PRACTICE CHARTS

[Bradley J]

Hi Rad,
Thanks for your continued support and dedication to our learning here.
Yes, I will continue to develop and incorporate and study relative to this assignment.

[Linda]

PRACTICE CHART:  Ok, so we will start with a new paradigm. We will make this the chart of a white male, born into upper middle economic conditions, no specific religious conditioning, born in Canada, who is in the last stages of the 1st Stage Individuated evolutionary condition, who has Pluto in Virgo conjunct Uranus in the 2nd House, S.Node is in Scorpio in the 5th House, N.Node in Taurus in the 11th, and it's ruler Venus in Aqaurius in the 7th, and it's squaring the Nodes. Additionally, that Venus is inconjunct the natal Uranus.  Let's have a go at it !



Background and Evolutionary Condition
Born into the upper middle class in Canada, the Soul's own father's prescription or role model (SN 5th) for higher education, liberal beliefs, professional work, above-average income, and heterosexuality would at first be employed in order that life appear "normal" from a consensus point of view (1st Stage Individuated). However, while the Soul had not been living who he really is (1st Individuated), living a lie, and hiding behind a detached and unapproachable nature (Uranus conj Pluto, NN 11th, Venus in Aquarius), he is beginning to shake off "external conditioning patterns" as he discovers more about who he naturally is through ongoing individuated self-discovery (end of 1st Stage Individuated) as well as through crisis, shocks, trauma, confrontation and feedback from friends, partners, lovers, workmates and groups. 


Core orientation
The prior evolutionary intention is rooted in the act of internalization and withdrawal in order to discover his values and needs from within himself (2nd). Through self-analysis he is learning to contribute to the wider social system in a meaningful way (Virgo), by relating to other people's values (2nd), listening to different realities of people through contrast and comparison (7th), creating awareness of the lesson of opening up and merging with powerful "others" such as intimate partners or employers (PPP 8th), and liberating from relationship forms as defined by the consensus (Venus in Aquarius 7th, skipped steps, 1st Stage Individuated). 

Limited vision and a high degree of resistance are evident by virtue of the main karmic signature (fixed, 2nd, 5th, and 11th, Scorpio, Taurus, and Aquarius).  The core orientation is self-centredness (SN 5th), and in order to move toward equality in his relationships (7th), he will necessarily create a self-introspective consciousness (Virgo) in order to improve himself.  In his ongoing individuated journey his intense self-examination leads to ever-deeper levels of self-knowledge (Scorpio).  Repeating signatures correlate to a natural bisexuality (in all areas of the core dynamic).

He has a tendency to live in his head (Virgo, 7th), to be detached and unapproachable (Uranus, 11th, Aquarius), withdrawn, isolated, fixed, masturbatory (2nd), secretive, powerful, highly sexual (Scorpio), self-centred, high narcissistic (5th), non-conventional, rebellious (Uranus).  Trying to appear "normal" generates enormous frustration and isolation. 


Skipped Steps and Sexuality
In the evolutionary past he created a situation based on denial of his true sexuality due to psychological and emotional withholding of himself, and he is endeavouring to recover those steps via the resolution node (SN).  There is a seesaw back and forth in the areas of the South and North Nodes, and in the present life, for the skipped steps to be recovered, key relationships need to be re-ignited, around the denial of his bisexuality (Venus square Nodes). The old patterns describe the use of his own body as a symbol of self-reliance and inner power because it is what he knows and trusts.  There is a repetitive pattern of over-compensation or of being of powerful sexual service (Virgo) because of his sexual inadequacy with partners, which has affected his self-worth (2nd) at a core level.

In order to appear "normal" (1st Individuated) his relationships start out as the conventional and heterosexual kind.  Due to an inability to really be sexually intimate with a partner, he brings a false sense of intensity (Scorpio) to the sexual act by way of sexual techniques (Virgo), that are devoid of true feeling and connection.  This can be further exacerbated by feelings of masochism, inadequacy and impurity (Virgo). 

The neglect of his partners leads to imbalance in relationships (7th) which leads to confrontations and crisis (such as secret affairs, separation, divorce, children and father being affected, family upheaval, toppling of pyramid structure, sexual problems, trauma, shock - Scorpio 5th) and necessary feedback as to who he truly is. The emotional and psychological shocks and confrontations with partners will lead to the conscious awareness of a phallus obsession (5th), bisexuality (Uranus/Pluto inconjunct Venus, NN 11th), as well as feelings of intense betrayal, loss and abandonment (Scorpio).  This leads him to examine the cause of unresolved traumas and his inability to engage intimately with others (Pluto/Uranus square Nodes; 11th, Venus in Aquarius).


Soul Crisis and Trauma
This karmic signature can lead to the constant repetition of crisis and trauma of all kinds such as mental trauma, having to modify his value system, changing his fixed beliefs, loss of material possessions, loss of relationships or what he values (Uranus 2nd), psychological separation, isolation, sadomasochism, persecution complex (Uranus in Virgo), trauma in the workplace due to a different approach to work, feelings of inadequacy, inability to actualize correct work function, hiding behind work, keeping constantly busy, loss of employment, changes in career path, ridicule and public humiliation, and feelings of victimization. 

When shocks and traumas such as these take place, he is forced to withdraw, look within, ask "why," make an honest assessment (Scorpio), make necessary adjustments (Virgo), and learn through the vehicle of disillusionment (PPP).  These processes expose his personal limitations and ways of relating to reality, and allow him to objectively see the truth of himself, and bring awareness to his core sexual identity (skipped steps).


Liberation
This soul has sought to liberate from external conditions that prevent a direct experience of his inner core. He is able to liberate himself from relationship forms that are defined by the consensus.  He learns about his differentness through a process of elimination:  an awareness of what he is not so that his true natural self is revealed.  He will form relationships with others who feel just as disconnected and detached as himself and who will offer objective feedback as to the structure of his own psychology and relationships.  He is learning to find a balance between self-reliance and a need for intimacy;  relationships where both partners can arrive at their own self-reliance, while being committed on a self-sufficient basis;  the freedom to have relationships with both men and women;  to relate to others in a totally different way;  and a freeing up of his true nature.


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[Elen]

I just wanted to let all my dear new friends on here know that I have not posted bc since returning from my trip to Florida, my already weakened state of health has become a bit more intense. I do not have the energy right now. I will keep reading the board, of course, but I simply do not have the energy right now to work on the practice charts. I hope to regain my strength and stability soon.  Keep me in your hearts and prayers. I will keep checking in.
Maybe someone good at the medical portion of ea could direct me to helpful post/topic on here or something. -- any input would be so appreciated right about now (perhaps under a different thread, not here on practice charts, of course).

Love,
Dhyana

Hi Dhyana,

I'm so sorry to hear about your ill health.  I just wanted you to know that I'm thinking of you and wishing you well.

Peace,
Ellen

[Rad]

Hi Linda,

PRACTICE CHART:  Ok, so we will start with a new paradigm. We will make this the chart of a white male, born into upper middle economic conditions, no specific religious conditioning, born in Canada, who is in the last stages of the 1st Stage Individuated evolutionary condition, who has Pluto in Virgo conjunct Uranus in the 2nd House, S.Node is in Scorpio in the 5th House, N.Node in Taurus in the 11th, and it's ruler Venus in Aqaurius in the 7th, and it's squaring the Nodes. Additionally, that Venus is inconjunct the natal Uranus.  Let's have a go at it !



Background and Evolutionary Condition
Born into the upper middle class in Canada, the Soul's own father's prescription or role model (SN 5th) for higher education, liberal beliefs, professional work, above-average income, and heterosexuality would at first be employed in order that life appear "normal" from a consensus point of view (1st Stage Individuated). However, while the Soul had not been living who he really is (1st Individuated), living a lie, and hiding behind a detached and unapproachable nature (Uranus conj Pluto, NN 11th, Venus in Aquarius), he is beginning to shake off "external conditioning patterns" as he discovers more about who he naturally is through ongoing individuated self-discovery (end of 1st Stage Individuated) as well as through crisis, shocks, trauma, confrontation and feedback from friends, partners, lovers, workmates and groups. 

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There is nothing in the paradigm that we are working with that suggests that his father had 'liberal' beliefs or values.

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Core orientation
The prior evolutionary intention is rooted in the act of internalization and withdrawal in order to discover his values and needs from within himself (2nd). Through self-analysis he is learning to contribute to the wider social system in a meaningful way (Virgo), by relating to other people's values (2nd),

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Other peoples values would correlate to the 7th House, and Libra not the 2nd House .. the 2nd House correlates to one's own values that connect to the sense of meaning for living ............

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listening to different realities of people through contrast and comparison (7th), creating awareness of the lesson of opening up and merging with powerful "others" such as intimate partners or employers (PPP 8th), and liberating from relationship forms as defined by the consensus (Venus in Aquarius 7th, skipped steps, 1st Stage Individuated). 

Limited vision and a high degree of resistance are evident by virtue of the main karmic signature (fixed, 2nd, 5th, and 11th, Scorpio, Taurus, and Aquarius).  The core orientation is self-centredness (SN 5th), and in order to move toward equality in his relationships (7th), he will necessarily create a self-introspective consciousness (Virgo) in order to improve himself.  In his ongoing individuated journey his intense self-examination leads to ever-deeper levels of self-knowledge (Scorpio).  Repeating signatures correlate to a natural bisexuality (in all areas of the core dynamic).

He has a tendency to live in his head (Virgo, 7th), to be detached and unapproachable (Uranus, 11th, Aquarius), withdrawn, isolated, fixed, masturbatory (2nd), secretive, powerful, highly sexual (Scorpio), self-centred, high narcissistic (5th), non-conventional, rebellious (Uranus).  Trying to appear "normal" generates enormous frustration and isolation. 


Skipped Steps and Sexuality
In the evolutionary past he created a situation based on denial of his true sexuality due to psychological and emotional withholding of himself, and he is endeavouring to recover those steps via the resolution node (SN).  There is a seesaw back and forth in the areas of the South and North Nodes, and in the present life, for the skipped steps to be recovered, key relationships need to be re-ignited, around the denial of his bisexuality (Venus square Nodes). The old patterns describe the use of his own body as a symbol of self-reliance and inner power because it is what he knows and trusts.  There is a repetitive pattern of over-compensation or of being of powerful sexual service (Virgo) because of his sexual inadequacy with partners, which has affected his self-worth (2nd) at a core level.

In order to appear "normal" (1st Individuated) his relationships start out as the conventional and heterosexual kind.  Due to an inability to really be sexually intimate with a partner, he brings a false sense of intensity (Scorpio) to the sexual act by way of sexual techniques (Virgo), that are devoid of true feeling and connection.  This can be further exacerbated by feelings of masochism, inadequacy and impurity (Virgo). 

The neglect of his partners leads to imbalance in relationships (7th) which leads to confrontations and crisis (such as secret affairs, separation, divorce, children and father being affected, family upheaval, toppling of pyramid structure, sexual problems, trauma, shock - Scorpio 5th) and necessary feedback as to who he truly is. The emotional and psychological shocks and confrontations with partners will lead to the conscious awareness of a phallus obsession (5th), bisexuality (Uranus/Pluto inconjunct Venus, NN 11th), as well as feelings of intense betrayal, loss and abandonment (Scorpio).  This leads him to examine the cause of unresolved traumas and his inability to engage intimately with others (Pluto/Uranus square Nodes; 11th, Venus in Aquarius).


Soul Crisis and Trauma
This karmic signature can lead to the constant repetition of crisis and trauma of all kinds such as mental trauma, having to modify his value system, changing his fixed beliefs, loss of material possessions, loss of relationships or what he values (Uranus 2nd), psychological separation, isolation, sadomasochism, persecution complex (Uranus in Virgo), trauma in the workplace due to a different approach to work, feelings of inadequacy, inability to actualize correct work function, hiding behind work, keeping constantly busy, loss of employment, changes in career path, ridicule and public humiliation, and feelings of victimization. 

When shocks and traumas such as these take place, he is forced to withdraw, look within, ask "why," make an honest assessment (Scorpio), make necessary adjustments (Virgo), and learn through the vehicle of disillusionment (PPP).  These processes expose his personal limitations and ways of relating to reality, and allow him to objectively see the truth of himself, and bring awareness to his core sexual identity (skipped steps).


Liberation
This soul has sought to liberate from external conditions that prevent a direct experience of his inner core. He is able to liberate himself from relationship forms that are defined by the consensus.  He learns about his differentness through a process of elimination:  an awareness of what he is not so that his true natural self is revealed.  He will form relationships with others who feel just as disconnected and detached as himself and who will offer objective feedback as to the structure of his own psychology and relationships.  He is learning to find a balance between self-reliance and a need for intimacy;  relationships where both partners can arrive at their own self-reliance, while being committed on a self-sufficient basis;  the freedom to have relationships with both men and women;  to relate to others in a totally different way;  and a freeing up of his true nature.


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Very, very good analysis so far. Keep going ...................

Rad

[Bradley J]

checking in.
please proceed if it feels right.
I am still planning to work on this and looks like I should have time to do this in next few days.
Blessings,
Bradley

[Rad]

HI Group,

Wanting to find out who is still in our little group for the practice charts, so please let me know. And for those who have already done some work in the current one that we have been working on let me know who still indends to continue to do so like Bradley. Want to determine when it would be the right time to post the next practice chart.

Rad

[Elen]

Hi Rad,

I'm interested but my life's a little crazy right now.  But if I can navigate the change well enough, I'd like to continue.  So I guess I'm saying yes, but I can't promise...

Peace,
Ellen

[Dhyana]

Hi Rad,

Because of my health situation at the moment, it's probably best if I didnt commit to anymore practice charts --but just right now -- this is just temporary ( I hope).  I have such limited time with the computer lately.
If you guys are still going to work on the present chart for a week or two more and the new practice chart isnt  given out until then, then at that time (the release of the new practice chart) I can re-assess my health situation in this regard.

How often do you usually give out practice charts  --roughly?

Thanks for asking.

Dhyana

[Linda]

Rad,

Yes I would like to continue with Practice Charts. 
Is there any further work on this paradigm that you wish us to do?

Thanks!

[ari moshe]

Dear Rad,
Thank you, yes, I would like very much to continue. This is such an amazing learning thread.

[Bradley J]

After reading the posts and related chapters, and rereading my first post, I have learned a lot here.  Decided to focus on developing themes that I did not go into much in previous post.  This may be a bit jumpy-a-roundish, yet it makes sense rather than re-write and restate all the previous.

Work
   We have spoken of this man's own withdraw into himself(pluto 2/sn scorpio - ruler 2nd).  Based on these ongoing lessons on complete self sufficiency from his past, we see he can easily "do his part".  And yet, due to his own inner unconscious guilt from the past when he "failed" to truly serve a meaningful role relative to the group he was choosing to involve himself with, he also has a cyclic pattern in which his core creative purpose has gone through "death and rebirth"(sn scorpio 5) - repeatedly analyzing his own lack in perfectly doing his role has resulted in his being stuck in the limits of his own capabilities.  In effect, he would allow his previous purpose to die and initiate involvement and work again when he experienced a "rebirth" of a new sense of his own purpose. 
He has shocking feedback from a diversity of other peoples (venus 7/aquarius inconjunct uranus) regarding his needs to adjust his behavior - especially regarding trusting others to share the work load, adjust his own role to fit the group values, not simply his own values.(nn taurus 11/all that 2nd)  He has become so inwardly focused that to move beyond controlling his work role via his own will power required necessary shocks and confrontations  and betrayals which have triggered the needed self analysis which did begin his process of needed self adjustment - coming out of his well/cave to experience the fulfillment of merging with a power outside his own limits-thru the group of like-minded individuals he would surround himself with. 
   It is clear (nn ruler square nodes) he did begin such a process - via starting to listen to what others are telling him - taking from it the parts that resonate with meaning for his own role and adjusting accordingly.(venus aquarius)  And yet, his own propensity to retreat back into "doing it himself"(entire P.L. signature) repeatedly results in him either not sharing in the work experience due to the simplicity of doing it himself, the lack of trust he has in others to pay attention to all the details, and because he lost a sense of his own creative role when he began to open up to listen to so many others opinions and ideas about how the work should be carried out.  This sense of working with the group, yet loosing his own purpose in it is an experience that would be responded to by retreating back into just doing his part by himself.  But because his role is now influenced by others ideas and he hasn't yet had a rebirth of his own purpose within this, the work is becoming simply meaningless.  The resulting emptiness within and aloneness becomes overwhelming.  At this point, he will need to truly forgive himself for all his "mistakes" and tolerate the imperfections in his own ability to work together as well as provide the same unconditional support to his cohorts.  At karmic points in his life, key people will come into his life that will give him the feedback (venus as ruler nn in aquarius 7th inconjunct uranus/pluto 2/square to nodes))that he really needs to hear to support him making these self adjustments.  This feedback and sharing will potentially awaken in the core of his being(inconjunct to uranus 2)how to reclaim for himself a purpose (venus square- skipped step sn 5)within the sharing of his talents (ppp)within socially meaningful roles(nn 11/ongoing lesson pluto virgo).   This process has the potential to be very humbling and growth oriented provided his own guilt and mistrust don't send him into the cave of mental and emotional paralysis.  What he may realize through the crisis of these "service failures" is that in his own effort to fill a socially meaningful role with his own talents he set up the experience of loosing his own purpose in his effort to listen to everyone else's opinions.

Sexual Nature and Relationships:

When he is done working for the day, he retreats back to his den for food and masturbation.  He has a naturally strong masturbatory desire(pluto 2 and ruler sn scorpio5th) and this becomes his own way to "ground out" and release from the experiences of the day(often).  Within his own sexuality, he carries guilt - although he may not think this consciously.  He has been so self sexually focused, he has highly developed response to himself touching himself.
    Past life relationships in which he was not sexually fulfilling, not emotionally present, and the resulting traumas are part of the cause of this guilt he carries regarding his sexual nature.  He also carries the guilt of attracting partners and then being really distant and withdrawn.  He carries with him also deep fears of loss and betrayal which are huge hurdles to overcome on the road to real intimacy.
   This lifetime is certainly about casting off and freeing himself from the guilt that is held deep within (pluto -uranus new conjunction 2nd). ?would this actually be stored in the physical body?  Guilt of not being sexually adequate in pleasing and fulfilling past partners.  Part of his guilt is because he has masturbated so much and responds more to his own touch than his past partners.  And that he is more focused on the phallus and male sex organs and has been in heterosexual relationships because it was what a "normal" person would do. (1st individuated)   Also, his partners haven't been able to touch him in a way that is equal in  gratification to his own touch.  Actual intercourse with women partners would be so stimulating to the highly developed nerves on his penis that he ejaculates very quickly.  Of course, the woman was just getting started.  So, he sees this as a failure on some level.   Out of this sense of guilt for failing to sexually fulfill, he has worked hard to learn specific sexual techniques; way of atoning for the guilt(pluto virgo 2).  Although these techniques may bring the female partner he is with the experience of an intense orgasm, he is not actually emotionally sharing of himself in this regard - it is a secondhand sex high for him that lasts a short while.  For her, it is sexual, but distant on an emotional level and lacking intimacy.  In these types of relationships, he has experiences of total powerlessness because he is still not accepting his own sexual nature. 
Then comes the shock and confrontation in which his partner declares she is leaving because he is so not emotionally present and so self focused.  She is not having a deep connection and lacks attention.  She doesn't feel he is being honestly open and sharing himself in the relationship (pluto 2nd/scorpio sn/ nn 11/inconjunct etc.)  Or he finds out she has been having an affair and a confrontation ensues.

As this cyclic crises continue, we hope he is learning why he created these crisis.  The answer lies in learning to liberate from the definition of normal social roles and values that his culture has taught him.(pluto-uranus/nn11taurus/late 1st ind)  Within this, liberating from what he was taught relationships are suppose to be like - obviously not for him. 
It is possible on some level, due to the guilt he carries and resulting atoning actions, he has continued to create this crises because he feels he doesn't deserve better.
In this case, the soul's movement into middle individuated may lead into the end of this measuring of self worth on a socially taught standard.  Yet, it is clear from this signature that the soul intends to liberate from all values that do not resonate at core level and continue to objectively see what holds most meaning for him as an individual.(uranus/pluto 2, nn 11 taurus, ruler venus aquarius)
Self acceptance of his own sexual nature will be an important step.  This step in evolution will come, again, from key relationships(nn ruler) in which the other reflects back to him the true nature of his desires and needs ...AND( this is a big part of it) how to simply accept all these parts of himself.  Acceptance of how he desires to sexually share himself(ppp 8 pisces)  It is thru conversations with these key relationships in which he would actually realize the "normalness" of his own bisexual nature(pluto-uranus 2/sn scorpio 5th/ nn 11 taurus-ruler aquarius 7th)  He can begin to accept the nature of his desire to experiment outside of the cultural norms with relationships.  This would be fueled by a personal rebirth in his own sexuality (resolved skipped step to sn 5 scorpio)- acceptance of his own bisexuality.

"Individuated Unconscious Memory"
With pluto/uranus in the second virgo, it suggests that this soul is now learning that withdrawing into his self is a place he encounters, at certain times,  memories from his own unconsciousness.  These flashes of memory are related to past lives, his repressed memories, and his own "blueprint" of what he is becoming. 
Due to the unpredictable nature of these bursts from his unconscious memory(1st ind), at any time he may be needing to suddenly process and release these memories as they surface.  Being sexually mental (virgo 2nd), some of the memories may be triggered by his own orgasm-sudden release of past life memory or future memory into the conscious mind.  Due to the trine of the pluto-uranus to the north node, he has learned to integrate the memories as they surface and liberate/eliminate the memories that no longer identify who he essentially is(nn 11taurus).  He has begun a new evolutionary cycle in which he has quickened in this lifetime the clearing out and release of all the old ways of self analysis and what constitutes meaningful social roles.(2nd house stuff + nn) 
In light of this and Uranus's inconjunct to venus aquarius, this life for him is a cyclic house clearing of the totality of his past that will not serve the evolution of his soul as he nears the middle of individuated evolution.  All memories that contain socially imprinted values, failure to fulfill these expectations, and guilt of such failures are wanting to be brought to the consciousness and eliminated. 
At his evolutionary stage, what capacity does he have to do this type of work?

And yet, relative to the nn ruler venus inconjunct uranus and the ppp is pisces in the 8th, these memories bursting up into his consciousness at uncontrollable moments in time may also trigger confusion and disorientation.  Relative to the newness of the pluto uranus phase, his own encountering of this experience is new also.   

I feel like I could add more on relationship dynamics.  I'll wait for feedback and rest.
Thanks for your time,
Bradley

[Rad]

Hi Bradley,

First, EXCEPTIONAL work here ............. bravo. The guilt that he carries is reflected in his body, yes. And that guilt is held in his body in such a way that his physical body will almost always be in a state of rigidity. In terms of his evolutionary state, and the ability to do what he needs to do in order to evolve, the answer is yes. If we look at this paradigm in the deepest way, the Venus in Aquarius in the 7th squaring his Nodes, inconjuncting his Pluto/Uranus with Uranus being the ruler of that Venus, he will, at some point, attract an intimate partner/ marriage mate who reflects back to him his core sexual nature by being in that same situation herself: that she will realize that her own core nature is also bisexual with her first choice being women. Just as he is bisexual with his first choice being men. So what this means is both of them ending up becoming partner together due to mutual compensation as defined by the 'norms' of society. As a result of then being together due to compensation in this way they will then create the relationship dynamics that have been amply and correctly identified by you and others. As some point the necessary emotional/ psychological shocks that will be created will then lead to the mutual awareness within one another of their core emotional/ psychological/ sexual natures. At that necessary point of realization for both of them this will then lead to the dialoges necessary of how to adjust their relationship to reflect these core realizations. In all likelihood they would have had children prior to this point: his S.Node in the 5th. That fact would then cause them to want to sustain the marriage because of the commitments made of course to the children. So at the point the need to design creative solutions for their relationships would be at hand, solutions that honored their existing commitment to one another, and their children.

Bravo Bradley,

Rad

[Bradley J]

Rad,
Thanks for the support and feedback.
...and for adding these aspects of marriage and children. 
 
A question I have still is regarding his father.  Reading Ari Moshe and your dialog on this made sense.  Yet I lack the perspective of the same planetary signature in different houses.
Is the information we know about his father exclusively tied to the south node being in the fifth?
Would the sextiling sn ruler alone give us any of this information?

My own answer is that this speaks directly to his father's support and providing what he 'needs' to 'make it' is hinged on this being 5th and 2nd house sextile relationship. 
I'm sensing that the sextile of pluto as sn ruler to south node alone does tell us there will be ease of some sort in the  transitioning from child, youth, young adult and beyond the saturn return.
Where that ease is and how it manifests in hinged on the house placement. 
If this were a south node in the forth and the pluto/uranus was in the 2nd still, would this support be more about the family in general and perhaps the mother specifically before the father?

Thanks,
Bradley 

[Rad]

Hi Bradley,

A question I have still is regarding his father.  Reading Ari Moshe and your dialog on this made sense.  Yet I lack the perspective of the same planetary signature in different houses.
Is the information we know about his father exclusively tied to the south node being in the fifth?
Would the sextiling sn ruler alone give us any of this information?

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This is why it is so important to understand the individual context of any given Soul. Remember this is a Soul that is bisexual with a preference for men before a women. Thus, he trusts men more than women. Looking at this whole paradigm we can see that he has experienced a variety of traumas linked with women: his Venus in Aquarius in the 7th, not only squaring his Nodes, but inconjunct his Pluto and Uranus in the 2nd. The reasons for those traumas we have identified in this thread. As a result, in his context, he would naturally trust men more than women which leads to his father being trusted more than his mother. So, yes, in this context that is symbolized in his S.Node in Scorpio in the 5th sextiling his Pluto/Uranus in the 2nd. So he would naturally 'bond' with the father more than the mother.

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My own answer is that this speaks directly to his father's support and providing what he 'needs' to 'make it' is hinged on this being 5th and 2nd house sextile relationship.
I'm sensing that the sextile of pluto as sn ruler to south node alone does tell us there will be ease of some sort in the  transitioning from child, youth, young adult and beyond the saturn return.
Where that ease is and how it manifests in hinged on the house placement.
If this were a south node in the forth and the pluto/uranus was in the 2nd still, would this support be more about the family in general and perhaps the mother specifically before the father?

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That signature would still have Venus in Aquarius in the 7th with the Nodes being squared from 4th to 10th. So, in his context, this would create much more of a confrontational dynamic with the mother than the other signature with the Nodes in the 5th/ 11th. The mother would be perceived by him as dominating, controlling, manipulative, and generally not supportive of who he is. This would also then correlate to being born through a mother that has been his mother before in which a variety of emotional/ psychological dynamics were not resolved. He would also perceive his father being dominated by his mother, and not offering the emotional protection that he needed. The sextile from the Pluto/Uranus to that S.Node in Scorpio, the trine to the N.Node in Taurus would then correlate to his way of surviving that type of mother: retreating even further into his Soul cocoon. In this context he would still very much be bonding with the father, and they would connect in a mutual cocoon relative to the dominance of the mother

Rad

[Jeff]

I have read through the thread and would like to participate in the next chart example, Thanks Rad!