Planetary Nodes

[Upasika]

"And these desires that originated from our unconscious (Soul) are registered as urges to act (Mars) which mobilises all the other energies in our life (planets in the chart other than Pluto/Moon/Sun) ..."

Both the Moon and the Sun registers the urges, evolutionary intentions, from the Soul, Pluto, via Mars it's lower octave ...

Thank you so much Rad ! To have arrived at how all the main components work together is very enabling for me, wouldn't have been able to have done it without your continued teaching and support, I'm very grateful.

I'll update my previous post to reflect the correction.

blessings Upasika

[Bradley J]

checking in,
most likely, i'll be back posting here in about 5 days.

be well,
bradley

[mountainheather]

Hi,
Rad, I have a question with regards to this:

Thus, the N.Nodes of the planets serve as the vehicles for the evolutionary future to manifest which is integrated in each moment by natal position of those planets.

My logical mind wants to see the natal position as the vehicle, how is the future point (NN) the vehicle in the present. Do present desires of getting to the NN clear the way to the future, or does the future actually inform the present?


Here's an attempt at south node Venus in Sagittarius, natal Venus in Capricorn and north node Venus in Scorpio:

In the past this soul's inner relationship was based on natural ways of being.  This soul would hear her own voice as a natural part of the diversity of all life on the planet, and would be part of a group of others that lived in this way.  Her way of experiencing all life would be governed by beliefs about what is seen in nature, and whatever her community understood about how to live with whatever naturally lived around them. For example if she lived with a northern tribe that survived by migrating with the growth of vegetation and following the caribou she and her tribe would have an intimate way of relating and listening to plants, caribou, wolves and weather patterns.
With that past coming into the current Venus in Capricorn this soul would be adapting her way of listening to accommodate a structure that would require her to control her way of being to accommodate social order. She would be in a life that would require her to conform her values to the authority of tradition, regardless of whether she authentically shared those values. She would be internally pressured to still hear her natural ways  but adapt them, or evolve them to fit the structure of society.  I am thinking of someone like Beatrix Potter, who clearly felt an affinity with nature, and although she was widely criticised by Victorian culture for being a woman author and unmarried, she managed to be a successful artist  and author by   "listening" to the animals and beauty of nature around her and sharing that in her books.
In Capricorn, the soul would be doing the groundwork of deconditioning the beliefs around  hearing what is natural in ONLY the context it is familiar with, and learning to surrender those beliefs that the so that the soul can adapt and hear natural truth anywhere.   So as the soul moves from the northern tribe wilderness (sag) to pastoral Victorian English society (cap)in my example, she is learning to find value and beauty in her own inner realm, that she can then find and share in her relationships.
The Venus in scorpio north node is the future for her learning to surrender her conditioning completely to a higher power. She will be challenged in her trust of the inner resources available to her. She will understand surrender and adaptation from the decondition/conditioning of capricorn but in scorpio it will be to a higher power that she will learn to trust .  Of course her CHOICE of what to value within, and in others will be highlighted, so she could make the choice for many other sources of power here and have many problems related to fearing or misunderstanding what she needs to allow to die in her so that her God'dess-committed self can emerge.  She will begin to understand the depth and intensity of committment that is required to let go and merge with what  is naturally true, and have that be her power.

Ok so I will end here...
The nodes have just lighted up the dynamic nature of consciousness for me. wow.

Thank you, Heather

[Rad]

Hi Heather,

"Thus, the N.Nodes of the planets serve as the vehicles for the evolutionary future to manifest which is integrated in each moment by natal position of those planets."

My logical mind wants to see the natal position as the vehicle, how is the future point (NN) the vehicle in the present. Do present desires of getting to the NN clear the way to the future, or does the future actually inform the present?

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The N.Node is the future that informs the moment just as is the S.Node also informing that moment. Thus, the natal planet is the constant that allows for an integration for the past and the future in each moment. The combination of the past and the future in the moment then allows for an evolution to take place that in integrated by the natal planet throughout one's life. Remember that the signs and houses contain within themselves a spectrum of archetypal correlations. And it is that totality within any sign or house, the spectrum of possibilities, that is then evolved because of the evolutionary pull of the future as that future meets the past in each moment.

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A wonderful effort at analyzing this paradigm Heather. What you have written is completely within the realm of archetypal possibilities in this paradigm.

God Bless, Rad

[mountainheather]

Thanks Rad !
Heather

[Linda]

South Node of Venus in Sagittarius
Natal Venus in Capricorn
North Node of Venus in Scorpio

Natal Venus in Capricorn is a life-long symbol that serves the underlying evolutionary desires and intentions that emanate from the Soul.  It acts as the integration point where the interface between the past (SN of Venus in Sagittarius) and the future (NN of Venus in Scorpio) is experienced in each moment of the current life.  

The past, as symbolized by the South Node of Venus in Sagittarius, gives us an idea of the conditioning that created the reality of Venus in Capricorn in the current life.  Therefore, we need to understand historical cycles such as the matriarchy in which all people lived in harmony with natural laws, and the patriarchy when those natural laws became suppressed and distorted.

The Soul would also have transitioned through the patriarchy, when the suppression and distortion of natural law lead to the creation of man-made beliefs, and the subjugation of women and nature.  The suppression of what was natural on a subconscious level turned to domination, competition and self-interest.

In the transition to the present time, the Soul with Venus in Capricorn correlates to learning how to apply natural laws in the context of the present times.

Examine the archetypal dimensions of the South Node of Venus in Sagittarius

An examination of the archetypal dimensions of the South Node of Venus in Sagittarius reveals the past conditioning of the Soul when it lived on a communal basis within tribes, cultures or societies that were in harmony with natural laws.  All life-forms within Nature were understood to be co-equal and interdependent, and considered to be God.  Nature itself, which included plants and animals, was the teacher.

The Soul's conditioning in the area of relationships between matriarchal men and women was patterned according to the natural world.  Sexuality was experienced as sacred and in complete harmony with natural laws.  Evolutionarily, through natural law, it was crucial that women were available to many men so that the species could create enough diversity to survive.  Therefore there was no marriage or monogamy.  The matriarchal way of life correlated to the archetype of Sagittarius in that the Soul's consciousness was aware of being connected, beyond the Earth, to a much larger universe.

Examine how the prior life dynamics condition the current life placement of Venus in Capricorn

Prior life dynamics, which basically meant living in harmony with natural laws, condition the current life Venus in Capricorn by bringing awareness of issues related to relationships, marriage, monogamy, sexuality, diversity, different cultures, different classes, societal role, women's rights, women in positions of self-authority and power, the environment, and learning how to apply natural laws in the context of the present life.

Examine the past inner relationship to the self, and the types of external relationships created because of that

The past inner relationship to the self was defined by an unrestricted search for meaning and purpose which determined the Soul's philosophy of life.  The Soul's personal truths, connected to the greater Universe, form the core value and meaning for her life.  She is firmly right-brain in orientation, intuitive and optimistic.

Resonating inwardly to the need for philosophical meaning allows the Soul to discriminate who she will be involved with intimately and generally.  She has a deep need to defend her beliefs since they bring meaning to her life.  Any external challenges to those beliefs bring a loss of meaning and purpose.  She would choose relationships where there was intellectual and philosophical stimulation, and a mutual commitment to personal growth.  

How does the SN of Venus in Sagittarius link to and shape the current life position of Venus in Capricorn?

The inner search for meaning was thwarted or restricted from an early age.  The Soul was expected to conform to the parents' value system.  The psychological and emotional reality of the current life Venus in Capricorn is based on unmet needs in childhood resulting in displaced emotions and a fear of vulnerability.  She cannot relate her own personal truths to the parents' value system, therefore feels alienated from them.  

Furthermore, she cannot relate to society since the nature of authority has become distorted.  Her intuitive, right brain orientation does not sit well with the parents, so their judgment and rejection results in feelings of guilt.  Her "natural" search for truth becomes "suppressed" until she can break free later in life.  

Relationships in her life are characterized by the search for partners or friends who will not challenge her beliefs which give her life meaning.  She could attract people who are quite ambitious and controlling, or very emotionally needy types who subconsciously feel safe in being dominated and controlled.  She could project her own authority onto others by way of rigid intellectual and philosophical structures, to feel secure.

Since she has a natural urge for personal growth, she eventually finds a special kind of person to unlock her feelings.  In examining her early patterns, she would wish to be free of them.

How is that Venus in Capricorn going to manifest in this life relative to the Soul defining its inner relationship to itself via the Capricorn archetype?

The Soul's inner relationship to herself could be shaped by the psychology of futility, pessimism or self-defeat.  She learned to protect her feelings because her needs were not supported or nurtured by her parents.  Emotional control is a survival instinct.  The emotional reality is of deep insecurity, timidity, shyness, fearfulness, displacement, suppression and distortion.  

The SN of Venus in Sagittarius would influence personal growth in terms of intellectual and philosophical expansion.  Her perpetual search for truth and meaning in conjunction with the Ultimate Truth would lead to slowly opening up to inner freedom, expression of playfulness and enthusiasm, and the exploration of the diversity of life.  

Her personal truth, relative to liberating from societal and parental conditioning patterns to conform, will be actualized by self-determination.  The false persona will be removed, so that the actual truth will be revealed.

How is the current life inner relationship, symbolized by Venus in Capricorn, being evolved through NN of Venus in Scorpio?

The Soul is facing her own personal limitations in order to evolve beyond them.  She desires to merge with higher universal sources of power to bring about personal growth and evolution.  From a psychological point of view, she is able to penetrate into herself through a very reflective and deep consciousness, to understand the nature of societal and parental imprinting.  She is able to make a commitment to evolve out of the past patterns of behaviour or conditioning.  The process of cyclic death, rebirth and regeneration are embraced as a natural part of life, a natural truth, which gives her life meaning and purpose.

What type of external relationships would the combination of all of these evolutionary forces create?

She would be free to make choices as to her external relationships.  She could seek many very deep and intense relationships where she finds fulfillment for her earthy sexuality and need for touch.  Since she is aware of her limitations, she would have a strong desire to merge, sexually or otherwise, with others who hold a higher source of power in terms of social position or knowledge.  She could become a well-known teacher of metaphysics or philosophy, or perhaps a psychologist or counselor committed to helping others to grow past their limitations.  She could also act as an advocate for wildlife for example, tuning in and listening to the guidance of Mother Earth, and applying natural laws in the context of the present times.  

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[Rad]

Hi Linda,

Excellent effort and all of what you wrote is within the realm of archetypal possibilities in this paradigm.

God Bless, Rad

[Linda]

Thanking you Rad!

[Wendy]

Hi Rad,

I am reposting my response from a couple of weeks ago.  I don't think you saw it.  It's my attempt to describe Venus in Capricorn

Hi Rad and All,

Here is my basic synopsis of the Venus in Capricorn person:

Past inner relationship-

The person had the freedom to live by natural law, if lived during matriarchal times, or believed strongly in religious mandated law.  The person would have been a seeker, intuitive, expansive in thought, philosophical in nature, and either physically large, grand, or energetically so.  And would have a desire to understand their known connection to the universe and explain it.  They could have knowledge of the cosmos, metaphysics...

External relationships-

In their outer relationships they would either be impressing upon others their belief systems, probably charismatic too.  Possibly adventure to foreign countries to proselytize or they would mainly relate within communities or societies that adhered to those beliefs.

I'm sure I can come up with more, but that's what I have for now.

Thanks Rad.  I really appreciate this opportunity.

Kindly,

Wendy  

[Rad]

Hi Wendy,

I did respond to your post .. on page 5. Here is it anyway ............. God Bless, Rad


Hi Wendy,

Wanted to acknowledge your first effort because the value is in the effort. One thing I would suggest to deepen your understanding, relative to the paradigm we are working with, is to read the section in JWG's Pluto Two book about Venus through the signs.

God Bless, Rad

[Wendy]

Thanks Rad, I missed it.  

My original response was attempting to define the SN of Venus in Capricorn rather than just Venus in Capricorn.  Did I miss the mark? thus the suggestion to read about Venus?  Or do I just need to go deeper?

God Bless,
Wendy

[Bradley J]

Rad,
Here is my first effort.  I read your note about reading the venus chapters in Pluto II which I have yet to do.  After your initial feedback, I intend to flesh this out some more with reading and synthesizing those chapters. 
Thank you kindly for any and all feedback.
Bradley

Bottom-line Statement:  Inwardly, s/he values self determination, ambition, and actualizing ones goals.  These are all shaped by the beliefs/knowing/inner truth that the soul comes into the life with.  These beliefs/knowing/inner truth, at a core level, allow the self to give definition and function to society's philosophy/cosmology/religion.  The inner relationship to the self, and inner truth is conditioned  in this life by parental and societal teachings of right and wrong.  There is an evolutionary need to confront the inherent limitations of self imposed judgements and definitions which resulted from conditioning in this life of the soul's life orientation/beliefs/knowing that was carried forth from previous evolutionary stages.

The south node of Venus in Sagittarius correlates to the previous lifetimes of relating to oneself in a philosophical,metaphysical, natural, religious, cosmological, intuitive way.  The actual nature of this is determined by the soul's evolutionary stage.  For example, in the consensus stage, the soul would have, in previous lifetimes valued and been attracted to things and people which explained the larger meaning and context for the mundane.  Inwardly, at this evolutionary stage, the soul is valuing something that gives meaning to the cycles of life and ways of the world.  At this consensus stage, the teachings which would be the foundation for how s/he related to his/her self would be the consensus religious or "˜way of life', depending on the era, culture, etc.
At the individuated stage, the sn sag of venus is seen in the individual's own search for meaning to life outside of the consensus world views and religious of the linked past lifetimes.  They come in valuing principles and laws that explain how life works.  Relative to the soul's perspective and era on earth, this could mean an atheist for example.  In our current world, this type of core belief is common, especially in the heart of individuated and the apparent "˜lack of God' in the world. 
And, of course, for the soul in the spiritual evolutionary state, they come into life having previously established a deep and broad knowing of self in relation to the divine.
All of these dynamics, of course, most also be applied to actual houses to gain further insight, aspects to, etc.

Venus in Capricorn is naturally reserved, controlled, and cautious about it's feeling - and by extension, the ways it relates and shares with others.  Venus in Cap also symbolizes conditioning of the "˜ways to be' in relationships.  Most likely, s/he has encountered in this life judgements about what is right and wrong, both from parental figures as well as socially.  This leads into a potential to suppress natural feelings and to judge oneself for what one naturally feels and is attracted to.  Relative to the sn sag of Venus, it is likely that ones natural truth will be either suppressed or a key motivating factor to self discipline.  Again, it depends on the nature of the soul.  A bottom line statement would be that their own inner truth, which they were naturally born with, will be put into definition and given a socially functional meaning in this lifetime.  Definitions, by their nature, are limiting.  The past conceptual understanding of life, whatever it was/is, had evolved for a specific evolutionary purpose.  Now, s/he relates to putting the meaning of life into a definition.  This definition, whatever it evolves to be, will become a limiting factor relative to her/his relationship with her/his self, and by extension, all relationships.  Regardless of the evolutionary stage, there is a need to evolve and continue to grow at a core level.  The evolutionary purpose is to metamorphosis the core inner truths that have solidified into a limiting definition of "˜how life works'.  There was nothing "˜wrong' with the truth that s/he had inwardly self realized.  What the symbols are saying is that the implied limits, internalized from external conditioning, have shaped his/her inner truth into a certain definition which will, by it's nature, limit and restrict growth inwardly, and therefore, also in his/her relationships.  Hence, the nn scorpio implies the evolutionary need for confrontation in this life.  Also, this can be a symbol for the evolutionary necessity of betrayal and abandonment.  Why?  Because these types of events will force this soul to go outside it's limited perspective and inner orientation. 
I do not mean to say the venus in cap relative to it's sn sag alone implies that this person was born with an inner restricted world view.  This part is relative to the evolutionary stage and could manifest in a multitude of ways.  Again, the key implied by the nn venus in scorpio, relative to venus cap/sn sag is that how they are relating to themselves is conditioned by their pre-existing inner truths and the conditioning of their current life's parents/society.  The implied limiting factor could be a repressed part of their natural intuition.  In this example, a confrontation or betrayal could catalyze the inner questioning that will allow the repressed parts of them self to resurface.

An example of  key external relationships in past lives is student teacher type.  Again, if we are talking about consensus stage, this could simply mean an uncle who put things into perspective for them.  Through these types of relationships, s/he would have then internalized the value of placing the happenings of life into context with the larger context of life.  If we follow this example into the current life, in the current era, we would expect the conditioning of consensus morals to heavily impact his/her own self judgements.  Coming from a sn sag, these morals would be given inner meaning as s/he naturally ties them to the consensus religion of the culture of birth.  It would be easy to see this even manifesting as "˜morally ethic' business person who holds a religions teaching of what is right and wrong at the core of business relationships.  Again, even in this example, it is easy to see that there is a limiting factor to the inner orientation.  S/he would stagnate, that is stay with the same beliefs and values, limit and control the relationships they keep based on those of similar value.  This example shows again, that self growth is limited by the nature of the life they are living.  The relationships they form would be one's which support their current orientation.  So, the nn scorpio symbolizes again, the need for an external confrontation to push them to evolve beyond the crystallized self definition.  Clearly, in our times, it is easy to see how this consensus stage example would have repressed natural feelings, therefore a distorted inner relationship with oneself.  The nn is the symbolic force that is bringing in external relationships that would push this soul to question their deepest beliefs and sense of right and wrong.  With the scorpio nn, one example of an external relationship that would trigger cataclysmic evolution would be a powerful attraction to someone outside their primary relationship.  This situation would force a inner crisis.  Now, the natural feelings could be totally repressed and the soul may have to live lifetimes before they reach a place of non judgement regarding the natural feelings that they have.  The symbolism and evolutionary intention in there, regardless of the state the soul is in and how long it takes to grow and evolve beyond the current definition of self.

One more example: this is a soul at spiritual evolutionary stage.  Regarding external relationships, s/he would naturally attract others who have a cosmological orientation, yet are also more reserved with sharing feelings.   This could appear to others as someone who has "˜dry' and boring relationships, seeing as their is no point for this soul to gossip and openly share feelings about so and so and this and that.  This soul would naturally gravitate to relationships with more mature and advanced spiritual teacher types.  The nn scorpio can symbolize here the evolutionary need for a committed partner, whom through sustained intense shared love making would be inwardly confronting the feeling parts of their self that had become suppressed, repressed, and dormant below the surface.  In this example, the external relationship of a committed sexual union would bring much more self growth than the comfortable hanging out with the mature spiritual teacher.

[Rad]

Hi Bradley,

Excellent work and analysis of the interaction of the Nodes and Venus that also demonstrated the possible manifestations relative to the evolutionary stages of development. Bravo.

God Bless, Rad

[Rad]

Hi All,

Ok, seems like it is time to practice another planetary node pardigm. In this new paradigm natal Venus will be in Taurus, it's S.Node will be in Leo, and the N.Node will be in Cancer. Let's have a go at it.

God Bless, Rad

[Bradley J]

Rad,
I just finished this amendment to the first part of the assignment, and now see you've initiated the next assignment.
I felt it worthwhile to still share the rest of this...


Part II: Planetary Nodes Assignment Venus: Sag -->  Cap --> Scorpio

Here are some additional dynamics after reading the corresponding Venus sections in Pluto II

Sn Sag Venus comes from a place of inner freedom which is in potential conflict to natal Cap Venus - that is to say the conditioning factors which limit, inhibit, and judge the inner spirit of freedom and growth.  The nn Scorpio implies the needed confronting of the limitations of the conditioning and taught definition of reality. 

Both the Capricorn and Scorpio archetypes share an inward movement.  This suggests when this soul is "˜stuck' s/he needs to actually increase the inner compression upon oneself - by actually going deep enough (scorpio) into the past (cap) one can unlock the inherent inner truth of who they are(sag).

The symbols of Capricorn and Scorpio also implies that s/he is learning to relate to oneself in an emotional way.  There is a need for intimacy which can slowly dissolve the cold and frozen guarded emotional nature.  Once there is trust and deep intimacy with a partner, s/he will reveal how s/he is actually quite carefree and humorous inside. 
They can also begin to express their true natural feelings and the limitations of the conditioned gender roles they have been taught to play out. (this varies greatly based on evolutionary stage and actual parental/cultural/societal reality)

The symbolism of Venus coming from Sag, in Cap, and moving toward Scorpio raises the question: Does the parental and Social reality allow for the freedom of inner growth?  a connection to one's own inner truth and sense of link to larger truths?   Here is an example to illustrate this point-

Christianity has existed in many many forms - how does one tell, as soul is conditioned by this religion, that there current conditioning would provide the framework for growth within their current definition of reality?
To answer this, first of all the natal Capricorn Venus does imply the conditioning in this life is going to be "˜rules to live by' which block their inherent expansive nature.  However, we also need to consider the type of Christianity as well as the evolutionary stage and the overall nature of the soul.  For example, the bible would be taught to define the rights and wrongs and would be exemplified by the religious upbringing.  The bible itself, as the end all book of God, would be potentially seen as limiting or inhibiting deeper growth.  Such a soul may naturally seek out further teachings and discover lost books of the bible which contain key pieces to incomplete aspects of biblical teachings. (sn sag)  In this example, the soul went deeper into Christianity and found a way to grow and expand upon the inner truths which s/he had intuited were missing from the version presented by parents and society.  They would then have to confront the aspect of their self which was conditioned to judge this "˜questioning the word of God' - (nn scorpio) meaning, due to the conditioning, all along a voice inside their self is judging them self as wrong and feeling a resulting sense of guilt at first by stepping outside the taught moral "˜right and wrong'.  Once having followed thru with this leap of faith and thereby changing the structure of their consciousness, they would then also have to face eternal confrontations in the relationships of parents, family members, members of there church, etc.  Yet, based on these symbols, we as astrologers would know it was simply in their very nature of their inner relationship with how they define life to allow for room for searching, growing, and expanding upon one's inner beliefs. 

Now, if the nature of this soul is overall Saturnian/Consensus, then the outer relationships will be made with others in the consensus who inwardly also approach consensus religion in the same way - such that they too inwardly resonate with inner truth and freedom of self.  Thus, a common ground would be the aspects of reality that define living a life of expansive carefree living.  Sadly for me to say, this could simply, in this example, mean the embracing of the "˜american dream' which is actualized thru the reality of capitalism...at least this would potentially be the consensus belief.

Sag is humor, Cap is quite known for dry humor - inwardly seeing the light at the end of the shackles.

Sag alone seeks solutions instead of problems, while Capricorn Venus can be getting potentially quite pessimistic regarding the outcome.  This comes out as a type who shares a dismal optimism or even strong outward judgements and negativity while inwardly seeking answers - quite confusing to be around if you didn't know this person.
On the flip side, Cap is also potentially highly motivated, so we could also have someone who is quite ambitious at making it work, facing obstacles with optimism and perseverance.
Sag can be quite blunt, Cap can be so coldly "˜as a matter of fact"˜ - the result is the potential to hurt another's feelings - and then the scorpio confrontation.
This can be coming from Sag's generalization of truth - that is applying their inner personal truth to everything - thru Capricorn where these beliefs materialize into judgements of right and wrong.  Through the polarity of each of these signs, we see the evolution of this pattern - such that once they discover the fact that each person's own truth is right for them(gemini) and that what they are really seeking is the security in a relationship in which they can share all their stuffed away feelings, unorganized and chaotic as they naturally are(cancer), they dissolve this tendency to coldly judge others from a place of inner inadequacy.

If the sn Venus Sag symbolizes a self compensation for inadequacy, the evolutionary purpose of Venus Cap is to clearly define and spell out their individual beliefs.  Of course, they also need to overcome the distortions of what truth is because of being conditioned(raised) by others who hold different inner truths.

This person, sexually, is going to run into inner and thus outer(relationship/partner) conflicts.  Sn Sag is quite carefree and does not care about the socially assigned gender roles.  This past relationship to them self also wants spontaneity and adventure in general, and also sexually.  Now we have the Venus in Capricorn currently, who may easily fall into routines and roles, yet inwardly be driven crazy because of the boringness of their relationship and sexual life.  They are going to need a partner who understands how to "˜warm them up', and melt the controlled projected persona which all to often remains in control.  Once past this, there is a safe place for the spontaneity they feel to be played out, there is the emotional security to loose control(slowly) - thereby access all the locked up emotions they have held in for so long.  This is the piece about Capricorn actually wanting chaos - for the world of the inner emotional reality is the polar opposite of the controlled orderly outer constructed "˜role"˜ and they have been taught to be.  It would be like taking off a mask for them.  Finally, they can breath and naturally be who they are - their authentic self without the fear of rejection and judgement. 

The Venus in Capricorn person, having yet to grow beyond the damaging influence of parental conditioning, will typically have one of two basic orientations to self and therefore others:
First, a response to dominant, authoritative parents is to shy away, suppress natural expression, and be generally inward and quiet.  This type will typically seek out a partner who is outwardly successful, yet just as inwardly frozen and unavailable.  They have basically attracted their parent type.   
The Second would be the authoritarian type, one who takes every opportunity to outwardly express their own sense of control and authority on their relationships.  This type attracts someone who is emotionally needy and "˜needs a parent-like partner' to "˜keep them in line.' 
This second type, relative to the sn venus sag, would be acting out on their own sense of authority due to an inner lack with in - back to the inadequacy from the past being carried forward - and now amplifying their own sense of "I'm right and they are wrong"  So, in this type, we can see extremes of judgement - they have this larger vision and the rest of the "˜stupid people' fail to see the bigger picture.  This type of orientation will point to this soul not having evolved relative to the sn Venus Sag from their past.  The missed lesson in this case is that other's perspective is right for them, just as their own point of view is right for them self.  Guess they missed the point on that one!(joke)

Now, the Venus in Capricorn type also is known to carry an unresolved grief, to be in a state of perpetual mourning - relative to the sn sag - ha ha ha I'm sooo sad.   For real though, this south node of Venus in Sag will trace this unresolved grief back to their past life(a past life or lives) in which they experience a great deal of suffering and destruction around them because of religious upheavals and persecution and/or the tragic results of "˜natural disasters' including plagues, famine, and the likes. It is possible that they were in a survival state because of their beliefs and religion.  Or, vise versa, in which case they may carry a large amount of guilt because of their past involvement.  Again, the response could be "˜i now deserve to suffer' masochist or, when they need to control and dominate we see the angry sadist response.  Or both. 

The Venus in Capricorn sense of "˜going backward to go forward' coupled with the evolutionary path of Scorpio, again suggests deepening the intensity of inner soul/self searching to find the place where the original wounding occurred.  The inner child(cancer polarity point) was "˜robbed' of a full natural childhood and had the standards and judgements of an adult reality put on from an early age.  So, there is an evolutionary need to confront internally the memory of when this occurred and what their inherent natural self was prior to this.  Once done, they will metamorphosize into a true expression of who they are.  They will still of course play the "˜adult game of life' but they will also have unshackled their inner child which now realizes it need not face judgement for it's natural feelings and emotions.


Goddess Bless,
Bradley