Uranus, the individuated state, the internet & collective consciousness

[Nerissa]

I guess the subject line sums it up!

Does the rise of the internet correlate to a larger collective movement within human consciousness?

There is so much that is pure information and that is also utterly false, but very anti-establishment - so would feed into the individuated state...
Seems internet-landia is fodder for the individuated state...not to say it isn't for all souls...it's just it seems like it stands for this Uranian quality (which Uranus rules technology) - and Uranus can be all about liberating from false ideology, and yet the internet is a playground for precisely that!
It seems the individuated state is predominant culturally....even as the evolutionary state of most of humanity is just as JWG spoke of: most consensus

It's interesting...I am wondering if the rise of the internet, technology, etc. is also this movement collectively of consciousness itself - for better or worse. This Uranian information highway will affect collective consciousness - just wondering if and/or how, that fits into a larger scheme....?

And one, I'd say clearly, that isn't devoid of the influence of evil. It seems acutally, at this point in time, on all levels, it fuels evil. It doesn't have to - but the choices humans are making - reinforcing belief systems, conspiracy theories, etc - it has become very easy to pick & choose: and most humans choose to feel safe, secure etc - or to feel 'liberated' or 'victimized' by powers beyond their control - that they saw on youtube etc that keeps them in the precise states they wish to free from

So, it's odd: this Uranus/tech thing....is this the leap of consciousness so many have hearalded for so long...? The Aquarian age?
Seems likely, if, as with all it seems: double edged sword

Thanks!!!

I am editing to answer my own question a bit: each soul will use the internet within their own state of evolution and capacity
It does seem it suits the anti-establishment individuated state very well: however, it also leads them into realms of evil and confusion and nonsense...precisely what they are trying to avoid: they follow 'new preachers' so to speak, then have the same disillusionment

However: it's like the Uranian quality is now the 'norm' versus the exception, if that makes sense, due to the internet....and I wonder if that's the prophetic idea with regard to the Aquarian age - maybe the 'individuated' state will be moved into more rapidly than before - and much greater conflict, and craziness - and sadly, delusion and illusion - the experiment and bubble to burst very collectively...?

[LittleAprilShower]

Hi Nerissa,

I have been pondering similar things for a while now as well.

In regards to my own experiences, when I initially came across JWG's teachings about the evolutionary states, I found it particularly difficult especially within my own generation (Pluto Scorpio) to try to figure out and define exactly what constituted the consensus and individuated and the perceivable differences between the two, because it seems as if the vast majority are actually individuated rather than consensus.

When I was in high school studying English language a topic we covered was about "prestige" as it relates to language and the use of language through slang, colloquialisms, prescriptive vs descriptive language, and how prestige changes over time.

If I am not incorrect, I feel a large motivation within the consensus stage of evolution is prestige: of norms, customs, value and belief systems.  And within this the individual relationship and level of security associated with adhering to the apparent prestige within one's particular culture and lifestyles.

Due to the inherent ability, capacity or allowance for individuals in various parts of the world now to be able to freely pursue and express a more pronounced and personal sense of individuality, it has now in itself become become a cultural prestige to do so.

The underlying difference between the cultural prestige associated with expression and pursuit of individuality in the consensus state versus expression and pursuit of individuality within the individuated state would be centre of gravity from which the motivation stems from:  expressing one's unique individuality because of its apparent prestigiousness according to the overarching status quo and the associated security derived from its pursuit to the ego, or a more deeply motivated need to actually define oneself from within and without any definition derived from or imposed upon by any external overarching status quo, to liberate from limitations and crystallisation within consciousness inhibiting the ongoing evolution and progressive movement of the centre of gravity within consciousness from the ego to the soul.

In saying this, and again from my own experiences with trying to make these discernments, it almost appears to me that perhaps truly individuated individuals rather than consensus individuals expressing their individuality, would actually be maintaining some value systems from the past that although may be perceived to be conservative/traditional in nature to the current social and cultural climate, there is an underlyingly deeper appreciation of these values and why it is potentially important for humanity during this point in time to maintain them.  This I think is a reminiscent point of the Uranus/Neptune Capricorn conjunction.

[Nerissa]

thank you so much Little April Shower

will ponder more your thoughts....it's all...well: it's transformative & a cusp

my thoughts were all over

later realized: just wondering how technology would affect the process of evolution within humans...gee, could have just asked that!

It's a new fangled thing....or is it?  Just, perhaps, trussed up a bit differently...like that turkey tomorrow

Need to ponder your thoughts deeper. Thank you...

What, I'm seeing, is this 'belief' issue - an infestation: the opposite of actual reality.
Reality is not a belief system.....

Truth exists: beliefs be darned

believe what you wish: doesn't make it true

however: what do you actually experience: that's real, of course, relatively!  But it's a starting point

After I posted: realized my thoughts all over.....but then, does seem like technology has some greater point, reason, purpose: is it to more quickly evolve the human soul???

[Nerissa]

one thing I'd like to understand is how the evolutionary states would look outside a patriarchal paradigm and/or distorted reality...?

I cannot remember how it used to be

[LittleAprilShower]

but then, does seem like technology has some greater point, reason, purpose: is it to more quickly evolve the human soul???

Just some thoughts, not necessarily true or correct:  

Maybe technology is a manifestation of man's need to attain a sense of supremacy over the world within which we all find ourselves in as reflected by Pluto, Saturn and Jupiter's SN all in Capricorn.

This need in itself is a symptom of humans developing a particular level of objectivity in consciousness that thus endowed us all with an ego, which itself is a formulation and interfacing between the intellectual faculties of the human brain and personal emotional reactions and responses to the immediate environment - 3rd and 4th houses, IC.

Rather than humans remaining primal and otherwise subconscious -  instinctive - in their reactions or responses to the immediate environment, the development of objectification within consciousness and therefore the ego, has resulted in humans relying on other capacities and abilities to survive rather than pure instincts and physical capabilities.

These other capacities and abilities stemming from the 3rd house (intellect) and 4th house (emotions, capacity for love and foundation for social relationship) are the causative factors to humans then becoming dependant upon their interpersonal relationships with one another to survive, but also that their interpersonal relationships and by extension life itself, conform to an array of belief systems and social structures (9th and 10th house oppositions, as manifestation of evolutionary intention/necessity of the 3rd/4th houses) that are conforming, consistent but also inherently limiting in nature in order for the egocentric insecurity of experiencing the chaos and unpredictability of life to become minimised as much as possible.

[Nerissa]

Wow, littleaprilshower - your language & expression is extremely intense & condensed - like an abstract from some scientific or psychological treatise!!
And I mean that in a very good & laudatory way - (Mercury/Pluto 6th trining Mars Gemini & a virgo sun etc, so I enjoy that!)

I'm seeing the positive side of a Uranian epoch (though the yugas are different: cannot recall off the top of my head, but it's ascending) - would be the knowledge & technology & capacity for objectivity in addressing any issues...that square to Taurus: survival.....

We already have those technologies in reality to rescue the earth - IF we survive, then they'll be implemented.....

BUT: the human....all possibilities will be explored: and a Uranian epoch: heck yeah it will!  Crazy times for sure.....but 'good'?  Who determines what is 'good' or isn't 'good'.?- if all is Source, then it's Source's will, right? Which I suppose means our will...right?!  Eh

Hmmm. Now, I'll admit, I am not happy about the cyborg stuff: taking the human even further out of nature - and yet: this just might allow nature to heal

Aquarian dark side, as I understand, as an archetype: can have it's dark side as being incredibly sadistic. Maybe this sadism will be isolated to the human.

Thank you for your insights! Really, need to sift through slowly, such language you use. I used to read scientific papers for "physics review' etc because I just like the poetry!