.

Anything you could share along these lines would be very helpful to me.

Thank you again for offering this work- it is very illuminating.
with gratitude,
Gray

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Hi Gray,

Well this would be important relative a comprehensive understanding of the evolutionary journey of the Soul of Darwin in order to have a bottom line understanding of his Soul dynamics. My sense of this is that indeed his Soul's bottom line, it's core dynamic relative to this, is one of a Soul that comes from inductive logic first and then from within that utilizing deductive logic as necessary in order to 'fill in the blanks' in which the inductive orientation can at times create. Within the symbols of Darwin's chart one can see this by way of the fact that all those S.Nodes of Capricorn, including his Mercury, are in fact ruled by his Saturn/Neptune not only in Sagittarius, but also within the 12th House. And this of course then refer all the planets in Pisces within the 3rd House which of course includes not only his Pluto, but that Pluto being is balsamic to his Mercury. Mercury itself is balsamic to his Jupiter.

There is no clear recorded birth date for William Dampier. There is a recorded date for when he was baptized. I am posting a birth chart here, for you, through which you can see and compare it to the chart of Darwin. This birth chart for Dampier is based on my own inner 'inquiry' as to what his date of birth was. So take this chart in in that way. If this chart is correct then you will immediately notice that Dampier's Pallas is exactly conjunct the S.Node of Mercury in Darwin's chart. And, again, this directly correlates through geodetics to the Galapagos islands. There are within that many other fascinating connections between the two charts.

God Bless, Rad 
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on May 10, 2013, 09:35 AM
Hi Gonzalo,

Quote from: Gonzalo on May 09, 2013, 12:51 PM
Hi Rad

I'm still processing the experience and meaning of why and how I got so out of track in my last, Mercury, analysis "¦ You said to me:

QuoteWhat you have presented, relative to the Darwin symbols that you used, is more about how humans in general would naturally think in order to understand the phenomenal nature of the Creation.

Why, when looking at the natal Mercury in birthcharts, do I get caught so usually in 'general' themes about Mercury, that then I see or project on the natal symbol, rather than being able to understand the individual Mercury? ...   

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This must be because you have been 'thinking' so much about that archetypal nature of human thinking in general: it's archetypal function within the totality of human consciousness. And that seems to be linked to the fact of your desire to write a book about Mercury.

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"How humans in general would naturally think in order to understand the phenomenal nature of the Creation" ... isn't this was Darwin's Soul was trying to do, and then I saw this reflected in the symbols? ... or, in other words, is what I wrote out of Darwin's Soul context only, or is it out of context for any Soul's Mercury because of being only general Mercury stuff?

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Yes, but he had in own individual and unique way of doing so which is what you really missed in your analysis to a large degree.

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Isn't the individual Soul's Mercury always dealing with some aspects of the general Mercury archetype, which of course is based on the Soul's evolution context, and same time, based on or conditioned by, general Mercury evolution for all Souls (ie. culture, history)? ... it souds to me like there were some layer of reality that I'm simply not connecting ..

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Yes, but it's the individualized context that you mainly missed relative to Darwin. Read the analysis's of Gray, Upasika, Linda, Ari, and Mirta for there you will find that individual context.

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God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on May 10, 2013, 09:40 AM
Hi Kristin, Gonzalo, Linda, Upasika. Gray, Mirta, Ari and anyone else who wants to jump in ...

Next week, Monday, we will continue on with the Planetary Method utilizing Darwin's birth chart. Our next step will be Venus in all of it's dimensions and manifestations.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on May 11, 2013, 01:09 AM
Hi Rad,

I was just wondering ... is it possible that this Soul had one life between the life as William Dampier and that of Charles Darwin? - or not.

thanks Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on May 11, 2013, 09:49 AM
Hi Upasika,

In the case of the Soul of Darwin he did not.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Kristin on May 11, 2013, 11:33 AM
Dear Rad & Group..

Been needing to lay low and go slow..but wanted to include this post as this is a group effort and want to contribute what I can before moving to Venus.

Thank you so much again for your care and support.

Peace,
Kristin


Darwin's Mercury


Darwin has been in the process of progressive de-conditioning of his thoughts that have been collected over time and conditioned by religious and cultural influences. The de-conditioning creating a liberation and thus an acceleration of his evolution, Mercury in Pisces in the 3rd square Saturn balsalmic conjunction to Neptune in Sagittarius in the 12th house. Saturn is the ruler of his South Node of Mercury in Capricorn which is conjunct the South Node of Pluto, Saturn and Venus as well as his Moon. Within these symbols as well you can observe the culmination of Darwin's old belief systems shifting from something from the old text to the natural knowing that unity is in the diversity, that all paths lead to ONE. Also the ruler of Saturn and Neptune in Sag is Jupiter and this is balsalmic to Mercury in Pisces in the 3rd. Jupiter requires at times when in this case the mental cup has become too full, thus too limited that the Soul give something up in order to make room for more so the throwing off of conditioned thoughts and beliefs in this case creates space, Pisces, for what is natural to enter. This new space allows for revelations, insights and knowledge that are revolutionary and radical relative to mainstream thinking so he can bring something new to mankind. Mercury is making an exact conjunction to his North Node of Mercury in Pisces in the 3rd and an exact trine to Uranus in Scorpio which is station, making this intention even more pronounced and this is conjunct his North Node in Scorpio in the 11th.

Jeffrey shared in his talk on Mercury that long long ago at some point in time, Creation in totality was manifested and that it would take certain evolutionary requirements within any Soul in order to attune to key truths that would result in what we know as inventions. Darwin's mind was far ahead of his time. With the Pisces stellium in the 3rd you can see he had traveled to far away places and back again looking behind and under every thought and hidden possibility. Clearly he had reached, even long before this life, a place and evolutionary station where he could attune to this higher rung of wisdom. The challenge would be to disseminate it safely and without harsh repercussions. He would need to face his fears in this life of being silenced or persecuted for his (according to society) outlandish ideas, Mercury in Pisces, which is making a balsalmic conjunction to Pluto is squaring Kassandra as well as his South Node of Uranus in Sag. He has the ability to attune to his higher mind, to access thought streams and to tap into waves of universal consciousness, Mercury trine stationary Uranus in Scorpio, Uranus the higher mind, in Scorpio the get to the bottom line truth. It's as if he is wired to be a satellite for information. Mercury in Pisces makes a disseminating trine to Uranus STATION in Scorpio.. Uranus is also the ruler of the 3rd house, his radio signal and his receptivity to the information is crystal clear but knows everyone else is not operating at the same frequency and as a result, undoubtedly they will think he is Pisces-crazy. Looking to the 6th house where Mercury also rules, we see Taurus, the ruler being Venus which is in Aries in the 3rd. Venus also opposes Mars in Libra and square his Moon in Cap and South Node of Mercury in Cap reflecting he may have become too fixed in worry over what people would think about his findings and their reaction  to them, not allowing this work to be put on the planet. This would cause him to become paralyzed and freeze at times for fear of being judged and his conclusions not being taken seriously, worst case scenario, there would be trouble for his family and his Soul would not fulfill its evolutionary intentions.

With Mercury in Pisces trine North Node and Uranus in Scorpio, Darwin is far more than meets the eye and a vast mystery exists behind the mind.Uranus also rules the Sun and Pallas in Aquarius are conjunct..Pallas being the messenger and Darwin is a universal messenger. Pallas as an archetype takes takes the sexual energy emanating from the root and transforms it into the creative principle expressed via intellectual wisdom and in his case revolutionary discoveries. She is the Goddess that represents giving birth to new thought forms giving wise counsel to people on Earth and in Darwin's case, these were thought forms of a Uranian nature. Pallas Athene teaches the wisdom that the mind's eyes contains the seed of manifested form and with Darwin's natural observational capacity and ability to see the parts within the whole, this proves to produce his groundbreaking body of work.

When considering Mercury in Pisces in the 3rd, this would represent Darwin thinking in symbols, picture and landscapes. He would pull in imagery that happens in a flash and all at once, many parts active and operating similar to a machine with all of its levers and pulleys, parts and lights each with their individual role to make the whole engine run. He can be many places at once in his mind and excessively  active with those mental inner lights always turned on . In order to assimilate and solidify his thoughts, at times he will need to slow down and all together stop in some cases in order to integrate all that is coming in to allow for emotional and psychological stability. This stopping to get his bearings as a result of everything coming in all at once would be a limiting factor in his ultimate delivery of information for it would interrupt the big picture at times as in his work on evolution he did not allow for the result of cataclysm in his conclusions, so in this sense even though his work was radically earth moving and revolutionary, it was not complete. There would be a delay in what he ultimately needed to look at, consider and address. This is due to Darwin personally repressing his own emotions because of unresolved trauma, to consider cataclysm with respect to evolution, he would have to address his own inner grief and the reasons for his guilt, rage and despair. There would be a delayed PTSD as well due to the build up of the repressed emotion. The running and hiding in his mind from his heart and pain is also seen with Pluto balsamic to Mercury in Pisces squaring Neptune and Saturn, the ruler of his Moon in Capricorn. This would also be the reason for his health issues in particular his digestive tract.


Mercury governs the left brain and the mental process. Within this process there are habits created linked with the Soul'sneed to feel secure. Jeffrey call this the groove in the record. Every time that needly drops down it finds the groove and it plays your Soul song. If we want to change our life, we have to create a new groove and this takes time and repeated behavior changes. This starts with the mind and those inner tapes that play. With Mercury in Pisces balsalmic to Mercury, Darwin is attempting here to culminate lifetimes of hiding within his fantasies that the traditional God would appear and save the day. It would take yet more disillusionment that this made up man created God in the form talked about in formal texts does not exist, Mercury in Pisces square Saturn and the ruler, Neptune, balsalmic to Saturn in the 12th. For lifetimes he may have been unconsciously hiding in the church and monasteries seeking forgiveness for the trauma he had caused his family in particular his children as a result of his work distractions and self indulging. His research would lead him back to the natural God where no walls between faiths exist and where healing happens with self forgiveness not by denying and avoiding and certainly not by self persecution.


Einstein. Most will remember the little slogan he made for us: "When genius interfaces with mediocre minds you should expect violent opposition". The essence of this interface is resistance because of the challenge to the existing status quo mind-set.The fear of bringing these ideas forward. Mercury square Saturn in Sag, ruler Jupiter in 3rd, but knows he must in order to evolve, for us all to evolve. His Mercury in Pisces is making a sesquiquadrate to Mars in Libra in
the 10th, which opposes Venus, the ruler of his south Node and squares his Moon in Cap. Also  Mercury in Pisces square Kassandra and South Node of Uranus.

Charles Darwin
"I am turned into a sort of machine for observing facts & grinding out conclusions"

With thoughts darting from one to the next, the mind is always moving searching labeling in symbols, pictures, and imagery. Is not the Mercury in Pisces of itself going to naturally think in metaphorical terms or parables or analogy:  poetic? Pisces wants no limits in how it mentally organizes and he would not only have a vast imagination but he would be getting a little help from above. The way he takes in information is through osmosis of energy,  through all of his senses, Pisces, it's as if he steps into the experience with his whole soul.

Mercury in Pisces equals the ability to see the whole as a result of the collection of all the detailed thoughts. The fact his Mercury is in Pisces is not a "˜logical' process, things are not necessarily organized in a linear way."It is to grasp the whole first in such a way that the parts reveal themselves in their own natural order."  "My point is that Pisces and the 12th House archetype linked with this type of issue will cyclically or perpetually dissolve any thought/perception/idea/opinion that is limiting the necessary growth of the Soul. How many here have not experienced intellectual confusion?" (jwg)

With Mercury in Pisces in the 3rd. many paths are leading to the same point.  The left brain of its own cannot prove any of this for the their is a limit to what the mind can access. So at some point in order for such a truth to be grasped there has to be a transference in consciousness from the left to the right brain as your primary guide in your consciousness. That is to say, allowing Jupiter to lead Mercury, not Mercury leading Jupiter." This is a classic Ea study with Pluto in Pisces balsalmic to Mercury in the 3rd and Pluto making a new phase conjunction to Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd. Also the limit reaching of the mind see with Mercury balsalmic to Jupiter as if Mercury is passing the baton and letting Jupiter run with it.

This chart represents the dynamics tension within consciousness as Mercury  in a Gemini house in Pisces, by sign these two square one another and can feelat times as if he is a prisoner in his own mind. "I think some people are so sealed within their fate that they hide deeply within their mind" running, hiding, avoiding denying. There would be an ongoing pressure to come out of the dark of hiding and fear and into the light of truth and knowing and to face whatever harsh judgments or persecution that may lay ahead, for anytime anyone brings something out into the world that stretches the mind of others and forces people to question and therefore become insecure within their beliefs, the projections inevitably fly. Darwin's Mercury in Pisces trine Uranus station and the North Node in the 11th would prove to have allowed him to have just enough detachment and objectivity to see his work through.

This information, these findings were destined to come out, finally and forever, ready or not, Mercury in the 3rd conjunct North Node of Mercury and trine a station Uranus conjunct the North Node in Scorpio in the 11th. However, Pluto bisects his Mercury, where it is balsalmic and Jupiter where the phase is new suggesting that his mind is expanding to each new dimension of understanding that connects to how the world is naturally put together, not just here on earth but spiritually and eternally speaking. He would need this information in order to close the mental confines of the past. With as much as Darwin brought to the table, his path of discoverer, of the "˜universal messenger' is not over. As his consciousness expands, so will his own ability to continue to attune to ever higher frequencies of knowing, of truths set in motion at the moment of creation. With the North Node conjunct Uranus in Scorpio the 11th, ruler Pluto in the 3rd with the North Node and Uranus making a trine to Mercury in Pisces which is EXACTLY conjunct the North Node of Mercury in Pisces. He is destined to create more shocks that will stun and yet prove to enlighten the world!
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on May 12, 2013, 10:00 AM
Hi Kristin,

Thanks for making the effort you have to understand the EA of why Darwin chose the Mercury placement, in all it's dimensions, that he did. Given your existing health situation my hat is off to you for making this effort. You have done an excellent job in understanding the the EA of of why and how Darwin did chose the Mercury function that he did. Along the way there were a few misunderstandings relative to certain aspects such as his Mercury being in a disseminating trine to his Uranus. The actual aspect is a first quarter trine which symbolizes and reflects the individualizing of his thought processes of a revolutionary nature that were then received by the existing consensus in the way that it was. His Venus is not opposed to his Mars, nor does it square his Moon: by sign yes, by aspect no.

An excellent EA understanding wherein your EA reasoning is sound of the EA role of Darwin's Mercury. This is how EA is meant to be done. In so doing you, as are the others, are helping all who are following this thread, and there are many, to understand EA itself.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Rad on May 12, 2013, 10:19 AM
Hi Gonzalo,

Your EA explanation of this part of Darwin's nature, of how and why his Soul put it together in the way that it did, is simply brilliant work. The essence, or root, of all that you shared and explained in what you have presented is trauma: unresolved trauma. Thus, to liberate from the mental and emotional conditions that you have focused upon is to understand what those traumas were, and why his Soul needed to create them in the first place. It is because of this that Darwin had the unrelenting health issues that he had including the 'trembling hand' which is always one of the hallmarks of unresolved trauma.

Your have succeeded in aligning your understanding of the human brain in it's various functions and dynamics linked with Darwin's specific EA relative to his Mercury in the dimensions that you have focused upon.

Brilliant work.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Kristin on May 12, 2013, 12:43 PM
Dear Rad,

Thank you for your feedback and my apologies for the oversights in those mentioned signatures..

I so appreciate your time and guidance...

With gratitude,
Kristin

P.S. And Gonzalo.....My goodness..that was amazing!
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Post by: Linda on May 12, 2013, 08:02 PM
Interesting to note:


Estimate of Adult IQ's of Famous Geniuses:


Bobby Fischer (Chess Player)
Galileo Galilei (Astronomer/Philosopher/Physicist)     
Rene Descartes (Philosopher/Mathematician)
Immanuel Kant (Philosopher)
Charles Darwin (Naturalist)
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (Composer)
Albert Einstein (Physicist)
George Eliot (Writer)
Nicolaus Copernicus (Astronomer)
Rembrandt van Rijn (Painter)
187
185
180
175
165
165
160
160
160
155


A normal IQ ranges from 85 to 115 (Stanford-Binet test).
Only approximately 1% of all the people in the world have an IQ higher than 135.


Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on May 13, 2013, 09:37 AM
Hi Linda, Gray, Gonzalo, Kristin, Mirta, Ari, and Upasika ....

I will resume with you our incredible thread on the Planetary Method tomorrow: Tuesday. I need a little time off .............

God Bless you all,

Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on May 14, 2013, 10:17 AM
Hi Linda, Mirta, Kristin, Gonzalo, Upasika, Gray, and Ari and anyone else who wished to join us ..

From JWG:

" Ok, next step in our Virgo sequence. Venus, of course, is going to correlate specifically to the nature of the value associations that you make for yourself. Values equal a sense of meaning that you are giving to your life. How many people on earth do you think can live without a sense of meaning? The sense of meaning in life, archetypically through astrology, is specific to Venus. Meaning is specific to that which you value. That which you value is in its own way conditioning or contributing to what you decide to believe. Understand my point?

So the Soul in any given life must orientate to a specific type of value associations that provide a specific sense of meaning. That now is specifically linked with the evolutionary intentions for the life itself. So here we determine and can see from the point of view of Soul/Pluto why Venus is in this house, and in this sign, making those aspects. Understand now?"

We can add to this in this way:

Venus will also correlate to the very nature of the inner relationship that a Soul has to itself: how it relates to itself which then becomes the basis of how it relates to others. The nature of the inner relationship that the Soul has to itself becomes the basis of the essence of it's own inner magnetism that is the causative factor of how others relate to the Soul. Within this dynamic is the issue of hearing, listening, of how the Soul is able to hear what others are relating to it, sharing with it. As a result, how others hear or relate to what the Soul itself is sharing or relating to others about.

Venus also correlates with the archetype of survival from the Taurus point of view, and what the Soul needs in order to affect it's survival. In turn what the Soul feels it needs in order to survive will then correlates to what the Soul values which then connects to a core sense of meaning for it's life. Within this then Venus correlates to giving to others what they need, and others giving to the Soul what it needs. In turn, both set up the dynamic of expectations: of what the Soul expects from others, and what others expect from the Soul. Because procreation is essential to survival in all species of life Venus, from the Taurus point of view, correlates to the sexual values and needs of the Soul. In turn, this correlates to the sexual values and needs of others, the Libra side of Venus, that the Soul is in relationships too.

The Libra side of Venus correlates to the need for balance in the Soul's life in order to feel stable: Taurus. Libra as an archetype is inherently correlates with extremes, or extremity. As a result that can  then correlate to two very different psychological cycles in the Soul's life that can create the sense of not feeling stable. The Taurus side of Venus correlates to the ever necessary need to stabilize these extremes in such a way that balance, Libra, is realized.

Venus also correlates with the very nature of our 'feelings': how we feel about whatever circumstantial stimulus occurs in the life of the Soul, and how the Soul 'feels' about itself: it's inner relationship to itself. Feelings are instinctual reactions to any given stimulus, of how the Soul feels about itself in any given moment, and these in turn trigger emotions which are in fact reactions to the Soul's feelings. Emotions, of course, correlate with the triad of Cancer/ Scorpio/ Pisces.

So let's know focus on Darwin's Venus archetype in all of it's dimensions focusing on all of these archetypes.

If you have any questions please ask them now.

God Bless, Rad



Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on May 19, 2013, 11:02 AM
Hi Gonzalo,

Yes, to a limited extent you are on track relative to chemical poisoning but not the extent that it seems you are projecting. There is no mention or evidence of Darwin being specifically involved with the field of mining that would have lead to any positioning from such a source. His experiments with simple chemistry when younger could have had a limited impact on his physiological system but not to the extent of being responsible for his major health issues, and certainly not to the extent of causing the appearance of a limited autism. That apparent autism, although he was not actually autistic, was a reflection of the extreme hypersensitivity of his Soul which is of course symbolized by all the Pisces planets, the ruler of the Moon being in the 12th with Neptune, and these squaring the Pisces planets.

The actual 'chemical poisoning' is reflected anatomically in his hypothalamus which is responsible for emitting 'chemical messages' that regulate the instinctual functioning of the body. These messages have been afflicted due to the high degree of unresolved traumas in this and other lifetimes which then also correlate to cellular memories that are caused by the Soul itself. The hypothalamus correlates to Uranus as well as the dynamic of traumas. It also correlates to the membranes that encase the nerves: the nervous system in general. The high degree of unresolved trauma has the affect of tearing these membranes apart which then leaves the nervous system unprotected and liable for any manner of nervous system related issues.

All of his stomach and colon/ intestine problems throughout his life is not only part of the RNA/DNA of his genetic code that he inherited from his mother, but also caused by, again, the deep degree of unresolved traumas. In combination this creates a compressed/ spastic pancreas that is then unable to emanate and regulate the proper combinations of insulin and the various digestive enzymes which in turn impact on the stomach as over acidity or alkalinity. In turn this impacts on the duodenum and liver and their functioning including cleansing the body of toxicities, which, in turn, impact on the colon and intestines. In combination this then manifests on the correct level and types of bacteria in the colon and intestine which, in turn, can then cause all manner of issues related to the colon and intestines including ulcerative colitis, diverticulitis, and so on. The overall functioning of the immune system is a core way is linked with the health of the intestinal tract itself.     

The RNA/DNA and the genetic coding all correlates to Pluto, Scorpio, and the 8th House which also correlate to the pancreas, digestive enzymes, insulin, the duodenum, the entire colon/ intestinal tract, and co-rules with the liver with Jupiter. Bacterias and viruses also correlate with these archetypes.

God Bless, Rad

Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on May 21, 2013, 10:07 AM
Hi Gonzalo,

Quote from: Gonzalo on May 20, 2013, 11:24 AM
Thanks Rad.

The general hypothesis I have is that past lives heavy exposure to toxicity of metals or non-metals can be tracked in the birthchart, and can have manifestations in current lifetime.

The idea is to identify such exposure to toxicity, in order to use means such a homeopathy to heal this type of impact.

Same thing with with past-lives medical conditions such as syphilis.

This seems interesting because homeopathic knowledge describes the effects of such conditions at physical, mental and emotional levels, and this would serve for observation-correlation.   

Would you say this hypothesis is correct?  

God Bless,
Gonzalo

Hi Gonzalo,

Unless you have specific knowledge about any Soul's past lives, including exposure to various toxicities, you can only see such possibilities relative to the EA symbols involved in such a possibility. In so doing THAT DOES NOT MEAN such things happened without that specific knowledge that is gained in other ways.

Even when this has been the specific reality for any given Soul the carry over from one life to the next is relatively minimal in the form of 'cellular memories' that are infused, caused by, the memories of the Soul itself. When this is the case if a Soul had had prior life exposure to toxicities that were severely debilitating to the Soul then exposure to similar and/or the same types of toxicities can indeed unlock those cellular memories that can then lead to a miasma within the body that reflect the physical, emotional, and mental symptoms of those specific toxicities. Homeopathy can then be used to treat these conditions.

We must remember the Natural Law that when any Soul is 'released' from a life being lived, physical death of the form, that ANY condition within the Soul of a physical nature is instantly healed. This is why the carry over from life to life of such physical conditions, at most, is minimal.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Linda on May 22, 2013, 01:58 AM
Hi Rad,

I'm having physical problems and need to cut down
on all computer work. The glossary updates are a
priority, therefore I cannot continue with the Charles
Darwin assignment. I will read along for now. I hope
to join in again later down the track. Thank you and
the EA members for this wonderful experience.

Love,

Linda
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on May 22, 2013, 10:02 AM
Hi Linda,

So sorry to hear about your health issues due to your computer work. One herb that can help reestablish the natural balance within the brain is the Chinese herb Fo-Ti. All of us will pray and wish that you can recover just as soon as you can.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on May 23, 2013, 10:04 AM
Quote from: Gonzalo on May 23, 2013, 02:51 AM
Hi Rad,

QuoteWe must remember the Natural Law that when any Soul is 'released' from a life being lived, physical death of the form, that ANY condition within the Soul of a physical nature is instantly healed. This is why the carry over from life to life of such physical conditions, at most, is minimal.

No, this is not true. It is very relative, at least. Because I'm not talking about conditions that would affect the body only with exclusion of the Soul, supposing this could be possible, which I don't think so. The conditions I was talking about obviously affect the thought process, and the emotional dynamics. I know this by self-experience even though in connection with other type of impact on the physical body. Anyway, I need to gather additional evidence relating to the conditions I was talking about in my question.

I'm not continuing in this practice thread. I need some time out.

Thanks so much Rad and group, you are all doing a great work.

God Bless,

Gonzalo

Hi Gonzalo,

"No, this is not true. It is very relative, at least. Because I'm not talking about conditions that would affect the body only with exclusion of the Soul, supposing this could be possible, which I don't think so. "

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Your right, it is not possible which is exactly what I said. All memories, including physical conditions of the body, are stored in the Soul. This is then the basis of what is called cellular memories that I talked about.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on May 23, 2013, 10:06 AM
Hi Gray, Upasika, Kristin, Mirta, and Ari...

Please let me know who wishes to continue in our Planetary Method thread and, for those that do, let me know your progress on our next step involving Venus.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Kristin on May 23, 2013, 11:28 AM
Dear Rad,
I do wish to continue and will be able to start working on it this weekend.
Peace,
Kristin
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on May 23, 2013, 04:11 PM
Hi Rad,

I wish to continue too. I am very busy at the moment (as usual these days which is a good thing) so wont be able to get anything posted until about mid next week.

blessings Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on May 23, 2013, 07:41 PM
Hi Rad, I'm getting started on this tomorrow and intend to post next week.
Thank you so much. Love, am
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on May 23, 2013, 10:22 PM
Rad, before I get started I have a question about Venu's placement.
In my own observations when a planet is within a degree or so from an angle I have tended to interpret it as if it was in the next house from the perspective of just beginning, taking the first steps, into a new cycle since it really seems to take on those characteristics of the angular house more strongly than the cadent house it is in.

I also have the intuition to question the birth time here. Perhaps Venus is more in the third than we thought? How would you suggest I proceed with working with Venus in an accurate way here?
Thank you.
Love, am
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: mirta on May 24, 2013, 08:39 AM
Hi Rad
I wish to continue, but very busy couldn't begin with Venus yet. I will do my best to post something next weekend. Thanks so much
God Bless
Mirta
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on May 24, 2013, 01:53 PM
Quote from: ari moshe on May 23, 2013, 10:22 PM
Rad, before I get started I have a question about Venu's placement.
In my own observations when a planet is within a degree or so from an angle I have tended to interpret it as if it was in the next house from the perspective of just beginning, taking the first steps, into a new cycle since it really seems to take on those characteristics of the angular house more strongly than the cadent house it is in.

I also have the intuition to question the birth time here. Perhaps Venus is more in the third than we thought? How would you suggest I proceed with working with Venus in an accurate way here?
Thank you.
Love, am


Hi Ari,

With a planet this close the the proceeding cusp the actual house the planet is in serves as the baseline upon which the following cusp, house, is then added too. So in Darwin's case, the 3rd house is the baseline upon which the 4th can be added. The very nature of his life demonstrates the accuracy of his 3rd house Venus: not only in the life of Darwin, but the life that came before that as well.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Gray on May 24, 2013, 09:46 PM
Hi Rad,

I want to continue and have a busy three day weekend ahead of me.  I have thought about his Aries Venus but have not yet begun going through a thorough process of analysis and writing.  I would hope to have something ready by next Wednesday or Thursday, if that is not too late.
Thank you again for the opportunity,
Gray
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: mirta on May 26, 2013, 01:20 PM
Hi Rad,
I need some clarifications:
1)What's the EA difference between the planetary rulership of a house (because it rules the sign in the cusp) and the natural ruler, (Venus for the 2nd house for example)?
How should we consider these different rulerships in the analysis?


2)Given my language limitations I don't understand clearly this sentence:
"With a planet this close the proceeding cusp the actual house the planet is in serves as the baseline upon which the following cusp, house, is then added too. So in Darwin's case, the 3rd house is the baseline upon which the 4th can be added. "
Could you please express in another way what do you mean by "is then added"?

Thanks so much
God Bless
Mirta
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on May 27, 2013, 10:46 AM

Hi Mirta,

Quote from: mirta on May 26, 2013, 01:20 PM
Hi Rad,
I need some clarifications:
1)What's the EA difference between the planetary rulership of a house (because it rules the sign in the cusp) and the natural ruler, (Venus for the 2nd house for example)?
How should we consider these different rulerships in the analysis?

*******

The difference is simply that their is a zodiac that has natural rulers, i.e., Venus is the natural ruler of the 2nd and 7th houses which correlate to the natural archetypes of those houses, as do the signs Libra and Taurus, that become conditioned by changing the signs of those natural houses with other signs on them, as well as changing the signs and/or houses of the natural planetary rulers of those natural house ruler ships. The baseline or foundation of understanding any chart is the natural zodiac itself from the 1st through the 12th house. Each natural house correlating to specific aspects or dimensions within the totality of human consciousness.

Each of these natural houses that correlate to specific dimensions or aspects to human consciousness becomes conditioned by any other sign that may be found on these natural houses. So the natural 3rd house can becomes conditioned, how it manifests and why, by placing another sign on it's cusp.

Each natural house has a natural planetary ruler as well. The location by house and sign of this natural house ruler, i.e, the natural ruler of the 4th house is the Moon can be located in any other sign and/or house, which then conditions how the natural 4th house is actualized in the way that it is: determined by the location of the natural planetary ruler of that house, or any house in question.


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2)Given my language limitations I don't understand clearly this sentence:
"With a planet this close the proceeding cusp the actual house the planet is in serves as the baseline upon which the following cusp, house, is then added too. So in Darwin's case, the 3rd house is the baseline upon which the 4th can be added. "
Could you please express in another way what do you mean by "is then added"?

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As in adding layers on top of another, preceding, layer: as in different stories in the same building. So we can have a first floor, a second floor, etc. The baseline will be that first story which is then 'added onto' by another story. In the above example the 3rd House is the first story, or baseline, upon which the 4th House is then added: the second story.

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Let me know if this is now clear Mirta. If not, ask again ....

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: mirta on May 28, 2013, 05:57 PM
 Hi Rad,
Your explanation about the planet near the following cusp is clear, thanks. I am not sure if I understand it correctly.
Does it mean for example that his self-image or his familial relationships is based on that 3rd house Venus?
Or is it that Venus is culminating a 3d house cycle and a 4th house cycle will be added in a following lifetime?

I wasn't clear in my first question about the evolutionary difference between the actual and the natural ruler, I apologize.
I wanted to know:
"¢ If one of them is preexistent and the other belongs to the current lifetime.  I understand that planets are preexisting patterns and house cusps belong to the current structure of consciousness, is that correct?
"¢ Or if they are different layers in the current life, and in that case what is that each of them symbolizes, what is the relationship between them
For example: What's the correct question? Or what is the first question:
-Why a soul with a Venus in Aries in 3rd house (preexisting pattern of freedom and individuality) chooses a 2nd house in Cap with conservative, conditioned and traditional values? Or
-Why a Soul with a Cap 2nd house chooses a Venus in Aries?
-Or Why a soul chooses a Venus in Aries and a 2nd house in Cap? In that case which is the first or basic conditioning and which the agent that modifies or introduces variations in the first?
Is there any rule?
If my question is not clear, or doesn't make sense please forget it.
Thank you for your patient attention.
God Bless
Mirta

Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on May 29, 2013, 10:42 AM
Hi Mirta,

Quote from: mirta on May 28, 2013, 05:57 PM
Hi Rad,
Your explanation about the planet near the following cusp is clear, thanks. I am not sure if I understand it correctly.
Does it mean for example that his self-image or his familial relationships is based on that 3rd house Venus?
Or is it that Venus is culminating a 3d house cycle and a 4th house cycle will be added in a following lifetime?

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In the case we are dealing with, Darwin, Venus is the ruler of the S.Node. As a result this naturally correlates to prior life dynamics relative to the archetype of Venus that are coming into the current life. The conjunction to the 4th House cusp, relative to it's placement in the 3rd, also correlates to prior life dynamics that are part of those past life dynamics that are coming into the current life: the tension of conflict within the Soul of Darwin between his need for independence to explore what he desires to explore which includes travels within the world, and his need for home or family life. This is restated with the ruler of that a Venus being Mars in Libra in the 10th and square his Moon in Capricorn in his 2nd which is ruled by his Saturn/Neptune conjunction in the 12th which then trines that Venus. This dynamic tension of course is reflected in the actual life of Darwin.

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I wasn't clear in my first question about the evolutionary difference between the actual and the natural ruler, I apologize.
I wanted to know:
"¢ If one of them is preexistent and the other belongs to the current lifetime.  I understand that planets are preexisting patterns and house cusps belong to the current structure of consciousness, is that correct?

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All planets, in the current life birth chart, have S.Nodes which correlate to the prior life dynamics that correlate with each planet. Those prior life dynamics are then infused into the natal position of whatever planet in such a way that the current life placement of that planet correlates to how the Soul is intending to evolve those past life dynamics by way of the position, house , sign, aspects of the natal position of any given planet. This evolutionary intention is further reflected in the N.Node of that planet by way of it's own house, sign placement, and aspects to it.

Yes, the signs on the house cusps correlate, in total, to the current life structure of consciousness.


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"¢ Or if they are different layers in the current life, and in that case what is that each of them
symbolizes, what is the relationship between them
For example: What's the correct question? Or what is the first question:

-Why a soul with a Venus in Aries in 3rd house (preexisting pattern of freedom and individuality) chooses a 2nd house in Cap with conservative, conditioned and traditional values? Or
-Why a Soul with a Cap 2nd house chooses a Venus in Aries?
-Or Why a soul chooses a Venus in Aries and a 2nd house in Cap? In that case which is the first or basic conditioning and which the agent that modifies or introduces variations in the first?
Is there any rule?

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The rule is to understand the why of anything the Soul has chosen, is currently choosing, and will be choosing that reflect it's ongoing evolutionary needs and desires. Thus the questions you just posed are answered from that point of view. The answers, as in the questions you asked, are of course specific and unique to any given Soul as with the case of Darwin. Any Soul is a complex whole of all kinds of dynamics that reflect it's ongoing evolutionary desires, and why those desires. This is why we start our EA analysis of any chart with the understanding of the core EA paradigm which then correlates to the foundation of any chart upon which, through which, all the dynamics of the Soul are then understood. Within this it is essential to understand the evolutionary stage of development of any given Soul in order to understand how they will actualize any given sign, house, or planet.

In the types of questions you asked, as they refer to Darwin, his Soul has been progressively questioning the  consensus of status-quo  of any existing belief or understanding of anything. This is how to understand his Capricorn Moon, 2nd House cusp, not to mention all the S.Nodes in Capricorn in his 2nd which includes his S.Node of Venus, as the relate to his Venus in Aries in the 3rd. All those S.Nodes in Capricorn in his 2nd are ruled by his Saturn/Neptune conjunction in his 12th that trine his Venus in Aries. This is the graphic symbolism for independent questioning of the consensus or status-quo of anything by way of the beliefs held by that consensus. With his Venus also inconjunct his Uranus in Scorpio conjunct his N.Node in the 11th, another pre-existing pattern, we can now see again this need to rebel or question that consensus or status-quo.

This is also restated with his S.Node of Neptune being in Aquarius in his 2nd that is conjunct his Chiron which then squares his Nodal Axis. He was born, chose to have, an Aquarius Sun in his 2nd as well. It is this essential questioning that not only defined his inner relationship to himself, and his core values equaling meaning for his life, that served his own ongoing evolutionary need to individuate, but then had the impact on the world, Capricorn/Saturn, that it did: his whole theory of evolution which revolutionized how the consensus or status-quo understood it's the origins of the species called humans itself.


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Keep asking if you are not clear on this.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: mirta on May 29, 2013, 07:24 PM
It is enlightening to me Rad, I am clear now.
With gratitude,God Bless
Mirta
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on May 31, 2013, 04:10 AM
Hi Rad,

Just an update. It's been too busy for me to do any assignment so far, but I will now be able to work on it this weekend.

blessings Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on May 31, 2013, 04:53 PM
Venus in Aries in the 3rd house.

The way Darwin related to his own self, established his own sense of self esteem and personal value for his own life was through independently aspiring towards collecting great amount of data that allowed him to understand more connections within the environment. Venus is in a new phase to all the Pisces planets in the 3rd house - this has a correlation to the personal sense of purpose: to venture out to find answers and forge new paths of mental constructs (Aries in the 3rd) relative to the infinite expanse of life actually having no answers to begin with (Pisces in the 3rd). This implies on the one hand an exciting sense of perusal destiny and purpose, and yet a natural anxiety linked to the inherent nature of there being so many questions yet unanswered.
This at times could also lead to cycles of anger based on the need to defend his ideas when feeling challenged or confronted with perspectives he had not yet considered. There was simply the need for this soul to think for himself. Inwardly there would also be an anxiety based the need to discover himself, to find out who he is through constant movement. This means that this soul needed to constantly be on the edge of uncovering more data, otherwise his own sense of becoming, which links to his survival, would be threathened.

Since this Venus rules the sn in Taurus, we see this is a survival instinct this soul has developed very strongly in his past: actualizing his own purpose through a sharp and clear mind. It's interesting of course that his theory on natural selection is what inspired the concept of "survival of the fittest": Venus in Aries.

The intention for this soul was really to make everything his own, to figure it all out for himself. His Venus is the ruler of his sn in Taurus in the 5th house and is balsamic phase semi sextile to that sn - thus there was a sense for this soul of personal destinty, and yet also the need to bring to a relative close this cycle of exploring, gathering and synthesizing data. The need for this soul was to narrow his purpose towards a clearly refined universal awareness that would essentially allow him to feel that he has established his own purpose exactly the way it was meant to. In other words there was some higher purpose that this soul inwardly knew it was to bring to a greater stage of culmination. The crisis implied within this is the tension around where to focus his mind - what steps to take. The resolution was of course for him to just take those steps. The gibbous inconjunct to the north node implies that through just taking each step, his own personal sense of purpose became more clear. The point within that was also for him to detach from thinking about his own personal survival, but rather to objectify even his own survival needs.

Venus rules the MC and so this process of self discovery also linked to a natural inner pressure that there is a role he is here to fill - and in order succeed and be accepted as reputable, he would have to create a structural reality that would allow him to focus all of his energies towards his data collection and discoveries. Since Mars is the ruler of Venus and is in Libra in the 10th, squaring his Moon in Capricorn in the 2nd, this soul would have felt limited, confined by the social expectations of who he is supposed to be, how he is meant to behave, what his work is supposed to look like. This is further emphasized by the sn of Venus in Cap in the 2nd house on his Moon: the need to secure, internalize and focus on the work he is here to do. It emphasizes the incredibly private nature of this soul and the personal survival/preservation needs that are the basis for that private nature.

He would have been somewhat defensive of his own work - needing to assert his freedom to follow his path. With the strong linkage to Capricorn in the 2nd, his default has been to go into his own little world to do his work. While great productivity is implied in that, there was also a great degree of protection. As we have spoken about, there is an ongoing evolutionary theme for this soul to access emotional chaos, to let go into what he cannot control emotionally. The Moon rules Cancer in the 8th.

Progressively this soul has been learning to focus entirely upon his own desires and to fulfill them, no matter what that looks like: gibbous inconjunct to the nn in the 11th house Scorpio.

The gibbous phase by itself implies self development and often the need to create crisis in order to make the necessary adjustments. There can be a great degree of self doubt/holding oneself back based on not being ready enough. Here we have a sense of personal limitation: I am not ready enough to focus my mental energies, I don't have the proper resources, what I am doing is too different from what everyone else is doing, I will not be accepted as a scientist. I can also see the inner feeling of entrapment with the Aries/Scorpio linkage: that his soul desires to objectively perceive the entirety of his environment, and yet he will feel limited by his minds intense focus on the details of the environment. This could lead him to periods of collecting lots of data and then wanting to give up because there are too many thoughts/too much data to hold in his mind at once. The lesson for this soul would have been to keep on collecting data, and to keep his mind completely open at the same time - and through the first quarter trine of Venus with the Neptune Saturn, to simply allow his intuition to synthesize all of it naturally.

There's also something important about his own survival implied in this inconjunct aspect. On a purely internal level, his own survival, which is linked to acceptance by the scientific community which would affirm his self esteem at a core level, required him to generate a great amount of will in order to actualize his purpose. Again the idea of needing to be fit enough, strong enough, to fulfill his purpose - otherwise his own sense of worth would be threatened. Also what comes up for me about this is simply the need to cooperate with evolutionary necessity by way of plunging into his data collective no matter what that looks like: to not become fixated on his differentness relative to everyone else, but rather to simply do the work he is here to do. In that sense, his soul was healing and improving his self esteem, self trust in this life.

Sexually speaking there would be a great degree of curiosity and inquisitiveness regarding the nature of desire, sexuality, procreation etc. I imagine in a sexual sense there has been a lot of trauma for this soul that may have lead to some sort of dissociation from being fully embodied during sexual experience. This is implied by the gibbous inconjunct to the nn and Uranus in Scorpio in the 11th, and then of course the Chiron skipped step in Aquarius in the 2nd. Psychologically there would be a need for freedom and a deep feeling of entrapment linked to the fear of being completely alone without anywhere to place himself in life. Thus the need to find answers to all kinds of questions so that he can feel emotionally secure within himself. There was also a strong pro-creative instinct, Aries, and yet the need for this soul at the same time was to objectify his desire nature and look at it as an observer. I imagine this would have made him an interesting, perhaps inconsistent, sexual partner.

Venus shares a first quarter trine with Saturn and Neptune in Sag in the 12th, which itself is ruled by Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd to which Venus is in a new phase with. This correlates to a great degree of skill and ease relative to his ability to independently on his own venture out to ask the questions/collect the data that pertains to understanding the inherently inner connected nature of things. Contrary to what I just wrote above about his sexuality, it's also clear within this signature that his sexual experiences would also have been somewhat of a leading edge into the spiritualization of consciousness. As I recall reading about his wife, it seemed she was on the cusp of the spiritual stages of evolution. A part of him wanted to let go and merge into just "being", and yet it's that inability to keep the mind quiet that would bring up all kinds of deeper questions about the ultimate meaning and purpose of life through the direct experience that there are certain things his mind cannot reach. In other words there was a realm of sexual/emotional attraction and inspiration that this soul experienced that was beyond what he could understand or know about, but rather only something he could surrender to. This I feel will deepen in future lives.

Lastly, addressing the question, "why that Venus?". As I understand it, it was to create a focal point of personal will and desire that would allow him to relate to his own soul's purpose in such a way as to give value and meaning to the ever expanse of knowledge that could never be fully synthesized and undesrtood in the first place. It served the purpose of establishing an inner value system that allowed him to orient to the entirety of the "unknown" with a great eagerness that would allow him to uncover more about the nature of the enviroment and thus his own place within it.

Venus rules the 6th house, whereas Pluto rules the 12th house. So for this soul Venus implies a personal sense of inner reflection upon his own self worth, his own values and what he needed to improve upon. It implies an underlying self doubt relative to his ability to survive and meet his own basic needs. His Venus was a function that allowed him to keep on going, to develop his own self esteem and find greater meaning and value in his life so as to heal his own inner relationship with himself.

Relative to the 12th house Scorpio which Pluto rules, again recognizing the new phase with Venus and Pluto, the point was essentially to live his life by constantly being in motion. Otherwise the 12th house/Pisces reality of there being too much to understand, too much to surrender to would leave him feeling absolutely helpless and useless: 6th house lack. So this Venus in Aries was a function of self preservation by way of keeping him active and in motion which allowed him to cooperate with evolutionary necessity to uncover the interconnected facts of life. This also adds some more context for the psychology of entrapment within this soul. With Pluto ruling the 12th, there is a basic fear of being consumed by forces larger than himself; there were deep emotional/sexual desires to penetrate his partner on a total level, and yet also fear of just that based on the deep fear of "death". Venus in Aries ruling the 6th implies how he would stay connected with himself, how he would modulate his sexual sharing in such a way that he did not "get lost" into the unknown. Sometimes withholding his sexual energy so as to not get lost in something that he will loose control over, and sometimes getting completely absorbed, consumed by it so as to release pent up emotional/sexual energy. I imagine during during most sexual activity he would tend to be pretty extreme; completely wild and exhibit an incredibly strong desire for all things sensual. Venus sn on the Moon in Cap in the 2nd: need to release repressed and judged his natural sexual/emotional needs.

Rad, will you offer some more guidance for properly understanding the balsamic semi sextile between the sn and Venus? I feel I only got the textbook definition of it - but not the essence of that signature. Same for the gibbous inconjunct with the nn and Uranus which is the other side of that aspect. I would like to understand more clearly the actual soul dynamics implied within these signatures.

Thank you so much Rad. With much love, am
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Katherine on Jun 01, 2013, 12:09 AM
Thank you Rad, and those who are actively participating. This thread has been so supportive to my learning of EA.

God Bless,

Katherine
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Jun 01, 2013, 09:32 AM
Hi Katherine,

First welcome to our message board, and second thanks for your comment. All of us here in our  EA community hope you will find it a great learning tool for you own development of EA.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Jun 01, 2013, 09:33 AM
Hi Ari,

Thanks for making the effort to continue on with our Planetary Thread. I am going to be off until Monday as I do need a bit of a break. So I will review work then, and answer the questions you posed.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Jun 03, 2013, 10:43 AM

Hi Ari,

Thanks for making the effort you have to understand the EA of why Darwin chose the Venus placement that he did relative to his ongoing evolutionary intentions and purposes. Much of what you wrote has focused, correctly, on the vastness of his mind, the questions that he would ask, and the answers that he would attempt to discover as the core of his inner relationship to himself and, thus, what he valued and found meaning within.

Questions relative to Venus that you did not go into include how he related to others based upon how he related to himself, how he was able to 'hear' or 'listen' to others based on how he heard and listened to himself. Within this what he needed and valued from others in general, and what he needed and valued by way of intimate partners specifically: his essential needs. In turn what others in general, and his intimate others which include his family members needed and valued from him.

Within this his core sexual values, the meaning that he would give to his sexuality, and what his intimate other, his wife, sexually valued and needed from him. You did make the effort to understand his orientation to his sexuality to some extent but this part of your analysis was underdeveloped. And this statement  "I imagine during during most sexual activity he would tend to be pretty extreme; completely wild and exhibit an incredibly strong desire for all things sensual " is not correct at all. Above all else his Soul was very conservative and restrained concerning sexually relating to another which is defined by his hypersensitive nature manifesting as a core shyness and, thus, conservative and restrained. Sexuality for him would be primarily rooted in sex as procreation. Relative to his Moon, Sun, Chiron, all the S.Nodes in Capricorn including Venus in his 2nd House, he would have a high degree of self focus sexually that manifested primarily as masturbation. Thus, with his wife or anyone sexually intimate with him, sexual intercourse was really just another form of masturbation to him.

There is much more that can be said about his sexuality but I will not write about that now as I want to wait to see what the other contributors say about this first.

And you asked: "Rad, will you offer some more guidance for properly understanding the balsamic semi sextile between the sn and Venus? I feel I only got the textbook definition of it - but not the essence of that signature. Same for the gibbous inconjunct with the nn and Uranus which is the other side of that aspect. I would like to understand more clearly the actual soul dynamics implied within these signatures."

So much of what you have correctly understood in your analysis reflects this specific aspects which are all set in motion within his Soul as an inner calling or sense of having not only a special destiny to actualize, but how that special destiny manifests in the world in such a way as to create an evolutionary leap in the human species in terms of understanding their own origins.

His desire was to understand the very essence of evolution for all species including human relative to the origins of all life and how they evolved. This is indeed the very basis of the vastness of his inner world, his Soul, his mind. It is this very vastness that would created periods of psychological instability as the answers that he would come up with at one time would be undermined or questioned in another time. Necessarily needing to stabilize on a cyclic basis would then become the causative determinant in limiting just how far he would allow his inner contemplations, and the answers to those contemplations, to go. As a result of this he created inner crisis's, the simi-sextile and the inconjunct, that manifested by limiting himself in terms of how far he would let himself go in terms of grappling with the totality of it all: the nature of Creation.

As a result his only allowed himself to understand one half of the natural laws that correlate to the Natural Law of evolution itself: the slow progressive evolutionary tract of all species linked with procreation as various species adapted to the ever changing environment. What he did not allow himself to understand wad the Natural Law of evolution as reflected in cataclysms and the great evolutionary leaps created because of.

These aspects also correlate of course to the crisis he created for many human beings in their own understanding of the origin of species wherein the consensus understanding until then was primarily rooted in the Bible in the western world. By challenging this this of course then created the crisis to himself by way of the consensus judging, criticizing, and ridiculing him. Relative to his hypersensitive nature that most never knew or understood about him this did have a deep impact on him psychologically and emotionally in such as way as to contribute to his ongoing health issues. 

In any case your EA analysis of Darwin's Venus and the reasons for it, how it manifested within him, was excellent work Ari. You of course are demonstrating exactly how EA is meant to be done. And because of this you are helping all those that come to read this thread understanding EA as well.

Bravo !

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Kristin on Jun 03, 2013, 12:29 PM
Dear Rad & group,

Thanks for your guidance and for this opportunity to grow.

Venus

With Venus being the ruler of Darwin's South Node in Taurus in the 5th, this gives Venus extra emphasis, what he values and what holds meaning is being picked up where he left off, this trend carried forward into the most recent life. In order for the magnitude of what was on Darwin's evolutionary plate and his inner sense of destiny to bring his scientific findings to the world his sense of meaning would require for him to be totally wrapped up in his vision, where at times, nothing else mattered in the world other than what was on his mind and where he was on his inner road map, Venus, ruler of his South Node in the 5th is in Aries in the 3rd house in a new phase to Jupiter in Pisces. His sense of meaning would be directly linked to the pioneering of his discoveries that he had unearthed accumulated, compiled and synthesized while traveling the world. He would have valued immensely the need for total freedom to explore without limits boundaries or borders and would know it would require traveling cross continentally in particular by boat to reach destinations where his research could be completed. His Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd is balsalmic to Mercury and making a new phase conjunction to Pluto and to Venus also reflects his past life as William Dampier who was the first Englishman to circumnavigate the world three times. Both Darwin and Dampier share a Sag rising, the ruler Jupiter balsalmic Mercury in Pisces and making new phase to Darwin's Venus in Aries in the 3rd, suggesting Darwin would continue his relationship with the sea and his travels in order to continue his ground breaking work.

With the sense of meaning leading to and thus contributing to what one believes, a Venus in Aries in Darwin's case especially when making a new phase to Jupiter, the chart ruler, Darwin would have had this belief that there was always more to learn, there was always something more to know and to uncover and his motivation would be high. He would have had an inner confidence on the heels of his last success as an explorer in his recent life as Dampier and a drive to keep on going until the last stone was overturned. This fever for travel would have created a real restlessness inside of him when he was not on his way somewhere new. He would hunger to explore the unexplored, where no other man had ever walked and within this it would require an independent, self reliant disposition. With a South Node in the 5th and the ruler being Venus in Aries in the 3rd, his children contributed immensely to his sense of meaning but with his motivations being so strong for his explorations it would be a great challenge to strike a reasonable balance between all that was incessantly on his mind and being present as a parent. It can reflect always having his mind on something even while spending time with others, his children included.

With Pluto in Pisces in a new phase to Venus in Aries, this further re-states Darwin's ultimate need for freedom in his life in every way, especially a life that allows for boundless, timeless inner space to travel in his mind. He will come to understand who he is, how he is put together and his relationship to the universe from not only his outer worldly travels and all the new information he has collected but within the inner expeditions that would take flight. Venus in Aries reflects his need to be a pioneer of his own work and to earn and provide in his own independent way, to be his own boss, with no one but himself calling the shots. He would be fortunate enough to come through a family with the financial means to fund his interests, his adventures and to get his work off the ground reflected in his South Node in Taurus in the 5th house, ruler Venus in Aries trining Saturn and Neptune. His sense of meaning and sense of self importance would come from the written work that was a result of all of his travels. Perhaps even more important would be his need to continue to challenge not only the status quo and the world at large but to challenge his own status quo intellectually as well as his beliefs. There was an ongoing pressure to not only challenge the status quo, Venus in Aries, but to push his own intellectual limits, Venus in Aries, ruler Mars in Libra in the 10th so a new creative process could be born. You can see this re-stated with the South Node of Uranus, the higher octave of Mercury, conjunct his South Node of Mars in the 1st in Sagittarius, ruler Jupiter making a new phase conjunction to Pluto as well as a new phase to Venus in Aries and the North Node of Venus in Aries.

With Venus in Aries, the ruler of his South Node in the 5th in Taurus, there would have been a feeling of being self-important and special, a narcissism that pervaded his aura - his needs would take precedence over the needs of others. This stems from him feeling that his work or focus is more important than whatever is going on around him. Because of this special sense of destiny, it would require a fundamental independence in order to actualize whatever he set out do to. Because of this self focus and at times total disregard for others in the process, it would cause him to attract partners that give him total freedom and do not question his choices. Darwin's commitment was first to himself and because of this he would would never be able to experience a true co-equal partnership, it would be heavily if not totally weighted on his needs and his pursuits in this lifetime, Venus in Aries. It would require a partner who was totally on board his mission, Venus in Aries, ruler Mars in Libra in the 10th squaring the Moon in Capricorn. With Venus in Aries, his passion and excitement surrounding his life's work would keep life elevated and stimulating for his partner and he would rope her in to his plan making her feel as if she were equally a part of things, but he would also periodically totally withdraw into the confines of his mind and isolate himself there, South Node in Taurus, ruler Venus in Aries in the 3rd. This tendency would not be evolving any time soon as his natal Venus in Aries is conjunct his North Node in Aries yet there would be a pressure to return to the family, to work to strike a better balance and it would continually be brought to his attention, via the needs of his children or in the extreme case of the loss of his daughter. This event would have provided the necessary shock to find a way to better balance his priorities with work and family, Venus in Aries, ruler Mars in Libra in the 10th square Moon in Capricorn.

Relationship with self

With Capricorn on the second house cusp, Darwin would have had a deep reflective consciousness and would have been withdrawn, quiet and serious. He would not have allowed himself the luxury of inner joy because of the unresolved grief he carried from other times and his feeling of responsibility linked with the trauma that ensued and because of this would have been in perpetual state of emotional suffering and mourning. With Moon in Capricorn in the second, the natural ruler of his 8th house, the house of the Soul, he had learned to deeply compress his emotions and protect his feelings as a child. This need to control his emotions was because of the lack of support and nurturing and became a survival instinct. Because there was no real actual nurturing as a child by the parents, this would produce a well spring of insecurity so his needs would be buried deep within his subconscious.

Darwin was in a constant state of inner stress, not just from PTSD but from the pressure he put on himself, which would not allow himself to fully be present, whether he was traveling or with family. While he was away he would worry himself sick about family and wonder if they were all safe and ok without him. He would feel responsible for their pain of his being away which would trigger the past when he was not there when they needed him. When he was home, he would be wishing he was off traveling on one of his international adventures and stress about the time lost on his research. As a result he could never really be present anywhere. With Venus in Aries in the 3rd, full phase to Mars in Libra in the 12th, he always wanted to be somewhere else- the grass would always looks greener on the other side of the fence. This would also create a great deal of guilt and self judgement for not being fully present for his children as the ruler of his South Node in the 5th in Taurus is Venus in Aries in the 3rd, Mars in Libra in the 10th, is squaring his Cap Moon and South Nodes of Pluto, Saturn and Venus in his 2nd. The only occasion when Darwin could establish/access that feeling of being totally present was when he was observing something for then he could let his mind go and access the higher octave of Mercury, Uranus. His Pluto/Mercury are making a balsamic conjunction in the 3rd and trining Uranus and the North Node in Scorpio in the 11th. Also, the ruler of his South Node of Uranus in Sag is Jupiter in the 12th in Sag conjunct Neptune, trine Venus in Aries in the 3rd. There are several repeating themes linked with the emotional paradox in his Soul, wanting his freedom and also wanting/needing to be in a relationship. Within this dynamic is about his Soul needing to learn to better balance his priorities, of all the things he was responsible for setting in motion, not just to tend to them when he wanted to.  He would experience this tug a war of emotional extremes throughout his life, all of which inevitably compounded the pre-existing guilt and self punishing tendencies that have trailed him through time.


Some of the repeating themes of are seen here:

Venus in Aries, ruler Mars in Venus
Mars, ruler of his Venus, squaring Moon in Cap and South Nodes of Pluto, Saturn and Venus.
Venus in Aries conjunct North Node of Venus in  ruler Mars in Libra in the 10th.
Venus in Aries, ruler Mars in Libra opposing North Node of Mars in Aries  
Venus in Aries, ruler North Node of Mars in Aries squaring Moon in Cap.


Darwin would have had the tendency to be overly hard on himself and to self judge to an extreme, with Capricorn on the second house cusp, the Moon in Cap also in the 2nd squaring Mars in Libra, ruler Venus in Aries in the 3rd. Darwin would have felt himself to be un-loveable as a result of the residual emotional grief stored in his cells due to his failed responsibility that led to the trauma he caused family, in particular children in another life, Venus in Aries, ruler Mars in Libra in the 10th squaring Moon in Capricorn. He also would have felt guilt for the sexual content that streamed through his mind and Soul because it would not have been "˜acceptable and proper' in the eyes of most so he would have swung from these extremes of being totally free innocent in his private inner tours where he could continually learn about himself and his desires and feeling a true unlimited power in those experiences to the pendulum swinging hard in the other direction, Pluto in Pisces in a new phase to Venus in Aries in the 3rd, ruler, Mars in Libra in the 10th squaring a Capricorn Moon in the 2nd conjunct his South Node of Saturn. So it would be weightlessness upon release followed by a tidal wave of guilt, followed by the Capricorn conditioned question, "What does this mean about me?" The intention would be for him to discover and to learn that his mind could be a way of liberating him sexually as Mars, the ruler of his Venus in Aries is trining his Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd house, ruler Uranus in Scorpio conjunct the North Node in the 11th. Also Aquarius in on the 3rd house cusp where Venus in Aries resides. With Venus in Aries in the 3rd he will relate to himself inwardly through the nature of what he is thinking in any given moment.

I imagine he would instinctually have had a great deal of confidence in what his mind could produce, Venus in Aries in the 3rd, understanding also that he was ultimately a conduit for an eternal well of knowledge. This understanding would have induced a trust in the constant flow of content that would spill from on high and into the ethers of his consciousness. But no sooner was he feeling this confident stream would the feeling of self doubt cancel out the rush of this convincing creative ingenuity. With Lucifer in Virgo in his 10th house forming an inconjunct to Venus in Aries in the 3rd, considering evil lodges itself where we are most vulnerable, these feelings of inadequacy would occur through his work, as well as the ideas floating in his mind as Lucifer also makes an opposition to Mercury in Pisces. This would result in his thinking that his ideas were not well founded or even crazy, especially if they were coming out of him as if he were unworthy for the role. He would struggle with this feeling of 'not being enough' in his work and at home because of Lucifer having a way of creating a self undermining effect, this feeling would also be a result of not being able to bring his whole self to the moment, so restless by nature and a part of him always wanting to be elsewhere.  

Evolutionarily speaking it is the people, I would consider Darwin to be one of them, that "˜have it' that "˜don't know they have it' or doubt they have it and that ultimately do not want the spot light and the glory, these are the Souls that are granted with the capacity and consciousness by God to be messengers of truth for the 'natural' world. As Darwin's relationship with God evolved so would his relationship with himself as he would have progressively learned to let himself off the hook, however not totally, but he would have learned that forgiveness would be the only way back to healing and ultimately back to God. His Soul's objective in this life would have been to form a brand new relationship with himself Venus in a new phase to Pluto in Pisces, to create new grooves in the record of his Soul and new grooves in the record of his mind. The healing of the natural God must come first, for when his understanding of a natural God was recovered, removing the patriarchal judging God from the equation, there there would be hope for his own healing to happen. With a Moon in Cap in the 2nd conjunct the South Nodes of Pluto, Saturn and Venus also Capricorn on the 2nd house cusp, ruler Saturn in Sag conjunct Pluto in the 12th, there is a focus on releasing his Soul from the hold of the guilt collected that is linked with religious conditioning, other wise known as learned guilt. The natural guilt however will remain as this will be in place to always be reminded of a path he does not want to return to, so certain choices leading to trauma for himself and others are not made again. These are symbols of the need for SELF FORGIVENESS and ultimately SELF ACCEPTANCE which must occur in order for his Soul to evolve as Neptune, higher octave of Venus, is balsamic to Saturn in Sagittarius in the 12th, and they are squaring Pluto in Pisces, the sign that Neptune, the planet of healing, naturally rules.

Emotional Paradox

With Venus in Aries, and the ruler Mars in Libra, the emotional paradox is at an extreme in terms of his need for relationship but also this intense need for freedom, with Pluto forming a new phase to that Venus. The need for a relationship would have outweighed his need for freedom however for a few reasons. He was afraid of being alone, and of dying alone, being left to seep in his own grief and pain of the past. He also knew that the only way through would be to partner with someone he could lean on and depend on for emotional support, Venus in Aries, ruler Mars in Libra in the 10th squaring Moon in Cap, South Nodes of Pluto Saturn and Venus in the 2nd. He and his wife had also traveled through time together, Mercury ruler of the 7th house cusp balsalmic to Pluto in the 3rd in Pisces, squaring the ruler Neptune and Saturn in Sag in the 12th. They suffered traumas of not only losing one another but also their children so it was essential to culminate this theme so they both could heal and evolve. In addition to the evolutionary need to recover the Souls of children they had lost together, Darwin expressed one of the reasons for having children and creating a family was so they could take care of him when he was old. But beyond the basic care that is required upon aging was his need for constant validation and love, South Node in Taurus in the 5th, ruler Venus in Aries in the 3rd trine Saturn and Neptune in the 12th which would have a way as serving as balm for the lack of nurturing he experienced when he was young but also for the emotional wounds endured because of his own mistakes as a result of restless distraction and being pulled away by his work in other times.

With the South Node in the 5th and the ruler Venus in Aries in the 3rd, Darwin would need a partner who would make him the center of her universe, yet because of his Venus is in Aries he would attract someone as strong willed as he was, which he needed, in order to be consistently challenged to grow and to keep things fresh and new. He would have required that with a loaded 3rd house as he could easily become bored and lose interest. It would have been the spirit of his partners independent mind that kept him engaged and the fire of attraction burning.  

The Venus in Aries signature in Darwin's chart would reflect a kind of compromise with respect to partnership and love. The emotional paradox also connects to Souls attracting people who meet some of their needs but not all so it guarantees them an exit point. Darwin would not desire to leave this partnership, he was too evolutionarily invested and dependent on their like minded bond, also with Moon in Capricorn he valued commitment but he would create his own temporary exit point by leaving the family in order to travel and pursue his own desires that were independent of them. He would however share these adventures upon return and the pendulum would swing back in the other direction. He would need his partner to be ALL IN. With Mercury on the 7th house cusp and the ruler balsalmic to Pluto in the third and balsalmic to Venus in Aries as well, he would need to share everything about his travels. His need to talk was linked with his own need for feedback and validation, South Node in the 5th, ruler Venus in Aries in the 3rd. Because of his own feelings of inadequacy, Lucifer in Virgo in the 10th opposing the Pisces stellium, squaring the ruler Neptune and Saturn in the 12th, he would not trust his own intuition because of his permeating self doubt, and needed the validation of his partner. It would be more important to marry someone, in this case his blood cousin, who knew him as well as anybody and shared like minded interests, Mercury is the ruler of the 7th house cusp and sits in the 3rd house basalmic to Pluto and Venus. This Mercury also trines Uranus in Scorpio on the North node in the 11th, extended family. He chose to marry his cousin because of the family values they were raised with which was an independence of thinking, a family who encouraged free thought and to always be questioning what it is you think you already know. With Venus in Aries in the 3rd, he valued independent thinking and valued this quality in a partner, an independent thinker herself. Gemini is on the 7th house cusp and the ruler Mercury is in Pisces in the 3rd balsalmic to Pluto. Venus is in a new phase to Pluto in Pisces suggesting he would need a partner who could not only hold a mirror up to him but someone who was strong enough and confident enough to challenge his thoughts keeping him in a constant state growth. His partner was the first one to lay eyes on his manuscript and so he needed this absolute trust in her intellectual capacity and in her OBJECTIVE feedback.

His freedom and his need to travel at will and on a whim at times was necessary to advance his research would have been his first love and his front priority and his partner would have to accept this and understand. There was a safety in seeking love in the arms of family but there was also a long history between them with the ruler of his 7th house being Mercury and this is making a balsamic conjunction to Pluto in the 3rd, Mercury also being balsalmic to his Venus in Aries. Darwin would also keep a deep part of himself isolated from his partner even when they were together as it would create a space of inner freedom for him to always return to when necessary. He would need a strong partner to match his inherent passion for life and discovery, one that could hold her own and be as strong as he needed her to be especially when the chips were down. He did give his wife the final transcript of "On the Origin of the species" shouldering her with the ultimate responsibility of whether or not it was mailed and delivered and landing into the right hands. This act was his surrender of the burden he carried and also his need to share the weight of responsibility with her, for them to be partner together in this commitment to advancing the mainstream thought and understanding of the natural world.. His wife's follow-through also reflected her true conviction in his message and life's work, Venus in Aries, ruler Mars in Libra in the 10th, squaring the Moon in Capricorn in the 2nd. His partner would need to be in place to support him, to give him children and to take over when he had nothing left. Beyond a marriage, it was also business partnership and bonded by a blood line that kept them rooted in the same values. He would have needed to feel a timeless trust in his partner, Pluto balsalmic to mercury, ruler of the 7th house, especially because of the magnitude of what was destined to be put on the planet. Venus in Aries Souls naturally attract partners who are as self focused as themselves, but considering the times and the woman's role in the marriage and the home there was undoubtedly a natural submission by his wife because there were children to consider and her front line responsibility would be them. However his partner would have gained a certain sense of power and status simply by association, his partner would have naturally accumulated a sense of importance via her marriage to him and the role she played in this ground breaking work. No doubt the partner he would attract would have had some of her own controlling tendencies as he would have naturally been drawn to her strength and self reliance, as well as her ability to be run the household on her own while he was away, Venus in Aries in the 3rd, ruler Mars in Libra in the 10 square Moon in Capricorn in the 2nd. He needed a partner that could take charge before he even thought to ask for the need for her to do so. This would have the effect of freeing him up knowing things were all under control when he slipped away in his work distractions.

Ultimately and most important of all, he would need a partner who would love him unconditionally, "Mercury in Pisces, ruler of his 7th balsamic to Pluto in Pisces, and Venus in Aries."For better and for worse, until death do we part -Moon in Cap in the second, ruler Saturn in the 12th trining Venus in Aries, also needing a partner who was as committed as he was. The hopeless romantic is also seen with his South Node in the 5th ruler Venus in Aries, trine Neptune in Sag in the 12th, the ruler of his Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd.

I recently heard a country song that reminded me of the kind of love he needed.

She loves me like Jesus does
All the crazy in my dreams,
Both my broken wings,
Every single piece of everything I am,
Yeah, she knows the man I ain't,
She forgives me when I can't,
And the devil man, he don't stand a chance,
Cause she loves me like Jesus does.

Mercury, ruler of the the 7th house cusp, is in Pisces and making a balsamic conjunction to Pluto in the 3rd and opposes Lucifer. Mercury in Pisces is also balsalmic to Venus in Aries.

Darwin would have bouts where his passionate Venus in Aries would display with validating love and energy. Darwin would have gotten bored easily and would have needed to keep the connection and his life with his wife stimulated and moving forward in some way, most of which would have occurred through the advancement of his work, and perhaps she being at his side as an at home editor. I can see the Venus in Aries passion being shared through the evolution of the discoveries and the documented findings with his loaded 3rd house, including Mercury, the ruler of his 7th house.

A note on LILITH

In man's chart Original Lilith connects to a man's ideal image of a woman. With Original Lilith in the 5th in Taurus conjunct his South Node, this this would reflect his need for a partner who has come through his recent past, someone that he grew up with, also a partner who has traveled through time and shared his same experience with culture and family reflected in the South Node in Taurus, ruler Venus in Aries, ruler Mars in Libra in the 10th. He would revere a woman who is self reliant, steady, strong and patient. He would need a partner who thinks the world of him and one who makes him her everything but who still maintains her own individuals passions and creative pursuits and one who could challenge him at every turn, ruler of the Lilith in Taurus is Venus in Aries in the 3rd. This also re-states his 5th house need for a partner who would make him the center of her universe and who would be fertile and produce as many children as possible. She would also need to share his passion for the environment and earth forms as well for his work on evolution. Lilith in Taurus in the 5th is sextiling his Pluto in the 3rd balasmic to Mercury, he would need a partner who would be able to tune into what he was thinking and feeling without even needing to  ask, seamlessly sensitive to his inner space and one who was able to harmonize with him intellectually and validate him whenever was needed. His ideal would be a woman who could also validate him emotionally simply through her tender encouraging touch, Taurus, and to know what he needed and when, never hesitating to take the lead when necessary. With Lilith in Taurus, ruler Venus in Aries in the 3rd, Lilith also opposing Uranus in Scorpio, this would represent his ideal being a partner who could care less about what other people thought of her, a true individual and an independent woman , free at her core, who cares most about expressing her most natural honest self, Lilith in Taurus, ruler Venus in Aries in the 3rd trining Saturn and Neptune in Sagittarius. In essence as all asteroids signatures prove to provide, is further support what we are already seeing in the chart.

With Resolution Lilith in Gemini in the 7th trining Chiron in the 2nd and the MC, this family connection and love found through a connection as cousins, ruler Mercury in the 3rd trining Uranus in Scorpio in the 11th, would prove to heal many of the broken roads of the past. It is also important to note here that often time Souls will choose to be born into the same family or extended family in order to guarantee proximity, in this case also to guarantee not only a like minded upbringing that allowed for free thinking, but one that allowed them to bring everything full circle and heal the past.


Sexually speaking Darwin would have had a strong instinctual sexual magnetism and this would have emanated from the root of being, Pluto in Pisces in a new phase to Venus in Aries. With the ruler Mars being in Libra in the 10th and squaring a Moon in Cap, this energy would have been used in order to secure the attention of his partner, however their intimacy would have carried a more traditional tone and my sense is there would be periods of relative frequency, perhaps only with the intention to conceive, mixed with long dry spells when Darwin's mind would take precedence bombarding all other tendencies, even the sexual instinct to procreate and merge. This withdrawal of sexual energy would also be a result of controlling the relationship so there would not be a threat of enmeshment so his first priority, his need for freedom would be maintained. Within this need for freedom also contains a need for sexual freedom which could be safely tended to in the endless spaces in his mind where the act of watching would water the repressed sexual earth in his Soul. He would value sexual openness because of his innocent curiosity in the sense of mentally entertaining a myriad pf possibilities but there would never be any physical follow through. With Capricorn on the 2nd house cusp, he would be naturally monogamous and also value the power of commitment. By nature a second house Capricorn is naturally a deep sexual archetype. If he chose to explore bringing down his Capricorn barriers and experiencing any sort of intimacy beyond having sex simply for procreation, with Capricorn on the 2nd house cusp and a Moon in Capricorn, he would need some time warming up sexually by hugging and touching to slowly soften all of what he was holding up and back but when ample time was allowed, an entire new universe would open up and healing could happen with the ruler of the 2nd house cusp, Saturn, being in Sag and balsalmic to Neptune in the 12th. Once he had de-thawed his physical body, he would need the sexual act whether alone, which would have occurred far more often, or with his partner, to be long and sustained. The longer the sexual act is sustained the deeper the Capricorn archetype can go because with time the emotions are ignited and layer by layer the holding is peeled away. He would desire sexual intensity because the degree of intensity would directly correspond to the unlocking of his feelings, needs and emotions. However with Venus in Aries in the 3rd,  this reflects 'quicker' sex so to speak and would interrupt his deepest need for the sustained experience. With a history of repression and conditioning, his Moon in Capricorn in the 2nd conjunct the South nodes of Pluto, Saturn and Venus, sex would have occurred with the lights out, under the covers and possibly while being clothed only exposing what was necessary. Following sexual intimacy if he allowed himself to emotionally let go on any level, he would also need to be held like a child in the fetal position with his Moon in Capricorn in the 2nd as well as the polarity being Cancer in his 8th in order for his Soul to feel nurtured and safe following allowing greater expression of vulnerability. With Moon in Capricorn in the 2nd and the Moon naturally ruling the 8th house, in order for evolution to proceed on this level the polarity must be embraced to allow the inner wounded child to be healed.

Venus in Aries in a new phase to Pluto in Pisces, also Venus being the ruler of his South Node in the 5th, Darwin would be like a child innocent in his sexual explorations, similar to exploring virgin territory, most of which would occur in his mind as his need for diversity was so strong and intense, Venus in Aries in a new phase for Pluto in the 3rd trining Uranus in Scorpio, this bold, expressive spontaneity was more safely satisfied in this way. His mind would entertain him, like a defacto act of voyeurism with an imagination that would stimulate his senses and induce sexual spontaneity leading to self pleasure and masturbation.These inner travels would teach him what images ignited what feelings and senses and who he was as a sexual being. However this mental orientation to sex would create a detachment which would lead to feeling sexually frustrated because of always observing versus actively engaging. It would be impossible to become emotionally engaged during sex because he was always 'in his head' and detached from the physical experience.

Even yet, he may have been more reserved however than where his mind was egging him on to travel as his Venus in Aries, is ruled by a 10th house Mars in Libra which squared his Moon in Capricorn. He may have felt guilty for some of the desires that natural lit him up due to his religious conditioning, for whatever is repressed becomes distorted, and he would have repressed countless desires and natural ways of  sexual expression, this occurring for lifetimes. It would be as if someone opened the feeling physical flood gates following electing to spend certain lives sexually locked up in monastic environments as his Soul's way of repenting, he would have also denied himself the gift of a sexual release in other times as a way of self punishment and persecution for his distractions that led to family tragedy as was discussed in prior posts. This is re-stated with the Moon in Cap in the 2nd conjunct the South Nodes of Saturn, Pluto, and Venus and the Moon squaring Mars in Libra in the 10th, the ruler of his Venus in Aries. So the build up in him sexually would have been immense similar to a concrete dam holding back the sea. In his life as Darwin, he would have had to regularly masturbate in order to stay emotionally balanced and stable because of all the emotional repression that would have created added pressure, Venus in Aries, ruler Mars in Libra in the 10th trines his 2nd house Sun in Aquarius. This would have provided a channel for energetic relief and release. The guilt would always follow however, no self pleasuring ever came free Venus in Aries in the 3rd, ruler Venus is Mars in Libra in the 10th squaring his Moon in Capricorn, ruler Saturn and Jupiter in Sag squaring Pluto. His essential sexual needs/fantasies would have also been kept a secret from his partner because the residual conditioning resulted in harsh self judgement for these sexual desires, not only "what does this mean about me" but also "what would she think of me"? and so he created a safe container to store these erotic longings and would return to the private inner movie screen. He may have inwardly explored the wildly unusual with Aquarius on his 3rd house cusp, the ruler Uranus in Scorpio in the 11th conjunct the North Node and trine his Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd, also the Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd trining his 10th house Mars in Libra, ruler Venus in Aries in the 3rd, and his Soul demanded full freedom to watch and witness everything and anything that had been building and had been denied, to rebel against his own mind and the sexual prison it created in the past, ruler of his Venus in Aries is Mars in Libra in the 10th trining a 2nd house Sun in Aquarius. This would have also been his way of getting in touch with the diversity of his own natural instincts and desires by VIEWING and exploring it all in his own sweet time, Capricorn on the 2nd house cusp, and then choosing which images he would want to return to and which scenes had the deepest hold on him. His way of somewhat backing himself out of the guilt would have been an "its ok to look but not touch scenario".

Sexually speaking with respect to his partner, intimacy with extended family is seen with the ruler of his South Node in Taurus being Venus in Aries in the 3rd, Balsalmic to Mercury, the ruler of his 7th cusp. Also Venus in Aries in the 3rd, Aquarius sits on the 3rd house cusp, ruler of his Venus is Mars in Libra in the 10th sextiles his South Node of Mars in Sag and squares Moon in Cap, going against the sexual norm. With Aquarius on his 3rd house cusp Darwin would be liberating himself and rebelling against common values and relationship forms. For Darwin he followed what felt like for him was the natural fit. Mercury, ruler of his 7th cusp is also trining Uranus in Scorpio in the 11th conjunct his North Node in Scorpio in the 11th. Even though he may have followed his instinct with his cousin as his chosen partner he still would have gotten caught up in what other people thought and felt the projections of the patriarchal mentality that their way was the "right  or proper way" to relate. The guilt as result of how his own residual conditioning and wanting to "˜appear' normal and be accepted with the ruler of his Venus in Aries being Mars in Libra in the 10th, would have not allowed him to be totally free sexually with her or fully access his South Node of Mars in Sag but that day in another lifetime is coming as his North Node of Mars is in Aries and will trine his South Node of Mars in Sagittarius in the first, ruler of his Venus in Aries and North Node of Venus in Aries.


EXPECTATIONS

With Venus in Aries there is an instinctual need of feeling special and since Venus is the ruler of his South Node, there is this feeling they everything should revolve around him and his needs.This Venus in Aries, especially with it being the ruler of a South Node in Taurus in the 5th would have generated maximum self indulgence in his own personal needs. This is re-stated further with the ruler of his Venus in Aries being Mars in Libra in terms of having instinctual expectations, Libra and with the square to his Moon in Capricorn, when they are not met, anger would be the result. Also whenever his freedom was threatened in any way, anger would also follow. With Venus in Aries being the ruler of the South Node in the 5th can lead to a self indulging to the point of eclipsing the partners needs and keeping his own needs in full focus and plain view. He would expect that the partner's needs take the backseat to his own. He would expect to be in "˜control of the clock'  in charge of how he chose to use his time and when, Venus in Aries is balsalmic to Mercury, the ruler of his 7th house cusp. The ruler of his Venus in Aries, ruler Mars in Libra in the 10th squaring the moon in Cap, ruler Saturn trining Venus in Aries..  With such an extremity of energy with respect to his need for independence and his need to be in relationships, his Soul is learning how to strike a better balance and to not just form relationships based on how others can serve him but for him to give equally to those that he forms connections to.


In essence, the evolutionary intention with respect to Darwin's relationship with himself and though extension with God, which will in turn impact and improve his relationship with others starts with unlocking his loaded 2nd house with a Moon in Cap conjunct the South Nodes of Pluto, Saturn and Venus, squaring Mars in Libra in the 10th which opposes his Venus in Aries. It starts within, with his inner relationship to himself and will require him to embrace the polarity in Cancer in the 8th house. He would need to reflect deeply on the nature of his psychological imprinting created by his parental environment and the society he was born into that has impacted upon him and how this has shaped and defined his self image and sense of self. So the intention is to create a new self image that is free of the shackles and chains, one that will totally alter his inner relationship with himself thus changing his inner vibratory nature and all that he attracts moving forward. He will learn how to forgive himself, ruler of his second being Saturn in Sag conjunct Neptune, the higher octave of Venus, in the 12th. Via the polarity of Capricorn, Cancer in the 8th he will learn to relate to himself with softer more forgiving strokes, to feel deep within himself the needs and emotions that have been arrested as a result of his conditioning and fears of rejection and judgment. He will need to go back, to heal the inner child, in order to move forward again. Once he learns how to self nurture and emotionally self provide which includes tuning into the natural God for sustainment and support, 12th house, Neptune and the higher octave of Venus, his sense of entitlement and expectations of others will fall away. He will in time find a way to find balance in relationship, participating because he wants to not because he needs to or because of what others can do for him, Venus in Aries in the 3rd, ruler Mars in Libra in the 10th. The cardinal Axis and planets in cardinal signs is energetically peaking which includes his North Node of Venus also being in Aries as well as the ruler North Node of Mars being in Aries suggesting it will take an extreme to counteract the extremity of the imbalance. Perhaps one example of this would be reflected in the possibility of a gender switch that would allow for him to integrate more deeply his feminine emotional side. Not only is the polarity of his Moon in Capricorn in Cancer in the 8th, it is conjunct the North Nodes of Pluto and Saturn in Cancer. Darwin's North Node of Mars, the ruler of his natal Venus in Aries is also in Aries in the 4th house, representing a new gender cycle. Whether he reincarnates as a male or a female, for personal evolution to take place, he will need to soften and become vulnerable in every way, in order to establish necessary balance and to experience inner strength once again - he will discover that ultimate strength as well as healing lies in the vulnerability!

peace & gratitude,
kristin
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Jun 03, 2013, 09:22 PM
Thank you so much for your feedback Rad, I really appreciate that.
With much love, am
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Post by: mirta on Jun 04, 2013, 08:22 AM
Hi Rad and Group
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Some thoughts about Darwin's Venus

With Venus in Aries in 3rd house the Soul has been initiating in the last lifetimes a new cycle of personal development regarding his values, inner relationship and relationships with others.
Freedom is the necessary condition to this cycle's actualization together with initiative and flexibility.
"I am not apt to follow blindly the lead of other men"
"It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change."

SURVIVAL:
2nd house reflects difficulties in survival: trauma and guilt for not having been present when family members needed him in order to survive; persecutions that make difficult to metaphorically "survive"  in a patriarchal society while questioning its consensus beliefs, previously accepted by the Soul (SNs in Cap, Mars in 10th house square these SNs, Venus in Aries inconjunct Uranus conjunct NN in Scorpio in 11th house), and free survival of this beliefs (Jupiter NP conjunct Pluto, ruler Neptune conjunct Saturn in 12th house).
For this Soul survival of beliefs equals Soul's survival; survival of beliefs linked to Natural Law and consequent evolution of consensus beliefs is priority in the Soul's intention, goal and meaning (Venus in 3rd house in a stellium with Pluto in Pisces conjunct Jupiter and ruled by Neptune in Sag, PPP in 9th house Virgo conjunct Urania and NN Sophia, Pluto 12th ruler, its ruler in 12th house, Venus trine Saturn Neptune in 12th house, PP in 9th house).
What are then the values that derive from and grant survival and meaning?

VALUES
Truth and Honesty
When he was asking marriage to Emma, his father advised him not to say anything about his beliefs, but he decided to be sincere.
To his friend J. D. Hooker, he wrote:"I thank God because you are one of the few men that dare to say the truth.", also that search for fame produce regrettable facts, while love for truth would never cause that a man would bitterly attack another.
Darwin had not stumbled upon truth; rather he had diligently uncovered it through a meticulous, analytic process of everything from ancient fossils to the lung capacity of flightless kiwi birds."False facts are highly injurious to the progress of science, for they often endure long; but false views, if supported by some evidence, do little harm, for everyone takes a salutory pleasure in proving their falseness; and when this is done, one path toward errors is closed and the road to truth is often at the same time opened." (Venus trine Saturn and Neptune in Sag, PP in 9th house, inconjunct NN in Scorpio).

Moon in Cap in 2nd house reflects defense of pain, to it  the Soul choose repressing his emotions, even at risk of being always physically ill, but not repressing freedom, courage or manifestation of truth.
The superior goal of unveiling and reveling the truth based on Natural Law led him to adopting as survival needs reflection, discipline, caution and prudence as a way of not creating more pain for himself and others and for attaining the goal of revolutionizing consensus values through his searching and theories.

Intellectual honesty
"[Darwin] ... was one of the least combative of men and was forced into the position of challenging orthodoxy by intellectual honesty and the desire to substantiate a scientific theory; he did not... actively enjoy thumbing his nose at the theologians." (2nd house ruler Saturn in Sag, Venus trine Saturn, PP Venus in 9th house in Libra, ruler Mars in Libra)
Change in response to environmental limitations or changes
"It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change."
It is not the strongest, even not the fittest (actually a Spencer's statement) as it was said; indeed survival is related to a individual response, a reaction (3rd house) to experiences of environmental limitation (Cap, Venus trine Sat) by means of transformation of a limitation, a mutation (Scorpio NN) and posterior transmission and conservation of these changes, or improvement, by procreation (Taurus in 6th house).  
Ultimate meaning with Scorpio in 12th house is linked to evolution, to transformation of limitations, while in Taurus survival is linked to procreation, on Scorpio is evolution that ensures survival.

Freedom and Equality (especially race equality)
(Venus in Aries ruled by Mars in Libra in 10th house square SNs in Cap, PP in Libra in 9th house)
Contrary to what it has been said about Darwin's racism, his statements show that he was not, and actually an abolitionist.
In the complete title of Darwin's seminal work; On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection or the Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life, the reference to "favored races" was not a reference to human races per se, Darwin barely mentioned humans at all in this book. Rather it was merely a reference to localized variations within a species (generic), which may, in a changing environment, grant greater survival value.
Regarding humans, he stated: "It may be doubted whether any character can be named which is distinctive of a race and is constant." (On the Races of Man")
"There is good evidence that the art of shooting with bows and arrows has not been handed down from any common progenitor of mankind, yet the stone arrow-heads, brought from the most distant parts of the world and manufactured at the most remote periods, are, as Nilsson has shewn, almost identical; and this fact can only be accounted for by the various races having similar inventive or mental powers."(On the Races of Man)
"Now when naturalists observe a close agreement in numerous small details of habits, tastes and dispositions between two or more domestic races, or between nearly-allied natural forms, they use this fact as an argument that all are descended from a common progenitor who was thus endowed; and consequently that all should be classed under the same species. The same argument may be applied with much force to the races of man."

Slavery:
"I was told before leaving England, that after living in slave countries: all my options would be altered; the only alteration I am aware of is forming a much higher estimate of the Negros character. It is impossible to see a negro & not feel kindly toward him; such cheerful, open honest expressions & such fine muscular bodies; I never saw any of the diminutive Portuguese with their murderous countenances, without almost wishing for Brazil to follow the example of Haiti; & considering the enormous healthy looking black population, it will be wonderful if at some future day it does not take place. "• (to Catherine Darwin, 1833)
"I feel glad that this happened in the land of the Brazilians, for I bear them no good will - a land also of slavery, and therefore of moral debasement...On the 19th of August we finally left the shores of Brazil, I thank God, I shall never again visit a slave-country. To this day, if I hear a distant scream, it recalls with painful vividness my feelings, when passing a house near Pernambuco, I heard the most pitiable moans, and could not but suspect that some poor slave was being tortured, yet knew that I was as powerless as a child even to remonstrate. I suspected that these moans were from a tortured slave, for I was told that this was the case in another instance."
". . . if the misery of our poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin; but how this bears on slavery, I cannot see; . . . Those who look tenderly at the slave owner, and with a cold heart at the slave, never seem to put themselves into the position of the latter; what a cheerless prospect, with not even a hope of change! picture to yourself the chance, ever hanging over you, of your wife and your little children - those objects which nature urges even the slave to call his own - being torn from you and sold like beasts to the first bidder! And these deeds are done and palliated by men, who profess to love their neighbours as themselves, who believe in God, and pray that his Will be done on earth! It makes one's blood boil, yet heart tremble, to think that we Englishmen and our American descendants, with their boastful cry of liberty, have been and are so guilty. . ." The Voyage of the Beagle (1839)
"Some few, & I am one, even and wish to God, though at the loss of millions of lives, that the North would proclaim a crusade against Slavery. . . Great God how I should like to see the greatest curse on Earth Slavery abolished. "• Letter to Asa Gray,1861),


It is interesting to note that Darwin was born the same day that Lincoln. And this not only point out what the souls may share, but also that he expressed and catalyzed a process already underway in the collective unconscious (all those planets in Pisces, including Pluto ruler of 12th house; ruler Neptune in Sag in 12th house conjunct Saturn ruler of Moon, 2nd house cusp and all SNs, including Venus, and natural ruler of Venus ruler Mars in 10th house).  

INNER NATURE OF VENUS:
"The inner nature of Venus correlates to how we are inwardly relating to ourselves, and how we go about uniting inwardly discordants aspects of our overall nature of personality." (Pluto 2, pag. 127)
Inner relation to himself:
Although we see guilt and repression in his 2nd house Moon, Venus reflects freedom in his inner relation, and courage to bear self-doubt and paradoxical needs and behavior, letting them to coexist (ruler Mars in Libra).  
His individualism and need of loneliness coexisted with his emotional need of his wife, his independence coexisted with his awareness of interdependence. He was hesitant and self doubting, even in his views and beliefs, however firm in affirming them after seriously improving them (Venus in 3rd house, ruler Mars in Libra, Taurus 6th house)  
The balsamic semi- sextile to SN reflects his challenge to let go of narcissism and progressively replacing it  by humility and care for the other; trauma, acknowledgement of its causes and responsibility allowed to understand the purpose of his social role and commitment to his higher ideal, understanding and promoting collective evolution. (Venus balsamic semi-sextile SN, inconjunct NN conjunct Uranus in Scorpio in 11th house)    
The goal of transforming limitations, pushing limits in order to evolve in direction to truth and Natural Law is the beacon that led his intention of uniting, or at least letting to coexist inwardly discordants aspects of his personality.
To it he needed to surrender pain, fear, and sometimes independence, especially regarding family life.

Family Life
With Venus in Aries in 3rd house, freedom and independence is basic in all his relationships with others. However, the paradoxical and sometimes conflictive aspects of his inner relationship of course influenced these relationships.
Family is an important focus of identity with Vesta in 4th house as it is an inner feeling of duty and dedication. Trauma and guilt increases responsibility and dedication.
The Soul's intention to accept responsibility and make amends guided the choice of Ceres and Juno in Pisces that reflects prior and current losses but also a compassionate and empathic attitude to family, that correlates with the inherent ability to listen and consider the other's needs (ruler Mars in Libra).
Moon in Cap also suggest a fatherly ego, which despite the repressed emotions could manifest through responsibility, commitment, care for material needs and moral guide, role traditionally attributed to the father. This was may be the way to express Soul's profound (unconditional?) love (Pluto, Ceres and Juno in Pisces, Venus trine Saturn conjunct Neptune in 12th house)

Within this, his relationship with his wife merits a special consideration. Here the "feminine" aspects of the Soul, the different aspects of his anima interweave in a different way.
The displaced emotional needs reflected in his Cap Moon, ruler of his 8th house, and lived in this lifetime through the loss of the mother, created an emotional dependency of her, sometimes childlike. In 1848, with 39 years old he wrote her a letter saying:  "My dearest old Mammy ... Without you, when sick I feel most desolate  ... Oh Mammy I do long to be with you and under your protection for then I feel safe."
In medical reports about his panic, was stated that Darwin felt "nervousness when Emma leaves me".
However, even while Emma told him that she was sad that their opinions on the most important subject should differ widely ...  and although they never were able to see eye-to-eye on the question of religion and God, he kept his views and in the end, each of them accepted and, it seems, truly understood what the other believed. (Venus in Aries in 3rd house, ruler Mars in Libra, PP in Libra in 9th house)
The Venus balsamic semi-sextile to SN and the trine to Saturn and Neptune, rulers of Moon, Ceres and Juno, as well as the Libra rulership is reflected in his saying to Emma before their wedding: "Excuse this much egotism, I give it to you, because I think you will humanise me, and soon teach me there is greater happiness, than building theories and accumulating facts in silence and solitude." It was also an acknowledgment of her importance in uniting inwardly discordants aspects of his personality.
Anima as contrasexual archetype:
I believe that Venus, as inner feminine side of a man, shares with Moon the aspect of Anima, especially as contrasexual archetype.
Analogous to Venus, inner and outer relationship archetype, Anima according to Jung ". . . is the caricature of feminine Eros . . . Eros is an interlacing. . . Eros is relationship. . ." (CW 13), and ". . . the anima transforms itself, by integration, in the Eros of the consciousness . . . the anima imprints a relation and a polarity to man's consciousness. . . "
Independent Venus conjunct Vesta (and modulated by Mars in Libra) balances the emotional dependency making him able to establish an equality relationship with his wife, according to his evolutionary stage.
Mars in Libra ruling Venus and its NN, as well as the semi-sextile to SN reflect the intention of letting go of the past narcissism and opening to the other's needs becoming more flexible; the intention of flexibility in relationships is also suggested by R.L. in Gemini in 7th house.
Venus in Mar's sign while Mars is in her sign, suggests an advanced integration between masculine and feminine aspects, - an evolved anima searching and inner equality and balance - reflected in his marriage in which he not only lived a displaced emotional need, but also mutual respect, that also manifested in his wife's attitude to his work and his following her opinion regarding it.
In this aspect I also see what Upasika pointed out regarding a preparation for a gender shift.
Rad, Venus as anima is correct from a EA point of view?
Thank you for your guidance
God Bless
Mirta








Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Jun 04, 2013, 08:58 AM
Hi Rad,

I am working on mine but have had many disruptions. Hopefully I'll be able to get it posted tomorrow - sorry for the holdup and thanks for being so patient.

blessings Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Jun 04, 2013, 10:27 AM
Hi Kristin,

Thank you for making this incredible effort to understand the EA of why Darwin chose to have Venus in Aries as well as all the other contributing factors to that Venus in total. Your EA analysis is simply brilliant work in which you have covered all the main issues and dynamics related to the Venus archetype in total. The only dynamic that you missed is the one that correlates to how and listened to others, and how others would listen to him: the psychology of hearing.

Your EA analysis of his sexuality, which is part of the Venus archetype, was spot on that linked all the various inner dynamics within him that manifested in the way that it did.

Your entire EA analysis was extremely comprehensive and in depth, the very depth that the uniqueness of EA provides. Your EA reasoning was utterly sound and completely correct. There were just a couple of instances where you misstated some of the astrological signatures such as his Lucifer being in the 10th, and that he had a full phase Mars/Venus. Of course his Lucifer is in his 9th which only magnifies to type of doubt that you spoke about so clearly and correctly relative to his own intuitions that could plague him from time to time.

This simply brilliant EA work Kristin. This is how EA is meant to be done. And for all those who are following and reading this thread you are also, as with all of our other contributors, helping them learn the correct use and power of EA.

Bravo !!

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Jun 04, 2013, 10:29 AM
Hi Mirta,

We can wait until you have the space to copy and paste the entire text of what you wish too regarding Darwin's Venus. So will wait for that to comment upon.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Kristin on Jun 04, 2013, 11:53 AM
Hi Rad,

Thanks so much for the feedback!

Thank you also for pointing out those corrections. Of course I kicked myself when I realized why I said Venus and Mars in a full phase, I think the reason it occurred was because my entire focus was Venus so I automatically made that planet the lead point in my brain...argh.

Some thoughts on listening and hearing.

With Venus in Aries in the 3rd ruler Mars in the 10th in Libra, this reflects an energy of a 'selective listener', only taking in what applied to him and his interests. I would imagine also however that via listening his mind would instinctually take in as much as he could hold and then sift through what he wanted to keep and what he wanted to toss.  With the ruler of his Venus in Aries being Mars in Libra,  he would be making efforts to hear others and to listen to their needs, he would make them think he was listening, but with North Node also in Venus conjunct his natal Venus in Aries, it would all come back to how his listening could benefit him.

In regards with how others listened to him, they would be 'all ears". He was a natural story teller and could mesmerize people with his words and the sound of his voice with Venus in the 3rd trining Saturn and Neptune in Sag, his voice would carry a deep resonance and combined with the style of metaphor that he would use it would be like taking them on an adventure somewhere, forgetting perhaps at times where they were and what lifetime it was. Even though he had an inherent self doubt with Lucifer in Virgo in the 9th opposing his Mercury and Pluto, also inconjunct his Venus. this was not reflected in how people 'heard him', for he had a natural capacity to draw people in, his passion for where he himself was inwardly exploring would sell them on his story. He spoke with a depth wrapped with mystery and yet very direct in his message. For the listener it would have equaled a total experience, one that evoked feeling and imagination, expanding their own inner universe.


Thanks again Rad, I VALUE you more than I can express!
Your time and dedication here means so much.

Peace,
Kristin

Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: mirta on Jun 04, 2013, 12:44 PM
Hi Rad and Group

Some thoughts about Darwin's Venus

With Venus in Aries in 3rd house the Soul has been initiating in the last lifetimes a new cycle of personal development regarding his values, inner relationship and relationships with others.
Freedom is the necessary condition to this cycle's actualization together with initiative and flexibility.
"I am not apt to follow blindly the lead of other men"
"It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change."

SURVIVAL:
2nd house reflects difficulties in survival: trauma and guilt for not having been present when family members needed him in order to survive; persecutions that make difficult to metaphorically "survive"  in a patriarchal society while questioning its consensus beliefs, previously accepted by the Soul (SNs in Cap, Mars in 10th house square these SNs, Venus in Aries inconjunct Uranus conjunct NN in Scorpio in 11th house), and free survival of this beliefs (Jupiter NP conjunct Pluto, ruler Neptune conjunct Saturn in 12th house).
For this Soul survival of beliefs equals Soul's survival; survival of beliefs linked to Natural Law and consequent evolution of consensus beliefs is priority in the Soul's intention, goal and meaning (Venus in 3rd house in a stellium with Pluto in Pisces conjunct Jupiter and ruled by Neptune in Sag, PPP in 9th house Virgo conjunct Urania and NN Sophia, Pluto 12th ruler, its ruler in 12th house, Venus trine Saturn Neptune in 12th house, PP in 9th house).
What are then the values that derive from and grant survival and meaning?

VALUES
Truth and Honesty
When he was asking marriage to Emma, his father advised him not to say anything about his beliefs, but he decided to be sincere.
To his friend J. D. Hooker, he wrote:"I thank God because you are one of the few men that dare to say the truth.", also that search for fame produce regrettable facts, while love for truth would never cause that a man would bitterly attack another.
Darwin had not stumbled upon truth; rather he had diligently uncovered it through a meticulous, analytic process of everything from ancient fossils to the lung capacity of flightless kiwi birds."False facts are highly injurious to the progress of science, for they often endure long; but false views, if supported by some evidence, do little harm, for everyone takes a salutory pleasure in proving their falseness; and when this is done, one path toward errors is closed and the road to truth is often at the same time opened." (Venus trine Saturn and Neptune in Sag, PP in 9th house, inconjunct NN in Scorpio).

Moon in Cap in 2nd house reflects defense of pain, to it  the Soul choose repressing his emotions, even at risk of being always physically ill, but not repressing freedom, courage or manifestation of truth.
The superior goal of unveiling and reveling the truth based on Natural Law led him to adopting as survival needs reflection, discipline, caution and prudence as a way of not creating more pain for himself and others and for attaining the goal of revolutionizing consensus values through his searching and theories.

Intellectual Honesty
"[Darwin] . . . was one of the least combative of men and was forced into the position od chalenging orthodoxy by intellectual honesty and the desire to substantiate a scientific theory," (2nd house ruler Saturn in Sag, Vernus trine Saturn, PP Venus in 9th house Libra, ruler Mars in LIbra)

Change in response to environmental limitations or changes
"It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change."
It is not the strongest, even not the fittest (actually a Spencer's statement) as it was said; indeed survival is related to a individual response, a reaction (3rd house) to experiences of environmental limitation (Cap, Venus trine Sat) by means of transformation of a limitation, a mutation (Scorpio NN) and posterior transmission and conservation of these changes, or improvement, by procreation (Taurus in 6th house).  
Ultimate meaning with Scorpio in 12th house is linked to evolution, to transformation of limitations, while in Taurus survival is linked to procreation, on Scorpio is evolution that ensures survival.


Freedom and Equality (especially race equality)
(Venus in Aries ruled by Mars in Libra in 10th house square SNs in Cap, PP in Libra in 9th house)
Contrary to what it has been said about Darwin's racism, his statements show that he was not, and actually an abolitionist.
In the complete title of Darwin's seminal work; On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection or the Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life, the reference to "favored races" was not a reference to human races per se, Darwin barely mentioned humans at all in this book. Rather it was merely a reference to localized variations within a species (generic), which may, in a changing environment, grant greater survival value.
Regarding humans, he stated: "It may be doubted whether any character can be named which is distinctive of a race and is constant." (On the Races of Man")
"There is good evidence that the art of shooting with bows and arrows has not been handed down from any common progenitor of mankind, yet the stone arrow-heads, brought from the most distant parts of the world and manufactured at the most remote periods, are, as Nilsson has shewn, almost identical; and this fact can only be accounted for by the various races having similar inventive or mental powers."(On the Races of Man)
"Now when naturalists observe a close agreement in numerous small details of habits, tastes and dispositions between two or more domestic races, or between nearly-allied natural forms, they use this fact as an argument that all are descended from a common progenitor who was thus endowed; and consequently that all should be classed under the same species. The same argument may be applied with much force to the races of man."

Slavery:
"I was told before leaving England, that after living in slave countries: all my options would be altered; the only alteration I am aware of is forming a much higher estimate of the Negros character. It is impossible to see a negro & not feel kindly toward him; such cheerful, open honest expressions & such fine muscular bodies; I never saw any of the diminutive Portuguese with their murderous countenances, without almost wishing for Brazil to follow the example of Haiti; & considering the enormous healthy looking black population, it will be wonderful if at some future day it does not take place. "• (to Catherine Darwin, 1833)
"I feel glad that this happened in the land of the Brazilians, for I bear them no good will - a land also of slavery, and therefore of moral debasement...On the 19th of August we finally left the shores of Brazil, I thank God, I shall never again visit a slave-country. To this day, if I hear a distant scream, it recalls with painful vividness my feelings, when passing a house near Pernambuco, I heard the most pitiable moans, and could not but suspect that some poor slave was being tortured, yet knew that I was as powerless as a child even to remonstrate. I suspected that these moans were from a tortured slave, for I was told that this was the case in another instance."
". . . if the misery of our poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin; but how this bears on slavery, I cannot see; . . . Those who look tenderly at the slave owner, and with a cold heart at the slave, never seem to put themselves into the position of the latter; what a cheerless prospect, with not even a hope of change! picture to yourself the chance, ever hanging over you, of your wife and your little children - those objects which nature urges even the slave to call his own - being torn from you and sold like beasts to the first bidder! And these deeds are done and palliated by men, who profess to love their neighbours as themselves, who believe in God, and pray that his Will be done on earth! It makes one's blood boil, yet heart tremble, to think that we Englishmen and our American descendants, with their boastful cry of liberty, have been and are so guilty. . ." The Voyage of the Beagle (1839)
"Some few, & I am one, even and wish to God, though at the loss of millions of lives, that the North would proclaim a crusade against Slavery. . . Great God how I should like to see the greatest curse on Earth Slavery abolished. "• Letter to Asa Gray,1861),


It is interesting to note that Darwin was born the same day that Lincoln. And this not only point out what the souls may share, but also that he expressed and catalyzed a process already underway in the collective unconscious (all those planets in Pisces, including Pluto ruler of 12th house; ruler Neptune in Sag in 12th house conjunct Saturn ruler of Moon, 2nd house cusp and all SNs, including Venus, and natural ruler of Venus ruler Mars in 10th house).  

INNER NATURE OF VENUS:
"The inner nature of Venus correlates to how we are inwardly relating to ourselves, and how we go about uniting inwardly discordants aspects of our overall nature of personality." (Pluto 2, pag. 127)

Inner relation to himself:
Although we see guilt and repression in his 2nd house Moon, Venus reflects freedom in his inner relation, and courage to bear self-doubt and paradoxical needs and behavior, letting them to coexist (ruler Mars in Libra).  
His individualism and need of loneliness coexisted with his emotional need of his wife, his independence coexisted with his awareness of interdependence. He was hesitant and self doubting, even in his views and beliefs, however firm in affirming them after seriously improving them (Venus in 3rd house, ruler Mars in Libra, Taurus 6th house)  
The balsamic semi- sextile to SN reflects his challenge to let go of narcissism and progressively replacing it  by humility and care for the other; trauma, acknowledgement of its causes and responsibility allowed to understand the purpose of his social role and commitment to his higher ideal, understanding and promoting collective evolution. (Venus balsamic semi-sextile SN, inconjunct NN conjunct Uranus in Scorpio in 11th house)    
The goal of transforming limitations, pushing limits in order to evolve in direction to truth and Natural Law is the beacon that led his intention of uniting, or at least letting to coexist inwardly discordants aspects of his personality.
To it he needed to surrender pain, fear, and sometimes independence, especially regarding family life.

Family Life
With Venus in Aries in 3rd house, freedom and independence is basic in all his relationships with others. However, the paradoxical and sometimes conflictive aspects of his inner relationship of course influenced these relationships.
Family is an important focus of identity with Vesta in 4th house as it is an inner feeling of duty and dedication. Trauma and guilt increases responsibility and dedication.
The Soul's intention to accept responsibility and make amends guided the choice of Ceres and Juno in Pisces that reflects prior and current losses but also a compassionate and empathic attitude to family, that correlates with the inherent ability to listen and consider the other's needs (ruler Mars in Libra).
Moon in Cap also suggest a fatherly ego, which despite the repressed emotions could manifest through responsibility, commitment, care for material needs and moral guide, role traditionally attributed to the father. This was may be the way to express Soul's profound (unconditional?) love (Pluto, Ceres and Juno in Pisces, Venus trine Saturn conjunct Neptune in 12th house)

Within this, his relationship with his wife merits a special consideration. Here the "feminine" aspects of the Soul, the different aspects of his anima interweave in a different way.
The displaced emotional needs reflected in his Cap Moon, ruler of his 8th house, and lived in this lifetime through the loss of the mother, created an emotional dependency of her, sometimes childlike. In 1848, with 39 years old he wrote her a letter saying:  "My dearest old Mammy ... Without you, when sick I feel most desolate  ... Oh Mammy I do long to be with you and under your protection for then I feel safe."
In medical reports about his panic, was stated that Darwin felt "nervousness when Emma leaves me".
However, even while Emma told him that she was sad that their opinions on the most important subject should differ widely ...  and although they never were able to see eye-to-eye on the question of religion and God, he kept his views and in the end, each of them accepted and, it seems, truly understood what the other believed. (Venus in Aries in 3rd house, ruler Mars in Libra, PP in Libra in 9th house)
The Venus balsamic semi-sextile to SN and the trine to Saturn and Neptune, rulers of Moon, Ceres and Juno, as well as the Libra rulership is reflected in his saying to Emma before their wedding: "Excuse this much egotism, I give it to you, because I think you will humanise me, and soon teach me there is greater happiness, than building theories and accumulating facts in silence and solitude." It was also an acknowledgment of her importance in uniting inwardly discordants aspects of his personality.

Anima as contrasexual archetype:
I believe that Venus, as inner feminine side of a man, shares with Moon the aspect of Anima, especially as contrasexual archetype.
Analogous to Venus, inner and outer relationship archetype, Anima according to Jung ". . . is the caricature of feminine Eros . . . Eros is an interlacing. . . Eros is relationship. . ." (CW 13), and ". . . the anima transforms itself, by integration, in the Eros of the consciousness . . . the anima imprints a relation and a polarity to man's consciousness. . . "
Independent Venus conjunct Vesta (and modulated by Mars in Libra) balances the emotional dependency making him able to establish an equality relationship with his wife, according to his evolutionary stage.
Mars in Libra ruling Venus and its NN, as well as the semi-sextile to SN reflect the intention of letting go of the past narcissism and opening to the other's needs becoming more flexible; the intention of flexibility in relationships is also suggested by R.L. in Gemini in 7th house.
Venus in Mar's sign while Mars is in her sign, suggests an advanced integration between masculine and feminine aspects, - an evolved anima searching and inner equality and balance - reflected in his marriage in which he not only lived a displaced emotional need, but also mutual respect, that also manifested in his wife's attitude to his work and his following her opinion regarding it.
In this aspect I also see what Upasika pointed out regarding a preparation for a gender shift.

Rad, Venus as anima is correct from a EA point of view?
Thank you for the opportunity and guidance
God Bless
Mirta
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Jun 05, 2013, 09:25 AM
Hi Rad,

I am 3/4 of the way there, and as it's very late was going to post what I had done. But since it is close to being finished I decided to do that first, and will post it tomorrow. Sorry to delay a final time, if you need to move on I totally understand, and would catch up no trouble.

thanks so much,
Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Jun 05, 2013, 10:18 AM
Hi Mirta,

Thanks for taking the time to work on this next step, Venus, in Darwin's chart. I understand the difficulties you have because of trying to relate all that you know through English.

Yet you did manage to understand some of the various dynamics, and the reasons for them, of why Darwin chose the Venus he did. This understanding as presented was fairly limited in scope and, primarily, relied on to a high degree of using quotes from Darwin to demonstrate the dynamics you did chose to focus on. This is really not how we want to do EA. What we need to do is focus on the archetypes themselves in any chart in order to understand and create an EA analysis of any Soul.

For example, Venus in Aries, archetypically  correlates to an emotional/ psychological paradox relative to relationships. One the one hand there is a desire for independence and freedom in order to be able to act upon any desire the Soul has in order to actualize and/or discover it's own sense of reality, of it's own sense of having a special / new destiny to realize. One the other hand, a desire to be in relationships with others wherein others present or expect their needs to be meet. This then creates a fear that the expectations of the other(s) can then impact or take away the necessary freedom that the Soul needs in order to actualize it's own sense of special destiny, of being able to act upon an desire or impulse that leads to the discovery of it's own unique individuality.

Relative to Venus in Aries in the 3rd House this then correlates to an desire, need, for intellectual freedom to investigate any question the Soul has because of a desire to explore the diversity of the manifested Creation. This then creates within the Soul a deep and almost relentless restlessness that affects the capacity of the Soul to be truly present in any given circumstance other than the immediacy of that which is being experienced for the first time. Thus, the Soul will value and need this need for intellectual freedom reflected back from the partner's that it chooses. The Soul well expect and need from it's partner an understanding and acceptance of it's core desire to be free to explore and develop itself in the way's that it's desires so dictate. Based on this inner magnetism generated by Venus, the magnetism of Venus that serves as to that which we attract for the reasons that we do, the Soul who has Venus in Aries will then attract the same kind of partner.

The point I am trying to make is that in EA, and I know you already know this, is to focus on the archetypes themselves. If you did not know this was the chart of Darwin that is what you or anyone else would have to do. So, to me, by knowing that this was the chart of Darwin you have tried to root your analysis by way of the facts of his life, of the various quotes you have utilized to do so. This is not what we want to do. By focusing on the archetypes first, it is then ok to use the various facts of the person's life to illustrate those archetypes but the archetypes must come first.

You asked: "Rad, Venus as anima is correct from a EA point of view?"

No. The anima/animus dynamic/ archetype is specific to the Moon wherein the 'dark side' of the Moon correlates to the opposite gender in the male or female. The natural square to Libra, Venus, that the Moon/Cancer makes is that which can 'eroticise' this anima/animus within the Moon but, of itself, Venus/Libra does not correlate to the anima/animus. The animus/ anima archetype if all Soul's is not dependent upon actualization relative to the eroticism that Jung was referring too.

Again, Mirta, thanks for making the effort you have. From my prior experiences of you EA work on this message board I know you know EA, and how to do EA. In our next step which will be Mars please remember to focus first upon the archetypes themselves as if you did not know this was the chart of Darwin.

God Bless, Rad

Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Jun 05, 2013, 10:22 AM
Hi Upasika and Gray,

Please continue to take the time necessary for each of you to complete this next step. To me the greatest value is for those who have committed to do the work that this thread demands is the value of each making the effort to do so because this correlates to the ongoing EA development for each one of you.

And each of you has been doing simply great work that is not only benefiting yourselves, but all others who come here to read this ongoing thread on the Planetary Method developed by JWG.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Gray on Jun 05, 2013, 12:46 PM
Thank you Rad for your acceptance of my tardiness here with this next post.  I was just going to be getting on here today to tell you that in the last week I fell off working on this thread, but that last night I became re-engaged with it, and I do believe it is realistic I can have something posted by the end of this upcoming weekend, if that is okay.  I have not yet read the new posts by other contributors on Venus yet, so I'm not sure if the unresolved trauma of Darwin has already been addressed to a great extent, but I am starting to tune in to a greater extent to the depth of this and I am hoping to link the Aries Venus to this in some way . . .
with gratitude and love, Gray
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: mirta on Jun 06, 2013, 01:49 PM
Thank you Rad for your feedback and care
God Bless
Mirta
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Jun 06, 2013, 01:58 PM
Hi Rad, I'm going to offer some more effort here to address the dynamics of his Venus I had not addressed in my previous post. In gratitude,
Ari Moshe

QuoteQuestions relative to Venus that you did not go into include how he related to others based upon how he related to himself, how he was able to 'hear' or 'listen' to others based on how he heard and listened to himself. Within this what he needed and valued from others in general, and what he needed and valued by way of intimate partners specifically: his essential needs. In turn what others in general, and his intimate others which include his family members needed and valued from him.

Within this his core sexual values, the meaning that he would give to his sexuality, and what his intimate other, his wife, sexually valued and needed from him. You did make the effort to understand his orientation to his sexuality to some extent but this part of your analysis was underdeveloped. And this statement  "I imagine during during most sexual activity he would tend to be pretty extreme; completely wild and exhibit an incredibly strong desire for all things sensual " is not correct at all. Above all else his Soul was very conservative and restrained concerning sexually relating to another which is defined by his hypersensitive nature manifesting as a core shyness and, thus, conservative and restrained. Sexuality for him would be primarily rooted in sex as procreation. Relative to his Moon, Sun, Chiron, all the S.Nodes in Capricorn including Venus in his 2nd House, he would have a high degree of self focus sexually that manifested primarily as masturbation. Thus, with his wife or anyone sexually intimate with him, sexual intercourse was really just another form of masturbation to him.

His Venus in Aries in the 3rd, close to the IC would imply a soul that knew what he was interested in and thus would not be interested in absorbing indiscriminate data and information from others. This soul listened to others with a single focused mind, and was predominately interested in what he wished to know. The new phase with all the Pisces planets of course implies there is an inherent openness to all kinds of data and information - and yet his inner relationship to himself, which was strongly oriented towards direction and purpose, would not imply an openness to taking in too many points of views that were not relevant to his purpose.

The crisis however is that gibbous phase with Mars in Libra in the 10th and its square to the Moon in Cap in the 2nd, including the sn of Venus. This soul is incredibly sensitive to social opinion and has desired from within himself to be accepted and respected by others. Thus he would feel an inner tension with regards to balancing between his needs to become integrated socially, and his needs to stay focused on the information, and thus relationships/correspondences that are relevant to his purpose. Another way of saying this is his Venus in Aries in the 3rd symbolizes an inner reactive dialog - one thought would elicit another thought that would be considered and then again reacted upon. Strong and constant inner thought process. He needed to repress that in many instances so as to be accepted and to fit in.

What he needed and would value most from others would be the freedom and space for him to speak his mind (or just think what he thought) and be completely accepted for it. He needed relationships where he can release his inner thought process (which in an Aries way can become compressed if it's not moving in any new direction) so that he can hear his own self through actual dialog. I can imagine there may have been the general need to just talk and be with people that would hear him so as to provide a context for him to talk and think, even if they did not know what he was talking about - kind of like masturbatory talking.

He would also be attracted to people that would ask objective, scientific questions (inconjunct with Uranus, nn in 11th) and not judge him for being "wrong" (Mars in Libra 10th gibbous phase ruling Venus). Thus there was a simultaneous need for total acceptance by others, and yet also the need to relate with others who would be oriented around his own thought process (whether or not they understood him); who would appreciate his own train of thought and in best cases truly desire to follow it. To elaborate, I can see two distinct kinds of people here that he would attract into his life:

The first kind wants to be guided and lead by a strong mind - and would have an inherent trust in Darwin's abilities. That trust would lead them to draw a close relationship to Darwin on the basis of feeling him to be a leader, someone who is confident and clear in his path.

The other kind of person would be someone who is not needing a leader, for they are already their own - they would embody a natural self reliance and ability to think for their own selves. On that basis there would be a commonality and shared value between these people and Darwin - even if they did not agree on the same issues or understand one another.

Emma Darwin did in fact have Venus in Aries, conjunct his Venus, and her Mars and Sun was on his south node in Taurus as well. Her sn, which is also Taurus (she was born only 1 year before him) falls in his 6th house. She certainly didn't NEED him to form her ideas for her, she was reliant upon herself in forming her own relationship to herself. She also had Mercury in Aries. This allowed Charles Darwin to work on himself, to do what he was here to do and still be loved/supported.

They did in fact have many different views and while she did encounter inner conflict and fear about that at first, ultimately they were able to share their minds openly with one another, listening and respecting one another without the need to change the other or create any kind of intellectual dependencies upon one another. It was this openness and acceptance which is exactly what Darwin needed. Relative to his shyness and need to be accepted, I can see how this soul would very easily shy away from speaking his mind in certain social environments - for the fear of alienating himself and being judged by others. Based on that, he wouldn't necessarily KNOW how to get his needs met because he has become used to being a loner and not usually sharing all that is inside of him. The deep acceptance and loving commitment of his wife allowed him to share and feel affirmed for who he was - even by someone who had views different than his own.

Furthermore, his own family would have simply depended upon his mental independence as that is what likely sustained the family. The sn of Venus is in Cap in the 2nd house. Moon correlations as well.

Reflecting on the fact of Venus being conjunct the IC, this would also imply an insecurity and anxiety within this soul rooted in the need for total freedom to establish his own inner relationship to himself, and yet the need to be nurtured and supported for who he is. This need was in fact met by his wife - as his wife both allowed his total freedom and space to do his work, and also took care of him immensely during the many years of his poor health. Reflecting back on his own relationship to his mother - who died early, there is something within the soul of Darwin that felt "lost" or blocked from accessing the inner feminine planes within himself.

Sexually, you corrected what I wrote about him being wild and enthusiastic sexually. I now understand this and I would re-phrase what I wrote to be: That Venus in Aries in the 3rd points to a strong sexual desire nature, and yet relative to its sn in Cap in the 2nd, it's inconjunct to Uranus and Scorpio nn in the 11th, which is then squared by Chiron in Aquarius in the 2nd, this soul will not know how to channel that energy through the heart (Venus) on the basis of the kinds of sexual and social trauma he has experienced which has inhibited him from connecting with others on an intimate personal level. This linked with the strong social inhibitions and inner self-judgement. Thus the strong instinctive, sexual impulses will be predominately channeled through the procreative centers and will express as his deep need to establish  relationship with himself which reflects his need to survive and yet in a sense also reflects a deeper guilt and an inner lack based on where deep within he feels he cannot connect with others on a more permeating level of emotional vulnerability; through the heart.

His values are also incredibly fixed. Capricorn on the 2nd, and Saturn in Sag in the 12th with Neptune in  first quarter trine with Venus. He has his established beliefs, which would reflect the crystalized/fixed inner relationship to himself which itself is a reflection of his own survival/self preservation strategy. These beliefs would emphasize the pro-creative elements of sexuality and gender and would become defacto excuses for him to remain exactly where he was regarding his inner relationship with himself. This way, he can remain who he is, unquestioned, and not have to unlock his frozen feeling body. Of course he would form these beliefs based on very large correlations to phenomena found all over nature: Sagittarius, which would then justify why he is the way he is, why others are the way they are etc.
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Jun 07, 2013, 09:27 AM
Hi Ari,

Thanks for adding to your EA analysis of Darwin in the way that you did. What you have added is very, very sound EA reasoning, and very accurate. Once again your efforts, as well as they others, are helping those who come here to read this thread learn how EA is meant to be done. Thanks for that.

Great work Ari, bravo !

God bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Jun 07, 2013, 09:38 AM
Hi Rad,

                                    Why Venus is in the 3rd house in Aries

As Venus in Darwin's chart is the ruler of the Moon's South Node, Venus has a dual application in the chart "¦

i)   a past lives application, and
ii)   a current life application

Along with Pluto, it is a hinge in the chart to the Soul's recent past.

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Darwin's evolutionary intentions and past lives have already been extensively covered. However we can briefly revisit the role of Venus as it applies to Darwin's immediate past life - that of William Dampier. Venus being in the 3rd house in Aries describes two basic characteristics of Dampier - an innate restlessness combined with a persistent desire for close observation of his environment, people and nature (3rd house) and a pioneering temperament, happiest when he could be independent and unencumbered with commitment to others (Aries). Dampier married in his twenties so he obviously had an urge to partner, but that was about it. He was extremely hungry for world exploration from a very young age, leaving soon after on one sea voyage after another. And although he arranged for money to be sent to his wife, he only ever saw her briefly between his almost constant trips around various parts of the globe.

As Venus is in a Balsamic semi-sextile to the Moon's SN (in Taurus 5th) we can see that a long series of lives based on (at varying times) hedonism, sensual stimuli, creative purpose, recreational endeavours, children, enjoyment and study of nature, wilful determination to survive, and withdrawal and consolidation, are coming to a close, a culmination. As a result the Soul (even as Dampier) would have felt a new cycle was on the horizon, and had some conceptions and ideas regarding what that might involve. This would have induced some introspection in Dampier, causing him to reflect on his past history regarding his Soul's evolutionary intentions - to develop his mind through observation, questioning, deduction and induction, a search for more meaning in his world (Venus) and in life itself (Venus FQ trine to it's higher octave, Neptune in Sag 12th). Dampier would have felt the need to bring this long history of past development to a completion, in order to release energy and focus for the new cycle that was waiting in the wings - whatever it was. This introspection would have prompted him to separate out from others (SN Taurus/inner Venus withdrawal) to distance himself from the prevailing consensus opinions and beliefs (3rd Indiv), so that his new ideas and feelings could more easily arise and become clearer to him (Balsamic phase).  

Another cause for Dampier to be somewhat introspective was the Gibbous quincunx from Venus (as SN ruler) to the NN/Uranus New conjunction. We know this Soul has activated these energies/location in the chart in recent lives (caused by any planet conjunct the Moon's NN), but despite that the 11th house (trauma, groups and liberation) would have been something Dampier would have been generally wary of (Gibb quincunx -keeping a moderate to low profile being the best policy generally- from an Aries Venus to the NN conj Uranus in Scorpio in the 11th house: experienced by a 3rd indiv Soul) and thus he would have tended to watch his general social situations carefully, reducing attention to himself where possible - introspection, with limited desire for group involvement on a mainstream level.  

We additionally know that the Moon's NN has been activated prior to this life -and also the PPP for the same reason- because a planet is squaring the Nodal axis (in this case it's Chiron).

However, although Dampier would have been introspective, the Uranus new conj Moon's NN in the 11th meant he would have been relatively aware of his individuality, and would have had questions about what reality really was beyond society's view of it. But rather than engage randomly with others, he would have channelled his questioning inwardly (Scorpio), preferring to direct his inquiry internally with himself (Moon in Capricorn 2nd, Venus in Aries).

Venus is also quintile its own SN in Capricorn 2nd, and this SN of Venus is also conj the SNs of Pluto, Saturn, Vesta & Mercury. This means the lives of both Dampier and Darwin were linked to the 2nd house experiences the Soul had in distant lives (that have been dealt with previously), where a great deal of trauma deposited (Chiron) as a result of challenging the status quo, survival struggles, family hardships and loss, and wrestling with his own inner discontent and anguish. And all these SNs are conjunct the Moon in Capricorn 2nd. In this way Venus is a link from the life of Darwin back through the life of Dampier and then deep into the Soul's roots. And with Venus also being in a direct Cresc sextile with Chiron, we know Dampier and Darwin were both linked in to the Soul's health issues stemming from all this unresolved trauma that had accumulated over time. Indeed, in Dampier's early life, he was struck by a mystery illness out of the blue which flattened him, taking approx. 9 months to overcome. Here we see the precedent for the kind of health issues Darwin also had, the same "uncaused" illness that Darwin suffered so much from, manifesting in the life of Dampier before him. Even back then, the Soul was already starting to purge the unresolved trauma out directly through the body.

So, instead of following what would normally be a natural tendency - indiscriminately socialising (Venus in 3rd) - Dampier would have known clearly what he needed to do "¦  the SN is in a close FQ trine to the PPP (Virgo 9th). And this would probably not have been the first life where the Soul felt full and confident (trine), with an inner demand for actualisation of its pregnant potential (Mercury bals conj Pluto new conj Jupiter). For lives this Soul has been developing its mental faculties, and building its understanding of what natural and biological life really was. Now in the life of Dampier, this potential needed to be actualised through being released. Thus Dampier would have had a desire for a life of Virgo 9th house experiences (PPP) - global exploration, refined mental order, and development and eventual fulfilment of his higher mind. This would also have been a way of dealing with the many questions he would have had about life (3rd house stellium). And he would have realised the route to the 9th house was through discipline of the lower mind (Mercury FQ square Saturn). It was these kinds of activities that he would have preferred to focus his time and energy on. So for example, Dampier became an expert on ocean currents and winds, and this valuable acquired knowledge was still being appreciated a century after he died.

The Soul would have clearly known what needed to be completed, to be culminated in the life of Dampier, in order to become prepared for the new cycle visible on the horizon (Venus Balsamic semi-sextile Moon's SN), and to be ready to usher it in when it arrived (when it becomes a New Conjunction). Dampier used buccaneering (basically pirating) as a vehicle to get him around the world so he could be exposed to as much of nature as possible. But instead of actively joining in the pirating activity he largely ignored that whole aspect of his environment, only ever doing what he felt necessary to maintain the goodwill of the ship crew he was currently involved with at any time (but never shirking it either, he always did his share of the fighting - generically Venus in Aries 3rd ruled by Mars in the 10th is not too concerned about being assertive if it's really required to be). And that meant that unless he was required to fight for the group (this 11th house arena that he liked to keep at arm's length) he could retreat (SN in Taurus, ruler Venus in Aries) to his own company and pursuits -.which was focusing on the scientific and religious enquiries he had (even as Dampier this was already the Soul's favourite pastime).

So via all the above, as the Moon's SN ruler Venus in Aries 3rd shows us that like Darwin, Dampier also had a deep inner conviction (Venus balsamic conj to Vesta Aries 4th - Venus also new conj to Jupiter, which is new conj to Pluto both in Pisces 3rd) that he had a special purpose to fulfil (SN in 5th, ruler Venus in Fire sign, large 3rd house stellium, the Uranus/NN & Saturn/Neptune conjunctions, SN Disseminating biSeptile Moon, NN LQ Septile PPP), and he would have been very self-focussed (Venus in Aries) in attracting (Venus) conditions conducive to fulfilling that purpose into his life. So briefly that's how and where Venus has been operating in Darwin's most recent lives. The Soul as Darwin is in the 5th primary lifetime following the bottom line desire of Pisces 3rd house. Darwin's immediately previous life of Dampier was little different in many ways to his life as Darwin. Clearly the purpose and mission were the same. However Dampier could only start/develop things, leaving behind him a great deal still to be done.

Where Venus has it's roots is shown by the SN of Venus, in Capricorn 2nd, part of a stellium of distant lives (South Nodes) all in the 1st and 2nd house and mostly conjunct the Moon in Cap 2nd. Venus may be in Aries in the 3rd (simple, direct and breezy)  but it's come from many lives of grim hard graft and struggle, and has grown out of an unyielding focus on results (SN Venus close conj SN Saturn, and the ruler of SN Venus also being Saturn). And this has been carried through into the life of Dampier, as described above - he was clearly focussed on his career and his personal achievements his whole life, never took time out to play as such. So via Venus, the SN ruler, we come into the current life of Darwin, briefly knowing his Soul's history regarding its relationship to itself and others. Thus as a young man Darwin felt his desires and needs were already fully formed (Pluto in Pisces, Neptune in 12th). However because of the stellium in Pisces containing Pluto, ruled by Neptune in Sagittarius, he had no clear definitions of what he actually wanted to do - he just knew it was something specific yet undefined (consciously to himself anyway), that he was unconsciously attracted to. In the gap of not knowing (stellium in Pisces) he mostly followed his intuition - Jupiter new conj Pluto, ruled by (Saturn bals conj to) Nep in Sag 12th - in gravitating towards what he felt naturally attracted to doing, and in this manner gradually but steadily revealing to himself and others his ardent enthusiasm for observation, and his remarkable gifts as a naturalist.


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Venus describes how we listen, and how we experience ourselves and others objectively. To do this we listen both internally and externally, in an attempt to achieve balance between ourselves and others. Our attempts to achieve balance can resemble a juggling act, as our survival needs and feelings interact within us, at the same time as we engage with all the people in our life. Venus is the natural ruler of Taurus and Libra - describing the inner and outer operation of Venus. In the inner functioning Venus is concerned with survival, values and feelings, and the creation of meaning. In the outer functioning Venus is concerned with initiating relationships based on the need for both sex and resources (Taurus), and for ideals regarding transcendence, love and bliss to be realised (Pisces).

An evaluation of Venus therefore involves the 2nd, 7th and 12th houses, and their ruler locations and aspects: and where Taurus, Libra and Pisces are in the chart, and the location and aspects of Venus and Neptune.


Resources:  Sign on 2nd house cusp and its ruler location & aspects, Taurus & Venus locations, Venus aspects

Darwin's core survival instinct (2nd) would have been one of self-determination (Cap), based on deep introspection (3rd indiv, Cap) that would have fostered a natural perception into the structural nature of society (Cap), his parental conditions (10th house being the natural house related to Cap, and by extension also the 4th house as it's the polarity to the 10th), and the reality of the world (Cap) as far as it was conceived in upper class English society. This would have engendered an understanding of how English (and extrapolated from that, also Western) society was constructed and "worked", and at the same time a sense of how and where he fitted in with it. This would have amounted to feeling fundamentally aligned with English society's basic tenets - democracy, the social class system & capitalism (because he chose such a society to be born into, combined with Cap on 2nd house cusp).

However Darwin would also have felt his uniqueness keenly (3rd indiv), and one way his survival instinct would have expressed would have been through wanting to preserve his innate sense of personal right to be "different" in whichever way he felt to be (Aquarius beginning in the 2nd house). Given his deepest desire in this life - to culminate his long-running intellectual and intuitional growth (shown by the karmic axis in all the ways already discussed) - this instinct would have then equated to aligning with the socially condoned scientific community of the time (Aquarius within 2ndhouse, also reflected in his Sun being in Aquarius), and the more elite the scientific groups he was a member of the better (SN Moon in 5th). With Cap on the 2nd house cusp Darwin would have based his survival on manoeuvring himself into the best place to take advantage of the "system". His primary way of doing this was initially via his choice of family to be born into (wealthy British upper class), but as a youth he also did his best to comply with his father's wishes (despite his heart not being in any of his father's ideas for his future), so as not to diminish his chances of family support. He also connected whenever possible with well-placed individuals in his local scientific community, and ending up becoming actual genuine friends with some of these. In short, Darwin's instinct for survival was to balance his innate sense of how the system worked (Capricorn) with his need to retain his individual status and independence of mind (Aquarius).

With the 2nd house ruler Saturn located in the 12th house it would have taken him a while to gain clarity about his survival situation, the resources he had, and those he lacked which needed to be procured externally. With Saturn being in Sag and the Sun in the 2nd being in Aquarius, he would have felt it important to protect both his freedom of choice and the freedom to accept or reject offers of resources and/or opportunity on his own terms, as clarity about his survival situation became more established within him. With Saturn balsamic conj to Neptune both in Sag 12th, Darwin felt the need for resources that could help make the intangible real, resources to travel out into nature (Sag), out into the unknown (12th) - to explore wild oceans and far away continents.

Saturn, the ruler of the 2nd house, is also in a FQ trine to Venus, the natural ruler of the 2nd. So resources needed also relate to Aries 3rd house concerns - a way to make experiments, study, discussion and learning - so Darwin needed a laboratory, an office or study, and colleagues to talk and learn with. Saturn is also quincunx the Moon's SN in the 5th house, so Darwin would have unconsciously realised his family pedigree was one of his best resources, and made sure he stayed compliant enough (quincunx) that his eligibility for family assistance was never compromised (Moon in Cap 2nd). With Saturn  ruling his 2nd and FQ square Mercury he would have known it was critical to support his need for independent observation and thinking in order to fulfil  his deepest desires (Merc bals conj Pluto Pisces 3rd). Therefore he would have networked with individuals he thought could help him find or simply give him the resources and career opportunities he needed: Mercury (communication) FQ trine (confidence) 11th house (networking) Uranus conj NN in Scorpio - a very resourceful sign.

With Taurus on his 6th house cusp, not having adequate resources would have always represented a crisis of some kind, with a constant potential for anxiety. His preference would have been to work (6th) in seclusion or in some withdrawn setting (Taurus), which would have implied a workspace in a private residence. His ability to determine for himself what he needed would have been significantly enhanced by having the Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd, with a creative and objective approach to resources, and indeed to himself as well. With the Sun conjunct Pallas, also in Aquarius, and both in disseminating trine to Mars in Libra in the 10th, it would almost have been a case of just thinking of what he needed, and then simply waiting for it to turn up via somebody perfectly placed and willing to provide for that particular need.

For Darwin all these things gave meaning to his life, and he never warmed to anything that didn't involve these particular factors, prompting his father to despair that his most significant achievement in life was destined to be nothing more than a bird shooter. But Darwin intrinsically knew what it was that he wanted to do, and what he needed to do it - an even mix of opportunity and resources to explore nature, on as big a scale as possible. This was what gave his life meaning, that in conjunction with the opportunity to use his mind to maximum effect. It was these values that also conditioned his beliefs to some extent too. His passion for being a naturalist and the meaning it gave his life gradually eroded his unverified beliefs in Christianity, and then even in God to an extent.

With Venus in the 3rd he would have had no trouble making connections with anybody he thought could help him acquire what he needed, often assuming, in a naïve kind of way (Venus in Aries) that such help was his by right (SN in 5th). With Venus in Aries 3rd in Gibbous quincunx to Uranus conj NN in Scorpio in the 11th, he would have intrinsically known to avoid pretence or airs of any kind in his dealings with people, in order to fruit resources from others, thus maximising his chances for material and intangible assistance from a variety of sources. He would have listened to his own self regarding his needs from an independent position (Venus in Aries), felt confident he would be able to attract (Venus) what he needed to himself (Venus is conj its own NN - meaning, as was the case with Mercury conjunct its own NN, Venus would operate with less concerns about the future, and instead a naturally intensified focus in the present).

Although shy, sensitive and very reasoned by nature, in his own quiet way Darwin would have been an instinctively passionate man, in some part due to his feeling he was special with a special destiny he needed to fulfil (Venus in Aries), thus needing to maintain a fundamental independence in order to actualise it. He would have created relationships instinctively based on whether another had something that he needed, whether that was a resource or an opportunity, or in his teenage and early years of youth, whether a sexual attraction was present. His predominate focus would have instinctively been on his own needs, particularly concerning his sense of undefined special destiny (Venus in a Fire sign). Until he identified what exactly that destiny was Darwin would have been non-committal with situations he found himself in, and others in general. Once he did discover what it was that he felt a deep connection to, and a desire to do, he would become very keenly interested in forming relationships if doing that would assist that destiny. In Darwin's case his destiny was to be a dedicated naturalist, and he established passionate relationships with anyone who could help that situation advance. Darwin initially viewed everything and everyone as representing one of two possibilities a) being or having something he needed, or b) being of no use to him (Cap on 2nd house cusp) - and this view was also applied to a potential future wife(!)  

And he didn't care how the situation representing his special destiny developed, only that it did. Just as Dampier had done his whole life, initially Darwin totally ignored (Venus in Aries) anything and anyone that was not going to help him fulfil his deep desire and his special destiny - to be a naturalist. Underneath his open minded yet reserved demeanour (Sun in Aquarius, Moon in Cap), he had an inner ruthlessness (Cap on 2nd) combined with an innate selfishness (Venus in Aries), and a buoyant optimism towards his ability to get what he needed (Venus new conj Jupiter 3rd house). He instinctively felt his "divine right" to be given all that he needed, a sense of entitlement (Moon SN in 5th, ruler Venus in Aries FQ trine Saturn/Neptune in Sag 12th) which made him lazy/complacent, and indifferent to/withdrawn from general social expectations (Taurus on 6th house). This attitude was encapsulated in his endless bird shooting activity when he was a young man, engaged simply because the opportunity and resources to pursue exactly what he wanted to do hadn't manifested at that point in time.

But that's all it was, a matter of timing. In a most essential way Darwin identified himself as his greatest asset or resource (Sun and Moon in 2nd, 3rd individuated). He also had enough inner past life momentum and a good mixture of personal confidence and humility (all as previously described) and the optimum social situation from which to operate. He was restless, and also industrious in his search, and as a result it wasn't long before he found his feet in the world, and from that his path in life (Cap 2nd house containing Sun. Moon and Chiron, ruler Saturn in 12th conj Neptune both in Sag).


Relationships:  Sign on 7nd house cusp and its ruler location & aspects, Libra & Venus

At any point in time we are assessing/re-assessing what we need in the way of resources, and determining which resources we already possess and which we need to obtain from outside ourselves, which leads to our specific needs including the need for certain kinds of one-to-one relationships (7th house, the Descendent). Darwin's one-to-one relationships would have been based predominately on a mental connection (Gemini on 7th and the ruler of Gemini, Mercury, is in the 3rd - the natural Gemini house). However there would always have been a significant feeling component in his relationships as the 7th house ruler (Mercury) is in Pisces conjunct Ceres, Pluto, Juno & Jupiter - all also in Pisces (as well as being in the 3rd). Additionally the DESC is square to Pluto, Ceres and Mercury and quincunx to Uranus and the NN (all in water signs). So his relationships would have usually been initiated via a mental process (Gemini, 3rd) in order to establish a connection that he could trust (Pisces, Scorpio), that would supply the tangible and intangible resources he needed but didn't have himself. And as we have seen basically all of Darwin's needs were related to his special destiny that was now so ripe for manifestation and culmination, which would have included all his needs for things, people and opportunity. That's what drove him and he was interested in little else.

Darwin made the initial connections to significant people in his local scientific community that got a few doors opening to opportunities that enabled him to expand his geological and naturalist activities (his passions). He also presented himself as a keen student to those whom he thought could teach him something worthwhile, and obtained many books to boost his self-study. He expected people to be receptive to his questions, and his need to discuss his newly forming ideas. He was however very open (Gemini on 7th, Mercury ruler of 7th in Pisces) to anybody who displayed an intelligent viewpoint, for example highly valuing his relationship with John Edmonstone, a freed black slave whom he learnt taxidermy from. By putting himself in as much scientific milieu as he possibly could, he was also expecting to capitalise (Cap 2nd) on any stray opportunities to enhance his learning or be exposed to new scientific material, and that is exactly what happened. For example, he was able to assist Robert Edmond Grant's investigations of marine invertebrates. And he became a close friend and follower of botany professor John Stevens Henslow and met other leading naturalists who saw scientific work as religious natural theology, such ideas giving a definition to his innate passion, helping him further identify what his needs were. He also joined Adam Sedgwick's geology course, and travelled with him to map strata in Wales. Darwin would have had expectations that not only would he be learning valuable knowledge and skills, but this "shoulder-rubbing" would be an investment in his professional network and future opportunities.

And indeed eventually this exposure did lead to him being offered a position on the Beagle as a naturalist. At this point we can see how the personal relationships he initially initiated and cultivated (Gemini 7th, Mercury in 3rd, and Venus in Aries 3rd) resulted in him subsequently gaining access to a larger professional network (Venus rules the 10th and is ruled by Mars which itself is in the 10th in Libra). This was a direct result of Darwin's choice of people to initiate relationships with, which was directly based on his perception of resources he lacked. The offer of a place on the Beagle was a result of the relationship network he created and energised (Uranus conj NN in 11th Scorpio, Sun in Aquarius), showing that his instinctive and intuitional sense of who would be beneficial to connect with proved to be very accurate, and ultimately fruitful.

So on the Beagle he went. By the time he returned he had significantly impressed the British scientific community with his work, so much so that his father decided to create an investment fund for him so that he could become a self-funded "gentleman-scientist", meaning he could focus exclusively on his scientific passions and not worry about having to earn a living any more. At this point Darwin had attracted with a singular focus (Venus in Aries) two primary things he needed into his life - scientific facilities and opportunity (Cap on 2nd, 10th house), and the funding (2nd house) to pursue his scientific work (Mercury/Pluto/Jupiter Pisces 3rd, Saturn/Neptune Sag 12th, and NN/Uranus Scorpio 11th).

He now settled into his newly secured career with great determination, and quickly became embroiled in a heavy workload, which in turn led to his health deteriorating. As a result he went to stay with relatives where his cousin Emma lived, who he was reminded of via his attraction to her, which in turn led him a little while later to consider the issue of marriage, and whether or not that was his last primary need (Cap on 2nd). And in typical fashion he subjected such a possibility to his general all purpose "needs analysis" process, which amounted to compiling a detailed and exhaustive list of all the pros and cons regarding doing so, and letting the resulting analysis of these factors produce the decision for him (Mercury in 3rd FQ square Saturn in Sag). This analysis determined that it was by far in his best interests to marry. It had taken him 3 years from the time he first met Emma until he decided he wanted to marry her. But once he had made his decision he approached her with the aim of sounding her out more regarding his ideas to see if a partnership would be possible, and fortunately it was.

This was first and foremost because Emma was from a free thinking background with significant intellectual abilities, who readily appreciated Darwin's intellect and scientific ideas, even if she didn't always agree with them because of her religious views. No doubt other factors such as physical attraction, and an emotional and spiritual connection were present too, but they were secondary. And in this way Darwin secured his last primary need - someone compatible with whom to have companionship and a family. And not only that, it came with a bonus - her father was very rich and the money they inherited when he died significantly boosted his funds. That having a family was a need can be seen with the Moon in the 2nd house, and Venus almost exactly on the 4th house cusp, with Vesta in the 4th, also with the ruler of the 4th house (Mars) being in the 10th -also with Mars in Libra Darwin would have enjoyed to have a partner in his life to share his professional struggles and successes with.

Reflecting back at this point to the life Dampier had "¦ where he lived a life as devoid of family as one could be, the Soul was on one of it's last extended "escape efforts". These involved desperate attempts to get away from the inner psychological trauma that was unconscious and unresolved in the soul (Chiron in Aquarius 2nd square the Nodal axis), causing a feeling of anguish, suppressed pain, stagnation and deep frustration. This has driven the Soul to extreme measures as it has tried to grab hold of its destiny and shake this trauma loose. And a life almost permanently at sea certainly was an extreme effort in this direction. But despite furthering the expansion and development of his mind in spectacular fashion Dampier died just as poor and alone as he had been most of his life.

It dawned on him during his last days that "enough was enough", and that he could no longer avoid facing his wounds, continue resisting healing them. And not only would facing them start the massively overdue healing process, but it would also allow him to settle down and have a richer more rounded experience of his life. It had finally become clear that while racing all around the world in pirate ships all his life did facilitate his genuine desire to explore nature, it was also latching onto only one aspect of himself, while at a deeper level running away from the totality of his reality.

Thus the Soul in the life of Darwin made new choices in the face of the same old dynamics, dynamics that still had vestiges of previous life primitiveness in them (a "pro" for a wife on his list was that a wife "would be better than a dog"). It was this dawning awareness of his split nature (such an advanced mind at the expense of emotional health) that caused him to realise he needed to turn his back on another single life, and enter into the fullness and commitment to emotional involvement that a family life entailed. The imminent need for this is shown by Venus in the 3rd being exactly combust the 4th house cusp. Darwin was ready to enter the 4th house in this life for the first time, in what would be a new cycle of relating based on emotional values involving family bonds and nourishment, and the development of inner emotional security. That's another reason why it was essential for Darwin to make these new choices regarding emotions and family in his lifetime.

This was why the Soul created this life with Venus in Aries in the 3rd house - but exactly on the cusp of the 4th house (only a few minutes away from it). Venus being the SN ruler meant that through his listening to himself and to the other people in his life he would be able to access the entire dynamics of his recent past lives, pulling his past feeling=>emotional issues into similar circumstances in his life as Darwin, so they could be relived, re-experienced in a different time but in similar circumstances and situations. And through the reliving of them have the chance to make new, different choices. It was through re-living such dynamics in his relationship with himself, and from that to everyone else, that he could start to address the emotional content in his deeply wounded nature (Chiron in Aquarius 2nd squaring the Nodal axis). Venus in Aries as the SN ruler gave him this link to the past - that Aries/freedom orientated side of himself, so that he could relive his past life issues through his relationships, but in his next steps as part of being an equal with others (the Libra lesson) shown by ...

a) Venus is poised on entering the 4th - family members are generically bonded as equals helping each other to survive. On a personal level (4th house is a personal experience of oneself) Darwin had maintained his full independence in relationships in the past up to this point ... but the Soul has decided (from deep need / the time had come) that in this life its independence needed to be surrendered to a family situation... the family situation that he was inevitably destined to create.

b) Venus being ruled by Mars in Libra - showing that in its most recent life already the Soul had started to move away from the Aries vibration, at least in its dealings with people in the world - if not quite yet personally (see above). At least in its visible dealings in public however, the Soul was learning equality, to act (Mars) in a co-operative manner (Libra) with others.  

So this life was a transition life emotionally, Venus exactly on the cusp of the IC (4th house). It would also have been a transitional life sexually as well. His sexual issues have been extensively discussed by everyone already, but briefly in summary ... as Rad pointed out Darwin was a hypersensitive person (all the planets in Pisces, the close balsamic Saturn/Neptune conjunction in the 12th house -Neptune's home- along with Mars in Libra and the Moon in Capricorn). Combined with the Sun, Moon & Chiron, plus the SN Venus and a whole host of other SNs in the 2nd, creating a packed 2nd house emphasizing the physical side of sex (especially with earthy Capricorn on the 2nd house cusp), as opposed to the 8th house where all the non-physical aspects of sex, emotions & soul, are experienced (which would be especially so for Darwin with watery Cancer on the 8th house cusp). And because 2nd house sex can be achieved on one's own masturbation is always an option. Regardless of whether Darwin was having sex by masturbating, or by having intercourse with Emma, much of the time he would be using sex as a grounding phenomena, to ground his consciousness back into his body. He would need to do this to counter-balance the extreme intensity of his daily thinking, a process that would draw energy and conscious focus from his physical body up into his brain, day after day, leaving him distinctly ungrounded. Obviously Emma participated with him, she also being strongly intellectual.

Yet with Venus at the beginning of the 4th house, and Vesta already in the 4th, during his life there would be a transition to sex based more on physical and emotional vulnerability (Cancer on the 8th house cusp, activated by the Moon, the natural ruler of the 4th house). This would progressively occur once Darwin's professional success (Mars in 10th) ensured financial security  (Capricorn 2nd house via Taurus on 6th) for them as a family (the 4th house, where the final net effect of such success would be felt), and they could relax more deeply into their personal (4th house) and shared emotional energies (8th house). And naturally this would then slowly and gradually be reflected in their ongoing sexual experience with each other. A slow progression like this would not cause a problem for Darwin's inherent shyness (Mars in Libra, Saturn in the 12th, Moon in Capricorn), thus allowing him to safely move into the transition.


Ideals:  Sign on 12th house cusp and its ruler location & aspects, Pisces & Neptune locations, Neptune aspects

With Scorpio on the 12th house cusp, Darwin's ideals would have concerned the deep mysteries of life on Earth; experiencing, understanding, and merging with/becoming them. Deep down he would probably have tended to be agnostic, needing tangible proof that divinity was real, even if intellectually he harboured conditioned religious beliefs in God. And a guaranteed collision would occur whenever beliefs he did have didn't stand up to his actual life experience - producing powerful (Scorpio) disillusionment (12th). It would be through this disillusionment process that his beliefs would be tested and reshaped on a periodic basis. As a result he would have certain strong ideals, for example, that everybody needed to be ready to see their false beliefs, that transformation through experience was good, that life was more than simply material in nature and material in process.

Additionally Pisces is intercepted in the 3rd house (and thus Virgo in the 9th is too). Both these archetypes have been worked upon extensively in past lives (as their rulers have many aspects) and are not needing a lot of work in this life. Plus the ruler of the 12th house cusp (Scorpio) being Pluto in Pisces also restates this. So we know that the Soul's ideals in this life originate from past lives and are thus ancient ideals the Soul has brought along with it. In a Soul in consensus evolutionary condition it would be most likely that these ideals would therefore be unconsciously projected onto all its relationships, but as Darwin was well into the 3rd individuated evolutionary state this is less likely.

Probably he tended to select people he wanted to be close to who he sensed imbibed the same ideals more or less, and maintained his connections with others more on an acquaintance basis. However inevitably he certainly did project some idealistic notions onto his close relationships (Sat/Nep in 12th full opposition"¦ , Mer/Pluto cres square"¦ , Moon gibb sesquiquadrate and Uranus/NN full quincunx..  : all to the 7th house cusp) and would have had a hard time reconciling his feelings when those he was relating to failed to live up to his idealistic expectations - particularly if they weren't prepared to discuss the resulting issues he was concerned about in order to reach a mutual understanding (ruler of 12th, Pluto, in 3rd conj Mercury and Jupiter).

Ultimately in the end though, Darwin may have been fairly philosophical and accepting about his idealistic differences with others (Neptune, natural ruler of the 12th, in the 12th in Sag conj Saturn and on the ASC), especially as he has been pursuing these ideals for many lives and has had many, many battles in past lives on behalf of his religious beliefs, which has encouraged him further into science as a way of finding the actual truth, validating those very same beliefs and the ideals they are based on.

The Soul as Darwin intrinsically knew that these ideals were to be experienced from within rather than vicariously experienced from outside through other people's experience and behavior, or in the form of his relationships (ruler of 12th Pluto is in Pisces, which is ruled by Neptune/Saturn in Sag 12th, which is ruled by Jupiter in Pisces which is ruled by Neptune in the 12th so the buck for manifesting the ideals comes to rest "back home", back where they originated from, back in the 12th house - and hence the innate sense Darwin had that he needed to find his own transcendence from within).

Darwin's marriage wasn't perfect by any means, and while he may not have projected his ideals onto it in a  significant way, it may have often been co-dependent at times (Moon in 2nd square Mars in 10th). Darwin often collapsed under the strain of his terrible ill-health and effectively needed Emma to be his mother and in her fulfilling that role she helped prop up his professional life, while in turn she would have drawn self-esteem. prestige and security from his professional success. However, this arrangement suited them both very well, and the result was that Darwin's marriage was generally supportive, good and loving, lasting his whole life, and he raised many children who overall were happy, many of whom went on to be very successful in their own right.

He was well regarded in scientific circles and by the public alike, and appeared to only ever suffer from one enemy in his whole life, and even that was really only an on-going professional "disagreement" founded on a genuine mistake made by Darwin near the end of a highly distinguished career, but which he handled with grace and equanimity. Certainly from well before the end of his life, Darwin's relating displayed a "Venus in Libra" quality as the result of him reaching for the growth potential of the polarity point of Venus. And in doing so transforming the inner Aries relating vibration he was born with, into one of listening to himself in a more balanced way, with consideration for the needs and feelings of others, resulting in more equality of giving and receiving. Also in a reduction of extremes leading to generally more balance in his relating and his life itself, and the ability to attract people into his life who were themselves well meaning, considerate and highly supportive of him as a person, and as one of the greatest scientists in our history to date.

blessings Upasika
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Post by: Rad on Jun 08, 2013, 09:37 AM
Hi Upasika,

My god your EA work continues to be simply brilliant and beyond to me. Your deep understanding of the archetypes of the signs, houses, and aspects combined you your deft tying together of the lives of Dampier and Darwin, one leading to the other, relative to the evolutionary paradigm that is the very core of EA is simply brilliant. All of your EA reasoning for every determination that you made reflects not only this depth but of course is utterly accurate. Your capacity to understand what the evolutionary astrology that Wolf taught is at a maximum level in my view.

When we remember the core question that many Souls pose for themselves, the questions of 'why am I here, and what are my lessons', your EA capacity to help others answer those questions is not only self evident as demonstrated in your work here, but also in those that you work with personally. You are a natural 'soul worker' as Wolf would have put it. Your are also a natural teacher of this work in my view, and I would hope that at some point you will consider writing material on EA so as to continue to advance it in the world.

Words have limits of course but the I can only use words to say your work is simply the best, it is exceptional, and it is brilliant EA work. For all those who are following and reading this thread you are helping to understand exactly the capacity of EA itself, and how EA is meant to be done.

Bravo !!

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Jun 08, 2013, 06:32 PM
Thank you Rad! This Venus assignment took a lot more time than the previous ones, I guess because all the repeating themes are building up, and needed to be reworked freshly, yet again! But I do feel that learning this method is both driving my understanding of EA deeper than ever, but also simplifying it too.

I'm well aware however, that it is only because of Jeffrey bringing EA to life in the very first place, plus the generosity of all those on the EA council in creating this MB, Steve's constant attention to the administration of it, and your tireless, indispensable efforts in teaching and helping us all, along with the participation of everyone else to make the MB the wonderful resource that it is, that I have been able to learn EA at all.

I started doing astrology very young, and had been doing it for many years before I came across Jeffrey's Pluto I book. And I will be ever grateful that I did, as while I always felt astrology was a great tool it always seemed to be missing something although I was never sure what ... yes it did describe a great deal, but now of course I know that what it was missing was the big fat WHY of things - the Soul. I've been doing EA for 13 years now (came across Jeffrey's book in 1999), but to be honest its only this year that I feel I'm starting to really understand it. Even now, sometimes I look at a chart and my mind just goes blank!

There is so much richness and shades of meaning in the 12 basic archetypes, and then they are manifesting via different phenomena - signs, houses, planets and aspects, which are all intricately linked. So it does take a lot of study. But I'm also learning to trust both my instincts and my intuition much more, trusting that whatever knowledge about a part of a chart that I need will be obvious, or will arise by itself if I reflect and give it a bit of time. But I think when I really started getting more of a sense of EA, was when I started meditating on the paradigm itself - after all, as I now understand it, EA is really about finding our own way past the personality behavior, down through the ego sense of self, to our Soul and beyond. And I've found mediating on any part of that chain very helpful.

As for writing about EA, thank you for suggesting it .... I guess that could be a possibility at some point, I'd never thought of it, so first step I think is let the idea sink in and see what comes of it...

But thank you Rad for being so, so generous with all your incredible expertise, time and energy. I personally appreciate it an enormous amount, and I'm sure many others also feel that way too.

blessings Upasika

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Post by: Gray on Jun 10, 2013, 01:55 AM
Hi Rad and group,

I have not been able to get enough writing together to post yet about Darwin's Venus, so if you need to move on at this point, please do.  I will post something on his Venus as soon as possible.
love,
Gray
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Post by: Rad on Jun 10, 2013, 07:08 AM
Hi Gray,

We can wait Gray. All of us value your participation, plus there is no hurry anyway.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Jun 17, 2013, 09:44 AM
Hi All,

I would like to know how many of you wish to continue developing this thread.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Jun 17, 2013, 02:43 PM
Hi Rad, I'm still keen.
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Post by: ari moshe on Jun 17, 2013, 06:07 PM
I'm definitely still in!
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Post by: mirta on Jun 17, 2013, 07:40 PM
I am in Rad.
God Bless
Mirta
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Gray on Jun 17, 2013, 10:02 PM
Hello Rad and Group,

I also intend to continue participating in this thread, and apologize for not making this post sooner.  I've run across a number of obstacles recently in process of trying to write something, and though it is not as in depth as I would have liked, I would at least like to post what I have at this point.  Thank you for waiting for me, and if I have the time I may make a few modifications to what I have included below.

Investigating the placement of Venus in the birth chart of Charles Darwin through our "planetary method" means exploring the types of values that Darwin lived from and that influenced his beliefs about the meaning of life.  As we have already discussed that the soul intention of Darwin was to investigate the ultimate meaning of life through his intuition, research, and rational scientific method, examining how his Aries Venus influenced his beliefs concerning the meaning of life is very important, as it would influence the way he carried out his scientific method and interpreted the results.  With an Aries Venus at the very end of his third house, Darwin had an intense self motivated drive to expand his consciousness and awareness of mental concepts underpinning the nature of reality.  This Venusian value system influencing the process of his research methodology goes back lifetimes, because his Aries Venus is the ruler of the South Node of his Moon in his 5th House.  As a result his Aries Venus is a major clue to the nature of his past incarnations and their relationship to the life and work of his soul's incarnation as Charles Darwin.

An Aries Venus can often be narcissistic and intensely focused upon fulfilling desires of the self, and this is clearly the case with the past life ego identities of Darwin as the South Node of the Moon his Venus rules is also in the 5th House, meaning his past life identities had a sense of themselves as being special, with an important destiny to fulfill.  In addition his South Node of the Moon is in Taurus, again giving an emphasis toward focusing upon his own internal nature and self-resources as a means to fulfill his special sense of a grand purpose in life.  Incarnating as Charles Darwin with an Aries Venus at the end of his third house means that he would again have an intensely narcissistic value system underpinning his beliefs and motivations, and that he would again have a pull toward getting his own way or using others for his own purposes. It also means that his own glamorized sense of this special purpose he had to fulfill in his lifetime would mean that it would be challenging to fully commit his entire being to another in relationship, for fear of losing himself through enmeshment.  Thus he would have a fear of not being able to complete his important work as a result of putting the needs of others in relationship at least at the same level as his own desire to complete his purpose, or through somehow losing himself in the relationship and putting completion of his purpose at risk as as a result. So, for example in his marriage while he may have outwardly sustained a committed partnership, internally there would have been a part of him more removed and more independently focused upon his own intellectual pursuits.

However, since Darwin has a skipped step of an Aquarius Chiron squaring his lunar nodal axis and a Scorpio Uranus conjunct his North Node of the Moon, it also means that in past lives Darwin had also begun a process of evolutionary development.  However, these symbols indicate that it oftentimes took a crisis, at times even a cataclysmic crisis of intense trauma, to basically force him to move out of his own self-preoccupation and evolve his consciousness forward toward a more objective understanding that there are countless other special people in the world who have just as much right as he does to follow and fulfill their own special purposes in life, as well as that by forming relationships with others he could combine with them toward a more collective purpose instead of his own specialized individual life purpose.  In other words, in one way or another he would take his self-obsessed Aries Venus value system and find a way to use his special sense of purpose to serve the greater humanity and fulfill the collective needs instead of his own personal egocentric needs.  The Uranus and 11th house signatures combined with Scorpio would also indicate an evolutionary purpose to objectify his intense soul desires and come to a greater wholistic understanding of his nature, ultimately helping him liberate himself from past limitations.  Thus these birth chart symbols in totality indicate that Darwin incarnated with an Aries Venus again in order to have the self-focused drive to follow through with his special purpose (which truly was important because of the extraordinary impact it would make upon the consciousness of humankind), but that in this incarnation he would be provided with opportunities to make new choices that would lead to more of a balance between pursuing his own passions and purposes and being aware of the needs, purposes, and passions of loved ones and other fellow humans in his path.  His soul coming into its incarnation as Charles Darwin from a series of traumatic lifetimes in which it experienced intense crises, and as Darwin displaying a repressed nature at times that could be interpreted as being frozen in a way from this past life trauma, one reason Darwin had a Venus in Aries was to give him such an intense focus on self and his impulsive desires that he couldn't help but be moved into action at times by his Aries value system in a manner that wasn't just about being obsessed with himself, it would also have the purpose of helping him recover his essential Self from limitations of past conditioning.

Furthermore, the intensity of his past life trauma is so extreme it was like Darwin was operating from a perspective of post-traumatic stress from birth, without even being aware of it.  The fact that Chiron is his skipped step, and he was born over a century before the discovery of Chiron, is an additional symbol to me of how unconscious this trauma would have been for him.   His birth chart symbols also indicate that in this lifetime he would again face crises and traumas to force himself out of his own bubble and gain greater awareness of the presence and needs of others- since his Aries Venus is conjunct his IC and his fourth house cusp, this issue became important with regards to the marriage and family he created.  It has been brought up in this thread that his soul's previous incarnation was as the famous sea explorer William Dampier, a man who achieved great fame for himself through navigating around the world and publishing written accounts of his adventures that brought him a great following of readers.  Dampier had a progression of first being essentially a pirate who would have been focused upon taking from others in order to perpetuate his own survival needs, to eventually a celebrated explorer and author who also took advantage at times of indigenous people he met in order to parade them about society and increase his own fame in the process.  Dampier also had to defend himself against charges of cruelty and abuse against members of his own crew, and as a man spending most of his time sailing around the globe, he of course would not have been much of a devoted family man or romantic partner. All of these historical fragments about Dampier lend themselves to a portrait of a man who put a lot of energy and focus into succeeding at his own endeavors and acquiring a great amount of knowledge for himself that he could communicate in a third house manner to the world.   In contrast, we can see the placement of Venus in Aries being at the very end of the third house and conjunct the IC and fourth house cusp in the incarnation of Charles Darwin to be a symbol of how Darwin did make choices to sustain a committed marriage and to be part of the life of his children, even though at the same time he was obsessed with his own intellectual pursuits and communication with the world at large.  His soul has a deep history of conflicts between home, family, and career pursuits, and in the life of Charles Darwin these conflicts were brought up in sharp relief.

Further information about the influence of previous lifetimes through the placement of Darwin's Aries Venus can be seen in the fact that the South Node of Darwin's Venus is in Capricorn in his second house, conjunct his natal Capricorn Moon, as well as the south nodes of Jupiter, Pluto, Saturn, Vesta, and Mercury.  The second house placement of this South Node of Venus, as well as the fact his Aries Venus rules his South Node of the Moon in taurus, means that Darwin's Venus has a deep connection with survival issues going back lifetimes, and the other planetary south nodes indicate his survival resources included his beliefs, communication and perceptual skills, and understanding of ultimate reality.  As JWG has written, the archetype of Venus correlates with the archetype of survival in every Soul, however, in the case of Darwin this is an especially strong correlation, since the South Node of his Moon is in Taurus and ruled by his Aries Venus.  The soul of Darwin had learned that it could rely upon it's own internal resources, in particular it's highly developed mind and communication skills, in order to survive and in some lifetimes even flourish with a degree of fame.  However, other symbols associated with his second house, such as his skipped step of Aquarius Chiron squaring his lunar nodes, indicate that he also could have faced traumatic survival issues at times that led him to become even more fixated and locked into looking to himself in order to survive instead of being open to merging with others.  Darwin's strong Capricorn energy in his second house also indicates that the value system his soul developed across lifetimes became heavily conditioned by society, and with a Saturn in the 12th House conjunct Jupiter, also strongly conditioned by dominant religious thoughts and beliefs of the time.  At the same time, however, with his evolutionary development in an 11th house direction already partially developed, and with an Aquarius Sun also in his 2nd house, another element of the value system of Darwin's was that he had an intention to ultimately liberate himself from these conditioned values.  Thus, he was a complex character who had highly conditioned values he was living from as well as a value system that led him to want to liberate himself from this same conditioning.

Indeed, part of the evolutionary intention of Darwin having an Aries Venus in his third house is simply the exact placement of Venus itself, as the north node of his Venus is also in Aries and also conjunct the natal placement of his Venus in the third house.  Thus, by following the lead of his Aries Venus and all of its aspects, he will be on the evolutionary path of his Venus, which involves helping to liberate him from past conditioning of belief systems dominating the cultures he lived within in past incarnations of his soul.  This is partially done through Darwin re-living and re-experiencing past incarnational issues and soul wounds symbolized by the fact that this same Aries Venus is also the ruler of his south node of the Moon and so the themes of his past life ego identity.  So his Aries Venus is yet another symbol of this, similar to how his North Node of the Moon is in Scorpio and ruled by his Pluto, meaning he would have an evolutionary intention of re-living and re-triggering past incarnational issues.  We can see this in some of the main aspects of his Venus: for one, his Aries Venus being in balsamic semi-sextile to his South Node of the Moon reveals how it's self-centered focus would help him center on more timeless visions his soul had been developing across lifetimes that would lead him to let go of his past conditioning, and open himself to new ideas and impulses that could help move him more toward his evolutionary purpose of serving the collective needs of humanity.  Furthermore, since his Aries Venus is in a gibbous inconjunct to his North Node of the Moon and Uranus in Scorpio, it shows how this evolutionary development to serve humanity would involve lessons of humility in which he would find a way to use his special abilities to serve the whole, instead of the narcissistic needs of his Aries Venus.  Again, this aspect also indicates that this process would involve experiencing crises, and with his soul history most likely they would at times be crises that would re-trigger deep soul wounds in order to help him adjust and modify his Aries Venus value system to align with the needs of his external social environment.  The intensity of his experiences in the end could help him dissolve his limiting past conditioning, and this can be seen in the fact his Aries Venus is also in a first quarter trine to a Sagitarius Saturn conjunct Neptune in his 12th House, a dissolving 12th House conjunction whose planets together rule his Capricorn Moon, South Node of Venus conjunct a stellium of South Nodes of planets, and his Pisces Pluto and Mercury.  As a result of being full of himself in a very Aries Venus manner, he would in the end lead himself into intense situations and other experiences that would force him to face his evolutionary issues.

Darwin's Aries Venus also correlates with the narcissistic and self-absorbed inner relationship his Soul had to himself, which then became the basis for how he related to others.  So the past life identity of Darwin that his Aries Venus ruled came into this, and he tended to often relate to others in accord with how they could help him fulfill his own special purpose.  Likewise, his own resulting inner magnetism would attract similar figures who would also look to use Darwin to aid their own purposes.  So in this way he could have relationships in which he got something out of them in order to help him complete his own missions, and in which he would also help them at other times with their own missions. Thus a strong component of the intense curiosity his Third House Venus would express would be tied into listening to how others could help him.  When listening to others in conversation, for example, his perception could be focused upon the information he could glean that would ultimately help him with his own intellectual work, instead of listening out of pure interest in the perspective and experience of the other person.  As a result at times this could make Darwin appear to others like a self-obsessed intellectual who was more interested in his own mental pursuits than genuine emotional connection with others.  This can be seen in how Darwin decided to get married in part because of a more rational analysis of how a marriage could help him in life, instead of through an intense passionate desire to merge with the being of a lover.  Through the mirror side of his internal relationship with himself, it also indicates that in his external relationships he would also be used by others for their own purposes.  With the self-focused nature of an Aries Venus, Darwin would be hypersensitive about being used in this way by others upon realizing it, even though he himself may have been doing it at times, and this would contribute to his periods of extreme depression and introspection. As a result he could have a feeling of disillusionment, and this would help explain how he could at times seem so dynamic and persistent about pursuing his special sense of destiny, and at other times appear to be hypersensitive and mired in deep levels of depression and darkness, including making himself ill in the process.

I feel part of the Libra side of Darwin's Aries Venus can be seen in how not only does Gemini rule the cusp of his seventh house, that his Venus is in his Third House.  Combined with the creative and energetic nature of his Venus being in Aries and ruling his South Node of the Moon in Taurus, it would mean that he would be able to form relationships with other narcissistic and self-focused beings who had a strong sense of self and highly developed internal resources.  These people would be highly successful in some way in the external world, and with Darwin's interests most likely in an intellectual capacity in some way.  With his Aries Venus, Darwin could be quite charming with these relationships and ingratiate himself with them in a manner that they would follow through with helping him in some way.  This can be seen in Darwin's ability to win over extremely influential mentors and friends and every stage of his lifetime.  Another symbol of this would be that his Aries Venus is ruled by a Libra Mars in his 10th House, and that in addition these relationships could trigger old incarnational issues since his Libra Mars squares his Capricorn Moon that is conjunct his stellium of south nodes of planets, including the south node of Venus.  One example of a relationship like this would be Alfred Wallace- on the one hand, Darwin made choices to align more with his 11th house soul direction by deciding to help promote Wallace instead of entering open competition with him for developing similar ideas.  However, at the same time Wallace could have been triggering for Darwin since while on the one hand they shared commonality in belief and intellectual theorizing, at the same time they had some sharp differences, and Wallace in particular held some beliefs that seemed to strike at the core of some of Darwin's conditioned beliefs he seemed to have difficulty liberating himself from.

In addition, Darwin's Aries Venus being in the third house that is associated with the Gemini archetype would bring up the polarity JWG described as a "reactive process" of "thought possibilities" in which he would learn about himself "through cycles of contraction which are induced as a reaction to excessive expansion" (Pluto book II, p. 140).  In this way his Venus connects to his deep soul work of intense mental pursuits, going to the extremes of mental curiosity, research, and expression, only to come up against an obstacle or simply a sense  to turn back inside in a more internal direction to withdraw and reflect in the face of acquiring an extreme level of new information and knowledge through his variety of mental pursuits.  In this way the extremity of intellectual pursuits would enter a process of re-balancing by him also going through periods of solitude and withdrawal from the world and his intellectual striving.  In Darwin's case, again the idea of a crisis forcing this withdrawal at times can be observed, such as his repeated bouts with sickness and illness of one kind or another, as well as the death of beloved children or the risk of death of loved ones through illness.

Finally, Darwin's Venus correlates with his sense of feelings through the self-absorbed and intellectually obsessed placement of his Venus in Aries and the Third House.  Darwin could be hypersensitive and find ways to interpret stimuli in his environment to be about himself, to be a threat or insult to his sense of self in some way.  With a Libra Mars in the 10th house that is square to his second house Capricorn Moon, it is almost as if he couldn't help himself in forming relationships and asserting his Will into his external environment in a way that would ultimately trigger situations that would be deeply wounding to himself.  This wounding, however, and extreme hypersensitivity, was serving a purpose of ultimately helping Darwin evolve if he could in the end objectify this emotional process and come to more of an understanding of the folly of him taking everything so personally on an emotional level.

Sexually, I feel the paradox of Darwin appearing to have been very repressed sexually, yet having an Aries Venus which can often correlate with a strong sexual nature and magnetism, can be better understood through the placement of Venus being at the end of the third house, and so still connected in some way with the Gemini archetype and so there could have been a more mental orientation to his sexuality.  So in this way, part of his liberation from past sexual conditioning could have happened to a degree within in his own mind, with him thinking about various sexual scenarios and doing various sexual thought experiments in a way in which he would consider in his mind a wide variety of sexual experiences and even techniques.  Thus his Venus being in Aries would on an instinctual level bring more thoughts of sexuality into his mind, so that even though he may not have been acting upon these sexual desires, there would have still been an internal process of liberating himself from past sexual conditioning occurring inside himself.

peace and love,
Gray
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Kristin on Jun 18, 2013, 11:12 AM
Hi Rad,

I am also definitely still IN....

peace,
Kristin
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Jun 18, 2013, 11:17 AM
Hi Gray,

Well it was certainly worth the wait for your brilliant EA analysis of Darwin's Venus placement in it's totality. You deftly integrated his natal placement of Venus with it's South and North Nodes within the context of the ongoing evolutionary journey of the Soul of Darwin. Through this interaction of the past leading to the current life of Darwin you correctly used the previous life of Dampier to do so. Your EA reasoning was exceptionally sound for all that you diagnosed. This is how EA is meant to be done and, in so doing, you are helping all those that come to the thread to read and learn from it. The one dynamic/ archetype that was not sufficiently developed relative to his Venus was the sexual one. Our next step in this planetary method will of course be Mars. Thus, we all have the opportunity to develop more deeply and thoroughly the sexual dynamics of the Soul of Darwin.

Simply brilliant EA work Gray.

Bravo !

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Jun 19, 2013, 09:54 AM
Hi Ari, Kristin, Gray, Upasika, and Mirta............

I am very happy that you all desire to keep developing this thread on the Planetary Method. We will begin again tomorrow, Thursday, in our next step in the planetary sequence for Darwin: Mars.

If you have any questions please ask them of me now.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Jun 20, 2013, 10:03 PM
Hi Gonzalo, great you're back.
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Jun 21, 2013, 09:34 AM
Hi Gonzalo, Upasika, Ari, Gray, Mirta, and Kristin..............

First so good to have you back Gonzalo. Yeah. I have decided to wait until Monday next to begin our next step in the Planetary paradigm with Mars.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Jun 24, 2013, 08:40 AM
Hi Gonzalo, Upasika, Ari, Gray, Mirta, and Kristin..............

Ok, so we have now come to our next step in the Planetary Method of understanding the EA of Darwin's birth chart. We will now focus on the planet Mars that correlates to the lower octave of Pluto. As such, Mars correlates to the instinctual acting out, acting upon, the evolutionary desires that manifest within the Soul. JWG said it correlates to the 'leading edge' of the Soul's evolution at any point in time wherein the Soul is in a constant state of 'becoming'. All of our Souls are of course in a constant and continual state of becoming.

Because of this the Mars archetype correlates to the necessary need for circumstantial freedom in order to act upon the desires emanating from the Soul itself. These desires manifest instinctively through Mars that within the egocentric consciousness of the Soul, the ego it creates in each life, as impulses that are immediate to any given moment in time. In other words, there is not a lot of forethought connected to these impulsive desires that correlate to the constant state of becoming. The Soul wants freedom to act upon them wherein the reaction to the initiated desires then correlates to self knowledge: because of the reaction.

These desires that manifest from the Soul, Pluto, through it's lower octave, Mars, are always within the total evolutionary context of any given Soul: it's entire past that is always interfacing with each moment in time. Thus, to understand that past is critical to understanding how Mars manifests in any given birth chart. Part of that past of course correlates with the S.Node of Mars by house, sign, and the aspects to it. Additionally, the planetary ruler of that S.Node by it's own house, sign, and aspects further correlates to that past. The nature of each moment will correlate with the natal Mars by house, sign, and aspects to it.

The N.Node of Mars, as all N.Nodes do, will correlate with the intended evolutionary future of the Soul. BECAUSE OF THESE INTENTIONS the N.Nodes of any planet, including Mars, will influence or help condition the very nature of the desires manifesting through the natal position of Mars. Thus, it is essential to understand the house, sign, and aspects to the N.Node as well as the location of it's planetary ruler by it's own house, sign, and aspects.

In totality, then, this correlates to a natural trinity wherein that trinity correlates with the past and future and interfaced in the dynamic tension of each moment of the Soul's life.

So looking into Darwin's chart we see that his natal Mars is in Libra in his 10th House that is not only making a crescent phase square to his Moon in Capricorn in the 2nd, but all of the S.Nodes within that house: Pluto, Jupiter, Venus, Mercury, Vesta, and Saturn. It is also making squares to the N.Nodes of Pluto and Saturn in Cancer which are conjunct the 7th and 8th House cusps. Of course those Nodes are ruled by the Moon in which Mars is squaring.

Those squares to/ from these Nodes to natal Mars DO NOT CORRELATE TO SKIPPED STEPS. They do correlate to the evolutionary needs of the Soul, the developmental stress that is so symbolized, in such a way that until this evolutionary need is actualized in full the Soul will keep itself in this state of developmental/ evolutionary stress until it is actualized. As we can see this existing evolutionary/ developmental stress with the Soul of Darwin has been carried forwards from it's most recent prior lives.

By understanding this critical evolutionary issue is then to understand why Darwin's Soul also chose, in the context of the life as Darwin, his Mars in Libra in the 10th is trine his natal Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd House. This Sun of course is ruled by Uranus in Scorpio in the 11th, conjunct the N.Node of the Moon. As we know this means that that N.Node, thus Uranus, has been acted upon prior to the current life. This restates the the existing developmental/evolutionary stress that has been brought into the current life that is, again, symbolized by his Mars squaring all those S.Nodes in Capricorn, and the two N.Nodes in Cancer.

Mars of course also correlates with the very nature of the sexual desires that a Soul has wherein the nature such desires also correlate with the ongoing evolutionary journey of any given Soul. These desires manifest in the current life by way of the natal sign of Mars, the house, the the aspects to it. Yet, as we have just discussed, it is essential to understand the entire evolutionary paradigm of Mars in total: the S.Node of Mars, etc, etc, etc. , that 'sets up' the current life placement of Mars: the 'why' of it. And the N.Node of Mars, as discussed above, correlates with the intended evolutionary future for Mars that then influences or conditions the natal placement of Mars itself.

As we just learned in our last step, Venus, this correlates with essential needs. Needs that correlate with others in our lives, and needs with have within our self that must be met by ourselves. Needs that are projected upon others thus correlates with the expectations we have for those others in our lives.

Thus, when combined with Mars, sexually speaking, the types of sexual needs with have that are projected upon others, and the meaning we give to those projected desires. As a result, sexual expectations we have with others, as well as the types of sexual desires and expectations that are projected from others upon oneself which is rooted in the nature of the specific type of magnetism emanating from within the Soul itself: Venus combined with Pluto.

So looking now into Darwin's birth chart, given all that we have developed thus far, let's now create an evolutionary understanding as to the nature of the Mars in his chart in it's totality. How does the core EA paradigm, Pluto, Nodes, Rulers of those Nodes, Pluto's polarity point, symbolizing the ongoing evolutionary journey of the Soul of Darwin manifest through the leading edge of his life, Mars, by way of the desires manifesting through it ? What has been the prior life context that of itself is a determinant of those desires and why including the S.Node of Mars and the location of it's planetary ruler been ? How is the N.Node of Mars by house and sign location, aspects to it, and the location of it's planetary ruler influencing or conditioning the very nature of the desires manifesting through the natal position of Mars ? What types of sexual desires will manifest through natal Mars by sign, house, and aspects to it ? How has the S.Node of Mars by house, sign, and aspects to it, the location of it's planetary ruler by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it correlate to a determinant that is the causative factor for the natal Mars ?

Relative to the S.Node of Venus, the location of it's planetary ruler, in the houses and signs that that they are in, aspects to them, correlate to the prior life needs and expectations projected on others interface with Mars by way of sexual desires and needs that Darwin would have had, and will have in the current life: natal Venus and natal Mars ? How do the N.Nodes of Mars and Venus, houses, signs, aspects, influence those desires and expectations, and why this is ?

If you have any questions please ask them of me now.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Jul 01, 2013, 11:28 AM
Hi Rad, just wanted to let you know I am out for this week and will return this weekend. At that time I will begin to work on this. Thanks again for this space.
With love, am
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Jul 02, 2013, 09:36 AM
Hi Ari,

Thanks for letting me know.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: mirta on Jul 06, 2013, 08:44 AM
Hi Rad,
I am beginning to work with Mars.

I have some doubts regarding Planetary Node's phases:
1.   Is always Sun the reference point?
2.   I am considering Planetary Nodes (South and North) as reference point regarding planets and asteroids because their slower motion. Is that correct?
3.    SN Mars is square PPP, which is the reference point?   
Thanks so much
God Bless
Mirta
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Post by: Rad on Jul 06, 2013, 09:31 AM
Hi Mirta,

Quote from: mirta on Jul 06, 2013, 08:44 AM
Hi Rad,
I am beginning to work with Mars.

I have some doubts regarding Planetary Node's phases:
1.   Is always Sun the reference point?

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Yes

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2.   I am considering Planetary Nodes (South and North) as reference point regarding planets and asteroids because their slower motion. Is that correct?

*********

Yes

**********

3.    SN Mars is square PPP, which is the reference point?   

******

PPP.............

***********


God bless, Rad
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Post by: Gonzalo on Jul 07, 2013, 08:29 PM
Hi Rad, and group ..

.. ok "¦"¦ I'll attempt a succinct and simple analysis of some aspects of the natal Mars archetype of Charles ..

God Bless, Gonzalo


Mars is the lower octave of Pluto .. Pluto in the 3rd House Pisces reflects desires to know all "¦ then, Mars in the 10th House reflects the instinctive acting out of this desire to know all in a way which is focused on finitude, ie. the material plane.. Because Pluto in the 3rd House Pisces reflects insecurity in face of the unknown, which is combined with the desires to know all, Mars in Libra reflects desires for confirmation of the knowledge or findings. It also reflects desires to have the knowledge arranged in some structural consistent and organized way: complete and "˜systematic' knowledge which can be presented as a whole or as a body of knowledge. Being in the 10th House, Mars as a lower octave of the 3rd House Pluto reflects instinctual impulse to seek confirmation from the "˜father' or authority figures, or society as a whole. Because the 3rd House and Pisces are dual archetypes, and Libra correlates with extremes, and because relative to the evolutionary stage Mars in the 10th House correlates with an ongoing rebellion and rage against conditioning factors, we can see that a paradoxical situation and an alternation of dynamics have been in place. The alternation has been an alternation between a dynamic of seeking validation from society, and rebelling against the need for social validation. We can see the desire for validation as connected to the South Node in the 5th House Taurus, ruled by Venus in the 3rd House Aries. Thus, desires to accommodate or confine the knowledge which the Soul is after or which is presented, to socially valid parameters. And we can see on the other hand the extreme of rebellion against validation as connected to the North Node Uranus conjunct in the 11th House Scorpio, ruled by Pluto: wanting just the knowledge, free from these types of social limitations. The alternation has also played out in another way. Because Libra correlates to giving, and not giving, and receiving and not receiving, there has been an ongoing crisis-the archetypical inconjuncts between the 3rd and the 10th Houses, and between Pisces and Libra- relating to giving or not giving, or sharing, knowledge forms, within social context, and the expectations to receive or not receive social validation or support-to be heard -Libra-by others in society. The theme of giving or sharing findings or knowledge forms is further reflected in the birthchart by Gemini being in the 7th House cusp, with Mercury in the 3rd House, and by Venus being in the 3rd House. And of course, in the Pluto/Mars relationship being within the Full phase. The potential of having the freedom to explore or to expand knowledge conditioned because of the need to present the outcome of the exploration to a social context and/or projected expectations of validation by others is also reflected in the sextile between the Sagittarius Ascendant and the Libra MC, in the Mars/Jupiter inconjunct, with the south node of Jupiter in the 1st House, and the north node of Jupiter in the 7th House; and the south node of the Libra Mars itself is in the 1st House in Sagittarius, conjunct the south node of Uranus. Also the Mercury/Lucifer opposition in Pisces Virgo, 3rd House to 9th House, squaring the 1st and 7th house cusps. Thus, there has been a conflict within the Soul revolving around sharing knowledge which can be valued by society, or being totally free to explore without needing to feed social demands and based only on the desires to know, and same time, an intellectual crisis creating doubt, that conditions both the freedom to explore new grounds, and the ways to give to others. Conditioning the exploration to a need to share with others socially has demanded to explore within parameters. An example of these parameters could be socially defined disciplines, ie. biology, or botany, zoology, geology, and the specialized methodologies and rules of each discipline. On the other extreme, rebellion against the conditioning has created a situation of having no parameters that would define the field, the subject or the methodology-Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd House-equaling confusion and difficulty to articulate any coherent knowledge form. Relative to the Moon's nodes, thus, there have been at least four different situations in relation with sharing or not sharing, and rebelling or accepting the limitations or parameters. One situation has been defined by being limited by the desires to be validated creating a fixity in the orientation to knowledge by wanting to be an authority that conforms to, and confirms, social disciplines. Other situation has involved wanting to be an authority which however delivers forms of knowledge which are not acceptable by society, and which are totally rejected by society. A third situation has been triggered by social rejection, in which a desire has prevailed to preserve or retain the prior knowledge forms and beliefs. A fourth situation, also triggered by rejection, has been based on premature liberation from parameters leading to confusion, delusions and incoherence. There is a yod pattern focused on the South Node with the Ascendant and the MC, which reflects an intense crisis in the personality revolving around the issue of  what the personal role is and how to actualize self - 5th House - in relation to the conflicting demands to be free to explore and to serve social needs. As Rad clarified, the square Mars forms with the nodes of Jupiter, Saturn and Pluto in the 1st/2nd and 7th/8th Houses reflects evolutionary stress the Soul needs to address before it can move on, which it seems to me would be related to these issues, and which has been intensified because of extremes responses to the conflicting demands.

Within the paradox created because of these dynamics, a situation exists in which the Soul needs to deliver in a socially acceptable presentation knowledge forms which are essentially shocking for society itself. One specific reason for this situation and need, is rooted in a natural law I feel exists about knowledge, which demands that existing knowledge has to be shared, before the individual can gain more knowledge, as if a container needed to be emptied before it can be filled again. Rather than some specific natural law about knowledge, it would be an application of the natural law of sharing, that one has to give in order to receive. What is given is released. Thus, with the 10th House Mars being in Libra, the Soul has needed to learn what to give, and what not to give, and how to give it-what form to adopt-the 10th House and the squares to the Capricorn Moon and nodes-in order to be of benefit for society and culture. The requirement to give or share knowledge socially is obviously beyond a need for social validation or support: Mars is ruled by Venus in Aries, conjunct the 4th House cusp, Venus being the ruler of the South Node in the 5th House, and the north node of Mars is in the 4th House in Aries: thus no accommodation to expectations that would condition the knowledge, but only to the necessary forms and to existing needs, and no dependency on being personally accepted or valued. Not a matter of exchange, but rather, an inner requirement for knowledge processing within the Soul, because through the act of giving, the given is objectified and takes a definite form. Thus, if we agree that there is a collective quest of humanity to understand the place of the human species within nature, and to evolve beyond illusions, opinions, and beliefs about such place (natal Pluto 3rd House Pisces, Pluto polarity point in the 9th House), Darwin's Soul needed to listen-Libra-what the humans, and culture, and society, needed to know, and to create a determinate and consistent effort to give to humans, culture and society the type of knowledge in an acceptable form, what they needed in order to advance in such quest.

The need for an acceptable form-10th House-in order for such knowledge to be received was emphasized because of the implied shocks that this would create, because of the necessary rebellion and deconditioning relative to prior beliefs, ie. that the human species-10th House- is just one species among others, being essentially equal among all species-Libra- having "˜quantitative' differences but not a qualitative difference, and having evolved from "˜lower' species. "How to tell them what they don't want to hear, in a way they can listen to it?" How to give them what they need, but they don't want to receive, in a way that they may be willing to accept?" becoming pregnant questions within the Soul. In order to do so, the Soul needed to become not only objective in listening to what is needed-Mars Libra trine Sun Aquarius 2nd House, North Node in the 11th conjunct Uranus-but fundamentally self-reliant and non-dependent from whatever feedback comes it way as a result from the message delivered-Mars Libra ruled by Venus in Aries, north node of Mars in the 4th House Aries, North Node in the 11th House. This seems to me as a core issue creating the evolutionary stress reflected in the Mars square to the Pluto/Saturn/Jupiter nodes. The Mars square to the south nodes of Pluto/Jupiter/Saturn in Capricorn occurring within the Last Quarter phase reflects desires to liberate from social obligations in the past that could limit the Soul's freedom. The Mars square to the north nodes of Pluto/Saturn in Cancer occurring within the First Quarter phase reflects the ongoing intention to chose a form, a crisis involved in choosing an adequate vehicle to manifest the knowledge, observations the Soul has been collecting along lifetimes, which, even though being highly personal-First Quarter square, and further, Mars rules the 4th and 5th Houses-needs to serve the needs of the collective. Thus, the Soul is highly reflective about how to comply with this evolutionary intention-Mars 10th House, square the Capricorn 2nd House Moon, within the Crescent phase. And yet, despite the need for inner contemplation, the need is also to monitor social environment in order to evaluate what needs to be given, and how the given is received on an ongoing basis. There is evidence that Darwin felt utterly insecure about the soundness or truth of the theories he presented, and about his overall orientation to science.  

It is interesting to observe some exact transits to Darwin's birthchart at the time when Origin of the Species was first published on 24 November 1859. Transiting Pluto was Rx conjunct natal South Node, the transiting North Node was Balsamic conjunct the natal Chiron skipped steps, transiting Jupiter was Rx exactly squaring natal Mars from the natal 8th House within the Disseminating phase, transiting Mercury was New phase conjunct the south node of Mars in Sagittarius. These symbols reflect a repetition or relive of prior chapters in which the Soul needed to re-embrace the felt importance of the knowledge to be given or disseminated, versus withdrawing, and to recreate the experience of "˜shock', thus enforcing the need for total self-reliance. When doing so, Darwin in fact carved a new discipline within an existing discipline, when laying the foundations of "˜evolutionary biology'.

Because of the specificity of this Mars leading edge intention, and the reasons for it, there's not much freedom for random exploration, and the intentions for current lifetime are very conditioned by the past. Only freedom to do what it needed to do. The instinctive nature of the Soul is also quite restricted, and narrowed in its scope within parameters and within a need for a reflection and considered response-Mars in the 10th House Libra, Sagittarius on the 1st House cusp ruled by Jupiter in the 3rd Pisces House inconjunct Mars within the Full phase-the needs of society.  

"¦ other level of the Mars archetype relates to the sexual instinct of the Soul. Mars in the 10th House reflects a sexual nature that has been intensely repressed through patriarchal conditioning. I note that the progressed Mars went into retrograde motion when Darwin was 15/16, just entering puberty, and this is the time Darwin states his life-long health problems began. With the south node of Mars being in the 1st House Sagittarius, ruled by Jupiter in the 3rd House Pisces, inconjunct Mars, there is an inherent crisis that relates to how the sexual instinct has been applied in the past, relative to changing cultural structures and taboos, and man-made religions and morals. Mars in the 10th House ruler of the 4th and 5th Houses, Mars squaring the Moon in Capricorn in the 2nd House, Mars ruled by Venus in the 3rd House Aries conjunct the 4th House cusp, and Vesta in Aries in the 4th House, relates to sexualization of relationships within links of kinship, ie. siblings. With the south node of Mars in the 1st House Sagittarius ruled by Jupiter Pisces 3rd House, this south node of Mars being conjunct the south node of Uranus in Sagittarius, with Uranus being in the 11th House Scorpio, relates to how the natural sexual instinct operated within pre-patriarchal families/groups, in which sexuality was a natural vehicle for knowledge, and sacred knowledge, and to experience union with the whole - Neptune Sagittarius is conjunct the Ascendant and trine Venus/Vesta. There's trauma connected with how the family structure changed under patriarchal rule, and how sex with siblings and/or mother figures became taboo-Uranus 11th House Scorpio conjunct the North Node, Chiron square the nodal axis, south node of Chiron in the 4th House Aries, exactly opposed by Mars, ruled by Venus in Aries the 3rd House, Mars in the 10th House, Pluto in the 3rd House (the nature of taboos correlates with Pluto and Saturn). The stress symbolized by the Mars square to the nodes of Pluto/Saturn/Jupiter is also connected with this core issue.

There have been prior lifetimes in which the Soul rebelled against the prohibition of sex with siblings-Mars in the 10th House, ruled by Venus in the 3rd House, Venus being the ruler of the 11th House, Uranus in Scorpio in the 11th House conjunct the North Node, its ruler being Pluto in the 3rd House, Mars square the south node of Vesta. And of course there is intense past trauma originating in the outcomes of these rebellions, based on judgments rooted on patriarchal moralities, and I also see in these symbols the potential of "˜deaths', possibly deaths of children resulting from "˜incestuous' unions. The unions were based not only on a rebellion, but of course on compelling attractions because of prior Soul connections, and the common background between the Souls which were a source of deep security at an emotional level-Venus conjunct the 4th House cusp, conjunct Vesta in the 4th House, Cancer on the 8th House cusp, the Moon conjunct the south node of Vesta. Thus, the Mars in the 10th House cusp reflects a resulting repression and suppression of the sexual instinctual nature of the Soul, translating into submission to patriarchal sexual standards, based on the nature of these types of traumas, and deep permeating guilt within the Soul. The suppression or repression of sexual desires has created a series of manifestations along many lifetimes, including sexual confusion-south node of Mars in the 1st House ruled by Jupiter Pisces 3rd House-and confusion about gender identity. This is based on the Soul's natural receptive-yin-nature, and natural openness to a diversity of sexual explorations, which though, has been concealed because of patriarchal conditioning in order to present an appearance-Libra- of conformity with male standards, translating most likely into a perfunctory sexuality in which the individual has desired to be accepted as "˜normal' in sexual terms, and in which the Soul has created barriers to feeling-becoming more or less sexually frozen. Thus, the repression of sexual energy, and anal retentivity, has been a source of all types of emotional and energy distortions, and of strange sensations, angst, the panic attacks, fibromyalgia, etc. The Soul intends to integrate the female natural polarity within consciousness-Mars in Libra-and is in a process of integrating emotion back into sexual experience-north node of Mars in the 4th House, Mars square to the Cancer nodes of Pluto/Saturn- and this has needed to occur within socially acceptable parameters-Mars in the 10th House. Within the socially accepted relationships, or with itself, the Soul intends to be more free to explore and liberate existing fixations of the sexual energy-Mars trine the 2nd House Sun in Aquarius. Thus, the relationship with Emma, his first cousin. First cousins are a "˜limit' situation in most of regulations of incest, the first accepted degree of kinship in which marriage is accepted, and thus, a situation which is generally quite uncommon to actually occur, because it is "˜almost' taboo. Emma had Venus in Aries too, ruling her natal South Node in Taurus, and her Venus is ruled by Mars in Taurus, so her nature most likely was highly sexed and self-affirmative in sexual terms-Venus is also the ruler of her Taurus Sun which conjuncts Mars. This is not sure because I don't know what her evolutionary state was, but the fact she accepted Charles diverging opinions points to at least some degree of individuation. Her natal Vesta is in Pisces, and falls in Charles 3rd House, and the south node of her Vesta is in Aquarius conjunct her Juno, conjuncting Charles Chiron skipped steps. The combined Venus in Aries conjuncts the Aries Sun and trines Mars in Leo, and Venus/Sun and Mars form a Gran Trine with Neptune in Sagittarius, which is ruled by Jupiter in Pisces New phase conjunct Vesta, so, we can see in these symbols the potential of prior Vesta type connections, either actual or at the level or archetypes and energy, and a sexual purpose for the relationship creating an intense flow of natural sexual energy between their Souls, serving for Charles to heal past wounds and promoting integration and "˜knowledge'.  
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Jul 08, 2013, 10:33 AM
Hi Gonzalo,

Your EA analysis of the Mars placement chosen by the Soul of Darwin, and all of it's related connections, is simply brilliant EA work. Your EA reasoning is exceptionally sound and, of course, totally accurate. You have understood how the 'leading edge' of Mars, as it is the lower octave of Pluto, exactly manifests in the CONTEXT on the ongoing evolutionary journey of the Soul of Charles Darwin by way of the desires to be acted upon. You have demonstrated how this has manifested not only in his career or work in the world, but also his personal sexual life, and why that life.

This is how EA is meant to be done. In so doing you are helping all others who come to this thread to read about it. Thank you for taking the time and effort to do this Gonzalo.

Bravo !!

God Bless, Rad

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Post by: Kristin on Jul 09, 2013, 05:16 PM
Hi Rad and group,

First want to say..so glad you are back Gonzalo..that write-up on Mars was excellent! It is incredible the handle of the English language you have in expressing yourself especially considering it is not your first language. Beyond that, the depth, the detail and your understanding is truly remarkable...thank you!

***

My sincere apologies but I have some pressing commitments that are not allowing me the time to dedicate to this Mars post in the way that is sufficiently required, so I need to bow out of this one.


Peace,
Kristin
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Post by: Upasika on Jul 10, 2013, 05:21 PM
Hi Rad,

I have been a bit snowed under with work comittments, and a death, so haven't had time to even look at anything at the moment. However I am hoping to at least get a start on it this weekend, and probably get it finished next week some time. Very sorry for the delay.

Upasika
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Post by: ari moshe on Jul 11, 2013, 06:53 PM
Darwin's Mars.

Mars is just approaching a full phase sesquiquad with Pluto.
Mars is in first quarter sesquiquad with Mercury
Mars is square the Moon in Cap in the 2nd as well as the plantary nodes in Cap in the 1st and 2nd.
Mars also squares the planetary nodes in the 8th in Cancer.
Mars is ruled by Venus in mutual reception and they are in a gibbous phase with one another.
Mars is trine Darwin's Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd.

The south node of Mars is in Sag in the 1st house conjunct the sn of Uranus. This sn squares Pluto.
The north node of mars is in Aries in the 4th squaring the same planetary nodes as Mars itself, just from the 4th house instead of the 10th house.

Mars corresponds to how the soul will consciously act upon the unconscious desires emanating from the soul. This reflects the path, the ever unfolding leading edge of the soul's ongoing evolutionary journey. It corresponds to an ongoing sense of becoming, of moving towards something and away from something else. The first thing I want to look at in understanding the desire nature of Darwin is the interface between the unconscious Pluto desires and the translation of those desires through the conscious Mars impulse.

Pluto is in Pisces in the 3rd which as we have spoken extensively corresponds to the deeper desire within the soul to understand the interconnectiveness of all things within reality. This has implied for many lifetimes, with Mercury in balsamic conjunct with Pluto, an inner yearning and obsession with connecting all the dots of reality - and thus being faced with the internal limitations and mysteries of what can and cannot be known within human consciousness. This soul has been reconciling with making sense out of all kinds of data, perspectives, points of views and an infinite array of knowledge about the environment. This soul is ultimately learning to accept that it will never achieve complete and total knowledge of all things. To protect itself from this ultimate "insecurity" of not knowing, this soul has oriented to place absolute meaning in various intellectual formulations of reality so as to produce a sense of intellectual security. This Pluto reflects an ongoing evolutionary dynamic over many lifetimes of this soul coming to recognize its relative smallness in the face of totality. This Mars signature on the other hand symbolizes a very tangible and direct drive to actualize the soul's purpose WITHIN the bounds of time and space. Pluto by itself is linked with very strong mutable energy in this chart - and yet for this soul these desires have been directed through an inner pressure to succeed and get along in this world - 10th house Libra.

There are 2 dynamics I can see from this. First the soul was aware of time, which included the awareness of having a role to fulfill and work to achieve that his family would have been dependent on (10th house square to Cap in the 2nd). This required that he become incredibly focused and self determined relative to the work he was doing. The approaching sesquiqudrate in the full phase to Pluto in my comprehension implies that this soul needed to interact with society as a whole, with all kinds of people who share different social values than his own and necessarily learn to integrate his research and travels within that. All this symbolizes for this soul an inner pressure to get on with it - to do the work he is here to do with consideration for the social environment he was living in. In other words that he couldn't just do it however he wanted to do. That's a core aspect of the full phase here, to cooperate with existing social forces.

With the chart Rad posted on Dampier, it's meaningful to note that Dampier's sn is conjunct Darwin's Mars. Dampier's sn is in Libra in the 11th house and squares Pallas Athene in Cap in the 2nd which is also conjunct Darwin's Moon and the planetary south nodes. Dampier's sn also squares Saturn in Cancer and mercury in the 8th which also aligns with the planetary south nodes. In the life of Dampier there were clearly issues around personal authority, fitting in, feeling attacked/limited by external authorities. One of this soul's lessons was one of cooperation and sharing. Given that Dampier's nn is in Aries in the 5th with its ruler Mars in Libra in the 10th the lesson for this soul was to follow his own path while developing social maturity; getting along with and respecting others. He also had a Pluto in the 7th.

I share this to emphasize what seems to me the importance of Darwin's Mars forming that full phase sesquiquad with Pluto: limitations of personal power. With Venus on his IC in a gibbous phase with Mars and ruling Mars, the purpose for this soul was to work on his social maturity and respectability while also following his own path. In other words his own freedom and independence being checked and restricted by the need to fit into society be socially agreeable. One correlation for Mars in Libra is the learning to create balance between extremes, not just innately balanced.

I imagine within these signatures that this soul would feel easily bored and stressed out by bureaucratic, seemingly unnecessary rules and social conventions. And yet it was just those things that were also humbling for this soul. Without being responsible and following these conventions he would not have achieved the success that he did. He would have been limited by the law and other authoritative forces.

It even seems that the guilt within the soul of Darwin has lead him to be extra agreeable, accommodating to others. This itself implying a great repression of anger. This repression and agreeability is the result of having been unchecked and selfish in his behavior in the past.

Relative to all the Capricorn in the 2nd, at the core this soul was incredibly private and internal and was highly focused on survival which included supporting his own family. The ongoing evolutionary lesson for this soul was and has been to develop more lightness by connecting to his own emotional interior. Moon ruling the 8th house, planetary north nodes in the 8th house squaring Mars. The loss of his own mother and the prevailing attitude of mourning that seemed to imbue his entire life was a reflection of this soul coming to terms with death which translates to this soul learning that he can't just be a boy forever. It's interesting that Dampier's Saturn was in the 8th house in Cancer, reflected again with Darwin's Moon in Capricorn in the 2nd, ruling the 8th house.

Mars is forming a first quarter sesquiquad with Mercury - almost gibbous. This correlates to the necessity in this life to focus the free expanse of knowledge and data gathering and to refine, improve upon and develop the data and information that was necessary to be further clarified. This aspect points to the pressure within this soul to generate actions that will allow him to improve and develop greater accuracy and precision in his calculations and data collections. This also means that this soul knew, as per the implied maturation with Mars in the 10th, that there was a need to focus and develop this kind of self accuracy relative to other people's expectations. Since this aspect is completing the first quarter phase, it represents this soul moving away from the Leonian reality of specialness and self importance. It symbolizes the inner pressure within this soul to actually make sure he was doing something helpful to the world. As I understand it, the life of Dampier brought great fame and yet Dampier's accomplishments were not as focused, refined and intentional as in the life of Darwin.

This Mercury squares the AC-DC, which relative to that Mars in Libra in the 10th just re-emphasizes how difficult it would have been for this soul to navigate his own sense of purpose and direction (which had a lot to do with time management) and all the kinds of idea/social conventions/expectations/projections emanating from other people. I imagine a lot of his stomach issues simply were exacerbated by all the emotional repression that he affected upon himself while in social circumstances.

The overall context of how this soul has consciously acted upon his desires is reflected in the sn of Mars in Sag in the 1st conjunct the sn of Uranus and square Pluto and Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd. The correlations to this as I can see it: he has required a great amount of freedom and independence to actualize his desires in this world in according with his own intuition. He has traveled and directed his journey as he saw fit. It's also clear that this soul has worked with groups in the past, with the sn of Mars with the sn of Uranus and Uranus itself being in the 11th house. There was a great degree of inquisitiveness and random action involved in this soul's past. Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd rules this south node: these actions were oriented to collecting data and synthesizing this data to understand the various innate connections that exist within the environment. There was also a natural intuition for this soul that there is something more to discover. The main issue however implied with these signatures is the immaturity and instinctive need to act upon these impulses to go out and learn and find things out. This would have lead to a great degree of recklessness/clumsiness on the one hand, and accidental discoveries on the other.

Relative to the Capricorn squares to that Mars in the 10th house this further emphasizes the stress that this soul has experienced around needing to cooperate with social forces and the limitations that he has experienced as a result of trying to do everything by himself, his own way: Saturn with Neptune in the 12th, Neptune ruling that Jupiter. There may have been lifetimes of having been blocked or limited from his explorations or having been stuck in foreign environments/at sea without direction thus limiting his capacity to act upon his desire to explore and learn.

The north node of Mars is in Aries in the 4th. This is a fascinating placement for this soul. It squares the planetary nodes in Cancer and Cap and yet also reemphasizes the emotional development within this soul. This Mars symbolizes the ongoing evolutionary impulse within this soul to develop emotional freedom, to reconnect to the playful inner child. It correlates to this soul coming to terms with his own identity and living in a way that reflects who he simply is. At some point this soul will begin incarnating into female form. This will be a meaningful evolutionary transition for this soul given the Cancer squares to his 10th house Mars. He will learn to develop emotional independence which will include learning how to nurture and care for himself while also maintaining a social identity that is balanced, not polarized to fit into the social expectations of who he is supposed to be.

In a sense this reflects this soul's ongoing lesson in learning to access his own emotional body even without a mother (both literally and in a more spiritual existential sense - him feeling alone in this world: Moon in cap in the 2nd ruling the 8th house). The unfolding desire of this soul, noting the north node of Pluto in Cancer squaring the nn of Mars in the 4th, is to understand his own identity, to know who he is internally on an emotional level. With Mars itself ruling this north node it symbolizes balanced relationships, accessing a role in this world, which includes gender identity that does not require emotional repression - where he can continue to develop a sense of who he is on an emotional level. Relationship wise, he will begin to explore relationship with others who themselves are not gender polarized.

Another correlation to point out with the strong Capricorn Cancer squares to this Mars is just the overall dynamic of this soul participating and finding his own identity within the context of patriarchal society. He is completing many lifetimes of emotional repression and fitting into social hierarchies that are not natural. Yet he himself has become conditioned by those hierarchies: Cap Moon squaring Mars in the 10th. The key really is for this soul to cultivate a relationship with the emotional body, which is completely other than what he has felt capable or even allowed to do. This again is stressed with the nn of Mars in the 4th and the Cancer north nodes in the 8th with the Moon back in Cap in the 2nd squaring the north node of Mars in the 4th.

As I see it the main correlations here with Mars squaring the 8th house Cancer and 2nd house Capricorn axis including the north nodes of Pluto and Saturn has to do with lifetimes where there was great loss at an emotional level. On one level this correlates to the gradual shift into patriarchal society where emotions became repressed and gender roles became unnaturally set with all kinds of judgments, and sexuality became linked to possessiveness. The kinds of losses that this soul has experiences was incredibly devastating and stunting to his emotional growth and his sense of safety/protection in the world. As a result he developed an identity that allowed him to integrate his experiences so as to stay safe; to not open the locks of his emotional loneliness - Moon in Cap in 2nd squaring Mars , Moon ruing the 8th house. This has created crisis of personal survival versus the deeper inner need to let go and access emotional chaos and true intimacy. In the life of Darwin he had not yet achieved that emotional chaos and vulnerability - his soul simply wasn't ready for that yet (8th house is ruled by the Moon in Cap in the 2nd. He needed to secure his home first). However in the ongoing evolutionary scheme of things, he is learning to let go of the protection and to actually present himself to the world (Libra in the 10th) in a way that does not reflect a polarized repression of his natural emotional nature.

More specifically I see the correlation that there was emotional loss and yet this soul had to keep on going relative to the purpose that he identified in these various lives. Mars squaring the nodes of Saturn and Pluto themselves  both of which are connected strongly to this soul's past of traveling, writing and cataloging (Saturn in Sag, Pluto in Pisces) all relative to the sn of Mars itself in Sag in the 1st. This soul has literally sucked it up and moved on to travel, explore, learn, write etc all the while there being deep grief being tucked away. I imagine, with that Mars in Libra in the 10th there has often been a deep longing for a friend, someone to talk to and listen to. And yet accessing that need consciously enough to manifest such friendship may have been a challenge for this soul.

Some other dynamics to take into account here is the Mars trine to the Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd house, this corresponds to the great amount of creative energy that this soul used by isolating himself and focusing upon the work that was necessary for his purpose. Since the sun is ruled by Uranus on the NN which takes us back to Pluto and its full phase sesquiquad with Mars, we see that these themes of scientific discovery and social application have already been at play in prior lives.

Regarding the sexual desires of this soul with Mars in Libra in the 10th and its south node in sag in the 1st, this soul in the past has definitely needed immense freedom to act upon his own sexual desires. I imagine in prior lives this soul would have enjoyed meeting/courting woman of different cultures and backgrounds and having quick sexual encounters with them. In a sense this symbolized an abuse of his own power/social authority and gender assignment/position. As we have already discussed Darwin's sexual nature was predominately masturbatory - oriented towards quick sensual satisfaction and not a great degree of emotional intimacy involved. However with the Moon in 2nd house squaring Mars in Libra in the 10th with the Moon ruling the 8th, he actually had a deeper need to be touched and nurtured, and yet due to repression and gender identification this soul has translated those deeper emotional needs to sexual impulses that he would direct towards woman. The north node of Mars being in Aries in the 4th house to me correlates to the need for this soul to connect to the primal feminine instinct within, instead of just depending on a social personal that is acceptance and expected of him.

I've been wondering if this soul in the life of Darwin sought out sexual encounters outside of his marriage. My sense is that he did not - and that if he did, he likely did it in the context of some sort of "structure" like a brothel of some sort, and only while he was on travel. He would have also been very attractive to people on a public level. His social persona was agreeable, handsome and respectable and yet he was very inwardly focus, lived with strong boundaries and was not oriented to opening up and let others in very easily. This is why I imagine, if anything, that he would have sought out more socially respectable forms of sexual gratification that was more accepted among men. On the other hand, I can see how such desires (whether or not he acted on them or not) would have created immense guilt for this soul! This guilt is linked to his own loss of his mother and the profound commitment and devotion of his wife to support and take care of him. My sense is that in the life of Darwin, this soul was predominately oriented towards fidelity and restricted his sexual impulses if they were not appropriate or if they were not in relationship with his own wife.

Thank you so much for this ongoing support Rad.
God bless, Ari Moshe
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Post by: Rad on Jul 12, 2013, 09:43 AM
Hi Ari,

First, thanks for taking the time to do this part of our ongoing Planetary Method. Your EA work and analysis of why Darwin chose the Mars placement, in total, was simply brilliant work. Your EA reasoning is exceptionally sound, and your weaving in the link to the prior dynamics of Dampier to Darwin is as accurate as it is instructional for all others who are reading this thread.

This is how EA is meant to be done. And you, with the rest of our little group here who are continuing on with this thread, are providing invaluable instruction into what and how Evolutionary Astrology is, and how is meant to be done.

Bravo !!

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: mirta on Jul 14, 2013, 06:46 PM
Hi Rad and Group

I am sorry, I am not able to continue with our work at this moment.
My energy level being low, much work and sad life circumstances have required my attention in the last months. Now it's beginning to have consequences on my health, not serious yet but I need to take care.
I hope to recover energy and resume the work.
Thank you for this opportunity, teaching and support.
God Bless
Mirta
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Post by: Rad on Jul 15, 2013, 12:12 PM
Quote from: mirta on Jul 14, 2013, 06:46 PM
Hi Rad and Group

I am sorry, I am not able to continue with our work at this moment.
My energy level being low, much work and sad life circumstances have required my attention in the last months. Now it's beginning to have consequences on my health, not serious yet but I need to take care.
I hope to recover energy and resume the work.
Thank you for this opportunity, teaching and support.
God Bless
Mirta


Hi Mirta,

So sad to hear. All of our prayers and support will be coming your way.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Gray on Jul 15, 2013, 10:49 PM
Mirta,

I also will be thinking of you and hope you find some good rest, healing, and regeneration.

Rad-

I also wanted to let you know I am planning to post on Darwin's Mars as soon as possible. I'm not sure if there is anyone else planning to post or not, so feel free to move on if necessary.  I will post as soon as possible.

PEACE
Gray
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Post by: mirta on Jul 16, 2013, 08:12 AM
Thank you Rad and Gray. God Bless you
Mirta
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Post by: Rad on Jul 16, 2013, 08:29 AM
Hi Gray,

Upasika is planning on posting too. So this thread has come down to you, Gonzalo, Ari, and Upasika.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Upasika on Jul 18, 2013, 06:44 AM
Hi Rad & Gray,

Yes I do hope to post. I've made a bit of a start on the weekend and was hoping to do the rest this week but have fallen behind schedule with some unexpected events. I do still plan on finishing but might not get to to it this week at all, and although I'd then really try for early next week there is a possibility it wouldn't be until nearer the end of the the week. So if that's just too long to wait I'll have to accept defeat at the hands of our friend Mercury ... he has not been helpful to me at all this time, I had a lot on as it was and now major delays have cropped up. Just let me know if this is too long to wait.

And Mirta, all the best with such a difficult time, best wishes to you.

blessings Upasika

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Post by: Rad on Jul 18, 2013, 10:01 AM
Hi Upasika,

As long as you, Gray, Ari,and Gonzalo wish to continue on in this thread, which I certainly hope that you all do, we will just keep going no matter how much time it takes for any one of you to complete whatever stage, next step, we are at.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Upasika on Jul 18, 2013, 05:22 PM
Hi Rad,

Thank you for understanding the time difficulties. And yes, I feel to continue the thread right through to the end.

Upasika
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Post by: Upasika on Jul 29, 2013, 07:20 AM
Hi Rad,

Finally things slowed down enough for me to get something done .. thanks for your patience.

         

                            Why Charles Darwin's Mars is in Libra 10th


What is it that is central to all our lives? For the great majority it is the sense of being ourselves.

It is from this sense of being a something or somebody (that has awareness of it's environment) that we perceive everything outside us via our physical senses "¦ and it is from this sense of self that we then try and make mental and emotional sense of all we have perceived in our environment. Central to this process is the sense of "ourself" - it is from this and to this that everything is referred.

This core sense of ourself (which we generally call me/myself/I) is an inner sense which is infused into our subconscious by the Moon (inner child/maternal urge/emotions), the 4th house and planets in it (our family environment & upbringing, needs for emotional nurturing), and wherever Cancer is in the chart - house cusp/planets in Cancer (our psychological attunement to/needs for/understanding of and appreciation of emotional bonding and emotional independence). It is through these family orientated type of emotions and experience that we express our Soul "˜s need for physical and emotional preservation, for safety - especially when we are relating to family members, and generally also to other people. All these basic familial emotional needs, identifications and attachments or the lack of them, together create our core self-image (our subconscious sense of what and who we are), and when this self-image is stable we feel inwardly safe and secure.

This sense of self is, however, directed by the conscious and integrative lifeforce wihin us (the Sun), according to our creative purpose - which is itself based on our Soul's (largely unconscious) intentions "¦ shown by Pluto & the Nodes. This conscious sense of self is also anchored into the physical body through our subconscious instincts, which express spontaneously at the Ascendant, and only slightly less spontaneously through the 1st house (both "naturally" ruled by Mars, as the 1st is the "Aries" house).

These instincts operate on several levels. Firstly autonomously, without actual conscious awareness - for example driving on the highway, and a car coming towards us suddenly swerves into our path. Immediately we react by braking and /or swerving out of the way. No thinking is involved, just spontaneous reflexive action. It's only after we have acted that we become aware of what we have done - it was automatic. Instincts operating at this level are based on physical survival (1st house in conjunction with the 2nd). The body is programmed by nature to want to survive, and because for most much of the sense of self is anchored in the physical body (in other words being identified with it, feeling we are our physical body) "¦ this then is also the most fundamental desire, preservation of the physical body.

Close to this level, we also feel urges to act which aren't spontaneous as such - although we still only have a subconscious awareness of these urges. And when we do act on them, the action is based on an impulse which we've made a snap decision to follow. Examples are when driving in town, suddenly pulling over to the side of the street to check out a particular shop we saw out of the corner of our eye; or briefly starting or ending a conversation; without thought just adding an extra sprinkling of spice beyond what the recipe calls for when cooking; or jumping out of a toasty warm bed early in the morning in the middle of winter because you have to catch a plane and time is rapidly running out, etc. In all these situations we are living life at a semi-automatic level, just reacting to simple direct stimuli.

However we often become much more conscious of some urges. The process is similar, in that these other urges arise by themselves from our unconscious manifesting initially on an instinctive level. But they are not related to immediate physical survival, nor to passing impulses, and so there isn't an immediate need to express or fulfil these urges. Thus we generally harbour these urges within us, taking anything from a brief to large amount of time to consider them, and through this process they become recognisable as desires. In this way we become familiar with these desires and develop more awareness of what each desire is for or about, and why.

These desires are related to our sense of self in a much more conscious way, usually as separating desires for "this" or "that" - either desires regarding our personal inner state (eg. for happiness, for more meaning in one's life), desires for a different or better body, desires for possessions, family or relationship desires, desires for a certain structure in our world, desires for more or less group involvement, desires for a different world etc, etc.

These desires are programmed by the Soul (Pluto) to be fulfilled in the current life, and thus like all separating desires manifest initially at an instinctive level (Mars). But being related to our sense of self, our sense of being an individual, these desires are pushed up into our awareness where we progressively register them more consciously (via the Moon, and also Sun). Thus we can then dwell on these desires, contemplate them, and go over in our minds what these desires actually are and involve. These desires are specific to each person, and may follow a central theme, or alternatively be of a widely varying nature, or somewhere in between. This can give rise to many conflicting courses of possible action, and thus we end up having to choose between these courses of action, prioritising them, which means choosing between desires. Regardless of whether we act instinctively or as the result of a deliberate choice, or sometimes in both ways combined, ultimately these choices and actions define our life.  

The sense of ourselves is based on emotional security (Cancer, and unconsciously Pluto), and it is because of this need for that security that we resist changes to that sense of self. Yet the desires manifesting via Mars need to be lived, and it is these desires that energise our every moment, and give us the feeling that what and who we are, our sense of self, is becoming who and what we desire to be. If it's some item (thing) we want, our current self-image is of a person who doesn't have this item but who wants it. And once we have got it, subtly our self-image changes as we no longer have this desire "¦ temporarily we have some peace as Mars energy is not activating our present moment with the desire for this item. Sooner or later however, another desire will filter up through Mars to energise our present, and the temporary feeling of peace will be replaced by the tension of wanting again. And again subtly our self-image will change as we have to accommodate a new desire (and thus a new tension) as part of our feeling of who we are.

It is our self-image (Moon/4th/Cancer) that makes us want to preserve the past (represented by the South Nodes of all the planets - except the Sun which doesn't have Nodes), and surfacing desires (Mars/1st/Aries) that fuel our need for a future (represented by all the North Nodes of all the planets), and the present moment contains the resulting tension between these two primary forces within us (the known and the unknown).

So, until all separating desires are fulfilled and finished with, and the desire to return to the Source becomes the single focus, we will always be moving from one self-image to another, always becoming who we always had the potential to be. And this whole process is catalysed by Mars, as desires emanating from our Soul move through our instincts into our consciousness. In this way, shedding one desire after another, our Soul is in a continual state of becoming, of growth, of coming closer to it's return home, to the Source.

Mars is the energy that gets us up in the morning, that goes to work, that cooks our meals, that tidies and cleans our home, that plays and dances, and has sex. It is the energy through which we assert ourselves, of natural fight or flight, or of sustained aggression (manmade war). However it is repressed Mars that causes many illnesses, and many difficulties in relationships. Mars is the energy for taking action in our lives, and so is the energy we have for acting out all our desires. Due to all this, the condition of Mars and it's Nodes in the chart is always going to be highly significant in terms of the individual's options, choices and pathway in the current lifetime.

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                      This all becomes very interesting when we look at Mars in the chart of Charles Darwin.

We know the Soul's past, resulting in the huge momentum that caused it to be born with the Mercury, Ceres, Pluto, Juno and Jupiter stellium in Pisces in the 3rd house. Also with the Moon's SN in Taurus 5th and it's ruler in Aries 3rd, and the Sun and Moon in the 2nd house in Aquarius and Capricorn respectively. We also know that with Uranus conjunct the Moon's NN and Chiron square the Moon's nodal axis that both lunar Nodes and the PPP, as well as Pluto, have been activated prior to this life, not just Pluto and the Moon's SN, creating skipped steps. And that to resolve these skipped steps in this life the Soul must anchor it's operations at the Scorpio 11th house NN point as well as wholeheartedly embracing the Virgo 9th house PPP experience.

We can start our evaluation of Mars by looking at it's SN, it's past. This is in Sag in the 1st house, which on its own is no surprise, but it's also in a new conjunction with the SN of Uranus. Together these reflect the efforts the Soul has made in the past to follow its own desires without restriction, those desires being to understand reality in metaphysical or cosmological terms (SN Mars), plus the desires of the Soul to break away from the prevailing ideas, thinking and understandings of the societies in which it has lived in over the past, to find itself through finding its own understanding of life (SN Uranus). As we know the Soul has had success in doing both these things which has resulted in their ruler (Jupiter) being in a new conjunction to Pluto in Pisces 3rd in the current life - showing a new and deep understanding (Jupiter/Pluto) of the wholeness (Pisces) within which diversity (3rd house) is contained. And because their ruler Jupiter (and Pluto) is in a waxing square (crisis in action) to SNs of Mars and Uranus we can see that in this life Darwin will be prepared to "make a stand" with his views and beliefs, even if it feels pioneering and dangerous to do so. The need to do this will be felt deep in his bones, and will also add pressure on him to fully embrace the 9th house PPP.

Just as there was no other place that Mercury could be in this life (balsamic conjunction to Pluto) due to choices made in past lives, there is no other place that Mars could be in this lifetime other than in Libra in the 10th house, also due to choices made in the past. This need in the Soul (stemming from the SNs Mars/Uranus condition) to bring a long effort to fruition would have created a sense of urgency in him, and is one contributor to the inevitability of Mars being in the 10th house. In terms of where Darwin was going to direct his energies on a daily basis in this life, doing so in anything other than the 10th house would have been a distraction to his Soul intentions, made achieving his purpose and goals more difficult than it needed to be, and basically been a waste of his human time.

That it was a logical progression for Mars to be in the 10th in this life is also shown with SN Mars being in a disseminating sesquiquadrate to the SN of the Moon, showing that the old rebellion against society via self-centred activity (1st house) had been replaced more recently by an immersion into society in order to learn it's ways (sesquiquadrate). This would still have been on the Soul's terms with the Moon's SN being in the 5th house, but certainly indicates a yielding (sesquiquadrate) to the necessity of adapting to society's needs (NN in 11th). Additionally we know that many factors show Darwin had a special destiny to fufill in this life, and Mars in the 10th in LQ septile to the SN of Uranus is another factor reflecting that this was a life where individuality discovered deep in the Soul's past was destined to fruit in this lifetime.

Mars is also in a disseminating square to the SNs of Vesta and Mercury in Capricorn 2nd, reflecting that in past lives already a crisis has been building around the need to fruit many lives of focussed mental work, and that the key to doing this will lie in utilising all that the Soul has learnt in past lives about the way society tends to think. And looking at Mars in LQ square to the SNs of Venus, Saturn, Pluto and Jupiter shows that not only had this crisis been building in past lives, but that in these same past lives the Soul had already been dealing with crisis in other areas of it's lives - in terms of learning how to allow its need for relationships that reflected its individuality (LQ square) and also being responsible in those relationships (SNs: Venus New conjunction Saturn); in terms of surviving (2nd) in society (Capricorn) while having an individualised set of beliefs (SNs Jupiter & Pluto BS conjunction "¦), that were completely foreign or different ("¦ruled by Saturn BS conjunction to Neptune, both in Sag in the 12th) both to mainstream society and even most individualised Souls in it. This has been a very difficult challenge for Darwin in the past, and is another reason why actions from the past have left the Soul no possibility to have Mars anywhere other than in the 10th house in this life - so that his desires could be given the full light of day, peak expresion.

The deeply intense past efforts this Soul has made in becoming highly individualised in mental perception and understanding (Sth Nodes: of Jupiter BS Pluto New Mercury all in Capricorn), and developing such strong individualised values (SN Ven New conj SN Sat in 2nd) all the while trying to survive in the world, has forced the Soul in this life to direct all its intellectual pursuits into achieving social culmination. This is necessary in order to avert unhealthy compression and possibly damage at the Soul level. Even long ago the Soul has needed to be withdrawn and to possibly "hide it's light" in order to survive in society (SN Sat in Cap 2nd) possibly adding further detrimental effects to a long-standing wound the Soul has had regarding it's individuality (SN Sat square to SN Chiron in Aries 4th). Now in the current life, a strong need would have existed to not have to do this so much anymore, to be able to be as authentic as possible. And thus in this life, having Mars in the 10th in disseminating or LQ squares to all these 2nd house SNs in Capricorn "¦ shows the Soul's clear intention in this life to channel as much energy as possible, into establishing as fully as possible, its own authority within society (based on the Soul's past values - 2nd house SNs).

This Soul has a lot of inner content to be released (stellium of 9 energies starting at the Sun and ending in Vesta) as it cannot contain it all anymore. Unless the Soul can release it's gifts and talents into society in this life they may easily be wasted for good, as in the coming lives the Soul will need to move on to new things. This is the Soul urgency into which Darwin was born. Now was the time (PPP in 9th, Mars in 10th, both culminating) to fruit so much (so many SNs in the 2nd house of substance), and it's another reason why Darwin was born with his Moon conjunct all these SNs "¦ it's an unresolved point of tension needing constructive attention.

Also with the Moon in the 2nd being in a CR square to Mars in the 10th - Darwin must "own" his (Sun in Aquarius) ideas, these are his possessions (Sun in 2nd) and use them to establish his authority (Mars in 10th trine that Sun) on the subject so dear to his heart - the whole realm of nature and it's biology (Mercury/Pluto/Jupiter in Pisces, ruler Saturn conj Neptune in Sag 12th). There have been difficulties in this area previously. The ruler of the Sun is Uranus, which is in a New conjunction to the Moon's NN in Scorpio in the 11th house. In the past the extremely strong attempts to individuate (Uranus in the 11th) have indeed produced strong results - the Sun in this life wouldn't be in Aquarius otherwise. However much of the material in these results has had to be either suppressed or somehow hidden from society (ruler of Uranus/Moon NN is Pluto, which is squaring Saturn in the 12th). But with both the Sun and Moon in the 2nd house in this lifetime, instead of allowing fear of detrimental consequences for speaking up to make him pull back, he would have felt a solid confidence in the facts in his possession and had a more grounded and practical approach to organising and presenting them.

We have already discussed that in recent lives Mars has been progressively socialised, and now being in Libra 10th is well equipped to develop professional relationships (Mars in a FULL quincunx to Jupiter in the 3rd house stellium), and this would have created an open channel into the world for his learning output. Mars is also Full sesquiquadrate (Ceres BS conj Pluto in the 3rd), and shows the immense energy Darwin would have had to create the right channels for his work in the world, by learning and knowing who to be connected to (Mars in Libra) to increase his chances of succeeding (10th).

Given the Soul's entire past, including the severe Chiron wounding that had deposited in the 2nd, this life for Darwin may have been a case of "pursuing genius or courting madness" "¦ and the choice was his. With Mars placed in the 10th he obviously chose to do his best, to have the public light shining on his actions, and all that comes with that - access to important people, public support, responsibilities, and if successful acknowledgement, prestige and rewards etc. This was a choice to pursue genius, and this choice had a huge impact on the Soul's underlying karma. This choice with it's associated results transformed the world's understanding of living things. It also culminated so much within Darwin thus effecting the release of all the pent up content, as well as the return of all the energy that had been invested in this path for many lives beforehand. Creating this life with Mars in the 10th was a wise and very effective decision made by this Soul.

The Soul is also highly motivated to create a family of it's own that would be based on its own ideas of what that family needed to be like, and to be about - Mars FQ square (NN Sat New conj NN Pluto) in Cancer in late 7th/early 8th. This family would ideally be geared towards his urgent needs for professional development (ruler of NN Sat New NN Pluto is the Moon in Cap 2nd which is in also Full opposition to these NNs) in order to help him provide for both them (Moon in 2nd). Which takes us to his relationship and sexual needs...


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I haven't had time to finish this off yet Rad, But unfortunately I now have to get back to doing some things I cannot avoid. So I'll post what I've done now, and hope to do and post the remainder on the sex and relating etc as soon as I can.

I'll be busy with a move for a few days now, and then on the road for a few more days after that, so it would be about a week before I could do that. If you all need to move on before then I'll leave this here where it's at, and keep up with the group & just focus on any new assignment.

blessings Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Jul 29, 2013, 09:35 AM
Hi Upasika,

First, thanks for taking the time to post what you have developed thus far relative to why Darwin chose to have his Mars in Libra in the 10th. Your EA analysis thus far is spot on and as brilliant as ever, the reasoning employed being of course very, very accurate.

Second, yes, when you find a chunk of time to finish up with what you started please post at that time.

Just brilliant EA work Upasika. This is how EA is meant to be done.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Gray on Jul 29, 2013, 11:30 PM
Hi Rad and Group,

I will not be able to finish a post on this tonight, but I should be able to get at least something posted tomorrow, if you can wait that long.

Thank you,
Gray
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Jul 30, 2013, 09:34 AM
Hi Gray,

It sure can ........

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Gray on Jul 30, 2013, 08:17 PM
Hello again Rad and group,

In Evolutionary Astrology, the significance of Mars as being a lower octave of Pluto is profound, as Mars is therefore considered to be the leading edge of the Soul's evolutionary development. As Rad described, the Mars archetype in EA correlates to a need for an impulsive freedom to act upon Soul desires without a lot of forethought, in order to gain knowledge of how others react to this action initiated from desire.  More specifically, Mars can also correlate to the sexual desires of the Soul on its evolutionary journey, and in combination with Venus and Pluto, further connects to how one projects sexual needs and expectations onto others, and how others then project their own sexual needs and expectations back to the individual.  As we have discussed, Darwin has a Soul history of searching for and researching ultimate meaning and knowledge (Pisces Pluto in 3rd House balsamic conjunct Mercury and Ceres) with a sense of an entitled special destiny in pursuit of this knowledge (South Node of the Moon in Taurus in 5th; ruled by Aries Venus conjunct Aries Vesta conjunct IC; Aquarius Chiron in 2nd square the lunar nodes) and with a soul purpose to throw off and liberate consensus belief from conditioned thoughts and beliefs associated with religious dogma and other sources of societal conditioning that are not in alignment with the actual truth of reality (Aquarius Sun in 2nd House in trine to Libra Mars; Capricorn Moon in 2nd in square to Libra Mars; Sagitarius Saturn-Neptune in 12th in square to Pisces Pluto in 3rd;  Pisces Jupiter in third).

Darwin's Libra Mars in his 10th House is close to a disseminating sesquiquadrate to his Pisces Pluto, but still in the full phase.  Isolating the Libra and 10th House aspects of his Mars, part of his Soul's intention to have this Mars placement was to have the ability to establish a wide variety of relationships that would help him further develop and then disseminate his intellectual theories and knowledge, as well as having the authority to take on a major public role in authorship and expression of these ideas, to such a high level that his very identity would become associated eternally with his Pisces third house mental explorations and discoveries.  In addition, his Mars in Libra would initiate relationships with a wide variety of people possessing a wide variety of beliefs and values, meaning he would receive a lot of feedback relative to his development of meaning associated with his Pisces Pluto through the reaction he would receive from his relationships to his thoughts, conversations, and behavior.  Darwin's Libra Mars being in his 10th House also means it is a highly conditioned Mars, and so part of his intention through creating his Libra relationships would be to help him break out of this past conditioning, through making him more aware of his deep-rooted emotional issues connected with his past societal conditioning (Libra Mars square Capricorn Moon in 2nd that is conjunct a stellium of South Nodes of plantets).  A further intention of him having a Libra Mars in the 10th would therefore be the fact that it is so conditioned, and so at the same time he would have a natural instinct for the rules and regulations of consensus reality, and possess the ability to move within the hierarchical structures of growing up inside the World Empire of the United Kingdom in the 19th Century.  This connects to the full sesquiquadrate aspect between his Libra Mars (10th) initiation of Pisces Pluto (3rd) desires through the necessity of Darwin understanding the rules, laws, and traditions of the dominant culture of his birth so that he would be able to carry out his sense of a special destiny to transform consensus beliefs operating within this same culture.

In connection to the evolutionary journey of his Soul, Darwin's major "skipped step" is his Aquarius Chiron in his 2nd House squaring his nodes.  This connects to the brilliant and unorthodox mind of this Soul in past incarnations who could develop liberating and radical thought throwing off limitations of consensus thought and reality.  In line with a Chiron in Aquarius, however, this brilliant mental ability could have led him to become ungrounded and a Soul issue of being able to survive and prosper on a material level through this mental ability (2nd House skipped step) or perhaps more accurately that the value system his radical intellectual ability would have been rooted in, would not have been supported in a material fashion by the powers-that-be, the status quo in control of material resources in the society his Soul incarnated into.  In his Soul's previous incarnation as William Dampier, the fact he was essentially a free-ranging pirate who was at the same time developing intellectual theories and research relevant to the natural environment he was navigating through in his journeys, goes along with this evolutionary Soul wound in the sense that by existing in an isolated context on the high seas, his Soul would have resisted the confines of consensus reality found in a more grounded community-oriented existence.  

However, in the incarnation of Charles Darwin, his Soul now has the intention to take this radical mental ability and integrate it into not only a status quo societal context of the dominant culture (the United Kingdom of the 19th Century) but also through a personal establishment of a family dynamic to live from (as we have discussed, symbolized in part by the ruler of his South Node, a Venus Aries, being at the end of his 3rd house and on the edge of his 4th House cusp). In contrast to his past life identity of Dampier, who was very willful and assertive in actualizing his own evolutionary intentions, in the lifetime as Darwin this Soul intended to modify and align it's strong sense of purpose with the structures of the social environment (Mars in 10th) in part through the formation of important relationships to facilitate this integration (Mars in Libra).  In addition, Darwin's Libra Mars in the 10th signified that he would have the intention to form relationships with a diverse group of people through not only his world travels as he did in his incarnation as Dampier, but also through his daily life and interactions as part of society.  As a result he would be able to gain a better sense of how to fit his brilliant mental theories into a form that could be understood by a wide variety of people in society through the reactions he would receive through his relationships.  If particular thoughts of his would generate a discordant response, for example, he would have the opportunity to reformulate how to communicate the idea in a manner that may generate a response indicating a greater level of comprehension in the future. Or if someone had an argument with something he said, he would have the opportunity to re-conceptualize and possibly expand his original thought to take in a broader perspective.

Chiron being a skipped step brings in some interesting aspects of the Chiron archetype.  In myth, Chiron is from a region of Greece associated more with the indigenous people of the region, and as centaurs and Sagitarius can be associated with direct experience and knowledge of Natural Law, so can Chiron in a profound manner.  Chiron was an intellectual giant in the sense of an intellect deeply rooted in Nature and Source, as opposed to a disconnected and overly rational intellect that Charles Darwin would have been associated with in the England of the 19th Century.  Chiron knew the connection between the patterns in the stars above and the plants growing underneath his feet that held medicinal properties, and the divine origins and interconnection of all aspects of the material realm.  The Soul of Darwin holds this ulitmate knowledge of ultimate meaning somewhere deep inside (Pisces Pluto in balsamic conjunction to Pisces Ceres and Mercury), but through lifetimes of becoming involved with organized religion and repercussions of organized religious dogma (Sagitarius Saturn and Neptune in 12th in last quarter square to Pisces Pluto) the Soul of Darwin had at some point become disconnected from this more wholistic perspective on Nature and Source that is associated with Chiron.  In the previous incarnation of William Dampier, his Soul took to the high seas in a manner that led him into contact with many aspects of Nature that his Soul was able to analyze with the rational intellectual perspective it had developed.  In the lifetime of Darwin, he had the evolutionary opportunity to work to further resolve the split between the actual truth of ultimate meaning versus the consensus-held beliefs about ultimate meaning that were not in alignment with ultimate meaning and so would result in Souls like Darwin's having experienced profound disillusionment in their past and present incarnations.  In order to liberate consensus beliefs from religious dogma, Darwin in his incarnation had a focus that was more rooted in expression through a scientific method than a spiritual method.  His powerful third house (Pisces Pluto, Mercury, Ceres, and Jupiter plus his Aries Venus that rules his South Node of the Moon) was therefore focused upon academic and scientific research and argument in order to liberate consensus belief from oppressive aspects of religious dogma. His 10th House Libra Mars acted from a heavily conditioned background, therefore, in part to help liberate himself in the end from this same conditioning.

Thus, although a Libra Mars in 10th acting from a Pisces Pluto in 3rd and in trine to an Aquarius Sun in the 2nd would have the ultimate intention of breaking free from conditioning, at the same time his every impulse in the moment would have felt the weight of past conditioning, similar to his Capricorn Moon in the 2nd that is in a crescent square to his Libra Mars.  His sexual nature as a result would also be deeply conditioned, as well as all other aspects of his expression of Soul desire.  However, through enacting this Soul desire into the world and initiating reactions from others, the crescent square to his Capricorn Moon would have ultimately helped him in the objectification and liberation brought on an evolutionary level from the trine between his Aquarius Sun in the 2nd back to this same Libra Mars.  Furthermore, the ancient conditioning that is so deep it had become completely unconscious (to such an extent as manifesting as various illnesses that Darwin constantly sufferred from) can be seen in that his Libra Mars is in a tight square to the South Nodes of his Saturn, Venus, Vesta, and Mercury, and that his Capricorn Moon is also conjunct the South Nodes of his Jupiter and Pluto.  His Capricorn Moon and South Nodes of Jupiter, Pluto, Saturn, Venus, Vesta, and Mercury are all ruled in his natal chart by his Sagitarius Saturn conjunct Neptune in his 12th that is square to his Pisces Pluto.  Therefore, the very same religious and cultural dogma his Soul feels the intellectual destiny to overturn is the very same dogma that has heavily conditioned and oppressed his Soul in past incarnations.  Another sign of this being a "crisis in consciousness" for this Soul on an evolutionary level is that the North Nodes of his Saturn and Pluto are also in a square to his Libra Mars from the sign of Cancer on the cusp of this 7th and 8th Houses, nodes that are also ruled by his Capricorn Moon that is in square to his Mars.

As a result, Darwin's Libra Mars in his 10th House was an important aspect of this evolutionary intent to help objectify and throw off some of the conditioned beliefs involved in widespread conditioning of his time (Libra Mars in trine to Aquarius Sun in 2nd) as well as the history of thought, belief, and philosophy that led to the current reality of consensus belief he found himself inside of in the 19th Century in England.  His Libra Mars is an important initiator with regards to the evolutionary journey of his Soul because it is ruled by his Aries Venus that is also the ruler of the South Node of his Moon in Taurus in his 5th House.  However, because again his Mars is in square to his Capricorn Moon and all those South Nodes (Pluto, Jupiter, Saturn, Venus, Vesta, Mercury) the re-adjustment of his Soul's desires to the rules and regulations of society (Mars in full sesquiquadrate to Pluto) could be especially humiliating and wounding to this Soul's deep intrinsic nature and instincts.  And yet, because his Soul carries such a burning sense of special destiny (Aries Venus conjunct Vesta conjunct IC) he would have pushed through nonetheless.  So, for example, although it took him some time to figure out how to form the specific relationships that would get him to where he wanted to ultimately go on a Soul level, in the end he did so. As I and others have written previously, this can be shown in how at first he formed relationships with people that would set him up in more of a religious role, but ultimately through financial resources of his biological father as well as the family he married into, and various other associations he formed, he was able to set himself up financially so that he could have the personal freedom to focus on his scientific research and writing.  The Aries Venus at the end of the third, in connection with the Pisces Pluto in the third, also connect to the idea that he would have formed relationships primarily with the purpose to help further his own intellectual work. I'm sure he would have gained some personal and emotional meaning from his relationships, but his attraction often would have been based upon more of a mental aspect and how the person would assist him in some way, either through agreement or debate, with his special sense of destiny in scientific theory.

Although Darwin's 10th house placement of Mars that also square his 2nd House Capricorn Moon indicates heavy conditioning and some difficult emotions surrounding how he initiated his special sense of Soul destiny, the disseminating trine between his Libra Mars and his Aquarius Sun in his 2nd House shows that he had the ability to take his understanding of how society operates and draw upon it in order to actualize his groundbreaking and radical Aquarian theories into the mainstream of academia and consensus reality without the same extreme level of persecution that his Soul would have experienced in past incarnations for expressing more radical viewpoints (Aquarius Chiron square nodes, with Scorpio Uranus conjunct the North Node of the Moon in the 11th).  He could also draw upon his past evolutionary development toward the 11th house concept of being one of many "stars" instead of his entitled sense of needing to be the star in control (5th House South Node ruled by Aries Venus), through forming alliances with other individuals doing groundbreaking work such as Alfred Wallace, instead of entering into open competition with them in a manner that would prevent them from receiving validation for their own work.  In the past, he could have been in more open conflict with people he would have viewed more as competitor's on his sense of special destiny instead of as potential collaborators (Scorpio Uranus conjunct North Node square Aquarius Chiron in 2nd).  Bringing in the archetype of Chiron again as his skipped step, it is interesting that in myth Chiron was a recluse who lived in a cave in part because of being an outcast not accepted by his parents, and that he transformed this status by fostering and nurturing many youth who had been abandoned by parents into individuals who could step into heroic status as adults.  Similarly, I feel that Darwin had past lives in which he identified with being a reclusive outcast, somewhat like Dampier for example, but that in his lifetime as Darwin he would have been operating at the higher evolutionary level of his Libra Mars in the 10th by supporting the work of other groundbreaking theorists like Wallace and helping to bring them into more prominence than they would have on their own.  And yet, there were still shades left of Darwin's past soul history of obsessional sense of destiny revealed at times like when he decided to finally rush to publish his work upon realizing that there were other people out there like Wallace working on similar ideas and theories.  Yet by deciding to work with other scientists who were developing theories that were similar in some aspects and different in other aspects to his own ideas, he was able in the end to expand his own vision and understanding than if he had dismissed the idea of collaborating with others from the outset.  With his Libra Mars ruled by his Aries Venus, however, in the end he was still more about working on his own concerning h is own ideas.

The archetypal theme of Darwin having a soul history connected in some way to the archetype of Chiron, centaurs, and Natural Law can also be seen in the South Node of his Mars being in Sagitarius (22'2'') conjunct the South Node of Uranus (15'45'') in his 1st House.  Since the South Node of his Mars and Uranus in Sagitarius is in square to his Pisces Jupiter in his third house, I feel the Soul history of his Mars is similar to the signature represented by his Sagitarius Saturn and Neptune being in square to his Pisces Pluto.  Darwin has a soul history of developing a strong belief system that could become dogmatic at times, or conditioned by the dogma of his culture, that in turn would lead him to experiencing extreme disillusionment upon discovering that the actual truth of his reality did not align with those beliefs, as well as the ultimate meaning of reality that his conditioned beliefs had led him to feel he had gained a sense of.  As a result, in his incarnation as Darwin, his natal Mars being in Libra in the 10th was drawn from his Pisces Pluto third house purpose of developing a scientific method of process that he could feel more secure regarding because of the fact that it was supposed to lead toward greater objectivity through following the guidelines of the scientific method.

In contrast, the North Node of his Mars is in Aries in his 4th House conjunct his IC and his Aries Venus and Vesta.  This again connects to the idea of Darwin having an evolutionary purpose to create a family in this lifetime, an evolution from past life identities like as Dampier in which his Soul avoided a family dynamic.  In addition, the North Node of Mars being connected to his Aries Venus and Vesta, a Venus that also rules his South Node of the Moon, further intensifies the burning sense of special destiny he would feel in acting upon his Pisces Pluto (3rd house) soul desires connected to developing scientific theories in greater alignment with ultimate understanding than currently existed.  Again, the role of conditioning is very important here, as his North Node of Mars is also in square to his Capricorn Moon and his stellium of South Nodes of planets, particularly his South Nodes of Jupiter and Pluto.  This again brings up the example of how he was sick so often, a sign of how much his being was triggered on a deep unconscious level by stressful aspects of pursuing his evolutionary purpose in science.

Sexually, as Rad has already described, his Aries Venus as the ruler of his Libra Mars would lend itself to him having a sexuality that was very much about him meeting his own needs, including masturbation as a primary outlet.  This outlet would also connect with the heavily conditioned nature of his Mars, and how he probably had sexual desires that would not be acceptable to his "conditioned self," and so he would have a more "secret self" possessing sexual desires he could express through masturbation and an active sexual fantasy life.  With his strong planetary energy in his second house as well as south nodes of planets there, he also would have a strong association with sex as being about procreation and producing children.  

The fact that he ended up marrying and having children with his cousin is another re-live aspect of his Mars, as having a Mars in the 10th with a north node of Mars in 4th, plus Mars ruler Aries Venus at the end of the third conjunct the 4th House, all together could indicate a soul history of having been romantically involved with brothers, sisters, cousins, basically romantic partners from the same biological family background.  Since Darwin also has a Scorpio Uranus conjunct his North Node of the Moon, this could also be part of his evolutionary soul history with taboo aspects of society and conditioning.  In his life as Darwin, at one point he questioned his decision to marry his cousin from the fearful perspective that it could have impacted the immune system of his children in a negative manner.  In any case, since his Mars is in square to his Capricorn Moon and south nodes of planets, there would have been a lot of conditioning he would have had to work through in order to access his sexuality, and by impulsively acting upon his sexual desire he would have triggered the conditioning dynamics of his soul history relevant to his incarnation as Darwin.

With regards to the sexual needs and magnetism of Darwin, how he would project his sexuality and how it would be projected back to him, I feel it would also connect to the aspects we have covered connected to his Aries Venus in which he would often form relationships for mental or intellectual reasons, and perhaps at times there was at least some sort of unconscious sexual undertone to some of these relationships.  He was passionate about his mental pursuits and so he would have formed relationships with people who would support the development of his mental work, and he would have projected this need on others.  With the Aquarius Sun trine to his Libra Mars, it would suggest an intention with his sexual dynamics with others would have been to help liberate him from past conditioning around sexuality, however, it also unclear to me from historical records just how much liberation around sexuality Darwin actually would have experienced.  It seems he may have been so wounded in past lifetimes that in his incarnation as Darwin he was very frigid with respect to his past conditioning.  With a Libra Mars in the 10th that is square to his Capricorn Moon in the 2nd, perhaps the main emotional and sexual projection Darwin made came from a very repressed place, and so he may have in turn magnetized a repressive emotional and sexual projection from others toward him.  As a result there could have been a lot of unconscious tension and stress, even pent up anger and frustration at times, occurring in his relationships due mostly to a repressed sexual and emotional aspect.  Since he had a Mars square Moon aspect, Darwin himself could have become very angry at times in relationship with others, and also could have in turn been on the receiving end of a lot of anger. 

I feel there is much more that could be found related to Darwin's sexuality in connection with his Libra Mars than I am covering here, but this is all I have for now.

with gratitude,
Gray
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Jul 31, 2013, 10:25 AM
Hi Gray,

First, thanks for taking the time to do this evolutionary analysis of why Darwin chose to have his Mars in Libra as well as it's interrelations with his South and North Nodes of his Mars.

Your EA analysis is simply brilliant, and to me, breathtaking. It demonstrates a depth and comprehensiveness that is the very essence of what Evolutionary Astrology is, and can be. I particularly enjoyed your deft interweaving the the archetype of Chiron within the overall analysis of Darwin's natal Mars in Libra in his 10th, with his S.Node of Mars being in Sagittarius conjunct the S.Node of Uranus in the 1st, and his N.Node of Mars in Aries in the 4th. And then deftly demonstrating the most recent past life for the Soul of Darwin, Dampier, to the current life of that Soul as Darwin in terms of how that life as Dampier set up the evolutionary progression and needs in the life as Darwin via the overall Mars signatures. Thus, the understanding of why the natal placement of Darwin's Mars in Libra was in fact the S.Node of Dampier's Moon, as well as his own natal Mars. This was just brilliant.

The evolutionary need and desire for a marriage relationship that Dampier did not have did manifest in Darwin as you rightly pointed out. And this is not only symbolized with the N.Node of Mars for Darwin being in his 4th, but also, that same N.Node manifests in Dampier's own 4th House.

Your analysis too of his sexual nature, and desires, was also quite accurate to the extent that you developed it. I have felt a resistance by all of those participating, those that are left, from a full development of this dimension of the Soul of Darwin. I think I will, within the next few days, present to our little group a more full analysis of this so that we can all learn from it: the full development of it. So if you, those that are left, would like me to do that please let me know.

Simply brilliant EA work Gray. All of your EA reasoning was extremely sound. This is how EA is meant to be done. You, as well as the others, are really helping all those who come to read this thread learn this fact.

Bravo !!

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Jul 31, 2013, 10:37 AM
Hi Rad, I would absolutely love that. Thank you.
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Kristin on Jul 31, 2013, 11:02 AM
Hi Rad,
Even though I did not contribute on the recent post on Mars, I have been following this stage of the planetary method and would also love to know what has been left out of Darwin's Mars placement, sexually speaking.
Thank you!
Kristin
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Gray on Jul 31, 2013, 12:16 PM
Thank you so much Rad,

I'm glad you appreciated my integration of Chiron- in my more personal astrology work I have been looking more deeply into the Chiron archetype and so it is fortuitous for me that this is also the skipped step of Darwin. It makes me happy that resonated for you.

I would very much like to hear your thoughts on how sexuality through EA can be seen in the chart of Darwin.  I do not feel like I have a strong grasp on sexuality through EA, and often go off writing I have seen in past posts on threads.  The main sense I got purely on my own from Darwin's chart would be the repressed and conditioned aspect of his sexuality and how that could play out in projection back and forth.

with gratitude and love,
Gray
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: mirta on Jul 31, 2013, 01:40 PM
Hi Rad,
I would like to learn from your development of Darwin's sexuality, and be grateful for it.
God Bless
Mirta
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Jul 31, 2013, 06:11 PM
Hi Rad,

I am very interested in anything you have to say about Darwin's chart/sexuality etc. Thank you.

blessings Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Aug 04, 2013, 11:23 AM
Hi Ari, Kristin, Mirta, Gonzalo, Gray, and Upasika

Ok, so I will go ahead and discuss the core inner orientation of the Soul of Darwin to his sexuality. One of the core issues that needs to be understood involves the fact of his nervous system is supercharged because of the nature his philosophical mind as all of you have so incredibly demonstrated in your EA analysis's of Darwin to date.

Because of this this then creates highly excitable and highly sensitive sexual nerves due to deep inner emotional compression that when stimulated can cause quick ejaculation and/ or it can also lead to impotence because of detaching from this emotional inner compression: Uranus in Scorpio conjunct his N.Node in the 11th which then inconjuncts his Venus is Aries in the 3rd which of course is the ruler of his Mars in Libra in the 10th.

This is then restated with his S.Node of Mars conjunct his S.Node of Uranus in the 1st, a natural Aries house. These are ruled by his Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd which of course square his Neptune/Saturn conjunction in the 12th. From a prior life point of view these symbols correlate with an adventurer who desired no sexual or emotional commitment to anyone, and who desires very quick and spontaneous sexual experiences with someone who in the immediacy of the moment. These 'someones' would individuals whom he did not previously know, typically women who from other cultures relative to the various traveling adventures that Darwin's Soul was defined by. And, because of this, certain sexual diseases would occur.

For him and his partner/wife this can of course lead to great emotional/psychological frustration and inner questioning within himself that essentially says "what is wrong with me": Mars in Libra in the 10th squaring his Capricorn Moon in the 2nd. This then leads to a deep sense of guilt within him  because of the very real feeling/ sense of not being able to fulfill the sexual/ emotional needs of his partner/ wife.

With that Mars in Libra in the 10th his partner/ wife would desire/ need long and sustained sexual intercourse, and Darwin would of course know that which only created more guilt within him, more of 'what is wrong with me' type questions: Venus in Aries in the 3rd inconjunting his Uranus in Scorpio in the 11th. With that Venus trining his Saturn/Neptune in Sagittarius in the 12th, the natural ruler of his Moon in Capricorn in the 2nd as well all those S.Nodes of the other planets there, his wife would be naturally forgiving even as she felt a great and personal sense of dissatisfaction sexually/ emotionally speaking. 

This very same aspect pattern also then correlates to extremely unpredictable sexual cycles within him in which his sexual energy/ need is utterly absent. At other times is sexual desire/ need can be intensely immediate with all combinations of these extremes, Libra/Venus, that can cause to feel very confused, as well as his partner/ wife, about why this is.

As all of you have rightly pointed out the core of Darwin's inner orientation to his sexuality was on of essential masturbation as the primary form of sexual release. The Moon in the 2nd as well all those S.Nodes of all the planets in his 2nd, the Aquarius Sun trining his Mars in Libra in the 10th, the S.Node of the Moon itself being in Taurus in the 5th all correlate to this. With that S.Node in mind which is then ruled by his Venus in Aries in the 3rd, trining the Saturn/Neptune in the 12th, ruling the Mars in Libra in the 10th that then squares all those Capricorn planets, the trine to the Sun, these all correlate to a deep orientation to the symbol of the phallus as being all powerful to him, almost to the point of worshiping it. So of course, knowing this from an EA point of view, we can see just how deeply this orientation to masturbation was within the Soul of Darwin.

This orientation would also manifest within him as desiring/ needing his partner/ wife to ejaculate him with her hands: Venus in Aries in the 3rd linked with all the relevant aspects to other planets, the ruler of his Mars, or her mouth; Moon in Capricorn in his 2nd, Cancer on the 8th House cusp.

This orientation to oral forms of sexuality is further symbolized by his Venus being conjunct his Vesta in Aries in the 4th which is rooted in his emotional displacement involving his biological mother which then manifests as as strong attraction to a women's breasts as well: the displacement of nursing as an infant. Oral sex then becomes a vehicle of satisfying his partner/ wife due to being unable to gain an erection at times due to the dynamics that we are discussing: being unpredictably impotent, frigged, or ejaculating very quickly. This would lead to the sustained sex that his parnter/ wife would desire and need: Mars in Libra in the 10th, squaring his Moon, etc.

At the same time, however, the Soul of Darwin would have an aversion to kissing of any depth or duration, pecking the lips in the form of kissing being about as far as he could go. This dynamic is rooted in the inner dynamics of feeling violated because of the 'penetration' involved in deep kissing, the fear of loosing control, of not being in control, because of. It is also rooted in his fear of diseases that becomes displaced relative to having anthers tongue deep inside his mouth. 

With his Mars in the 10th, Capricorn being the ruler of his 2nd House cusp, this would also manifest as his desire to be the dominant sexual partner, of being on 'top' during sexual intercourse. Yet, at the same time, deep within the Soul structure of Darwin stands his desire and need to 'loose control' because of his tightly woven psychology of need to be in control at all times in order to feel psychologically and emotionally safe. Thus, with Cancer on his 8th this need/ desire would translate into an unspoken desire for his parnter/ wife to be the one 'on top': thus to surrender. This need to surrender is also symbolized with Venus, the ruler of his S.Node, trining his Saturn/Neptune in the 12th as well as his Uranus in Scorpio conjunct his N.Node trining his very Soul structure: Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd. Yet it is also, again, inconjunct that same Venus which than restates the psychological/ emotional crisis of loosing control which is rooted in his fears of loss, abandonment, and violations of trust.

Thus, with that Uranus in Scorpio conjunct the N.Node in the 11th, trining the Pluto, we can see as a necessary evolutionary step to liberate from these fears, via sexuality, to allowing his partner/ wife to take control of their sexuality so she can then 'teach', Pluto conjunct his Jupiter, the ruler of his Saturn/Neptune in the 12th, with Juno in between this conjunction, deeper commitment, him in this way.

The liberation that his Soul desires also manifests as the need to understand the causes of his sexual guilt: Mars in the 10th. Beyond what we have already discussed this guilt would also manifest, by way of external conditioning, to the 'duty' of being sexual with his partner/wife. This sense of conditioned sex as a duty would manifest as sex being a 'perfunctory' act. When operating from this psychology this would then lead to anger, Mars in the 10th, which could then become displaced and thus manifesting at various targets, including his wife, that would then seem utterly irrational and bizarre: Uranus in the 11th in Scorpio, the S.Node of Mars conjunct the S.Node of Uranus in Sagittarius in the 1st House.

His sense of sexual guilt would also be rooted in the fact of his marrying someone of within his extended family: a cousin which is symbolized by his Venus in the 3rd inconjuncting his Uranus in Scorpio in the 11th, Venus being the ruler of his Mars in Libra in the 10th. Within this guilt is his inner judgement of  himself manifesting as creating immune system weaknesses within the resulting offspring of sexual intercourse with his cousin. In turn, this fear and inner judgement because a causative factor in his understanding as to why his daughter died so young.

His fear of sexual diseases, which is rooted in his Soul memories, S.Node of Mars conjunct the S.Node of Uranus in the 1st, ruled by his Jupiter in Pisces which then squares his Saturn/Neptune in the 12th, memories for other lifetimes, would then manifest via Mars in Libra in the 10th as a desire for not only personal cleanliness, but also for him and his partner/ wife to be sexually 'clean': thus the need for their bodies to be clean before any sexual event could take place between them.

And, lastly, sexual stimulation for him would also be linked with intellectual stimulation: Venus in the 3rd, ruler of his S.Node, which then is the ruler of his 10th House Mars, squaring his Moon in the 2nd. His partner/ wife was herself quite intellectual and philosophical which lead to great discussions between them. She was the first one that he entrusted to read his manuscript. In this types of discussions this would typically lead to sexual events between them.

If you have any questions about this please ask them of me. In a few days we will continue on in our next step in our planetary method: Jupiter.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Aug 06, 2013, 06:25 AM
Hi Rad,

It's wonderful that you've done this, thank you. For one, I wasn't sure how detailed to be with sexuality on the MB. And two, you also made some very interesting corelations which I'd like to ask you more about - will do that in the next day or so when I have some time.

blessings Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Aug 06, 2013, 08:08 AM
Hi Upasika,
 
Sure, ask anything that you need too.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Aug 08, 2013, 02:19 AM
Hi Rad,

Here are my queries...

1. Quick ejaculation/impotence

Is this due to a Mars/Uranus connection?
(I understand the wider context of his mentally stimulated nerves/emotional compression etc)

Uranus in Scorpio inconjuncting Venus "¦ Uranus representing the highly charged (Scorpio/sexual) nerves. Does the inconjunct resemble a lack of control leading to an early (Mars) ejaculation  (via Venus ruling Mars)?

2. S.Node of Mars conjunct his S.Node of Uranus in the 1st, a natural Aries house (Mars/Uranus connection again)
"¦ ruled by his Jupiter in the 3rd
"¦ which squares his Neptune/Saturn in the 12th

Is it all of these elements that correlate with desiring no sexual or emotional commitment to anyone, or just some of them?

3. Is it the S.Node of Mars conjunct his S.Node of Uranus in the 1st that indicates the desiring very quick and spontaneous sexual experiences with someone in the immediacy of the moment?

4. Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd squaring his Neptune in the 12th. Is it the "squaring his Neptune in the 12th" that would lead to sexual diseases?

5. Mars in Libra in the 10th reflection (10th) about his sex (Mars) and relating (Libra)
Squaring the Moon 2nd - would that be the difficulty pulling away from the tendency for (1st Qtr Sq) low self worth (square Moon in 2nd) resulting from that reflection?

6. Guilt then arising - would that be from the 10th house influence and Cap on the 2nd house cusp?

7. Venus in Aries in the 3rd inconjunting his Uranus in Scorpio in the 11th
The inconjnct giving rise to the self doubt? and the resulting crsis ...

8. Being masturbated by the partner's mouth (oral sex in other words) "¦. wasn't sure of the initial symbols for that...?
(although I did get this symbol for oral sex "¦. Venus being conjunct his Vesta in Aries in the 4th which is rooted in his emotional displacement involving his biological mother which then manifests as as strong attraction to a women's breasts as well: the displacement of nursing as an infant)

9. Uranus in Scorpio conjunct his N.Node trining his very Soul structure: Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd.
Is the reason this symbolizes his need to surrender due to the Scorpio/Pisces influence?

thanks Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Aug 08, 2013, 10:12 AM
Hi Upasika,

Quote from: Upasika on Aug 08, 2013, 02:19 AM
Hi Rad,

Here are my queries...

1. Quick ejaculation/impotence

Is this due to a Mars/Uranus connection?
(I understand the wider context of his mentally stimulated nerves/emotional compression etc)

Uranus in Scorpio inconjuncting Venus "¦ Uranus representing the highly charged (Scorpio/sexual) nerves. Does the inconjunct resemble a lack of control leading to an early (Mars) ejaculation  (via Venus ruling Mars)?

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This is not a lack of control issue. It is simply based on over excitement built up BEFORE the actual sexual event that then lead to this quick ejaculation. This excitement is manifesting in his mind: Uranus in Scorpio in the 11th that inconjuncts his Venus in Aries in the natural Gemini house. When this excitement occurs simultaneously this causes his sexual nerves to become overly sensitized so that when touch, Venus, then occurs to his sexual organs this serves as the trigger for the quick ejaculation. These highly sensitized  sexual nerves are also symbolized by the ruler of his Capricorn Moon in the 2nd which is squaring his 10th House Mars: the Saturn/Neptune conjunction in his 12th which trines his Venus.

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2. S.Node of Mars conjunct his S.Node of Uranus in the 1st, a natural Aries house (Mars/Uranus connection again)
"¦ ruled by his Jupiter in the 3rd
"¦ which squares his Neptune/Saturn in the 12th

Is it all of these elements that correlate with desiring no sexual or emotional commitment to anyone, or just some of them?

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In his recent prior lives this correlates to anyone.

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3. Is it the S.Node of Mars conjunct his S.Node of Uranus in the 1st that indicates the desiring very quick and spontaneous sexual experiences with someone in the immediacy of the moment?

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Yes, especially when we consider that this these S.Nodes square all his Pisces planets in the 3rd, and when we consider Uranus itself in Scorpio IN THE 11TH HOUSE INCONJUCTING HIS VENUS IN THE 3RD. Remember with that Uranus on the N.Node this has been in operation before the current life so given this inconjunction to his Venus, the ruler of his S.Node in Taurus in the 5th trining his Saturn/Neptune in the 12th, the nature of the moment, these in combination correlate to his desire for spontaneous sexual experiences with someone in the immediacy of the moment.

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4. Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd squaring his Neptune in the 12th. Is it the "squaring his Neptune in the 12th" that would lead to sexual diseases?

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Yes, but also his Chiron in Aquarius in his 2nd, squaring the Nodes, and his Uranus in Scorpio This Chiron is also conjunct his S.Node of Neptune which then also square his Nodes. These then correlate to sub-conscious memories of actually having contracted sexual diseases before the current life that lead to his physical death.  Beyond these fears being general, they are also specific to common sexual diseases such as syphilis and gonorrhea.

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5. Mars in Libra in the 10th reflection (10th) about his sex (Mars) and relating (Libra)
Squaring the Moon 2nd - would that be the difficulty pulling away from the tendency for (1st Qtr Sq) low self worth (square Moon in 2nd) resulting from that reflection?

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Yes, and remember that such reflection leads to inner judgement of himself in that same pattern.

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6. Guilt then arising - would that be from the 10th house influence and Cap on the 2nd house cusp?

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Yes, and also the natural ruler of his Capricorn Moon being Saturn in Sagittarius with his Neptune that then square all his Pisces planets. This internalized dynamic, once in place, can then only aggravate this dynamics within him.

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7. Venus in Aries in the 3rd inconjunting his Uranus in Scorpio in the 11th
The inconjnct giving rise to the self doubt? and the resulting crsis ...

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Yes remembering that his Venus is rules his Mars so that the self doubt equaling crisis starts with his own inner judgement upon himself.

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8. Being masturbated by the partner's mouth (oral sex in other words) "¦. wasn't sure of the initial symbols for that...?
(although I did get this symbol for oral sex "¦. Venus being conjunct his Vesta in Aries in the 4th which is rooted in his emotional displacement involving his biological mother which then manifests as as strong attraction to a women's breasts as well: the displacement of nursing as an infant)

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Cancer on the 8th House cusp which is then ruled by his Moon in the 2nd

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9. Uranus in Scorpio conjunct his N.Node trining his very Soul structure: Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd.
Is the reason this symbolizes his need to surrender due to the Scorpio/Pisces influence?

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Yes, but in combination with the ruler of his 2nd House Capricorn Moon being in the 12th house conjunct Neptune trining his Venus, ruler of the S.Node which inconjuncts that Uranus. Additionally, this is symbolized by Cancer on his 8th House cusp which then refers back to that Capricorn Moon.

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God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Aug 09, 2013, 05:06 AM
That's excellent thankyou Rad ...

and I had completely missed (the obvious) Chiron conj SN Neptune in 2nd Aquarius square the lunar Nodes & Uranus in Scorpio ... showing death from past life sexual disease, and the memories (Uranus) of that in this lifetime - being especially prominent with the Uranus conjunct N.Node being his resolution node in this lifetime

blessings Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Aug 10, 2013, 09:44 AM
Hi Upasika, Gray, Ari, and Gonzalo,

We will begin work again on the EA of JWG'S planetary method starting on Monday involving Jupiter in Darwin's chart.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Aug 12, 2013, 10:37 AM
Hi Upasika, Gray, Ari, and Gonzalo,

Ok, so we will now proceed in our next step in the planetary method which is Jupiter, Sagittarius, and the 9th House.

These archetypes all correlate with how any given Soul interprets the phenomenal nature of the Creation. These archetypes correlate to the consciousness of the Soul that makes it aware that it is related or connected to 'something' that is mush larger than itself. They generate the awareness that the very planet, called Earth by humans, is connected to the total Creation itself because of being able to see all the constellations around the earth: the stars in the sky. It is this awareness that then leads to the consciousness of the Soul to wonder, ponder, speculate as to what all this means, to what is the very nature of Creation itself. This natural wondering and pondering takes place within the right hemisphere of the brain that is naturally abstract and conceptual: non linear.

This natural process, archetype, within the consciousness of the Soul not only leads to knowledge, a natural knowledge of the nature of the Creation, but also to beliefs that are nothing but projections upon the Nature of the Creation that have no actual basis is the actual reality of the Creation. These beliefs result in the need from the consciousness of the Soul in human form to have a larger or higher meaning for life itself beyond the daily struggle to live and survive. This quest and need for a higher meaning is of course rooted in the fact that consciousness is aware of the perceived cosmos, the stars around our Earth, that creates the awareness of connectedness to something much larger that the planet upon which we all stand.

Beliefs are not the same as knowledge. When a Soul has actual knowledge of something, to know, there is no need to 'believe' in that something because it is in fact known. When something is not actually known yet that something is inherent to what is perceived by consciousness then the Soul will create or invent beliefs in order to feel that is knows that which it does not know: the underlying need in all Soul's to feel secure.

This is, sadly, why one of the greatest problems for humans, humanity, is the capacity to literally believe in anything in order to feel secure, to 'rationalize' their behavior because of the nature of the invented beliefs.

Historically speaking, humans for the majority of it's time on Earth, did not invent cosmological 'beliefs' until the time that they began to settle into farming communities that progressively left behind the nomadic way of living that defined it's long history before learning how to farm manifested. This happened around 7,000 B.C.E. From that time forwards humans progressively began to essentially invent cosmological, religious, beliefs that were then projected upon the very nature of the phenomenal Creation. All humans thus have their S.Node of Jupiter in Capricorn, along with Saturn and Pluto, that directly correlates to this time frame relative to the transition of the Ages: the Capricorn/ Cancer Age and sub-age.

All humans have their S.Node of Uranus in Sagittarius at the same time that reflects this transition from nomadic, natural, living to beginning to gather into farming communities: the N.Nodes of Jupiter, Saturn, and Pluto all being in Cancer. With the N.Node of Uranus being in Gemini we can now see the symbolism wherein humans evolved into these agricultural communities that then lead to the whole speculation of ideas, Gemini, of a philosophical nature, Sagittarius. In combination these then led to projected religions with all the attending moralities, of rights an wrongs, that allowed humans to live together in increasingly organized wholes: agricultural communities that ultimately became nationalized, races, of people that, in the end, became the countries that we know today.  

Beliefs can of course be used that actually leads to knowledge: the very case we are now studying, Darwin, is a testimony to that fact wherein he would inwardly conceive or postulate something within his consciousness and then set out to 'prove' it in the various scientific, various measurements of an empirical nature, way. Thus, this natural process can then lead to banishing or liberating from projected beliefs by way of the actual knowledge that these various systems of empirical measurement lead too: The Origin of the Species in Darwin's case.

On an inner basis within consciousness the Soul also has the capacity to know the very nature of the Creation, and thus the origins of itself, by way of certain empirical methods that allow it to do so: the secret of the breath for example. This then leads to actual knowledge versus any need to 'believe' anything relative to the nature of the manifested Creation at all.

All Souls coming through time have an evolutionary need, desire, to know the very nature of themselves, and the very nature of Creation itself. In each life the Soul thus orientates too specific types of cultures that have their own consensus beliefs to be born into for it's own evolutionary reasons and needs. Yet, at the same time, these consensus beliefs that the Soul in born into interfaces within the Soul the desire, need, to actually KNOW what is true, and that which is not true. Again, this knowing can be very different that what the nature of the consensus beliefs are. This can of course create a deep internal conflict within Soul's that have evolved beyond the consensus state of evolution.

For Soul's that have evolved beyond the consensus state of evolution this then leads to a progressive rebelling or rejections of consensus beliefs of any kind that is set in motion by the desire within the Soul to actually KNOW that which is true, and not true from the point of view of the Natural Laws that we set in motion by the Creation Of All Things itself.

We can now to apply these archetypes to Darwin's evolutionary journey. We know that his Soul is in the 3rd stage of the individuated state. We know the culture, and thus consensus beliefs, of his birth. We also have a slight glimmer of the Soul of Darwin in a prior life as William Dampier that lead to being Darwin so that we can see the evolutionary background, and thus progression, from life to life. For example, Dampier had his natal Jupiter in Sagittarius in his 12th, which, for Darwin correlated to his Sagittarius Saturn/Neptune conjunction in his 12th House.

So let us now examine exactly the very nature of the types of knowledge, to know, that the Soul of Darwin has desired, and the very nature of the beliefs that he had that would then lead to his need, desire, to know. We need to focus on the following symbols in order to know this:

His S.Node of Uranus in is Sagittarius conjunct his S.Node of Mars in his first house. These are then ruled by his Jupiter in Pisces in his 3rd which of course is conjunct the very nature of his evolving Soul structure: Pluto in Pisces. And these, of course, are taking place within the context of all his other 3rd house Pisces Planets, his Venus in Aries as well. His Jupiter is in a new phase relative to his Pluto, and his Pluto is squaring his natal Saturn/Neptune conjunction in his 12th, Neptune being the ruler of his Jupiter. These two planets are also inconjunct his S.Node of Taurus in his 5th that is ruled by his Venus in Aries in the 3rd, which is then trine those two planets. Sagittarius in on his Ascendant, and his has Leo on his 9th House cusp which is then ruled by his Aquarius Sun in his 2nd House which is ruled by his Uranus in Scorpio on his N.Node in his 11th.

If you have any questions please ask them of me know.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: ari moshe on Aug 18, 2013, 08:16 PM
Hi Rad, just really wanted to thank you for that extra piece your shared about Darwin's sexuality and your response to Upasika. I look forward to continuing this thread.
Love, am
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Post by: Rad on Aug 25, 2013, 10:33 AM
Hi Ari, Gonzalo, Gray, and Upasika

Can you please let me know where you are at in this next step ? Thanks,

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Aug 25, 2013, 02:48 PM
Hi Rad, I'm working on this right now and will be posting this week.
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Post by: Upasika on Aug 25, 2013, 04:29 PM
Hi Rad,

I'll be working on it as I can, and hopefully post it next weekend.

thanks Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Aug 26, 2013, 08:43 PM
Analysis of Darwin's Jupiter.
Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd. New phase conjunction with Pluto. Balsamic phase with Mercury. Jupiter in mututal reception with Saturn and Neptune in Sag in the 12th conj the AC.
Jupiter gibbous phase sesquiquadrate to the north node. Sag ruler of 1st house.
Leo on the 9th ruled by the Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd which is ruled by Uranus on the nn in Scorpio in the 11th.

South node of Uranus in sag in the 1st, conjunct sn of Mars, both ruled by Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd.
South node of Jupiter in Capricorn in the 1st house, ruled by Saturn in Sag in the 12th. SN of Jupiter conjunct Moon and square Mars in Libra in the 10th as well as IC/MC axis and Venus in Aries in the 3rd on the IC.

North node of Jupiter in Gemini in the 7th squares MC/IC axis and Venus in Aries in the 3rd on the IC as well as natal Jupiter itself.

This soul has first intuitively sensed that there are inherent principals (Jupiter) that can explain the seeming chaos of the environment (Pisces 3rd). This intuition was a simple matter of knowing from within, that there exists an underlying and universal truth that can empirically explain how and why phenomenal reality is the way it is. Given the placement of Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd, the soul was naturally aware of the prevailing social opinions and beliefs - and relative to the new phase conjunction with Pluto this soul would not have been satisfied, or capable, with merely accepting any of that at face value. The intention for this soul has been to see the bottom line and the weak point in the cosmological constructs that define most people's outlook on reality. He would have been emotionally tuned into to, and quite sensitive to where empirical logical thinking was used to justify pre-established beliefs. As has been discussed previously, in prior lives and in the early life of Darwin, this soul has truly sought out to conclude for himself the beliefs of the religious outlook at the time. He has attempted to prove these beliefs to himself so as to create some sense of security and meaning in his life. This of course only lead to disillusionment and disappointment as more data, more facts about reality seemed to become more of an elephant in the room (Jupiter) that were in contradiction to the religious conclusions.

The evolutionary intention within the life of Darwin was to refine the observations that had been made, many of which in prior life times, and to make the necessary inner adjustments that would allow this soul to establish the conclusions that are logically and scientifically sound and fit. Jupiter gibbous sesquiquad to the nn in Scorpio in the 11th. With the ruler of the nn conj Uranus and ruled by Pluto which is with Jupiter it implies the immensity of focus within this soul to observe and correlate.

The implications of the gibbous phase sesquisquare here is that this was a transitional life - one where the Jupiter function of interpretation and understanding needed to become clarified and developed through inner focus and analysis. This implies that prior to the life of Darwin there have been lots of data collection and scientific observations as to the nature of reality, and that the life of Darwin itself was about developing greater humility and awareness of personal limitation, as the gibbous sesquiquadrate produces a strong "take care of the details" kind of energy - which for this soul would imply a narrowing, slowing down of his seeking and traveling and a focusing inward to synthesize/develop of all that he had found. He would have naturally gone through periods of great self doubt, feeling overloaded with information and a frequent reaction to go out and gather even more data and to ask even more question. However for this soul the real growth was in working with what he had already found and checking to see if the tested data confirms his own intuitions. This is in fact what he had done. The fact that this gibbous phase is so new really implies that there had been a great amount of scientific explorations and charting of data in prior lives - as per the first quarter phase, it was about actualizing his creativity in the world. Now in the life of Darwin, the gibbous phase required a deep turning within and to finalize any intuitions he has had with concrete and tested scientific evidence, proof.

At his evolutionary stage the core intention has been to think for himself, and to venture out alone and figure it out by himself. The sn of Jupiter in Capricorn in the 1st, squaring Mars in Libra in the 10th as well as the MC IC axis and Venus has a number of implications. It describes the overarching past of this Jupiter function: how this soul has formulated his own understanding of reality and the kinds of beliefs/dogmas that have come through that. Also, since every culture/time has its own cosmology, it describes how this soul's own understanding was shaped/affected by the current beliefs of the time. This soul has required a great amount of freedom and independence to establish and determine for himself what the truth is. He has navigated the terrains of unmapped, not-yet classified data (Jupiter sn in first relative to Pisces in the third) and has created definition (Capricorn, 10th house square, Saturn in Sag in the 12th with Neptune) for what was previously wild and unclassified. The ruler of the Jupiter sn is Saturn in a balsamic conjunction with Neptune and are both ruled by Jupiter. This soul has been dissolving all kinds of rigid, calcified thinking about reality that only served the purpose of creating security in the context of the unknown - and at the same time coming up with various conclusions that reflect the structural nature of reality as it is, not as others would believe it to be. For several lifetimes he has been en route to establishing his authority as a guide, traveler, charter of unknown places - and in so doing has provided an expanded context for the masses to understand the larger world in which they live.

Coming into the life of Darwin it's clear that there were simply strong desires to continue in that direction towards an all encompassing understanding. The truth seeking in the life of Darwin took more the shape of understanding a grand thesis of creation that explains the actual nature of things. This is an evolution relative to the actual discovery and mapping of land. This Jupiter function was now setting forth to create actual conclusions about the bigger philosophical/cosmological picture - meaning less seeking and more finding. This has satisfied within the soul to some extent the timeless yearning within to reconcile with the seeming meaninglessness of reality and his own existence.

This soul naturally took it upon himself to become single focused and committed to the goal of finding what he was seeking - Jupiter sn in Cap in the 1st. Conjuct Cap Moon in the 2nd, brings in all the correlations already spoken to: hermiting, creating a safe home environment for deep internalization and emotional safety which is something the soul deeply needed during the life of Darwin after such a strong soul history of being emotionally unstable. The sn of Jupiter squares Mars and the MC implying the sensitivity within this soul to define his comsmology and navigate his own sense of direction and purpose in this life with respect to the social customs and norms of society; that he has felt pressured from within himself to have the answers and achieve the goal of his seeking. What's implied in this are issues around his own authority and certainty of the truth. A few things I can see here:
One is where he was dogmatic and controlling of his own ideas; to the point of not being open to other points of views. He has defended those ideas in a very childish way to reflect his emotional identification with them: 1st house squaring IC in Aries, and has also amassed a following of other people who adopted this soul as their own authority: Jupiter in Pisces with its sn squaring the MC in Libra as well as the Saturn 12th correlations. The bottom line insecurity within this soul of not knowing and feeling lost because of that not knowing - Pluto Jupiter in Pisces - lead him to formulate strong conclusive ideas that he was certain of and to hold that very firmly - sn of Jupiter in Cap in the 1st.

His ideas about nature would also "validate and prove" the prevailing assumptions of the times regarding gender and sexuality. Meaning, his own relationship to his sexuality, his identity as a man and assumptions about gender and gender roles affected the kinds of conclusions he ended up with.

What I see from these square aspects is also that he has been learning how to apply his ideas in a way that is in cooperation with how society functions - so he has needed to repress his desire for absolute freedom and authority and also learn how to fit in, to socialize well, to know how to relate to all different kinds of people: all the Mars in Libra in the 10th dynamics that have been previously addressed here. Sexually, he has given himself the right to pursue the gratification that he wanted - possibly creating children in foreign land that he abandoned as a result of his sexual adventures. This is implied, in addition to the sn of Mars being in Sag in the 1st, with the sn of Jupiter in Cap in the 1st squaring natal Mars and Venus on the IC. Courting and being attractive to lots of women, having quick sexual encounters and then moving on. The issue around ethics, responsibility and family come up with the strong Capricorn emphasis. This has contributed to the guilt within this soul which has lead to an incredibly conservative sexual nature in the life of Darwin. Note in Dampier's chart, the gibbous phase sesquiquadrate between Saturn in Cancer in the 8th and Jupiter in Sag in the 12.

The north node of Darwin's Jupiter is in Gemini in the 7th, which is ruled by mercury in a balsamic conjuction with Pluto and also squares Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd. This corresponds to the evolutionary development for this soul to ever question his assumptions/conclusions/certainty through the realization that there are always more points of views and data to take into account. This humbles the soul's pattern of needing to find some sort of answer in order to feel emotionally secure. The evolutionary imperative within this is to ultimately realize that the mind itself will never reach a finitude state of certainty regarding what is true; all of his conclusions can be challenged with more information. Even what he has intuitied to be truth is only a part of the total truth, not the entirety of it. Thus, this soul will be exposed to other people that offer counter perspectives/cosmologies that contradict what Darwin has come to find as totally true. The attraction to such relationships and the curiosity of their foreign way of life/ way of thinking will ultimately lead Darwin to become directly exposed to an experience of reality that is beyond what he thought was true/ does not fit into to his organized idea of what is possible.
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Post by: Rad on Aug 27, 2013, 11:22 AM
Hi Ari,

First, thanks for taking the time you have to do an EA analysis of why Darwin's chose to have his Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd combined with all the other relevant Jupiter signatures that you have pointed out.

Your EA analysis is exceptionally sound, and very correct. In so doing you are helping all those who have come to read this thread on the planetary method of chart analysis. This is how EA is meant to be done.

Bravo !

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Gray on Aug 28, 2013, 02:20 AM
Hi Rad,

I've fallen behind working on this in light of numerous personal issues. I will be working on it this week.
with gratitude,
Gray
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Aug 30, 2013, 10:19 AM
Hi Gonzalo,

First, thanks for taking the time to work on this segment of planetary method of interpretation. Your EA analysis of how the inner workings of Darwin's consciousness manifesting in his mind, or intelligence, from his evolutionary past, and the reasons for that, which you then brilliantly interfaced with the life of Darwin wherein it all began to come together, new phase Pluto/Jupiter, is just brilliant EA work. The very essence of what you have presented is the difference between 'beliefs' versus actual knowing. And it is that actual knowing, the core desire within the Soul of Darwin, that finally lead to his revolutionary/ evolutionary work called the Origin of the Species.

Your presentation of the inner process within Darwin that lead to his seminal work, from the past to the present, is simply incredible. This is how EA is meant to be done. In so doing, you are helping, along with the others in our little group here, all others who have, and do, come to this thread to read, and to learn.

Brilliant EA work Gonzalo.

Bravo !!

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Upasika on Sep 03, 2013, 05:18 AM
Hi Rad,

I had hoped to post by now, but haven't been able to. However I will be able to over the next 2 or 3 days for sure, hopefully the medical one too. Thanks for waiting.

Upasika
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Post by: Upasika on Sep 08, 2013, 07:30 PM
 Hi Rad,

Apologies it takes me such a long time to post sometimes, there has been a lot on as I gradually transition back into better health, which isn't always a straightforward process. But finally managed to get it done.


                           Why Darwin's Jupiter is in Pisces in the 3rd House

One of the key characteristics of life as we know it is on-going renewal - from the ability of an organism to grow, and then give birth to a new baby, to new stars forming out of cosmic dust, to the continual expansion of the universe itself. In many ways it's this factor of becoming new, and of never-ending growth and movement, that appears to be central to life, what makes life "life". And Jupiter encapsulates and represents this possibly more than any of the other planets.

Generally survival is the most fundamental on-going process humans engage in, and takes place externally. But this doesn't happen in a vacuum - we are always surrounded by our environment. And (as Rad has described) gazing up at the stars at night has never failed to give rise to two other fundamental yet quite different processes a human being experiences, ones which take place internally.

Firstly, a sense of awe and wonder - awe at the vastness (Pisces/Neptune), and wonder at the meaning (Jupiter) of the experience - of what it means to simply be present and able to view such magnificence in the first place - a very inner process. One of the significant abilities that differentiates humans from animals is this ability to reflect and to be self-conscious. And while the arising of awe and wonder is not the only factor that induces self-awareness, it is a very significant one, as it also brings perspective to our daily existence by showing us how truly small we are in the entire scheme of things.

This in turn taps into the deepest need of human beings after physical survival - the need to feel secure (which arises from the sense of being separate). Physical survival is not enough to make us feel fully secure. We also seem to be in limbo - above animals yet so frail and small, still a tiny force existing within what appears to be an infinite universe, and this only further heightens the sense of being separate and alone. In response to this need to also feel secure inwardly as well as outwardly, a second fundamental inner process is activated - the process of trying to not feel isolated and instead to feel "connected".

In matriarchal times this need and it's resulting process induced a shamanistic response, a reverence for and simple worship of the seasons and elements and other natural phenomena, and used celebration (Jupiter) of what is as a means to feel connected to the total environment. And because this response was based in nature it reaffirmed the feeling of the natural connection mankind already has with Nature, and this in turn promoted a sense of being in the right place, an unassuming sense of oneness (Pisces). But since the advent of the patriarchy simple innocent wonder at the meaning of life turned into a desire to know what it meant to be alive, a search for understanding the reason for human existence. While the matriarchal response, based on revering and celebrating existence was a heart-based trusting response, the patriarchal reaction was based on intellect and doubt, and all the associated beliefs and other mental constructs the mind has created in that process.

So together Neptune, and then the Jupiter response (via matriarchal trust or patriarchal doubt), relate to the big picture. And along with the survival process (Saturn), within patriarchal times they correspond to humankind's predominate preoccupation - coping with the need to feel secure within this vastness of the universe. As Rad explained, in the consensus consciousness this manifests through "understanding" existence based on (the shortcut of) invented beliefs, so-called knowledge. Whereas those who are individuating look for understanding through inner and outer experimentation and validated empirical evidence, which is a much more arduous process for arriving at knowledge of anything, but produces an understanding that is aligned with actuality. And those in the spiritual stage move beyond the focus to understand reality, desiring instead direct union with existence itself.

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Interestingly enough, Neptune and Jupiter are in a way key planets in Darwin's chart. This is because the Aquarius 2nd house points (Sun/Pallas/Chiron) are ruled by the Scorpio 11th house Uranus, which is ruled by the Pisces 3rd house Pluto (which along with all the other Pisces 3rd house Mercury/Ceres/Juno/Jupiter) is ruled by the Sagittarius 12th house Neptune (which along with all the other Sagittarius points Saturn/ASC/SNs of Uranus & Mars) is ruled by Jupiter, which is ruled by Neptune "¦ those two being in mutual reception, and so there the zodiac rulership trail stops, endlessly looping on those two planets. The only parts of the chart not disposited (ultimately ruled) by Jupiter or Neptune are "¦

a) the Capricorn 2nd house Moon - being ruled by Saturn (yet since Saturn is part of the rulership trail described above that drags the Moon into it anyway), and

b) the Taurus 5th house SN being ruled by Aries 3rd house Venus (which along with Vesta) is ruled by the Libra 10th house Mars, which is ruled by Venus (those two also being in mutual reception and endlessly looping on one another).

So it is only this last small SN/Venus/Mars cluster of energy that is truly outside the rulership chain of Jupiter and Neptune. This highlights that Jupiter and Neptune have become central to Darwin's whole chart in his life, and the reason for this stems from his very distant past.

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We know that for many, many lives now Darwin has been focussed on mental experience and development (packed 3rd house stellium of Mercury, Pallas, Ceres, Juno, Jupiter and Pluto). But why was Jupiter in this 3rd house situation?

Firstly we can see as part of this, that whatever Darwin's beliefs (Jupiter) were, they were obviously enmeshed in this long history of mental development. Having such a stellium like that in the 3rd house would always indicate intense mental development had occurred prior to the current life for one reason or another - even if Pluto wasn't involved, it would just be to a lesser extent. But a major factor here with Pluto being involved shows us that this prior process of mental development has been deeply on-going, that it has become an issue at the core Soul level, a part of the Soul's evolutionary journey. And because beliefs belong to the mental realm, Darwin's beliefs will no doubt have roots in this process which has been unfolding throughout many recent past lives.

However another factor is that Jupiter is in a new conjunction to Pluto, which shows us a new cycle between Jupiter and Pluto is just beginning, because the entire previous cycle of development between these two planets has very recently culminated. Again, this points to a long succession of lives where the formation and development of beliefs and understanding has been playing out, and which very recently has completed. With Jupiter being at the beginning of a new cycle of understanding at the Soul level (new conjunction), a great deal of openness in regard to understanding and beliefs would be present, and there would not yet be any new beliefs formed. So basically the only full formed beliefs Darwin would have then would be one's he had developed throughout that previous Jupiter/Pluto cycle that has recently completed. Before looking at what that process would have been about in more detail, let's first dig further into the Soul's past to see why that recently completed Jupiter/Pluto cycle had even come into being, what was its cause.

To see that we'll have to look at the SNs of both those planets (Pluto and Jupiter). And here it gets very interesting, as we find the SN of Jupiter is in a close balsamic conjunction to Pluto! This introduces another fully culminated cycle of Jupiter and Pluto from the even more distant past. So what was that much older process all about, what were the understandings and beliefs formed way back then? To answer that we'll need to go into the primary situations in those more distant past lives.

In those lives the Soul has been concerned with core survival issues (SN of Pluto, the anchor -slowest- point in the conjunction, is in the 2nd house). The main process of the 2nd house is identification of what is needed to survive, which sorts out what are the most important things in life, and are therefore the most valuable for a person. The solidification (2nd is an Earth house) of this results in one's "values". What is valued however naturally also conditions a person's beliefs. If I don't have enough clothing to protect myself from the elements and keep healthy, then clothing becomes very valuable to me and it becomes very important to conserve it as much as possible. It will also tend to make me think that clothing is more important than food to survive - not because it necessarily is in an objective way for everybody, but because for me it is. Over time that way of thinking will also solidify (Earth) into a "belief" - a fixed idea, or fixed group of logically connected ideas (a concept), which I think is always true. It may in fact be true, or it may not be. But being a belief, whether it is or not I will continue to think it is regardless (Jupiter).  

So firstly, what would the issues of those very distant past lives, preceding the recently completed Jupiter/Pluto cycle, have been about? The SN Pluto and the cusp of the 2nd are both in Capricorn so we know the Soul's issues in those lives will have had a lot to do with tangible realities (Earth sign), structure and goals, self-determination, it's local world situation & how it was run, authority, status etc (Capricorn). This is further reinforced by SN Pluto being conjunct the SN of Saturn. This creates a lot of Capricorn vibration around those 2nd house issues, probably too much for all those factors to have been in balance. This then indicates those lives would have involved many of the negative sides to Capricorn - the Soul being either in a dominanting position, or otherwise a subordinate position, in relation to the world.

Since both SN Pluto and SN Saturn are squaring Mars in the 10th (SN Saturn very closely), and the 10th being the natural Capricorn house,  it would have been the latter -  lives involving struggle, suppression, cruelty,  excessive discipline by, and submission to, the authorities of those times  - and it's likely whatever individuality he had was crushed (Saturn). This is further reinforced when we see that Saturn, the ruler of the SN Pluto and SN Saturn, is in the 12th house conjunct Neptune, indicating a great deal of time was spent alone in isolation. As the 12th house correlates externally (amongst other things) to institutions, and given the state of societies in those times, we can safely assume a significant amount of that time in isolation was spent in prison, monasteries etc. (Further reasons for and mechanisms involving this have been gone into in more detail in previous posts)

These were the issues at that more distant period in the Soul's evolution. So how would the beliefs of the Soul at that time have been conditioned by this survival process? In this life of Darwin the Soul is in the 3rd sub-stage of the Individuated stage of consciousness. But back in those distant past lives it would have inevitably been at a prior stage of consciousness, most likely consensus. Therefore the Soul's beliefs would have been more or less based on the level of herd instinct - safety in numbers, jostling within the herd hierarchy for the optimum position in the pecking order, believing without question the accepted viewpoint on most matters etc. Therefore the Soul would have taken the life experiences it had back then very literally (both Capricorn and the 2nd house are of the Earth element). Thus the Soul would have believed that life was incredibly tough, that survival was all that mattered, that material possessions were God, on a personality level that "who" they were was an unchangeable reality, that the way society was structured was unalterable, that the country it belonged to was home even if it was hell, and at worst, that this whole view of life was all that life could ever be (Capricorn correlates to depression).

To see how this survival process would have conditioned the Soul's distant beliefs let's examine the condition of the ruler of the SN Jupiter/SN Pluto conjunction in Capricorn 2nd - another look at Saturn again but this time as it relates to understanding and beliefs. Given what we have discovered above, Saturn in the 12th house in Sagittarius tends to indicate that the Soul would have been struggling (Saturn) with understanding (Sagittarius) things of a 12th house nature, which was likely to have been things such as being persecuted, feeling helpless, feeling lost, loneliness, feeling  a victim, possibly feeling suicidal at times. But Saturn being in a balsamic conjunction to Neptune shows even that situation was not new!! "¦ Neptune is the natural ruler of the 12th. The further down the rabbit hole we go here, the further back in time we end up. However now we finally start to see where Darwin's beliefs were probably originally seeded, and what they were all about.

With Saturn ruling the SNs of Jupiter and Pluto, this culminated Saturn/Neptune cycle shows that during those same series of very distant lives during which the Soul had such intense 2nd house issues going on, it has also been trying to find meaning, even inspiration, within the mundane reality of life, within the struggle to survive, despite it's oppressive situations. That the anchor planet, Neptune, is also in the 12th indicates however that things had gone beyond simply looking for "inspiration" (the Pisces principle now being extra emphasised). Given that Saturn is the ruler of the oppressive 2nd house issues, this indicates that the Soul had become extremely disillusioned with the whole of life itself. But why was this? The cause for that will be shown by the situation of the SN's of Saturn and Neptune respectively.

As far as Saturn goes, it was SN of Saturn which brought us to the 12th house in the first place. And we know the SN Saturn was to do with survival struggles, with value formation. So we'll need to examine Neptune's SN for fresh information regarding this total disillusionment with life. And we see the SN of Neptune is almost exactly conjunct Chiron in the 2nd - in a nutshell wounding from the survival/value formation process, back even further in the Soul's history - in its very distant, distant past. But also being in Aquarius and square it's ruler, Uranus, in the 11th house confirms that this struggle for survival during those very, very distant lives was indeed exceptionally traumatic (the Aquarius principle correlates to trauma), and additionally with Uranus being in Scorpio that back then this trauma had penetrated down to the core Soul level.

So here we have arrived at the bottom line issue of those very, very distant lifetimes. It was this deepest wounding to the Soul of its self-reliance, self-esteem (2nd), self-determination (Cap on 2nd house cusp), and thus it's individuality (the Aquarius/Uranus/11th factors), that motivated the Soul to look for something beyond the mundane, shown by the culminated Saturn/Neptune cycle in the 12th. This soul wounding would also have provoked the Soul into wanting to understand (Jupiter) life much more (the Saturn/Neptune conjunction is in Sagittarius). Thus the urge to find inspiration in life (Neptune), probably through escape had become joined to the urge to understand life (Jupiter), but again not in a vacuum - it was initially driven into being by the torturous 2nd house conditions the Soul endured for so many lives in its very, very distant past.

So now retracing our steps - from the deep wounding that occurred in the 2nd house in the Soul's very, very distant past, back to the less remote but still more distant 12th house efforts to escape from mundane reality, and the corresponding cycle of learning and attempted growth this produced (SN Jupiter conjunct SN Pluto in Capricorn). With the SN of Pluto in the 2nd the factors of survival, values and self - esteem were still the central issues, but with the SN of Jupiter being in the 1st we can see that the Soul had now "awoken" to itself to a degree - it had identified itself as it's most promising resource in those lifetimes, in terms of learning and attempting to expand it's understanding of how the world worked (SN Jupiter in Capricorn). The Soul would have started to ask questions about its society, about it's reality, and then pondered over possible answers until it came up with something that seemed right.  

So that SN Jupiter/SN Pluto cycle would have been when the Soul deeply studied how society actually worked, in order to enhance it's survival prospects. And because the ruler (Saturn) is in Sag no doubt it was in those distant lifetimes that the Soul left the stability of it's 2nd house oppressive situations and ventured away from it's home to other parts of the country, and eventually onto journeys to new lands and cultures. Through these journeys the Soul would have found all the things described by the ruler of the SN Jupiter/SN Pluto conjunction (Saturn in Sag 12th conjunct Neptune) - escape, inspiration, exposure to other lifestyles, learning, and an expansion of possibilities and understanding. And slowly but surely this would have dramatically altered the Soul's core beliefs about life - that life was always hardship, that survival was all that mattered, that material possessions were God, on a personality level that "who" they were was an unchangeable reality, that the way society was structured was unalterable, that the country it belonged to was home even if it was hell, and at worst, that this whole view of life was all that life could ever be etc. This changing of the Soul's core beliefs would have developed once the Soul took some initiative, shown by SN Jupiter in the 1st house.

And possibly this was the point that the Soul made the initial movement towards individuation, moving into the transition between the Consensus stage and the Individuated stage. This is reaffirmed by the SNs of Mars and Uranus being in Sagittarius in the 1st house, showing that the Soul's breakout from it's prison-like conditions through learning to think about the bigger picture for itself (SN Jup in 1st) was both an act of courage against the prevailing societal opinions and beliefs (SN Mars Sag 1st exact square Jupiter in 3rd) and also an act of mental defiance (SN Uranus Sag 1st closely squaring Pluto in the 3rd) as the Soul started to strike out independently in a search for a better life, but also a better understanding of life.

So now we can return to the Soul's latest past lives during which the recently culminated Jupiter/Pluto cycle had been playing out. And now we know the deep history that has brought this cycle into being. Namely the Soul breaking out on its own (1st) in search for more meaning in life via a huge (Sagittarius, Jupiter) desire to escape (Neptune) from the mundane (2nd house issues, Taurus on 6th) - the result of a courageous and defiant (Aquarius, Uranus, Mars, 1st) reaction which had arisen up within the Soul as a result of years of struggle and hardship (Capricorn, Saturn) which the Soul had believed (Jupiter) in for a very great number of lives out of sheer necessity because that was the Soul's primary experience for such a long time.

So now we are back to this most recently culminated cycle of Jupiter and Pluto, which would have occurred in lives closely prior to the life of Darwin. This cycle would have been all about the Soul opening its doors to life in order to allow it's pent up frustrations and suffering from all the previous lifetimes room to finally breathe and be expressed. Hence Jupiter/Pluto is in Pisces, reflecting the now strong urges the Soul had accumulated for escape, but also for an all-inclusive view, and for genuine inspiration, and also due to the Soul's now long association with the combined Sagittarius/Pisces vibration (the mutual reception of Neptune in Sag/12th, Jupiter in Pisces) - the urge for a true understanding of life based on an experience of oneness. The Soul was most likely to have found travel in nature and other cultures (ruler of Pluto, Neptune in Sag) a natural situation in which it could have experienced this. During its travels the Soul would have encountered many new and foreign phenomena, cultures and viewpoints of all kinds. This would have challenged the Soul's mental horizons and ability to comprehend its experiences. It would have exposed it to bigotry and prejudice of all kinds, that of other people and also its own. The Soul would have initiated many relationships as it explored its changing surroundings and the situations (3rd house) it found itself in. And besides positive interactions with others, when viewpoints and beliefs that differed too much were involved inevitably the Soul would have had negative interactions, which would have left unresolved karma for the Soul. This most recent Jupiter/Pluto cycle would have been a cycle of ever expanding mental horizons (Jupiter) as the Soul moved from a focus on the cosmos (ruler of Pluto, Neptune in the 12th) to the immediate (Pluto in 3rd), and then back again, in an ever changing kaleidoscope of revolving experience and meaning (Jupiter in it's changing aspects to Pluto as the entire cycle between them unfolded).

So that was what was happening as a result of that recently culminated Jupiter/Pluto cycle in the group of lives most prior to Darwin. If we look now at the life immediately before the Soul incarnated as Darwin, we see in that chart (as per Rad, the life of the Soul prior to Darwin was William Dampier) a Sagittarius Ascendant and the Moon in the 9th, Jupiter in the 12th conjunct the ASC trine Mercury, and Neptune in the 1st in Sagittarius (the independent traveling, with an interest in both the right brained metaphysical and religious, and as well logical left brain, experience). And Jupiter (higher mind) is in a Gibbous opposition to Pluto (in Gemini - lower mind) approaching the Full phase. This shows the full blown hunger for knowledge, the desire for growth, understanding and expansion that was coming to peak in the Soul's life as Dampier. And with Mars & the SN in in the 10th (self-determination), and the ruler of the SN (Venus) in gibbous opposition again to Jupiter, the desire for fulfilment of the Jupiter/Pluto energies in this life would have been further heightened and intensified. And indeed, we know from history that Dampier pursued this goal (Mars in 10th) with an amazingly single minded desperation, circumnavigating the world by ship three times (which was a world first), hardly spending much time on land at all.

Such was the intensity with which Dampier pursued his Jupiter/Pluto desires for understanding and knowledge of nature, and an experience of the vast spaces of life - via the open sea and sky (Jupiter in 12th) - that by the time the Soul reincarnated as Darwin in it's next life the Jupiter/Pluto desires had all been effectively fulfilled on that level and thus culminated, and so Darwin was born with a brand new Jupiter/Pluto cycle at his disposal. We can also see in Dampier's chart the karma that had been accumulated with people (Pluto in the 7th and SN Moon and Mars in Libra), and this was carried through into Darwin's life with Mars still in Libra, and the SN Moon in Taurus with Venus (relating) being the ruler (Venus was also the ruler of Dampier's SN in Libra). Through travelling so extensively Dampier was also seeking an exotic and liberating experience of himself (Uranus conjunct Neptune, and also the PPP all being in the 1st), something that would set him free (all in Sagittarius). But rather what he would have found was an endless world of natural wonders, many amazing parallels yet just as many enigmas, a great deepening of his intuitive powers, and many fascinating yet unexplained mysteries. While he had no planets in the 3rd house, he had Mercury in the 8th house, and Jupiter in the 12th - he wanted to penetrate and understand these mysteries. And while his 3rd house was empty, it had Pisces intercepted in it "¦ unknowing to Dampier perhaps, but the Soul was indeed preparing for many mysteries to be explained, because in the next life Darwin also had Pisces intercepted in the 3rd house, but this time with a full arsenal of energies to provide the explanations - Mercury balsamic conjunct Pluto new conjunct Jupiter. And this finally, was why Jupiter was in this 3rd house situation.

And in the life of Darwin everything was ready for the explanation of mysteries to happen. Along with the Soul's many, many previous journeys in nature, Dampier's wild journeys had by and large regenerated the Soul's individuality to a full and functional state (Darwin had SN Moon in 5th -- the Leo house - with it's ruler in Aries; and Mars was still in the 10th - a full unimpeded determination to pursue his desires; and again a Sagittarian Ascendant - in summary, plenty of self-centred fire in operation). And all these journeys would have slowly but surely wiped his mind clear of a great deal of its prejudice. Nature doesn't argue, it just is, and he would have dealt with it in many recent life journeys. We can also see that the Soul's ancient wound to it's self-esteem (which had since had emotional wounding added to it, as described in past posts) has been brought forward and emphasised for attention and healing in this life (Chiron in 2nd is square the Moon's Nodal axis).

So what would Darwin's beliefs have been? How much of those ancient Soul memories would still be manifesting as beliefs? He had some beliefs of course, but by and large Darwin was a free man. As discussed previously Darwin knew in his bones not to take survival for granted, and had manoeuvred himself to be born into wealth (SN Taurus 5th, Moon in Cap 2nd), which took the pressure off in that regard and he no longer needed to believe in striving for a better life anymore - he now had one.

He also demonstrated strong religious beliefs (Saturn/Neptune in 12th). But that is perhaps where strong dogmatic beliefs ended with Darwin. This Soul has had such a battering so many distant lives ago, followed recently by a massive internal rebellion, that at least as far as the external world was concerned it's mind has become much more open and flexible (the massive mutability of the Pisces 3rd house stellium). With Leo on the 9th house cusp there would be a certain fixity (wilfulness) about finding the truth, but also a certain nobility and generousness (Leo) with regard to open-mindedness and fairness in that process (9th house cusp ruler the Sun in Aquarius).

But as we know, Darwin didn't actually waste time becoming attached to beliefs at all. Instead generally speaking he was a very "reasonable" man in his view of the world and the people in his life, because he could see things from different sides (3rd house) and didn't have a dogmatic mind full of fixed beliefs. With Jupiter in a new conjunction to Pluto, he was now in this life more of an open book, ready to consider endless new possibilities in the interpretation of the thousands of facts he collected about everything that interested him (Mercury is balsamic to Pluto so he was now an expert in factual collection and organisation etc). But rather than get bogged down with beliefs, Darwin preferred to invest in painstaking mental discipline and experimentation (this Mercury conjunct Pluto square Saturn) as a pathway to mental certainty and understanding (Jupiter), and the strong religious  convictions he had from childhood onwards gradually died a natural and mostly painless death much later on the altar of such scientific enquiry.

Darwin was also constantly reminded about the uncertainty of anything in life when his most beloved daughter died at 10, and also on an on-going basis via his ill-health for which he never found a cure. These things made him even more determined to penetrate to some greater reality before he died (Uranus new conjunct resolution NN Moon in Scorpio), and the stronger that desire for truth (Jupiter/Pluto in Pisces; ruler Neptune in Sagittarius 12th, PPP in 9th) became the less he believed in anything. His Soul had suffered so much in its deep past because of his own (and other people's) beliefs that he has needed to break free in a hugely intelligent reaction to such manmade limitations. So instead Darwin never assumed he was automatically right. In his quest for truth he voluntarily constructed belief after belief (hypotheses), testing each one in turn for logical consistency, for repeatable validation by experiment, and for objective verification with others in the scientific community (Jupiter gibbous sesquiquadrate NN/Uranus conjunction in 11th).

Nevertheless there was great opposition throughout society to his findings, which threatened the safety of himself and his family (Mars Full phase quincunx Jupiter). And with Jupiter sextile his Moon, it would have been very understandable if he had stopped his quest for the truth, and instead let any remaining unproven hypotheses gradually solidify within into his own private beliefs. Here though is a fascinating insight into how completely the old beliefs that the Soul had from threats to it's survival in those distant past lives (that survival was all that mattered, that there was safety in numbers, that the way society was structured was unalterable etc) had been deeply eradicated from the Soul's mental structure. Because every trigger to revert back into those beliefs was now present, yet Darwin never really flinched. He felt the fear and carried on anyway, with more intensity and determination than ever. We can be grateful that not only did he make such great advancements in science, but that he did it at great personal cost to his sense of security, which as mentioned at the beginning, since the advent of patriarchy has been the primary motivation for trying to understand (Jupiter) universal phenomena in the first place. And if Darwin had been a man of beliefs he would have collapsed back into them in his life.

His courage however (Mars) to reject popular belief in the face of such pressure to conform (quincunx) was simply heroic (Jupiter). In fact, by and large Darwin's life was essentially a process of reacting to beliefs as much as possible - in the external world that is - and he became a truly great scientist as a result. It was this approach that allowed him to finally reach his goal and find the unifying truth about biological nature that he so famously did, finally reaching the 9th house PPP and eventually receiving universal recognition for his vast overview and deep understanding of biology and nature (Leo on 9th cusp). This is why Darwin's Jupiter was in Pisces.

blessings Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Sep 09, 2013, 09:56 AM
Hi Upasika,

My god Upasika what a breathtaking understanding of the evolutionary journey of the Soul of Darwin from the distant past, as you brilliantly delineated, to the intermediate past, that then lead to the life of Darwin. The EA reasoning that you employed along the way, the entire journey, is a simply deep as it is utterly accurate.

By supplying the actual historical context of the evolutionary journey for Darwin's Soul that lead to his revolutionary/ evolutionary book that shook the world at that time you have so wonderfully demonstrated the real and total capacity and power of the Evolutionary Astrology brought forth by JWG. This is how it is meant to be done. In so doing you, with the others in our little group now, are literally TEACHING EA to all those that have been and are reading this thread. I know that JWG would thank you from the bottom of his heart and Soul because of this.

My hat is off to you.

BRAVO !!

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Sep 09, 2013, 05:29 PM
Hi Rad,

Thank you very much, I really appreciate that ... somehow I just click with Darwin (and this was also probably one of my better efforts). But I'm very grateful for being able to learn EA via Jeffrey's two books, and without whom Astrology as such would have remained so much the poorer; and then from your simply wonderful expertise and tireless guidance, which to me is an amazing gift you give to all who come here.

I know I've also learnt heaps from the interaction with and exposure to everyone here on the MB - learnings of all kinds from what others post has been so invaluable (and over quite a long time such a variety of approaches has also helped me find my own). As well everyone here has created such a friendly and fertile environment in which to learn, and I'm also very grateful for that - without it I doubt if I'd have stuck with this and learnt much at all. It's such a good feeling being part of such a great community.

blessings Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Gray on Sep 10, 2013, 04:09 AM
Hello group,

I am once again sorry for being so late, as I have once again been experiencing a number of obstacles and difficult personal events.  I wanted to make sure to post something on Darwin's Jupiter, though, so this is all I have been able to come up with so far. I do intend to finish to the end of this thread, and hope to have better timing on our next topic of Saturn.

Darwin was born with a Jupiter in Pisces, a powerfully resonant placement for the Jupiter archetypal meaning in EA connected with interpretation of the phenomenal nature of reality, and the right hemisphere of the brain that is linked to non-linear and image-based thinking.  In the sign of Pisces, Jupiter is in a comfortable home for this intention because of how Pisces archetypally is able to interpret phenomenal reality in a non-linear manner that can go beyond the consensus constraints of the culture one is born into.  In the case of Darwin, this is even more pronounced as he has a Pisces Mercury in a balsamic phase with his Jupiter, as well as a Pisces Pluto his Jupiter is in new phase with.  Moreover, Darwin had a Leo ninth house that is ruled by his Aquarius Sun in his second house- all together giving him the astrological ingredients that would help draw him to objectify, revolutionize, and reformulate the modern worldview concerning creation itself, while theorizing the existence of an evolution within phenomenal reality.

It is further interesting that at the time of his birth, an astrologer would have seen his Jupiter as being in its own rulership in the sign of Pisces, and even more interesting to me that the planet Neptune was discovered in the time period leading up to the publication of his "Origin of Species."  An astrologer at the time of his birth may have drawn great significance to his Sagitarius Saturn rising above the horizon at his time of birth, not knowing that the planet Neptune would also have been located in the same vicinity- in fact Neptune is pretty close to directly on the horizon at his time of birth.  With his Pisces Jupiter ruling his first house, and his Sagitarius Neptune being conjunct Saturn at the end of his twelfth house, in range of a conjunction with his ascendant, Darwin had a loaded Pisces Jupiter in mutual reception with his Sagitarius Neptune. When we integrate the modern Neptune rulership of Pisces used by EA, we end up with a feedback loop occurring in Darwin's chart through delineation between Neptune and Jupiter, in the mutable synthesizing signs of Sagitarius and Pisces.  Could we expect anything less from a man who changed not only the face of science, but the modern worldview as well with his evolutionary theories?

His Pisces Jupiter is the ruler of his ascendant and first house in Sagitarius, so his Jupiter is vital in the way he instinctually presents himself to the world and can be viewed by others.  With his Jupiter in his third house, it goes very well with the sort of obsessive and groundbreaking scientist he not only took on as an identity, but deeply embodied in order to manifest tangible results to support his scientific theories.  His first house also contains the South nodes of Uranus and Mars, both of which are then also ruled by his Pisces Jupiter.  This signifies a deep soul pattern of striking out independently and instinctively on his own in order to investigate and explore nature and natural law, ultimately synthesizing the knowledge from his experiences into his Pisces Jupiter belief system.  However, since these two south nodes are conjunct the asteroid Kassandra, it also points to a mythic storyline that has been repeating for him involving something along the lines of not being believed-  having important information related to survival or ultimate understanding to offer his community, but to have a fate like Kassandra in which he is not actually believed.  Thus, Charles Darwin with his Pisces Jupiter would be determined to prove the validity of his insights and theories by collecting extensive scientific evidence to support his theories.

In connection to his Pisces Jupiter and the manner in which he interprets phenomenal reality, it is imperative to consider how he communicates his understanding through his Pisces Mercury in a balsamic phase with his Pisces Jupiter. For one, in line with a balsamic moon phase, it would at times lead him into depression and dark frames of mind, as he would have the pattern in life of questioning and then clearing out deeply set perspectives and beliefs he had picked up from his family, culture, perhaps even past lives.  This balsamic phase of not only interpreting phenomenal reality but communicating it would lend itself to the formation of a new vision that Darwin would be bringing in to explain to society concerning phenomenal reality.  We can see the significance and importance of this new vision in his chart through the new phase conjunction between Pisces Pluto and Pisces Jupiter.  Because his Pisces Jupiter is connected to the deep soul desires of a Pisces Pluto in a new phase, this new vision would not be entirely clear to him, but he would gain the Virgo-polarity of greater clarity and discernment as he wandered further upon his path.  This goes with how he drifted into religious studies, but ultimately let go of interest in religious studies, and then somehow managed to find a way to travel by sea to observe and collect research in the same exact location as the sea explorer William Dampier before him.  This new phase conjunction of Pluto and Jupiter in Pisces utilizing a balsamic Pisces Mercury is a sign that the most productive path for Darwin will involve questioning and releasing past perceptions and beliefs about phenomenal reality he comes to realize do not align with his sense of the truth from experience, synthesizing his understanding through discernment gained by presence in the moment and attention to detail, in a Virgo manner.  And although he intended to do this through the often linear field of science, because of having a Pisces Mercury, Pluto, and Jupiter, Darwin would be able to come to his realizations in a non-linear manner that was guided by image-based observations of environments and species living within.

In fact, with an Aquarius Sun ruling his ninth house of Leo, this connects to the previously discussed soul intention he had to throw off restrictive and limiting beliefs concerning the nature of phenomenal reality and creation that dominated consensus thought from sources such as religion that imposed a Biblical interpretation of order upon phenomenal reality.  As we have also discussed, his Aquarius Sun is in a balsamic phase with his Capricorn Moon, a further symbol of objectifying and releasing conditioned thought.  With his ninth house ruled by Leo, it is a sign of how Solar and powerful a presence he developed for himself in terms of the Pisces Jupiter theories of belief he developed- still today he is seen as a scientific "sun" in a way in which all sorts of theories continue to revolve around.  His Aquarius Sun being in his second house connects with the fact his belief system was very much focused upon issues of survival and resources.

Since Darwin's Pisces Jupiter is ruled by a Sagitarius Neptune conjunct Saturn, both of which are further ruled by his Pisces Jupiter, it is also important to jump ahead a bit here (since we haven't covered Saturn and Neptune yet on this thread) and integrate Neptune and Saturn into the meaning of his Pisces Jupiter. These rulerships further point to the significance of the structure of Darwin's consciousness being focused upon Natural Law, giving his Aquarius Sun the purpose to use his Pisces Jupiter to interpret phenomenal reality into a theory and belief system that is closer to actual reality than the beliefs of the culturally dominant paradigm surrounding him in society, from influences such as dogmatic religious interpretations of phenomenal reality.  Neptune as the ruler of his Pisces Jupiter is a symbol of how he himself experienced what happens when one follows a certain belief system only to experience disillusionment and a depressive or chaotic state in which ultimately a new pattern of belief will develop that would help him find greater alignment with the truth of his experience- the conjunction of Neptune with Saturn in Sagitarius could be seen as an ultimate strength after experiencing some initial limitations or tests.  With his Pisces Jupiter ruling this Sagitarius conjunction of Neptune-Saturn, he would do this through extensive research and obssessive documentation of scientific results and observations in support of his theory. In the end the movement toward the Virgo polarity point into the ninth house with Leo on the cusp, ruled by an Aquarius Sun-  all of this shows how this detailed focus and discernment of research could ultimately be communicated to the world in a manner that would help throw off past limitations of conditioned thought surrounding the nature of phenomenal reality.

Looking at the South Node of Jupiter, it is in Capricorn and the 1st house, and so ruled by this same Sagitarius Saturn that is conjunct Neptune and also ruled by his Pisces Jupiter, which in turn is ruled by his Sagitarius Neptune, which in turn is ruled by his Pisces Jupiter, and so on . . . again we come back to this feedback loop that Darwin was able to utilized in a powerful manner to propel the research in support of his groundbreaking theories forward.  His Capricorn Moon that is balsamic to his Aquarius Sun is conjunct this South Node of Jupiter, and so again part of the past clearing Darwin was doing in his life in preparation for his new vision had to do with his own past patterns of belief that were highly influenced by conditioning factors of the society in which he lived.  This point is further supported by his Capricorn Moon being in a last quarter sextile to his Pisces Jupiter, as this is an aspect that would give him the opportunity to make the choice to transition from past patterns into a more productive path and purpose.  This last quarter sextile would also make it possible for him to resist this transition, so he would also experience some steps back, in his process of stepping forward. However, I think it is clear from the life of Darwin that he ultimately was able to make choices to place him on a productive path.

A more intense aspect with his Pisces Jupiter is it being in sesquiquadrate to his Scorpio Uranus in his 11th house, as well as his North Node of the Moon in Scorpio.  In contrast to some of the other aspects involving his Pisces Jupiter, this is more of a humbling one that could even humiliate his sense of egotistic pride.  The underlying purpose for the crises that could correspond with this aspect would be to help him ultimately align himself to a greater extent with the needs of the greater social environment.  We have discussed the fact that in past lives, such as the willful sea explorer William Dampier, his Soul could have been more resistant to aligning with the needs of the social environment and more focused on needs of the self.  The most productive path and purpose for Charles Darwin, however, was to modify his natural individualized sense of purpose to better meet the needs of his surrounding environment.  As a result, Darwin created a form for his research, and fit his findings into patterns, theories, and structures that would help liberate consensus thought from crystallized conditioned beliefs that were ultimately very limiting concerning the nature of phenomenal reality.  The sesquiquadrate between his Scorpio Uranus, ruled by his Pisces Pluto, and his Pisces Jupiter corresponds to the intensity of experiences Darwin sufferred through at times and the depths of despair he faced within himself.  The intensity of these experiences, however, were in the end just part of his process of pushing forward with expressing his new vision into society on a grand level.

Finally, working in a couple of significant Goddesses into the mix, Darwin had a Pisces Juno balsamic conjunct his Pisces Jupiter, with a Pisces Ceres conjunct Pluto that is in a balsamic phase with his Pisces Jupiter.  As we have previously discussed in relation to both Darwin's Aries Venus and Libra Mars, the Juno balsamic conjunction with Jupiter in Pisces, in his third house, is another indication that Darwin would desire to have a female partner in life with whom he could discuss his philosophical theories and musings.  It would be important for her to not only have interest in his ideas, but to also have the intellectual capacity to hold space with him to discuss the enormous questions he was asking himself about phenomenal reality.  As we have also discussed, Darwin did manage to find this sort of a partner in his wife.  Pisces Ceres being in a balsamic relationship with Jupiter is a sign to me that his past pattern of obsessively clinging and grasping to his intellectual speculation and research would be something he would be beginning to clear and let go of in his life of Charles Darwin, as part of the new phase vision of the relationship between his Pisces Pluto and Jupiter.  Darwin was still obsessive about his research and productivity, but through forming a family, and facing tragic loss of children in a manner similar to Ceres in myth, at various points Darwin had to let go and re-center himself in his family environment, taking a break from his obsessive intellectual pursuits.

Rad remarked that the phenomenon of conception and abstraction is a Jupiter process, and Charles Darwin was able in the end to use the strong non-linear interpretation of his Pisces Jupiter to conceive a theory that asked and answered extraordinary questions concerning phenomenal reality, and attempted to explain the evolution of life on our planet.

PEACE
Gray
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Sep 10, 2013, 10:43 AM
Hi Gray,

First, thanks for taking the time, amongst the personal issues that you spoke of, to do this segment of the planetary method for the life of Darwin.

Your EA analysis of Darwin's Jupiter, and all of it's other connections in full, is exceptionally sound and of course correct. Your EA reasoning is as accurate as it is impeccable. One of the dynamics that you brought up that very important to understand in the evolutionary progression of Darwin's Soul relative to 'beliefs' versus the actual knowing of any phenomenal reality summarized by you in this statement:

"However, since these two south nodes are conjunct the asteroid Kassandra, it also points to a mythic storyline that has been repeating for him involving something along the lines of not being believed-  having important information related to survival or ultimate understanding to offer his community, but to have a fate like Kassandra in which he is not actually believed.  Thus, Charles Darwin with his Pisces Jupiter would be determined to prove the validity of his insights and theories by collecting extensive scientific evidence to support his theories."

Exactly so.

This is how EA is meant to be done.

Bravo !!

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Sep 10, 2013, 10:48 AM
Hi Ari, Gonzalo, Gray, and Upasika ....

Ok, we will now continue in our next step in the planetary method: Saturn.

Saturn correlates to forms as reflected in the natural law of gravity. Gravity is thus the determinant of form. Form then correlates to functions: the structural nature of form is determined by necessary functions relative to an organized whole. Consciousness, Neptune, that manifests from Pluto, the Soul, that manifests through the form of the humanoid is thus limited by the nature of that form as defined by the inherent functions of that form. From an evolutionary point of view, this then correlates to the limits of any form that requires the changing of form for the evolution of consciousness to proceed.

Saturn correlates to the structural nature of consciousness that the Soul determines from life to life because the specific structural nature of consciousness will then be orientated to "˜reality' is such a way that it then reflects the ongoing evolutionary needs and requirements of the Soul itself. Thus, by house, sign, and aspects to the natal Saturn, the sign on the 10th house cusp, any planets in the 10th with their own aspects to the planets, will all correlate to this structure.

The S.Node of Saturn, which all humans on the planet share during this epic, all correlate to the transition from natural times, the matriarchy, to the patriarchy: S.Node of Saturn being in Capricorn. Individually, the S.Node of Saturn by house, and the aspects to it from other planets, correlate to the prior live structural nature of the consciousness of the Soul that applies to the current life ongoing evolutionary needs and requirements of the Soul.

Saturn correlates the nature of the "˜conditions' that the Soul chooses to be born into that reflect the evolutionary needs of the Soul, and how this conditioning reflects those intentions. The nature of this conditioning reflects the totality of the society or culture, country, and regions with countries that impacts on the Soul in this way.

One of those conditionings is reflected in the fact that humans live together as structured groups: societies, tribes, countries and, as such, correlates to the social role that all humans have on behalf of that society: thus the role of that Soul choses in any given life that reflects its evolutionary needs and intentions. That role on behalf of society, and on behalf of the individual context of each Soul, correlates to the work or 'career' that the Soul uses relative to facilitating in ongoing evolutionary needs. 

This then correlates to the formation of goals or ambitions of the Soul relative to it's individual station within the context of the whole of the group, and the means necessary to actualize those goals and ambitions. Each country or society has it's own socially accepted norms and customs that the consensus of the society our country has established that then correlates to whatever means must be used, as prescribed by society, to actualize the individual goals and ambitions reflected in the choices that the Soul makes for itself: it's career, work, or role within the context of the country or society of birth.

In turn this then correlates to the interfacing between the role of authority, as defined by society, parents, and the authority of the soul itself, and how the Soul responds or reacts to these external authorities.

Because Saturn correlates to the nature of laws, customs, norms and taboos that any group of people create in order to live together as an organized whole that then become the basis of judgments made by the individual or the group:  or judgments made by the individual within itself. The issue then becomes one wherein are the judgments being made are a function of made beliefs with all the attending moralities, ethics, rights and wrongs, etc, or judgments that emanate from natural laws? Judgments are necessary and a part of natural consciousness in human form. It is one of the natural ways that correlate to self-knowledge, and knowledge upon the nature of anything.

Saturn correlates with the very nature of time itself. Time is nothing more than that motion itself where motion equals time. One of the functions of time, motion, is aging. This natural aging as defined by motion, time, naturally leads to crystallization wherein the nature of whatever forms exist no longer reflect the evolutionary imperatives of the whole, or the individual. This then leads to the necessity of change, of evolving new forms and structures. As a natural function of time leading to necessary evolutionary change the consciousness of the Soul in human form creates reflection. Reflection is thus natural to consciousness for it leads the awareness of what needs to change in order for evolution to proceed: of that which is crystallized. Reflection also allows consciousness to learn through the vehicle of hindsight. Because reflection infers the evolutionary necessity to change in order to evolve this then directly correlates to a consciousness feeling limited or blocked by the very nature of it's existing conditions, within itself, and external to itself, which can then lead to depression within the consciousness of the Soul. This is intentional from the point of view of Natural Laws, the laws set in motion by the Creator of All Things, in order for the Soul to make the changes necessary for it's evolution to proceed.

Saturn also correlates to gender assignment as either defined by the nature of the culture, society, or tribe of birth and/or natural laws. Thus gender conditioning either through artificial conditioning as a reflection of norms, customs, and taboos that are made by men as a  function of beliefs versus conditioning relative to natural laws: natural male or female.

With all of this in mind let's now create an EA analysis of the structural nature of the Soul consciousness of Darwin, and how that structural nature symbolizes his ongoing evolutionary development and needs: desires.

If you have any questions please ask them of me now.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Sep 15, 2013, 01:01 PM
Hi Rad, will you clarify some more what you meant here? The linkage between motion and time:

QuoteTime is nothing more than that motion itself where motion equals time. One of the functions of time, motion, is aging.
Thank you.
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Sep 16, 2013, 09:21 AM
Quote from: ari moshe on Sep 15, 2013, 01:01 PM
Hi Rad, will you clarify some more what you meant here? The linkage between motion and time:

QuoteTime is nothing more than that motion itself where motion equals time. One of the functions of time, motion, is aging.
Thank you.


Hi Ari,

If we have a starting point, and then an ending point, we have motion between those two points where motion is a function of velocity. Velocity within motion, no matter what the rate of that velocity is, creates time: the time it takes to get from point A to point B. Motion is also the determinant of gravity when combined with mass: Saturn. Thus, the center of gravity within consciousness where consciousness is then defined by the nature of the form, Saturn, that is within. Form correlates then with boundaries that correlate within consciousness to the natural boundary between conscious awareness that is determined by the egocentric structure within consciousness that is created by the Soul is any given life. The totality of consciousness of the Soul includes the subconscious or unconsciousness that is created by this natural boundary of Saturn between the egocentric awareness that is symbolized by the Moon, the natural polarity to Saturn, and the sub-conscious or unconsciousness of the Soul.

In our next step, the final steps, to our planetary method with will of course be focusing on Uranus and Neptune that symbolize this sub-conscious and unconsciousness of the Soul and how this affects the egocentric structure of the Soul's consciousness.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: ari moshe on Sep 17, 2013, 11:33 PM
Hi Rad, thanks for your response and all the wisdom that is being shared here.
Just want to fill you in - I'll be posting here b4 the end of this week and am setting for myself to post in the other thread by the end of the following week.
Love, am
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Sep 22, 2013, 12:11 AM
Darwin's Saturn.
Thank you for this ongoing opportunity for such lucid learning and growth Rad.
Love, am

Darwin's Saturn is in Sag in the 12th, in a balsamic conjunction with Neptune ruled by Jupiter which shares a mutual reception with Neptune. Saturn is also conjunct the AC, in a first quarter square with Mercury and a disseminating square with Pluto. Lucifer in Virgo in the 9th is in a last quarter square with Saturn. Saturn is first quarter trine with Venus in Aries on the IC.

Saturn is semi square the sn of Pluto in Cap in the 2nd. The Moon in Cap in the 2nd is in a crescent phase with Saturn - just at the very end of a semi square aspect.

The Moon is conjunct the sn of Pluto as well as the sn of Saturn in Cap in the 2nd which is joined by the sn's of Vesta, Venus and Mercury all in the same position. Saturn rules it's own sn.
The nn of Saturn is in Cancer in the 8th which is ruled by the Moon in Cap in the 2nd which brings us back to Saturn.

Saturn is in an exact sesquiquad with it's nn in Cancer in the 8th.
Mars in Libra in the 10th squares the nodal axis of Saturn in the 2nd and 8th.

The structure of this soul's consciousness has been oriented to understand the inherent principals of natural law that apply universally. This soul has been developing an understanding that explains how the totality of nature is conditioned to be in the form it is in; and how that form will ever change to reflect natural and universal principals.

Saturn symbolizes how the conditioning of the past becomes a gravity, a bottom line structural reality, for the consciousness of the soul in the present. With Saturn squaring the 9th 3rd house axis, and ultimately linked to a mutual rulership between Neptune and Jupiter, it's clear that this conditioning has been formed in part through extensive research/traveling/exposure to the diversity of life. This soul has formulated questions that have been oriented around understanding the bottom line why behind the nature of phenomenal existence (Jupiter Pluto Pisces 3rd). The soul has needed to establish philosophical security, to clearly define the nature of this existence by understanding the actual parameters/boundaries/rules of natural law. This then has allowed this soul to understand the nature of itself within the context of all of nature. The question then becomes, why did he need to establish such a clearly defined understanding?

In the past there has been great amount of inner need within this soul to have proof, Saturn, of all the kinds of beliefs and dogmas - many of which that have been held in the religious traditions of the masses. There would have been potent interfaces between this soul and with religious leaders/authorities that represented the religious rules of "right and wrong". In prior lives this soul has given itself quite fully to these religious rules and external authorities on the basis of wanting to do the right thing and align with what is true and ultimate. The balsamic to Neptune implies that there has already been a great degree of disillusionment regarding this, and that the life of Darwin was intended for this soul to release all kinds of strict, religious, dogmatic thinking that does not directly point to the direct knowledge of how nature is actually structured. In the context of his ea stage - this is of course ultimately building a comprehensive understanding of the mechanics that define and articulate how nature operates.

The progression within the soul of Darwin, as I understand it here, at some point seems to go back to religious and perhaps monastic/secluded Christian communities - Saturn in Sag in 12th with its sn in the 2nd in Cap, Pisces Virgo squares to Saturn, Lucifer in the 9th. In these communities there was a great deal of idealization and also disillusionment by way of various authorities becoming a contradiction to the law that they taught/idealized. The nature of these contradictions, in part, would have something to do with sexuality, sexual morality and beliefs regarding procreation that were antithetical to what was actually natural: sn of Saturn in 2nd in Cap relative to Saturn Neptune in Sag in the 12th. These teachers have not only been in contradiction to their teachings, but also hypocritical and flat out unethical. The main theme here would be various religious figures symbolizing an absolute connection to God, the universal truth. And through that symbology implying that there is only one way to God. This has created all kinds of confusion and emotional distortions within this soul.

This disillusionment then lead to it seems a long process of deconditioning; of working through the contradictions and even going to the extreme of rebelling against all of the repressed sexual and emotional urges. By the life of Darwin all of that had been exhausted to the point where he was able to come to his own conclusions, which in a sense brought an end to a very long chapter of seeking.

I want to speak a bit more to the archetype of the unknown and religious authority for this soul.
On the one hand, this Saturn position correlates to Darwin's soul intention to reconcile with the ultimate fear of the unknown. The fear of the unknown links to a fear of being alienated from, a part from nature, which itself links to a strong karmic Judeo/Christian belief in separation from source - and thus a set of moral and ethical standards that reflect those beliefs. These moral standards have always represented ideals that are not possible to embrace. As mentioned above, in some way there would have been prior lives, or a life, where this soul was involved in secluded, strict, religious monastic type of environments. In this past, he would have been completely immersed in a version of the truth that was not actually accessible/ was in contradiction to his own nature. He would have tackled the challenge of reconciling these ideas with scripture, through immersing himself in other people's spiritual and religious ideas, through long dialogues, all the intense 3rd 9th correlations in his chart. This at times would have resulted in crystal clarity as to the truth of whatever he was trying to convince himself to be true. Yet at times the clarity would not be there and he would be left with too many questions to be at peace with himself. On some level there also would have been some form of masochistic punishment involved as a result of this soul feeling plagued by his doubt. Lucifer in Virgo retro in the 9th squaring Saturn in Sag in the 12th.

So in establishing the rules and principals that he did during the life of Darwin he was able to find a form of forgiveness and relaxation in the sense of concluding for himself that the authority actually correlates to natural principals that are inherent to life, not some judging god.

On the other hand there was still a great amount of anxiety that could never actually be resolved during the life of Darwin. This anxiety is rooted in the reality that this soul would never be capable of achieving, via the faculties of his own mind, a full understanding of reality. There will always be questions. The mutable T squares in his chart point to the psychology of hopelessness and meaninglessness that has plagued the soul. Essentially that there will always be questions that cannot be answered - until the center of gravity within the soul shifts from identification with form/mind to identification with formless. Therefore even the rules he established as true did not provide ultimate philosophical security for this soul. In fact, as a necessary survival mechanism for himself, the natural principals that he established, by their very nature, easily opened the doors for the proof of life being void of any kind of higher meaning; no God, just natural principals of evolution. I understand that he identified mostly as an agnostic. He was open to the idea of God, just became increasingly less concerned with trying to address the question of God or to prove it one way or another. It's interesting to note how in many conservative religious communities around the world today the cosmology of Darwin is considered antithetical to Christian faith.

Here is an article that discusses whether or not Darwin believed in God. I am posting this here while we are on Saturn because it's clear that a part of Darwin's public presentation on God was likely influenced by the social/political climate of the time. To be publishing the work that he did, it's possible that he included sections on God because his own social esteem and success depended on it. This is signified by his natal Saturn in Sag in the 12th relative to the Mars in Libra in the 10th square to the nodes of Saturn with the sn of Saturn in Cap in the 2nd which I will address next"¦

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/09/did_darwin_believe_in_god.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/09/did_darwin_believe_in_god.html)
Here is a paragraph from that article that paraphrases something that Darwin expresses in Origin of the Species:

QuoteSome will argue, however, and rightly so, that Darwin did still believe in God when he wrote Origin of Species in 1859.  Though denying that God had a direct hand in creating species, he did nonetheless indicate that God created the natural laws of the cosmos, including the laws of evolutionary development.  He also interpolated a statement about a Creator breathing life into one or a few (primitive) organisms into the 1860 edition of Origin.

It's also possible (perhaps even in addition to what I stated above) that his words were expressedly true to this soul; that he had an intuitive sense of there being a creator that created the natural laws of evolution and that this creator IS NOT the Christian God of the bible. Rad do you have any insight/clarification regarding whether what he wrote was actually true to him or not?

As a bottom line context for this soul, with the sn of Saturn in Cap in the 2nd, squaring Mars in Libra in the 10th and ruled by Saturn in Sag in the 12th, he has had roles within society in the past that has allowed this soul to actualize his own authority within society, and on some level to influence the masses with the principals that he himself believed in. The energy of this of course points to a soul that has been incredibly stubborn about how its going about doing things; it's own inner compass of right and wrong. However based on the need to fulfill his social roles and duties, he has learned how to follow the
rules in order to fit into prevailing social constructs and to thus limit his own need for independence and total authority over his own life.

This has then lead to a great amount of repression and a rift between his inner world, personal life and the way in which he expressed himself/behaved in the outer world. Leading to the life of Darwin the soul has reached a station wherein it has become necessary to conserve his resources - to limit his own self expansion, unlimited freedom and create a secure, safe emotional environment; the need within this soul to establish emotional boundaries; to establish firm family roots that would allow this soul to heal and open up all that had been repressed and unintegrated emotionally.  Sn of Saturn conj Moon, Moon ruler of nn of Saturn in the 8th, Moon new crescent phase with Saturn.

A bit more on Mars in the 10th squaring the nodes of Saturn. This strongly relates to a concern with how he is regarded socially; how others will accept him or approve of him socially linked to the need to make a living and support his family. This links to Dampier's Saturn squaring the nodes with the sn in Libra relative to Pluto in the 7th. Dampier also had Mars in Libra in the 10th squaring the nodes of Saturn just as Darwin did. The intention has been for this soul to access the emotional realm instead of focusing entirely on his social persona, fitting in, in order to survive. The repression this soul enacted essentially created an iron wall that kept him safe from deeper intimacy. He developed a duplicity in his social skills that allowed him to function in the social world as he needed to, saying what he needed to all the while keeping his real self inside. In fearing to access his own anima, he perpetuated his own loneliness.

In the life of Dampier, as signified by Saturn in Cancer in the 8th squaring the nodes - applied to the nn in Aries in the 5th with it's ruler Mars in Libra in the 10th squaring that Saturn as well as the Sun in cancer in the 7th, the strong theme leading to that life seems to relate to correcting violations of natural ethics regarding sexuality/sexual responsibility towards women. These "violations" have been linked to his own repressed emotional/sexual needs which itself links back to his own Christian guilt: Virgo Moon ruling Saturn, Chiron in Virgo in the 9th squaring Neptune in Sag in the 1st, Jupiter ruling Neptune in the 12th in Sag.

The nn of Darwin's Saturn is in Cancer in the 8th and forms a gibbous phase sesquiquadrate with Saturn, noting that Saturn also forms a crescent phase semi square with the Moon, the ruler of the nn in Cancer. This implies, as stated above, the evolutionary intention to focus within and establish emotional boundaries that will allow the soul to heal and be nourished on the intimate human level. The reality of having neglected his emotional needs reached a total head in the life of Dampier, and in the life of Darwin he began to integrate and steady his emotional nature. This also implies the intention to simply take it easy as he uncovers the layer upon layer of emotional repression that has hid under his strong belief systems.

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This Saturn signature has corresponded to following his own inner compass, inner guidance system from a state of consciousness of not wanting to be limited, Saturn, by anything outside of himself - sn of Saturn in 2nd, sn of Jupiter in 1st all in Cap. This has then correlated to a need to maintain his own authority at all costs in order to protect himself from the unknown and to purge from himself the self anger and pain of having been completely let down by the religious authorities/god.

This need for total freedom from authority has itself been born only from a total fear of being limited by something much larger than himself. Consciously he has understood this as religion and the religious authorities, and by extension the social and moral codes of his time - he has wanted to live "off the grid" of mainstream thought, dogma and rules. Unconsciously however it has been the need to be free in order to seek his own answers; such seeking which would create a sense of control and thus safety in virtue of the principal that seeking always leads to finding. The nature of what he would find would become the basis of his own cosmology which would then serve to replace the guilt and anxiety of having violated religious law. The ongoing analogy of being out in the ocean, going to unknown places, has in part been a way for this soul to stay open to the unfolding revelation of the truth - instead of drowning in a fixed and established version of it.

Another way of saying this, he has needed to find meaning in something to believe in, and without that something to believe in there is a lingering feeling of being wrong, of being bad. His cosmology serves as a set of principles that would ultimately allow him to reconcile with his own nature, instead of feeling guilty about it (repressing it or indulging).

One final thought: throughout this soul's journey, this soul has totally internalized whatever truths he was choosing to identify with - becoming stubbornly fixed and self righteous about whatever he believed to be true. Sn in Taurus in the 5th full phase inconjunct with Saturn Neptune, Venus in Aries - ruler of sn - in a first quarter trine with Saturn. This created a strong attraction factor because of his sureness and confidence. Even though the nature of this soul has been to be open in the mind and to be very full of questions, it has always taken a long time for this soul to move from its position - to realize that his open mind is still narrow and fixed on a limited view of reality.

The tension in those signatures correlate to the need for Darwin to figure out how to actualize his special purpose in the world in a way that it can be accepted and acknowledged as credible by the world as it currently is. The full phase inconjunct with all the strong implications for talent, confidence and intellectual genius implies the need to let go of the way he would do it and to surrender to how it needs to be done. This he in fact did quite well. This signature also correlates to his over confidence in a typical 12th house 5th house kind of way - perhaps he saw himself as some sort of savior of the ignorance of the masses. Of course in truth he was playing a very healing role for the masses on many levels. Note that on the other end of that aspect, Saturn Neptune are new phase semi sextile to the north node in Scorpio in the 11th, with Pluto in the 3rd ruling the nn squaring Saturn: using his higher intellect and sharp mind to create ultimate meaning - the limitations of which being that it implies an mis-identification with human intelligence as the be all and end all.

It's meaningful to point out that his father represented a similar outlook as Darwin in terms of the bible. His father was a very successful physician and knew how to expand his fortune. When Darwin's mother died, his father become even more devoted to his work as a physician, which included frequent travel, leaving the care of the household mostly to his eldest daughters. This has been discussed a bit when we were examining Darwin's Moon. Here's a little section on his father:
On his father: http://www.darwincountry.org/explore/001557.html (http://www.darwincountry.org/explore/001557.html)

His father became a symbol for someone successful and great, but was also on his own cloud, not always present and involved in the family as much as he was invested in his work. This seems to be a metaphor for Darwin's own inner relationship to the concept of "ultimate authority" - it was often impersonal and inconsistent, leaving him to figure things out for himself given the lack of any clear guidance from the outside. His father also seemed to carry the energy of confidence and sureness about his beliefs - as well as a man who lived by his principals.

QuoteCharles wrote of his father: "My father's mind was not scientific, and he did not try to generalise his knowledge under general laws; yet he formed a theory for almost everything which occurred. I do not think I gained much from him intellectually; but his example ought to have been of much moral service to all his children. One of his golden rules (a hard one to follow) was, "˜Never become the friend of anyone whom you cannot respect."
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Post by: ari moshe on Sep 24, 2013, 08:24 PM
Hi Rad, just wanted to let you know I reviewed my last post and made a couple small edits. The changes were just to fix a couple inaccuracies/exaggerations on my part - nothing of the core content was changed in case you already read through it.
Love, am
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Post by: Rad on Sep 25, 2013, 11:01 AM
Hi Ari,

First, thanks for taking the time to do the work you have on this segment of our planetary method of chart interpretation. All of your EA reasoning for the various dynamics of the structural nature of the consciousness of Darwin are extremely sound, as well as correct.

You asked:

Quote
Some will argue, however, and rightly so, that Darwin did still believe in God when he wrote Origin of Species in 1859.  Though denying that God had a direct hand in creating species, he did nonetheless indicate that God created the natural laws of the cosmos, including the laws of evolutionary development.  He also interpolated a statement about a Creator breathing life into one or a few (primitive) organisms into the 1860 edition of Origin.

It's also possible (perhaps even in addition to what I stated above) that his words were expressedly true to this soul; that he had an intuitive sense of there being a creator that created the natural laws of evolution and that this creator IS NOT the Christian God of the bible. Rad do you have any insight/clarification regarding whether what he wrote was actually true to him or not?

Yes. This is the actual reality for him. He pioneered what is now called natural science which of course is rooted in correlation and observation versus theory or hypothesis. We can see this relative to his Uranus being in Scorpio in the 11th, correlation and observation, trine his Pluto, etc, in Pisces in the 3rd which is then square his Saturn/Neptune: the phenomenal world. Thus, as you rightly said, the hypothesized God of the Christian Bible he rebelled and rejected because of this. Yet, at the same time, he pondered and considered that, of course, the phenomenal world was created by 'something'. That something of course is what we could call the natural God.

One thing I would add about the structural nature of his consciousness, which of course includes the necessary ego within it, is that his Soul was also invested in needing to be first, a pioneer, of the understanding that he came too and presented to the world: S.Node in Taurus in the 5th, Venus ruler in Aries in the 3rd, ruled by that Mars in Libra in the 10th. This is why he felt threatened by the simultaneous work of Wallace whom he wrote letters too, the stacked 3rd house, impressing on Wallace of all the years he had dedicated to his work on the 'Origin of the Species'. In other word, he needed, desired, to be first. It was integral to the structural nature of his consciousness.


Your EA work here is just brilliant work Ari. You, with the others, are truly helping those that have come to read this thread understand and learn EA. This is how it is meant to be done.

Bravo !!

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Upasika on Oct 06, 2013, 11:29 PM
Hi Rad,

I have had an unexpected large increase in my work load last week and now it's been extended into this week too, and I just haven't had a single chance to start anything at all yet. Everything has been pushed back, so now I'm aiming at getting started on things next weekend and posting as soon after that as I can. This will be my first priority, then the medical post (but please don't wait for me on that thread, I could really be quite a while getting to that). Sorry for the delay, I know it's taking a long time.

thanks Upasika
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Post by: Rad on Oct 07, 2013, 09:44 AM
Hi Gonzalo,

First, thanks for taking the time to do the EA work you have on this next step in our planetary method: Saturn.

In reading through, several times, what you have presented I realized that you have in fact written what was going on within the structural nature of the consciousness of Darwin. I realized this by remembering what I wrote on Saturn for us here: that you essentially went through each of those paragraphs and answered them accordingly in what you have written.

And what you have written by way of all the various dynamics that formed the whole of the structural nature of Darwin's consciousness in essentially correct with some exceptions that are reflected in the questions you have asked me: below. The only 'problem' in what you have written that I had at first, as perhaps others who will read what you have written, is that it presented from the point of view of the structural nature of Darwin's consciousness. In other words you have captured all the inner dynamics that were indeed operating within his consciousness without referencing those dynamics to the structural nature of his consciousness as such.

You stated:

"It would have felt like lost somewhere undefined not knowing which way to go, and creating all types of non-linear or irrational experiences the individual has struggled to repress in order to maintain a sense of normalcy and stability of all of its constructions, translating into series of aberrational fears, phobias, obsessions, chronic muscular tension originating in the conflict between the desire to relax and the desire to control (ie. a conflict between pineal and pituitary), allergies and immune system disorders. Also, hemorrhoids because of alternating between relaxing and contracting the anal sphincter. With Uranus Scorpio conjunct the North Node, there could be some intense level of kundalini activity, coming from prior lifetimes, based on desires to "˜transcend' and liberate of boundaries and limitations, and a simultaneous need to repress such energy, which would be another contributing factor to confusional states, depersonalization, out of body experiences, extreme levels of stress, and the overall medical condition of Darwin. (Rad, please confirm if this is correct or not)."

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All of this is correct with the exception of the link to kundalini. All of what you have written is rooted in unresolved traumas from many prior lives of the Soul of Darwin which were repeated in various ways in the actual life of Darwin.

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Prior to this I wonder that the Saturn 12th House Sagittarius, relative to Pluto Pisces and all the mutable symbols, all reflect this Soul coming from some other planet that would be quite different as compared with Earth. It also reflects the potential impact of early mal-adaptation to human form when coming from other types of consciousness that were more united or were inseparable from Nature because of being less dualistic. Thus, I wonder whether all daemon souls on Earth came to this planet already within human form, or if some came in other forms that then evolved to human form-such as animals like wolves and dogs, but also as Nature spirits as elves, dwarves and fairies. Rad, if possible, could you please confirm or correct these speculations? "¦..

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Daemon Souls that come to this planet are already evolved to the point that they do not need to manifest in other forms, non-human, in order to evolve into human form. Yet such Souls can and do indeed manifest in other forms for reasons that are unique to each of these types of Souls.

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You have captured many of the operation dynamics within the total structural nature of the consciousness of Darwin Gonzalo, and now those dynamics interacted within/ among themselves to create the 'reality' of Darwin. There are other dynamics that you did not capture but I am sure that this is because of your life and what you have/ are needing to do right now. For example, are core dynamic that you missed was the fact that Darwin desired, needed, to be 'first' relative to the realizations and understandings that he came too that all went into his book. Thus, a competitiveness that was an underlying yet defining dynamic for the whole of his consciousness.

Excellent EA work Gonzalo. Bravo !!

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Rad on Oct 08, 2013, 07:27 AM
Hi Gonzalo,

Quote from: Gonzalo on Oct 07, 2013, 10:59 AM
Hi Rad,
Thanks so much for the feedback, and the answers. Yes, I based what I wrote in the introduction you made about the Saturn archetype ...

I'm not sure to understand correctly one indication you gave, which is enigmatic to me ...

QuoteThe only 'problem' in what you have written that I had at first, as perhaps others who will read what you have written, is that it presented from the point of view of the structural nature of Darwin's consciousness. In other words you have captured all the inner dynamics that were indeed operating within his consciousness without referencing those dynamics to the structural nature of his consciousness as such.

My intuition is that what I wrote is like considering the structure of consciousness as external to consciousness, instead of realizing that the structure of the consciousness, its energy, is created by consciousness, and is consciousness itself .. ie. that consciousness is not inside, or trapped within  the structure, but is also in the structure ...  is it about this?

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Yes, in a way because the consciousness within the Soul is the determinant, relative to desires, of all that it creates including the very structural nature of it's conscious awareness in each life. And that the structural nature of is consciousness, it's sense of reality that is caused by that structure, is a function of all kinds of INNER DYNAMICS that have been set in motion over many, many lifetimes that all combine, in any given life, to create that structural awareness within consciousness of the Soul. The motion of all those inner dynamics then creates a gravity point within that consciousness wherein all of the dynamics can correlate to a 'mass' that is in motion, evolution, so that the structural nature of it's consciousness, reality, evolves as those dynamics change over time. So, to me, what you wrote in very accurate relative to the dynamics that you identified but it's this understanding of how the actual structural nature of Darwin's consciousness came to be what it is that I found lacking. But that is just my reading of what you presented. Others very well may see exactly what I don't see.


God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Upasika on Oct 20, 2013, 04:20 PM
Hi Rad,

Just a quick note - I have an unexpected ongoing emergency to help someone with, plus starting a new job, and a pile up of pre-Mercury retrograde "items" (eg taxes) to process, so I still haven't been able to get pen to paper yet. All this week, the weekend and next week are all earmarked to deal with these things and I won't be able to start until the following weekend (2nd/3rd). I'm sorry to delay so badly again, and thank you for your patience.

On another note I just want to thank you for the powerful blessing and deep wishes you gave me a while ago now ... for my heath to recover to the maximum extent possible. Of course there were many factors at play, but I know for a certainty that was a potent force that played a unique role in my recovery - which, although it's early days yet, seems to be a very good one - what I had dreamed of attaining but was so far away from that I couldn't ever imagine it. I'm back to 90% full functioning, and the remaining improvement would just seem to be a matter of care & time now. Your blessing helped to imagine this and seeded a deep hope that maybe I could be healed.

And that hope percolated away and eventually led to me trying a very, very expensive physical healer (with a great reputation for results) who I had known about all along but resisted seeing for 5 years because I never had the huge amounts of money his treatment materials required, but this time I decided to get a (really expensive) loan and just do it. And this paid off - this man and his partner have done what all the other doctors couldn't do, so thank you!

blessings Upasika
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Post by: Rad on Oct 21, 2013, 10:27 AM
Hi Upasika,

Just simply wonderful news about your body and Soul recovering your health. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Gray on Oct 22, 2013, 09:02 PM
Rad,

I do want to let you know that I am hoping to have something posted on Saturn by the end of this week. In case you feel like you need to move on, I also understand as it has taken me so long to post.

Upasika, I am also happy to hear hopeful news regarding your health.

Happy Mercury retrograde!
Gray
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Post by: Rad on Oct 23, 2013, 10:57 AM
Hi Gray,

As long as you still desire to post on this Planetary Thread we will just keep doing so no matter how long it takes you, Gonzalo, Ari, and Upasika to post on any given segment. The incredible quality of the EA work all of you are doing, and those that had been posting before they dropped out, is simply exceptional work that allows all those who have come to read this thread learn EA in the way it is meant to be done. So much so that we are contemplating turning this thread on the Planetary Method, when finished, into an actual book so that it can have an even larger distribution than it does now.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Gray on Oct 30, 2013, 02:26 AM
Thank you so much for your positive feedback, Rad- I am very grateful to have the opportunity to receive feedback from you on this thread.  I want to make a good post about Darwin's Saturn, so unfortunately I am going to need some more time as a lot has been happening and I have not managed to focus sufficiently on writing this post yet.  I will have a post finished as soon as I can manage it.  Thank you so much for your patience and time spent nurturing our understanding.

Happy Halloween everyone!
Gray
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Post by: Rad on Nov 06, 2013, 07:37 AM
Hi Gonzalo,

Ok, sounds good.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Gray on Nov 10, 2013, 09:34 PM
Dear Rad and Group,

I wanted to make sure I get something posted so we can move on- I don't think this is a comprehensive analysis of Darwin's Saturn but the best I can manage at this time.  Thank you again for all of the deep work everyone is doing, I started taking a look at what Ari and Gonzalo wrote and look forward to reading it in more depth as both posts looked to be insightful . . .

Quote"Evolution, of course, was in Darwin's day a shattering and heretical challenge to the simplistic, literalistic biblical view.  First, the theory of evolution holds that the world is much, much older than the Bible says.  Second, humans, animals, plants, bacteria, and all other creatures are a single continuum of life.  Humans are not something set apart.  We are animals, and we emerged from the same natural processes by which other life-forms evolved . . .  Evolution restored dynamism to the universe, brought it alive as a growing, changing, interacting web of relationships . . .

Darwin himself was a great observer, embodying the permacultural principle of "thoughtful and protracted observation" more than a century before permaculture was formulated.  He looked at the plants and animals and birds around him in the far-flung places of the world he traveled, and he let himself ask, "I wonder . . .":  "I wonder how that tortoise got to be the way it is, how differences between those similar plants arose, what forces produced the beak on that bird."  He theorized that environmental pressures and constraints select the individuals most fitted to a given environment from a range of genetic variations . . . His theory of evolution and natural selection was a brilliant example of relational thinking, focusing not just on individuals or species as separate, isolated elements, but on the whole pattern of interactions, exchanges, and effects of living communities as a whole."
--Starhawk, The Earth Path, p. 42

With a Sagitarius Saturn, Charles Darwin had the evolutionary soul need to structure a scientific philosophy examining the meaning of life, integrating knowledge he gained from direct experience of life, including traveling over great distances to gain this knowledge.  Rising above the horizon at the time of his birth, Darwin's Sagitarius Saturn is at the end of the 12th House and conjunct his Sagitarius Ascendant as well as balsamic conjunct his Neptune.  His Saturn is ruled by a Pisces Jupiter in the third house- in the context of his soul signature of a Pisces Pluto in the third house balsamic conjunct a Pisces Mercury and Ceres, the aspects of Darwin's Sagitarius Saturn reveal the prominent role his Saturn played in his ability to create and structure from his own collection of data a scientific theory explaining how life could have developed across time on planet Earth.  Darwin's Sagitarius Saturn was involved in a balsamic clearing of past conditioned beliefs that helped him cut through the Neptunian illusions of consensus religious thought, a structuring of his consciousness that helped him to liberate from projected consensus beliefs in order to reveal specific aspects of religious conditioning that were not in alignment with the actual reality of the Nature of Creation.  Born at a time in which humans were rapidly developing scientific theories in academic communities, Darwin focused his Saturn ambitions on gaining the status role of a scientific observer, investigator, and intellectual trailblazer of groundbreaking work to help humanity liberate themselves from crystallized beliefs systems stuck in religious conditioning. The mutable nature of Darwin's Sagitarius Saturn, plus the mutable nature of his significant planets in Pisces, reflected the evolutionary needs of his soul to shatter his own crystallized conditioning and grow beyond.

As we have already discussed, Darwin had a very significant Pisces Mercury in his 3rd House that is conjunct the North Node of his Mercury as well as his natal Pluto and Ceres- this Mercury is in a first quarter square to Sagitarius Saturn in 12th, a Mercury that is then ruled by his Sagitarius Neptune in his 12th that is balsamic conjunct Saturn.  Since Darwin's Saturn-Neptune conjunction is then ruled by his Pisces Jupiter in his third house, all together these symbols show how Darwin utilized an empircal method of research to create a rational and scientific argument revealing aspects of the actual reality of Nature.  As already discussed, part of Darwin's soul desire to do this was connected with liberating people from becoming conditioned by consensus religious beliefs that were more of a projection upon the Nature of Creation than an uncovering of its actual reality.  His soul is reflected by the first quarter square between his Pisces Mercury and Sagitarius Saturn because for his own evolution to proceed required him to take the responsibility to push past limitations of consensus thought in pursuit of knowledge to support his intellectual theories organizing his direct observations of Nature.  However, as his Saturn in Sagitarius is about ten degrees away from an exact last quarter square to his Pisces Pluto, this was a difficult endeavor for him that could approach the level of a "crisis of consciousness" associated with the last quarter square aspect.  Ultimately, however, his soul refused to be bound by his father's attempts to persuade him into becoming part of the religious clergy, or the consensus conditioning that he should follow in his father's footsteps as a medical doctor.  Yet these exact conditions placed upon himself by being born when and where and to whom he was born are also part of his evolutionary soul needs reflected by his Saturn- his father and grandfather were both free-thinkers, and his father paid for him to receive not only a strong academic education from prestigious schools of learning but even helped finance Darwin's voyages around the world as a scientific observer and researcher.

Darwin's Aries Venus is in a first quarter trine to his Sagitarius Saturn at the end of his third house conjunct his IC.  His Aries Venus is also the ruler of his 5th House South Node of the Moon in Taurus that is inconjunct his Sagitarius Saturn- these symbols go with his past soul desire of fulfilling a special destiny in which he held a prominent role initiating something or being seen as the leader or pioneer of a dynamic movement of some sort.  The trine between his Aries Venus and his Sagitarius Saturn shows how it was easy for him to fall back into this desire, as reflected by his overly competitive intellectual nature and his willingness and capacity to secure authorship for himself of a paradigm shifting scientific theory grounded in substantial empirical evidence and support.  His Aries Venus is also the ruler of his Libra MC and 10th House, a house in which a Libra Mars resides that is in square to the nodal axis of Darwin's Saturn.  This again is a sign of his need to be at the top of his profession and his ability to gain the resources and support needed to not only research and develop a dynamic scientific theory but to also gain access to the research materials, equipment, resources, and resulting evidence needed to substantially support such a theory with clear empirical backing.  Aries Venus ruling his 10th House and his Libra Mars being in square to the nodal axis of his Saturn also shows how Darwin had a drive underlying the mutable construction of his mental structure to push himself forward past obstacles toward the path of personal growth.

The Saturn of Charles Darwin was vital to his moment-to-moment daily processing of his life as it is the ruler of his Capricorn Moon.  Moreover, Darwin's Capricorn Moon was one of the biggest influences on his Saturn's evolutionary growth, as it is intimately involved with both the south and north nodes of Saturn in his chart.  The South Node of his Saturn is in Capricorn and conjunct his Capricorn Moon, and the North Node of his Saturn is in Cancer and is ruled by his Capricorn Moon.  The times of intense depression Darwin went through in his emotional life in the end helped his Saturnian re-structuring of his consciousness to evolve beyond the crystallized beliefs and other conditioning leading to his suffering.  He experienced many intense tragedies from the early death of his mother to the early death of children, all of which made him confront on an inner level deep questions about life and death and divinity.  As we have discussed, the south node of his Saturn in Capricorn is a symbol shared by all other souls at the time of his incarnation, rooted in the impact on collective consciousness caused by the transition from more natural and matriarchal times to the patriarchal era leading to increased separation between humans and the natural world both in behavior and beliefs.  Although Darwin's theories in many ways ultimately were used by others to increase the separation of humans from nature, such as in the survival of the fittest becoming a philosophical rationalization for destructively selfish action taken by corporations, at the heart of his theory is actually the concept that humans are just one interdependent part embedded in a web of diverse natural relationships in our universe.

The South Node of Darwin's Saturn being conjunct his Capricorn Moon meant that his unexplained illnesses that plagued him could have been linked to chronic emotional fatigue and stress caused in part by unresolved trauma and fears from his soul's deep history with the impact on the collective psyche caused by the shift toward a more patriarchal and mechanical structuring of human consciousness.  Since Darwin was born in a colonial empire during a time of an increasing industrial revolution, and he also took advantage of opportunities to do world travelling and experience diverse cultures, he was able to see firsthand the destruction to natural ways of living caused by human development rooted in a monotheistic vision of the world that held followers of certain dogma to have access to eternal salvation, meaning that those who would not follow could likewise be damned.  Darwin came into contact with people who had been enslaved, as well as oppressed indigenous and aboriginal people as a result of his world travelling.  Moreover, his soul desire to travel the globe could in part be traced to his past incarnation as the famous explorer William Dampier, whose 12th House Sagitarius Jupiter is reflected in the 12th House conjunction of Sagitarius Saturn and Jupiter in Darwin's chart.  Since his Sagitarius Saturn ruling both the South Node of his Saturn and his natal Capricorn Moon is in a balsamic conjunction with Neptune, Darwin structured his consciousness to continually clear out illusory beliefs conditioned by culture that he came to realize through direct experience of his life were not actually true.

Interestingly, the North Node of Darwin's Saturn is in Cancer in his 8th house and so is also ruled by his Capricorn Moon in his second house.  This symbolism can be seen in his soul desire to form a family in his lifetime and become a committed father who was able to help nurture his children.  Darwin grew up with a father who was more obsessed with his own career and public reputation then spending time emotionally nurturing his children, and in many ways Darwin also continually found himself drawn in this direction as he was also obsessed with his career and how he would be viewed in history.  However, he also took time away from his career pursuits at various points to be with his family in times of need, and this seemed to be part of the evolutionary growth of his Saturn.  He had to overcome the 8th house fear of losing control in merging his heart and being into deep emotional intimacy with loved ones, risking having his heart broken by a tragedy such as the loss of his mother and the eventual loss of his own children.  Darwin's growth would be to open up the defensive side of his Cancer North Node in order to allow himself to be a fully present and emotional support for his loved ones; however, since his Capricorn Moon ruling his north node is also conjunct the South Node of his Saturn as well as the south nodes of Jupiter, Pluto, Venus, Vesta, and Mercury, nodes that are all connected with past life trauma, Darwin would experience an emotional dynamic of reaching out to connect with loved ones and then defensively withdrawing into a focus on his own resources and career pursuits.  However, since his Sagitarius Saturn is the ruler of his Capricorn Moon, and it is in a balsamic conjunction with Neptune- Darwin was able to structure his consciousness in a manner to realize some of the illusory beliefs carried over from past trauma and take the risk to fully emotionally connect with his wife and family.

love,
Gray
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Post by: Upasika on Nov 11, 2013, 06:03 AM
Hi Rad,

Firstly thanks, along with Gray, for the wishes re my health - I'm very happy to celebrate that with you!

And secondly, an update - I have been trying to squeeze some time aside to post on Saturn but just had some real major items to deal with and been further delayed. I just can't get to this for maybe up to another two or three weeks now, although I really want to post and will be looking for any opportunity to do so sooner if I can. I'm very sorry about this - and I'd totally understand if you need to move on before then.

blessings Upasika
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Post by: Rad on Nov 11, 2013, 09:40 AM
Hi Gray,

Thanks for taking the time, given all else going on in your life, that you have to work on this step in our planetary method: Saturn. What you have presented is, as you say, not as comprehensive as otherwise it could be, and degree and depth of comprehensiveness that I know you can do given your past EA work on our message board. What you have presented is certainly accurate enough and does capture certain core dynamics that comprised the structure nature of Darwin's consciousness. Your EA reasoning for what you have focused on is exceptional and very sound. This is how EA is meant to be done. You along with the others are truly helping teach EA to all those who have come to this thread to learn.

Bravo !

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Rad on Nov 11, 2013, 09:48 AM
Hi Upasika, Gray, Gonzalo, and Ari

I will keep this thread open and ongoing as long as you all want to keep it going until it's conclusion which will involve Uranus and Neptune. So if you all so desire please let me know. I understand the time constraints you are all dealing with because of life itself. If it takes longer for this or that segment on this thread then so be it as far as I am concerned. We are seriously considering turning this thread into a published book so as to have wider distribution of the incredible level of EA knowledge that this thread has generated because OF YOUR EFFORTS. For this I thank you all.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Nov 11, 2013, 02:08 PM
OK Rad, I'm the last on Saturn so I appreciate the space you're giving us to post when we can - I'll do it as soon as I'm able, thanks Upasika.
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Post by: Gray on Nov 11, 2013, 04:20 PM
Thank you for your feedback Rad,

I will interested in continuing to work on this thread until it is complete.

with gratitude,
Gray
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Post by: ari moshe on Nov 23, 2013, 11:42 AM
Hi Rad, just noticed your post now:

QuoteI will keep this thread open and ongoing as long as you all want to keep it going until it's conclusion which will involve Uranus and Neptune. So if you all so desire please let me know.

I absolutely want to continue - this has been very strengthening and we're almost done too.
With much love,
Ari Moshe
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Post by: Rad on Nov 24, 2013, 09:13 AM
Quote from: ari moshe on Nov 23, 2013, 11:42 AM
Hi Rad, just noticed your post now:

QuoteI will keep this thread open and ongoing as long as you all want to keep it going until it's conclusion which will involve Uranus and Neptune. So if you all so desire please let me know.

I absolutely want to continue - this has been very strengthening and we're almost done too.
With much love,
Ari Moshe

Hi Ari,

Yeah ...............

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Nov 24, 2013, 04:22 PM
Hi Rad,

Just checking in. I've now started Saturn, just a small amount but I've finally got a start on it yesterday. It's still absolutely crazily hectic in my life, as amongst many other things going on in my personal circumstances right now I am currently trying to hold down two jobs, but after next week hopefully that will ease up a bit.

Although my aim is to have this done by the end of the week I may not quite make that, but I'll be trying as hard as I can to keep chipping away at it in any spare moments I get till I get it posted. Thank you so much for your patience, I also feel very grateful that this really valuable journey we've all been on is coming closer to completion.

blessings Upasika
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Post by: Upasika on Dec 12, 2013, 03:48 AM
Hi Rad,

Thank you so much for waiting for me ... unfortunately Chiron hasn't quite finished with me yet, and I've had another health setback, some slipped discs that happened back in May have been recently diagnosed three weeks ago (this is completely unrelated to the heavy metals, which have all been fixed and have steadily remained that way, so still plenty to celebrate there).

I can still work, just more slowly and I've chipped away when I can at Darwin's Saturn and it is nearing completion. So it wont be long now, I will be able to post within the next 4 - 5 days, hopefully less. Thank you Gray, and Ari too for also waiting so patiently.

blessings Upasika
Title: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Dec 14, 2013, 07:57 PM
Hi Rad,


                        Why Darwin's Saturn is in Sagittarius in the 12th house


The signs are all based on one of four astrological elements, which are fundamental constituents of the Zodiac.

The Fire element is the energetic spirit that invigorates and animates everything, bringing a vivid focus to the present. It is through this special focus that the intrinsic meaning behind all appearances and events can be intuitively seen, and it is through this focus that a keen interest in the future is naturally developed, and via enthusiasm, effortlessly maintained. It is through the fire of passion that our desires so often become inflamed into life, or are over-indulged. And it is through Fire that individual identity, the self, is discovered and deepened. Fire searches for vision, and when the Fire of our own self and truth starts arising within, even just a flicker of it, then the innate purpose of our whole life at the soul level is also correspondingly kindled, stirred into consciousness.

The Air element is mind and mental connectivity in all its manifestations, and the intrinsic mental faculties that arise from mind - e.g. curiosity, cognition, understanding, and communication. Air is breathing, thoughts and thinking, evaluation and analysis, building ideas into concepts, records and knowledge, relating things and people to each other, creating organisational frameworks of all kinds, and making social connections and networks of all types on all scales. Air is about making distinctions, developing intellect and viewpoint, discerning proportion and balance, finding objectivity and perspective - and ultimately silence.

The Water element is the domain of feelings and emotions, moods, and psychic attunement to objects, events and other beings. Through Water the organic relationships that exist between people, animals, plants, soil and rock can be absorbed into our awareness, becoming emotional nourishment. Feelings are closer to the Soul than thoughts and the physical body, and are the way in which humans grow in comprehension and compassion. Psychic and emotional awareness and sensitivity combined with understanding of oneself, the environment and others helps develop the intelligent aspect of consciousness. It is also through Water that the connection we have to all that exists can be experienced on a soul level. However if our feelings or emotions are blocked over a sufficient period of time we start to become crippled in the heart, and that then causes suffering in the soul. Water flows, and it is when feelings can flow freely within our self, between ourselves and others, and between ourselves and the environment that life can develop in the heart and soul, that love can arise from within, and spread as warmth and beauty to all around.

The Earth element is matter, the material - physical substance in all its energetic expressions, its ever-changing forms. Physical substance is that which has shape, and mass - and together these two things (shape and mass) create form. The Earth element encompasses all such physical forms.

Shape is the amount and proportions of space that an object occupies. And mass is the intrinsic inertia of an object (it's resistance to being moved), and also its gravitational pull on or to all neighbouring objects. Thus the Earth element exerts a grounding influence on us all.

Individual particles of matter however manifest both as pure energy as well as objects having a fixed form. This is because essentially energy and matter are one and the same, even if this is not obvious in the view we have of anything through the senses in the physical realm. Thus forms can be, and are always potentially capable of being, modified, and is why when our inner psychological state changes and as a result we move into a different energy, this becomes correspondingly reflected in our external world, even in a physical way. Such a visible expression of cause and effect helps us to calibrate our desires and integrate our efforts. Regardless of our evolutionary stage, it helps to guide us towards intentions and actions based on an expression of goodness.

However matter is generally perceived as being opposite to spirit and Fire antagonistic to Earth. And in everyday life this is all too often how it plays out - Fire can often seem self-important and impractical, and Earth can seem overly mundane, materialistic and serious. Yet on a deeper level Earth and Fire are complementary, matter and spirit are connected in an intricate relationship. It is the Earth element that gives a context for our emotional and mental development, and the conscious unfolding of the purpose of any incarnation as we live it. Purpose emanating unconsciously from the Soul, stimulated into consciousness by Fire as Fire, and then consciously integrated and directed throughout one's life by the Sun (ruler of the central Fire sign). It is through the interaction of spirit with the physical, material dimension of life that we humans can grow from the experiences created, the lessons generated, and the inherent meaning this reveals to us on a soul level. In this way the Earth element is a vital formative factor in the evolutionary journey of the Soul.

Saturn is the ruling planet of Capricorn, the third and most developed of the Earth signs (and thus the most complex). Capricorn holds within it the assimilated knowledge and understanding intrinsic to both Taurus and Virgo, and through its own learning brings the Earth element development to a culmination. Capricorn is at home in the world, as the world is made of matter, and matter Capricorn understands. And as the final Earth sign, Capricorn is indeed the potential master of matter, and being Capricorn's ruler it is that towards which Saturn intrinsically strives, although in such a quest motive is everything. Without a sense of higher purpose Capricorn psychology can easily generate behavior that is short-sighted, highly self-serving, callous and potentially ruthless. Capricorn views things on a global scale, and often sees the world first and foremost and as a huge resource that can be exploited for maximum gain (at least through patriarchal eyes it does). Only after that does it see the world as a place where we can have a home, and where we can be at home (the Cancer polarity) - which we can manage sustainably. Yet when Capricorn desires to do good, via Saturn it can transform matter into objects of sheer wonder (e.g. the Pyramids, Stonehenge, the Taj Mahal), or create organisations for practically managing and helping the world (e.g. the United Nations, Red Cross) and organise (sometimes very) beneficial actions for the benefit of the Earth and it's dependents (e.g. national Environmental Protection movements, Global Fund-raising concerts for Relief funds).

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Mars, signifying our conscious desires, is the last outermost personal planet. Moving beyond the personal, Jupiter's big energy quickly pulls us into experiencing things on a larger scale than ourselves or our personal concerns. It opens us up to possibilities and understandings that are of a global or cosmic nature or concern. To be part of what is happening simultaneously everywhere is a very expanding experience, and is where Jupiter naturally tries to take us - forever into more expansion. However in order to assimilate this beneficially, we need to synthesize this whirlwind journey of experience into understanding. Fortunately this generally happens naturally over time (more or less), and to the extent it does we are able to develop a panoramic viewpoint and extensive wisdom.

Out beyond Jupiter, Saturn also has a far-reaching influence. It cannot be otherwise, as at least in the physical universe matter is everywhere, and our bodies are made of this very same matter. Chemical elements are simply atoms of a single kind. And all the chemical elements of which Earth and everything on it are made have all originated from outer space. Hydrogen is the lightest, simplest and most abundant chemical in the universe, and is the principal kind of atom in stars. Due to the intense temperature and pressure at the core of stars thermonuclear fusion turns these hydrogen atoms into helium, and then as the different types of stars age, between them into all the other chemical atoms in the known universe, which are ejected at (or near) the end of the stars life into space. And it is from these chemical elements in space that Earth has formed, and it is from Earthly chemical elements and molecules that our bodies have been created. And so the actual material atoms which our body is made up of, all of it, originated from outer space. We are immersed in a universal sea of matter and Saturn, the ruler of Capricorn, is the form and functioning of this matter.

In this way Saturn always reflects that we are an intrinsic part of the entire physical universe - a universe that is full of forms operating to and within universal laws - and as such via our physical forms, our bodies, our existence is also governed by these very same natural universal laws - physics, chemistry and biology. Although through Saturn we are connected to the whole physical universe, because of Saturn we are also bound into form and at any point in time must operate within the confines of our body, and the environment it is in. This has a natural restraining effect on the potentially never-ending expansion of Jupiter.

The first introduction we have to Saturn in our life in a tangible inner way usually comes about the age of 7 at our first (transiting) Saturn square (our natal Saturn), when we achieve our first major consolidation. Just as matter clumps together because of the force of gravity, with Saturn our psychological material and understanding contracts from time to time into a more solid psychological structure within us, into a "knowing" that has become so definite and real for us (having being born from long arduous experience) that it settles "into our bones" as our personal authority. This 7 yearly consolidation that happens throughout life, and the midway points in between (at the semisquare) reflected by Saturn's transit of our chart, either gradually crystalizes us into an overall psychological state of maintenance and defence, or one of strengthening resilience, maturity and readiness for further challenges - whatever they may be.

In one way, in terms of perception and understanding, Saturn is a measure of where we're at - depending on how we relate to the matter in our lives. Do we identify so much with the material that we forget that it is not simply a black and white substance - it is also energy in a form? And this energy can move from form to form. Once we understand this we can also realise that the forms matter takes are not absolute, and can stop becoming slavishly identified with the forms in our life. From this we can understand that it takes energy to build anything into a form, and also that the only permanence a form has is that created by maintaining the input of energy into it. This applies as well to the form of our body (and thus in many ways to its health), the form and organization of our situations, the form of our personal life and the involvements in our relationships, the shape and arrangements of our social networks, to the whole pattern and configuration of our entire world structure. These things all need energy to maintain them in their current form, or to build them into a different form, into something more necessary or desirable. Otherwise degeneration sets in and the form starts breaking down more and more, until all the components making up the form are released from that form.

When forms are understood like this the "burden" that is so often associated with Saturn is able to be changed into an acceptance of matter - of the material, of the actual nature of it. But if we don't understand form in this way then we remain grossly identified with the body and material objects, and the process that Saturn correlates to can be variously experienced as frustrating, restricting, unforgiving, unyielding, onerous, heavy etc. But as it becomes understood - that at times working with matter is just as much working with energy as it is working with something solid, then gradually Saturn can become more and more satisfying, and eventually can be enjoyed in full.

Just as matter (Earth) builds upon itself in so many different ways to create all the physical forms (Saturn) in the universe, as discussed above Saturn also represents the forms of the mundane conditions and situations that are part and parcel of our personal and social lives. And on a more subjective and intimate personal level Saturn also represents the psychological walls we build for protection and within which we house our "sense of self", and the scaffolding we use as we build more substance into our sense of self and extend our control over our self and our environment. With this inner development and building up of psychological substance in our sense of self, Saturn represents the inner platforms we establish to support all development, new ventures and extension into the world. So Saturn represents the forms matter takes, the mundane conditions of our lives, our ability to physically protect ourselves from the environment, and also the inner psychological forms and structures we use to protect our sense of our self, also to develop it further and make it more substantial. And regardless of what particular form the conditions of our lives and our sense of self are in, it takes a constant input of energy to keep that form in place.

These characteristics of Saturn are always modified in manifestation however by the structure (Saturn) of one's cultural environment. In some countries oppressive social and economic conditions are maintained by a constant input of energy from a tyrannical regime to make sure things stay that way. In other countries this also happens but not so overtly and some mundane self-determination is possible. And in other places it is relatively much easier for individuals to determine their mundane conditions because they are able to effectively alter the nature and quantity of energy they are putting into their personal, social, economic and political environment at will. And thus a change in the form of their conditions naturally follows, which is then correspondingly reflected in a changed "form" within, a different sense of self - inner and outer are always connected (the Cancer/Capricorn polarity in this context).

Because Saturn correlates with the form and functioning of matter, and matter is regarded as "real" (actual, has a verifiable existence which no-one disputes), Saturn is associated with reality. And this core characteristic of Saturn is where it is the most revealing. Our core reality is that we need to survive in the world and this determines the primary experiences we have. To effectively deal with the world we have to navigate all its structures, starting with the physical reality. We can't walk through walls, or walk on water, and there is no need - we can thrive perfectly well without doing either. Then the reality of the social environment is huge. The world is massively populated with people, and national boundaries are a reality, as real as any cold concrete prison floor if you deservedly or through bad luck end up on one for actually or apparently transgressing the laws of any nation. Then within that the cultural expectations of a country, the acceptable customary responses in all the various social situations - which are not enforceable by law but nevertheless are responsible for a multitude of hidden walls and doors wherever you go that are just as real as any prison floor.

We also need to interact with others in our environment to procure shelter, food and clothing, and collectively meeting these basic needs brings us together in our local communities and the larger cities and wider provinces within which they reside. And the relationships and activities we have in these settings establish the external reality of our everyday lives - based on our survival needs. And parallel to this we have all our personal relationships - from mere acquaintances to the closest of friends, from passing lovers to long-term partners, from immediate family to the widest of extended family connections, from people we struggle with or who struggle with us, to open or hidden enemies "¦ all our personal relationships also contribute to our reality in varying degrees of significance.

Obviously we have this basic desire to survive. But beyond that we have myriads of other desires that are all based on needing certain experiences. And it is in the process of pursuing our desires that we create all the structures in our life. These structures that we create on an ongoing basis on many different levels channel our experiences along a singular path, or along several paths - a path or paths of our own making. Saturn is about managing this aspect of our lives, this whole process, and involves setting goals and steadily working towards them. The more purposeful (Sun) our path through life is, the more constructive our total experiences are, and this is then reflected structurally (Saturn) in our consciousness as developing (Saturn) awareness. And this in turn constitutes our core inner reality, its structural actuality. The level of our awareness and the proportion of our consciousness to unconsciousness is what it is, and it is Saturn that correlates to this undeniable inner structural reality. Although we can always deny it to ourselves and/or hide it from others as much as we like, we wake up every day exactly where we are in consciousness, with not a fraction less and not a fraction more of it than that which we have. This is a Saturn phenomenon, "suchness", as certain as physical matter is what it is - and any imagination to the contrary happens within consciousness not outside it. Saturn represents all that cannot be denied.

It is this core nature of Saturn, correlating to reality that is also the key to mastering many of its challenges. If we stay with what is subjectively true for us, and also what is objectively factual, we stay with our own reality. But doing this can sometimes be a challenge in many ways - to our ego if it contradicts either our inner image of our self or our sense of personal safety (Cancer); it can be threatening to our social respectability (Capricorn) or to personal and social support (Leo/Libra/Scorpio/Aquarius); or it can even put our physical life in danger (Pluto). Because it can be very frightening in these situations, a common Saturnian reaction can also be to hide from the truth. And here is where Saturn gets revealing, as the moment we do this we move into the false. And because Saturn correlates to the substance of any form, when we move into the false we lose the inner substance that the very certainty itself of the truth always bestows. The resulting lack of inner emotional stability can easily affect us physically and is precisely why lie detectors work.

This whole area is the true battleground of Saturn. For when we face our vulnerabilities and fears - our feelings of inadequacy, our fear of failure, our loneliness, our self-denial; when we are feeling blocked in our self-expression or foiled in our external progress, or defeated in our contests with situations or others, disappointment of all kinds "¦ all these feelings in ourselves (often labelled personal "weaknesses" by the critical face of Saturn in ourselves or others) are things Saturn is often embarrassed by, ashamed of, wants to hide, to camouflage "¦ but which instead need to be acknowledged and lived. And in doing so, paradoxically this immediately brings inner strength which helps deal with each difficulty. But the more we push the reality away the more we become separated from our own truth and the inner relaxation, calm and freedom that brings. And always with Saturn the way through this battle is to take responsibility for the outcome to any situation as much as possible. Operating as objectively and efficiently as one can, and being determined to find a solution, one learns to keep digging deeper within oneself, to persevere until the solution to the problem is found.

On an individual level these are the main functions of Saturn - to force us to acknowledge and process all our emotions, to replace our fears with strength, to develop the capacity to solve our own problems, to grow through our experiences, and to become authentic through living our own reality whatever it is, and in so doing developing an inner centre that is real. It is through our own experience that true growth comes, and it is this that becomes our real knowledge - everything else is borrowed knowledge, good maybe as an inspiration and a guide, but not as something to hold onto forever. As we develop more and more of our own knowing from our own experience the more we consolidate our sense of self, thus eventually becoming free from the need for validation from external authority; validation from one's own true inner authority in the end becoming more relevant and meaningful. Because the more we dig deep into ourselves to explore and uncover who we are, the more we become integrated, and the more we can actualise our purpose (Sun). And only we can do that - no one else ever can. And once we understand this all comparison becomes meaningless, even if it continues at some level out of deep habit.

This is one of the gifts of Saturn - integrity. Eventually coming to realise that unless we have experienced something for ourselves we have nothing. All the wisdom of Jupiter means very little until it also becomes our own truth, as a result of our own experiencing. By working hard to root out all our conditioned responses and reactions to everyone and everything we eventually return to our innocence, and as we gradually remove the false from ourselves and our lives we progressively reveal our essence. However from the beginning of life most of us have been (to varying degrees) impacted by others on a personal, social and collective basis - conditioned to be other than our natural selves. And as well most of us bring into each life a legacy (Saturn) of unconscious conditioned responses and reactions to all manner of things - things from the past still unresolved and carried within our Soul (Pluto). So one of the core learnings of Saturn is to develop our capacity to be authentic in each life situation we find ourselves in, including all our current faults and imperfections, to be real - this is who we are. To realise that no God or Goddess is guaranteed to treat us as special in any way, and that if we want a certain result we need to try and create it ourselves. Taking responsibility in this way paradoxically also brings freedom. If we assume full responsibility for our situation, or at least our attitude and response to it, then we are simultaneously free to act in our response in any way we feel to. We become neither beholden to nor dependent on anyone. But it doesn't mean being a loner, or not accepting help, it simply means we wake up to and start actualising our potential. Capricorn, the 10th house and its cusp all represent the area of the sky directly overhead at birth, from where the planets bear down on us most strongly. Correspondingly, this part of the chart represents the area where the influence we have on our environment is potentially the most pronounced, and Saturn shows the process we go through in making that potential influence actual and real. So now we can look at Saturn in Darwin's chart.


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When looking at Darwin's chart specifically from the point of view of Saturn, there are several key things to register. Firstly Saturn is in the 12th house with Scorpio on the cusp, and in Sagittarius. The next thing is that Capricorn (the sign Saturn rules) is on the 2nd house cusp. Thirdly the natural Capricorn house (10th house) starts where its cusp is, and this 10th house cusp (in the Porphyry system) is where the Midheaven (MC) is in the chart, and the MC is in Libra. This gives us the central experiential framework and needs involved in Darwin's Saturn energy and its expression - the 12th/2nd/10th houses, with the natural understandings of Sagittarius/Scorpio/Capricorn/Libra governing it's functioning.

Darwin's worldly process (Saturn) is naturally going to be centred in his search for ultimate meaning and experience in his life - with Saturn in the 12th house, and in a close balsamic conjunction to Neptune (which is also in its own 12th house, the last house in the natural zodiac, and a balsamic conjunction also representing the end of a cycle - all greatly amplifying the significance of Saturn being in the 12 house in this situation). That ultimate meaning will be derived from an expanded viewpoint regarding, and an intuitional understanding of, himself at the Soul level - Saturn is in Sagittarius (overview, understanding) with the ruler of Saturn (Jupiter, expansion, intuition) in a new conjunction to Pluto (the Soul). Darwin would feel (Jupiter in Pisces) mental exploration (Jupiter in 3rd) to be a natural part of this search. He would have many thoughts (3rd) about his life in general, about himself as a person, and about his true nature (Pisces), which would all stimulate his search for that meaning.

With Scorpio on the 12th house cusp an unconscious drive for inner transformation would also be a part of his search for deep meaning. He would feel unsettled and frustrated at a Soul level due to many uncompleted desires (Scorpio) percolating in his unconscious (12th) - desires to know and experience the inner or hidden secrets of life (Scorpio). Whenever these desires floated into his subconscious via dreams at night or dreams during the day, or more clearly into his mind via sudden insights or as visions (12th), they would inject new material into his awareness and his search for meaning. This would be both deeply invigorating yet also highly confusing at the same time, but he would constantly sense that the clues to what he was looking for would be found through the active use of his mind (the ruler of the 12th house -Saturn's house- is in the 3rd house conjunct Mercury).

So the reason Darwin was driven to use his mind so much stemmed not just from the sizeable past life momentum he had developed in using it (Pluto in 3rd), or the huge energy he had for mental activity in this life (large stellium in 3rd), but also his deep need to release repressed desires that kept seeping up from his Soul, mostly into his subconscious mind but sometimes directly into his consciousness. These fragments became mixed into his life on two different levels - that of his spiritual yearnings and his sense of unity in life (12th), and that of his everyday life (3rd house). The effect of this would be to keep him focussed on his need to find some way to bring his mind to a point of restful equilibrium (packed 3rd house with PPP in the 9th), through satisfying his deeper longings for a personal experience of oneness that he could objectively know and validate (Saturn in 12th conjunct Neptune in Sagittarius, ruler Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd   "¦ psychologically Saturn is about finding one's authenticity, which leads to one's personal truth, and needing to objectively validate that; the 12th house, Neptune and Pisces are the experience, energy and attunement to Oneness; Sagittarius and Jupiter are seeking understanding, knowledge, the truth; and the activity of the 3rd is gathering as much information as possible, and classifying that information).

Objective validation always involves at least the 10th house, and to an extent the 11th house, because public involvement and agreement is necessary for external validation, and external validation is required for anything to be truly objective (Saturn). Thus the results of Darwin's quest needed to manifest in the 10th, so that the Saturn energy which was the driving force behind the search could be satisfied, due to the results being able to be objectively verified. And Mars (conscious desires) in the 10th house provides a good avenue for release of all the fragments of uncompleted desires arising in his 12th house (via the Scorpio cusp) to become consciously channelled into his worldly life (10th) and acted upon (Mars). With Mars in this position (10th) Darwin clearly intended to create as much as possible the means to actively release in a definitive way (10th) any repressions that surfaced in his life, in order to allow his search for ultimate meaning to proceed uninhibited (Mars). With Libra on the 10th house cusp he would generally be mindful of the social limitations surrounding his behavior, yet with Mars in the 10th the need to assert his right to individual expression would be pronounced (10th), and no doubt on occasions tend to be extreme (Libra).

A key factor in this search for ultimate meaning in life - a search that will involve very personal elements from deep within Darwin mixed with much public involvement - will be his needs concerning survival, values and self-worth (Capricorn, the sign Saturn rules, is on the 2nd house cusp). His innate needs and understandings in this area will constantly condition his evaluation of options and priorities (Saturn) concerning his efforts to establish and prove himself in the world (Saturn), and in how he manifests the results of those efforts (10th). With Capricorn on the 2nd house Darwin's efforts in life for tangible achievement (Saturn) would have been done with self-preservation issues firmly in the back of his mind much of the time, as the 2nd house is about one's survival and what is needed for that. This would have brought caution as a value into his methods of operating, which would have manifested as a "don't upset the authorities" kind of restraint in his mind regarding whatever he did. This is because Capricorn on the 2nd house is about taking responsibility for one's survival needs, and thus valuing whatever endeavour is made towards this a great deal due to the usually considerable personal effort invested (Capricorn). At the same time being aware of the impact (Saturn) that the world (Capricorn) can have on one's survival needs, for example if certain interpretation of laws, or the changing of laws, puts one at a personal disadvantage. With Capricorn on the 2nd house cusp there would be an awareness of the value in presenting himself in a conservative fashion that would not ruffle the feathers of anyone in authority. This would tend to further moderate his Mars in the 10th need to have freedom to act upon whatever desires arose at any time. The possibility of some tension around his desires at times is also reflected by the FQ square between his Moon in Capricorn (also in the 2nd house) and Mars in the 10th.

The design here is clear "¦ the conscious desire nature (Mars - where we first glimpse our Soul's desires as they arise instinctively into consciousness), is tightly structured in Darwin's consciousness. Mars is naturally a fiery, instinctive, single pointed, active and highly assertive energy. And Darwin's is placed in the 10th house, potentially a position of maximum influence on the environment. However it is hemmed in from all sides which creates the effect of channelling it - being in Libra (its natural opposite sign) its focus becomes diversified with a need to consider other people and to act in a balanced way; and the square from the Moon in Capricorn introduces a personal need to always be responsible; while the quincunx from Jupiter makes sure any out of place ego play or excessive selfishness backfires more often than not. So the only direction in which Mars can really expand is via it's mutual reception with Venus (the ruler of Mars is in Mars' own sign) which is an easy flow of energy into the house Venus is in, the 3rd, where as we know there is a "mountain of work" to be done, the perfect place for Mars' energy to be channelled.

Having Mars expressing itself towards the world from Saturn's natural house in such a controlled (Capricorn) fashion, distributing the results of the 3rd house research to significant people (Libra), is an excellent structure (Saturn form) in Darwin's chart for maximum output and beneficial results. And the underlying reason for such a form being created, through which Darwin had no choice but to operate, was because of the Full sesquiquadrate from Pluto in the 3rd to Mars in the 10th. The Soul required Darwin in this life to expand his understanding of the nature of the existing social and regulatory customs and pathways in his society via his work to fulfil it's purpose, which was to get the recognition from other scientists that he craved (Sun and Chiron in Aquarius, with Chiron squaring the lunar nodal axis), and also hopefully therefore as a by-product, an acceptance of his work and thus material progress (Moon in Capricorn in 2nd).

Saturn is about structure, and at this point we can see that the chart itself is in a bowl shaped structure (all planets evenly spread out within one half of the chart only), with Mars the leading edge of the bowl. This shape denotes a self-conscious person due to holding all their energies within themselves (in the bowl) creating a containment of themselves, and thus an elevated awareness of themselves. Darwin's energies were all assembled in the eastern (Ascendant) side of his chart, which is the hemisphere of the chart in which all the energies are rising towards the Midheaven, and are thus in the process of gaining in relative strength and influence as they approach the central point in the sky overhead. This creates an energy system that tends to impact itself on its environment (as opposed to the situation where all the planets are in the western, Descendant, side of the chart creating a receptive energy system that is easily impacted upon by the environment).

Darwin was indeed pregnant with a great mission and needed to be in some kind of control of his environment in order to facilitate his progress, and this spatial arrangement (Saturn) of his planets in the chart, and what it allows, shows a coordinated strategy (Saturn) in operation by the Soul in terms of aligning everything possible in favour of success in this lifetime. Because all of Darwin's energies were contained within him the way they were, it meant he was also simultaneously aware of the corresponding emptiness in his experience reflected by the other (empty) half of his chart (there is no currently activated energy there, no planets). This sets up within him its own dynamic of uncertainty about everything that empty half represents - he simply has no direct experience of it - and this can easily become a frustration in itself, and a powerful motivation to fill that emptiness with something.

In Darwin's case his Soul has set up this arrangement of his energies, with Saturn (along with Neptune) in a commanding position in the occupied half of the chart, as Darwin very much needed  to contain all his energy, desire and purpose as much as possible so that he could coordinate a life of meticulous application into a grand result. It was this result (Saturn) that once produced meant he would have something to give to the world, something he would be able to flood the empty half of his chart with. But until he had the result he needed to contain his total energies so that they were more easily able to be channelled virtually en masse into the rigorous scientific process necessary to do what he had to do. Here we are seeing in stunning clarity (visually, graphically) how Saturnian requirements dictated the exact shape, the precise psychological form required to hold the Soul's consciousness for optimum fulfilment of Darwin's desires. Which would be achieved through acting upon desires in a controlled way (as previously discussed), and fulfilling them in a productive manner (Mars in 10th) thus leading into the new experience signified by the empty half of the chart, starting with the 9th house containing the coveted PPP.

So these are central things to register, and in so doing we have outlined the areas of his life where Darwin is going to be engaged in the process of actualizing his potential to influence society (Saturn), the approach he will take as he does that, and the understandings that are behind that process and that will moderate it.

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Let's now have a look at Darwin's past lives to see how events have developed in relation to Saturn. The Soul's very distant past has been extensively covered in detail in previous posts so we will just summarize it in relation to how it has influenced the evolution of Saturn. We know that the Soul of Darwin has not always been late 3rd stage individuated. In its consensus days it had deep and seemingly endless struggles (Saturn) with survival with loss of family lives and deep prolonged stress and suffering as a result. This steadily led to a great wounding to it's self-worth, and after lifetimes of physical, emotional and mental hardship, agony and deep guilt the Soul became hopelessly depressed. Feeling an utter failure the soul looked for ways to escape society, which resulted in much time spent in institutional isolation of various kinds. With unending time to reflect this in turn gradually brought about a great disillusionment within the Soul - the combined effect of all that had come before (Neptune in 12th). And because Neptune is ruled by Jupiter which is in Pisces, and Jupiter is ruled by Neptune in the 12th "¦. there would have seemed to be no escape from this deep depression and disillusionment (please reference previous posts for all the astrological signatures relating Saturn and Neptune to all the planetary SNs and this past life context).

Languishing in such psychological pain it is highly possible that the personality has then tried to take its life, commit suicide, as an attempt at the ultimate escape (Saturn balsamic conj Neptune 12th). With such a sense of futility (Saturn in 12th) having reached to the Soul level (Scorpio on 12th house cusp) a highly desperate state of affairs has manifested, and suicide may have seemed a perfectly viable option. If so, such an experiment would have obviously failed in terms of permanent ending of the Soul, as that is not possible. And after the act the Soul would have reviewed the life, and manifested the next life registering that suicide was not an option anymore. If this was what happened, then once such an extreme action has been experienced life has a new edge to it.

However these lives were also the turning point for the Soul, even though the inner despair would have been more intense than ever, as from this ultimately desperate position it sparked the Soul "breaking out on its own (SNs in 1st) in search for more meaning in life via a huge desire to escape from the mundane - the result of a courageous and defiant reaction which had arisen up within the Soul as a result of years of struggle and hardship which the Soul had believed in for a very great number of lives out of sheer necessity because that was the Soul's primary experience for such a long time".  And we know that point was probably when the Soul of Darwin started its journey away from the Consensus. However with Pallas in a crescent square to Saturn, there is still an imprint in the Soul structure from those very distant, distant times, the sense of inner compression is still there after so long "¦ an ambivalence in the psyche, a lingering unconscious fear of failure and a subtle temptation to leave the body as one possible way of dealing with that.

We know that from that point however the Soul has in a way never looked back. From one extreme to another, it's reaction at the Soul level to being stuck in hardship and misery for so long gradually manifested as more and more restlessness, a great thirst to travel and experience many different cultures (SNs of Mars & Uranus in Sag 1st, SN of Jup in 1st). And along the way the Soul's mind engaged and expanded itself in all the ways previously discussed, leading to the current life with Sat balsamic to Nep in Sag as a result. And now after all this travelling and studying of nature Darwin has seen a great deal, and been changed a great deal. He has become highly creative and sensitive (all the Pisces factors etc.), and he knows in his bones (Saturn) that there is more to life than what can be seen (conj to Neptune and in 12th) and he wants to know what that is very, very badly. So in this life, in what further ways will Saturn structure Darwin's life and conscious experience?

Firstly with Saturn in Sagittarius Darwin has chosen a democratic country with a capitalist economy in which to be born - a "free" country. This was a vital ingredient that has given him an open field in which to pursue his desires, a wonderful freedom of movement, speech and action. Secondly, for all the reasons previously given, via his Capricorn 2nd house he was able to create a basis for solid financial support. With survival and his work taken care of his only other desire was concerning a family, which he managed to conveniently pluck from the existing family structure. So these structures facilitated the basic fulfilment of his core desires - survival, work and family.

Once the macro structures of one's life are in place (as above), we need smaller structures, inner platforms, to facilitate development of our existing work and new ventures.  For Darwin he needed to create plans, record his ideas, devise experiments, create organising and classifying systems, prepare budgets and apply for funding etc. Much of this involved his Mercury FQ square Saturn, and represented a significant challenge to him. Darwin would have been under a lot of tension often, just dealing with the fact this all needed doing and in finding the form and mechanism for these things - the FQ square is a crisis in action and these kinds of tasks were not necessarily interesting to him nor initially natural (with Saturn in Sagittarius and Mercury in Pisces he was first and foremost hungry for the big picture) but this Saturn square forced him to become disciplined early on. His desires (Mars) for publically (10th) verifiable results (Saturn in Sag) absolutely necessitated perfection (Saturn conj Neptune) in these administration areas and thus he had no choice but to develop his Mercury Saturn square to its fullest potential or otherwise suffer enormous inner conflict around his work. It was also a very beneficial development as he needed his logical mind to be impeccable in its ability to communicate all kinds of information to all kinds of people both written and orally, and only by developing such a disciplined Mercury was this possible.

Helping ease the way in all his work related concerns and relationships of course was his Venus FQ trine to Saturn. This brought a great deal of personal confidence and professional structure into relationships that would have opened doors that were vital. Combined with his Capricorn Moon, even as a young person he could exhibit a worldly maturity that was attractive to adults much older than him, and without these important connections he would never had been able to do what he did. With Mars in Libra clearly indicating his Soul's desires for professional (10th) relationships, Saturn trine Venus gave him the capacity to truly fulfil that desire. It would also have allowed him to easily attract women if he so chose to when feeling sexual. He was married but concealed (Saturn in 12th) flirting may have been an interesting pastime (Venus in Aries in 3rd) to him, although it's unlikely to have ever amounted to anything more than that (Saturn is usually too confined by an awareness of responsibilities and repercussions).

So these were some of the ways in which Darwin's external experiences were shaped by Saturn structuring, which in turn affected how he actualized his potential to influence society. But perhaps more interesting is how his inner world was structured. With Saturn in the 12th conjunct Neptune Darwin was a very hard person to fathom, sometimes referred to as an enigma by his peers. To understand this we first need to explain the significance of the 12th house. The 12th house is the final (and natural Pisces) house, a water house.

The sense we have of ourselves is built up in many layers, starting with our instinctive urges in Aries and the 1st house, and any new conjunctions in the chart. These are all our "new beginning" points, where we act automatically if we are not very conscious or in danger, but otherwise spontaneously when we are properly conscious. We get a slight feeling or sense of ourselves from these perceptions and actions but it is usually fleeting (unless of course it was traumatic as in an accident). Even when we have to pause before deciding on an issue or engaging in some daily process, the action we are taking might impact our sense of who we are slightly more, but it tends to fade on a daily basis. However if we have to act vigorously in any situation, one inner result of that is that it wakes our consciousness up a bit, impacts us more strongly - the blood might rush, so it can jolt us and that gives us a much greater sense of ourselves, which can last up to a few days or a week or more. And all these things on different layers of experience are going on at the same time, so it's all building up in layers, and in this way our sense of ourselves is always assembling itself, and then fading away as new events bring new experiences with fresh impact on us, from which we rebuild our sense of ourselves anew"¦. and so it goes on an everyday basis.

But underneath this we have a witnessing quality to us, which tends to just be there aware of things subconsciously. This witnessing quality does not change with external events, or with our thoughts, feelings or actions. It always maintains itself - seems to have its own private battery because it's always on. When we go to sleep at night it is the feeling of ourselves going to sleep, and when we wake up it's the feeling of ourselves waking up. Falling asleep and waking up are external to this witness, and it is not identified with these actions. It's the ego, the constant feeling we have of who we are that does not change, that involves a feeling and internalised picture of who we are "¦ as we breathe in and out.

We all need this subconscious sense of ourselves, otherwise we would feel insane. Aha, well we don't want to feel that do we? This unchanging sense of ourselves is born in the 4th house by the Moon - thus it's a Cancer understanding and vibration. We need this inner identity to relate our awareness to, hence we sometimes "talk to ourselves". From our current awareness we are talking to this imaginary "self" that we are. But that's the thing, somehow to us it's not imaginary at all, it feels very real, and we may get emotional if this feeling we have of ourselves is contradicted, blocked or suppressed, denied, insulted or exploited. Because our sense of ourselves is different to everyone else's sense of themselves it is also a sense of being separate to others, although often we long to have that feeling of isolation displaced by being with likeminded people and by having loving, nurturing bonds with others. This is the basis of "family and friends" that is generically valued the world over, and why.  

And the polar opposite in the zodiac, Capricorn, in theory guards the entrance to this cave of familial togetherness, inside which the sense of self exists, and protects this sense of self from precisely all those things that would hurt it (contradiction, being blocked or suppressed, denied, insulted or exploited etc.). But often that doesn't work because no-one can protect anyone from all these possibilities 24x7, and thus we need to get realistic (Saturn) about our sense of self, and keep updating it to be as emotionally self-functioning and self-sufficient as possible (via constructive emotional processing) so that as a living biological system it's downtime (non-functioning time) is minimised - that it exists effectively, and thus healthily (Cancer, the 4th house and the Moon).

And through each further sign (using Saturn) we add more substance to this sense of self, our ego. A key breakthrough comes through Scorpio, the 8th house or Pluto (the Soul). Here the sense of self is forced to deepen, and much more becomes possible is terms of knowing one's sense of self. The witness aspect of the self becomes more powerful and steady here. But the stakes are much higher - making the right decisions can be deeply rewarding in terms of pleasure but making the wrong ones can bring great pain. And then we move on through the next signs.

However although all this effort to develop (Saturn) our ego proves very useful most of the time in many situations, there is a side to life where it proves to be of no use at all. Because in the 12th house (or in Pisces or with Neptune) if we try to stay identified with this (now) possibly infinitely beautiful and glorious sense of our self, certainly a very matured sense of our self and no doubt one we've become very fond of "¦ inevitably at some point we start to fall apart. And if we persist we steadily become very unsettled and uncertain, often unhappy, ungrounded and spaced out, and eventually delusional, or worst case - insane. All because we fear not knowing who we are - we cannot imagine being happy without our "sense of self", we have become so very used to it. And thus we hang on to it "¦ firmly (or tightly if we feel we need to). And naturally so - to let go and be a "nobody" is generally very frightening for the everyday awareness that the conscious self generally consists of.

Saturn is the last planet one can see with the naked eye, and so it represents the outer boundary of the conscious self. The planets beyond that correlate with our unconscious self. And accordingly Saturn is very invested usually in protecting this conscious sense of self that manifests in many layers within us, but which has its roots in our Moon, 4th house and Cancer makeup, and binding to our Soul via Pluto, the 8th house and Scorpio. Capricorn and Saturn both need a strong sense of self to function properly, and as the sense of self is an innate psychological form, from wherever they are in the chart they are able to invest in it, build it up, and protect it. This works everywhere except when Saturn is in the 12th house or Pisces, which represent an experience and attunement to a space that is an infinite unity, with no possibility to create forms within. Because no sooner a boundary is created in this space than it is mysteriously dissolved. So no form can ever take shape in a permanent way, at the most it can only exist in passing. In the 12th Saturn simply cannot function as it normally does, certainly not in relation to the sense of self.

How someone is able to be with an energy and vibration such as this depends greatly on their evolutionary stage. Darwin was late 3rd individuated which means his sense of self was highly developed, stable within and without, and reasonably free i.e. unique and original. However he did have a lot of Christian conditioning; many Christian beliefs - ideas about life and God based on the Bible that he hadn't necessarily experienced for himself or was interested in doing so, but which he nonetheless retained as part of his "sense of self". With his Saturn in the 12th Darwin would have found his strongly developed sense of self could exist and persist for all intents and purposes, most of the time. He had a staunch Moon in Capricorn and could defend his inner state through emotional control. This would allow him to function in the world and pursue his desires. However he would have been haunted by a nagging sense of uncertainty and insecurity, that felt totally elusive on a mostly constant basis in the background to his daily life. He would be able to maintain this uneasy balance between his sense of being a separate individual, and having a diffused sense of a centre and much reduced power over the environment - by creating a strict routine of work, personal duties, creativity time and family recreation time - a constant time for each in the day, day after day for almost the whole of his married life. Saturn being in the 12th forced him to create a highly structured unchanging lifestyle based around family and work alone. And this was vital for Darwin for several reasons.

Firstly he had lived so many past lives in a very expansive and unstructured way. The most recent life he had lived almost out of control, being wild and unruly, and it has given him a love of all that was completely isolated from society, so immersed in nature that he had very little to do with civilisation. This meant he was used to always being in a large undefined space (geographically, exactly like the 12th is psychologically).

Secondly, his experiences he has had of nature for lifetimes have been telling him that there was a hidden connection somehow operating "¦ intuitively he sensed something invisible behind the physical world, or hidden within it, that was larger than the world of the senses. He knew in his bones (Saturn) there was more to life, more to nature, than met the eye. Elusive and mysterious though it was, it was exactly the area he was interested in, and needed to work in "¦ if "work" is possible as such in the 12th. In fact it is more like "coping" rather than working, but it meant he was free to continue without restrictions, as he had in previous lives, and at the same time it forced him to bring a Virgo/6th/Mercury vibration to his life (via his routines which were vitally needed to balance and stabilise his 12th house situation). Provided he took responsibility for his Saturn functioning and made sure it did function sufficiently, having Saturn here gave him full control and the freedom he was accustomed to, to utilise his Saturn energies as he liked. It meant he had a channel, via his human mind, into the vast mystery of the beyond.

And thirdly, as one nears the end of the 3rd individuated evolutionary stage, approaching the transition to the spiritual, nervousness can arise. The sense one has of oneself is coming to it's culmination, strongest manifestation, and a vague subtle emptiness sometimes appears to be on the horizon. In this inner situation there is sometimes a desire to delay (Saturn) the inevitable by anchoring oneself to the past in some way, by identifying with an aspect of oneself that is known and reliable. And Darwin was doing this through a massive and total identification with his life's work (Saturn). The highly structured lifestyle and total focus he created around his work because of having Saturn in the 12th was also to create this anchor against the tides of the infinite.

Another reason Saturn was in the 12th house was due to the huge build up of guilt over so many lifetimes, that it was almost more than he could ever deal with, and thus much of it had been pushed deep into his unconscious. His guilt is largely natural in origin and so is not going to fade easily from his consciousness, and his Soul knows the best way to atone for this guilt now is by dedicating his total abilities and skills to some cause, some great sacrifice (12th house), which of course his work (Saturn) represented in that he had an enormous intellect and dedicated his entire life in total to using it for the benefit of humanity.

It was for all these various reasons that Darwin's Saturn was in the 12th house - it was a space he was already very familiar with at a Soul level. And it was also a space he absolutely needed to be in control of as much as possible, in order to not just repeat his last life, which in a way was productive but at the end of the day changed little from a public perspective, and also left him with unfulfilled desires and very likely feeling frustrated (Saturn quincunx the Noon's SN). And as his core interest in nature had taken him so deeply into it, that it was as if he was looking at an invisible veil, behind which he had already sensed biological secrets, in this life it was vital that he was able to have a clear and sane head to continue in that mysterious realm. Not just to be grounded himself in his observations and work with biological and geological unity, but so he could capture it and show it to others.

And for that capture the Soul needed Saturn to be in Sagittarius. As we know Darwin had been building to this life of great revelation for many lifetimes now - this has been gone into so extensively by everyone. And we can see this reflected throughout the chart ... PPP in the 9th house, Jupiter new conjunction Pluto, Jupiter in Pisces, Mercury balsamic conj Pluto in the 3rd, Uranus conj the lunar NN and a Sagittarius ASC ... the Sagittarian themes permeate throughout the chart. And because of this here is another case where there is very little choice on the part of the Soul as to Saturn's placement in the chart - the optimum location by far for Saturn is in Sagittarius, to act as a binding and stabilising force for all these higher mind energies, pursuits and preoccupations.

Regardless of where it's placed Saturn in Sagittarius invokes a need to understand an actual reality as opposed to a theoretical possibility, and also a need to be a little streetwise. In Darwin's case it was a need to understand what these mysteries he was observing actually were, beyond his or anyone else's theories. Because no-one had the definitive answers to the questions Darwin was deeply concerning himself with, it may have been tempting at times to pass a theory off as a valid explanation, simply because Saturn's truth is such hard work, and if any weaknesses in the argument were compensated for probably no-one would be able dispute it anyway. But with Saturn in Sagittarius faith in one's own theories, or other people's answers, or even directly in the unknown itself, is minimised ... and a superficial truth will certainly never satisfy. Saturn in Sagittarius potentially brings sincerity and integrity into the search for truth, and being in the 12th, for the whole truth. But whenever he discovered something of the truth it also gave him the sense to thoroughly analyse possible reactions to it (of all kinds not just logical), and also the ability to create effective strategies concerning those premeditated arguments against those possible reactions "¦ to be mentally streetwise (Sag). Which was an important part of his overall scientific work, getting it accepted enough that it was genuinely validated once and for all. This was absolutely necessary in order to avoid another life just the same as Dampier's - spectacular and brilliant in output, but a relatively dismal failure in terms of reward for that great exertion, reward being recognition for his true worth "¦ the healing he has so desperately needed from the world for lifetimes. So in one sense, ultimately Saturn was in Sagittarius in the 12th house to ensure that Darwin finally got the deepest healing on a Soul level that was so, so desperately needed - he just needed to revolutionize science, as it was known at the time, to get it. Having Saturn in Sagittarius in the 12th helped the Soul to finally turn its deepest weakness into its greatest strength.

blessings Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Dec 15, 2013, 09:30 AM
Hi Upasika,

Yeah. Thanks for doing this segment on Saturn given just how busy you have been. I will read through it on Monday. After that we can begin on the Uranus segment of the Planetary Method. I am so glad you, Ari, and Gray, will be continuing on with the last two parts of the Planetary Thread. It has been simply incredible EA work to date. Over 10,000 people have now clicked on this thread to read. All of you have been serving as true ambassadors and teachers of EA. Thank you all for this.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Dec 16, 2013, 10:23 AM
Hi Upasika,

Wow !! This is simply the most brilliant of EA work in general, and specific to the Saturn segment relative to Darwin. Anyone who has come to this thread to read it is treated to your full understanding as to the nature of the archetypes involved in understanding of Saturn in general, and specifically as applied to the life of Darwin in which you have so expertly woven together the history of his Soul leading to the life of Darwin itself. And within that weaving integrating so much of all the other planetary archetypes that we have discussed in this thread as they apply to life in general for all Souls, and, of course the life of Darwin: present and past. This is simply a tremendous EA analysis that you have created that as utterly sound from a reasoning point of view as it is instructive to all those who have come to this thread to read.

This is how EA is meant to be done. I am sure JWG would be given you high fives all over the place because of.

Because you have tied it all together in this thread, all the other planets we have discussed and EA analyzed to the present, you have indeed set the stage for the last two parts of this Planetary Method of Chart Analysis: Uranus then Neptune.

We will begin work on Uranus tomorrow: Tuesday December 17th.

Bravo Upasika !!

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Dec 17, 2013, 10:57 AM
Hi Ari, Gray, and Upasika....

So we have now come to our next step in our Planetary Method of EA chart analysis: Uranus.

                                     Uranus, Aquarius and the 11th House.

Following Saturn which correlated, among other things, to the natural boundary within the total consciousness of the Soul between it's subjective consciousness which is defined by Saturn in conjunction with the Moon, and the sub-conscious, or as Jung called it, the individuated unconscious of the Soul. The individuated unconscious of the Soul correlates to content that in unique to each Soul.

The individuate unconscious of any Soul correlates to all the long term memories of the entire history of the Soul. These memories in turn 'condition' roughly 80% of the conscious thoughts, emotions, behaviors and desires of the Soul.  These long term memories, because they reflect all the places and lives the Soul has lived, serve to condition the Soul's consciousness in any life: how it thinks, acts, behaves, and it's orientation to life itself.

Uranus is also the area within the consciousness of the Soul that becomes the depository of that which is suppressed about the Soul where Saturn correlates to that active suppression. That which is suppressed is now acting as a sub-conscious level within consciousness. That which is suppressed continues to condition the subjective consciousness of the Soul however: of that which the Soul is conscious of.

Uranus also correlates the entire grouping of humans on the planet: humanity. The vibrational nature of Uranus thus serves as a self segregating dynamics that serves to create groups of like mind. Thus our friends, the subgroup of Souls that any Soul will identify with. There are essentially three types of sub-groups that comprise the whole of all of humanity.

1.  Defenders of the past
2. The mainstream or consensus
3. The rebels or revolutionary's of one type of the other

And within those groups are racial groups and whole countries that have their own national identifies.

Uranus also correlates to what JWG called the "Freedom from the known" that he wrote an entire book about. Freedom from the known correlates to liberation from all the dynamics that have been keeping the Soul held down, like marking time, that in turn inhibits the ongoing evolution of the Soul. What are those dynamics ? And why have they operated in this way ?

Uranus also correlates to traumas which is a basic correlation to Uranus. What have those traumas been and why ? These traumas can also correlate to shared traumas with others: group trauma. For example, all Souls on Earth have their S.Nodes of Uranus in Sagittarius. One of the specific traumas that we all share correlates to the invention, Uranus, of various religions, cosmologies, and philosophies that have nothing to do with Natural Laws: that which was set in motion at the moment of the Manifested Creation. And how those invented religions, etc, have been used by way of the moralities and ethics attendant to each on have been used to judge and control who groups of peoples. The traumas occur because, in fact, all these various inventions of cosmologies are not in alignment with the Natural Laws themselves.

The liberation, or 'freedom from the known' from these existing dynamics occurs within the natal house and sign of Uranus itself: a paradox. And this is done by way of the N.Node of Uranus: house, sign, and aspects that serve as liberation's within the existing natal house and sign of Uranus. So the house placement of the N.Node of Uranus, which is in Gemini for all of us, is a critical archetype that allows this liberation to occur relative to the natal position of Uranus itself. The location of the planetary ruler of this N.Node, Mercury for us all, and the aspects it is making to other planets provides further archetypes through which this liberation form the past can take place.

Within this Uranus operates as the subconscious vehicle through which the evolutionary impulses or intentions of the Soul manifest: the blueprint for the Soul's larger future. This blueprint manifests as thoughts and ideas that correlate, the very nature of them, about the possible futures that the Soul could manifest if acted upon.

One of the primary correlations of Uranus is one of objectification: of objectifying anything. To objectify requires a necessary detachment from the immediacy of that which is at hand. To objectify requires an emotional disengagement from that which is being observed so that an actual understanding of that which is being detached from can be understood for that which it actually is. This then allows the Soul to understand itself as it actually is without any emotional attachement to anything that would prevent that objective understanding to take place.  

All of these dynamics, in combination, affect the physiological functioning of the brain itself because Uranus correlates to the brain as an organ. The physiological functioning of the brain in determines exactly how all of it's components, dendrites, synapses, neurons, the neurotransmitters, left brain, right brain, primary brain, frontal cortex, and so on operate together.  

So let us now examine in Darwin's birth chart his natal placement of Uranus, the location of the S/N Nodes of Uranus, and the placement of their planetary rulers in his chart. Given that Darwin chose to have his Sun in Aquarius, which we have done an EA analysis of already, how does that tie into to these placements ?

If you have any questions please ask them of me now.

God Bless, Rad


Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Dec 23, 2013, 10:51 PM
Hi Rad,

Thanks for your feedback - I really appreciated it.

And to let you know that I'm away on holiday soon for a while so won't be able to get onto Uranus till I've got back and caught up - later in January.

Also a great big thank you for being you. And helping us so much to learn EA - which is an absolutely wonderful gift you have given us all. Hope you get some time off, and best wishes for a lovely New Year.

blessings Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Dec 24, 2013, 01:13 PM
Hi Rad just to let you know where I'm at with this, I'm planning to begin working on this next week and to post by the end of that week.
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Dec 25, 2013, 09:07 AM
Hi Ari,

Thanks for letting me know. Gray please let me know of your own plans for this part of our Planetary Method.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Gray on Dec 30, 2013, 01:26 AM
Hi Rad,

I am just beginning my work on Uranus and Darwin and will be working on it this week. Hopefully I will be able to post at the end of this week. 

love,
Gray
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Dec 30, 2013, 09:01 AM
Hi Gray,

Wonderful. Thanks for letting me know.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Jan 05, 2014, 12:06 AM
Hi Rad, I haven't completed this yet. I anticipate this will happen within the next 3-5 days. I need to attend to the inner for a bit. Thank you,
God bless,
am
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Jan 09, 2014, 10:05 PM
Hi Rad, I'll be posting tomorrow. Thank you for your patience and for this opportunity.
God bless,
Ari Moshe
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Jan 10, 2014, 08:51 AM
Hi Ari,

Ok, thanks for letting me know.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Jan 10, 2014, 09:30 PM
Darwin has natal Uranus stationing retrograde in Scorpio in the 11th house. Uranus is conjunct the north node of the Moon as well as the north node of Chiron. Along with the north node of the Moon and the north node of Chiron, Uranus forms a first quarter square with Chiron itself in Aquarius in the 2nd house. Uranus rules that Aquarius.

Uranus is ruled by Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd house. Pluto forms a stellium of conjunctions to other planets in Pisces including Mercury and Jupiter, it squares the AC DC axis which is ruled by Mercury and Jupiter - both of which are in a balsamic phase relative to one another. Uranus is trine Pluto and the Pisces stellium.

The south node of Uranus is in Sag in the 1st house. It is conjunct the south node of Mars in the same position. The ruler of this south node is Jupiter which is in mutual reception with Neptune in Sag in the 12th. This Jupiter is in a new phase conjunction with Pluto and is in a gibbous phase sesquiquadrate with the north node of the Moon.

The south node of Uranus is also squared by its ruler Jupiter, as well as by the entire Pisces stellium including Pluto. These are all crescent and first quarter phase squares.
The north node of Uranus is in Gemini in the 7th. Similar to the sn of Uranus, the north node traces and connects back to the Pisces stellium and thus its mutual reception with Neptune. The south node of Uranus is squared by its ruler Mercury as well as the entire Pisces stellium all disseminating and last quarter phase squares.

Uranus on the north node in Scorpio in the 11th house stationing retrograde correlates to the intention in the life of Darwin to become an intensely introspective and reflective thinker. It correlates to a station that he reached in that life where the soul has desired to liberate from anything that inhibits him from his authentic soul nature; stripped of any identity that is not true to who he actually is at that level of evolution. This signature correlates to a deep intelligence and an ultimate capacity to perceive the underlying fabric, archetypal nature of existence from an objective point of view. In order to access that objectivity this soul has needed to detach from any kind of subjective projections onto the circumstantial realities of it's life that would inhibit a clear perspective of the fabric of reality.

Relative to the ruler of Uranus, Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd which is trine to Uranus and is in balsamic phase with Mercury and square to the AC DC axis, this soul has simply amassed so much information in the past - has asked so many questions and has interacted with so many people from all over the place. In the life of Darwin the soul experienced great doubt and inner turmoil regarding "what to believe": What's fact and what's opinion? What to believe what to deny? How can I tell the difference between what's true and what's false? The opposition between Lucifer in Virgo in the 9th and Pluto in Pisces in the 3rd implies the intent to work out a cosmology - the nature of which would bring light and healing to the collective and would clarify/correct thought forms held in the collective that assume various things to be true that are in fact not true. All this gives a bit of context for the nature of this Uranus which was just stationing retrograde: this soul has desired to cut to the bottom line and was just for the first time initiating a process of deep internalization. Thus the intent was truly to weed out the data, sources of information, points of views and specific lines of questioning that are not necessary, and instead to become singularly focused upon what is in order to fulfill the desire for a purely scientific and clear perception of reality and self.

This Uranus also implies a strong focus on him becoming empowered in being just who he is instead of trying to fit into an existing status quo.

Uranus is the ruler of the Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd house. As we know this Sun rules the 9th house: actualizing his own cosmology by way of becoming content to walk his own path, to take intellectual matters into his own hands so to speak. Thus, given the ruler of the current life Sun being on the Lunar north node, it implies that this life was about bringing to creative actualization his own objective thought process. This means that this soul has developed in the life of Darwin a deep objective knowledge of his own inner psychology - all from an objective scientific point of view. He learned how to view himself as a separate organism and to ask the questions "why": why this biology, why these desires, why these impulses. All of this is further emphasized by way of his Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd forming a gibbous phase sesquiquadrate with Uranus: The meticulous scientific process of learning how to ask the right kinds of questions in order to achieve the desired knowledge about the facts of nature.

The inner stress within this soul would be great given the nature of Uranus itself which is already very highly nervous. The addition of Uranus stationing retrograde and being on the north node is a clear leading point for this soul's own evolution; he would not rest until he could resolve and see clearly the massive content that would be playing through his subconscious on an almost constant basis. This content would point to past experiences that have imprinted his thinking and perception of the world. The nature of this content would naturally lead this soul to feel different, alienated, inhibited, a part from, and wounded (Chiron in Aquarius squaring the nodes) on a very deep level.

In this sense, while this soul was moving forward with his evolution, he simultaneously needed to look at these past imprints (and thus constantly re-experience them) in order to foster an objective awareness of them. The analogy that I get is that this soul essentially learned how to view his own personal history - all of it (even though he wouldn't have been conscious of that fact) as if he was looking at himself very carefully through a telescope: observing the entire terrain. I say this because whenever he was exploring the questions of biology and genetics he was inherently tuning in to his own individuated past and thus his own past traumas linked to survival of the fittest, exclusion, violation etc. This is an inherently difficult and fragile state to be in as it means constantly rehashing old trauma. The Capricorn Moon in the second as we expressed was clearly indicative of the deep need within this soul to create a foundation of stability and continuity on an emotional level so that he can hold space for himself in this way.

The south node of Uranus is in Sag in the 1st house. This correlates to a soul that has desired to roam free, to be bound by no one and no thing. The underlying intention for this soul has been to have all the experiences he deemed necessary in order to literally liberate his consciousness from the confines of traditional time/space/cultural "should" and "should not" reality. This south node with its squares to the Pisces planets correlates to a strong yearning within this soul to roam free, to get out of the box and just flow with the wind. This is in fact something he has done - and yet there has been an underlying nervousness and reactivity within this soul; to react and rebel by way of being in constant motion and movement. All relative to natal Uranus in Scorpio in the 11th: this soul has been collecting and cataloging scientific data (3rd house connection). This is also about his various religious exposures: being involved with different kinds of religious groups, and within these groups witnessing and experiencing the hypocrisy of the leaders and the inherent conflict between their actions and their words. As a result this soul has been impelled to totally rebel, liberate from all of this and to reject anything that seems to impose upon his own freedom of thought, his own freedom to come to his own conclusions and live the life the way he wants to. However the crisis of all of this is that he was in a constant state of movement, reactivity and anxiety.

One thing I intuitively recognize here is that the combination of Uranus sn in the 1st with Uranus
stationing retro in Scorpio in the 11th on the north node is that this soul has acted quite erratically in the past: suddenly walking away from friends, partners; anyone or any condition where he felt that his true self was being limited or inhibited in some way. This walking away would have been traumatic and feel like abandonment to many of this friends and partners since it would have come by surprise, seemingly out of no where. The fact of this Uranus stationing retrograde means that this soul was beginning to come to terms with its past, instead of reacting to the dynamics that have been projected upon as limiting and confining.  

The intended evolutionary development for this soul with Uranus north node placed in Gemini in the 7th house would be to open up to relationships with people from all different kinds of cosmological perspectives and points of views: to be able to gauge perspective from other human beings without being traumatized by their views. As I do understand this, this in part implies a reintegration into relationships where the intent is to hear another objectively, to learn listening skills that would enable this soul to become open to more perspectives that he otherwise could not have accessed on his own. Relative to his own personal future as an expression of his natural individuated self, it reflects an inherent curiosity and innocence - where answers are not already pre-determined and pre-decided upon, but rather the question and the inherent openness to all of life and an awe of what he cannot understand leads the way (mercury in Pisces in the 3rd squaring that node). The Uranus north node clearly emphasizes a new relationship to all the Pisces in the 3rd whereby this soul is ultimately moving towards greater humility and surrender to the mystery as a foundation before having answers about the mystery.

Uranus is the ruler of the south node of Neptune in Aquarius in the 2nd house which is conjunct Chiron and square the nodes. This connection points to a strong history in this soul of having developed technologies and thought patterns that reflected an over valuing of the human brain. His self esteem was firmly rooted in his intelligence to the point that the mind replaced God. He granted himself permission to create and invent in whatever way he saw fit (Chiron square to sn in Taurus in the 5th, Venus in Aries, sn of Uranus in 1st). He gave himself permission to experiment and fulfill whatever scientific impulses he deemed necessary for his own sense of personal self discovery. This caused trauma to the organism of life on this planet in some way and to other people because of the disregard and disrespect for the unity and interconnectedness of life. There is a deep guilt within his soul as a result and as we know this soul has also experienced great sexual/emotional trauma that has impacted his own self esteem.

As a result, there is a dynamic of overcompensation within this soul: acting as if he is confident within himself and even alienating himself from others as a mechanism of self protection, while at the core actually feeling devastatingly different and that he does not inherently belong. Deep inside, this soul has desired to be understood and met on a deep level. The resolution node for Chiron being the north node in Scorpio in the 11th implies that the lead point in his evolution would be to detach and to access the true nature of his soul no matter what that looks like and what others think without being guarded with cold aloofness. Otherwise the tendency would be to hide behind a quilt of self confidence and self importance (Taurus in 5th) that is actually a cover up for deep rooted insecurity.

Lastly, a note on the sexual dynamics implied with this Uranus. This soul has been obsessed with being an observer - the only way he has been able to release himself from the inhibitions of self observation and thought was through completely intense and all consuming sexual pleasure that would essential take him beyond the level of thought into pure biological/bodily experience. This would provide temporarily relief and relaxation for the mind (Uranus/Aquarius combined with all of the sexual astrological archetypes).
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Jan 11, 2014, 09:57 AM
Hi Ari,

First, thanks so much for taking the time to continue your work on our Planetary Method. Both Gray and Upasika have said they wish to continue as well on this next step of Uranus. I will wait one more week to see if either will send in their work before I review/ comment on your work. After a week, if their work is not yet ready to be posted, I will wait for them to do so before moving on to our last segment: Neptune.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Jan 11, 2014, 11:33 PM
Hi Rad,

I had marked this coming week to get a start on Uranus, and am a little behind but will definitely get going on it sometime then. Will either post at the end of the week, or get back to you near the end with an update on my progress, which hopefully shouldn't be too far away from finishing at that point.

thanks, Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Gray on Jan 17, 2014, 01:16 AM
Rad,

I want you to know that I am taking this segment on Uranus seriously and have been working on it, but have been thinking and reflecting about it more so than writing at this point. I am hoping to now create enough time to get some significant writing done, as I sense there is an extraordinary amount of material to cover about Darwin's Uranus- I am hoping to at least capture some of it.  I hope I can have something posted by this upcoming Sunday.

Thank you again for all of your guidance and feedback,
Gray
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Jan 17, 2014, 07:33 AM
Hi Gray,

Ok, thanks for letting me know. I will wait for your post before reviewing the others.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Jan 20, 2014, 04:41 AM
Hi Rad,

Just a quick note re where I'm up to - not ready to post yet, but am underway and am hoping to sometime this week.

thanks Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Jan 20, 2014, 07:57 AM
Hi Upasika,

Thanks for letting me know. If you can actually post by the end of this week then I will wait to review the work of, Ari, and Gray as well.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Gray on Jan 21, 2014, 11:24 PM
Charles Darwin and his 11th House URANUS in Scorpio

In Evolutionary Astrology Uranus correlates with long term Soul memories, like an individuated unconscious, that wind up conditioning consciousness, including conscious behaviors and thoughts.  These long term Soul memories can include trauma, not only personal trauma but shared group trauma, both of which apply to the Soul incarnated as Charles Darwin.  With a Uranus in Scorpio, part of the Soul trauma carried by Darwin would involve betrayal from relationships and in the 11th house this could be extended into groups, organizations, and society.  The Scorpio 11th House combination could also involve him having desire to cross taboo boundary lines of society yet fear rejection, punishment, or exile if actualizing aspects of his true nature that cross societal taboo lines.  Uranus in Scorpio could also relate to power struggles and issues, such as being on the receiving end of abuse, being the abuser, or developing a relational complex of imbalanced assertion of will because of a fear or expectation of a power struggle.  Uranus in Scorpio would carry and process this Soul trauma in the emotional body, and with the additional 11th house influence Darwin would be able to utilize times of depression to detach and ultimately break free from such past Soul conditioning.  Uranus in Scorpio would also carry an ability for in depth emotional processing and understanding that could enable Darwin to penetrate to the core of the reasons behind why he had become conditioned in the manner that he had.

Significantly, Uranus also correlates to what Jeff Green called the "freedom from the known," a liberating dynamic that can help break a Soul free from inhibitions that have held back its evolution.  With a Scorpio Uranus conjunct the North Node of the Moon in the 11th House, Uranus carries a strong liberating force in the chart of Charles Darwin, as it has numerous significant aspects including a trine to the Mercury-Ceres-Pluto conjunction in Pisces in Darwin's third house.  As a result, Darwin had the opportunity in his lifetime to integrate the deep learning linked to his strong Soul history of desire to name and classify aspects of phenomenal reality while accumulating vast amounts of knowledge (Mercury balsamic conjunct Pluto in third house) in order to find ultimate meaning in the form of the unity found within Nature (Mercury-Ceres-Pluto conjunct in Pisces).  The liberating impact of his Scorpio Uranus on his North Node of the Moon evolutionary development would therefore coincide with the evolution toward his Pluto polarity point of Virgo in the 9th House, which included a meaning of his evolutionary purpose being linked to his work in the world that would structure all of his vast observations and knowledge into a unifying theory expressing an ultimate truth regarding nature and phenomenal reality.  As a result, his Scorpio Uranus is a very important dynamic in his development of evolutionary theory and the "Origin of Species." 

We can see this in part through breaking down the trine aspects between Scorpio Uranus in the 11th House and all of the Pisces in his third house.  First, the Scorpio in the 11th House indicates a lesson of learning to merge with others and other systems of knowledge into society and culture in order to help liberate others from inhibiting conditioning factors, for example in Darwin's case this would include helping to liberate others from religious conditioning concerning Creation.  Pisces Mercury being in an almost exact first quarter trine to Scorpio Uranus exemplifies his ingenious mind that was capable of intense insights penetrating to the core of phenomenal reality, at times through his emotional body and intuition in a way that stands in contrast to the stereotype of an overly rational scientist- yet with Scorpio Uranus in a disseminating trine to his Pisces Pluto, Darwin was meant to figure out how to communicate these insights this lifetime into a form that would be accepted and understood by the general public in the society and culture of his birth (as we have discussed, there are many factors in his chart assisting him in this purpose such as his Libra Mars in his 10th House and his Capricorn Moon in his 2nd House).

With an Aquarius Chiron in his 2nd House in square to his lunar nodes, it means in Evolutionary Astrology that Darwin has a skipped step of having been on both sides of this nodal polarity in past lifetimes, both on the Scorpio 11th House side and the Taurus 5th House side.  His Aquarius Chiron is ruled by his Scorpio Uranus, as well as being in a first quarter square to his Scorpio Uranus, and so his Scorpio Uranus is a key factor in this past Soul pattern that is unresolved and includes the impact of the correlation Uranus has with shared trauma on Darwin's mind and its connection to his body, and ability to securely live and express himself from his authentic inner values.  His Taurus South Node in the 5th House, ruled by an Aries Venus at the end of his 3rd House and conjunct his IC, correlates to his Soul history of isolating away from society in order to pursue his Soul desire and sense of having a special destiny to complete that included collecting as much observation and knowledge as possible from his personal environment as well as through exploration of other geographic locations and cultures, such as in the past life as the sea explorer William Dampier.  Darwin's Soul memories and patterns involve a lot of self-reliance, also shown through him having a South Node of Uranus in Sagitarius in his 1st House, as a coping mechanism for deep Soul memories of experiencing extreme trauma as a consequence of having merged with another loved one or relationship, a group of like-minded individuals, or an outside source of power.  As a result, with a Scorpio Uranus conjunct a Scorpio North Node of the Moon in the 11th house, and a North Node of Uranus in Gemini in his 7th House conjunct Black Moon Lilith, despite triggers of unconscious and conscious trauma Darwin would be called to go back into or persist through feelings of trauma in order to leave self-isolation and integrate into society, risking betrayal and rejection by merging his being with others in society, forming intimate relationships, and creating collaborative friendships and working relationships with others in social groups and organizations.  Since the ruler of his Taurus South Node is an Aries Venus (end of 3rd House conjunct IC) that is gibbous inconjunct his Scorpio Uranus, Darwin's experience of this trauma could be jarring and shattering to his emotional body, but ultimately a necessary crisis to persevere through and problem solve in order to make the necessary internal adjustments that would allow him to complete his sense of a special destiny in scientific theory.  Thus his Aries Venus would help him serve the needs of society instead of his own purely selfish needs.

As we have already discussed how his Capricorn Moon in his 2nd House gave him a moment-to-moment assistance in how to navigate successfully through societal norms and responsibilities in order to facilitate his integration into society, it is also important to reflect upon the fact his Capricorn Moon is in a crescent quintile aspect to his Scorpio Uranus.  As his Scorpio Uranus is conjunct his North Node of the Moon and part of his evolutionary purpose, this Capricorn Moon quintile gave him the ability to internally individualize his evolutionary purpose despite the inherent nature of a crescent phase aspect that can involve fighting off the "ghosts of the past."  Thus the type of shattering events that could be associated with his Scorpio Uranus, including traumatic ones, in the end could have led to a creatively transforming process in which Darwin could internally integrate his new purpose in order to ultimately express it into society through external action and events.  So even his times of great depression, which at times could be directly connected to utterly heart breaking events such as the death of both his own mother and his own beloved daughter, could in the end have led him to internally question and break free from limiting conditioning on his thoughts, emotions, and behaviors that were at the same time also connected to his deep Soul memories, including unconscious traumatic memories.  However, this could be an extremely debilitating and difficult experience for Darwin at points in his life, giving a feeling that he may not even be able to pull through to the other side of his despair, and is one of the reasons why Darwin appeared depressive and melancholic to others at times, and also had a tendency to stress and tax his being into illness.

This same capacity of Darwin's to individualize his evolutionary purpose aligns with him being in the third individuated stage, as well as the fact that he had a Pluto in Pisces that could resist the Pisces desire to merge with Source at times through obsessively focusing on individualizing characteristics that would give him a clearer sense of an individuated identity.  Thus, even though having not only a Pluto, but also a Mercury, Ceres, Juno, and Jupiter would all align with desire to merge with Source, including a Soul history of having done so, at the same time there would be an attraction to this merging there would also be a repulsion to it, eventually leading to some sort of crisis or implosion that would reveal to himself his resistance to merge.  Having all of this Pisces, including his Pluto, also in his 3rd House also involve an attraction/repulsion dynamic that would lead to cyclic implosions through which he would become aware of any limitations or stagnation in his intellectual understanding and organization of phenomenal reality.  With the Pluto Pisces signature, he would at times have been obsessively fixated on some of these intellectual identities in order to give himself a sense of an identity separate from Source- and in this process it would often be events correlating with his Scorpio Uranus in his 11th house conjunct his North Node of the Moon that would create implosions and shattering moments of epiphany concerning identities and intellectual frameworks he would need to liberate from.  We can see this in the lifetime of Charles Darwin through the numerous intellectual identities he took on at a young age and then discarded completely, for example being a medical student as well as pursuing religious studies to join the clergy.  The fact Darwin somehow managed to figure out how to get on board a ship sailing back to some of the same geographic locations that William Dampier also traveled to and recorded observations about is an example of how the deep Soul memories of his Scorpio Uranus managed to guide Darwin at times, no matter how unconscious he was of them.

Yet, while the trine between his Scorpio Uranus and his Mercury-Ceres-Pluto in Pisces gave him an opportunity to integrate his deep Soul memories into his work in the world, the first quarter sesquiquadrate aspect between his Pisces Jupiter in his third house and his Scorpio Uranus  meant that the revealing of these deep Soul memories could coincide with humiliating events and experiences meant to force Darwin to re-adjust and transform his past Soul desires that were overly willful and self-absorbed into patterns and intentions that were aligned to a much greater extent with the actual needs of his society. For example, as Rad has identified the sea explorer William Dampier as being one of the past identities of this Soul, we can see in Dampier the personality of a willful pirate and explorer who was ultimately out for himself, choosing to isolate himself away from society on the high sea, and even come into conflict with the law of society through accusations of cruelty against members of his own sailing crew.  In other past lifetimes this Soul would have had other experiences of self-absorbed pursuits of personal desire with little consideration for the needs of the surrounding society, and so in the lifetime of Charles Darwin he was meant to re-shape the willfulness of his Aries Venus ruling his South Node of the Moon in Taurus into greater awareness of the needs of the whole surrounding community.  While Darwin retained his competitive Aries Venus fire of wanting to be the figurehead of a groundbreaking evolutionary theory, through humbling and humiliating experiences correlating with his Scorpio Uranus, his Pisces Jupiter (3rd House) ability to construct a theory of ultimate understanding out of his direct experiences and observations in phenomenal reality could be re-focused at times on serving the needs of society and his social environment to a greater extent.  Whenever Darwin faced obstacles or resistance to the implementation of his purpose and work in society, his Pisces Jupiter in sesquiquadrate to his Scorpio Uranus could make use of his difficulties through ultimately making his intellectual framework a more pragmatic benefit to society.

Analyzing the South Node of Darwin's Uranus in Sagitarius in his 1st House will help us get a stronger sense for the past Soul memories that correlate with his natal Uranus in Scorpio.  Darwin's South Node of Uranus is closely conjunct the asteroid Kassandra, and is more widely conjunct the South Node of Mars, all in his 1st House.  Being in Sagitarius in his 1st house while also being conjunct the South Node of his Mars, we can see further signs here of Soul memories of having a strong instinctual and willful nature that would want to pursue and take action on its own desires more so than in consideration of the needs of others or society.  This is further shown through Darwin's South Node of Sagitarius being in trine to his Aries Venus, the ruler of his South Node of Taurus in his 5th House.  Since the South Node of Darwin's Uranus is in square to all of his Pisces in his third house (Mercury, Ceres, Pluto, Juno, and Jupiter), we can see that in his lifetime as Charles Darwin he was meant to take this past self-absorbed and willful nature and enter in communication and debate with others, come into contact with other cultures and other worldviews, and learn how to focus his evolutionary purpose through his work in a way that would help him meet the needs of society to a much greater extent.  With Pisces Juno as part of this square we can even see how his intellectual debates and discussions with his wife could be part of this evolutionary purpose, but on a larger scale the enormous magnitude of intellectual debate stirred up by Darwin's evolutionary theory and the innumerable individual arguments and intense discussions Darwin would have had with countless intellectual peers and other members of society on his path toward developing his groundbreaking theory would all have correlated with the meaning of his Pisces third house stellium squaring the South Node of his Uranus.  Since the asteroid Kassandra is conjunct his South Node of Uranus, it also brings in the meaning from the Kassandra myth that Darwin would carry soul memories of having important information to share with his society in past lives, but would have lacked the ability to make others listen to him or take his advice, guidance, or knowledge seriously.  In this way, the square to Kassandra and his South Node of Uranus from all of his Pisces in his 3rd House (Mercury, Ceres, Pluto, Juno, Jupiter) would correlate with his obsessive desire to exhaustively support his intellectual theory with detailed and copious research that would be so convincing that he would have to have his ideas taken seriously by society.  His additional compulsion to make sure he was ultimately seen as the progenitor of biological evolutionary theory correlates with the South Node of his Uranus being in trine to his Aries Venus, the ruler of his South Node of Taurus in his 5th House- here we can see his deep Soul memories of willfully pursuing a sense of his own special destiny expressed through his Aries Venus exploration of scientific observation and study, intellectual understanding, and communication into wider society.  However, with the other aspects to his Aries Venus such as it being inconjunct his Scorpio Uranus and in sextile to his North Node of Uranus in his 7th House, his willful Aries Venus would ultimately focus on serving the greater needs of the world.

Another significant aspect to Darwin's South Node of Uranus is even more important when we look at his North Node of Uranus- the true node of Black Moon Lilith.  Black Moon Lilith is opposite Darwin's South Node of Uranus, and new phase conjunct his North Node of Uranus.  This is another sign of trauma in connection to the deep Uranian Soul memories of Darwin, a feeling of having been rejected and possibly exiled.  Part of the willful nature of Darwin's past Soul memories seen through the South Node of his Uranus, can be understood through the opposition of Black Moon Lilith- perhaps out of a feeling of having been rejected or misunderstood, the Soul of Darwin developed a mistrust of society and ultimately lost a sense of care or compassion for the greater needs of society, seeing society as more of a threat or something to resist or fight against.  However, as the evolutionary direction of Darwin's Uranus, his North Node of Uranus, is conjunct the true node of Black Moon Lilith, it means that the resolution for this past trauma is to risk betrayal or rejection of society and relationships with a wide variety of people in society, through integrating himself into society while articulating and communicating his message and intellectual understanding exemplified by his incredible stellium of planets in his third house.  In the work of astrologer Demetra George, Black Moon Lilith is the "resolution" phase of the Lilith archetype involving transmutation and transformation of past wounds in a process similar to the dark moon phase of the Moon.  This is a process of creation through destruction, and linked to the North Node of Uranus means a healing of past Soul wounds and trauma through the cutting away of false needs and delusions that are not authentic.  This means the evolutionary trajectory of Darwin's Scorpio Uranus called for him to step into relationships with the world through his own integrity, expressing his true authentic nature without a need to manipulate acceptance or security from others, or isolate his true nature away from others for fear of rejection.  A Dark Goddess, experiences correlating with Black Moon Lilith being conjunct Darwin's North Node of Uranus could have taken him into his own inner darkness and depression, but the "why" behind this was for Darwin to uncover personal delusions and illusions, places where he may have been clinging to false needs or denying his true needs, in the end learning to integrate his Soul purpose into relationships with others while expressing his own needs and listening to the needs of others. Connected to this could be his own personal connection or experience with Source or God, including his sense of what it means to merge with Source, in comparison to the dominant societal perspective on God and religious thought- especially since Darwin's North Node of Uranus is square to Virgo Lucifer in his 9th House and is in a wide opposition to his Sagitarius Neptune and Saturn in his 12th House. The Virgo Lucifer square in particular could make Darwin's Uranus evolution to his North Node of Uranus in Gemini in his 7th House contain a lot of self-doubt and guilt, blaming himself for not being good enough or questioning his own beliefs and perceptions as not good enough- in particular with Virgo Lucifer also square his Gemini Black Moon Lilith.  Just as he at one point confessed to a colleague that developing his intellectual theories felt like "confessing to a murder," so would the implications of his theories on consensus religious thought and ideas of God also create inner doubt and guilt at times in Darwin.  Yet with his Sagitarius Neptune balsamic conjunct Saturn in his 12th House in opposition to his North Node of Uranus and in square to his Virgo Lucifer, part of his evolutionary journey with Uranus was to clear out his own Soul history of religious conditioning and to shift his Virgo Lucifer to the "bearer of light" aspect (in particular as his Virgo Lucifer is at the polarity point of his Pisces Pluto) to a belief in himself that he can have the perceptions concerning Nature and Creation that he had, to believe in himself and seek solutions to his problems instead of having 7th House types of confrontations lead him into guilt, blame, and giving up.  Of course, as we have previously discussed an additional aid in him breaking free of past conditioning would be his soul purpose of an Aquarius Sun conjunct Pallas Athena that is ruled by his Scorpio Uranus.

The Aquarius Chiron of Darwin is significant not only as his skipped step, but also as a facilitator of this nodal axis of his Uranus.  Although his Aquarius Chiron is square to his natal Uranus, and resolving toward the conjunction of his North Node of the Moon conjunct Uranus in Scorpio, there are harmonious aspects between his South Node and Noth Node of Uranus with Chiron-  his South Node of Uranus is in sextile to his Aquarius Chiron, and his North Node of Uranus  is in trine to his Aquarius Chiron.  As a result, the "wounded healer" aspect of Chiron is in full effect in Darwin's chart, with his Aquarius Chiron stirring up wounds with his Scorpio Uranus while at the same time activating the "liberator" aspect of Uranus through giving the opportunity to facilitate an integration of his deep Uranus Soul memories through the sextile to the South Node of Uranus and the trine to the North Nod of Uranus.  His Aquarius Chiron in his second house at its "highest" level could help process the Soul trauma stirred up through various events and experiences in his life, to help Darwin persist through to the lessons of relationship and integration into society shown through his North Node of Uranus in Gemini in his 7th House and Scorpio Uranus conjunct his North Node of the Moon in his 11th House.  Thus some of the devastating trauma Darwin experienced in his lifetime, such as the death of his mother and daughter, would be shocks to such a great extent that it would force him in an Aquarian way to ultimately come to more of a detached analysis of his beliefs and inner values and perceptions, in order to help him cope with his emotional reactions and depression.  In this way he could use the detached nature of his Aquarius Chiron to help heal the connection between his mind and body- in past lives and his Soul history, the detached aspect shown by Aquarius Chiron as a skipped step could have made his mind so detached, and wrapped up in his own selfish and willful pursuits we have also discussed, that he could have developed and acted from values and beliefs that did not take into account the needs of his environment and society and ultimately created great guilt his Soul would carry forward into subsequent incarnations.  The willful focus on a special destiny aspect of his Soul history, shown through a 2nd House Aquarius Chiron, also could have been about an intense focus on his own survival needs at the cost of the needs of others.  As a result, all of the many conflicts and shocks that Charles Darwin experienced in his lifetime correlating in part through his Scorpio Uranus in a first quarter square to Aquarius Chiron, ultimately would have forced him to take into account the needs of others while at the same time he learned to manage triggering feelings of trauma enough to persist through into integrating his inventive ideas and theories into society in a manner that would help meet the needs of society and help others break free of their own limiting conditioning of belief and mind.  With this first quarter square aspect, the form Darwin created aligned with the heroic mentor and healer aspect of Chiron, in the way in which Darwin's evolutionary theories and observational work in science was attuned to the medicine contained in every aspect of his surrounding natural environment, drawing upon the observational power of Aquarius to note and record variations in species and environment and analyze in an Aquarian manner the reasons "why.".  Darwin also grew into a mentor type of figure for other scientists, researchers, philosophers, and intellectuals who wanted to break free of the confines of past conditioned thought.

love,
Gray
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Jan 22, 2014, 04:50 AM
Hi Rad, that should be possible so I'll aim for that, Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Jan 26, 2014, 04:51 PM
Hi Rad,

Most of it's done but it has been busy as usual, and have become very tired recently, so will have rest for a day and continue after that. Sorry I didn't quite make it by the end of the week. But I'll be posting in a couple of days, 3 at the most.

thanks Upasika

Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Jan 27, 2014, 07:27 AM
Hi Upasika,

Ok, thanks for letting me know.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Jan 31, 2014, 12:33 AM
Hi Rad,

Thanks very much for waiting.

       
          Why is Darwin's Uranus in Scorpio in the 11th House?

The Soul exists very deeply within us, and generally speaking most of us simply do not have any waking awareness of our Soul. This prompted Gurdjieff, a mystic who was born about 16 years before Darwin died, to always say that a person isn't born with a Soul, that they only have a Soul once they have created it by working to develop more awareness of themselves. However this is not true, and no doubt Gurdjieff knew it wasn't. But the point still stands "¦ if no-one is ever there to see or hear a certain tree in a faraway forest falling, or see it fallen, does the tree actually fall at all? If we have no awareness of anything like a "Soul" in us, do we actually have a Soul? Well, putting the question of the tree aside, as far as the Soul is concerned, then fortunately yes - we do.

But what is the Soul? In a most simplistic allegory each Soul is a tiny piece of the "Source", a tiny piece of "All That Is". And the Source of everything obviously has consciousness itself because there is consciousness in the universe, in the creation. And the Source must be immutable, indestructible, as there can be nothing to destroy it. And so the Soul, being a part of the Source, in essence is an indestructible consciousness. Additionally each Soul has an innate uniqueness - imbibes a unique flavour of the Source (for lack of a better expression) - giving each Soul consciousness an individual "identity".

The Soul exists at the most unconscious level of our being, and within the Soul are desires. Many desires to try and move away from the Source (of which the Soul is a "tiny part") and thus appear "separate"; and a core desire to merge back into the Source, so that any sense of separation is dissolved completely. Evolution of the Soul (Pluto) involves exhausting all these separating desires, and then finally fulfilling the remaining core desire to return to the Source, to merge back into it. On Earth this is accomplished by the Soul constantly incarnating into a human body, and selecting certain desires to be fulfilled in each life according to the Soul's intentions for that life regarding the exhausting of all desires. The desires that are selected are then held in our being in blueprint form at an individually unconscious level (Uranus) - waiting to unfold in our future. Over time as required by the Soul, these desires are released from this unconscious level into our primitive, instinctive awareness (Mars).  

A cognizant centre exists within our being which consciously registers these desires as they are released through Mars. This centre, which we call "I", has two parts. The Sun is the yang and fully conscious part of this centre. With its beaming vitality the Sun is the most conscious part of our being, directing our actions according to our perceptions and situation. However if the Sun is weakened at any point our confidence can become easily diminished to the same extent, and if it stops functioning our very life becomes threatened. Our Sun operates in the present on an on-going basis, and is therefore relatively very constant ("I am"). This gives us a certain individualistic sense of ourselves, although it is not necessarily subjective.

The Moon is the yin and semi-conscious part of this centre we call "I". Because life is an energised series of events (both externally and internally) this is constantly producing change. It is on a semi-conscious level via our feelings and emotions that we process this constant change, and so our feelings and emotions (Venus/Moon) are likewise always changing according to our circumstances - thus this part of our being is always very personal and subjective. Sitting below these changing feelings and emotions however is an emotionally-based image of our self that we can internally "see/feel", which creates a sense of our self that we instinctively try to keep as constant as possible (Moon). As well as our outer am-ness we need this consistent inner Moon based sense of who we are (our ego), regardless of what other changes might be going on in us, or around us externally, because without having any inner sense of who we are to a greater or lesser extent most of us would be stranded in a sea of swirling emotion, making us really uneasy and very, very insecure. This centre of our consciousness with both its parts gives us an everyday identity, which reflects the much deeper identity of the Soul itself.

Generally we feel safe if our inner image of ourselves, our ego, isn't impacted by events so drastically that it is disrupted or invalidated. It doesn't change if the feelings arising within move in a steady flow through us, allowing us to gradually modify our self-image in tune with the changes in our life. But if one or more feelings become uncomfortable to the extent its flow slows significantly or stops altogether, a build-up of emotion then occurs and depending on our consciousness, this may force our self-image to have to change in a stressful way.

Another reason that it is at a semi-conscious Moon level that consistency is so important to us, is that it is here that we experience the constantly shifting point of tension between our entire known past and our total unknown future in every moment. Generally, we simply do not have enough consciousness to feel secure at this huge juncture inside us, without something relatively "solid" inside us to relate to, and that is what our self-image provides us with. Therefore as each moment is happening it is through the Moon that we feel inwardly anchored, and thus stable overall.

As each desire selected for the current life is released from our unconscious (Uranus) activating our instincts (Mars), the Sun registers it and then creates a relevant purpose in our current life situation (whatever that may be at the time) for this desire, so that it can be integrated into our life. As we consciously integrate a new desire into our current life (via the Sun) we adapt our internal image of ourselves to include any new feelings and emotional content that this desire stimulates in us (Moon), and this completes the integration of the desire. The desire is now consciously active in our life and as it's pursued new experience is generated, ideally from which we learn and grow.

However as we saw in the posts on Saturn, we never operate in a vacuum. In the current life - based on the life dynamics that have accumulated in the Soul over prior lifetimes - Saturn defines our overall psychological structure, and it is within this structure that all other conscious functions operate. Therefore if Saturn isn't functioning healthily all the other conscious functions (e.g. Mercury, Venus etc.) suffer, are impaired to some extent in their functioning too. Additionally Saturn correlates to all forms: to matter itself (and thus time and space) and to all structures and patterns - social (values, beliefs, customs, norms, rules, laws and taboos of the culture we live in); personal (all expectations, obligations etc. from family, friends and others) and psychological (inhibitions, fears, and blocks). Life stops being so simple when we are subjected to all these things on a daily basis, all having the potential to compromise our natural response to life, and to mould us in certain ways, to condition us. So it's very important that Saturn functions positively in our lives.

Positive functioning of Saturn includes physical self-preservation, being responsible, creating and managing goals, making correct judgements, and reflection leading to self-understanding. However due to emotional insecurity, another function Saturn is invariably involved in for most of us is the protection of the ego (Moon), which reflects the Cancer/Capricorn polarity. Therefore it creates a psychological casing around the ego through its defensive structuring of the body, emotions and mind, and this becomes our inner protection. Saturn correlates to the reality of the senses and so its functioning is conscious, yet because of this association it has with the Moon this inner protective functioning of Saturn often becomes deeply habit driven (Moon rules habits). A habit is a semi-conscious routine which means this protection of the ego that Saturn tries to create tends to become an automatic reaction, usually so much so that we lose consciousness of it - it then operates on "auto-pilot". This now sets up a hidden dynamic within us that to varying extents limits our openness and controls our responses "¦ subtlety suppressing anything that would require us to alter our self-image, our sense of our self, in an uncomfortable way. Thus the potential to learn from our experiences becomes diluted and restricted.

All psychological content supressed in this way is stored in our individual unconscious (Uranus) - along with all the desires selected by the Soul to be fulfilled in this life. And additionally there is a third kind of content in our unconscious - and that is all the distant events we have forgotten about in our current life, and memories of everything that has happened to us from all our past lives - all our long term, and ultra-long term memories. So there is more content (as images, pictures, emotions, psychological complexes etc.) in our unconscious than in our waking consciousness! It is so much more who we really are than our daily sense of who we are (our "I"), and so for most it naturally influences approximately 80% of all our waking behaviour. Our individual unconscious is a vast world of its own, and therefore a correspondingly huge amount of our energy is contained in it. All the energy trapped in our unconsciousness makes it unstable, and so consequently content is always trying to release itself into our consciousness. But because Saturn tries to encase our ego, our "I", in a psychologically closed shell, to keep what we are conscious of limited to that which feels consistent - and thus safe and stable - very little content from our unconscious can be released in our normal waking state. Therefore normally it only happens when we dream at night, or when we daydream during the day, or when we are extremely over-tired, or when we meditate, or when our inhibitions are lessened (for example in therapy, or we have had too much to drink or taken drugs).

It is easy to see what a balancing act this all is. At the deepest most unconscious level we have the most torturous spiritual anguish inside us - what and who am I? - am I separate to everything or not? We also have the memories building up inside us, of everything that we have ever done or that has ever happened to us over countless prior lives. These memories have been instrumental in the selection of desires by the Soul for this life, now lying in seed form inside us waiting to be revealed via our instincts and then consciously integrated into our life. We also have our conscious sense of our self, our egocentric awareness of "I", "me", that we think and feel is all that we are - even if it seems somehow that a great deal is missing from this picture - with an on-going urge to keep this sense of self secure so that we can feel relaxed. Then obviously we have our basic physical needs of food, clothing and shelter to be met from within our environment, and beyond that we need to create situations that facilitate the pursuit of the desires we feel currently motivated by. All this must be done within the massive amount of social structuring that exists in the culture in which we live, which entails various levels of involvement with other people on an on-going basis, not just for practical reasons, but also for procreation and other activities, as part of our basic imperative to seek pleasure and happiness and avoid pain and unhappiness.

Each of us goes about managing this great balancing act called "our life" in our own way, in our own style, according to our individual makeup. So we create our "lifestyle" which reflects the way we have decided to balance all these aspects of our life for optimal functionality in a way that reflects us as an individual. This balancing of things from the depth of our unconscious to the most trivial of circumstances in our daily life to our total unknown future, all reflected symbolically in our lifestyle, correlates to Aquarius the water bearer - ruled by Uranus (the new), with Saturn  as a secondary ruler. And Saturn (the past) is also the ruler of Capricorn. These two planets are diametrically opposed, and the intensity of such polarity and the fact that this polarity is occurring in each moment, is what creates the need for us to manage the resulting tension. And for most it is something that needs to be managed (otherwise madness would sooner or later overwhelm us) so we do - in each moment. Firstly through the Moon's ability to inwardly anchor us in each moment through our self-image, our sense of being something constant, thus creating an inner focus from which we are emotionally present. We then further deal with this tension between the past and future in a more extended way through our daily and other functioning (shown by all the other planets except the Sun).

Additional to all this, constant movement and growth (Jupiter) is intrinsic to life. And as a result if it wasn't for the constraining quality of Saturn our life would forever expand without limits (Jupiter) and eventually it would career out of control. So Saturn provides us with control and this allows us to stabilize. This is all well and good but what happens as a result depends on the choices we make.  

If we balance the amount of control we create and impose in our life with an openness to moving in new ways - new ways of expressing ourselves, being open to consider new opportunities (Jupiter), an openness to experimenting and innovating (Uranus) with how we ourselves or our lives are structured (Saturn), then we will be better able to pursue the desires we need to in order to learn the lessons we came here to learn (Pluto). This in turn will create experiences that over time are likely to lead to the development, understanding, resolution and culmination we need, in whatever areas of life that we need it, to keep moving forward with new more meaningful and relevant desires and thus keep growing at a Soul level (Pluto). Learning our lessons is not always easy, but keeping our eyes on the goal that matters the most in any life always helps - the sign and house of the Pluto/Moon's NN conjunction if it exists in the chart, or otherwise of the PPP. If we have reached that in ourselves and expressed it in our life, whatever it is, when we die we can die in peace - we have achieved what we came to do. But letting go into the new (Uranus), naturally produces (sometimes very big) feelings of insecurity - to the extent that we step outside of our comfort zone, away from our current sense of self. And therefore it always creates a heightened sense of aliveness (because of the perceived danger), and it also can create excitement, great exhilaration and joy.  

For many however the desire for security (Moon/Saturn) is such a strong force that it becomes difficult to moderate this pattern of controlling things in our lives and in ourselves, and over time it itself becomes out of control. This has the effect of sealing off everything in our unconscious, and then life cannot flow in us anymore - no movement or growth. As time passes we continue to gather life energy every day - through sunshine, air, water, food, exercise and sleep. Yet the structures (Saturn) we have put in place prevent this energy flowing into an expression in our life - it simply accumulates in our unconscious (Uranus) gathering in power (Pluto stagnation). As a result our life gradually becomes less colorful and inspiring, more grey and drab, and then gradually more dysfunctional as we become more and more miserable, and if nothing changes then eventually we may become depressed.

At this point if we at least spend our time meditatively, and/or reach out to family and friends or seek other kind of help, it may bring about the necessary reflection and understanding from which we can see our difficulties, repressions and blocks more clearly, and thus see what changes need to happen internally, externally (or both). And despite our fears, having this clarity may be enough for us to allow those changes to happen, or if necessary to actively bring those changes about. Once the energy in the unconscious is released, takes a new form, deep relief from the intense internal pressure of stagnation, conflict or pain occurs. As we process all the feelings and emotions released because of the change we can start rebuilding a new inner sense of our self, which will then become reflected in changes in our outer life. This choice is not one of totally resisting growth; rather it is leaving growth for as long as we can until we cannot sanely resist it anymore.

However if we continue on unendingly with total resistance to any movement or change, due to unrelenting attachment to the security of the past and the familiar (Moon), because of fear of anything unknown (Saturn), then at a key point a core Uranus function will be activated (the complete shattering of structures blocking Soul growth) and our unconscious will erupt producing a cataclysmic event in our lives. This will result in immediate and usually massive change, an enormous release of energy from past forms, an explosion of the new into being. The utter shock (Uranus) usually means we cannot process the complex entanglement of thoughts, feelings and emotions brought into play. It can also shatter the sense we have of ourselves so badly, that we may never fully recover it, and thus in rare cases possibly leading to mental illness of some kind. Even in the average scenario, all this will naturally create really deep, intense on-going trauma (Uranus), which itself may be too painful and overwhelming to fully experience, in which case we will have no choice but to suppress it (Saturn). Paradoxically, this itself will be pushing fresh material back down into the basement of our mind, out of conscious reach again (Uranus).    

There are different kinds of trauma (Uranus). For instance there is individual trauma which can be personal (as above) or impersonal (e.g. losing a loved one in an earthquake), and there is group trauma (e.g. a race or social group being persecuted). Regardless of the kind of trauma, if an experience is traumatic (too threatening, distressing, painful or terrifying to cope with at the time it occurs) some or all of that experience will be suppressed (Saturn) - pushed unprocessed into the unconscious and thus hidden and immobilised (Uranus).

Usually, in fact, suppressed psychological material is being added to the unconscious on an ongoing basis. Some material keeps accumulating all the time - this is our long term memories (including memories of all our traumas, even after the traumas themselves have been healed). Plus for example, regarding the cataclysmic change/eruption in one's life described above resulting in a clearing out of much unconscious content - the trauma arising from all these changes (which are necessary and good in themselves) may so easily become new material that is freshly suppressed. But material can also come from other kinds of trauma, plus greater or lesser suppression of general items of personal experience on a continuing basis. And all this causes pressure in the unconscious to start rebuilding anew. And sooner or later it will have to be released again in a way similar to one of the example response/reaction scenarios above.

This circular process - of continued suppression leading to the concentration of the unconscious material leading to an intensification of the need for change, leading to either gradual change or cataclysmic breakthrough, and therefore new life "¦ followed by new experiences, some requiring new suppressions "¦ leading to the whole process repeating itself again .. and again, and again over many lifetimes, gradually causes great weariness to develop at a Soul level. It is in the repetitive nature of this process (resulting in the endless wheel of life and death) that we get trapped. So why do we do this? And what can break the cycle?

We do this because of fear. Some of our fears are built in and natural, for example the fear of not having physical safety. But other fears are not natural and are the result of the patriarchy, for example the fear of isolation. Examples of things that can cause us to change are frustration or despair. When frustration hits a peak or when everything seems absolutely hopeless it can dawn on us that we really need help, and that can aid us to look from a different space - one that is more open to making changes. And as part of that we reach out to others. Another thing is pain, and it comes in many forms - for example physical, emotional, and psychological. Of course we have many ways of suppressing pain too, but such deadening of our system eventually becomes its own form of pain. At some point pain can become so much that we are willing to do anything to be free from it. Pain thus draws us to ask "why" more intensely, more deeply than we ever have before. "Why" asked like this is a Pluto (Soul) questioning. The fire of our enquiry into the cause and healing of our pain can stimulate us to detach from our emotions, which gives us distance from our motivations, and thus from our desires, and this can lead to a deep penetration of the reality of our life and our self. In this position we can start to see our life more objectively, and then real insight into our life and our self can take place - and this glimpse of freedom is exceptionally liberating (Uranus). Gradually the "aha" moments become more frequent, and so many things about our self and our life start making much more sense - sometimes the shock (Uranus) of it all can cause deep laughter to erupt!

It is one thing to be trapped in life - but to not understand why can be its own additional kind of prison (Saturn). And when, through detachment, we can see our life and our self in it much more objectively (Uranus), it also becomes possible to start glimpsing our self at the actual Soul level more clearly, and then to start sensing our own core Soul dynamics. At this point true liberation from ignorance is beginning - and we can paradoxically (Uranus) feel more in control of our self than we have ever been our whole life, yet have less desire to have control. The winds of freedom (Uranus) smell sweet as well as wild - when we are finally able to be aware of ourselves as a Soul, and not just through the emotionally-based egocentric sense we have of ourselves. The Soul may be hidden deep within us, but through Uranus we can receive its messages, we can have very revealing glimpses of it, and over time can gravitate our waking consciousness to it. After all, it is simply our actual true Self.

The leap from Saturn to Uranus is a very difficult leap to take. That is why approximately 70% of any society is always in a Consensus state (ruled by Saturn) with a much smaller proportion individuating (Uranus) away from that consensus reality. Many issues regarding making the leap from Saturn to Uranus are the realm of Chiron, which orbits between Saturn and Uranus.





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Next, Uranus in the chart of Darwin "¦
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Introduction
We started this method by looking at the nature of Darwin's Soul - what it's immediate past intentions have been (Pluto), and how it attempted to fulfil those (Moon SN), where that has got the Soul immediately prior to coming into this life (Pluto) - and what it's intentions for this life are (Pluto Polarity Point - PPP) and how it will attempt to fulfil those intentions (Moon NN). Along the way we have also looked much further back into the Soul's past via the SN of Pluto and all its implications.

From Ancient suffering "¦
As we know, in those very, very distant past lives Darwin's Soul had endured great hardship and trauma, including massive survival struggles. In those lives the Soul accumulated many wounds from it's struggles to survive that progressively weakened its self-esteem and spirit - Pluto SN (distant past lives) and Saturn SN (efforts, obstacles in those lives) in Capricorn (suppression) in the 2nd house (survival, self-esteem) square (tension, resistance, blockage) Chiron SN (wounding) in Aries (of self, spirit) in the 4th house (emotions). This was when suppression of the emotional body started.

To the Present
We saw though how it eventually broke away from these kinds of lives, to many other lives which resulted in much reorientation within itself and to society in general. This then led to a series of more recent lives where it has been close to nature, being in it and observing it; at the same time having a very keen interest in developing the intellect which it simultaneously did. Throughout all these lives the Soul has naturally been growing in consciousness, and the more recent past lives have been individuating lives, so that by the time the Soul has incarnated as Darwin it was already a long way into the 3rd individuated stage (Uranus based). And now in this life the Soul's intentions are to culminate all this long history of struggle on a consensus level and growth as an individual, and to finally complete the Soul's shift from predominately using intellect to using intuition instead, from left brain to right - permanently (Pluto in 3rd house, PPP in 9th).

Everything starts with Desire
The Soul's intentions for our life are held in the unconscious (Uranus) and thus we usually have little direct knowledge of them until they arise within us as specific desires. In the early part of his life three main desires would have arisen for Darwin - firstly exploring (fire signs) nature (Sagittarius/Pisces/Taurus) and secondly developing his mind (Gemini/Sagittarius/Virgo). For these first two desires, this is because these are stemming originally from his Pluto location, and encompass so much of his chart.

Desire to explore nature - stellium in Pisces including Pluto, ruler of stellium in Sagittarius, Sagittarius ASC, Jupiter conjunct Pluto, SN Moon in Taurus 5th with ruler in Aries 3rd, Leo on the 9th house cusp where the PPP is).

Desire to explore his mind - stellium in 3rd house including Pluto, ruler of stellium in Sagittarius, Sagittarius ASC, Mercury conjunct Pluto, Uranus conjunct NN Moon, SN Moon ruler in Aries also rules the 6th house.

The third desire to arise would have been to tap into the collective thinking of his society, and as well on a personal level find cures for his pain afflicted body - Chiron in Aquarius in the 2nd house square the nodal axis in the 5th and 11th houses (skipped step).

Darwin's desires are few, old and complex
As we have seen in previous posts and mentioned above, exploring nature and using the mind were nothing new to the Soul. For instance these were the only things the Soul was doing in its last life as William Dampier - nothing else. And that Darwin chose to continue doing these things in his life was exactly right in terms of fulfilling his karmic requirements. This is because the Soul has been attempting to reach the PPP in Virgo 9th experience for many, many lifetimes now - in fact it has done so several times already. We know this because of the skipped step (Chiron) which means he has not learnt all the lessons involved in his SN Moon house, sign and aspects. Instead, because of the trauma he has experienced in the past, he has tried to take shortcuts with learning his Soul lessons in the way required by the Soul, by jumping from the Moon SN to the Moon NN before having completed learning all that needed to be learnt at the Moon SN. And in doing this he has automatically opened up the PPP area of experience, which usually is naturally stimulated whenever the Moon's NN is activated. However such shortcuts with evolutionary necessity only work temporarily and he has had to revert back. This cycle would have occurred many times over many lives - we can see this because the PPP is in the natural Sagittarius house, which is naturally ruled by Jupiter, and Jupiter is in a new conjunction to Pluto. But why does this show that, and indeed how would this have happened? It would probably be worthwhile to find out, as in the process we may find some clues as to why Darwin has Uranus in Scorpio in the 11th.
   
Necessity is the mother of invention
Firstly, the Soul has had many recent lives now of trying it's utmost to figure out what makes nature tick - because of its love for nature and also because how nature worked seemed to be so compellingly mysterious, fascinating, and also because of the Soul's extreme attachments to using the mental body "¦ and in this life as Darwin it must finalise this deep and long standing behaviour - Mercury (thinking) balsamic (been going a long time) Pluto (being total, compulsion) both in Pisces (about the entire creation including nature) in 3rd (note-taking, study, local environments) with the ruler Neptune (mystery, devotion) conjunct Saturn (work, achievement) in Sagittarius (seeking understanding) in 12th (need to culminate many lives) "¦. of worldly effort (Saturn). This was not always what the Soul has wanted to do however, it has arisen as its individual quest, its passion that it has developed as a reaction to so many ancient lives of suffering and trauma. All the soul-destroying suffering that this Soul went through in all it's distant past lives has consequently birthed an extremely deep need to understand why life is what it is "¦ and many, many lifetimes later this quest has now become the Soul's whole "reason for being".

Birth of a new Quest
Referring back to those very distant lives summarised at the beginning of the post, we know the quest itself would have been born in the depths of despair the Soul found itself in at some point, most likely in its last lives in the Consensus stage. It would have been this deep question about its suffering that was racking the Soul so much, the absolute agony that this question was based on, that gave the Soul such an idea regarding what it could do about its suffering. After probably gestating for a life or two this idea would have spawned the beginning of the Soul's defiant impulse in distant lives (Uranus SN and Mars SN in 1st house Sagittarius) to actually branch out on its own and start thinking for itself. And so this question, born out of suffering, mutates into the Soul's new quest, a new direction for it - an initial spur away from the mainstream.

Individuation - progress is slow and difficult
However, as one might imagine, this has not always been a straight-forward process. Initial difficulties would have been great frustration at lack of progress (both Mars SN and Uranus SN square Jupiter, expansion - and Jupiter is in a full quincunx, social limitations, to Mars in the 10th, goals) - practically whole lifetimes would have been stuck in a quagmire with no progress being made as the Soul dealt with authorities and authority issues. While the Soul would have been dealt many additional blows to its self- esteem by this (Mars square, crisis,  Moon in 2nd, self-worth) it would have absolutely needed to keep pushing against all constrictions regardless, to keep the movement into individuation continuing. Other difficulties at that time would have been learning how to get what it needed from the society while at the same time wanting to get out from under it's influence (both Mars SN and Uranus SN square, crisis, Pluto, and Pluto is in full sesquiquadrate, understanding society, to Mars in 10th) "¦ again resulting in struggle, hurt and powerlessness within the system (Mars squaring Moon in Capricorn, and Moon rules the 8th house, power & powerlessness). In the process of struggling to break free, all these woundings have been dismissed as unimportant - thus the wounding would have been swept aside so that deeper needs would continue to be met. The newly discovered need for liberation and freedom (Mars SN new conjunction to Uranus SN in Sagittarius in the 1st house) would have been viewed as paramount and anything that might detract from it as immaterial.

Loss and Frustration
During the resulting standoff of these lives, either enforced by society or because the related inner conflicts made it impossible to do anything significant, all the previous hard work of the Soul (to study nature, using the mind) would languish, and before long start dissolving (Jupiter, ruler of the Uranus & Mars SNs in Sag, is itself ruled by Neptune in the 12th, both a dissolvent). This is where deep frustration would set in regarding these desires (Saturn is conjuncting Jupiter's ruler, Neptune), which would itself have been wounding to the individual's willpower.

Recent Lives
Much later on in the Soul's recent past lives, we can see the outcome of all this, the result of the emotional body suppression and the damage to its self-esteem, which started such a very long time ago, and then subsequent wounding to it's willpower. With the Moon SN being in the 5th house (willpower, creativity) - ego distortion has resulted in the Soul creating a pyramid effect in its relating. The Soul has either been at the bottom or at the top of this pyramid. Wherever it was, with the SN Moon in Taurus (fixed sign) it would have been stuck there for long periods at a time; most reluctantly if at the bottom or most obstinately if it was at the top. It would have tended to be at the top (Moon SN ruler is in Aries) but not always. In these more recent past lives, along with this pyramid structure that the Soul has created would have been a lot of "attitude" as far as authorities went (the ruler, of the Moon SN ruler, is Mars in 10th house), in fact with everyone in its life at times (Mars in Libra, extremes). Just as it was in distant past lives the Soul has in more recent past lives still had issues it was working out with society and authorities. (For example, in the immediate past life, while Dampier preferred to avoid dealing with authority, when he did have to he still had a cavalier approach to it).

"¦ Problems at the South Node
This ego (Cancer, emotional) distortion would have been building over many, many distant lives as a result of the emotional suppression happening over the same long period. In more recent lives now, without contact with its emotional body, the Soul would have had few reality checks on the sense it had of itself. Motivated and operating more and more from a mental perspective for a long time now, the distortion that is inevitable with suppression (Saturn) has affected the egocentric awareness (Moon) in recent lives resulting in a sense of grandeur - hence the pyramid creation (Moon SN in 5th house). In each recent life, as long as the personality was at the top of the pyramid that it had created it would be happy. But because it was operating with a massively suppressed emotional body, at times the individual would lose perspective completely as far as its sense of grandeur went, a huge crisis would erupt, and in a short space of time it would find it was at the bottom of it's pyramid (Moon SN is at the apex of a yod with Neptune/Saturn and the MC). Nevertheless with the Moon SN septile Pluto (feeling special) and Moon SN ruler being in Aries 3rd, ruled by Mars in the 10th, the individual would simply start rebuilding it's ego to great heights again. Only for the same thing to happen again. Every time the individual got dumped by society this way it's disillusionment with itself would have become greater and greater (Neptune is one of the points in the yod).

Creation of the Skipped Step
So eventually the Soul would abandon the learning these desires required (SN in 5th house learning) and attempt a miraculous jump to the completely opposite kind of experience - the 11th house, the area of experience denoted by the Moon NN). This is only ever initially attempted by a Soul when it has become desperate, when the difficulties it has been facing in the Pluto and SN Moon areas have seemed insurmountable. That's because it's simply not natural to try and grab the future even if it is possible. It's natural to stay in the present, but if the present becomes too unpalatable because it itself is stuck in a past which has been hell then the future becomes the only option. Initially this brings a great sense of relief, especially as the area of the PPP also now seems to be available in a more tangible way - a great exhilaration can be felt, a feeling of astonishing breakthrough. However having to continue developing life experience, but suddenly now in this new area, may start off as extremely refreshing, it will still have all the challenges that something untried and new has. Therefore eventually progress here will slow too, and life will gradually become de-glamorized and bogged down with difficulties. And these difficulties will be compounded by the fact that the foundation for this area of experience (the 5th house) is incomplete and therefore unreliable, may not always support the kind of learning that occurs in the 11th house in the way expected. This would lead to the personality not being able to fully rely upon itself in all situations as far as the 11th house was concerned. As things degenerate to be so difficult that doing things this way becomes unworkable as a solution, the Soul will abandon it and return to the original way of operating - the 5th house way. And naturally it will be with a significant sense of disappointment and resignation (Saturn experiences).    

Soul Growth becoming Fragmented
Back at the 5th house again the Soul would feel so much less inspired (Moon SN quincunx Neptune) and would be more depressed (Moon SN quincunx Saturn). Automatically resurrecting its old pyramid pattern starting with itself at the top would work for a while, but the same disillusionment would set in as it continuously ended up being thrown down to the bottom by others in more powerful positions in society, people it was trying to dominate, or at the very least, to impress. So again it would escape by jumping to the Moon NN in the 11th house. Each time it has jumped to the 11th house however the experience has not been so new, and gradually the Soul would have started to develop in that area of experience - detachment, observation etc. (11th). As well, being in Scorpio, this new learning would be very different to its 5th house experiences. Instead of being based on withdrawal into pleasure (Taurus in 5th) there would be more openness to penetrating all that the individual found themselves involved with, including themselves, and a desire to expand what and who they were able to relate to. This would inevitably take them into emotional conflicts with others (Scorpio) which would rock them to the core, as having such little access to their emotions they would not be able to prevent being outmanoeuvred and defeated in these confrontations, which were mostly emotional in nature. However the individual would gradually become aware that it did actually have emotions, and a desire to be able to access them fully would have arisen via Mars (in the 10th, from where all the agitation was taking place).

New Horizons
In each life as this cycle played out, whenever the individual was in the Moon NN 11th house area of experience a couple of things would happen. Being in the 11th the individual would start experimenting (11th) with its environment, and with how it observed it. This would then stimulate awareness of the PPP experience - Virgo 9th. And here the individual would find detailed insights happening of their own accord, a kind of natural distinguishing of environmental data relevance and significant patterns in the data. These would be delicious tastes of exhilaration which would encourage the individual to abandon the past and observe in many new directions, loosening the mind from its previous patterns. Also as a result the individual would have not been able to avoid noticing the rigidity of its responses to others (the 11th being a fixed house), and been drawn into experimenting in scientific fashion (11th) with its own behavior at deeper levels (Scorpio). But with the Moon NN being ruled by Pluto the urge for security would at some point manifest, and the individual would then shut-down and once again be forced to revert back to the Moon SN in the 5th. Nonetheless this regular see-saw flip-flopping over the most recent lives has had three very interesting effects.

Wounding, Suppression and Karmic Necessity
Firstly, by the time the Soul has incarnated as Darwin Chiron is in Aquarius for many reasons - it correlates to the many lifetimes the Soul has been relying predominately on its mental body in its daily living, and thus the extensive mental development that has eventually produced the potential to interact directly with the collective mind (Aquarius is an air sign and relates to the collective); but at the same time it relates to the deficiency the Soul has felt when interacting face to face in group activity due to its suppressed emotional body; and related to these social difficulties, its battles with authorities and the resulting broken willpower, and the loss of objectivity that has led to the distorted ego that has emerged in recent lives. Another aspect of Chiron being in Aquarius shows the extensive trauma (Aquarius) all the many wounds (Chiron) have created for the Soul. Finally, it echoes the endlessly thwarted desire for freedom. Chiron in the 2nd relates to the deeply buried pain from struggles to survive that have plagued this Soul so much; it reveals a shattered value system and the distrust the Soul has developed about the body (it occasionally failed Dampier completely at random moments); and it indicates that sickness may occur in his physical body (2nd) as the Soul tries to heal the emotional trauma. But more than anything else Chiron in the 2nd reflects its massively wounded self-worth - its greatest ongoing wound.  
   
Disturbing the deeply buried emotional body, as described above,  has gradually refreshed the Soul's awareness of the hugely unresolved wounds it has accumulated over, and been carrying for, so many lifetimes. In very recent lives, glimpses would have been had through the PPP into how these wounds were at the bottom of ego distortion, and then how that itself was at the bottom of not being able to progress in society. And so now in the life of Darwin we see the healing of all those issues brought forward as a "must happen" life mission, in the form of the skipped step.

Grabbing the Future "¦ until you fall
Secondly, the Soul would also have needed to identify some limitation within itself that it needed to go beyond (Moon NN in Scorpio) and then form a relationship to something that symbolized whatever was beyond that. This limitation would have been "¦ firstly its propensity to always arrange its perceptions logically (Pluto is the ruler of the Moon's NN, and Mercury is in a balsamic conjunction to Pluto in the 3rd) but secondly, to also do so in a way that always fitted a pre-defined pattern (Mercury in FQ square to Saturn). That pre-defined pattern would be the individual's set of existing concepts concerning what reality was (Pluto in the 3rd), which the individual would be deeply attached to for emotional security (Pluto) "¦ And what would be beyond it would be having a Sagittarian understanding of what reality was about, instead of a logical arrangement of many fragments of perceived reality. A broad overview of the total reality of any matter, and thus a connection to the inherent principles of it rather than only the detailed facts of it, which may change over time as perceptions change.

What would have symbolized such a solution, would have been a rationally integrated insight into all of it's detached observations of the environment, of nature, of the group social structures (Moon NN in 11th), and of its own inner states, of its needs for the healing of it's emotional body (Scorpio), and deep resolution of the wounding to its self-esteem (Chiron in 2nd, square to the nodal axis) from an intuitive grasp of all the essential issues involved. And amazingly enough (to the personality) it was possible to actually find this solution - at the PPP in Virgo in the 9th house. By predominately focusing on and operating through 11th house Scorpio situations and issues as a by-product the PPP location would also have been opened and made available to consciousness. These additional PPP 9th house experience would have had the effect of propelling the Soul even more into its future than it already had done by jumping to the Moon NN prematurely. Therefore even though this totally premature 9th house experience would have been greatly replenishing for the Soul, it would have been only able to participate for bursts before it would be unable to prevent falling back to the 11th house, and then eventually back to the 5th. Falling from such heights (PPP in 9th) would have been extremely dramatic (Moon SN 5th), each time involving many external and internal conflicts and trauma of its own. However each time the Soul returned it would bring its increased understanding with it, its expanded mind, its increased intuitive abilities, all counteracting the tendency to create and rely solely on pre-determined patterns of understanding.

Not All is Lost
Now we can see how it occurred that the Soul reached to its PPP several times in the past. Also that Darwin has Jupiter in a new conjunction to Pluto shows that in these recent lives the Soul actually did overcome the limitation it had identified as blocking its evolution the most - the imposition of logic onto all perceptions in a pre-determined pattern. Thus Jupiter is now able to balance out the effect of Mercury being in a balsamic conjunction to Pluto. Jupiter will do this by being able to take Mercury's logical output (deepened by Pluto) as its own input, and synthesize it into an integrated concept, a whole understanding. And be able to immediately see if any inherent pattern in those concepts is identical to any pattern already known, or whether this understanding is based on an entirely new pattern (innovation drawn from those previous life experiences in the 11th house half of the flip-flopping cycle). The ability to do this would prove invaluable in Darwin's endless experiments, all of which had to be recorded meticulously in great detail (Mercury square Saturn), with the resulting data extensively analysed (Mercury conjunct Pluto) and reduced to a summarised result, to something that was significant in the big picture (Jupiter conjunct Pluto).

Finally a Breakthrough
A third effect of all this past life flip-flopping between the Moon SN and NN is that this itself has been somewhat traumatising for the Soul. As well, when on the NN polarity, the tip of the unresolved trauma from all of its past lives (Uranus & 11th, long term memories) was gradually being exposed through emotional encounters with people having very different opinions and views to it (Scorpio, ruled by Pluto in 3rd). These two things plus the stress of not easily fitting (lack of emotional & social skills/responses) into any groups (11th) combined with the need to liberate from co-dependent one-to- one relationships (Libra on 11th house cusp) would have meant the individual was always extremely lonely in this half of the nodal flip-flopping cycle. In fact this Soul has rarely known true friendship (11th) for a great deal of its recent past. Of course there would have been the odd exception, but it has been severely limited by its suppressed emotions and it's unlikely its relationships often flowered into much intimacy with another, be it with family, friend or lover. Yet with the Moon NN in Scorpio the desire for deep, meaningful relationships with others would have been constantly growing in the background. Thus additional 11th house experiences for the individual would involve facing its inherent loneliness at a social level. With all these trauma-based experiences happening for the Soul in the NN half the cycle in recent lives, it is clear why Uranus is in the 11th house in Darwin's chart - it links to the massive trauma and deep isolation the Soul carries within it, which in recent lives has started to be released from the unconscious. It is also why Uranus is in a conjunction to the Moon's NN, showing the Soul has been starting to face and release its trauma in this way in just the last life or two. This was also why Uranus is in Scorpio - Scorpio has very recently been the catalyst to open the basement door, and the Soul needs that to continue in this life.

"¦ and Immense Liberation is at hand
With Uranus here in the 11th house (the house of trauma) Darwin will have as much access as possible to the entire past trauma of the Soul, as it has started to have in very recent lives. The conjunction to the Moon NN being new shows that liberation from this trauma had already started to take place previously, as a result of new decisions and choices that had been gestating or active in the Soul. And due to this past activation of the NN, it will now be a point of healthy growth for the Soul in Darwin's life, so he should continue to focus and be active here. It also indicates the Soul's intentions in this life to continue to make innovative new decisions and choices regarding the processing of old trauma, and the experiencing of any new trauma.

Putting it all to Good Use
Not only that, it also means that Darwin should identify a socially (11th) relevant (10th) need to pour his life energies into. It was absolutely imperative that he move on from the approach of Dampier (whose life efforts, being a pirate, were generally very disconnected from society). Instead Darwin needed to integrate his worldly efforts into society in no uncertain terms - his light (Uranus) must shine amongst his peers (11th) this time. Thus he focused on his local universities and scientific societies as target groups he knew he had to become acknowledged by, and more importantly, relevant to and thus integrated with. Thus another reason why Uranus was in the 11th house in Scorpio was the need to continue the penetration (Scorpio) of society (11th) he had embarked on in recent lives, and that he should figure out the source of any resistance in society to his aims (Uranus sesquiquadrate Jupiter in 3rd) by psychoanalysing the human dynamics involved (Uranus in Scorpio), as a way of overcoming any obstacle to integrating into any scientific community that he needed to, for the purpose of gaining enhanced influence and respectability that would assist his mental work effort (Uranus in Scorpio 11th in FQ trine with Mercury, which was conjunct Pluto and square Saturn).

Another essential reason why Uranus was in the 11th house was to promote objectivity, and the detachment that this requires, as this is at the heart of the scientific enquiry, all scientific method. That Darwin wrote some of his best work in Origin of the Species when he was his sickest shows how much he had the ability to detach from any emotions or distractions to do with his external and internal environments, and just be present with what was actually happening on a momentary basis - pure observation. At the same time, as an observer he needed to be able to merge totally with what was being observed, another reason for Uranus being in Scorpio (merging, osmosis).

Following the Path of Liberation
Personal relationships are in the Soul's future path to liberation, and this would impinge on Darwin's consciousness in this life (Uranus NN in Gemini in the 7th house). Thus Darwin would innately sense that he needed to always find a way to be on a positive pathway in his dealings with people. Nevertheless, with Uranus NN quincunxing natal Uranus (which was in a stationary retrograde position - extra emphasised individuality) there would be a subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) tension in his scientifically based relationships until he had clarified whether or not the other person would acknowledge, understand and therefore accept his need for freedom (Uranus in 11th) as far as mental exploration and scientific endeavour was concerned (natal Uranus trines Mercury in the 3rd, which is in a FQ square to Saturn in Sagittarius - crisis, square, freedom based on being able to implement his own, FQ, scientific approach and style). And at the same time he still needed to retain their respect - without that he was sunk. Also the reason this tension would sometimes not be so subtle was that Uranus NN was tightly square to Mercury, Ceres and Pluto, opposite Neptune and Saturn, and sesquiquadrate Mars. However it also meant he needed to let other people into his scientific process (quincunx = humility, adjustments), that he needed to be exposed to many different opinions (Gemini) from a great variety of people, in order to truly liberate from his own scientific fixity (Uranus in a fixed sign and house), and through comparison (7th) to gain increased objectivity. The Soul has suffered enough that its understanding of cause and effect is now an established part of itself on a personal level, and he was now extending that to an impersonal level (all the Aquarius, Uranus and the 11th house in the chart). So because of all these conflicting needs Darwin therefore spent a lot of time and energy in correspondence with his colleagues patiently and carefully working through all these issues, plus conscientiously wrote articles for the scientific community also in order to stay connected despite his natural instinct from the past to "go it alone" (Moon SN in 5th, ruler in Aries).

The Thirst for Innovation and the New
This life for Darwin was all about a culmination of and great release from the past, via a focus on the present that was uncompromisingly total and potent. The enormity of the challenge he set himself, to penetrate the mystery of biological species creation and change, once established in him burned in him 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and it took priority over absolutely everything else in his life. In the past he had already been a wild individual, and was unique in his sea travels. But relative to that past Darwin's whole life now represented the new, because he had jumped in to doing all that, and more, within the context of full integration into society. This was a radical development for the Soul, a kind of full circle stretching back from ancient Consensus days. Here Darwin was again relating to society as a closely knit member of it as then, but not this time from a point of impoverishment, unlawfulness, or other kind of social suffering. Instead this was close involvement as one who was laden with a great gift that society sorely needed, and whose time had come.

This is expressed in so many ways in Darwin's chart. Uranus is in a disseminating bi-septile to the Sun in Aquarius, bringing clarity to Darwin's socialising efforts regarding his scientific progress. This would particularly be the case say for example, when obtaining an unusual result from an experiment (Uranus in 11th). This would prompt Darwin to seek out the right person or people to discuss this new finding with, someone who could help him gauge the effect it might have on the wider scientific society. And in this way fate steered him in the right direction regarding social events many times.

While the Moon in Capricorn in the 2nd would have had a braking effect on the Uranus energy in his life, it would have been a lone figure in this regard. At the most it would have provided a much needed rudder in a life of heightened individualism (Uranus), also perhaps an anchoring effect by keeping excitement in check. But otherwise it too was on the same journey as it was in a crescent quintile to Uranus. For example, Darwin would have spent much time on his walks in nature gestating (Moon) new ideas (Uranus) into clearer form (Capricorn) by pondering over his feelings, or creatively (quintile) planning his next moves (Capricorn) in the community (11th).

With Mercury in a FQ trine to Uranus, his confidence in his mental abilities was super high. His hunger for new hypotheses to evaluate, for new experiments to construct, for results to try and understand was rarely satiated. With his brilliance being difficult to match and his left brain being wired so effortlessly into the collective mind, he was many steps ahead in intelligence of most others of his time. Those espousing old and dead ideas or concepts, or unrealistic theories were left in the dust as he voraciously raced ahead in understanding like a super seasoned chess player. And after he'd written his book and it had been critiqued many times, it slowly dawned on him that only a few people understood what it was really about - it was so new and profound.

With Venus in a gibbous quincunx to Uranus Darwin knew he had to be on his best behaviour at all times. In his early youth before he consciously acknowledged his desire for natural science, he only felt like amusing himself as he saw fit. But once he got closer to doing the kind of science he was passionate about he quickly fell in line with expected social etiquette. He knew which side his bread was buttered on and what was at stake. He was so determined to culminate his intense mental searching for many lives he instinctively (Venus in Aries) knew humbling (quincunx) himself was a small price to pay for a much deeper liberation.

Because Uranus was on the Moon NN, pulling him to continue there in this life, and that Moon's NN was the resolution node for the Chiron skipped step, beyond the age of 28 Darwin would have had little inclination to be at the Moon SN at all in this life. This was extra emphasised by Uranus being the ruler of Chiron, and also Chiron's NN being conjunct both the Moon's NN and Uranus, all in Scorpio in  the 11th house - almost zero reason. And with Saturn in a full quincunx to the Moon SN any social indiscretions would quickly result in undesirable repercussions, so the lesson would be learnt soon enough. Darwin did have a few crises to deal with in his life, but nothing that had any permanent affect. The potential for repression of any stress this caused was also there, especially with Saturn in the 12th. But with Uranus conjunct the Moon NN, and Uranus also in a disseminating trine to Pluto, Darwin was in control of his destiny (liberation) as far as social integration was concerned, due to the essential humbleness that he was now fully able to command from deep within.

Uranus was in Scorpio to bring the light to the scientific darkness of those times, and this was achieved by its ruler, Pluto in the 3rd, finally undergoing a complete transformation, a metamorphosis to the PPP in the 9th, once and for all. To finally get to this place Darwin had to resolve an enormous amount of karma, and personal trauma, by dedicating his entire adult life to the task of helping humanity through his chosen field. But in so doing, he also brought himself to a point (PPP) where a refined and uncluttered awareness of his Soul (Pluto) was possible. And to reach that point is freedom, truly liberating.

blessings Upasika
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Post by: Rad on Jan 31, 2014, 08:59 AM
Hi Ari, Gray, and Upasika

First, thanks to you all for continuing to take the time necessary to work on this next to last segment of our planetary method: Uranus.

I am planning  on reading through all of your work over the weekend. I am still having some sickness in the body that is not allowing me to concentrate in the ways that I want too to read through your works. I am hopeful that by Monday I will be able to post my responses to all of you.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Gray on Feb 02, 2014, 02:34 PM
Dear Rad,

Please take all the time you need. I will be thinking of you and hope you experience healing.
love
Gray
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Post by: Upasika on Feb 02, 2014, 03:06 PM
Hi Rad,

Hope your body is getting a good rest, sending you healing wishes...

blessings Upasika
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Feb 03, 2014, 09:01 AM
Hi Ari, Gray, and Upasika..

First, thanks for you well wishes. I will need one more day before I can post my comments to you all.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Rad on Feb 04, 2014, 10:03 AM
Hi Ari,

Again, thanks for taking the time to work on this segment of our planetary method: Uranus. Your succinct EA analysis of some of the core memories of his prior lives residing in his individuated unconscious that then conditioned her current life behavior is as accurate and it is soundly reasoned from an EA point of view.

Simply excellent excellent EA work Ari.

Bravo !!

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Rad on Feb 04, 2014, 10:12 AM
Hi Gray,

First thanks for taking the time to work on this segment of our planetary method: Uranus.

Your EA work here is simply as stunning as it is accurate and utterly comprehensive of the various past life dynamics and memories residing in his individuated unconscious that had the affect of conditioning the reality created in the life of Darwin itself. Beyond this, you so wonderfully demonstrated the 'liberation from the known', 'freedom from the known as JWG put it, in your exacting EA analysis. The EA reasoning that you employed in all the different astrological symbols that you used is as accurate as it is instructive to those who are desiring to learn Evolutionary Astrology.

This is just brilliant EA work Gray.

Bravo !!

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Rad on Feb 04, 2014, 10:29 AM
Hi Upasika,

Your stupendous EA analysis of this part of our planetary method, Uranus, is just that stupendous. By providing the a sequential summing up of all the previous steps in our planetary method, which itself is like reading a book on EA which, again, I would encourage you to do, you have provided the foundation for the readers here to understand how to integrate all the relevant archetypes of Uranus into the life of Darwin.

The comprehensiveness of your exacting and detailed EA analysis of the Uranus archetype is simply a masterful and brilliant work wherein the EA reasoning of all that you have analyzed is as sound as it is accurate.

Simply a masterful and brilliant EA analysis Upasika.

Bravo !!

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Feb 04, 2014, 10:33 AM
Hi Ari, Gray, and Upasika

My god ! All of your work in combination is serving as beacons of EA light that is helping to teach and educate all those who have come to read our EA Planetary Method of chart analysis. And that number has now reached around 16,456 Souls. All of you are serving as true ambassadors for Evolutionary Astrology itself. I would like to encourage all you to seriously think about writing books in EA that would have have the affect of advancing it all over the world. You all have the unique capacity to do just that !

My hat is off to all of you because of your brilliant work.

We will begin work soon on the last segment of our planetary method: Neptune.

God Bless you all,

Rad
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Post by: Rad on Feb 10, 2014, 07:32 AM
Hi Gray, Ari, and Upasika....

So we have now come to our final step in our EA Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation: Neptune. It has been one heck of a journey to this point using the chart of Charles Darwin along the way.

So in our final step we doing an EA analysis of the Neptune archetype as it manifests in Darwin's birth chart. There are so many archetypes that correlate to Neptune so I think we will focus on the following.

1. The it correlates to the consciousness of the Soul in general, and the nature of the consciousness within any given individual Soul. If we remember that consciousness always assumes and manifests relative to the nature of the form that it exists within then we can understand that the totality of all the dynamics existent in any given Soul determines the 'form' through which it's consciousness will manifest.

As this point we have determined just that by way of all the planetary steps employed in the evolutionary understanding the the Soul of Darwin. So when you address this point, the nature and state of Darwin's consciousness simply remember all of those dynamics that we have uncovered to date.

Within this state of consciousness we must also apply the affect of the collective unconsciousness, Neptune, the 12th House, and Pisces upon the current state of consciousness for any Soul. The collective unconscious correlates to the TOTALITY OF THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE HUMAN ORGANISM TO DATE: THE CURRENT MOMENT.

At the same time we need to apply the affects of the collective consciousness to the individual state of Soul consciousness in such a way as to understand how the affects of collective consciousness shapes and defines the individual state of consciousness. The collective consciousness simply means the TOTALITY OF ALL HUMANS EVENTS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE AT ANY POINT IN TIME TO EACH INDIVIDUAL.

2. Within the consciousness of the human organism is an awareness of the totality, the immensity, of the Manifest Creation: of something much larger than any one part of that Manifest Creation. This awareness of course is the causative factor, the determinant, for human consciousness of understand in some way exactly what is the cause of that Manifest Creation. This need to understand this cause then becomes the determinant of creating some kind of cosmology that can explain it. As a result, whatever the agreed upon cause is of that Manifest Creation, at any point in time in the human evolutionary journey, conditions the nature of the individual soul consciousness. This agreed upon, collective, cosmology thus becomes the CORE STRUCTURE OF THE INDIVIDUAL AND COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS AT ANY POINT IN TIME.

This core structure in turn thus conditions every other dynamic within the totality of the collective and individual Soul consciousness itself: it's emotions, it's mental structures, and it's sexuality. Thus, the inner relationship of the collective and individual Soul to whatever the Source of the Manifest Creation is as reflected in the specific cosmologies of any group of humans at any point in time AND PLACE.

Thus, however the collective and individual consciousness of the Soul DEFINES the Source of the Manifest Creation is exactly how that Source will be experienced. From the point of view of Natural Laws that were set in motion by the Source Of All Things it of course is entirely possible for consciousness of each individual Soul to be in some kind or form of 'communion' with it's own Source.

3. How the awareness of the Whole by any one Soul can correlate to how that one Soul gives itself to the needs of that Whole in order for that Whole to be served and sustained because of that giving. Conversely, this natural archetype within the consciousness of the Soul can become perverted to the point that the Soul will create within it's consciousness the need to be SERVED BY THE WHOLE.

Within this archetype thus lies the phenomena of martyrdom which is all about self sacrifice. In turn this can lead to masochism that itself has two types. (1) 'spiritual' and (2) psycho-pathological. An example of the spiritual masochism would be Jesus on the Cross. Psycho-pathological masochism is caused by a deep sense of inner guilt that needs to be 'atoned' for. Thus, the Soul creating circumstances for itself to be abused in various ways by others, or itself.

Additionally, within this archetype relative to the perversion of the consciousness of the Soul creating the need to be served by the whole can lead to the archetype of sadism: the need to punish others because of not being served in the ways that the Soul deems it needs to be within itself. Within the consciousness of sadism also lies the dynamic of guilt, a guilt that is rooted in violations of natural laws. This guilt in turn creates an inner anger within the consciousness of the Soul that then blames others for being the cause of it's guilt and the resulting anger. Thus, the need to punish others because of.

It should now be clear that both psycho-pathological masochism and sadism are rooted in invented cosmologies by humans that themselves are not rooted in the Natural Laws set in motion by the Source of All Things. The avenging 'god', or the 'god' that needs human sacrifice, the 'god' that says human sexuality is evil, and so on and so forth.

4. The nature of collective and individual delusions and illusions that are considered to be true, and the affects of this within consciousness.

5. The overall stability of the consciousness of the Soul by way of the natural proportions of the physiology within the brain. When these natural proportions become distorted and disproportionate in some way this will then correlate to various forms of instability within consciousness that manifest as various neurosis's, psychosis's, schizophrenia, or dis-associative behavioral disorders. The cause of this is the Soul itself of course and the various dynamics within it that can be the determinants of these types of conditions.

6. To the archetype of sleeping. Consciousness in human form, and most forms on our Earth, must sleep in order to renew itself on a cyclic basis. Within the state of sleep the phenomena of dreams occurs that affect consciousness in various ways depending on the nature of the dreams.

7. To the archetype of healing: the physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual.

8. Imagination. Imagination is an archetype within the consciousness of the Soul that serves various functions that can be both positive and negative. Imagination itself is a natural vehicle that allows the Soul to envision different possible realities, Saturn, for itself that, by there very nature, promotes the growth/ evolution of the Soul itself. These imagined realities can also be created as a way to endure the perceived suffering or stagnation of whatever the current circumstances are for the Soul. Thus, we have the word 'fantasy' for these types of imaginations. In this context these types of imaginations or fantasies are a positive thing.

Negatively, fantasies born of imagination exists when the consciousness of the Soul creates a 'reality' born from them that is not possible to actualize in the context of the current life at hand. Negative because this creates in an inner sense of torment and suffering because of them. When intensified it can cause the consciousness of the Soul to withdraw from the immediacy of the life and it's requirements.

Additionally, a Soul can conjure up imagined realities for others that are projected onto them as if they are real when, in fact, they are not.

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So now let's try to apply these Neptune, 12th House, and Pisces archetypes in our EA analysis of Darwin. If you have any questions please ask them of me now.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Feb 20, 2014, 08:38 AM
Hi Gray, Upasika, and Ari

Please let me know where you are with this last segment on the Planetary Method.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: ari moshe on Feb 20, 2014, 03:27 PM
Hi Rad,
I am choosing now to only focus on completing this thread before continuing on with the other Neptune thread. I will let you know as soon as I am ready to get started with this final analysis. I sense this will be next week. Right now I don't feel ready. I am excited about this and it is my intention to delve deeply and fully into this. Thank you so much for this space and your support.
God bless,
Ari Moshe
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Rad on Feb 21, 2014, 08:56 AM
Hi ,

Please let me know if I can help you in applying the various archetypes of Neptune to the chart of Darwin. One thing to focus on, for example, is the affect of the collective unconsciousness had on the individual consciousness of Darwin by way of igniting desires within his Soul to do the work that he did. In turn, how the individual work that he then did has affected the collective consciousness/ unconscious because of the very nature of that work. So to examine the fact that his S.Node of Neptune in in Aquarius in his 2nd House conjunct Chiron, it's ruler being in the 12th conjunct Saturn, the N.Node of in Leo in the 9th which is then ruled by his Sun in Aquarius that comes back to his 2nd. That S.Node of Neptune is ruled by his Uranus in Scorpio conjunct his N.Node in the 11th.  

In terms of the healing archetype of that which needed to be healed physically, and within his Soul, because of the individual past of his Soul: the lives that led up to being Darwin. And so on.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Gray on Feb 21, 2014, 11:58 AM
Rad,

Ari's message sounds like he is in a similar place to me right now in terms of getting ready to work on this last segment, I am planning to get started now.  I have not worked on it up until now but I am planning to begin work on it by the end of this weekend.  I will post any questions that may arise.  I'm not sure if I will have the time to finish it by the end of next week or not, but I will be working on it.

with gratitude,
Gray
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Post by: Upasika on Feb 22, 2014, 06:29 AM
Hi Rad,

I had been meaning to update you. But firstly thanks for the feedback on Uranus, it is always so encouraging and supportive.

(Also thanks too for your appreciation of our collective effort - I agree it's become a most amazing journey we have ended up all going on together!)

Rad, I'm about to leave my home, so it's all boxes, packing and chaos. And the house I'm going to be moving to has needed extensive work on it before moving in, with more still to do. In amongst all this I am also needing to keep up my medical treatments which take about 6-8 hours per week, plus do my normal work/jobs...

It might take me a long while before I will be able to sit down and start, focus on this last assignment. I absolutely hate always being the last to get them done by a million miles, but this time no amount of me wishing to change that is likely to make any difference whatsoever - I know already this will take me a while to complete. I'm sorry I cannot do any better.

thank you,
Upasika
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Post by: Rad on Mar 15, 2014, 08:10 AM
Hi Gray, Ari, and Upasika

Please let me know where you are with this last segment.

God Bless, Rad
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Upasika on Mar 16, 2014, 05:25 PM
Hi Rad,

My situation has progressed a bit (am in the new place) but everything is only half unpacked, and am also still very behind on my current work. Plus I need to visit my mother who lives in another area of the country quite urgently. So as a result I am still quite a long way off getting it done, probably one to two months realistically. It is a priority for me though, so I will be doing it as soon as I can.

blessings Upasika
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Post by: ari moshe on Mar 17, 2014, 01:12 PM
Hi Rad, I have not gotten started on this yet. What I am going to do right now is designate a day and set slots of time for this week and next for this last segment.
With love
Ari Moshe
Title: Re: JWG'S Planetary Method of Chart Interpretation ...
Post by: Gray on Mar 17, 2014, 01:15 PM
I am also only at an early stage of my analysis and I am trying to get a better understanding. I have noticed the Neptune thread and how you recently addressed the collective unconscious/conscious so I am working on understanding this better.  I feel like I understand the concept very well, it is more about how to actually determine how that operates through the birth chart I am trying to understand more clearly.  


Also, Rad you mentioned this in the set-up and I am feeling it applies to Darwin:

"Within this archetype thus lies the phenomena of martyrdom which is all about self sacrifice. In turn this can lead to masochism that itself has two types. (1) 'spiritual' and (2) psycho-pathological. An example of the spiritual masochism would be Jesus on the Cross. Psycho-pathological masochism is caused by a deep sense of inner guilt that needs to be 'atoned' for. Thus, the Soul creating circumstances for itself to be abused in various ways by others, or itself.

Additionally, within this archetype relative to the perversion of the consciousness of the Soul creating the need to be served by the whole can lead to the archetype of sadism: the need to punish others because of not being served in the ways that the Soul deems it needs to be within itself. Within the consciousness of sadism also lies the dynamic of guilt, a guilt that is rooted in violations of natural laws. This guilt in turn creates an inner anger within the consciousness of the Soul that then blames others for being the cause of it's guilt and the resulting anger. Thus, the need to punish others because of.

It should now be clear that both psycho-pathological masochism and sadism are rooted in invented cosmologies by humans that themselves are not rooted in the Natural Laws set in motion by the Source of All Things. The avenging 'god', or the 'god' that needs human sacrifice, the 'god' that says human sexuality is evil, and so on and so forth. "

We have already discussed Darwin's soul carrying some guilt and anger, so I am assuming that this "psyho-pathological masochism" also applies to his soul- am I correct?

Thank you for your guidance,
Gray
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Post by: Rad on Mar 18, 2014, 09:35 AM
Quote from: Gray on Mar 17, 2014, 01:15 PM
I am also only at an early stage of my analysis and I am trying to get a better understanding. I have noticed the Neptune thread and how you recently addressed the collective unconscious/conscious so I am working on understanding this better.  I feel like I understand the concept very well, it is more about how to actually determine how that operates through the birth chart I am trying to understand more clearly.  


Also, Rad you mentioned this in the set-up and I am feeling it applies to Darwin:

"Within this archetype thus lies the phenomena of martyrdom which is all about self sacrifice. In turn this can lead to masochism that itself has two types. (1) 'spiritual' and (2) psycho-pathological. An example of the spiritual masochism would be Jesus on the Cross. Psycho-pathological masochism is caused by a deep sense of inner guilt that needs to be 'atoned' for. Thus, the Soul creating circumstances for itself to be abused in various ways by others, or itself.

Additionally, within this archetype relative to the perversion of the consciousness of the Soul creating the need to be served by the whole can lead to the archetype of sadism: the need to punish others because of not being served in the ways that the Soul deems it needs to be within itself. Within the consciousness of sadism also lies the dynamic of guilt, a guilt that is rooted in violations of natural laws. This guilt in turn creates an inner anger within the consciousness of the Soul that then blames others for being the cause of it's guilt and the resulting anger. Thus, the need to punish others because of.

It should now be clear that both psycho-pathological masochism and sadism are rooted in invented cosmologies by humans that themselves are not rooted in the Natural Laws set in motion by the Source of All Things. The avenging 'god', or the 'god' that needs human sacrifice, the 'god' that says human sexuality is evil, and so on and so forth. "

We have already discussed Darwin's soul carrying some guilt and anger, so I am assuming that this "psyho-pathological masochism" also applies to his soul- am I correct?

Thank you for your guidance,
Gray

Hi Gray,

To me this would be specifically true relative to all the physical problems he created in his body that are rooted in his past, a past that all of you who have developed this EA analysis of Darwin has so wonderfully understood, wherein within his Soul we could hear his own inner voice saying something to the effect of 'I deserve this punishment and pain because ............".

On the other hand with the symbols of Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House that we are examining now I would say that, at a professional level, Saturn/Neptune in the 12th that squares all those Pisces planets in his 3rd including Pluto itself, his Soul, that by publishing his book that he set himself up to be a 'martyr' for the cause that he inwardly believed in: to help humanity understand the Natural Law of evolution which then had a revolutionary affect on the entire world of evolutionary biology. It became the very basis of evolutionary biology. And, of course, all that he wrote and taught then challenged the authority of the Church, and religions in general, and the reactions to him because of this.  He knew that would happen. Thus, martyring himself for the larger end/ purpose of which his work spoke too.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Gray on Mar 26, 2014, 01:33 AM
Dear Rad,

I am still thinking about Neptune in relation to Darwin and the collective unconscious/conscious.  I feel like as far as a symbol of what sort of collective unconscious and collective conscious was impacting Darwin at the time, I at least have some solid ideas already.

What I am not sure if I am clearly understanding or not is how Saturn is functioning as a filter to his awareness of the collective unconscious and conscious since it is in a close balsamic conjunction to Neptune (then it is also in square to the Pisces Pluto-Mercury-Ceres).  Does it mean that both the collective unconscious and conscious could flood the structure of his consciousness at times, that he would at least on a subconscious level have access to this information he could perceive and communicate? One point about the collective conscious for example, I feel with the Saturn-Neptune he was very tuned into to it- as the example that Wallace was working on the exact same idea at the same time attests.

Or would it be more of a filter, blocking his conscious access to collective unconscious memories and perceptions to a large extent more so than allowing a large amount of the collective to filter through.  I get the idea that Saturn is involved with his internal criticism, and no doubt the "psycho-pathological masochism" aspect of his Neptune archetype.  Or, is it the idea that all of this is happening at the same time?


Thank you again for this opportunity to work with you on Darwin-
Gray
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Post by: Rad on Mar 26, 2014, 09:23 AM
Hi Gray,

Quote from: Gray on Mar 26, 2014, 01:33 AM
Dear Rad,

I am still thinking about Neptune in relation to Darwin and the collective unconscious/conscious.  I feel like as far as a symbol of what sort of collective unconscious and collective conscious was impacting Darwin at the time, I at least have some solid ideas already.

What I am not sure if I am clearly understanding or not is how Saturn is functioning as a filter to his awareness of the collective unconscious and conscious since it is in a close balsamic conjunction to Neptune (then it is also in square to the Pisces Pluto-Mercury-Ceres).  Does it mean that both the collective unconscious and conscious could flood the structure of his consciousness at times, that he would at least on a subconscious level have access to this information he could perceive and communicate?


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Yes, and by any consciousness of any Soul, including Darwin, that 'flooding' into the individual consciousness of a Soul creates a natural physiological reaction to this which, in turn, affects the natural individuation process that exists in all Souls. In essence, that physiological reaction affects the overall proportions of the physiology of the brain in such a way as to 'individualize' the brain of any given Soul. This natural process of any Soul's desire to individuate from the collective of all Souls then reflects the individual ongoing evolutionary journey of each Soul. The individual evolutionary journey of any given Soul becomes the DETERMINANT of how that individual Soul is thus ORIENTATED to the collective unconscious/ consciousness.

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One point about the collective conscious for example, I feel with the Saturn-Neptune he was very tuned into to it- as the example that Wallace was working on the exact same idea at the same time attests.

Or would it be more of a filter, blocking his conscious access to collective unconscious memories and perceptions to a large extent more so than allowing a large amount of the collective to filter through.

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The filter, as you put it, of his Saturn/Neptune conjunction operates in such a way that his Soul unconsciously 'tuned into' the the parts of the collective unconscious that was/ is linked to the desire in all humans to understand their origins: Saturn/ Neptune in Sagittarius in the 12th House that is then squaring all those Pisces Planets in his 3rd including the very nature of his own Soul structure. With his Soul structure thus attuned this then set in motion the physiological reactions within his brain that allowed him to individuate in exactly the way that he did. And, in so doing, affect the ongoing understanding of all humans relative to their origins: his affect upon the existing nature of the collective consciousness of that time which has been progressively receding into the collective unconscious as the collective consciousness accepts the truths he realized relative to the natural laws of evolution for all forms of life.

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I get the idea that Saturn is involved with his internal criticism, and no doubt the "psycho-pathological masochism" aspect of his Neptune archetype. Or, is it the idea that all of this is happening at the same time?

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It is all happening at the same time within his Soul.

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Thank you again for this opportunity to work with you on Darwin-
Gray

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And thank you too Gray for putting all the energy you have into EA in general, and this and other threads specifically.


God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Gray on Mar 26, 2014, 04:53 PM
Thank you Rad,

I completely understand.  This may take me some time to write about, however.  I will be working on it.

with love and gratitude,
Gray

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Post by: ari moshe on Apr 06, 2014, 01:52 PM
I Rad, I just wanted to touch base again here.
I am so sorry I have not been able to complete this. Thank you for holding this space and being so patience with me.

I won't be able to complete this practice thread this week with my current responsibilities. I am once again scheduling slots in my calender and intend to post by Thursday the 17th.
With love,
Ari Moshe
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Post by: Rad on Apr 07, 2014, 06:56 AM
Hi Ari,

Thanks for letting me know.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Gray on Apr 08, 2014, 01:14 AM
Hi Rad,

Thought I would also update you- I have been at a standstill because of new classes (Spring Quarter) that recently started including one that did not exist previously requiring me to create new curriculum- and as a result I just have not been able to focus much on this thread recently.  Things are starting to settle down now and I will be back on track with working on Darwin's Neptune.  Thank you again for your patience.

love,
Gray


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Post by: Upasika on Apr 08, 2014, 05:54 AM
Hi Rad,

Since we're tuning in ... I'm hanging in. Still nowhere near starting but the gap till when I can do that is slowly but steadily reducing. It will be next month for me. With surgery happening mid-May I will be doing it before then. Thanks so much for your patience and guidance.

blessings Upasika

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Post by: Rad on Apr 08, 2014, 06:46 AM
Hi Gray and Upasika,

Thanks for letting me know.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: ari moshe on Apr 18, 2014, 12:05 AM
Hi Rad, here I analyze some of the core elements of Neptune regarding the overall nature of the consciousness of the Soul of Darwin and why that consciousness. This is not exhaustive, nor did I touch upon all of the principals you stated, just a few of them. I got a lot out of this and look forward to reading some other of the posts here. Thank you for this opportunity Rad. God bless.

Analysis of Darwin's Neptune
Darwin had Neptune in Sag in the 12th house, culminating the 12th house close to the AC. Saturn is in a balsamic conjunction with Neptune. Saturn in Sag in the 12th which rules the 2nd house. In the second house is the Moon in Capricorn which is in a tight semisquare with Neptune - completely culminating the new phase. Neptune itself rules Pisces which is packed and intercepted within the 3rd house. Neptune's ruler, Jupiter is in Pisces in mutual reception with Neptune. They are in a first quarter phase with one another.

Pluto is in Pisces in the 3rd, again ruled by Neptune and squaring Neptune and Saturn - disseminating square. Mercury is conjunct Pluto and squares Neptune Saturn as well - first quarter square.

The south node of Neptune is conjunct Chiron in Aquarius in the 2nd house and is square to the nodes of the Moon - crescent phase square to the north node in Scorpio in the 11th, disseminating phase square to the south node in Taurus in the 5th. The ruler of the south node of Neptune is Uranus in Scorpio which leads back to Pluto which itself leads back to the Neptune/Jupiter mutual reception.

The north node of Neptune is in Leo in the 8th, also squaring the lunar nodes. The ruler of the north node of Neptune is the Sun in Aquarius in the 2nd house. The ruler of that being Uranus which then leads to the same final rulership as with the south node.

It's great to finally be working on Neptune with this chart because in many ways his Neptune does represent a bottom line in that it is the final ruler, along with Jupiter, of so many planets and houses in the chart.

Quote"Consciousness always exists relative to the nature of any form it exists within"
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This relates to the entire conditioning of the soul: including the totality of all that has conditioned the structural reality of its incarnation, and how the collective consciousness and history of the entire species as well shapes the overall consciousness of the soul. Darwin's very consciousness was structured in such a way that it sought an underlying philosophical, comsmological perspective that weaves together and integrates an understanding of the totality of the human species itself to explain how the total affects of the past have conditioned all the forms of the present moment.

This soul has become depressed upon itself to reflect upon how the existing form came to be. This soul was not just taking the existing form for granted: the balsamic phase with Neptune and Saturn, Neptune culminating in the 12th, and the strong aspects to the Pisces planets. This lifetime symbolized a profound culmination and point of reflection for this soul. This soul was reflecting upon the total history (Saturn) of the entire species and how that history has created the existing forms. The reason for this was based on a deep emotional need to find cosmological consistency, something that he could believe in and thus provide meaning and context to the totality of his life as well as the totality of life itself.

Within the consciousness of Darwin himself is a long standing history of traveling, seeking, investigating, exploring and finding things out for himself. Yet that movement has a foundation on some very deep past unresolved traumas. A part of that links to a past of being part of groups of people that lived together and gathered together in tribes in order to survive: Sn of Neptune in Aquarius in the 2nd. He has a soul memory of such experiences. There was great wounding relative to two dynamics: One, the lack of community support: that in some way there was the dynamic of "each one for them self", a lacking of cooperation and sharing (square to the nodes, Taurus/Scorpio axis) within the communities/tribes he has been a part of. This also relates to where various people, upon being born with particular genetics/physical conditions, would be designated to a particular lot in life and role within the community - sometimes being disregarded entirely. Two, and this feels like a core and fundamental dynamics, where tribes of people, various groups, would compete with other tribes for resources including invasions and desecration of land/posessions. With Chiron on the sn of Neptune with the sn of Chiron itself in Aries in the 4th squaring the Moon this soul has been left alone - abandoned and wounded at a core level. Venus in Aries ruling Taurus on the 6th further adds to the past of being alone and feeling inadequate to survive and make it on his own, not having what he needed, and needing to learn to fend for himself against all kinds of adversity and challenges.

One of the main affects this had on the overall consciousness of the soul is that he would eventually begin to picture the ultimate meaning and purpose of life to be random and meaningless. Eventually, he began to picture reality as being a wide open vast space mandated by total chaos. There would also have been lifetimes in which this soul felt utterly abandoned by God (linked to the affects of the Christianity conditioned lifetimes).

This has also affected the soul's consciousness to the point of experiencing the physical survival elements of life in purely objective, scientific terms: stripped of any love. He eventually dissociated from the sensual and loving relationship to his physical biological reality in order to survive - which itself is linked to a deep loss of innocence due to the dire conditions of survival reality. The current life Moon semi square to Neptune further emphasizes the need for this soul to go inside, get safe, be healed and nourished so that he wasn't just operating on purely mental/objective terms; that he is actually in his body taking care of basic needs. The Moon in so many ways points to how this soul in the life of Darwin was really seeking to ground out and create inner emotional stability after having experienced so much trauma. The semi square being about slowing down and building a life for emotional support and embodiment further emphasizing how much that has lacked in the past.

The implication of this soul having been part of tribes that have traveled/ moved around for the sake of survival is found in Neptune in Sag in the 12th, relative to its south node in Aquarius in the 2nd and its ruler being in Scorpio in the 11th. The underlying cosmology of these tribes was linked to nature itself and navigating with the forces of nature (such as the stars). However with Saturn there with Neptune, and its own sn in Cap in the 2nd, it's clear that progressively these "natural" cosmologies were replaced by man made versions of God that emphasized absolute moral judgments and thus lead to a great repression of all kinds of natural biological human urges. These cosmologies completely separated humans for their personal and direct relationship with nature.

Thus survival, and the fulfillment of basic human needs and urges, became restricted according to patriarchal judgments and constructs of "what is right". Relative to Neptune, this soul has needed to place ultimate meaning of a cosmology that would justify such judgement. In other words he needed to completely identify with a religious construct relative to the extent that he carried guilt about his own basic biological needs.

This created a series of lifetimes where this soul would have, again, been a part of various groups of people that deemed themselves to be "saved" because of the nature of their beliefs (group survival dynamics). This became a religious justification for why some people are well to do, and other people are struggling: because of some sort of invisible God that is rewarding those who deserve it and punishing those who don't. Thus the idea of privilege and status equaling survival and comfort. Again, it brings us back to the sn of Neptune in the 2nd house: issues of survival and ultimate meaning.

As we know, this soul has cyclically been incredibly overwhelmed and distressed by the plethora of questions that would go unanswered. Also, as has been discussed with Saturn, the hypocrisy and moral inconsistencies of the various religious leaders and teachers he was exposed to ultimately lead to a disillusionment.

This disillusionment, relative to the total conditioning of the soul then placed his own personal survival at a very delicate state: how will he survive when there is nothing to believe in?

He has struggled with his own needs for a long time it seems - to survive in a world that, as described above, has no inherent meaning. To cease identification with the church's doctrine places him in a state of groundlessness in terms of where to place his faith. And its clear that there have been past life dynamics of total chaos, living according to no law other than his own - Saturn balsamic to Neptune in Sag in 12th. Creating his own ego-centric reality where the world essentially served him according to whatever his needs were.

Self interest and selfishness, as well as creating trauma for others by way of his self interest was a way of personally working out the loss of meaning in life. Underneath the anarchy was a deep anger and rage at there being no God, nothing to believe in, no one out there to "protect and take care of me". It's a build up of all the trauma and effort this soul has endured to find some sort of meaning as a way of surviving and making his way in the world. Having witnessed and been affected by such evil among many groups of people and such religious corruption has at some point lead to a state of deep anger to the point of giving up on "morality".

Relative to he core egocentric structure of this soul, this has expressed through the psychology of a little boy who is just angry to be out there all alone: Venus in Aries on the IC ruling the sn. It's the Mars in Libra and its square to the Moon as we have discussed that has implied a gravity within his soul to in fact learn cooperation and sharing where he has otherwise gotten "stuck" and in trouble for disregarding "the law". The inner challenge is that while "getting along" nicely in the world was something that he has had to learn - it has also required such a deep repression of all that anger and rage.

His past behaviors of course created great guilt within this soul. The nature of this guilt fundamentally roots in a violation of natural law - which is actually based on the principals of inclusivity, not self interest. The life of Darwin was a healing of that to some extent in which he was able to offer a contribution to society in a way that supported him (livelihood, fame) yet simultaneously served to bring healing and comfort to many many souls in that it offered a cosmological context that held more objective clarity than the blind Christian beliefs of the time. Thus what he offered was a form of forgiveness that stripped away any God-in-sky judgement from reality.

Another dynamic I want to speak to here is one of utter aloneness: Neptune with Saturn in the 12th relative to the sn of Neptune 2nd, with Chiron squaring the nodal axis. This soul has become philosophically/spiritually stubborn and fixed to determine for himself the TRUE nature of things for the sake of his OWN survival. Without a cosmology to back him up, he would be privy to the beliefs of the collective. It is the momentum of the collective beliefs of his time that has propelled this soul to determine the truth out for himself. Otherwise he would be either "lost" or "saved" according to factors beyond his control. Thus his own "survival" mechanism has literally been to utterly detach himself from any perspective, point of view - all the Pisces in the 3rd squaring Neptune - and draw conclusions from his own direct experience.

Quote"However the collective and individual consciousness of the soul defines the source of creation is exactly how the source will be experienced."

First, the nature of that principle is just amazing to contemplate. Darwin's theory of natural selection implies that over time, through a process of natural selection within any species, a species will evolve more and more with the dominant qualities of the traits that are favorable. Within that this also implies that as a species evolves, it will become more and more specialized for a particular ecological niche http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecological_niche (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecological_niche) (preponderance of specific traits as a result of natural selection) which itself can eventually result in the emergence of a new species. This places the notion of "creation" as a process that is shaped entirely by preferences within any species which, by way of the preferences, will dictate the direction and course of any species' evolution. In natural selection there is no intentional choice or ability to direct evolution (as opposed to artificial selection: when humans intentionally breed certain traits in species) but rather only a natural process of any biological species seeking optimal conditions for survival.

This directly points to a relationship with "god" or "source of creation" that is entirely oriented towards the collective intention within all species to survive. It is stripped of love and there is no notion of divine providence, of principals of cause and effect that operate on more subtler planes. This soul would perceive, Pluto Pisces 3rd, reality as having no inherent meaning other than natural biological processes that dictate all of reality. The ultimate meaning and source of creation itself would be the biological impulse to orient towards better life conditions and the evolutionary process that results because of such impulses.

Quote"How the awareness of the Whole by any one Soul can correlate to how that one Soul gives itself to the needs of that Whole in order for that Whole to be served and sustained because of that giving."

As stated, Darwin was supplying a collective need for greater meaning and understanding. At a time when there was a prevalent dogma and, within the consensus, scientific views that tended to always in some way harmonize with the biblical views, Darwin saw himself as on a special mission to, in a sense, save those who are needing to see the truth. He wouldn't have thought of it as "saving" though he would have pictured himself to have a special role to play. His own sn in Taurus in the 5th and the south node of Neptune in Aquarius in the 2nd relative to natal Neptune points to this soul's natural ability and sense of "purpose" to actualize a creative purpose for the masses, all by himself. He would have been devoted to this work - not just for his own personal survival and success (though that was a very real reality for him) but also, deep within because of a true compassion for other humans and a desire to alleviate their own suffering. This is an inherent truth within this soul - as he has faced such immense suffering due to the extremes of religious belief and group traumas. On a purely emotional level, perhaps a level he would not have been able to reconcile with, he would have a feeling of having served a higher purpose that he was destined to serve.

The north node of Neptune being in Leo in the 8th house which by rulership takes us back to the 2nd and then back to the 11th house. This growth for this soul has been and is to "get out of the well" which would perpetuate a very narrow and purely mental scope of life experience. Neptune in Sag in the 12th relative to Leo in the 8th and trining one another is about commitment to share with the world a personal creative actualization which then takes him beyond the narrow scope his own karmic pattern of feeling alienated and not fitting in anywhere. With the ruler, the Sun, being int he 2nd house - it implies a re-creation of his orientation to survival: to share and create something inspiring for the world.

This ultimately adds the dimension of Love. For he loved his work and he found genuine joy and the emotional of connectiveness in pondering and writing about the nature of reality. It's these emotions of joy and connectiveness that are the seeds for this soul's blossoming spirituality which will ultimately re-shape his notion and understanding of survival and evolution itself.

With love
Ari Moshe
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Post by: Rad on Apr 18, 2014, 08:33 AM
Hi Ari,

Thanks for taking the time to do this. I am having real problems in my internet connection: the famous intermittent connection thing. I have to get this resolved before I can respond to anything right now.

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Rad on Apr 21, 2014, 09:48 AM
Hi Ari,

First, thanks again for taking the time to do your EA analysis of Darwin's Neptune, and for the entire amount of time you have committed too that spans this entire thread.

Your EA analysis of Darwin's Neptune is simply wonderful, accurate, and brilliant EA work that ties together the entire birth chart of Darwin relative to the core EA paradigm itself. Because of this you have now created the WHOLE PICTURE of the evolutionary journey of the Soul of Darwin himself.

It is brilliant EA work Ari. Bravo !!

God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Upasika on May 13, 2014, 07:09 AM
Hi Rad,

An update on my situation. I have surgery next week. And I have learnt recently that the prognosis for my surgery rehabilitation is now quite a bit longer than I was initially led to believe. Originally I had planned to be finishing work last week, with this week free to do things for myself before the surgery, including doing the Neptune assignment for Darwin.

But with the recovery time now predicted to be twice as long as I thought I'm having to keep working this week so I have enough money on hand to see me through the longer recovery period when I won't be able to work. So unfortunately this means I simply will not have any time before I go in for surgery to do this last assignment. I'm very sorry about this, it wasn't what I had planned at all.

So if you need to move ahead and finalise the thread without this last one from me I would fully understand of course. But if you are ok to wait till I'm back on my feet I'd make it one of the first things I'd do. It's very hard to predict when that might be though. Initially they said 6 weeks rehab, not able to work, now its been stretched to 8 to 12 weeks. All depends on how well it goes etc.

My apologies, it has caught me by surprise.

blessings Upasika


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Post by: Rad on May 13, 2014, 08:09 AM
Hi Upasika,

Well your health is the most important thing of all. So of course you need to do what you need to do. If you want to do this final segment it is, of course, entirely up to you.


God Bless, Rad
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Post by: Upasika on May 13, 2014, 02:47 PM
Hi Rad,

Well, this thread has been an unexpected kind of journey. As Ari said so well, it has been hugely strengthening, and also I've felt doing it plus learning from everyone else's posts has stretched me to new levels too.

So even though this last part has dragged on a lot, after having got this far and also for the sake of completion for myself, I'm still into doing Neptune. As I say not sure when I'd be able to get to it - in two or three months perhaps. So if from your side you don't mind waiting, then yes, I very much would like to finish it.

However, if that's all a bit too long or far away for you Rad, and you need to move along with things, then I would fully understand and be OK with that.

blessings Upasika
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Post by: cat777 on May 14, 2014, 03:15 PM
  There are moments when I feel like taking a stab at this, but other things get in the way.  One thing that keeps popping into my consciousness when I look at this thread is the phrase "the collective consciousness."

As you point out, " Creationism based on religious doctrine needed to be abandoned."  Darwin lived during a time in which the collective consciousness in relation to western religion was focused on just that, a belief in creationism. This belief was instilled in the collective mind of western man. Darwin with his Neptune/Saturn in Sagittarius in the 12th had a desire to dissolve that belief/conditioning and replace it with with a different truth which he perceived on an unconscious level and communicated facts and data that backed up what sprang from his unconscious mind and intuition.  He also had a desire to communicate his findings and the evidence to back up his theories to the masses.  Most all of this is seen in the placement of Neptune/Saturn in Sagittarius in the 12th and the aspects these planets make to Mercury, Pluto and Jupiter in Pisces in the 3rd. In doing so, he then unconsciously had a major effect on the collective consciousness of the western mind. In challenging a major belief of the collective consciousness, he helped evolve the collective consciousness. It's all quite fascinating how that all played out in his chart, which both you and Ari did a wonderful job of describing!
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Post by: Linda on May 14, 2014, 05:02 PM
Dear Upasika,

All the best with your surgery.
I'll be thinking about you, and
looking forward to the time when
you can continue with us here.

Love always,

Linda
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Post by: Upasika on May 15, 2014, 04:43 AM
Hi Linda,

Thank you very much for your sweet message.
Hopefully it goes very well and I'll be back before long.

blessings Upasika
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Post by: Gray on May 30, 2014, 01:00 AM
Hi Rad,

I am planning to regain focus on writing my post on Neptune this weekend. I hope to have it done this next week, but I also want to develop some ideas I have fully.  I went through a recent job and career change and have been adjusting, but I will be able to start making more time to work on this.  I feel like this topic is huge and so I will do my best to focus on something manageable to develop in writing.

with gratitude,
Gray

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Post by: Rad on May 30, 2014, 07:21 AM
Hi Gray,

Ok, thanks for letting me know.

God Bless, Rad