The Influence Of Evil In Our Lives: Focus On The Asteroid Lucifer

[Rad]

Hi Heather,

"So I'm wondering about that, if he expands on how to use the Agni fire for cleansing?  
I have some experience with banishing and smudging to energetically cleanse, and I am wondering if this is the same type of thing.  If you cannot comment, thanks all the same!  "

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The Agni ritual is indeed very, very old and comes from India. As far as I know Wolf taught this primarily to sever the karmic umbilical cord between one Soul, and another Soul. Yet it seems that this ritual can also be used for general cleansing purposes as well because, after all, fire will inherently purify the Soul from any source of toxin, including evil. The bottom line in terms of practicing it is very simple: visualize a fire within your third eye, and then project whatever it is that you wish to be purged or purified from within your Soul into the fire until there is nothing left to project. At that point whatever it is should be purged and purified. When it comes down to other Souls that one wishes to break the karmic tie too then simply project WHATEVER IMAGES COME TO YOU ABOUT THAT PERSON INTO THE FIRE UNTIL THERE ARE NO  IMAGES LEFT TO PROJECT. As this is taking place it is essential to affirm the following: I forgive you because I accept the responsibility in my own actions. ( this is rooted in the knowledge in the dynamics within one that is responsible for attracting whatever person in the first place ). At that point the karmic knot is then severed. In conjunction with this it is also important to remove all objects that are associated with that person from one's life. Whatever those objects are, pictures, this or that gift, etc, etc, it is best to either bury them in the ground, throw them into a body of water, or to burn them outright.

God Bless, Rad

[Rad]

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(Q): Is this what we can expect with Pluto in Capricorn?

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Yes."­ ("¬More discussion about the election and the reporting by the media"­)"¬."­ "¬You can see the obvious hypocrisy,"­ "¬the double standards."­ "¬And,"­ "¬that's where evil through Capricorn can manifest,"­ "¬and unfortunately your country has Pluto in Capricorn in it's birth chart."­ "¬Pluto is at"­ "¬27"­ "¬Capricorn in the"­ "¬9th house"­ ("¬media and religion"­)"¬,"­ "¬with the conservative element currently in control.

"­(Q): Have you looked ahead as to what you're expecting from Pluto in Capricorn when it transits in Capricorn?

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬It depends on the choices made between now and when it actually occurs."­ "¬You have to fit it to the existing context,"­ "¬which is determined by the choices that lead to that moment."­ "¬The influence of Lucifer in Capricorn within the individual itself is a perpetual inner feeling of being a crappy person:"­ ""¬I've done something wrong."­ "¬I'm so guilty."­ "¬I must suffer."­"  "¬It's that kind of psychology that actually creates circumstances that validate or prove what the person is inwardly feeling."­ "¬If we look at the opposite sign as the direction for our way out,"­ "¬where would the Bearer of Light come through in this scenario"­? "¬How could they tune into God through that symbol if Lucifer in Capricorn"­? "¬Through the Cancer polarity."­ "¬What does it become"­? "¬What's the message"­? "¬The whole message of Cancer is to strip away all the need for social power and acceptance and to go deep inside to find the meaning that you're seeking."­ "¬It's to penetrate to the mystery and veil of your own soul and to rebuild yourself from the inside out"­; "¬that's the message."­ "¬From a spiritual view,"­ "¬in many of those cases,"­ "¬it would mean to orient oneself to some sort of spiritual system that's emphasizing the Divine Mother or femininity,"­ "¬vs."­ "¬the archetypical Father God."­ 

We'll get into Lucifer in Aquarius and/or the"­ "¬11th house now."­ "¬How would we see the influence of Lucifer manifesting through the Aquarian,"­ "¬11th house,"­ "¬Uranian archetype"­?

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Rebellion"­?

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Rebellion itself isn't necessarily a negative or an evil."­ "¬Rebellion can be an incredibly positive thing."­ "¬Two words that have been associated with Aquarius are bizarre and perverse."­ "¬Do you know what the etymology of those words is in most cases"­? "¬To revolutionize."­ "¬That's what they used to mean."­ "¬How the English language has chosen to understand it,"­ "¬present it and judge it is now very different."­

Lucifer in Aquarius is using whole groups of people or situations to benefit oneself."­ "¬They just arrested some clown up in Washington--an ultra con-man--who bilked people out of millions of dollars."­ "¬He had a way of presenting himself to get people to invest in a new business and then take the money and run."­

And,"­ "¬there was the case we had this morning,"­ "¬where the man with Lucifer in Aquarius met women over the Internet."­ "¬In fact,"­ "¬we have another case that goes back to Kansas."­ "¬Apparently some S&M type was making postings in these Use-Net groups,"­ "¬and I guess there was some S&M group,"­ "¬and some woman responded and then went out to Kansas,"­ "¬which was where he lived."­ "¬I checked this man's chart,"­ "¬and he had Lucifer in Aquarius."­ "¬What he did was meet women on the Internet and then get them hooked and invite them to his home in Kansas."­ "¬Then,"­ "¬literally,"­ "¬over a period of days or weeks,"­ "¬he tortured them to death."­ "¬He just got busted."­ "¬So,"­ "¬you can see the Aquarian application.

"­(Q): You would have to be able to detach yourself from your emotions to do that kind of thing to someone else, wouldn't you?

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬No."­ "¬Those kind of people are totally involved with their emotional life in a distorted sense,"­ "¬from a sadistic point of view."­ "¬Sadists believe people deserve the pain that they're administering,"­ "¬that they actually deserve it,"­ "¬which is the engagement point with their emotional body.

"­(Q): So, rather than being detached, they're very, very focused?

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Right."­ "¬That's the only way they can focus."­ "¬Think about that."­ "¬Think how distorted that is.

"­(Q): They're so repressed they can't feel, and so it takes more and more for them to access their emotions?

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Exactly."­ 

Discussion about how this would include militia groups,"­ "¬groups who believe the end of the world is coming,"­ "¬etc.

"­(A): A good illustration of that is a really funny story. I guess there was some self-appointed prophet in Korea who was claiming that the world was going to end at midnight on a certain day a few years ago. This was specific to Korea, and there must have been about 20,000 people or so who believed him. They all gathered at the same point at midnight and waited for the end of the world to happen. And, midnight came and went, and they were still here. Can you imagine what they're going through at a traumatic level? They set themselves up to die, and here they were still living. 

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Didn't they arrest him"­?

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Yes."­ "¬To me,"­ "¬the guy that should be in prison is Rev."­ "¬Moon.

"­(Q): He still has followers, though.

"­(A): Yes, he does. One of the women that had married his son, I think it was, did a whole expose of what goes on within the family. Are you familiar with that? Here they are trying to present themselves as religious icons, while, according to this ex-wife of Rev. Moon's son, reveals that they have all kinds of sexual orgies and that drugs are rampant. She reported that this is what goes on in their actual home. And, look how he's presenting himself to the world. This is the classic hypocrisy of religion. It's no different than Pope Innocent III in the 13th century, who had a working brothel in the Vatican. That's an historical fact.

Another example of the form of evil that Lucifer in Aquarius manifests through is the German doctors in the concentration camps in World War II who were"­ ""¬medically experimenting on people."­" "¬Or there was the War where they had all these American prisoners and others,"­ "¬and they were testing various bacterial agents to see what the effects would be."­ "¬There's the example of doing random testing with the original LSD,"­ "¬and not telling people they were being given the LSD."­ "¬There are documented cases where people committed suicide because of this."­ "¬And,"­ "¬in order for the end to justify the means,"­ "¬the government said,"­ ""¬We need to do this for national security purposes."­" "¬That means they can kill somebody and get away with it."­ "¬The point is to create trauma"­; "¬they have a motive to create trauma to another."­

It can manifest in the form of all these stupid religious terrorist groups,"­ "¬especially now with Pluto in Sagittarius,"­ "¬because the danger is not going to be through nuclear weapons"­; "¬it's going to be through bacterial warfare."­ "¬After all,"­ "¬it takes only one guy to go to downtown L.A."­ "¬and release the little vial of something that would have the potential of killing the entire population of L.A."­ "¬You don't need"­ "¬$10"­ "¬million to build a nuclear bomb"­; "¬it's much cheaper to use bacterial agents,"­ "¬and much easier to sneak them around."­ "¬That's where you need to keep your eyes focused."­ 

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Especially with Pluto in Sagittarius,"­ "¬which represents contagion.

"­(A): Contagion is an Aquarius phenomenon. Behavioral contagion. Or, the contagion of disease. That's an Aquarius phenomenon. An example is the 1920s when Hitler came to power. We had Uranus transiting Pisces, so he created a behavioral contagion by creating and persecuting a group of people (Uranus); and you saw the contagion of behavior. We have a Leo polarity point. What do we see as potential antidotes by way of the Bearer of Light? How would the Leo serve as a counteracting point? It just starts with individuals stepping outside of themselves in order to objectify.  In other words, you can't change this pattern until you eliminate the emotional content that creates the pattern. You have to eliminate that emotional content through objectification, through detachment, which presumes a desire to do so. It is in that way that people regain control of their psyches, their souls, through Leo. 

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬So with the polarity point of the Leo archetype,"­ "¬you would get in touch with the emotions and,"­ "¬so to speak,"­ "¬with one's charismatic hero"­?

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬It depends on what archetype you orient to."­ "¬If you link to the group problem,"­ "¬typically,"­ "¬Lucifer in Aquarius is going to manifest in this group or this group,"­ "¬as we're right and they're wrong,"­ "¬which turns this group upon that group."­ "¬The whole polarity point of Leo means what"­? "¬To honor the individual realities of all groups."­ "¬There's no one more right or wrong."­ "¬That's the amazing thing in your election here."­ "¬Don't you find it rather startling that Bush carried no city"­? "¬He did not win one major U.S."­ "¬city,"­ "¬not one."­ "¬What he did win was the people living in the farmlands."­ "¬In other words,"­ "¬the majority of all people in all big cities voted for Gore."­ "¬The majority of people living in the farmlands,"­ "¬as in the Kansas types,"­ "¬voted for Bush."­ "¬What does that tell you about a massive line of polarization in your country as a total population"­? "¬We're talking Aquarius stuff here."­ "¬And here we have Uranus and Neptune transiting Aquarius."­ "¬Remember,"­ "¬you also have to deal with the natural squares and oppositions--Scorpio,"­ "¬Taurus,"­ "¬Leo."­ "¬You can see these lines of polarization before our eyes."­ "¬You see it"­? 

Think about that more deeply in terms of what value associations that equate to."­ "¬People who live in the Kansas-type of environments have a very limited view of reality,"­ "¬let's face it."­ "¬They want that reality to be everybody's reality."­ "¬People who live in the city,"­ "¬by definition,"­ "¬are much more cosmopolitan."­ "¬When you live in the city,"­ "¬you're exposed to diversity."­ "¬Living in the city requires you to think more."­ "¬You're exposed to newspapers."­ "¬You're exposed to this clown in the street barfing."­ "¬You've got this over here,"­ "¬and that over there,"­ "¬etc."­ "¬You tend to generate a much more expansive consciousness that honors diversity."­ "¬It is more aware of social issues,"­ "¬what the whole needs."­ "¬That's very different than living off in your little isolated farm somewhere in Montana,"­ "¬in which your reality's determined by the limitation of your own environment."­ "¬Do you see what I'm getting at"­? "¬Now we have this basic division in our country,"­ "¬and it was brought to a head in this election."­ "¬So,"­ "¬it's not a good sign for the future,"­ "¬friends.

Lucifer in Pisces."­ "¬The worst form of this symbolism the influence of evil could manifest through in Pisces is having the person create one delusion or illusion after the other,"­ "¬and every delusion or illusion that is created is considered the ultimate meaning that the person has always been seeking."­  "¬It's like chasing windmills."­ "¬The intent of evil is to keep the person away from Spirit or God by creating the illusion that the meaning that they're seeking is in this new manifestation of this or this or this."­ "¬Another way that it typically manifests,"­ "¬especially in women,"­ "¬is sometimes when the Lucifer's in Pisces in a woman's chart,"­ "¬she may weekly,"­ "¬or sometimes daily,"­ "¬alter how she looks."­ "¬One day she looks conservative like a Capricorn businesswoman."­ "¬Two days later you see her with flaming hair and you say,"­ ""¬My God,"­ "¬what happened"­?" "¬Other forms that Lucifer in Pisces can manifest through are extreme paranoia,"­ "¬extreme schizophrenia,"­ "¬agoraphobia,"­ "¬any manner of psychological disintegration."­ "¬You can have the symbol of a true possession with Lucifer in Pisces"­; "¬your soul's literally taken over."­  "¬You can have the manifestation of Lucifer,"­ "¬of evil,"­ "¬through fanaticism."­ 

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Couldn't it also manifest through an intensification of a victim consciousness"­?

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Yes."­ "¬For example,"­ "¬on the TV talk shows like Oprah Winfrey,"­ "¬when you listen to these people's problems,"­ "¬they're always presenting themselves as a victim."­ "¬Always."­ "¬Do you ever hear her ask the people on her show,"­ ""¬Why did you need to create that"­?" "¬So,"­ "¬the antidote through Virgo is what"­?  "¬If you're dealing with the nature of illusions and delusions,"­ "¬believe it or not,"­ "¬God will operate in that person's life through the manifestation of disillusionment."­ "¬An illusion created,"­ "¬the bubble is burst,"­ "¬and the person goes from one existential crisis to the next."­ "¬Again,"­ "¬the intent of disillusionment is to realign us with actual reality."­ "¬God's grace in that context is bursting the bubbles."­ 

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬To put it another way,"­ "¬could you say mental discernment through Virgo"­?

(A"­)"¬:"­  "¬Yes."­ "¬Obviously,"­ "¬with the Pisces symbol in mind,"­ "¬evil can truly manifest through the temptation of drugs and alcohol."­ "¬As we're going through these things,"­ "¬all of you have Lucifer somewhere in your chart."­ ("¬Positive response from a few audience members"­)"¬."­ "¬Right on."­ "¬At least you're honest."­  "¬The antidote is discrimination."­ "¬It is God operating in such a way as to create disillusionment"­; "¬what we can call--this nice shamanistic word--learning how to be"­ "˜"¬impeccable."­' "¬Impeccable means absolute self-honesty."­ "¬Impeccability here means being that which you actually are"­; "¬you're not misrepresenting yourself."­ 

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Which is quite different from perfection.

"­(A): Yes.

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬So,"­ "¬it requires total honesty and responsibility for who you are and what you create.

"­(J):  Exactly. And, it requires being faithful to who you are, without compromise. That's a nice word, isn't it, impeccability?  I like that.

Aries."­  "¬How could evil manifest through Aries"­?

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Very easily through martial,"­ "¬war-like fighting,"­ "¬a kind of belligerence.

"­(A): Belligerence itself is not evil.  It's not a nice thing, but it's not evil.

"­(Q): Picking fights on weaker people?

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Do you mean the bully syndrome"­? "¬Yes."­ "¬Absolutely."­ "¬It could,"­ "¬for example,"­ "¬create a false sense of self-importance."­ "¬We can certainly see this implicated through Mr."­ "¬Bush,"­ "¬with a first house Pluto and Lucifer transiting his first house."­ "¬He clearly thinks of himself as more important than he actually is."­ "¬That's why one thing the media does do once in a while is say,"­ ""¬Hey,"­ "¬look how arrogant this creep is."­" "¬Look at the little snicker on his face,"­ "¬the superior arrogance."­ "¬I'm going to leave Bush alone right now.

"­(Q): Can you share any of where he's been prior to this life to create this person?

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬No."­ "¬Right now,"­ "¬I'm not allowed to tell you that."­ "¬There are certain boundaries I have to honor."­ "¬It's not a pretty picture,"­ "¬but I can give one little snapshot."­ "¬I'll just invent a story,"­ "¬and maybe you'll put it together."­ "¬Do you remember a time in our country when we had blacks as slaves in the south,"­ "¬and the white superior race running them,"­ "¬i.e.,"­ "¬plantation owners who would do whatever they want,"­ "¬especially to the black women"­? "¬I'll just leave it right there."­ "¬Maybe you get the point,"­ "¬without naming names.

How else could it manifest through Aries"­? "¬Bully syndrome"­ "¬-"­ "¬yes."­ "¬Arrogance and power"­ "¬-"­ "¬yes."­ "¬Thinking one's more self-important"­ "¬-"­ "¬yes."­ "¬What else"­?  "¬It could manifest,"­ "¬especially through men,"­ "¬as sexual predators,"­ "¬where sex is actually an act of power,"­ "¬by way of dominance."­ "¬It can manifest through emotional misrepresentation to an existing intimate other or a potential intimate other."­ "¬Misrepresentation."­ "¬Aries always wants what it wants when it wants it."­ "¬If this is sexualized through a man,"­ "¬you can see where that would lead."­ "¬I've seen in in women too,"­ "¬and I've actually had women who had this symbol tell me the following,"­ ""¬I'm going out on a sexual hunt."­" "¬A sexual hunt."­ "¬But,"­ "¬the excitement's always in the hunt,"­ "¬isn't it"­? "¬They promise something they can't follow through on.

"­(Q): I still don't know how you got that with Aries.

"­(A): Because the higher octave of Aries is Scorpio--manipulation. What's the antidote through the Libra polarity point? The antidote is to realize that other people's needs and realities are as equally important as one's own. It's changing from a consciousness of using people for one's own purposes, to a consciousness of giving to someone in accordance with what the person actually needs instead of the delusion: "I'm giving to you because here's what you need and I know it. I think I know what you need." 

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Could part of Lucifer in Aries bring people into your life who are like that"­?

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Yes."­ "¬In other cases,"­ "¬it can manifest as a loosening of the will to live."­ "¬It can correlate to someone who's virtually killing herself"­; "¬effecting violence on herself."­ 

On to Taurus."­ "¬One of the underlying influences of evil through Taurus is an undermining sort of activity that keeps the person involved with what is minimally necessary to do just to keep their life going."­ "¬Minimal involvement"­; "¬just enough to keep the life going."­ "¬It's an ultimate form of laziness,"­ "¬procrastination,"­ "¬minimal effort,"­ "¬the sloth syndrome."­  "¬It can manifest as using other people's resources to benefit oneself,"­ "¬and doing whatever necessary to gain those resources."­ "¬It can manifest in any manner of weird sexual perversion."­ "¬Taurus is the sexual instinct in all of us that is rooted in the instinct to procreate"­ ("¬Taurus"­)"¬."­ "¬Once you latch Lucifer onto that natural instinct,"­ "¬then you can see where sexuality could go."­ "¬One of the potential applications of this would be this thing called snuffing,"­ "¬where the person's killed."­ "¬We can see that through Lucifer in Taurus."­ "¬We can see that also through Lucifer in Scorpio,"­ "¬by the way."­

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬What is snuffing"­?

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬It's where they kill the person at the moment of climax."­ "¬I can't even begin to imagine how that would get somebody off."­

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Didn't you have a client in Germany like that"­?

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Yes."­ "¬I've had some doozies of clients."­ "¬I used to tell all my clients,"­ ""¬You can tell me anything you want and it stays here."­" "¬Many of my clients treat me as a confessor-priest type of person."­ "¬And,"­ "¬one of the worst cases I had to deal with in terms of controlling my own impulses,"­ "¬was when I had a client,"­ "¬a sadist,"­ "¬confess that he'd done certain things to a woman and it got out of control,"­ "¬so to speak."­ "¬He was willing to tell me in quite a bit of detail what he had done."­ "¬I just wanted to take the guy and"­  "¬strangle him."­ "¬The case was also being reported in the news.

"­(Q): What did you do?

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬I tried to be as cool and professional as I could be,"­ "¬because I made the mistake."­ "¬I have to own that for myself."­  "¬I had a massive dilemma on my hands,"­ "¬but the fact is,"­ "¬I told him first,"­ ""¬You can tell me anything."­" "¬So,"­ "¬that's what I had to honor."­ "¬Since then,"­ "¬believe me,"­ "¬I've done it differently."­ "¬You can tell your clients that,"­ "¬but you can then also tell them,"­ ""¬If you tell me something that's against the law,"­ "¬my duty is to report you,"­" "¬which is in fact the law in certain places.

The antidote of Taurus,"­ "¬of course,"­ "¬comes through Scorpio."­ "¬The whole issue of the antidote here is manifesting a desire to understand the nature of your psychology,"­ "¬how and why you're put together the way you are,"­ "¬and,"­ "¬most importantly,"­ "¬being willing to own it."­  "¬That's the key."­ 

Gemini."­  "¬One application that can happen is when one sibling forces another sibling to have sex."­ "¬It can manifest as trying to control and limit ideas."­ "¬Gemini is the archetype that's susceptible to the newest cultural fad,"­ "¬or the next grooviest thing to do."­ "¬The problem in Gemini is that they get so hooked up with the newest,"­ "¬grooviest thing to do,"­ "¬that if they orient to it through the influence of evil,"­ "¬they violate their own natural nature."­ "¬For example,"­ "¬in the late"­ '"¬60s when all the hippie stuff was happening,"­ "¬the free love syndrome and all that"­ ("¬Uranus in Libra--Free Love"­)"¬,"­ "¬if you were a Gemini in that scenario,"­ "¬the typical Gemini just hops on the bandwagon."­ ""¬Oh groovy--free love."­"  "¬What if that was a violation of their own nature"­? "¬Through Gemini,"­ "¬Lucifer can manifest as that temptation to follow the next grooviest thing"­; "¬that's going to be the meaning that you're seeking."­ "¬It can manifest through fickleness."­ "¬It can manifest by saying one thing to one person and an altogether different thing to the next person."­ "¬Different stories that aren't based in truth."­ "¬It can manifest,"­ "¬frankly,"­ "¬as outright lies."­ "¬The person can present the lie as the truth,"­ "¬and then try to convince others of that"­ ""¬truth,"­" "¬of that lie."­ 

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Could it manifest as extreme mischievousness"­?

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Yes."­ "¬The antidote is through Sagittarius."­ "¬The ultimate archetype of Sagittarius is honesty,"­ "¬at all costs."­ "¬You've all heard the American cliché,"­ ""¬The truth will set you free,"­" "¬whatever that truth may be."­ "¬That's the antidote to Gemini."­ "¬The antidote through Sagittarius is for the person to completely tune into who they naturally and actually are,"­ "¬and then to live that truth instead of the facade of Gemini."­ 

Next,"­ "¬we come to ever-secure Cancer."­ "¬This becomes very graphic through the case of Mr."­ "¬O.J."­ "¬Simpson."­ "¬Here's a man who has his Sun and Mercury in Cancer,"­ "¬and Jupiter in Scorpio."­ "¬This is a case of what's called pathological jealousy,"­ "¬which manifests through this bizarre male attitude,"­ ""¬If I can't have you,"­ "¬nobody will."­" "¬It's an extreme form of emotional possession,"­ "¬which can degenerate beyond normal jealousy into pathological jealousy."­ "¬When it becomes pathological,"­ "¬the person takes action upon it,"­ "¬just as O.J."­ "¬Simpson did."­ "¬One thing they never told you about O.J."­ "¬Simpson was that while he was out being with any woman he wanted to,"­ "¬he expected his wife to be monogamous.

This is a black man."­ "¬If you look at it through the Capricorn polarity,"­ "¬Capricorn"­  "¬-"­ "¬because what determines the color of the skin is a physiology called melanin,"­ "¬which is a variation of melatonin,"­ "¬which manifests out of your pineal gland"­ "¬-"­ "¬and in Capricorn this manifests,"­ "¬because Capricorn connects to iron,"­ "¬and this is why you have black skin implicated through Capricorn."­  "¬Here you have a man with this Cancer energy,"­ "¬the polarity point of which is Capricorn,"­ "¬and his defense team used the black card,"­ "¬or race card,"­ "¬as a defense."­ "¬Do you see how it's working now"­?  "¬I think most of us would agree the guy probably did it,"­ "¬yes"­? 

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Didn't he confess in one of the statements that he gave"­?

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Yes,"­ "¬he did."­ "¬He actually did confess at one point."­ "¬Does anybody feel that this guy was actually innocent"­? ("¬Nobody did"­)"¬."­ "¬The point here is that evil manifests through the emotional body with Lucifer in Cancer."­ "¬Anything that's linked with your emotional body can,"­ "¬in fact,"­ "¬be influenced with Lucifer in Cancer,"­ "¬and can set in motion any manner of emotional distortions,"­ "¬and the emotional behaviors that are a reflection of those distortions."­ "¬The problem with Lucifer in Cancer is that the individual does not have a clue that Lucifer is taking over a particular emotional state and is intensifying and distorting it."­ "¬They don't have a clue because the emotional state is natural to them in the first place."­ "¬So,"­ "¬they simply get lost to it."­ "¬The worst forms that appear are emotional,"­ "¬demonic people."­ 

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Wouldn't this be the person that would manipulate his or her environment"­?

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Yes."­ "¬Totally so."­ "¬There are so many factors."­ "¬It can correlate to a person being born to a mother who herself is being influenced by evil,"­ "¬and through her own emotional distortions affects this child through her behavior."­ "¬There are just so many ways to look at the darned thing."­ 

The antidote for Cancer is Capricorn--learning to emotionally mature."­ "¬They're not just perpetually little babies,"­ "¬they have to grow up."­ "¬They have to accept the responsibility for their own actions."­

What happens when we start dealing with the aspects Lucifer's making to other planets"­? "¬What happens when,"­ "¬for example,"­ "¬Lucifer's in Virgo,"­ "¬but it's in a Sagittarius house,"­ "¬and it's making aspects to X,"­ "¬X,"­ "¬and X"­?  "¬These all become portals,"­ "¬or vehicles,"­ "¬in which this influence can exist."­ "¬Very quickly,"­ "¬through synastry,"­ "¬it means that wherever your partner's Lucifer is landing in your natal chart is where they bring that individual influence into your life in the area of your consciousness or reality that,"­ "¬through synastry,"­ "¬that Lucifer lands in."­ "¬Do you see it"­? "¬Conversely,"­ "¬that very same symbol can equal a partner,"­ "¬through the Bearer of Light archetype,"­ "¬who can truly bring the spark and awareness and inspiration of God into your life."­ "¬When you link this through composite charts,"­ "¬you're going to have a combined Lucifer with somebody"­; "¬it's going to be in a house and a sign,"­ "¬and in a very similar way,"­ "¬this is where the couple,"­ "¬as a unit,"­ "¬can experience the influence of evil in a destructive,"­ "¬self-undermining way,"­ "¬or conversely,"­ "¬a direct channel in their own unique way to God."­ "¬Or,"­ "¬God could actually be helping the relationship."­ "¬I know this from my own reality."­ "¬I had a partner,"­ "¬and we had a combined Lucifer in our"­ "¬11th house in Virgo."­ "¬She was a person that had been highly traumatized prior to my meeting her"­; "¬I'd been highly traumatized in my own life,"­ "¬of course."­ "¬The"­ "¬11th house is trauma,"­ "¬and we have a combined Lucifer in the house of trauma."­ "¬There were many traumas we created together,"­ "¬but at every point that would almost lead to separation--I mean to packing--to the last heels out the door thing--always in the last minute,"­ "¬God would intervene."­ "¬Every single time."­ "¬At critical mass moments,"­ "¬the flip side,"­ "¬the Bearer of Light,"­ "¬would appear."­ "¬I know how it works."­  "¬Evil manifests as wanting to blame another,"­ "¬never itself."­  "¬It supports the consciousness of victimization and vindictiveness and getting back.

OK."­ "¬So,"­ "¬did you guys get a little more understanding of this Lucifer thing and how to work with it"­?  "¬All I would suggest that you do is just to do the traditional astrology thing."­ "¬Work with it for a while."­ "¬Observe it,"­ "¬correlate it,"­ "¬connect it to world events,"­ "¬connect it to your own life,"­ "¬connect it to friends that you know."­ "¬Watch its movement."­ "¬Then you will develop your own awareness and knowledge and information about this archetype."­ "¬It is something that we all need to keep our eyes on."­  "¬Again,"­ "¬99%"­ "¬of evil is unseen--unnoticed.

I certainly appreciated you guys as a group,"­ "¬and have"­ a nice day.

[Elen]

I guess self knowledge and committment to God are the best protection ultimately. Perhaps when we get to "the bearer of light" part it will feel a little better too.

Thank you for the continuing support here.

Heather

Hi Heather,

Just wanted to comment on this because it became clear to me last night that self-knowledge is really important.  (Rad, if this is wrong, please correct!)  To my surprise the darkness and doubt was starting to creep in again last night.  I was surprised because I thought I had really come to the other side of it.  And at some point, much to my surprise (and even more so to the guides who are present in my life!....lol!), I said, "I want to know who I am."  It was like an inner realization that expressed itself in those words, which was both a statement to myself and also a request.  JWG talks about the importance of ego and how it is a mistake to try to get rid of it.  I think if you don't have an ego, if you're working to rid yourself of it, you make yourself vulnerable to the influence of evil because you have no anchor within yourself without it.  Hard to put into words.  But when I said, "I want to know who I am", the darkness was gone, and there was an inner strength that was there along with an inner peace, as opposed to a weakness that has been the norm, and an inner discord and thus always the need to be "rescued".  Hard to explain.  Maybe this is not helpful for anyone, but it was such a huge epiphany for me, I wanted to share it.....

Peace,
Ellen

[mountainheather]

Hi Rad,

The Agni ritual is indeed very, very old and comes from India. As far as I know Wolf taught this primarily to sever the karmic umbilical cord between one Soul, and another Soul. Yet it seems that this ritual can also be used for general cleansing purposes as well because, after all, fire will inherently purify the Soul from any source of toxin, including evil. The bottom line in terms of practicing it is very simple: visualize a fire within your third eye, and then project whatever it is that you wish to be purged or purified from within your Soul into the fire until there is nothing left to project. At that point whatever it is should be purged and purified. When it comes down to other Souls that one wishes to break the karmic tie too then simply project WHATEVER IMAGES COME TO YOU ABOUT THAT PERSON INTO THE FIRE UNTIL THERE ARE NO  IMAGES LEFT TO PROJECT. At that point the karmic knot is then severed. In conjunction with this it is also important to remove all objects that are associated with that person from one's life. Whatever those objects are, pictures, this or that gift, etc, etc, it is best to either bury them in the ground, throw them into a body of water, or to burn them outright.

God Bless, Rad

Oh this is very good, very helpful, thank you for sharing it.  I imagine this would apply to past life memories of people and situations as well?

Heather

[mountainheather]

Hi Ellen,

Hi Heather,

Just wanted to comment on this because it became clear to me last night that self-knowledge is really important.  (Rad, if this is wrong, please correct!)  To my surprise the darkness and doubt was starting to creep in again last night.  I was surprised because I thought I had really come to the other side of it.  And at some point, much to my surprise (and even more so to the guides who are present in my life!....lol!), I said, "I want to know who I am."  It was like an inner realization that expressed itself in those words, which was both a statement to myself and also a request.  JWG talks about the importance of ego and how it is a mistake to try to get rid of it.  I think if you don't have an ego, if you're working to rid yourself of it, you make yourself vulnerable to the influence of evil because you have no anchor within yourself without it.  Hard to put into words.  But when I said, "I want to know who I am", the darkness was gone, and there was an inner strength that was there along with an inner peace, as opposed to a weakness that has been the norm, and an inner discord and thus always the need to be "rescued".  Hard to explain.  Maybe this is not helpful for anyone, but it was such a huge epiphany for me, I wanted to share it.....

Peace,
Ellen

Thank you Ellen for being willing to work with this, and for your questions.  I wish you continued progress in finding strength and peace in your soul. Heather

[Elen]

Hi Heather,

"So I'm wondering about that, if he expands on how to use the Agni fire for cleansing? 
I have some experience with banishing and smudging to energetically cleanse, and I am wondering if this is the same type of thing.  If you cannot comment, thanks all the same!  "

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The Agni ritual is indeed very, very old and comes from India. As far as I know Wolf taught this primarily to sever the karmic umbilical cord between one Soul, and another Soul. Yet it seems that this ritual can also be used for general cleansing purposes as well because, after all, fire will inherently purify the Soul from any source of toxin, including evil. The bottom line in terms of practicing it is very simple: visualize a fire within your third eye, and then project whatever it is that you wish to be purged or purified from within your Soul into the fire until there is nothing left to project. At that point whatever it is should be purged and purified. When it comes down to other Souls that one wishes to break the karmic tie too then simply project WHATEVER IMAGES COME TO YOU ABOUT THAT PERSON INTO THE FIRE UNTIL THERE ARE NO  IMAGES LEFT TO PROJECT. At that point the karmic knot is then severed. In conjunction with this it is also important to remove all objects that are associated with that person from one's life. Whatever those objects are, pictures, this or that gift, etc, etc, it is best to either bury them in the ground, throw them into a body of water, or to burn them outright.

God Bless, Rad

Hi Rad,

So this could work for illness, also?....

[Steve]

Hi Ellen

A few thoughts came to mind when reading your recent post

To my surprise the darkness and doubt was starting to creep in again last night.  I was surprised because I thought I had really come to the other side of it.

We have all had these deep unnatural patterns burned into us for thousands of years.  We have made them part of our reality, part of our self-image.  When the breakthrough begins, it is simultaneously liberating and scary.  Scary because the old is all we know.  Feeling messed up has been the norm.  We have forgotten how to be any other way - thus scary.  When its dissolving, who am I supposed to be now?  Being that wounded person is all I know (or remember, at least).   So it comes and it goes.

The thousands of years of past are not going to miraculously all disappear in two glorious weeks!  It is a PROCESS, step by step, inch by inch, with determination to change, no matter what the cost, no matter what is required.  That, what I just wrote, is the positive application of Virgo - a process, step by step, little by little.  Whether you are feeling the glorious sun or are lost again in the darkness, to keep moving forward regardless of circumstance, with determination to change the patterns of the past.

And at some point, much to my surprise (and even more so to the guides who are present in my life!....lol!), I said, "I want to know who I am."  It was like an inner realization that expressed itself in those words, which was both a statement to myself and also a request.  

This to me is a focal point you are naturally finding within yourself, something you can integrate around.  When it gets dark again at times, when you feel guilty or dark or inadequate, it doesn't matter.  Make "I want to know who I am" something like a mantra that you can pull yourself back to the central focus of he changes that are occurring in you.

JWG talks about the importance of ego and how it is a mistake to try to get rid of it.  I think if you don't have an ego, if you're working to rid yourself of it, you make yourself vulnerable to the influence of evil because you have no anchor within yourself without it.  Hard to put into words.

Trying to get rid of one's ego is like trying to get rid of one's head.  You can't really exist without it.  The very idea of getting rid of a so-called bad ego is a lose-lose situation.  You can't live without your head, and you can't live without your "ego" because it is your individualized sense of who you are.  The issue is not to lose your ego but to purify your ego, to purge it of the false thoughts, beliefs, guilts, fears, that it has absorbed down through time.  And by purify I mean in the NATURAL sense, not to get rid of all blemishes you have that are impossible to remove, but to move towards self-acceptance of how you are at this moment in time, not some idealized patriarchal standard that is impossible for anyone to live up to.

 To accept, as Rad says, the inherent imperfection not only of yourself but of that which created you.  As Jeffrey used to say why would a perfect God make imperfect creations?   That makes no sense at all, unless you believe God wants to see us suffer just for amusement.  If that which created us is imperfect how is it possible for us to be perfect?  So it comes to ACCEPTING SELF AS WE FIND OURSELVES.  Accepting myself as I am, and simultaneously holding the desire to self-improve, through awareness of the places in me that are not yet perfected.  And, this imperfection does not mean I am defective.  It means I am evolving, and there is still room to go.  This is a complete change in the nature of one relationship with self - taurus.  To take stock of one's strengths and weaknesses, to accept, and to determine as you said, to want to know self, ever more and more - who am I really?  Not all this guilt and pain I have ingested and falsely believed is who I am.  Who am I really?  That is the journey and the answers come in a process, not a single event.

But when I said, "I want to know who I am", the darkness was gone, and there was an inner strength that was there along with an inner peace, as opposed to a weakness that has been the norm, and an inner discord and thus always the need to be "rescued".

And that is the beginning of a great shift, a reintegration.  Now you have a technique (Virgo) you can begin to use to hold focus when clarity momentarily disappears.  Something to start integrating is, as you are making this inner change, IT WILL NEVER AGAIN BE AS IT HAS BEEN.  You may need many experiences of the living proof of that before it becomes an integrated part of who you.  None the less, that has begun.  The important point is you have walked through the gateway, and now its just a matter of time, little by little.  Just keep going, no matter how dark it gets at times.  Because your will, the new choices you make, have the potential  to be stronger than any obstacle.  Just... keep... going.  "I want to know who I am" - that is a natural teaching that poured right out of your own inner teacher...  the perfect lesson/message for you at this time.
Steve

[Elen]

Hi Steve,

I really appreciate your thoughts on this and especially your caring enough to post in support of me and my process (and anyone else who comes along and who will find benefit in what you have said).  I will continue on my journey with tools and techniques in hand and look forward to the next new epiphanies that help me carry on with the process of love and change.

Peace,
Ellen

Addition:  And thanks for the reminder that moving through the darkness is a process and that it is not WRONG when this happens.

[mountainheather]

Hi Steve, oh thank you so much for your reply to Ellen, you've articulated so much what I feel to be true and yet unable to put into words about this process.  The "value is in the effort" and "start where you are" are the mantras that keeps me returning again and again to the tools and techniques for addressing these obstacles, dark corners and shadowy influences.

In this quote:

To accept, as Rad says, the inherent imperfection not only of yourself but of that which created you.  As Jeffrey used to say why would a perfect God make imperfect creations?   That makes no sense at all, unless you believe God wants to see us suffer just for amusement.

This made me recognize the resentment and anger I have creeping around my subconscious towards God for betraying creation, for making us capable of murder and destruction of the planet, that its some kind of cosmic joke and we're the brunt of it. Wow, glad that got flushed to the surface for me to work through, since this is clearly not God's will. It just shows me how the influence of evil can use our weakness to separate our hearts from the truth. 

Thank you all again for the steadfast support in finding God here.

Heather
 

[Lucius]

Ellen, I want to thank you for your contribution and soul baring in this thread. It takes courage to ask the questions you do and be honest with your own struggles and doubts. I truly appreciate this. Many of your questions I too have wondered at or thought of either recently or in the past but have not the courage to open up.

souls that are vulnerable (which is probably all of us just about!) need to be especially careful and wary with the influence of evil  - it can be subtle and uses your own innate good and love against you. It can make you feel bad for not having compassion toward it, for instance. It uses this masochism that is built from lifetimes of wrong judgements to twist yourself in on yourself - that you are responsible for the suffering of the world, that you are accountable for circumstances out of your control  - that you are bad and especially bad if you cannot have compassion for evil. I will leave compassion toward evil for God to decide - happily that's not my provenance.

I too have thought how heartbreaking it is that souls are preyed upon in their weakest hour (I won't go into my opinion on that right now) - and I was thinking 'what a bum rap' so to speak - but, it occurred to me that our natural birth right is a contract with God - we naturally are 'given' to Love and God/dess unless WE break it. It's not as if we are out there alone - evil just makes us believe that and forget our original contract, with God.

I've come to a happy virgo median of not worrying if I'll be punished enough - I figure that'll happen in the course of natural law - so, I may as well do my best & take what comes versus fretting that I'm not suffering enough, or that I don't 'deserve' love and all that hogwash. It takes a long time for our ego's to incorporate deeper knowledge and experience.

It's difficult to understand intellectual words - but, I think if you chose, in your dark hours you can look to this thread and your own insights to help you through. Just last night I realized I felt it was inevitable that evil would 'get me' - I have no idea why I'd have that idea, a subconscious idea until then - but, once I confronted it I realized how silly it was and that as long as I held fast, over time, I'd conquer it - that THAT was what was inevitable if I chose it. However, the conscious thought that I would conquer evil, over time, again & again, as the case may & will be made me frightened in and of itself. I was making a declaration - but, God will help me. And you. 

Thank you again for your questions and insight - and Rad's responses and patience. And to Steve's great post. I am very thankful for this topic - one of my favorite cliche's or phrases is the term to 'not like shooting in the dark' - I don't like it, this helps me not to do it!

[Rad]

HI Heather,

"Oh this is very good, very helpful, thank you for sharing it.  I imagine this would apply to past life memories of people and situations as well?"

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Well you can't remove the memories, no. In terms of severing the karmic umbilical cord yes.

God Bless, Rad

[Rad]

Hi Ellen,

"So this could work for illness, also?...."

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No, it's not meant for that purpose. On the other hand you can always try because by creating a consciousness of affirmation, desiring for the sickness to be removed, can certainly help in the healing process.

God Bless, Rad

[Rad]

This is the last part of the transcript...........Rad

Lucifer Workshop"­ - "¬Lucifer through the signs

I think what we'll do now is just run Lucifer through all the signs."­ "¬Would you like to do that"­? "¬

We can start with where it is right now,"­ "¬in Leo."­ "¬And,"­ "¬remember,"­ "¬we also have a collective application,"­ "¬as well as an individual application."­ "¬What happens when Lucifer transits Leo"­? "¬What is the potential pitfall that any of us could get involved with that would implicate the possible influence of evil"­? "¬It's what's called the me-me-me syndrome."­ "¬If your focus was Lucifer in Leo,"­ "¬it's through concentrating on just what I need,"­ "¬what I want,"­ "¬what's going to benefit me--the self-glorification problem--that the influence of Lucifer,"­ "¬evil,"­ "¬can occur."­ "¬There's a sense in certain cases of what we call the Zarathustra complex as developed by Nieztsche--the sense of being super-human."­ "¬That's the basis of Zarathustra."­ "¬What Nieztsche wanted to create was a society run by what he called super-humans,"­ "¬or Zarathustra,"­ "¬who were all served by the collective mass."­ "¬That became the model for Hitler,"­ "¬for example."­ "¬

When Lucifer is in Leo,"­ "¬you can have this delusion of self-grandeur,"­ "¬to think that you're larger or more important than you are,"­ "¬and that everything is meant to serve your purpose."­ "¬We can certainly see this illustrated in our current election via Bush."­ "¬In his particular distorted reality,"­ "¬of course he's president."­ "¬How can there be any question"­? "¬I don't know how many of you are aware of what's going on with Bush,"­ "¬but for people who know him personally,"­ "¬the reports are now that he's incredibly pissed."­ "¬The objective fact is that this guy is trying to appoint himself President:"­ "¬To have his brother appoint him President."­ "¬That sounds a little distorted,"­ "¬doesn't it"­; "¬to be that desperate for power"­? "¬What if the vote comes out in Gore's favor and this is authorized by the court system"­? "¬Then you have these Republicans saying,"­ ""¬We're not going to pay attention to this"­; "¬we're just going to make our own decisions and appoint him,"­" "¬which means to anoint him."­ "¬Now,"­ "¬does that sound like your American system"­? "¬Yes or No"­? "¬And if it doesn't sound like your American system,"­ "¬what is this"­? "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Then the masks are coming off and he's being exposed."­ "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬That's the point."­ "¬With Pluto in Sagittarius,"­ "¬anyone who is trying to bullshit,"­ "¬lie or deceive,"­ "¬will have their mask removed."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Is Lucifer conjunct your Sun similar"­? "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Yes,"­ "¬it can operate that way."­ "¬In any case,"­ "¬with Lucifer transiting Leo,"­ "¬the main thing to guard against in the individual life is to see what the whole structure of your life requires,"­ "¬what benefits all people,"­ "¬not just you."­ "¬That's the way to get out of that potential pitfall."­ "¬

Let's put Lucifer natally in Virgo."­ "¬What would be the real potential influences of evil that could occur if we have Lucifer in Virgo"­? "¬What would be the kind of messages we could anticipate the psyche receiving through the influence of evil"­? "¬There's something wrong with me."­ "¬It will reinforce guilt with messages like,"­ ""¬You've done this,"­ "¬you've done that."­" "¬You're not good enough."­" "¬It manifests through messages of blame,"­ "¬over and over and over,"­ "¬like a drum beat."­ "¬Another specific way is that it creates doubt where doubt is not appropriate,"­ "¬which then serves as a vehicle of undermining an experience that you would need to benefit your growth."­ "¬

Through the polarity of Pisces,"­ "¬where would the Bearer of Light come through"­? "¬It is now going to be teaching the use of your Virgo mind to validate yourself vs."­ "¬undermining yourself through doubt."­ "¬And loving yourself."­ "¬Virgo can get so consumed with what happened,"­ "¬with what's right,"­ "¬what's wrong,"­ "¬that it tends to over focus on the past and what are perceived as problems."­ "¬The Bearer of Light symbol is to focus on solutions,"­ "¬not the problems themselves."­ "¬If you focus on the solutions to those problems,"­ "¬the problems take care of themselves."­ "¬That's the magic way out of Virgo's trap,"­ "¬to focus on the solution rather than the problem."­ "¬Positives have a way of creating negatives moving forward,"­ "¬vs."­ "¬the compulsive focus on the negative and the negative only."­ "¬

One of the greatest words that you would find if you had Lucifer in Virgo--"­ "¬the greatest word in the person's vocabulary--would be the word"­ ""¬but,"­" "¬which is an undermining word."­ "¬And,"­ "¬another famous word for the delusion of the Lucifer in Virgo are the words,"­ ""¬I can't."­" "¬The Pisces solution is,"­ ""¬I can."­" "¬Simple adjustments."­ "¬And,"­ "¬of course,"­ "¬there's this whole delusion called perfection,"­ "¬and here's a related problem."­ "¬Typically,"­ "¬the Lucifer in Virgo would have for many lifetimes set up a structural reality in their consciousness defined by the delusive idea of what is right"­ "¬-"­ "¬wrong"­ "¬-"­ "¬perfect."­ "¬How I should be doing this"­? "¬How I should be doing that"­? ""¬Should bes."­" "¬And,"­ "¬very rarely can any of us fulfill our own"­ ""¬should bes."­" "¬It would be nice to postulate,"­ "¬but since most of us can't get there,"­ "¬it reinforces the sense of being inadequate."­ "¬There's something's wrong with me."­ "¬I'm not good enough,"­ "¬I'm not able to do this."­ "¬It's a continuously reinforcing tape to remind the individual just exactly what a piece of crap they are."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬It's true."­ "¬I have to say that I have a conjunction with Lucifer and Vesta in Virgo,"­ "¬along with my Moon and South Node,"­ "¬and this was my life story up until the change."­ "¬I'd be happy for every little turd that came my way."­ "¬So,"­ "¬I have to say,"­ "¬thank you."­ "¬I just have to confirm this."­ "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬It's reality."­ "¬See,"­ "¬that's the neat thing again,"­ "¬because what we're talking about friends,"­ "¬is Natural Law."­ "¬She didn't require a belief system to understand what I just said,"­ "¬she used it through the validation of her own life experience."­ "¬It didn't require a belief or any philosophy."­ "¬It's her actual life experience,"­ "¬and that's the beauty when you work with Natural Law."­ "¬You don't have to believe it,"­ "¬you're just already living it."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬So,"­ "¬when you're stuck in perfectionism,"­ "¬is the opposite of perfectionism to give yourself some slack"­? "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬It's to realize that there's no such thing as perfection."­ "¬Who decides what perfection is"­? "¬What's the standard of perfection"­? "¬These are illusions."­ "¬For example,"­ "¬you could listen to Mozart,"­ "¬and somebody with a Virgo ear would say,"­ ""¬Oh,"­ "¬he could have played it better right over here in this riff."­" "¬And,"­ "¬it's in fact already complete unto itself and already perfect."­ "¬There's nothing to improve there."­ "¬Do you know what I mean"­? "¬It's perfect enough as it already stands."­ "¬The real path out of that Virgo delusion is through action--action."­ "¬The story I like for Virgo is the story of the centipede."­ "¬Imagine that this creature has a"­ "¬100"­ "¬legs on it."­ "¬It's fine as long as it keeps walking,"­ "¬but as soon as it tries to analyze or try to figure out how leg"­ "¬46"­ "¬works in the sequence,"­ "¬of course,"­ "¬you have paralysis."­ "¬And,"­ "¬that's the problem you have with the delusive question for perfection in Virgo."­ "¬It turns into paralysis."­ "¬The little moral of that Virgo story is action,"­ "¬to just keep walking."­ "¬It's in the action,"­ "¬the doing,"­ "¬that relative perfection can occur."­ "¬It can't be invented with the mind."­ "¬

Another delusion with Lucifer in Virgo is never feeling ready enough or good enough to do what the Pisces polarity,"­ "¬God,"­ "¬is directing the soul to do."­ ""¬I'm not good enough yet,"­" "¬is the delusion,"­ "¬which reinforces the sense of inferiority."­ "¬It sets into motion unnecessary comparisons to authority figures they would respect,"­ "¬but it only reinforces the inferiority"­; ""¬I'm not as good as that."­" "¬So,"­ "¬they're perpetually reduced to inaction,"­ "¬because they're never good enough."­ "¬The whole way out of that trap door is,"­ "¬again,"­ "¬by putting one foot in front of the other."­ "¬On a cosmological level,"­ "¬it goes back to what we were discussing last night"­ ("¬lecture on Virgo as the archetype of self-improvement"­)"¬:"­ "¬to realize in the end that this thing we call God is an evolving force."­ "¬Once that is emotionally integrated,"­ "¬then rather than being this incredibly hyper-self-critical individual inside,"­ "¬then you become much more emotionally compassionate with yourself."­ "¬Meaning everybody on earth has blown it."­ "¬We've all made mistakes."­ "¬Even God,"­ "¬believe it or not."­ "¬

What do you think the basis of the Great Flood is"­? "¬God was ticked off at its own creation and wanted to redo it."­ "¬That's God´s prerogative."­ "¬And,"­ "¬that's actually the basis of Christian history."­ "¬That's why they think that real history only started"­ "¬12,000"­ "¬years ago."­ "¬In fact,"­ "¬what that correlates to in historical terms is truthful:"­ "¬great floods all over this earth."­ "¬They actually occurred."­ "¬They're documented."­ "¬That's the legend of Noah's Ark,"­ "¬and this is when God literally wanted to recreate its creation."­ "¬We had the Great Flood to wipe it all out,"­ "¬and that's where Christian history starts."­ "¬So,"­ "¬in that sense,"­ "¬they're accurate"­; "¬but,"­ "¬from the standpoint of dismissing the balance of human history,"­ "¬everything that came before,"­ "¬this is clearly delusory--what they now call Creationism."­ "¬You know,"­ "¬you now have a state in your country here,"­ "¬one of the states that only teaches creationism--Kansas."­ "¬They don't allow the teaching of evolution."­ "¬This means that a religion is determining the education of the public in the state of Kansas."­ "¬And this is supposed to be in country with separation of church and state."­ "¬Pretty heavy stuff."­ "¬There you see Pluto in Sagittarius:"­ "¬trying to control ideas."­ "¬That decision occurred when Neptune and Uranus were still in Capricorn."­ "¬

When you study history,"­ "¬you find out shocking facts."­ "¬The great library of Alexandria was burnt down by fundamental Christians in"­ "¬399"­ "¬A.D."­ "¬while Uranus was transiting Capricorn."­ "¬They rebuilt it in"­ "¬698"­ "¬A.D."­ "¬It was burnt down again by fundamental Christians when Uranus was transiting Capricorn:"­ "¬the control of ideas."­ "¬At that point,"­ "¬the Alexandria library was the repository of all the written existing human knowledge,"­ "¬which they managed to wipe out,"­ "¬under the banner of the Cross."­ "¬What's the analogy to Kansas,"­ "¬as we speak"­? "¬

Let's put Lucifer in Libra."­ "¬This is your workshop,"­ "¬so how do you think Lucifer,"­ "¬or the influence of evil,"­ "¬would manifest through the archetype of Libra"­? "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬By not listening to other people"­? "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬In that sense,"­ "¬they would presume that they thought,"­ "¬or felt that they knew,"­ "¬what other people actually needed,"­ "¬without actually listening to make that determination from the point of view of the person's actual reality."­ "¬They try to impose:"­ ""¬You need this,"­" "¬which is a reflection of the delusion of Libra by way of security issues."­ "¬The Libra archetype at that level has a need to be needed in order to feel emotionally secure within him or herself."­ "¬The person says,"­ ""¬Oh,"­ "¬I understand what you need."­" "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬It would be a strong manipulation."­ "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Yes."­ "¬What would be another application"­? "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬A peace at any price."­ "¬Don't make waves."­ "¬Trying to balance"­? "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Yes."­ "¬That can be."­ "¬Peace at all costs."­ "¬Doing whatever's necessary to keep the peace,"­ "¬but that also allows for reality not to be acknowledged."­ "¬What would be another application of Lucifer in Libra"­? "¬It comes through the delusion,"­ "¬the emotional feeling,"­ "¬that they don't have a right to have their own needs met,"­ "¬that their only task is to fulfill other people's needs,"­ "¬and reinforcing that message over and over and over."­ "¬Through the polarity point of Aries the teaching is to learn how to validate,"­ "¬honor and have one's own needs met in the context of relationships,"­ "¬in such a way that all peoples"­Â´ "¬needs are met equally,"­ "¬rather than through the extremity of who's always just meeting someone else's needs."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬So the person's need is a negative state because he or she needs to be validated by,"­ "¬or feel that their worth is dependent upon,"­ "¬other people."­ "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Yes."­ "¬It's like the worst form of Betty Crocker."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬When I think of Libra,"­ "¬I always think of how they like things too beautiful to be willing to do something like take out the garbage."­ "¬It's not pretty enough to handle,"­ "¬so please don't ask them to do something as mundane as removing it."­ "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬That's quite true."­ "¬They want the Virgos to remove it."­ "¬Another classic way that Lucifer manifests through Libra--and this is something that any of us need to be careful of--is through what we call the silver-tongued-devil types of this world."­ "¬You know,"­ "¬the real smooth talkers with all the charm,"­ "¬who try to ensnare you or hook you in some fashion."­ "¬This is the type that says,"­ ""¬I know what you need."­ "¬Believe me,"­ "¬trust me."­ "¬I know what you need."­" "¬You've probably all run into those types in your life."­ "¬And,"­ "¬they deliver themselves with such great sincerity,"­ "¬and such magnificent charm,"­ "¬and,"­ "¬of course,"­ "¬we want to get sucked into that."­ "¬It's what we call the silver-tongued-devil problem."­ "¬Through Lucifer in Libra,"­ "¬the archetype of the silver-tongued-devil or the susceptibility to that archetype can occur."­ "¬

For those who have been subjected to that kind of person--whether you're male or female makes no difference--how many of you indeed experienced that they did know what you needed"­? "¬Or,"­ "¬was there,"­ "¬in fact,"­ "¬another agenda going on"­? ("¬No one responded"­)"¬."­ "¬Examples are:"­ "¬Jim Jones"­ ("¬Pluto in"­ "¬7th"­); "¬Rajneesh"­ ("¬4"­ "¬or"­ "¬5"­ "¬planets in Capricorn in the"­ "¬7th"­); "¬Claire Prophet"­; "¬J.Z."­ "¬Knight"­ ("¬dominant"­ "¬7th house"­)"¬."­ "¬

Let's run Lucifer through ever-understandable Scorpio."­ "¬You have the total spectrum in Scorpio:"­ "¬everything from the pure ecstasy of God-realization to the horror of horrors manifested through the most intense forms of evil,"­ "¬and all the combinations therein."­ "¬So,"­ "¬where could evil manifest specifically on an archetypical level with Lucifer standing in Scorpio"­? "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Any thing done with sex."­ "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬No,"­ "¬because you can have passion for God."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬I know."­ "¬But,"­ "¬it's intense feelings."­ "¬Not just passion,"­ "¬but the intensity of the emotion behind it."­ "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬That's not going to be the issue,"­ "¬because the issue there is the orientation to what you're describing."­ "¬That's intrinsic to Scorpio."­ "¬It's necessary for Scorpio."­ "¬It's part of the Scorpio experience."­ "¬What we want to look at is the orientation."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬I think of extreme control issues due to the fear of lack of control."­ "¬

(J"­)"¬:"­ "¬Yes,"­ "¬or doing anything to obtain power at all costs."­ "¬I had a client who was part of the German Mafia."­ "¬He had an"­ "¬8th house Pluto in Virgo,"­ "¬and a variety of other things."­ "¬The guy had many lifetimes of wanting,"­ "¬of desiring,"­ "¬this intense social power of status and wealth,"­ "¬but because of Pluto in Virgo,"­ "¬he did not feel he had the capacity within himself to get it."­ "¬Simultaneous to that,"­ "¬he had lifetimes where he experienced people who had all this status,"­ "¬wealth and power,"­ "¬which created in him"­ "¬8th house jealousy,"­ "¬vindictiveness,"­ "¬wanting going to get back at people due to his consciousness of victimization through Virgo."­ "¬This became the causative factor in his forming bonds with the German Mafia:"­ "¬to obtain,"­ "¬in a legal sense,"­ "¬those very same desires."­ "¬Now,"­ "¬we can see that this is the influence of evil,"­ "¬through the"­ "¬8th house."­ "¬

Typically,"­ "¬the Mafia creates a"­ ""¬front"­" "¬through things like restaurants."­ "¬So,"­ "¬this man decided to establish restaurants,"­ "¬but he would always solicit funds for the restaurants by lying--getting people to believe what they wanted--to get the money,"­ "¬so he could start the restaurant."­ "¬That's evil."­ "¬To me,"­ "¬a simple way to understand evil in a general sense is if any of us find in our hearts and souls at any time,"­ "¬an intent to hurt another,"­ "¬or an intent to screw somebody over,"­ "¬or an intent to take advantage of somebody."­ "¬That's evil."­ "¬If all of us look at ourselves honestly in our own mirrors,"­ "¬I think that most of us would have to say at various points in our lives there have been some times when there was the temptation to think exactly in those terms,"­ "¬because of the buildup of rage,"­ "¬which itself presumes victimization."­ "¬If you take full responsibility for your own life,"­ "¬you will not have those psychologies."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬So,"­ "¬another Lucifer archetype in Scorpio would be a raging"­; "¬somebody doing evil through rage."­ "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬A perfect example would be using sex as a form of power."­ "¬It could be the stalker."­ "¬It could be the raper."­ "¬It could be the sadist."­ "¬It could be the torturer."­ "¬It could be the person taking glee in creating hurt and pain for another,"­ "¬really enjoying it."­ "¬For example,"­ "¬when some Israeli soldiers were killed recently,"­ "¬their brains were taken out."­ "¬I have a friend in Tel Aviv who sent me the actual pictures of what had happened,"­ "¬because it was in the Israeli media."­ "¬If you had looked at what they had done to these bodies:"­ "¬that is truly evil."­ "¬And another example of that kind of thing is blowing up a bus of school children because the Party of"­ ""¬God"­" "¬told me to do this."­ "¬And,"­ "¬you're now killing innocent school kids"­? "¬Because God told you to do so"­? "¬So,"­ "¬that's an example of God"­ ""¬speaking"­" "¬to somebody,"­ "¬which is just a reflection of what their own subjective agenda is."­ "¬God is never going to direct anybody to kill anybody,"­ "¬no matter how just it may be."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬So,"­ "¬the ultimate power of a killer with Lucifer in Scorpio would be an assassin,"­ "¬killer."­ "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬A terrorist on the freeway."­ "¬It can be gaining other people's resources through illegal or deceptive means."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬What would be the antidote for Lucifer in Scorpio"­? "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬The real antidote is to have the desire to examine the causitive factors in your own emotional psychology,"­ "¬which then enforces the Taurean application:"­ "¬radically altering the inner relationship to yourself."­ "¬To radically alter the inner relationship to oneself by understanding the nature of one's psychology and why,"­ "¬and then owning it."­ "¬

Let's move on to Sagittarius."­ "¬The real issue of the influence of evil through Sagittarius is to feel that whatever your particular philosophy,"­ "¬cosmology,"­ "¬religion or intellectual way of organizing reality is,"­ "¬is absolutely the right and only way,"­ "¬which then sets in motion the Billy Graham archetype:"­ "¬the need to convince and convert."­ "¬Imagine all the judgments issued if you're not towing the line and conforming to that point of view."­ "¬That's how it manifests."­ "¬Another delusion of the influence of Lucifer in Sagittarius is the false messiah syndrome."­ "¬Somehow,"­ "¬these people think they have a direct pipeline to God,"­ "¬and they say so."­ "¬An example of that would be all this televangelism on TV."­ "¬Remember our old friend Jimmy Swaggert"­? "¬He's still involved with prostitutes."­ "¬He's a hopeless case."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬But he cried well."­ "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬And was ever so sincere--Sagittarius."­ "¬The antidote is through the opposite sign,"­ "¬and that is,"­ "¬of course,"­ "¬that this thing we want to call truth,"­ "¬is,"­ "¬in fact,"­ "¬relative."­ "¬Einstein himself,"­ "¬who was a Pisces,"­ "¬said the following:"­ ""¬The only absolute reality is relativity itself."­" "¬Think about that."­ "¬The only absolute is relativity itself."­ "¬In the end,"­ "¬that is the liberation point"­; "¬i.e.,"­ "¬the Bearer of Light."­ "¬It's that somehow this message of the relativity of truth gets through to the consciousness."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬I have Lucifer in Sagittarius in the"­ "¬3rd house."­ "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Where that influence can come in is through allowing other people to tell you what to think."­ "¬If you have Lucifer there,"­ "¬that's where the direct influence could occur:"­ "¬somebody trying to control or shape your own natural way of how you think about something."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬My husband wants me to think like him."­ "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬There you go."­ "¬Or,"­ "¬we can have Capricorn,"­ "¬and we can illustrate this through the story of the Marquis de Sade."­ "¬This man did,"­ "¬in fact,"­ "¬have Lucifer in Capricorn,"­ "¬along with his Saturn."­ "¬Now,"­ "¬what would be a common application in this heavy archetype of Capricorn"­? "¬How would you see this manifesting"­? "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Dominance and control"­? "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Dominance and control."­ "¬What else"­? "¬It specifically manifests through the delusion that the ends justifies the means used."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Well,"­ "¬that's the whole Hitler thing."­ "¬That's any kind of strong leader,"­ "¬whether it be a school master or a leader of a nation,"­ "¬who is bent on a goal and just terrorizes the populace."­ "¬It's basically the archetype of terrorizing the populace."­ "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Right."­ "¬Exactly."­ "¬And from another point of view of Capricorn,"­ "¬evil can create a psychology within the person that's defined by the perpetual psychology of self-defeat--what's the point"­? "¬This could degenerate into a feeling of complete futility,"­ "¬and,"­ "¬therefore,"­ "¬a progressive loss of a will to live."­ "¬Chronic depression."­ "¬An illustration is in the classic story"­ ""¬The Seagull"­" "¬written by Anton Chekov."­ "¬There was a woman character in this story who was always dressed in black."­ "¬One day somebody walked up to the woman and asked,"­ ""¬Why are you always dressed in black"­?" "¬Here comes the Lucifer in Capricorn answer:"­ ""¬I'm in mourning for my life."­" "¬It can also manifest through one of the most problematic dimensions of Capricorn called hypocrisy."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬That sounds like Congress."­ "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Exactly."­ "¬It can operate at a collective level."­ "¬That's what I mean about really understanding what's going on in your country right now."­ "¬There's a power grab by the Republicans."­ "¬They will take power at all costs."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬And,"­ "¬they're accusing the Democrats of trying to steal the election."­ "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬That's what they do:"­ "¬They demonize that which they themselves are doing."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Is this what we can expect with Pluto in Capricorn"­? "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Yes."­ ("¬More discussion about the election and the reporting by the media"­)"¬."­ "¬You can see the obvious hypocrisy,"­ "¬the double standards."­ "¬And,"­ "¬that's where evil through Capricorn can manifest,"­ "¬and unfortunately your country has Pluto in Capricorn in it's birth chart."­ "¬Pluto is at"­ "¬27"­ "¬Capricorn in the"­ "¬9th house"­ ("¬media and religion"­)"¬,"­ "¬with the conservative element currently in control."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Have you looked ahead as to what you're expecting from Pluto in Capricorn when it transits in Capricorn"­? "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬It depends on the choices made between now and when it actually occurs."­ "¬You have to fit it to the existing context,"­ "¬which is determined by the choices that lead to that moment."­ "¬The influence of Lucifer in Capricorn within the individual itself is a perpetual inner feeling of being a crappy person:"­ ""¬I've done something wrong."­ "¬I'm so guilty."­ "¬I must suffer."­" "¬It's that kind of psychology that actually creates circumstances that validate or prove what the person is inwardly feeling."­ "¬If we look at the opposite sign as the direction for our way out,"­ "¬where would the Bearer of Light come through in this scenario"­? "¬How could they tune into God through that symbol if Lucifer in Capricorn"­? "¬Through the Cancer polarity."­ "¬What does it become"­? "¬What's the message"­? "¬The whole message of Cancer is to strip away all the need for social power and acceptance and to go deep inside to find the meaning that you're seeking."­ "¬It's to penetrate to the mystery and veil of your own soul and to rebuild yourself from the inside out"­; "¬that's the message."­ "¬From a spiritual view,"­ "¬in many of those cases,"­ "¬it would mean to orient oneself to some sort of spiritual system that's emphasizing the Divine Mother or femininity,"­ "¬vs."­ "¬the archetypical Father God."­ "¬

We'll get into Lucifer in Aquarius and/or the"­ "¬11th house now."­ "¬How would we see the influence of Lucifer manifesting through the Aquarian,"­ "¬11th house,"­ "¬Uranian archetype"­? "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Rebellion"­? "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Rebellion itself isn't necessarily a negative or an evil."­ "¬Rebellion can be an incredibly positive thing."­ "¬Two words that have been associated with Aquarius are bizarre and perverse."­ "¬Do you know what the etymology of those words is in most cases"­? "¬To revolutionize."­ "¬That's what they used to mean."­ "¬How the English language has chosen to understand it,"­ "¬present it and judge it is now very different."­ "¬

Lucifer in Aquarius is using whole groups of people or situations to benefit oneself."­ "¬They just arrested some clown up in Washington--an ultra con-man--who bilked people out of millions of dollars."­ "¬He had a way of presenting himself to get people to invest in a new business and then take the money and run."­ "¬

And,"­ "¬there was the case we had this morning,"­ "¬where the man with Lucifer in Aquarius met women over the Internet."­ "¬In fact,"­ "¬we have another case that goes back to Kansas."­ "¬Apparently some S&M type was making postings in these Use-Net groups,"­ "¬and I guess there was some S&M group,"­ "¬and some woman responded and then went out to Kansas,"­ "¬which was where he lived."­ "¬I checked this man's chart,"­ "¬and he had Lucifer in Aquarius."­ "¬What he did was meet women on the Internet and then get them hooked and invite them to his home in Kansas."­ "¬Then,"­ "¬literally,"­ "¬over a period of days or weeks,"­ "¬he tortured them to death."­ "¬He just got busted."­ "¬So,"­ "¬you can see the Aquarian application."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬You would have to be able to detach yourself from your emotions to do that kind of thing to someone else,"­ "¬wouldn't you"­? "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬No."­ "¬Those kind of people are totally involved with their emotional life in a distorted sense,"­ "¬from a sadistic point of view."­ "¬Sadists believe people deserve the pain that they're administering,"­ "¬that they actually deserve it,"­ "¬which is the engagement point with their emotional body."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬So,"­ "¬rather than being detached,"­ "¬they're very,"­ "¬very focused"­? "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Right."­ "¬That's the only way they can focus."­ "¬Think about that."­ "¬Think how distorted that is."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬They're so repressed they can't feel,"­ "¬and so it takes more and more for them to access their emotions"­? "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Exactly."­ "¬

Discussion about how this would include militia groups,"­ "¬groups who believe the end of the world is coming,"­ "¬etc."­ "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬A good illustration of that is a really funny story."­ "¬I guess there was some self-appointed prophet in Korea who was claiming that the world was going to end at midnight on a certain day a few years ago."­ "¬This was specific to Korea,"­ "¬and there must have been about"­ "¬20,000"­ "¬people or so who believed him."­ "¬They all gathered at the same point at midnight and waited for the end of the world to happen."­ "¬And,"­ "¬midnight came and went,"­ "¬and they were still here."­ "¬Can you imagine what they're going through at a traumatic level"­? "¬They set themselves up to die,"­ "¬and here they were still living."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Didn't they arrest him"­? "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Yes."­ "¬To me,"­ "¬the guy that should be in prison is Rev."­ "¬Moon."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬He still has followers,"­ "¬though."­ "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Yes,"­ "¬he does."­ "¬One of the women that had married his son,"­ "¬I think it was,"­ "¬did a whole expose of what goes on within the family."­ "¬Are you familiar with that"­? "¬Here they are trying to present themselves as religious icons,"­ "¬while,"­ "¬according to this ex-wife of Rev."­ "¬Moon's son,"­ "¬reveals that they have all kinds of sexual orgies and that drugs are rampant."­ "¬She reported that this is what goes on in their actual home."­ "¬And,"­ "¬look how he's presenting himself to the world."­ "¬This is the classic hypocrisy of religion."­ "¬It's no different than Pope Innocent III in the"­ "¬13th century,"­ "¬who had a working brothel in the Vatican."­ "¬That's an historical fact."­ "¬

Another example of the form of evil that Lucifer in Aquarius manifests through is the German doctors in the concentration camps in World War II who were"­ ""¬medically experimenting on people."­" "¬Or there was the War where they had all these American prisoners and others,"­ "¬and they were testing various bacterial agents to see what the effects would be."­ "¬There's the example of doing random testing with the original LSD,"­ "¬and not telling people they were being given the LSD."­ "¬There are documented cases where people committed suicide because of this."­ "¬And,"­ "¬in order for the end to justify the means,"­ "¬the government said,"­ ""¬We need to do this for national security purposes."­" "¬That means they can kill somebody and get away with it."­ "¬The point is to create trauma"­; "¬they have a motive to create trauma to another."­ "¬

It can manifest in the form of all these stupid religious terrorist groups,"­ "¬especially now with Pluto in Sagittarius,"­ "¬because the danger is not going to be through nuclear weapons"­; "¬it´s going to be through bacterial warfare."­ "¬After all,"­ "¬it takes only one guy to go to downtown L.A."­ "¬and release the little vial of something that would have the potential of killing the entire population of L.A."­ "¬You don't need"­ "¬$10"­ "¬million to build a nuclear bomb"­; "¬it's much cheaper to use bacterial agents,"­ "¬and much easier to sneak them around."­ "¬That's where you need to keep your eyes focused."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Especially with Pluto in Sagittarius,"­ "¬which represents contagion."­ "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Contagion is an Aquarius phenomenon."­ "¬Behavioral contagion."­ "¬Or,"­ "¬the contagion of disease."­ "¬That's an Aquarius phenomenon."­ "¬An example is the"­ "¬1920s when Hitler came to power."­ "¬We had Uranus transiting Pisces,"­ "¬so he created a behavioral contagion by creating and persecuting a group of people"­ ("¬Uranus"­); "¬and you saw the contagion of behavior."­ "¬We have a Leo polarity point."­ "¬What do we see as potential antidotes by way of the Bearer of Light"­? "¬How would the Leo serve as a counteracting point"­? "¬It just starts with individuals stepping outside of themselves in order to objectify."­ "¬In other words,"­ "¬you can't change this pattern until you eliminate the emotional content that creates the pattern."­ "¬You have to eliminate that emotional content through objectification,"­ "¬through detachment,"­ "¬which presumes a desire to do so."­ "¬It is in that way that people regain control of their psyches,"­ "¬their souls,"­ "¬through Leo."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬So with the polarity point of the Leo archetype,"­ "¬you would get in touch with the emotions and,"­ "¬so to speak,"­ "¬with one's charismatic hero"­? "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬It depends on what archetype you orient to."­ "¬If you link to the group problem,"­ "¬typically,"­ "¬Lucifer in Aquarius is going to manifest in this group or this group,"­ "¬as we're right and they're wrong,"­ "¬which turns this group upon that group."­ "¬The whole polarity point of Leo means what"­? "¬To honor the individual realities of all groups."­ "¬There's no one more right or wrong."­ "¬That's the amazing thing in your election here."­ "¬Don't you find it rather startling that Bush carried no city"­? "¬He did not win one major U.S."­ "¬city,"­ "¬not one."­ "¬What he did win was the people living in the farmlands."­ "¬In other words,"­ "¬the majority of all people in all big cities voted for Gore."­ "¬The majority of people living in the farmlands,"­ "¬as in the Kansas types,"­ "¬voted for Bush."­ "¬What does that tell you about a massive line of polarization in your country as a total population"­? "¬We're talking Aquarius stuff here."­ "¬And here we have Uranus and Neptune transiting Aquarius."­ "¬Remember,"­ "¬you also have to deal with the natural squares and oppositions--Scorpio,"­ "¬Taurus,"­ "¬Leo."­ "¬You can see these lines of polarization before our eyes."­ "¬You see it"­? "¬

Think about that more deeply in terms of what value associations that equate to."­ "¬People who live in the Kansas-type of environments have a very limited view of reality,"­ "¬let's face it."­ "¬They want that reality to be everybody's reality."­ "¬People who live in the city,"­ "¬by definition,"­ "¬are much more cosmopolitan."­ "¬When you live in the city,"­ "¬you're exposed to diversity."­ "¬Living in the city requires you to think more."­ "¬You're exposed to newspapers."­ "¬You're exposed to this clown in the street barfing."­ "¬You've got this over here,"­ "¬and that over there,"­ "¬etc."­ "¬You tend to generate a much more expansive consciousness that honors diversity."­ "¬It is more aware of social issues,"­ "¬what the whole needs."­ "¬That's very different than living off in your little isolated farm somewhere in Montana,"­ "¬in which your reality is determined by the limitation of your own environment."­ "¬Do you see what I'm getting at"­? "¬Now we have this basic division in our country,"­ "¬and it was brought to a head in this election."­ "¬So,"­ "¬it's not a good sign for the future,"­ "¬friends."­ "¬

Lucifer in Pisces."­ "¬The worst form of this symbolism the influence of evil could manifest through in Pisces is having the person create one delusion or illusion after the other,"­ "¬and every delusion or illusion that is created is considered the ultimate meaning that the person has always been seeking."­ "¬It's like chasing windmills."­ "¬The intent of evil is to keep the person away from Spirit or God by creating the illusion that the meaning that they're seeking is in this new manifestation of this or this or this."­ "¬Another way that it typically manifests,"­ "¬especially in women,"­ "¬is sometimes when the Lucifer's in Pisces in a woman's chart,"­ "¬she may weekly,"­ "¬or sometimes daily,"­ "¬alter how she looks."­ "¬One day she looks conservative like a Capricorn businesswoman."­ "¬Two days later you see her with flaming hair and you say,"­ ""¬My God,"­ "¬what happened"­?" "¬Other forms that Lucifer in Pisces can manifest through are extreme paranoia,"­ "¬extreme schizophrenia,"­ "¬agoraphobia,"­ "¬any manner of psychological disintegration."­ "¬You can have the symbol of a true possession with Lucifer in Pisces"­; "¬your soul's literally taken over."­ "¬You can have the manifestation of Lucifer,"­ "¬of evil,"­ "¬through fanaticism."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Couldn't it also manifest through an intensification of a victim consciousness"­? "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Yes."­ "¬For example,"­ "¬on the TV talk shows like Oprah Winfrey,"­ "¬when you listen to these people's problems,"­ "¬they're always presenting themselves as a victim."­ "¬Always."­ "¬Do you ever hear her ask the people on her show,"­ ""¬Why did you need to create that"­?" "¬So,"­ "¬the antidote through Virgo is what"­? "¬If you're dealing with the nature of illusions and delusions,"­ "¬believe it or not,"­ "¬God will operate in that person's life through the manifestation of disillusionment."­ "¬An illusion created,"­ "¬the bubble is burst,"­ "¬and the person goes from one existential crisis to the next."­ "¬Again,"­ "¬the intent of disillusionment is to realign us with actual reality."­ "¬God's grace in that context is bursting the bubbles."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬To put it another way,"­ "¬could you say mental discernment through Virgo"­? "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Yes."­ "¬Obviously,"­ "¬with the Pisces symbol in mind,"­ "¬evil can truly manifest through the temptation of drugs and alcohol."­ "¬As we're going through these things,"­ "¬all of you have Lucifer somewhere in your chart."­ ("¬Positive response from a few audience members"­)"¬."­ "¬Right on."­ "¬At least you're honest."­ "¬The antidote is discrimination."­ "¬It is God operating in such a way as to create disillusionment"­; "¬what we can call--this nice shamanistic word--learning how to be"­ `"¬impeccable."­Â´ "¬Impeccable means absolute self-honesty."­ "¬Impeccability here means being that which you actually are"­; "¬you're not misrepresenting yourself."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Which is quite different from perfection."­ "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Yes."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬So,"­ "¬it requires total honesty and responsibility for who you are and what you create."­ "¬

(J"­)"¬:"­ "¬Exactly."­ "¬And,"­ "¬it requires being faithful to who you are,"­ "¬without compromise."­ "¬That's a nice word,"­ "¬isn't it,"­ "¬impeccability"­? "¬I like that."­ "¬

Aries."­ "¬How could evil manifest through Aries"­? "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Very easily through martial,"­ "¬war-like fighting,"­ "¬a kind of belligerence."­ "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Belligerence itself is not evil."­ "¬It's not a nice thing,"­ "¬but it's not evil."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Picking fights on weaker people"­? "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Do you mean the bully syndrome"­? "¬Yes."­ "¬Absolutely."­ "¬It could,"­ "¬for example,"­ "¬create a false sense of self-importance."­ "¬We can certainly see this implicated through Mr."­ "¬Bush,"­ "¬with a first house Pluto and Lucifer transiting his first house."­ "¬He clearly thinks of himself as more important than he actually is."­ "¬That's why one thing the media does do once in a while is say,"­ ""¬Hey,"­ "¬look how arrogant this creep is."­" "¬Look at the little snicker on his face,"­ "¬the superior arrogance."­ "¬I'm going to leave Bush alone right now."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Can you share any of where he's been prior to this life to create this person"­? "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬No."­ "¬Right now,"­ "¬I'm not allowed to tell you that."­ "¬There are certain boundaries I have to honor."­ "¬It's not a pretty picture,"­ "¬but I can give one little snapshot."­ "¬I'll just invent a story,"­ "¬and maybe you'll put it together."­ "¬Do you remember a time in our country when we had blacks as slaves in the south,"­ "¬and the white superior race running them,"­ "¬i.e.,"­ "¬plantation owners who would do whatever they want,"­ "¬especially to the black women"­? "¬I'll just leave it right there."­ "¬Maybe you get the point,"­ "¬without naming names."­ "¬

How else could it manifest through Aries"­? "¬Bully syndrome"­ "¬-"­ "¬yes."­ "¬Arrogance and power"­ "¬-"­ "¬yes."­ "¬Thinking one's more self-important"­ "¬-"­ "¬yes."­ "¬What else"­? "¬It could manifest,"­ "¬especially through men,"­ "¬as sexual predators,"­ "¬where sex is actually an act of power,"­ "¬by way of dominance."­ "¬It can manifest through emotional misrepresentation to an existing intimate other or a potential intimate other."­ "¬Misrepresentation."­ "¬Aries always wants what it wants when it wants it."­ "¬If this is sexualized through a man,"­ "¬you can see where that would lead."­ "¬I've seen in in women too,"­ "¬and I've actually had women who had this symbol tell me the following,"­ ""¬I'm going out on a sexual hunt."­" "¬A sexual hunt."­ "¬But,"­ "¬the excitement's always in the hunt,"­ "¬isn't it"­? "¬They promise something they can't follow through on."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬I still don't know how you got that with Aries."­ "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Because the higher octave of Aries is Scorpio--manipulation."­ "¬What's the antidote through the Libra polarity point"­? "¬The antidote is to realize that other people's needs and realities are as equally important as one's own."­ "¬It's changing from a consciousness of using people for one's own purposes,"­ "¬to a consciousness of giving to someone in accordance with what the person actually needs instead of the delusion:"­ ""¬I'm giving to you because here's what you need and I know it."­ "¬I think I know what you need."­" "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Could part of Lucifer in Aries bring people into your life who are like that"­? "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Yes."­ "¬In other cases,"­ "¬it can manifest as a loosening of the will to live."­ "¬It can correlate to someone who's virtually killing himself"­; "¬effecting violence on himself."­ "¬

On to Taurus."­ "¬One of the underlying influences of evil through Taurus is an undermining sort of activity that keeps the person involved with what is minimally necessary to do just to keep their life going."­ "¬Minimal involvement"­; "¬just enough to keep the life going."­ "¬It´s an ultimate form of laziness,"­ "¬procrastination,"­ "¬minimal effort,"­ "¬the sloth syndrome."­ "¬It can manifest as using other peoples"­' "¬resources to benefit oneself,"­ "¬and doing whatever necessary to gain those resources."­ "¬It can manifest in any manner of weird sexual perversion."­ "¬Taurus is the sexual instinct in all of us that is rooted in the instinct to procreate"­ ("¬Taurus"­)"¬."­ "¬Once you latch Lucifer onto that natural instinct,"­ "¬then you can see where sexuality could go."­ "¬One of the potential applications of this would be this thing called snuffing,"­ "¬where the persons killed."­ "¬We can see that through Lucifer in Taurus."­ "¬We can see that also through Lucifer in Scorpio,"­ "¬by the way."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬What is snuffing"­? "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬It's where they kill the person at the moment of climax."­ "¬I can't even begin to imagine how that would get somebody off."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Didn't you have a client in Germany like that"­? "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Yes."­ "¬I've had some doozies of clients."­ "¬I used to tell all my clients,"­ ""¬You can tell me anything you want and it stays here."­" "¬Many of my clients treat me as a confessor-priest type of person."­ "¬And,"­ "¬one of the worst cases I had to deal with in terms of controlling my own impulses,"­ "¬was when I had a client,"­ "¬a sadist,"­ "¬confess that he'd done certain things to a woman and it got out of control,"­ "¬so to speak."­ "¬He was willing to tell me in quite a bit of detail what he had done."­ "¬I just wanted to take the guy and strangle him."­ "¬The case was also being reported in the news."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬What did you do"­? "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬I tried to be as cool and professional as I could be,"­ "¬because I made the mistake."­ "¬I have to own that for myself."­ "¬I had a massive dilemma on my hands,"­ "¬but the fact is,"­ "¬I told him first,"­ ""¬You can tell me anything."­" "¬So,"­ "¬that's what I had to honor."­ "¬Since then,"­ "¬believe me,"­ "¬I've done it differently."­ "¬You can tell your clients that,"­ "¬but you can then also tell them,"­ ""¬If you tell me something that's against the law,"­ "¬my duty is to report you,"­" "¬which is in fact the law in certain places."­ "¬

The antidote of Taurus,"­ "¬of course,"­ "¬comes through Scorpio."­ "¬The whole issue of the antidote here is manifesting a desire to understand the nature of your psychology,"­ "¬how and why you're put together the way you are,"­ "¬and,"­ "¬most importantly,"­ "¬being willing to own it."­ "¬That's the key."­ "¬

Gemini."­ "¬One application that can happen is when one sibling forces another sibling to have sex."­ "¬It can manifest as trying to control and limit ideas."­ "¬Gemini is the archetype that's susceptible to the newest cultural fad,"­ "¬or the next grooviest thing to do."­ "¬The problem in Gemini is that they get so hooked up with the newest,"­ "¬grooviest thing to do,"­ "¬that if they orient to it through the influence of evil,"­ "¬they violate their own natural nature."­ "¬For example,"­ "¬in the late"­ '"¬60s when all the hippie stuff was happening,"­ "¬the free love syndrome and all that"­ ("¬Uranus in Libra--Free Love"­)"¬,"­ "¬if you were a Gemini in that scenario,"­ "¬the typical Gemini just hops on the bandwagon."­ ""¬Oh groovy--free love."­" "¬What if that was a violation of their own nature"­? "¬Through Gemini,"­ "¬Lucifer can manifest as that temptation to follow the next grooviest thing"­; "¬that´s going to be the meaning that you're seeking."­ "¬It can manifest through fickleness."­ "¬It can manifest by saying one thing to one person and an altogether different thing to the next person."­ "¬Different stories that aren't based in truth."­ "¬It can manifest,"­ "¬frankly,"­ "¬as outright lies."­ "¬The person can present the lie as the truth,"­ "¬and then try to convince others of that"­ ""¬truth,"­" "¬of that lie."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Could it manifest as extreme mischievousness"­? "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Yes."­ "¬The antidote is through Sagittarius."­ "¬The ultimate archetype of Sagittarius is honesty,"­ "¬at all costs."­ "¬You've all heard the American cliché,"­ ""¬The truth will set you free,"­" "¬whatever that truth may be."­ "¬That's the antidote to Gemini."­ "¬The antidote through Sagittarius is for the person to completely tune into who they naturally and actually are,"­ "¬and then to live that truth instead of the facade of Gemini."­ "¬

Next,"­ "¬we come to ever-secure Cancer."­ "¬This becomes very graphic through the case of Mr."­ "¬O.J."­ "¬Simpson."­ "¬Here's a man who has his Sun and Mercury in Cancer,"­ "¬and Jupiter in Scorpio."­ "¬This is a case of what's called pathological jealousy,"­ "¬which manifests through this bizarre male attitude,"­ ""¬If I can't have you,"­ "¬nobody will."­" "¬It's an extreme form of emotional possession,"­ "¬which can degenerate beyond normal jealousy into pathological jealousy."­ "¬When it becomes pathological,"­ "¬the person takes action upon it,"­ "¬just as O.J."­ "¬Simpson did."­ "¬One thing they never told you about O.J."­ "¬Simpson was that while he was out being with any woman he wanted to,"­ "¬he expected his wife to be monogamous."­ "¬

Wolf:"­ "¬this section in red."­ "¬I had trouble following the exact correlations,"­ "¬so I wasn't sure how to rewrite it."­ "¬

This is a black man."­ "¬If you look at it through the Capricorn polarity,"­ "¬Capricorn"­ "¬-"­ "¬because what determines the color of the skin is a physiology called melanin,"­ "¬which is a variation of melatonin,"­ "¬which manifests out of your pineal gland"­ "¬-"­ "¬and in Capricorn this manifests,"­ "¬because Capricorn connects to iron,"­ "¬and this is why you have black skin implicated through Capricorn."­ "¬Here you have a man with this Cancer energy,"­ "¬the polarity point of which is Capricorn,"­ "¬and his defense team used the black card,"­ "¬or race card,"­ "¬as a defense."­ "¬Do you see how it´s working now"­? "¬I think most of us would agree the guy probably did it,"­ "¬yes"­? "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Didn't he confess in one of the statements that he gave"­? "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Yes,"­ "¬he did."­ "¬He actually did confess at one point."­ "¬Does anybody feel that this guy was actually innocent"­? ("¬Nobody did"­)"¬."­ "¬The point here is that evil manifests through the emotional body with Lucifer in Cancer."­ "¬Anything that's linked with your emotional body can,"­ "¬in fact,"­ "¬be influenced with Lucifer in Cancer,"­ "¬and can set in motion any manner of emotional distortions,"­ "¬and the emotional behaviors that are a reflection of those distortions."­ "¬The problem with Lucifer in Cancer is that the individual does not have a clue that Lucifer is taking over a particular emotional state and is intensifying and distorting it."­ "¬They don't have a clue because the emotional state is natural to them in the first place."­ "¬So,"­ "¬they simply get lost to it."­ "¬The worst forms that appear are emotional,"­ "¬demonic people."­ "¬

(Q"­)"¬:"­ "¬Wouldn't this be the person that would manipulate his or her environment"­? "¬

(A"­)"¬:"­ "¬Yes."­ "¬Totally so."­ "¬There are so many factors."­ "¬It can correlate to a person being born to a mother who herself is being influenced by evil,"­ "¬and through her own emotional distortions affects this child through her behavior."­ "¬There are just so many ways to look at the darned thing."­ "¬

The antidote for Cancer is Capricorn--learning to emotionally mature."­ "¬They're not just perpetually little babies,"­ "¬they have to grow up."­ "¬They have to accept the responsibility for their own actions."­ "¬

What happens when we start dealing with the aspects Lucifer's making to other planets"­? "¬What happens when,"­ "¬for example,"­ "¬Lucifer's in Virgo,"­ "¬but it's in a Sagittarius house,"­ "¬and it's making aspects to X,"­ "¬X,"­ "¬and X"­? "¬These all become portals,"­ "¬or vehicles,"­ "¬in which this influence can exist."­ "¬Very quickly,"­ "¬through synastry,"­ "¬it means that wherever your partner's Lucifer is landing in your natal chart is where they bring that individual influence into your life in the area of your consciousness or reality that,"­ "¬through synastry,"­ "¬that Lucifer lands in."­ "¬Do you see it"­? "¬Conversely,"­ "¬that very same symbol can equal a partner,"­ "¬through the Bearer of Light archetype,"­ "¬who can truly bring the spark and awareness and inspiration of God into your life."­ "¬When you link this through composite charts,"­ "¬you're going to have a combined Lucifer with somebody"­; "¬it´s going to be in a house and a sign,"­ "¬and in a very similar way,"­ "¬this is where the couple,"­ "¬as a unit,"­ "¬can experience the influence of evil in a destructive,"­ "¬self-undermining way,"­ "¬or conversely,"­ "¬a direct channel in their own unique way to God."­ "¬Or,"­ "¬God could actually be helping the relationship."­ "¬I know this from my own reality."­ "¬I had a partner,"­ "¬and we had a combined Lucifer in our"­ "¬11th house in Virgo."­ "¬She was a person that had been highly traumatized prior to my meeting her"­; "¬I'd been highly traumatized in my own life,"­ "¬of course."­ "¬The"­ "¬11th house is trauma,"­ "¬and we have a combined Lucifer in the house of trauma."­ "¬There were many traumas we created together,"­ "¬but at every point that would almost lead to separation--I mean to packing--to the last heels out the door thing--always in the last minute,"­ "¬God would intervene."­ "¬Every single time."­ "¬At critical mass moments,"­ "¬the flip side,"­ "¬the Bearer of Light,"­ "¬would appear."­ "¬I know how it works."­ "¬Evil manifests as wanting to blame another,"­ "¬never itself."­ "¬It supports the consciousness of victimization and vindictiveness and getting back."­ "¬

OK."­ "¬So,"­ "¬did you guys get a little more understanding of this Lucifer thing and how to work with it"­? "¬All I would suggest that you do is just to do the traditional astrology thing."­ "¬Work with it for a while."­ "¬Observe it,"­ "¬correlate it,"­ "¬connect it to world events,"­ "¬connect it to your own life,"­ "¬connect it to friends that you know."­ "¬Watch its movement."­ "¬Then you will develop your own awareness and knowledge and information about this archetype."­ "¬It is something that we all need to keep our eyes on."­ "¬Again,"­ "¬99%"­ "¬of evil is unseen--unnoticed."­ "¬

I certainly appreciated you guys as a group,"­ "¬and have a good one.

[Rad]

Sunyata,

Go ahead and post the birth chart of the boy you have questions about, and need help with. Share all the relevant information that you need too.

God Bless, Rad

[Steve]

Hi Heather

This made me recognize the resentment and anger I have creeping around my subconscious towards God for betraying creation, for making us capable of murder and destruction of the planet, that its some kind of cosmic joke and we're the brunt of it. Wow, glad that got flushed to the surface for me to work through, since this is clearly not God's will. It just shows me how the influence of evil can use our weakness to separate our hearts from the truth.  

Well, I've had and have my own anger at time towards God about this being the kind of reality that it is.  But I keep seeing ever more deeply this simply is NOT the sort of reality we believe it is and could be, and it never was that.  All of those beliefs that everything should be good and wonderful all the time - they really are our projections onto God of our own unfulfilled yearnings.  And then we feel let down when it doesn't work out that way.  When it never was the type of reality we live in, in the first place.

It is what it is.  That's all that it is.  It's not what it isn't.  That is actually reality.  Jeffrey once said something that was so profound to me - "Have compassion for your Creator".  We want want want, we are disappointed, we are this, we are that.  God simply is what it is, not our projections of what we want God to be.  I can't say I understand the nature of God.  But as I get out of the way I experience it, as in astrology, through observation and correlation. To back into it.  To release my filters and conditionings.  To simply observe What Is.  I am entitled to have my opinions about what I observe, but they are, in reality, merely opinions.  Everything still is what it is, and is not what its not.

Over the last few years I've been seeing it at times as, the capacity to be Jesus, the capacity to be Hitler, is built into every one of us.  Its not even that one is better or more right than the other.  Its very experiential.  Acting more in a Jesus like way causes one to feel better, causes the quality of one's life to improve, at the least, inwardly.  Acting like Hitler might bring momentary weird pleasure, but it carries consequences that degrade one's Soul journey.  We live in a reality where, in the short term, the short cutters and self servers can appear for a time to get away with their actions.  One can feel like a fool a times for not joining the party, so to speak.  Yet we know inside its simply not the right thing for us to do.  That seems like its not true for everyone however.  Still, if its right for us, we must live by it, even when its not pleasant or easy to live by it.  Even if we are being rejected, scandalized, even boiled in oil.  These words are easy to say.  They are much harder to live when those moments occur.  And yet, that IS what its all about.  It IS the way through all of this.

God seems to have given us a tremendous amount of choice here, and really stays out of the way, visibly anyway, and lets us do as we are going to do.  That is a huge amount of freedom.  Every one of our choices, our actions, carries a consequence.  That is what EA calls Natural Law, doing what is right in any given moment.  You know it is right because of how it feels within, not because the Bible said so or the preacher said so or the President said so or your mother said so.  When we do what is right in the moment this brings a consequence into our lives.  When we don't do what is right in the moment this also brings a consequence into our lives.

This principle seems to not be understood nowadays by very many people.  The entire principle of victimization is based on denying that my choices have had anything at all to do with what is going on in my life, that life is just happening to me, and I am innocently sitting here and being clobbered by it.

The best part (to me) of realizing that we are responsible in some way for what is in our lives is we come to see what is in our lives is due to choices I have been making, for a long long time.  The liberation in that is when I realize the circumstances in my life are the natural consequences of how I have been living, this means I can decide to MAKE DIFFERENT CHOICES.  And then the outcome in my life, the natural consequences, will start to change, will be different.  

In other words, there is no hole we may have dug ourselves into that is so deep that we can't dig our way out of it if we really decide to do so.  The obstacles will be many at times.  It may be the hardest thing we have ever undertaken.  It may take more than we think we have.  But we DO have it. And in the process we will find places, resources within ourselves that we had no idea were even there.  That is one way, as Ellen put it, we go about finding out who we are.  We also have to find out who we are NOT, through a process of negation - not this, not that, hot the other - its a stripping away.  As these layers we thought we were get removed we can feel empty and alone and even like we are dying, because at this point that is all we know about who we are.  And that is the experience of the underworld, the darkness.  Yet I have seen for myself that such times are TEMPORARY - no matter how difficult they are at times, THEY ALWAYS END, and the Sun, which I had forgotten about, comes out again, one more time.

This just seems to be the way it is.  From the human level, as Al Gore so wonderfully phrased it, it's a very inconvenient truth.  None the less, from personal experience, it IS the truth.  So we are better learning what truly IS and aligning our personal realities with it.  That will create a much better inner reality for us than cursing out the way things actually are vs how they supposedly should be.  Its all we can do.  I keep seeing for myself, what I said to Ellen, to keep on going with total determination, no matter what is going on around me, until my very last breath.  No one can make me stop but myself.  Lucifer can't do it.  Evil can make it more difficult, but in the end that is irrelevant.  We still have to do it.  We already know we are going to do it, some day in some life, sooner or later.  So if we are going to do it someday, why not do it sooner?  What else are we doing that's so wonderful that is so much more important?  It's just an inner shift, little by little.  Don't have to stop living as we are, just have to shift something inside about HOW we are living as we are.  If how we are living is not aligned with that inner shift, sooner or later those outer circumstances will shrivel away and dry up and fall to the ground, as they no longer serve us.  We have outgrown them.  They can no longer contain us.

This is what EA is about.  This is what this message board is about.  This is what Rad's posts about Lucifer are about - to help us see that this is the way that it is, that there are reasons why we are stuck in places where we are, and that we can change them, yes, we can, and yes we have what it takes.  And this board is to support the efforts of all who feel that urgency within their Souls to begin to reclaim their true selves.  It is not an easy journey.  Few will understand what someone on that journey is doing.  That among other reasons is why we have this message board.
Steve