Skipped Steps

[Rad]

Hi Upasika,

We would all benefit from your post, so will wait.

God Bless, Rad

[Upasika]

Hi Rad and everyone,

Thanks very much for waiting...

Well, I'm blown away! It took a very long time to read through in detail and depth everything everyone has written on the synastry and composite of Shaw & Chloe. Such a lot of information, so many layers of it, and it seems to me every relevant factor and item has been well and truly covered. I cannot add anything new to what has already been laid out by Rad and everyone else, it's already a great deal of pretty amazing material and very complete. But I did want to write something, as I feel learning about skipped steps is a vital part of our EA toolbox. So I think the best thing I can do is try and summarize some itemized steps that can be used to start off any relational and skipped steps delineation, combined with a few comments on various things. Please correct me if anything isn't correct.


[A] The first thing I'd like to summarize for both Shaw and Chloe is the process that each went through that led to their personal skipped steps eventuating. It has been an intense journey that they have been through, and are still on. However we need to remember that each soul has its own identity and its own unique journey away from, and then back to, the Source. So it's good to remember the earliest point in their evolution that we can, as this is the deep root of their respective individual journeys.

Starting with Shaw

Let's return to the deep past of his Pluto, shown by his SN Pluto in the 6th with its ruler, Saturn, in a balsamic conjunction to Mars in the 12th - which is also where the polarity point (PP) for the SN Pluto is. I  originally surmised that he would have learnt those 6th house lessons satisfactorily. Then seeing his SN Moon was ruled by Pluto itself, and with the SN Moon not introducing any additional factors to what was already involved via Pluto, it became clear that Shaw had become stuck at a soul level, and maybe been this way for some time. For this reason it's also good to revisit his SN Pluto situation.

Chiron and Juno in the 6th are conjunct that SN Pluto and the SN Saturn, in a waning sesquiquadrate to Jupiter in Virgo in the 2nd, as well as quincunx Venus in Gemini in the 12th.

In that signature we have lots of Taurus (2nd, Venus) plus Virgo (Virgo, quincunx) factors involved here. Also Virgo's PP is involved (12th house). Additionally the ruler of the SN Pluto and SN Saturn (Saturn), is in a balsamic conjunction to Mars in the SN Pluto PP house. Taurus and Virgo = survival and crisis, 12th = victim.

In this deeper look it seems Shaw's soul didn't do as well as it first appeared - there is a core wounding regarding the patriarchy/authority (Chiron in Capricorn, Mars conj the ruler, Saturn, in the 12th - persecution), probably stemming from relationship and survival crises (Chiron conjunct Juno, sesquiquadrate 2nd house planet, quincunx Venus) all stemming from the 6th house (crisis). This could be summed up as "his voice has not been heard" - whether it was a cry for help re survival, or trying to stand up for his rights, or defending his territory against invaders"¦ he has lost out, and his self-esteem has suffered badly as a result.

While this would have happened a great deal of time ago (re the SN Pluto and SN Saturn), it seems the resulting inferiority complex has never been resolved for Shaw, and his soul has now selected this as something to be addressed this lifetime. We can see additional indications of this inferiority complex, as Lucifer is very closely conjunct his North Node. Lucifer represents the temptation to succumb to evil intentions, and comes into play when the will to survive, to act in accordance with natural law, to be positive and a source of nourishment to oneself and others, is so broken that defeat and hopelessness take hold. Lucifer conjunct his NNode is in a critical place, because the NNode is so key to one's evolutionary and karmic progress.

Lucifer's placement indicates an inner sense of defeat may well have been present in Shaw for a long time. As the way we listen to ourselves creates our inner vibration, this then attracts to us situations and people accordingly. It seems that Shaw's true inner vibration in more recent past lives has been one of pessimism, self-doubt, lack of love, and a feeling of not being "good enough". And it's still there as an undercurrent in this life. However it's deeply personal and so he naturally he hides all this. But regardless he is potentially vulnerable to negative forces.

And it's highly likely he has been carrying this undercurrent ever since those lives represented by SN Pluto - it is a very old psychological complex. It is why in more recent past lives he has (still) been attracting fathers who paid him no attention (Saturn/Mars in the 12th), and it's why he has had such deep emotional issues for many lives now, showing through in this life with a Pluto/Moon conjunction, Mars in Cancer 12th, SN in Scorpio 4th, and Uranus conjunct Vesta in Pisces 8th.

So the most ancient issue is that his voice has not been heard, then that leading to lives of low self-esteem, which has then led to lives lacking in any love (fathers ignored him, mothers were always being replaced). Which has compounded as a deep feeling of impotence and being abandoned (SNode in 4th, Saturn & Mars in Cancer 12th - with Mars opposition to Pluto 5th conjunct Moon in Capricorn 6th). These factors often indicate emotional repression and/or difficulties, and because of the wider context here this is likely to be the case.

This has then led to him having lives of clinging to his siblings to get the love he needed, leading to co-dependent relationships with those siblings (Pluto 5th conjunct Moon, opposite Venus Gemini 12th).

This in turn has led to him having lives where intense and complex family situations arose (SNode Scorpio 4th), as all discussed by everyone previously. With very recently incest resulting in a baby, trying to hide this (Venus 12th, Uranus Pisces), feeling trauma and a fear of survival (Neptune Aquarius 7th, ruler Uranus opposite Jupiter 2nd), leading to murder of his sister and their baby - the potential for such violence is shown by Saturn conjunct Mars (compressed desire, entrapment) with Mars opposite Pluto (violence, rage). Obviously this is a massive coming to a head of so many past lives where his choices had not been healthy or good. This terrible act he committed was extremely humiliating, massively worsening the sense of being a failure, but also done in desperation and so leading to a desire to escape any further consequences in order to survive, but also to avoid the pain and hide from the natural guilt that inevitably follows such a transgression of natural law.

This therefore has resulted in a need to somehow "deal to" those feelings of being such a failure, of hopelessness - he has therefore been greatly reacting to them, and also hugely overcompensating against them (Pluto/Moon in Sagittarius, Jupiter trine NNode, and the ruler of the 9th house, Neptune, being a skipped step planet). This has resulted in the self-inflation (Pluto in 5th).

The final outcome has been that all these skipped steps have caught up with him and he has had no choice at a soul level but to turn and face the music. His skipped steps represented by Neptune in Aquarius in 7th involve having a god complex towards others, a distorted sense of everyone else, jealously towards others, and lacking in compassion for others - all because of having extremely low self-worth, and that itself made much worse by him not taking responsibility for his actions. Shaw's choices have finally caught up with him.

Let's now summarize how Chloe's skipped steps have arisen.

Chloe's SN Pluto is in the 6th house, with its ruler Saturn in Virgo 2nd also ruling and square to Pluto in Capricorn 5th. We know from this that right from the very beginning Chloe's issues were survival crises, and difficulty fitting into society (SN Pluto ruler Saturn in Virgo 2nd - opposite Uranus). And that Chloe's reaction to this was to turn to religion (Uranus conj Juno in Pisces 8th).

Her search for God back then led to lives of her idolising other people and groups more than anything else (Uranus's ruler is Neptune, in Aquarius 7th) and she morphed into a socialite (packed 7th). As a result her thinking became delusional (Neptune in Aquarius) and she decided fame would give her the same result as finding God (ie. help her survive and also fill the emptiness she felt within, Saturn in 2nd, Virgo on 2nd).

This then led onto lives where she worked on developing her innate talents towards that end - music, art etc (Saturn in 2nd, which is SN Pluto ruler, is itself ruled by Mercury which is in Libra - the arts), also in more recent lives, developing her intuition (SN quincunx Jupiter in Aquarius). This desire to be a socialite led to her becoming a "pleaser", basing her actions on other people's wants and not on her own needs (Moon in Aquarius 7th sesquiquadrate Saturn 2nd). This was the acceleration of what would become incredibly deepened 2nd house issues for her. It also led to the beginning of her self-inflation (Pluto 5th, Mars in Leo) as that went with her performing, and compensated for her increasing 2nd house deficient self-worth.

This however then led to lives where she really needed to recover her 2nd house functioning (listening to self, being self-sufficient etc), and as has been discussed she did this by being born to strong successful fathers who would ignore her except to intensely criticise and humiliate her, causing inner crisis as it affected how she listened to herself - inducing intense inner psychological emptiness and a sense of worthlessness (Saturn in Virgo 2nd square Pluto Capricorn 5th). So instead of healing her 2nd house issues it made them 10 times worse. Her egocentric reaction to what her soul kept creating in this regard (critical fathers) was to react by competing with those men, life after life. This is because she did actually become famous via her careers (Saturn in 2nd ruling SN Saturn in 6th, Pluto in 5th quincunx Mars in Leo 12th) with unique social roles (SNode ruler, Moon, in 7th conjunctions) which only increased the desire to compete. Also her self-inflation had greatly increased in the process, to the point where she got stuck in that pattern (due to that intense soul level KEY Rad talked about).

This eventually led to lives where she started to rebel against those fathers (Uranus opp Saturn), as her natural guilt for being that way built up (Moon NN and SNodes of Pluto and Saturn, all in Capricorn 6th, ruled by Saturn in Virgo 2nd). As that rebellion caused her to become less obsessed with her fathers it also prompted her increased interest in siblings (Uranus quintiles Mercury in 4th, and the ruler of Uranus, Neptune, trines Mercury - siblings).

More recently Chloe's soul also now needed deal to her very old and also multiplying skipped steps. These skipped steps represented by Venus in Libra 3rd and Mercury Libra 4th are family issues (SN in Cancer, Venus and Mercury in Libra in 3rd and 4th), expecting (Libra) to be validated (4th), recovering displaced emotions (Mars in 12th, Uranus in 8th) and recovering from extreme (Libra) denial of love she experienced - by learning emotional self-sufficiency (SN/NN in Cancer/Capricorn square Venus and the 4th house planets, which are all trine the 7th house stellium - the expectation that someone else will rescue her).

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While at a summary level like this these situations may not seem to be that dramatic or significant (more like small stories), we need to remember that this has all taken countless lives to unfold, and that the process of each soul's journey would actually have been excruciatingly slow and extremely painful in many of those lives.

The root issues may seem like nothing that startling or dramatic at the beginning - survival, fitting into society, and standing up for ones rights are common things many, many people experience all the time, and in that sense life hasn't changed much. But we can see here how important it is for all of us that we respond to life's challenges in the optimum way. The choices we make endlessly build upon each other, one after the other, life after life; and if we aren't careful and therefore consistently make non-optimal choices regarding some aspect of our functioning, eventually we can get trapped into a degenerate pathway that finally comes to a dead end, evolutionary-wise as far as that functioning is concerned.

While all the possible reasons for skipped steps are very varied and often complex and not always due to degeneration ... the functional degeneration described above will show up in an astrology chart as skipped step(s); and a Pluto skipped step generally indicates the degeneration has reached the level of the soul itself.


[B ] Looking at the past connection of these two individuals (Synastry)

(These are a subset of the rules in JWG Pluto book Vol II in chapter 2)

1. First thing is to look at the lunar SNodes and their rulers in each other's charts, their locations (sign and house) and any conjunctions as these indicate subconscious memories each has of the other.

For Shaw: Chloe's SN in Cancer (family/emotions/dependency) in his 12th house (helpless, persecuted - by him) conjunct his Ceres (mother/nurturing/extremely deep loss, maybe psychological or physical death) with the ruler of her SN, Moon, in Aquarius conjuncting her Jupiter, Chiron and Neptune all in his 7th house (a direct one-on-one relationship with possible images of "¦ mother/baby/beliefs/wounding/suffering/victim). There are other possibilities than these keywords but given both individuals have skipped steps, plus we do know a few things about their current relationship from their mother, these ones fit easily enough.

For Chloe: Shaw's SN in Scorpio (sex/merging/abandonment/secret) in her 4th house (family/emotions/dependency) with his SN ruler, Pluto, in Sagittarius in her 5th (power/psychological/intense/beliefs/homeless) via the 5th house purpose, drama and possible risk taking, conjunct her Ceres and Sun (extremely deep loss, maybe psychological or physical death/self/recognition).

2. Secondly, Pluto aspecting each other's personal planets (Moon/Mercury/Venus/Mars). These indicate soul (and therefore probably un/subconscious) connection points with the other person, who is likely to be much more aware of these energy flows and the resulting dynamics.

For Shaw: Chloe's Pluto is - conjunct his Moon (at a soul level, ie. unconsciously, merging into his emotional body), trine his Mercury (she deeply trusted what he said), opposite his Venus (compulsively on/off re listening to him then herself, love/hate attraction, manipulative), opposing his Mars (either deeply transformative, potentially highly sexual  -and/or- compulsively possessive and dominating, potentially violent).

For Chloe: Shaw's Pluto is - sextile her Moon (deeply in tune with her emotions), sesquiquadrate her Mars (either reluctant yielding, potentially sexual -or- wilful and resistant towards her, manipulative, potentially violent).

3. Thirdly, planets aspecting each other's nodal axis, SN ruler, or both. These show in what ways if any, and how, one person's journey and growth has been hindered or helped by the other person. Along with the Pluto aspects, these evolutionary/karmic interactions between the two people reveal the significant, ongoing life tale (whatever it may amount to) that they both as individuals have created with each other up to that point.

For Shaw: Chloe's planets aspecting his nodal axis are - Chloe's SN ruler (her Moon) is squaring Shaw's nodal axis. This is a major karmic link from the past, as both nodal axes are involved (one person's nodal point ruler aspecting the other's nodal axis). Squaring it means a full breaking away has happened - often abruptly, always disruptively, sometimes violently. This can be caused by any reason, including via influences or forces outside their relationship.

Mars, Jupiter and Chiron are also squaring it, showing that actually an instinctive and very big life-changing breakup happened. And because it's also a karmic event, the changes that breakup caused would always have extended beyond (small or far) the life in which it happened. Since it was a really big significant breakup, the changes will extend way beyond that life. A massive learning at a soul level for both, particularly Shaw, will have taken place, or still needs to take place.

Chloe's NN ruler (Saturn) is sesquiquadrate and novile Shaw's nodal axis (with both nodal axes involved -directly or via ruler- this is another karmic link). Waxing sesquiquadrate to Shaw's NN, Chloe has no doubt applied some or lots of personal pressure on him to take her with him on his journey.
 
Chloe's Ceres is also conjunct Shaw's SN. With her SN Mercury and SN Mars conjunct her Ceres, it is clear that in the past (denoted by the SNs) she has lost something very personal (personal planets) to do with nurturing mothering/child (Ceres) via ideas, communication, sibling etc (Mercury) & desires, action, sex or anger etc (Mars).

Her Venus, which is one of her skipped steps, is triseptile it (subtle, undeniable fatedness). Her Pallas is quincunx it (she has tried to project her family crisis onto his NN 10th house shoulders).

For Chloe, Shaw's planets aspecting her nodal axis are - Shaw's Moon is quincunx her SN in Cancer. This reflects the crisis they have both been through regarding mothering/baby/emotional/co-dependency factors). His Mercury is square her nodal axis - whatever he has communicated with her, it has involved or resulted in a complete breaking away (often abruptly, always disruptively, sometimes violently).

Shaw's NN ruler (Venus) is quincunx her NN.

Shaw's NN itself is in Taurus in his 10th house - it's here that he needs to develop the self-sufficiency he needs (Taurus) to take responsibility for his past actions that resulted in the Neptune in Aquarius 7th  skipped step (denial - Neptune- of the trauma -Aquarius- caused to others -7th).  Shaw's NN ruler (Venus) can potentially facilitate this to happen, but seeing it's in a quincunx to Chloe's NN in Capricorn 6th, looks like resistance to doing that has caused yet another crisis instead.

His Ceres in Cancer is conjunct her SN in Cancer 12th (family/mother/child loss) and both his Chiron and Juno in Capricorn are conjunct her NN in Capricorn 6th (his wounding and betrayal to her as the male figure).

Finally his Jupiter and Pallas are sesquiquadrate her NN.

4. Nodal axis to nodal axis aspects. This indicates that a karmic connection of some kind has developed at some point in the past based on the aspect and location (sign and house) of all the nodes. There is no direct nodal axis connection.

5. If any planet is conjunct the other's NN, its ruler or both, and this planet is also aspecting anything conjuncting the other's SN, there are unresolved conditions to resolve, issues/dynamics to complete or sort out with each other.

Shaw's Chiron conjuncts Chloe's NN and is opposite her Mars (which is conjunct her SN). Obviously there is a great deal of wounding from him to her (the murder etc.) that is unresolved.

6. One's NN ruler aspecting the other's SN ruler. Indicates karmic connections of a newly developed nature. Issues may exist but if they do they will be relatively new. Regardless, they will recreate the past situations/conditions so they can now re-establish this connection and move onwards, forward with it.

Shaw's NN ruler, Venus in his Gemini 12th, trines Chloe's SN ruler, Moon in her Aquarius 7th. She has projected onto him that he will be her saviour. He is learning to not get caught up in her displaced emotions.

Shaw's SN ruler, Pluto in Sagittarius 5th, squares Chloe's NN ruler, Saturn in Virgo 2nd.  Chloe's Saturn has in the past collapsed into his power and will, resulting in no survival for her at all. She will be hopefully learning to rely on him a lot less as she grows older.


[C] The Composite

Not much left to say....

The full 1st house which includes the Sun shows where a good deal of their collective energy needs to be focused - on independently actualizing their own selves, standing on their own feet. This may be a cause of conflict though until Shaw becomes more open-minded and responsible for his actions past and present, and Chloe becomes more reflective and much more self sufficient.

Another thing that struck me too is that Mars in Cancer in 12th (rules the 10th house of their shared responsibilities and is also the natural ruler of the 1st house) - the anger felt by them mutually - is opposite the Moon Mercury conjunction in Capricorn 6th. So it's in a key position regarding their past shared issue, yet being in the 12th prone to being suppressed.

Nevertheless Shaw is furious she followed him into the family he had started with his parents. His ongoing deep avoidance of his actions (his Mars conjunct Venus opposite his own Pluto, Moon conjunction) is based on hiding all evidence, even from himself (Saturn, ruler of his Chiron wound, is in the 12th), in order to guarantee that the natural guilt doesn't manifest.

Her turning up in the body in his world has turned that plan on its head. He is locked in, and will be naturally angry about that. That she compulsively invades his space worsens it for him. But anyway, he now has only two options.

Existentially, in this life, he has every right to be angry - she is overstepping his natural auric boundary, deserves to be pushed away. So he needs to know that, and not be completely denied his anger. It is a natural protective mechanism.

Option two however, is extending the horizons of his viewpoint to encompass the innate guilt he is repressing, or trying to repress; and admit to himself the deep sense of remorse he carries (Saturn in Cancer 12th sextile his NN in Taurus 10th (self-sufficient responsibility) which is in turn sesquiquadrate his Moon in Sagittarius in the 6th (humble inner resonance with the truth).

And forgo all anger as much as possible, until he can figure out why he feels as he does (so angry). In other words he will need to reconcile simultaneously the anger with the remorse. He needs to channel the angry energy into hard work (composite Mars opposite 6th house planets), and also analyse (6th again) what is underneath his anger, what the hurt or perceived hurt or violation actually is (Mercury conjunct Moon in 6th). Once he knows what the hurt is he can act independently of her by listening to himself, and taking responsibility for himself (composite Mars semi-sextile composite 1st house Venus/Saturn).

Currently Chloe may not be angry much. She's younger and also is infatuated with Shaw. But through his efforts to resist her, and her own evolutionary need to find her own self sufficiency, her own inner nourishment, that will possibly (and hopefully) lessen greatly over the years. And as it does, at some point when the psychological space between them has been created as a reality for her, that shared anger will possibly start to rise for her regarding the loss of the baby and her own life (in the composite chart Mars opposite the Moon - which is trine the SN/Ceres conjunction), her feeling betrayed (Jupiter in Scorpio square both Saturn/Venus and Neptune - these being opposite each other, plus the composite Chiron in Aquarius -trauma- in the 7th opposite composite Sun/Pallas in the first"¦), will awaken her sense of independent self and dignity (Sun/Pallas in the first in Leo).

And she has every right to be angry about Shaw's actions. He will only be able to rightfully request that she stops being angry to him once he takes full responsibility - acknowledges his actions (his past life murder manifesting as guilt, which makes him be nasty to her, but he wont be aware of the murder, rather its a case of taking responsibility for being nasty), and apologizes for those actions (that are symbolized by being nasty to her) every single time until he stops being nasty and unloving.

Unless he progresses to that attitude and behavior, if she is brought up emotionally healthily and helped to be truly independent, I would say anger in her will eventually grow stronger and stronger even if she doesn't know why. Although regardless of whether she knows why or not, she will subconsciously feel like directing it towards Shaw, and probably project it at him anyway.

And in the big picture, she needs this karmic re-balancing, and it may be unwise to ever shut this potential future anger down in her. Instead teaching her to know, monitor and channel her anger into a positive conscious expression would be better for all concerned. If Shaw refuses to address the composite 7th house wounding with her, she will may well need to express that composite Cancer anger, the anger of insecurity and vulnerability, to keep things in balance.

Whenever this composite Cancer anger is expressed by either of them, it will tune them back into their karmic relationship purpose (Mars trines NN/Uranus and sextiles the resolution SN/Ceres) - waking up (Uranus) to the deep, intense need to feel (8th) compassion (Uranus ruler, Neptune) for each other (in 7th), and reflecting on and analysing (Mercury ruler of resolution SN conjunct Moon in Capricorn) how to turn the tension and wounding (Chiron Aquarius, 7th) into co-operation and supportive independence (Chiron opposite Sun/Pallas in Leo 1st house - that opposition, along with the Mars oppositions from the 12th and the squares to the 5th house planets, causing the tension).  

By staying focused on this relationship purpose (composite Pluto in 5th) outlined above, they will be able to continue progressively resolving their past individual and relational issues, bit by bit (resolution SN ruler in 6th). Possibly they could be coached by their mother on how to use their composite anger - only when necessary, both naturally and judiciously, for the good of them both - keeping them both honest and on track with their mutual healing.

blessings Upasika

[Bhaskara]

Hi Everyone,

Upasika wow a lot of new detailed information to take in truly.. I did not see the placement of Lucifer in any of Shaw and Chloe's charts and no birth information was shown,  Am I missing something? I have been trying to add Lucifer when looking at charts...

Heather

[Upasika]

Hi Heather

Well its not so much new information as just summarizing what has already been revealed. For the synastry I just outlined the structure used in JWG Pluto II book using these charts as examples. But a little bit is new and is hopefully on track.

Re Lucifer - it just stuck out for me in Shaw's chart being so conjunct his NN. In Chloe's chart its at 0 Cancer in her 11th house, not so prominent at all.

I use Solar Fire and Lucifer is an asteroid that can be downloaded from astro.com and added into the SF asteroids and then shown as an extra ring point.

If you use Solar Fire 8 or 9 you can find out how to do all that in the Help - type asteroid into the Index, then select the first entry "accessing additional files". (Let me know if you need more assistance with that)

blessings Upasika

[Rad]

Hi Upasika,

Thank you for taking the time to share with us this comprehensive review of all the EA between Chloe and Show culminating in their composite chart. Your EA work is breathtaking, and allows all here to see and understand the utter depth of what EA is. All who read what you have shared Upasika will only grow within themselves because of this.

BRAVO !

God Bless, Rad

[Rad]

All,

For now I would like to suggest that we temporarily suspend our thread on skipped steps so that those of you who are in the relatively beginning level of learning EA can focus, now, on Deva Green's new thread on practicing EA charts. My thought is that if you shift your focus to that, for now, you will learn and ever deepening capacity for EA itself: it's foundations. In so doing, when we return to this thread in the future, you will be more able to understand the totality of the dynamics that correlate with the skipped steps signatures in birth charts.

So I am highly encouraging you to do just that. We will pick this thread up again down the line.

God Bless, Rad

[dollydaydream]

Upasika, thanks for your analysis of Chloe's and Shaw's chart, and the dynamics between them.   I appreciate you breaking down the steps in the way that you did.  I am still reading through it and following with their charts.  I have a question, and I am sure I will have more later.  When analyzing Shaw's chart, at the beginning you said "the SN Moon not introducing any additional factors to what was already involved via Pluto", - can you please clarify?  Thanks!  DDD

[dollydaydream]

Rad, I am on board with your decision to delay the skipped steps thread.  As a newbie myself, I feel I can benefit from Deva's practice thread.  Thanks.  DDD

[Bhaskara]

Hi Everyone,

Yes I am focusing on Deva's practice thread and praying every night to Mother to come to me and teach me in my Dreams...

Heather

[Upasika]

Hi DDD

Sure, I'm a bit tied up for a day or so though, but then I'll come back here and go over that with you.

blessings Upasika

[dollydaydream]

Upasika, thanks!  No hurry, I have plenty of other stuff to work on.  DDD

[Tashi]

Wow, Upasika, Rad is right, my soul is soaking up your depth and capacity for integrating all the EA in these charts.  I will re read this many times, as it has that enlightening energetic that the truth always has.  Thanks so much for this truly helpful and detailed approach. 
Thanks again of course to Rad, it is always humbling to realize how much more there is to learn, and I am so happy to have found the message board after all these years.  Back to stay.

I will find Deva's thread and follow along.  Also, I was so hopeful to hear your perspective on Trump and Putin.  Is that still on, or is that part of the skipping skipped steps comments?  Probably it is....

Well I am grateful to be able to re read this entire thread and soak up and apply all the things there are to learn here in.

Thanks Kristen and Rad for the insights and teachings you have shared.
Gratefully, and always in square one... Tashi

[Rad]

Hi Tashi,

Right now we will be suspending this thread because I am hoping those that are relative beginners will join in on Deva's thread so that this will lead to more of a comprehensive understanding of EA: the building blocks of the EA paradigm.

At a certain point I would like to resume this thread and pick up with the skipped step signature of Putin's chart. He obviously will continue to be a great menace to our planet, so to understand his Soul signature in this way, his skipped steps, may prove to be quite educational for us all.

God Bless, Rad

[Kristin]

Greetings Upasika,

Such a thorough and detailed summary offered here on Shaw and Chloe, thank you for this gift you offer others as a powerful teaching tool ~ invaluable.

While I felt the whole thing was excellent there were a few things that really stood out for me:

I loved your approach of tracking their Souls journey from the beginning, the Sn of Pluto, the root of their essence.

Also how you included the temptations of Lucifer on Shaw's NN linked with his inferiority complex and those vulnerable cracks in his psyche where the shadow festers.

I also really loved how you discussed Shaw having 2 options in the end..
this was excellent
Nevertheless Shaw is furious she followed him into the family he had started with his parents. His ongoing deep avoidance of his actions (his Mars conjunct Venus opposite his own Pluto, Moon conjunction) is based on hiding all evidence, even from himself (Saturn, ruler of his Chiron wound, is in the 12th), in order to guarantee that the natural guilt doesn't manifest.

Her turning up in the body in his world has turned that plan on its head. He is locked in, and will be naturally angry about that. That she compulsively invades his space worsens it for him. But anyway, he now has only two options.

Impressive depth and detail Upasika..
Namaste,
Kristin

[Helena]

Hi Rad and Upasika,

i'm still going through Upasika's composite post, and as usual the insight and Upakisa's capacity to create this amazing flow of knowledge tends to leave my brain in some sort of dance, literally, that i've now identified more like brain tai chi  Thank you!

And Rad, also thank you, i will follow along when you feel it is time to continue.

Best,
Helena