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Started by Rad, Mar 24, 2009, 01:26 PM

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Rad

Hi Ari,

"QUESTION: Can you clarify this soul's tendency for monogamy or non monogamy... especially in light of a last quarter Venus Pluto square?"

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The issue of monogamy will be an ongoing struggle for her Soul. Given the nature of her evolutionary stage, coming out of the 2nd Stage individuated, relative to her S.Node in Libra in the 11th, it's ruler in Leo in the 9th squaring her Pluto in Scorpio in the 12th, she has desired a total freedom to explore, to discover, her own self in an unlimited way. She has not wanted to be 'bound' by anything, or anyone. She has thus giving herself the freedom to be with whomever she has wanted to be with whenever she wanted to be with them. And this is indeed part of the ongoing struggle in intimate relationships with her that come into this life because there would have been others who wanted her to be committed or monogamous to them.

This would of course have created confrontations and many wounded feelings by those who did attempt to limit her own need for freedom. Some would have even been traumatized by this. And this would have been confusing, the 12th House Pluto in Scorpio square the Venus in the 9th, to her because she would have been honest from the beginning with whomever. Honest in the sense of telling whomever about her nature: that she could be with whomever for a certain amount of time, but not 'forever' in the sense of just remaining committed to that one person. When that has occurred in other lives it has, and will mean in the current life, that certain others have not been honest with themselves in terms of what they could or could not live with: her nature that needed freedom in general, freedom to be with others whenever she wanted to.

All of this is intensified by the fact that her Mars is in Gemini in the 7th, full phase inconjunct back to that Pluto in the 12th, the Mars of course the ruler of her N.Node in Aries in the natural Leo house, the Mars sextiling the S.Node ruler in Leo in the 9th. Of course these aspects all correlate to the fact that her Soul has, and will be, meeting lot's and lot's of people in a variety of social contexts. Thus, she will be experiencing many attractions to many of these people. One of the main vehicles that creates these attractions to others are those with whom she will have a high degree of intellectual and philosophical compatibility with, those that trigger her own intellectual and intuitive capacities. This intellectual/ philosophical meeting ground can thus trigger her emotional/ sexual responses to others. As a result, she can experience a multiple of attractions very quickly, or even at the same time.

What to do with these various attractions can thus correlate to 'crisis' in the sense of whom to actually become involved with emotionally/ sexually, and whom not. This crisis is intentional by her Soul because it is indeed learning, on an ongoing basis, that very lesson of whom to become intimate with and whom not, and for what reasons either way. In essence to exercise discrimination. One form that these crisis could take in order to enforce such a lesson is a physical one in the sense of creating sexual diseases for herself that occur through not being discriminate with others. Another form of crisis could manifest by others confronting her relative to the duplicity of being attracted to many others while being with them.

What will typically happen to such a Soul, at some point, is that she will become attracted to another Soul with whom she will want to commit to in every way: another Soul that symbolizes and represents everything that she feels that she needs. And when that happens she will then want to make a conscious choice to commit to just that one person: her Venus in Leo square her Pluto in Scorpio in the 12th. The crisis of belief within that last quarter square would be about believing that she needed absolute freedom to do whatever, be with whomever, to now needing, believing, that she needed just one other.

When that finally happened another crisis could then happen: that this one other that she finally found would very likely wound not be able to commit to one other that she herself wants to do. In other words another partner who be much like the way she had been herself for many lifetimes. This likelihood is symbolized by her N.Node in Aries in the Leo House, inconjunct back to her Pluto in the 12th, it's ruler that very Mars in Gemini in her 7th, sextile her Venus in Leo in the 9th. In essence another who 'mirrored' her former self.

This would be intentional by her own Soul. This kind of mirroring affect is for her own self learning purposes. And this self learning is for her to continue to evolve. And one of those evolutionary intentions, as symbolized by her Venus square the Pluto is the lesson of commitment itself: the value of being committed to one other Soul on a Soul/ emotional/ sexual basis. So, in essence, she will learn to become monogamous  and VALUE IT.



Rad


Bradley J

Rad and all,
I'm posting this next part I'd been working on and finished.  After I typed this, I did read over Ari Moshe's and your last posts.  The awareness of what you wrote about the monogamy question certainly brings in another layer.  I did not want to be too redundant here, yet hoping to see that I'm still on track with the following.

Thanks,
Bradley

Looking back on what I've brought forth thus far, I keep coming back to the "˜why?' question.  Why?  What is the evolutionary reasons for all of these relationship and sexual dynamics written about?
Stepping back and reviewing the whole signature thus far, rereading more - there are a few dynamics that really keep coming up.
     
       The evolutionary need for her to learn discretion, discrimination, and to "˜fine tune' her choices/adjusting to pick and choose exactly what relationships she will draw from, expose herself to, and allow to influence and impact her life.  This is coming from 1. the ppp is 6th, 2. the venus(as sn ruler and trine nn) squaring pluto, 3. sn in libra 11th, and 4. the waning inconjuncts of nn and it's ruler to pluto.  So, within this, we see the themes of virgo/6th need to self adjust as well as waning inconjunct(scorpionic/8th) need to socially adjust and learn exactly what will be of use at a core level.  Of course, the venus pluto square reinforces all of these lessons and evolutionary needs.   Basically, as we have already stated, her vast exposure to so many intense, powerful, and persuasive individuals and groups has been part of the her evolutionary lessons in many past lives.  She has already opened up to, on an individual level, many many experiences with so many different people and perspectives.  Thus, the evolutionary need to adjust and discriminate is essential to allow her to set her own limits and parameters to have the capacity to stabalize and settle into a specific work/service/role in which she is helping her community and people also stabilize and secure what is of value to their group's shared vision.  If she does continue to "˜spread herself thin' by lacking the discrimination of when to stop listening, stop engaging, and at times simply excluding certain opinions, ideas, and perspectives she will have crises in centering herself and having a core source of energy inside herself which she can tap into to continue with her own work.  We have already discussed her potential to overwork and burn out in this regard and the physical impact - hence the health crisis - she will experience as the "˜universe'/"˜God' calls her to make her needed adjustments.
       
     Sexually speaking, is sex important for her in this life and why?  This is one of my questions.  With the north node in the 5th house, venus pluto squaring, and pluto being in scorpio 12th - thus polarity point is taurus 6th, I'm saying that YES - sex will be important for her for a couple main reasons.  Is sex an evolutionary neccessity for her to evolve in this lifetime?  I do not know    this right now.  So, first, with Pluto scorpio in the 12th, sexuality will be a sacred experience, the "˜little death' of orgasm would be a gateway to experience divinity.  She, of course, may not use these words, yet would have this experience.
 
       Relative to the evolutionary needs of learning to discriminate - especially in relationships(venus square pluto) we know that she has shared and opened up to others, on a mundane level as well as sexual, in which she has, in her past, learned via many relationships and sexual experiences exactly who she is and who she is not(venus as sn ruler/sn 11th libra/square to pluto)  In her past, this was needed for her individuation/evolution.  Currently, she is learning to apply this awareness of who she is to proceed to actualize her vision of her life purpose. (nodal axis 11/5)  The signature has a lot of air and fire - granted we do not know about mercury and 3rd house, yet we see that the pluto polarity point is double earth -taurus 6th, while the south node by house and sign is double air - libra 11th.  This, relative to the dominate air and fire of the nodes and rulers, in a sexual context, says that she, for evolution to continue, would be continuing to(already activated nn and ppp) find specific practical techniques and routines by which she can create rhythm to an otherwise potentially scattered reality in her day to day living.  Sex alone is not THE way for her, yet when in natural time she partners with the right person(venus 9th trine nn), the sex within that relationship, routinely,  will allow her to ground down into herself, anchoring all the mental energy as well as release of excessive nervous and adrenal energy.  So, in this sense, sex would be helpful in bringing her from a more fragmented and scattered energy to the rooting into the karma yoga she is destined to do. 

Rad

Hi Bradley,

A couple of things to understand about her paradigm. One is that her sexual needs/ rhythm will not be predictable. Her rhythm/ needs can fluctuate from being in a pattern of almost zero need to total need with all possibilities in between. This is symbolized by her S.Node in the 11th, it's ruler in Leo in the 12th, and the ruler of her N.Node, and the N.Node itself inconjunct her Pluto. Her challenge is to be in harmony with her unpredictable patterns sexually/ emotionally. If not, then various emotional/ psychological/ and sexual issues can arise that create crisis for her, and her partner.
Within this she can have cycles of being so 'detached' from herself and others that this mental detachment can affect her emotional/ sexual ability to respond to sexual/ emotional stimulus. This can then cause inner frustration for her that could then manifest as wanting to try increasingly intense forms of sexual expression in order to 'feel' again. With her Mars in Gemini, and the S.Node in the 11th, this could also create a high degrees of sexual 'curiosity' to explore/ experience a diverse array of sexual possibilities. Exploring some of these curiosities could also create a high degree of Soul humiliation AFTER THE FACT.
Sexuality is important for her evolution for it is a vehicle through which her evolution from many of the past life dynamics that need to be jettisoned so that she can progressively learn/ know that which correlates to her actual nature.

Rad

Bradley J

Wow! Thank you.

Rad, do you want us to still continue with this assignment?  If so, I was planning to rewrite and synthesize all that I've learned around relationships and sexuality with our practice chart; unless you have other suggested direction/guidance.
Also, wondering if there are other aspects to this you would like to bring to our awareness that we have yet to realize?

I keep going back to the genuine sincerity and honesty of this soul as you have expressed- the root of this coming from the pluto scorpio 12th?  In combination with the sn and ruler?

We have observation and correlation yes, and then we also have the story that the chart alone speaks regarding the soul.  In the dvd's Jeffery teaches looking at the orientation and soul intent as seen thru the chart.  I'm thinking of an example where it was clear that the soul had made a contract with evil several lifetimes back.  Here, in this practice chart, we have the opposite - the innocence of the openness of a soul in which they have been wounded and experienced trauma as a result. 
Question:  Would there be a chart with a pluto 12th in which it could be seen right away that the soul has made a contract with evil?   

Rad

Hi Bradley,


Quote from: Bradley J on Jun 02, 2010, 10:28 PM

Rad, do you want us to still continue with this assignment?  If so, I was planning to rewrite and synthesize all that I've learned around relationships and sexuality with our practice chart; unless you have other suggested direction/guidance.
Also, wondering if there are other aspects to this you would like to bring to our awareness that we have yet to realize?

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Feels like we have done enough of this practice chart now. But if you want to do a rewrite and synthesize all that you have learned about the relationships/ sexuality dynamics please feel free to do. Of course there are many other things that could be said about the practice chart we have been working on, but I feel we have covered enough now on this one.

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I keep going back to the genuine sincerity and honesty of this soul as you have expressed- the root of this coming from the pluto scorpio 12th?  In combination with the sn and ruler?

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Yes...and the N.Node trine the S.Node ruler, it's own ruler, Mars, sexitle the ruler of the S.Node

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We have observation and correlation yes, and then we also have the story that the chart alone speaks regarding the soul.  In the dvd's Jeffery teaches looking at the orientation and soul intent as seen thru the chart.  I'm thinking of an example where it was clear that the soul had made a contract with evil several lifetimes back.  Here, in this practice chart, we have the opposite - the innocence of the openness of a soul in which they have been wounded and experienced trauma as a result. 
Question:  Would there be a chart with a pluto 12th in which it could be seen right away that the soul has made a contract with evil?   

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As I recall Bradley Wolf never taught or said that one can determine from just the chart alone whether a Soul has made a contract with Evil. That one always must employ observation and correlation to the chart at hand. So, no, whether it's a 12th House Pluto, or any other signature, one can not make that determination just from the chart.




God Bless, Rad

Rad

Hi Practice Chart Group,

First, need to know how many of you still want to do this practice chart stuff ? And, if any of you have a need to make it more simple again as in simply putting Pluto in a House, the N and S Nodes in Houses, and the location of their rulers. I am happy to keep doing these practice charts but need to know what the group needs, and who is in it.

God Bless,

Rad

Bradley J

Yes, another opportunity sounds great.  Same approach would be great; also open to other requests.
Thanks

Linda

Hi there Rad,

Yes, I would very much like to participate in this practice again. I should have my new eye glasses very soon.  Together with Stephen, I would like to go back to just putting Pluto/Nodes/rulers in houses as in this alone there would be thousands of combinations, and getting the basics right is so essential.  I got lost with the advanced stuff.  Simplicity is the essence I feel.  Bless you, thank you.

Elen

Hi Rad,

I'm interested but extremely caught up in getting ready for my move in a couple weeks, so won't be able to actively participate for awhile.  Also, I don't know how long the adjustment period will take once I'm in my new locale.  So, I'm interested, and the simpler the better, but can't say for sure that I can contribute...

Peace and thank you,
Ellen

stephen

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Hi Rad,

  Thanks for mentoring this thread.

 I would very much like to do these again.

 I would vote for maybe starting a new thread when the new chart is started (this thread is getting to be quite a big print job to read remotely!).  For myself, I would like to start once once again with the basics, as you suggested.

Blessings,
Stephen

ari moshe

I'm all in for another!

I personally want immense complexity. The kind that pushes me to try harder. AND I am more than grateful for the simple stuff as there is great depth and a lot to learn, practice in just the basics.
Thank you for offering to keep on going with this Rad,
Ari Moshe

Elen

Maybe this is too complicated, but perhaps there could be 2 versions of the same practice chart, 1 simple - just the basics, 1 more complex - with some added dimensions to it.

Peace,

Ellen

Upasika

Hi Rad,

Its long been a goal of mine to get involved with the practice charts thread, but I do have a lot on my plate at the moment - moving house over June, and then health treatments for a couple of months. So I probably cannot participate for a while ... but I'm ultra keen, and really hope the thread is still going strong later when I will be able to partake. Also either the simple or more advanced stuff is fine with me, but I think my abilities are more at the simple level. However either is fine, the complex is just more of a challenge but I don't mind that.

And I am really grateful that you're doing this for us Rad - thank you heaps.

blessings Upasika

Rad

Hi Upasika,

Thanks for your message Upasika. All the best in your house move, and of course will send prayers that the ongoing medical treatments you are having take hold and bear fruit.

God Bless, Rad

Rad

Hi Practice Chart Group,

Ok, let's start work on a new paradigm. We will do this one is a much simpler way than the most recent ones. Back to the basics, so to speak. The Evolutionary State will be in the last part of the 3rd Stage Consensus, a 10th House Pluto, the S.Node will be in the 8th House, and it's ruler will be the 12th House. So we will have the Pluto polarity point in the 4th, the N.Node in the 2nd, and it's ruler will be the 11th House.

So, let's have a go of it !

Rad