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Pluto conjunct integration point

Started by Sunya, Dec 21, 2019, 02:42 AM

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Sunya

Pluto conjunct integration point.


Hi all

I was wondering what happens when one planet is squaring nodes and pluto is in conjunction with the integration node.

So must be the emphasis in that house and sign despite is the house where pluto is located? In that case should we make emphasis on the pluto and not on the ppp?

As a way to illustrate it let's stablish south node and pluto seven house, north node 1st house. Sun squaring nodes in the 10th.

This could be a soul that has been flip flopping from learning a purpose of stablishing an inner authority and order (sun in the 10th) via South node learning to do it from others, could be teachers or partners (7th) or just do it by himself and rely only in his inner authority. Most probably learn a little from others then think I got it, stablish only in himself, see the fear and chaos and realize that he has not learned enough and come back to 7th house... We got the loop.

So my question is.... from the point of view of the integration node is clear that he need to recover the south node and learn from relations to others this squaring planet. sense of purpose in stablishing inner authority or for consensus fit into the general rules stractures and regulations. Or even could be being famous or an important role or authority in society...... But.... From the pluto point of view this learning through others or relationships is precisely the compulsion of the Soul, and every time the soul feel fears to stand by himself go back to take refugee in what others say. so will be better to  go out of this refuge, decrease it and realize it by himself via North node and Ppp. So....here...what should come first... Integration node or ppp????

I read that pluto conjunct South node is kind of exception to the rule of ppp. With karma revival of fruition ir trap in the south node, or a mix. That it means that in that cases as a rule in that cases should we forget partially the north node and the ppp. And focus on the south node and natal pluto???



And another question what is the role of the planet polarity point, in that case sun polarity point in the 4th??? Is the way out? Kind of same situation when pluto is squaring the nodes?

Best wishes
Sunya


Rad

Hi Sunya,

When a planet that is squaring the Nodes, and the resolution Node is the S.Node conjunct Pluto, the Soul must recover the implied skipped steps via that S.Node/ Pluto conjunction, and all the planets that are makign aspects to it. The PPP, because of the Pluto/S.Node conjunction, unless otherwise indicated, in not developed until the 2nd Saturn return. So the entire resolution takes place via that house/ sign of that Pluto/South Node conjunction relative to the location of the planetary ruler of that South Node: it's own house, sign, and aspects to it.

In your example the Sun, when squaring the Nodes, does not apply to past life skipped steps. It does correlate to the symbolized skipped steps that could take place in the context of the current life. So what you presented as possible ways of manifesting is correct but from the point of view of the current life.

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And another question what is the role of the planet polarity point, in that case sun polarity point in the 4th??? Is the way out? Kind of same situation when pluto is squaring the nodes?"

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The way out is the in context of the current life, remembering the current life Sun is how any Soul integrates and gives purpose, creative actualization, of the entire life starting with the entire EA paradigm. So with the polarity of the Sun being in the 4th that starts with developing an inner reality that is secure within itself in every way.

God Bless, Rad

Sunya

Thanks Rad!

In your example the Sun, when squaring the Nodes, does not apply to past life skipped steps. It does correlate to the symbolized skipped steps that could take place in the context of the current life. So what you presented as possible ways of manifesting is correct but from the point of view of the current life.



So that's mean that when is the sun involved in squaring the Nodes all the skipped steps process is relative only to. This life or only the sun? I mean is the back and forth in the nodes also happening only in this life?  Or is the sun arquetype in relation to this life only, but the back and forth in the nodes from previous lifes also?

Rad

Hi Sunya,

The Sun squaring the Nodes correlates to the possibility of creating skipped steps in the current life only. In the example you used with Pluto conjuncting the S.Node the Soul could try focusing on the PPP entirely for example versus the evolutionary and karmic need to relive the prior life conditions as symbolized in the Pluto/South Node conjunction. If so, then skipped step would occur.

God Bless, Rad

Sunya

Thank you Rad!

When pluto is not exactly in conjunction, but still is in the same house of the south node, something like maybe 12 or 13 degrees, we apply it in the same way?

Rad

Hi Sunya,

No. The Pluto/ S.Node conjunction mandates the relive scenarios so without that conjunction those mandated relives do not take place. If those degrees, 12, 13, 14 are before the conjunction, balsamic, it could very well mean that the Soul is setting itself up for those mandated relives in  the next life. If those degrees are after the conjunction it would mean that the Soul has successfully evolved so that any mandated relive has already taken place.

God Bless, Rad

Sunya

Thanks Rad!

So how the Soul should navigate it when there is not a conjuction? Where to apply the emphasis or where to start? in the arquetipe of the house where the integration node and natal pluto is, or in the opposite house where the other  node and ppp is?

Rad

Hi Sunya,

The same as the skipped steps signature ... the Node that last applied to the planet squaring the Nodes in the integration node for those skipped steps. At the same time Pluto's polarity point in the 1st house is evolved towards which then allows that natal 7th house Pluto to evolve as well. So the recovery of the skipped steps occurs in the 7th House, as a point of consistent integration, while the same time the evolution of the 7th house Pluto is taking place.

God Bless, Rad

Sunya

Thanks Rad!!

So if I understand it correctly, it's a situation when the Soul has to work in the arquetypes of the seventh and the first house at the same time?

And another question... The limit for the conjunction is 10 degrees before and 10 degrees after?

And relative to:

And another question what is the role of the planet polarity point, in that case sun polarity point in the 4th??? Is the way out? Kind of same situation when pluto is squaring the nodes?"

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The way out is the in context of the current life, remembering the current life Sun is how any Soul integrates and gives purpose, creative actualization, of the entire life starting with the entire EA paradigm. So with the polarity of the Sun being in the 4th that starts with developing an inner reality that is secure within itself in every way.


In integrating the skipped step we start always with the polarity point of the planet, and not the natal? So is the skipped step relative to the natal or relative to the polarity?
So in that case is the Soul potentially skipping cancer or capricorn or both ? In the case is skipping both which one choose to start with or make emphasis on?


If we switch the sun to 4th house being the polarity in the 10th, we should start by creating a secure outer reality??

Happy Christmas!
Sunya

Rad

Hi Sunya,

The resolution of a skipped step, as taught and stated on the mb many times, taught by JWG, is the node that last formed a conjunction with the planet squaring the lunar nodes. In the example you have been using, again, that would be the S.Node in the 7th House. Skipped steps means, again, that both the houses where the Lunar Nodes are relative to the planet squaring them, has been partially developed or actualized prior to the current life: the flip flopping, back and forth that created the skipped steps in the first place. So in the example the S.Node in the 7th becomes the node to consistently integrate through: the 1st house is actualized but consistently within the context of the 7th House.

With the natal Pluto in that 7th House the PPP is the 1st. That polarity point will be developed by the Soul yet integrated within the 7th House Pluto: this then creates a evolution of that 7th House Pluto relative to the development of the PPP in the 1st house.

The polarity point of the Sun evolves in the same way: the polarity point is integrated in the context of the natal house that it is within which allows for the ongoing evolution of how the Soul integrates and gives purpose the entire life starting with the core evolutionary dynamics as symbolized in the EA paradigm. 

God Bless, Rad

Sunya