Pluto in the 4th - Composite

[Ju]

Hello,

I apologise if im not supposed to ask for chart insights here. Im in a long term relationship with this person and we have a child together. Im waiting for my copy of PLUTO vol 2 to arrive...

I would really appreciate any insight into this composite chart.. I can say that this relationship feels deeply karmic, he is from the other side of the world and we met in Nepal. I really want to see if I can make it work, its feeling impossible. I sense its something to do with Pluto conjunct south node in the 4th..

Chart is attached.

Again I apologise if im in the wrong place!

Thankyou,
Ju

[Rad]

Hi Ju,

One of the rules on our message board is not to do personal charts. This is stated under the thread on the top of the first page where is says 'if this is your first visit' to the message board.

And remember too that composite charts can only be rightly understood relative to a understanding of each person's natal charts, the EA paradigm in each, then the synastry charts between the two people, and that then allows for an understanding, context, of the composite chart between two people.

I am, however, posting for you a general statement about 4th House composite Pluto's that comes from JWG's second volume of Pluto, the Relationship book, and the big new book called Evolutionary Astrology.

God Bless, Rad

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                                 PLUTO IN THE 4TH HOUSE OR CANCER

Composite Pluto in the Fourth House or Cancer will correlate to a couple who has had a mutual desire to create a tightly structured reality through which to feel safe and secure. These types of desires are a reaction to prior lifetimes in which various kinds of circumstances or interpersonal dynamics have occurred which caused great emotional upheavals. This would include separation from one another, either through forces that were beyond their control, or because of problems between them that lead to the necessity of separation, even though neither one really wanted to separate. The specific causes leading to separation can be determined in each case by examining the conditions symbolized by the house and sign of the composite Pluto, stressful aspects that it may be making to other planets and the houses and signs of those planets, the location of the South Node by house and sign, and the placement of its planetary ruler by house and sign. Examine closely the stressful aspects that the South Node is making to other planets, and the stressful aspects that its planetary ruler is making to other planets.

Whatever the conditions may be, a couple with a composite Pluto in the Fourth House or Cancer will be deeply insecure because of the separations in prior lifetimes. There can be an intense fear of being threatened by external forces, or of suddenly being left by the partner. This fear, and the reaction to it, has been a causal factor in creating different situations within the relationship, and reactions to the external environment. Within the most recent of past lifetimes, the reaction to those separations has been to secure the relationship. For example, within the relationship one may have attempted to emotionally control and manipulate the other. The forms of such control and manipulation can range from creating emotional and psychological conditions wherein one is made to feel absolutely dependent on the other, to creating conditions of psychological and emotional terror and fear wherein one or the other is afraid to leave, to creating a mutual situation wherein each compulsively focuses on the existing emotional wounds of the other in such a way as to create a de-facto parental dynamic, to a situation in which each alternates between the roles of helper and helped. This effectively maintains not only mutual dependency, but also the wounds which neither one really wants to heal. Either partner could also use emotional withdrawal as a way of inducing insecurity in the other in order to emotionally manipulate them into meeting their needs.

The reaction to the external environment, relative to this underlying insecurity, has been to close off the relationship as much as possible from the impact of anyone, or anything, that could pose any potential threat. In combination, these reactions within the relationship and to the external environment have produced a situation of intense psychological and emotional proximity to one another. The intensity of proximity has created a high degree of emotional compression within the relationship. This emotional compression has produced cycles of silent internalization together, and cycles of emotional interaction that can range from total togetherness to total emotional explosions of a confrontational nature. Excessive proximity has created psychological and emotional distortions, and a lack of "breathing room."

As a result, each can harbor anger relative to the feeling of being restricted in their personal development. Each can blame the other without ever realizing that both have had a simultaneous need to keep the relationship close and proximate, but also to step outside the relationship in order to engage in independent activity. These dual desires or needs have created an emotional paradox within the relationship. Without realizing that this paradox originates from within, each partner blames the other for their own feelings of being contained and restricted.

The inherent danger with composite Pluto in the Fourth House or Cancer is one wherein the couple keeps re-creating conditions that are echoes, remnants, and reflections of other lifetimes in which the separations took place. The fear of separation can be so strong, and the issues in past lifetimes so unresolved, that the couple keeps unconsciously projecting those conditions into the current life. In this way, forever living in the past, they effectively keep re-creating the very conditions that produced the fears of loss in the first place. Thus, the relationship cannot ever feel secure and safe. Even during the cycles in which the relationship does feel close, safe, and secure, the unconscious fear that this condition may end creates conditions that lead to intense insecurity. This syndrome represents the ever-shifting rug under the feet of the relationship, so to speak.

Amazingly enough, these ever-shifting emotional cycles are intentional from an evolutionary point of view. The evolutionary intention symbolized by Pluto in the composite Fourth House or Cancer is for the couple to penetrate together to the very causes of their different emotional dynamics and states, both as a couple and as individuals. This correlates to their desire for self-knowledge at an emotional level and for the knowledge of the emotional basis of their fears for the relationship. The key is to create a conscious intention to focus on the causes for the different emotional states or dynamics, and not to become simply become engulfed and lost in those emotions. The additional challenge contained in composite Pluto in the Fourth House or Cancer has been for each of them to create conditions of developing a state of inner security with each other as individuals. This intention can be very hard to consciously understand, because most people on Earth generally project their security needs outside of themselves, forming dependencies of all kinds. Yet until such a couple grasps and understands this intention, the projection on one another to get their security needs met will persist in the ways that we have been discussing.

The intention to penetrate to the causes of the different emotional states that manifest individually and within the relationship can cause either or both to take the role of a psychological interrogator. The person in this role will attempt to penetrate and demand explanations for whatever the other has or has not done-"Why did you do this, why did you do that, what was the reason for this or that, what were your motives or intentions for this or that," and so on. This can create a situation wherein the interrogated partner feels like they are being emotionally and psychologically raped. What motivates this type of behavior is the fear of emotional dishonesty, the fear of trust, and the need to be the "one and only" to the other-the most important person ever in the other's life.

Pluto in the composite Fourth House or Cancer can also correlate to a couple who, in evolutionary terms, has just recently switched gender roles. Previously, the man had been the woman and the woman had been the man. This can create its own unique set of emotional and psychological dynamics. Since the woman had been the man, and the man had been the woman, each of them will have memories to this effect at a subconscious level. As a result, both of them can psychologically and emotionally operate within those old gender roles. The man will be essentially operating through the female emotional psychology, and the woman through the male emotional psychology. When this is the observed situation, the evolutionary reason is to evolve the relationship forward, since they had reached an evolutionary limit to further growth in the old roles. In addition, it will correlate to the evolutionary need in each of them as individuals, and through the relationship dynamics, to begin the process of consciously integrating the inner female and male into a state of equal balance and actualization. Negatively, this switching can produce all kinds of emotional and psychological power plays involving who is going to control who, and/or who is going to be the "boss" within the relationship. It can also create a profound confusion with respect to the roles of giving and receiving.

In the Consensus state, this placement will correlate to a couple that has desired to secure the relationship through the creation of home and family in the most recent of prior lifetimes. The intention to do so will occur on contact with one another as a reaction to their subconscious memories of separation that preceded the most recent lifetimes together. All too often, such a couple experiences a high degree of interference from one or both sets of parents, who issue one judgment after another toward the relationship, and toward each individual person. Such parents are also highly insecure, and the compensation for this insecurity is to try and control the two people and their relationship through the use of negative and critical judgments. The unconscious motivation in this has been to try and drive a wedge between the two so as to maintain a primary orientation to the parents. By allowing this wedge to occur, each partner would have become progressively isolated from the other on an emotional and psychological basis. Over time, this isolation would become the causal factor generating separation.

Thus, the most recent reaction to this has been to secure the relationship through the creation of home and family, so that the symbolic nature of home and family equaled permanency, consistency, and continuity. Yet each will have subconscious memories of not being understood by the other because of projections that each made on the other that were extensions of the judgments of the parents. These memories can create an unconscious fear of the same thing happening again, which, in turn, can lead to the effect of emotionally hiding from one another even though they feel intensely drawn and attracted. When this occurs, they will then relate emotionally to each through their own children, instead of directly interfacing with one another. The displaced anger from other lifetimes can then be triggered relative to how the children should or should not be raised, or other parental disagreements which are used as a vehicle to work out the unresolved emotions with one another. Some in this condition will resist having children together because of the nature of their own childhoods.

For a couple in the Consensus state, the roles within the relationship will be more or less fixed because of the nature of current cultural conditioning. The man will be the man, and the woman will be the woman, as defined by the prevailing social norms. This creates additional isolation, because they are not allowed to go beyond the boundaries of the roles. These sexually stereotyped roles can also be used to hide behind. It is essential that this type of couple learn how to create situations wherein they can relate to each other openly on a one-to-one basis, and in so doing relate a pure expression of the emotional dynamics that each needs to openly discuss with one another. They must learn how to confess to one another their deepest fears, feelings, needs, desires, and the causes of their anger toward one another without fearing more negative judgment. This results in emotional and psychological self-knowledge of each other, and thus creates the awareness of the dynamics within their relationship as a result. In the last analysis, this is the actual intention for the relationship, and the reason they came together in the first place.

Sexually, this placement will correlate to a couple who has been, and will be, quite conventional in their sexual relationship, allowing the nature of their sexual relations to be defined by the society that they are in. This can also be a situation wherein they stop being sexual with one another at a certain point within the relationship-usually when the last child has been born. This is a reaction to emotional isolation, if each feels that their emotional and psychological needs are not being fulfilled through the other. In the worst of cases, this can correlate to one or the other (usually the man) using sex as a form of acting out rage and anger. Thus, sexual power is used to humiliate, subjugate, or actually hurt the partner.

In the Individuated state, this placement will correlate to a couple who has had an intense desire to merge on an emotional and psychological level, as a reaction to the subconscious memories of separation in other lifetimes. The desire to merge in this way is a reaction to the fears of separation, and will lead into an almost total need to "hang on" to one another at all times. The intensity of proximity that this produces induces incredibly intense emotional dynamics to occur between them in which each can feel as if they are being swallowed up by one another. Confrontations occur at key and regular intervals as a result, and in time produce an intense degree of personal knowledge. Both will have a keen interest in psychological knowledge of a humanistic (as opposed to clinical or behavioral) nature. As a result, there is a deep temptation to psychoanalyze each other to tears.

All too often, the nature of this analysis reflects the projections of their own unresolved emotional dynamics as individuals. They will project judgments about each other's intentions, motivations, desires, and agendas. Back and forth the projections fly until each individual begins to own and take responsibility for their own reality. Because of being in the individuated state, the nature of which is to rebel against external authority in order to individualize from the consensus, the causes of separation in other lifetimes is typically based on the rebellion that occurred when one attempted to overly control or manipulate the individual development and needs of the other. This creates the subconscious memory or feeling in which each will feel that they have been abandoned by the other. The problem was never one at a Soul level, because the Souls loved each other dearly, and want to be together. The problem was the inability to accept individual differences at a personality level, since those differences were perceived as threatening to the relationship. This was the basis of the need to control or manipulate, judge, or put down the individual needs of each. These memories only fuel and intensify the mutual projections, as well as fueling the need to merge as a safeguard against another separation.

In this evolutionary condition, each will have to be born into families in which neither one was understood or nurtured by their parents. As a result, each will have feelings of being rejected or disdained by their parents in some way. These displaced emotions of childhood become "acted out" via yet more projections onto the partner. In the individuated state, there will still be a strong need to "nest"-to create a home and family. Yet, because of the individuated state, they will desire to raise their children in exactly the opposite way that they themselves were raised. They will be totally emotionally present and available to their children, and encourage the actualization of the individuality that is inherent to each. In this way, they will subconsciously heal their own childhoods by raising their children in the ways that they wanted to be raised. This is a good thing, and will actually have a maturing effect in their own emotional and psychological interactions over time. The couple will rebel against traditional roles of gender assignment, and will more or less attempt to raise their children equally through role interchangeability. They will be fiercely protective of not only their children, but of the relationship itself. Not too many others will actually know what is taking place within the inner sanctum of their relationship.

Sexually, this placement can correlate to a couple who uses sex as a form of emotional control, and as a way of expressing unresolved anger. On the other hand, there is such a strong desire to merge emotionally and psychologically that the sexual union that does occur will be very intense-the sexual energy will be intensified through and because of the emotional energy. Many will have the subconscious desire to be in the other person, so to speak, as is they can never be close enough. This desire reflects the need in each to "return to the womb"-the source of maximum security and safety. There will be a rebellion against the sexual conventions of the current culture, and a desire and need to experiment with different ways of being sexual. For many, there will be a deep fascination and/or attraction to anal sex and oral sex. There is also a deep need to be held and touched, and to sleep together in ways that the bodies are always entwined in some way. Massage, including sexual massage, are strong needs in each because both will have needs for sexual healing in some way. Coming together sexually serves as a vehicle for emotional and Soul renewal. Some will use sexuality as a way of healing the emotional rifts and difficulties that occur.

In the Spiritual state, this placement will typically correlate to a couple that has unresolved emotional dynamics as individuals, and together. For any of us to move toward spiritual life and reality, we must undergo a progressive surfacing of all the impurities within us. Thus, in this condition such a couple will necessarily have a surfacing of all the unresolved emotions. This can create real turmoil for each of them, and for their relationship. This turmoil is caused by cycles in which their life together, and as individuals, seems very calm, peaceful, harmonious, and spiritualized. Then comes the cycle in which the unresolved emotions surface in varying degrees of intensity.

These emotions are caused by deep insecurities in each of them, and between them. In evolutionary terms, they are in the process of progressively disengaging from all external dependencies, including their mutual dependency on one another. This can create fear in each at various points because of the emotional fear that "they don't need me anymore." The cyclic surfacing of these emotions can overwhelm and pollute the emotional, psychological, and spiritual atmosphere of good feelings between the two. The surfacing and projection of these emotional fears and insecurities will be quite childlike in essence. The challenge and the key for such a couple is to interpret correctly why this is occurring, and to realize that this is a natural consequence in spiritual development.

Maintaining this perspective will allow them to not take that which is projected too personally. Responding in this way will allow for a progressive working through and resolution of these unresolved emotions. The worst that could happen is for one or the other or both to feel that these emotional projections are undermining their spiritual growth. This will lead to polarization, and possible separation. This can occur when one or the other fails to understand that these emotions must surface as a consequence of spiritual development. In essence, these emotions surface because there is a transference between the external home and the inner home of God.

The highest level of this stage of evolution will reflect a couple that has desired to create security together through a common commitment to the "inner home"-a commitment to God. As a result, the very structure through which they actualize and establish their relationship will be a total structure of reality that is defined by their mutual commitment to God and spiritual living. They have learned as a reaction to memories of separation that the only real security, that which cannot be taken away, is that which is found within. As such, they have learned to trust God as the ultimate parent, a parent who is ever loving and providing for what they need. Trusting this, the intensity based in the fear of separation has now almost totally dissolved. Inwardly, their desire to be together is beyond question. Yet if this does come about, they know that it is only a physical separation, not a separation of their Soul or spirit.

In evolutionary terms, this placement will correlate to a couple who has been together a long time, and has experienced a tremendous amount of life experience together-they have been through a lot. As a result, they will have a deep degree of emotional wisdom together, and as individuals. They will have a deep degree of "knowingness" of one another, and because of this they will exhibit an unconditional acceptance and love of one another. They will be simultaneously male and female together, the relationship evolving into a natural state of androgyny. Even when residual emotions linked with insecurity or fear do surface (which they can even in this state), they will have a way of gently letting such emotions move through one another while at the same time sustaining the spiritual and emotional awareness and understanding which allows for resolution of whatever the specific emotion is.

Spiritually, they will both be attracted to emotional forms of spirituality that are experiential and provable. In this condition, there will still be a need to isolate the relationship from the undue impact of the external environment. This, again, is a reaction to the separations that have occurred in other lifetimes. Thus, even though they manifest the understanding that God is in control of their lives, and that they cannot really be separated anyway, the desire to be together in flesh and blood leads to this desire to isolate the relationship as much as possible anyway. Some will have families, and some will not. For those that do, they will raise their children in a spiritual atmosphere, yet allow for the independent development of each child according to the individual needs and realities of each. The love will be constant and unconditional no matter what occurs in their children's life.

Sexually, some such couples will desire to make love to each other's Souls and, through extension, to God. Others will have no need to have sex at all, or quite irregularly. The primary orientation will be to touching and holding, and allowing the sexual act to be very gentle, yet deep. Eye contact will be constant and sustained.

Polarity Point in the 10th House or Capricorn

The archetypal themes that correlate to the evolutionary intention symbolized in Pluto's polarity point of the Tenth House or Capricorn are linked with the need for the couple to emotionally mature together, and as individuals. Within this intention, the evolutionary need is for each of them to accept responsibility for their own actions, and to learn how to be responsible to one another-to own their emotional dynamics versus compulsively projecting onto one another. Within this, there is a need for each of them to become emotionally secure from within themselves, and on their own terms.

Additionally, it is vital that they only allow other people, including parents, into their lives who are supportive and accepting. In the case of parents who cannot or will not he, then this requires a total cutting off of that relationship. In time, the parents, in most cases, will become responsible for their own actions, which will then allow for significant change in how they are interacting with the couple. In this way, they will learn to open the doors of their relationship, instead of keeping the doors shut because of a fear that others will interfere with and threaten the relationship.

For those in the highest spiritual condition, the only real adjustment necessary is to open up the relationship to other people whom the couple can directly benefit relative to their emotional, psychological, and spiritual wisdom. For those who are evolving toward that condition, it is vital to sustain an absolute determination to remain rooted in their spiritual life even as the impurities reflected in various emotions surface. It is essential that they realize that the impurities reflected in various emotions will and must surface.

It is essential that they realize that the relative lack of emotional caring and nurturing in their life was intended by their own Soul, so that the realization of what constitutes real nurturing that is everlasting could occur through connection to the Divine Source of nurturing and sustenance-God. Within these realizations, each partner can own their own state of being versus indulging the temptation to project onto the other the reasons for their deep insecurities.