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Karma and evolution.

Started by Sunya, Feb 29, 2020, 03:37 AM

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Sunya

Hi all, I will like to share with you some thoughts with you and if is possible to get some feedback from Rad and others.

It's about evolution and karma.

It's a common thought that from live to live we go higher and higher evolving up to enlighment.

But according to my observations it's more the other way around involution not evolution.

It takes a lot of merit to be born as a human is a rare thing, and wen whe see society they are expending all the money of the karmic bank. This merit is build on conduct, virtue and quality of heart. Each one of us can see with the own eyes that this is going on...

Take most of the people you see, and just compare the quality of his happiness and heart, when they were children and how is decreasing when they get old... Why??? Because they are expending all the merit without building new one. So according to the new life start where you leave it the last one. It's impossible for most of the people to get a similar o better condition in the next life. Just because they die with a worst vibe and heart that the one they were born. So please don't waist time and cultivate your heart. You did it before, so you know how to do it, otherwise you will not be here with such a good conditions.


All the best

Rad

Hi Sunya,

Involution always precedes evolution. Involution correlates to desires in the human soul that have been acted out to the point of those desires have no more meaning or use to the Soul that leads to yet new desires in order to continue to evolve: involution leading to evolution. Those new desire leading to ongoing evolution themselves will lead to involution which leads to evolution.

It's that simple.

God Bless, Rad

Sunya

Thanks Rad!

It's not so simple for me. In fact I didn't answer before because I was trying to grasp it. But I couldn't.

In a simple way I can understand for example a soul that make some virtue actions.... This karmic lead to some kind of retribution... The should can (but can't also) take this retribution for fulfill personal egoic separate desires.... This new karma take him down again(take for example in ancient time a soul make heroic actions and save in some way the community, kind of egoless action for the wellbeing of everyone... Because of this society make him a king.... Some darkness arose in the soul, and because of separative desires, he use his new power to fulfill his own ego trip... He becomes in a tyrannical king... Because of that some revolutionary kill him, in the next life he is forced to reflect on his actions and abuses of power, that lead you to a change in more humble way, evolution again. so we have from no one to hero, to king/evolution... From king, to tyranny, to death to no one again/involution from no one to reflect to humble to egoless actions/evolution.

Is this example right???

Anyway

But this is a never-ending
karmic/hamster/wheel. Is there a way out to this cycle??  Is there a way that returning to source desires don't lead to new separative desires and fall again in a new trap. I mean just see that identify with the ego will lead to trouble at some point, and change to identify from ego to the source and then be liberated from that trap of grasping to all this body's and minds as a separate self?? All this desires are OK at some point, but finally they change and they don't give satisfaction, is like investing in a company that one knows is going to crash.

So according to EA one need to be in all this wheel of desires? Or is there the possibility to say... You know what? I have been many life's identifying with all this roles and all of them where just a dream, one after another,  but he one that perceive it is unchanging, just as a metaphore I was a screen, believing I was the movie project it there, but now I know I was the screen, because if I was the movie I would have finish when the movie was finish, but not, I was still there waiting from another movie and forgetting I was the screen to believe again I was the movie.  So just say.... I will not lie to myself again, I'm not the movie I am the screen where all this movies are played, I will not stop the movies to be projected, but I will not identified with them anymore, they come and go, but the screen remains.

Just a simple example, of awareness forgetting what it is and identifying with the content... Roles, egos, desires... All the things.

I hope I have explained my doubts more or less.  What I'm asking is how to finish with the separative desires? Or how to wake up without falling slepp again.


All the best

Sunya

And another thing to clarify because maybe I'm mixing up this concepts.

What is the difference if there is such a difference between the pair of separative  and returning to source desires and the pair evolutionary desires and resistance desires?

Rad

Hi Sunya,

All separating desires, whatever they are, will lead naturally to an involutionary state because, by their very nature, they are limited within the nature of whatever the separating desires are. All separating desires correlate to karma in one way or form or another. As each one of these separating desires ends, in-volutes, a natural evolution then occurs manifesting as yet more and different separating desires. All separating desires end because of the realization/ feeling in the Soul that whatever those separating desires are do not lead to an ultimate sense of satisfaction: the inner feeling; knowing of being HOME where HOME correlates to the very origin of the Soul itself. It is that desire, in all Souls, for that ultimate satisfaction of going HOME, being HOME, that propels the Soul from life to life as it works out all separating desires to the only desire that remains: to go HOME.

This is the natural and simple law of involution leading to evolution leading to involution back to evolution: the working out of all separating desires leading to the only desire that remains in all Souls: to go home to it's ORIGIN. 

God Bless, Rad

Sunya

Thank you Rad!

I want to share a quote, I don't remember the author. But it came to me when you mention home.

I was knocking the door of god, finally when the door was open I realized that I was knocking from inside...

Rad

Hi Suyya,

"I was knocking the door of god, finally when the door was open I realized that I was knocking from inside.."

Let's pray that all of us can realize exactly the same thing ........  :)

God Bless, Rad

Sunya

May everyone awaken to what they really are!!!