The Influence Of Evil In Our Lives: Focus On The Asteroid Lucifer

[Steven]

Rad, Sunyata and all,

Thank you for all the sharing and honesty. This thread is probably triggering us all in different ways, and on the positive level, it is certainly helping me better understand this whole concept, and how the dynamics can be seen through the chart. Yet the dynamics do raise further questions for me, which I hope I can articulate here.

In the case of Sunyata's stepson, once again, incarnational experiences of overwhelming suffering, of witnessing the total destruction of all that one holds dear, of observing or enduring unspeakable tortures, and the overall resulting feelings/beliefs of powerlessness are understood as a background which can lead a soul towards the kind of false empowerment that we are defining here as evil (whether fully contracted or not).

Yet what I am trying to understand is the "why" and "how" of these prior lives of such disempowerment and atrocity. In my own development, it is the very existence of experiences like these which serves to undermine my faith in times of crisis-- Do we have truly have options, choices, possibilities and the ever-present ability to connect with God/Source, or not? Is "victimhood" really just an illusion, or not? What exactly is going on in lifetimes of such blatant victimization and appalling suffering? These are not just isolated experiences-- they serve to imprint a fabric of fear into the very matrix of human life. Must we as souls at some point endure every horror that humanity/evil can devise, or not?  Is this a "choice" or is this something truly beyond the incarnational intentions of a soul? What is the soul trying to do, or not do in lifetimes like this?? Elsewhere we speak of masochism, and perhaps this is a good generic term for lifetimes in which one's personal power is so given away prior to incarnation that one "creates" and "attracts" overt victimization and atrocity after atrocity? I really don't know.

I operate with a belief-- which may, of course, be mistaken-- that souls do have some basic awareness of the circumstances, epochs and relationships into which they are about to incarnate. These are chosen for various reasons, although naturally we experience a certain degree of amnesia when we are here, etc.  So again, what is the underlying motivation for a series of lifetimes in which such suffering is experienced?  Is the soul trying to "test" itself in some way, or is it just lost, blindly re-creating dis-empowered life after dis-empowered life until the light breaks through?

I do hope that the general sense of my questions here makes sense.

Thanks again for all the work and sharing here, and I do hope that in the case of Sunyata's stepson, the light-bringing potential is indeed embraced.

Steven

[Rad]

Hi Steven,

Rad, Sunyata and all,

Thank you for all the sharing and honesty. This thread is probably triggering us all in different ways, and on the positive level, it is certainly helping me better understand this whole concept, and how the dynamics can be seen through the chart. Yet the dynamics do raise further questions for me, which I hope I can articulate here.

In the case of Sunyata's stepson, once again, incarnational experiences of overwhelming suffering, of witnessing the total destruction of all that one holds dear, of observing or enduring unspeakable tortures, and the overall resulting feelings/beliefs of powerlessness are understood as a background which can lead a soul towards the kind of false empowerment that we are defining here as evil (whether fully contracted or not).

Yet what I am trying to understand is the "why" and "how" of these prior lives of such disempowerment and atrocity.

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The why and the how has already been stated: "The core problem in his Soul is one wherein in the past lives that he lived that were responsible for the lives in which he experienced all the unspeakable horrors that I alluded too earlier in my response to Ari. In those lives he was akin to what we would call a religious freak wherein he would try to force his ideas of God equaling religion down others peoples throat that of course lead to great harm. This included leading 'armies' into villages in order to destroy or convert them by force. The pillaging, the raping that occurred in this context. So karmically of course his Soul set itself up to experience the exact same thing. And this is where the problem lies: his Soul  was unable to understand the connection between his own actions in the past that then lead to these lives. And thus the consciousness of victimization began within the consciousness of anger that wanted to get back, to seek revenge, against 'enemies' of all kinds. This is when God became a 'cancer'.

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In my own development, it is the very existence of experiences like these which serves to undermine my faith in times of crisis-- Do we have truly have options, choices, possibilities and the ever-present ability to connect with God/Source, or not?

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Of course all Souls do. This is the natural law set in motion by the Creator itself called free choice.

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Is "victimhood" really just an illusion, or not? What exactly is going on in lifetimes of such blatant victimization and appalling suffering? These are not just isolated experiences-- they serve to imprint a fabric of fear into the very matrix of human life.

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The sense of being a victim is very real of course, and the history of human beings certainly offers enough evidence of this fact. If I am a women walking down the street who is suddenly raped I can certainly feel victimized. Yet, in the end, all Souls are responsible for what they create because what is created by all Souls is anchored in and fueled by desire. In the current life of the women who is being raped, in this example, she of course may feel utterly victimized because she does not have conscious memories of his past lives, in most cases, that allows her to see or understand the causative connection to the current life. This is exactly the same for Sunyata's stepson. And what is going on in such blatant lifetimes of victimization and appalling suffering is the very nature of delusions that humans can create for themselves where the nature of the delusions themselves are not recognized for being delusions: they are considered to be reality itself. The very essence of HIStory is full of these tragedies, and horrors. The fabric of fear is thus rooted in the very nature of the delusions themselves and what these delusions can create by way of a 'reality' than then leads to the human suffering itself.

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Must we as souls at some point endure every horror that humanity/evil can devise, or not?

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Not every Soul has to endure every horror that humanity can devise when its being influenced by Satan or Evil itself.

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Is this a "choice" or is this something truly beyond the incarnational intentions of a soul?

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Choices are made in conjunction with the desire nature of all Souls. The desire nature of each Soul thus leads to actions taken upon those desires. Every action taken has an equal or proportionate reaction to that initial action: this is the natural law of karma. Thus, nothing is 'beyond'  the incarnational intentions of any Soul.

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What is the soul trying to do, or not do in lifetimes like this??

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To do or not to do is of course unique to each Soul. Yet, in the end, all Souls desire to understand the 'why' of them: the causative factors. Over time this natural evolution leads to an understanding as to the very nature of the manifested Creation itself.

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Elsewhere we speak of masochism, and perhaps this is a good generic term for lifetimes in which one's personal power is so given away prior to incarnation that one "creates" and "attracts" overt victimization and atrocity after atrocity? I really don't know.

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In fact this is true as long as the consciousness of victimization is linked with the consciousness of guilt wherein the masochistic archetype then desires to atone for that which it considers itself to be guilty of.

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I operate with a belief-- which may, of course, be mistaken-- that souls do have some basic awareness of the circumstances, epochs and relationships into which they are about to incarnate. These are chosen for various reasons, although naturally we experience a certain degree of amnesia when we are here, etc.  So again, what is the underlying motivation for a series of lifetimes in which such suffering is experienced?  Is the soul trying to "test" itself in some way, or is it just lost, blindly re-creating dis-empowered life after dis-empowered life until the light breaks through?

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Yes until the LIGHT BREAKS THROUGH. And that Light is not only the Light of the Natural God/ess or Creator, but the light within one's own Soul that allows for total self awareness as to the nature of it's own desires, the reasons for them, what they have created or lead too by way of the realities created, and thus that which they are responsible for. In this way that inner light and Light then reveals the path back to the Origins of the Soul itself that must be desired for it to be actualized.

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I do hope that the general sense of my questions here makes sense.

Thanks again for all the work and sharing here, and I do hope that in the case of Sunyata's stepson, the light-bringing potential is indeed embraced.

Steven

God Bless, Rad

[treesha]

Treesha,

Forgive me for chiming in on your question to Ari. I want to share how I send prayers in situations like this. I sit quietly and feel a sensation of my heart expanding with love and then beam it out like a broadcast tower towards those who need it. It's worth a try.

Blessings, Maj

Thank-you Maj for offering some guidance:)

[Kristin]

Hi Sunyata,

I have been following this thread and your story but not posted anything until now..I know you are going to need all the help you can get at this time and just wanted you to know I will be praying for you and your family as well. Your courage in this delicate and difficult dance and desire to do right by God is an inspiration to many and will have a visible ripple effect as you move forward.  

Thank you Rad for your tireless efforts to help as only you can do and to teach on the reality of evil.  I know your light is attracting LOADS of opposition at this time as you go to battle yourself on behalf of those suffering and in need. Sending you LIGHT!

As spoken  by JWG, "The only way to defeat evil is with persistence.."

Goddess Bless,
Kristin

[Sunyata]

Hi All,
I am going to post my composite chart with the child here to examine for the sake of understanding this situation in a more thorough way.



And also an update is that because of you guys and this entire conversation I was able to write a letter to his grandparents in a way that explained the nature of the conversation I had with him and how receptive he was to everything we talked about, I wrote about his clear choices and all of the potential healing that could occur with one of the choices. I wrote about everyone needing to be on the same page whenever anyone talked to him, about them needing to remove all judgement about why and all judgement about the past, that this is about his well being and his future, I told them to forward it to the aunts and uncles and the paternal grandfather and the father. I re-read it out loud and it was so completely clear and positive to me that I dont know who they can receive it in any other way. I am going to send it to his social worker and she can forward it to whoever she needs to.

So instead of launching letters that were based in my own anger and frustration at the situation, the fear of the situation,  I was able to comfortably send this one instead.

The family involved in this is very mainstream, to the point of obviously keeping the psychology of the situation one where this is all the mothers fault and that the child does not even have a mood disorder. They have been clearly entrenched in that view for a long time. They refer to me and my perspective as brainwashing their daughter.  So we will see how they respond.

So thank you, all of you, for influencing this in a positive way.

[Rad]

Sunyata,

Composite charts can only be correctly understood relative to the individual synastry charts between two people. You will need to post those. And exactly what is it now that you wish to understand more thoroughly ?

God Bless, Rad

[Sunyata]

Sunyata,

Composite charts can only be correctly understood relative to the individual synastry charts between two people. You will need to post those. And exactly what is it now that you wish to understand more thoroughly ?

God Bless, Rad

If you can post the synastry for me that would great. There was a request for it from Heather. I just thought it would give more perspective about our connection before this life. I saw that in the composite we had Lucifer, conjunct Chiron and the South node forming a square to mars on one side and saturn on the other. I was curious to see what the relationship was prior to this life, leading up to this  current situation. Everyone is having their own revelations about evil through this conversation so I thought this may be helpful.

My birth info is
January 18, 1971
Tucson, Arizona
9:43pm

Thanks.

[Rad]

Here are the synastry charts.

[ari moshe]

Hi all,
I want to state a couple basic transit observations that are meaningful to speak to.

Right now Saturn is on the cusp of entering his 12th house as is the transiting north node of the Moon. Later this year they will both be there - and Saturn's transit through all of Scorpio will bring up all of these karmic dynamics. Basically it's not going to be an easy time for this soul, and this will either be about making a contract or acknowledging the nature of his choices and choosing to heal. It's such a pivotal point in this soul's life. This along with Neptune moving towards his Saturn as Rad pointed out.

His progressed Sun is JUST ABOUT exactly on his natal Jupiter - which correlates to the potential to become more honest about his compulsive lying and manipulative behaviors. His natal Jupiter falls in Sunyata's 3rd house scorpio cusp: which for Sunyata means communicating about these facts clearly and directly.

It's my own experience, and we have all seen this just now with the transit of Lucifer over his Pluto and the healing conversation that took place between him and Sunyata, how important our prayer and desires are. We are all here because of desire - it's our desires that create the total world we live in. When our thoughts are focused we resonate great change in the world we live.

To address something Treesha asked, to me prayer is just being authentic about what we want, letting it come out through the heart. Words are not even necessary. Just the intention, desire and giving that to God with absolute trust, gratitude, no hidden agenda, and openness the whatever the flow may be.

I feel that fear and worry can always be converted to a prayer.

Prayer in community is incredibly powerful and effective. It brings more light into everyone's life and creates more space for us to become aware of God's presence. Tonight I'll be sitting in a tobacco prayer ceremony and I will pray for this boy and this family.

Lastly, I wish to share that it very often occurs to me that I would not at all be where I am today were it not for the prayers and love that others have, often in the silence of their own hearts, bestowed upon me time and time again. Truly that has been my fuel. The forgiveness and compassion of others has given me the gift to love myself once again, and now I get to pay it forward to others as well.

The 12th house relates to disillusionment and confusion about God which is what this soul has experienced but has not healed from. And we all know that it is also about God, prayer and miracles. His progressed Moon is also in Pisces right now, in his 4th house.

And Rad, I feel the same way as Kristin - I really appreciate the way you are showing up to serve for this soul, Sunyata and everyone here. It is a real lesson for me learning from your ways. I also want to say that you are supported by all of our love.
God bless,
am

[Linda]

Sunyata,

I also am sending my prayer to God to heal your step-son.


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I must admit I became rather frazzled at the beginning of this thread especially since Mars had gone Rx in Virgo correlating with many of us confronting karmic patterns of guilt, anger, feeling bad, etc.

The dialogue with Elen had been especially helpful.  About 5 days ago I stopped reading altogether so that I could focus on my MJ assignment.  Yesterday I caught up from where I had left off.

The message of this thread is now bright and clear.  This part was especially ILLUMINATING:  

Rad said:  Yes until the LIGHT BREAKS THROUGH. And that Light is not only the Light of the Natural God/ess or Creator, but the light within one's own Soul that allows for total self awareness as to the nature of its own desires, the reasons for them, what they have created or lead to by way of the realities created, and thus that which they are responsible for. In this way that inner light and Light then reveals the path back to the Origins of the Soul itself that must be desired for it to be actualized.

Beautiful!  Thank you so much Rad, Sunyata, JWG and all participants, for this material which dissolves confusion about God.  Even though it was difficult at the start, I would urge others not to give up.  

Peace,
Linda

[Steven]

Dear Rad and all,

Thank you so much for having the light and patience to answer all my questions, and for the work that is being done here. Rad, your responses certainly clarified my confusion, which seems to have mainly been about the presence or lack of causative connections in lifetimes of overt victimization, and this whole thread has expanded my understanding of what taking responsibility for our creations really means.

I offer my own light and love through thought, intention and prayer to Sunyata, the stepson, and all of you here.

Steven

[Sunyata]

I am so mortified right now. I dont know how it happened but somehow I entered his birth date incorrectly. He was born on the 27th not the 26th. Everything else is the same. I noticed that lucifer was 1 degree different from where I had it but I just assumed that your program was more advanced than astro.com.....then I just was focused on the story, everything is so similar but I just noticed in the synastry his moon in is cancer and I have it in Leo. I went back and found the error. I am so sorry I was caught up in the message and I have seen his chart a thousand times but it was all so close, within small degrees and minutes, even the rising I just assumed it was your program. So very sorry.

[Rad]

Group,

Here is the correct chart. Indeed nothing changes except the Moon now in Leo and conjunct his Mars and Ceres. As such it can be included in the square with his Nodal Axis, thus skipped steps. These are also conjunct his N.Node of Neptune, and square his Scorpio Sun, Venus, and S.Nodes of Venus and Mercury.

These actually intensify all those psychological distortions concerning mothers, and women in general. You can certainly see these symbols as being attracted to violent pornography for example, and the reasons for it that we have tried to uncover and understand here. They also intensify even further those prior lives that we have been talking about. One of the dynamics in his past lives that I did not bring up which contributes to his orientation towards violence with women in general, and his mothers specifically, which is even  more clearly seen through the correction to his Moon, involves him having sex with certain mothers in his past life: his natal Vesta in Cancer in the 8th which is now ruled by his Moon in Leo conjunct his Ceres and Mars. This sex was not the original sacred sex of Vesta from natural times. It manifested through extreme distortions to that archetype manifesting in patriarchal times. He has also been born through a prostitute is his very last life and then abandoned due to having physical deformities. He was placed in an orphanage that was more or less an insane asylum. He died young in this last life, and in that place of horrors.  I am mentioning this because so as to understand the degree of emotional displacement that emanates from these sorts of lives, and the extreme intensity he then manifests at his current life mother.  

God Bless, Rad

[mountainheather]

Hi all,
Thank you Sunyata for the synastry chart. I am gathering my impressions. I do have some questions so I can learn more about the reasons for your relationship with your stepson. Thank you. Heather

[Heidi]

On making a contract with evil:

It can be done alone by way of having actual conversations/ dialogue with the agents of Satan, it can occur through a dialogue with Satan itself

Thanks Rad. Can you elaborate on what Satan and agents of Satan are in this context? My understanding is that Satan is the consciousness of evil? So what is the difference with agents? Are you referring to incarnated souls that have made a contract?

Blessings,
Heidi