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Skipped Steps

Started by Rad, Sep 03, 2016, 05:43 AM

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Helena

Hi Rad and all the participants on the MB,

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Helena

Merlyn

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Bhaskara

Hi Everyone,

Look forward to learning more after the break...

Heather

Tashi

Ahhhh I see.  I understand....Thanks   And Yes, I will do a deep review as you suggest......
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dollydaydream

Happy and Peaceful Holidays to everyone on the MB :)  DDD

Rad

Hi All,

We will start again in the next couple of days.

God Bless, Rad

Grooot

I'm trying to understand the impetus of this study - is it on-track, side-tracked, or skip-tracked?

This is from page 9, post 121:

QuoteThe mother has become desperate in her attempt to understand where this is coming from and why. It has created an incredible amount of stress within the family unit, the younger sister adores her brother and can't seem to leave him alone, she can't get close enough, while he wants nothing to do with her, in fact, is quite cruel toward her with his words and his energy.

Does the analysis provide some practical remedy for the situation? 
How does the mother's chart complement or conflict with the remedy?

Fundamentally, an absence of trust can foster dysfunction.
How can the family strive to promote trust within their polarities at play?

May we find remedies for our dysfunctions.

Rad

#323
The impetus of this thread is understanding skipped steps in EA. That's why the title to this thread says skipped steps. How to identify, understand,  and resolve them. And this is exactly what we have been doing relative to the skipped steps between the brother and sister. And those resolutions between them have been identified and communicated to them, and their mother by Kristin. And those resolutions have in fact been working to date.

Rad

Hi All,

So here is a summary of how Chloe has taken in, through synastry, Shaw and his skipped steps in general, and with her specifically.

Mars in Leo squaring Shaw's S and N Nodes from the 4th to the 10th:

          A. Competing with him to be the center of attention in all things including the family structure of birth fro all the reasons we have identified thus far. 

          B. Desiring to be his whole universe: to fill him up with her. Thus, needing to be in his space all the time. His need is for his own space which then causes her to feel insecure, abandoned, betrayed, and taken for granted. By not given him his space relative to needing to be the center of his universe causes resentment and anger in him, and the resulting judgments and projections of beliefs about her onto her. Taking him in in this way then causes her to feel confused and wondering why this is happening because she loves him unconditionally. Combined this then creates trauma in the family of birth in this life as the current life parents try to deal with this. Thus, the current life resolution of the skipped steps from her to him is about giving him the space that he needs by objectively understanding that that is simply what he needs for who he is.
         
           C. A absolute infatuation with his soul based on her seeing his soul as a soul which has blinded her to his actual egocentric realties created in other lives. Thus,the current life need to understand him as he actually is: his egocentric realities and the reasons for that reality as she becomes ever older.

            D. She has been absolutely sexually attracted to his soul in other lives in the context of being siblings that caused cataclysmic trauma because of the pregnancy that occurred. This lead to an early life ending for her at his hands. As she becomes ever older in the current life, and as their relationship progresses in this life, there will be many circumstantial triggers created by Shaw that will trigger or ignite her own anger at him. When this happens that anger, when ignited, can consume her and will seem disproportionate to whatever the nature of the circumstance is caused by Shaw.
               This disproportionate reaction signals the skipped step she has with him that must be resolved in the current life. As she becomes older that resolution must manifest by her asking (1) why does he make me so angry (2) what is the best way to work out my anger at him (3) how do I understand and work out my sexual attraction to him even though he is my brother. These resolutions can only occur by way of her accepting the responsibility in her own actions, and the inner dynamics within her that are the cause of those actions. 

South and North Nodes in her 12th/6th squaring his Mercury in Aries in her 9, with that Mercury in opposition to her Venus and Mercury in Libra in her 3rd, and 4th Houses.

             A. The past life dynamics wherein she experienced him projecting all kinds of negative beliefs and judgments about her, negative and accusatory in nature, blaming her for that which he was responsible for, the anger within this, telling her what to believe and think about anything, to oppose her own ideas and understanding of anything, that caused tremendous crisis for her relative to her unconditional love for him: "˜if i love him so much how can he say and do these things to me' ?.
                 And this alternating with other cycles within him in which he would say and manifest himself totally differently towards her in which she felt loved, accepted, encouraged, and sheltered by him.
             Confusion would be the result for her that would have lead to her never really knowing where he would be within himself at any point in time leading to the feeling of walking on eggshells around him.

              B. None of this is resolved due to the skipped steps that occurred in the last life together in which her life ended at his hands. Thus,repeating the relationship as siblings, family, in the current life in order for those skipped steps to be recovered. 

              C. With her Venus and Mercury in opposition to his Mercury that is squaring her Nodal Axis, her own Venus, Mercury squaring her own nodal axis, this means that each of them must learn now to listen to one another so that each can actually understand the actual reality of one another. In so doing, they will then both learn how to give to one another what each actually needs at any moment in time. In this way they will evolve into a state of balance with each other versus the prior cycle of extremes.

If any of you have questions about this please ask now. We will start the final step in the skipped steps between Shaw and Chloe via their composite chart soon.

God Bless, Rad

Bhaskara

Hi Everyone,

Thank you Rad for the breakdown of the skipped step dynamics between Chloe and Shaw.

Heather


dollydaydream

Rad, thanks for the explanation of the skipped steps.  One thing I am wondering about - how come Chloe does not have an instinctive fear response towards her brother since he terminated her life in the past?  Does her infatuation with him override her survival instinct?

Rad

Hi DDD,

Yes, her Soul simply has loved him so much that the very nature of that unconditional love overrides the soul memory of her life be taken at his hands. Within this there is a dynamic within her, a dynamic of masochism symbolized by her Saturn in Virgo, the ruler of her 6th House N.node,  in her 2nd in opposition to her Uranus in Pisces in her 8th, the ruler of that being Neptune in Aquarius in her 7th conjunct her Moon, Chiron, etc, which is Shaw's on Neptune which is the skipped step planet for him.

This dynamic of masochism has thus caused her to blame herself for all that has taken place. When we get into the composite chart, with Pluto squaring the Nodes wherein the S.Node in Virgo, we will develop this more.

God Bless, Rad

dollydaydream

Rad, OK, got it.  Thanks for the answer.  When I read your description a couple of days ago, the words "unconditional love" really struck a chord in me, and I decided to review their charts with that new information.  But I got sidetracked, spaced it out, and failed to make the connection which is why I asked the question about her fearing him.  In addition to the masochism dynamic, now it makes sense.  DDD

marty

hello, thank your for the opportunity to respond.   

   Shaw's Mercury in Aries squares Chloes' nodal axis in Cancer/Capricorn, in her 9th house. (I believe Rad inferred that Chloes' arrival on-the-scene would force the evolutionary intent between them this lifetime.)

   Please correct me if I'm wrong.

   This is what I see:

   Shaw has convinced his conscious mind that he was not complicit in past life dealings / dynamics. He has become "˜disassociated' toward Chloe, on a soul level, convincing himself that she did not matter or that she manipulated him in some way so that he did not have any CHOICE in past life matters, but to do what he did. This might help explain why he appears to be "˜disaffected' by her.

  Shaw, in an attempt to survive and cope, has convinced himself that he is the one who has been hurt, who needs sympathy. He has convinced himself (Chiron in Capricorn in her 6th) that he is the victim here, and needs attention and sympathy. (His Saturn in Cancer in her 12th house) perhaps due to his own maternal woundings or feelins of emotional abandonment.

   With Shaws' Neptune (skipped step) on Chloes' 'Jupiter moon', there would be trepidation, on her part, toward reaching out to him, because long-term memory would be triggered each time, but this signature is on her 7th house cusp, which I believe suggests 2 steps forward, and 1 step backward(?) She may fall into old patterns of 'walling off' her emotional self due to traumatic memory, but Shaws' Neptune is 'new phase' to her No. Node, suggesting new opportunities for spiritual growth and understanding.

   Stemming from his own damaged childhoods, in the past, he has a rather distorted need for attention. He has been able, over lifetimes, to somehow qualify his actions and reactions to others by somehow explaining them himself (his Mercury) that he is not completly responsible for them.

   Shaws' Neptune square his nodes in the 4th and 10th houses - eluding the truth of their familial past. His Neptune in Aquarius is in her 7th house, conjunct her moon, conjunct Jupiter. He has so reinforced the belief that he is somehow not responsible for past actions, again, "˜disassociated' himself from past trauma, and a child that he fathered.

   Over time, Shaw has somehow managed to mentally justify his actions and conscience on a surface level, as a coping mechanism. He may feel, somehow entitled, to regard himself differently than his lower "˜class' (female) sister.

   This is a subconscious (soul) issue that he has so justified to himself and re-inforced in past life-times, that it has carried over into the present lifetime

   He has mastered the art of emotional "˜stuffing' (Saturn in Cancer in her 12th house), but his subliminal responses will get the better of him as both siblings mature and continue to encounter and question their earthly karma (Saturn ruling the 6th house of this synastic chart).

   With Chloe coming to realize some personal authority and autonomy, this lifetime, (No. Node in Capricorn in 6th) through personal growth, maturity and introspection, and as she continuously reaches out to him, at some point, the dam is going to break, and all those emotions will come spilling out, affecting them both.

   At some point, Shaw simply needs to forgive himself (No. node in Taurus, conjunct his sun at 29 Taurus.) This is what he came back to recognize and to do and communicate to himself (his Mars desire in Cancer conjunct No. Node ruler Venus in Gemini) - make new pathways in his brain which would certainly spark her inner-knowingness and truth.

   With Shaw's resolution node in Chloe's 4th house, conjunct her sun, in Scorpio, her very presence will force the issues. His So. Node is waning from his Neptune skipped step. Perhaps he will have an awakening on a soul level that the child involved in this situation has already forgiven him (Pluto moon in her 5th house, conjunct her Pluto may show a mutual desire to find higher purpose and meaning, this lifetime, and realize their mutual parents, and the parents of the child to be "˜Father/Mother God'.)

   I believe this signature of mutual awakening to a higher spiritual understanding, for both siblings, is repeated with Shaws' Saturn in Cancer on the cusp of Chloes' house of ultimate meaning and relationship with Creator.

   This 'Pluto moon' of Shaws', in Chloes' 5th, conjunct her Pluto seems to speak, not only to a child created, but the child inside both of them that is so much affected by the CHOICES they can now make to affect and heal their respective pasts, and come to the realization (Shaws' moon in Sagittarius, and Chloes' "˜Jupiter moon' in Aquarius that the child that was created between them in another life can teach both siblings, on a soul level, how to forgive themselves and come to believe in themselves wholly - as unfragmented beings, worthy of forgiveness and compassion (Shaws' Jupiter in Virgo on Chloes' 2nd house cusp), no matter what shame or self denial they may have carried to this life.

   thanks all for your teaching / comments.