The Transiting Lunar Nodes

[Linda]

From your answer, understanding that there is no polarity of pluto when pluto is near the north node (even slightly more than 10 degrees) as made a big change in my perspective.

The 10 deg orb for North Node conjunct Pluto means no Pluto polarity point.

Since your Pluto is 13º Libra and North Node 24º Libra, there is a Pluto polarity point in your case.

So, when you mention the planetary nodes of mars, mercury and venus, in that

"The natal sign of these planets is that which is the constant, that which integrates the dynamic tension between the past and the future that is experienced in each moment. This then allows for an evolution to take place within the natal sign and house of these planets"

Is it correct to say that in this case, natal mars in aquarius, being the ruler of the all those nodes in aries, also being in sextile and trine, non stressful aspects, to the south and north nodes of the moon, the planet mars could be the one in condition to help the evolution to proceed in the actual houses of the nodal axis, by way of mars/aquarius archetypes (past)? And if there are more planets in non stressful condition to the south node, can also help facilitating this process?

Yes.  Mars is an archetype of the "new" - new choices, new directions, new paths, etc.

All desires to evolve come from the Soul (Pluto) and through Mars these desires are put into action.

In that case the question that i still come to is, if you can answer, is in evolving from past to future, when simultaneously the south node of moon conjuncts the collective north node of mars, venus and the planet venus, ruler of the current north node of the moon, the movement of going forward seems do lead exactly to where it was in the first place, like in a loop, again with skipped steps?

Not skipped steps, but a re-living, going back.  Why?  In order to develop and express these dynamics in a NEW way.

Or, if the necessary steps actually are taken, is it possible to say that the evolutionary intention can be to relive the archetypes (aries, libra) going from a situation of distortion/supression (moon cap square nodes and venus) to one of a new (aries) natural way of expression of the same archetypes, not conflicting within the soul?

Yes.

[Helena]

Hi Linda,

I can see i misunderstood your inicial information on the conjunction orb degrees.
mercury retrograde?

I really appreciate your insight on this, your thoughts were very helpful.
I'll work on that correct information.

Thank you,
Helena

[Rad]

Hi Linda,

Thanks for helping Helena with the questions she asked. All was correct in what you pointed out.

God Bless, Rad

[Rad]

Hi All,

Ok, let's now continue with our discussion of the transiting Lunar Nodes. If you have any questions please ask them of me. God Bless, Rad

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                              NEPTUNE, Pisces, and the 12th House: DECEPTION

So we will now continue in our ongoing understanding of the Neptune, the 12th House, and Pisces. In this next step which is intentionally simple we will examine one of the more sad dimensions of these archetypes: DECEPTION.

Any given Soul can be deceived and/or be the deceiver: or both. Any given Soul can of course also deceive themselves into 'believing' something is either true about themselves that is not, or allow themselves to be deceived because of some underlying need that dictates believing in the deception of another(s).

One of the core reasons that any given Soul can be deceived by another is rooted in what JWG called 'emotional assumptions' emanating from a consciousness that is inwardly defined by Natural Laws wherein there is an expectation that all humans treat one another according to those laws. In Natural Law there is no need to deceive because all humans are working together, in union, on behalf of the whole of the humans that are interacting among themselves. A simple example of one of those laws is the Natural Law of giving, sharing, and inclusion.

So a Soul that is aligned with those Natural Laws simply assumes THAT ALL OTHERS ARE IN FACT DOING SO WHEN THEY ARE NOT. Such Souls are then shocked when the actual reality of another(s) manifests that is in violation of those Natural Laws: another(s) purposeful deception of this kind of Soul.

Soul's that are not aligned with these Natural Laws, those who have identified with the perversion of those laws, then become the Souls who are able to then deceive others in order to accomplish some sort of agenda that they inwardly feel they could not otherwise actualize. This reflects the perversion of the Natural Law of giving, sharing, and inclusion to one of SELF INTEREST AND EXCLUSION. This type of Soul can then also attempt to convince itself of its own delusions about itself: that is not doing what it is actually doing.

Because of the Natural Law of karma wherein an action will have a proportionate reaction these types of Souls then set themselves up to also be deceived by others. Yet because of their own deceptions about themselves that manifests as denying their actual reality they then can feel VICTIMIZED by others who are in fact doing exactly what they themselves are doing.

By creating a consciousness that is now victimized these Souls then create rationalizations to victimize others by way of their agendas to get back at the others whom they have deceived themselves into believing that they have themselves been victimized by.

So when we look into any given birth chart we can see where all of these Neptune archetypes of deception can manifest. We can see it by way of the house and sign of the South Node of Neptune and the location by house/ sign and aspects to its ruler: Uranus. All Soul's on Earth have their collective South Nodes of Neptune in Aquarius which we will be discussing later on as we progress in this thread.

The placement of the natal Neptune by its own house and sign, and aspects to it, correlate with any given Soul bringing the past archetypes of deception into the current life consciousness. In other words the natal house and sign of Neptune in the current life correlates to the vehicles that the Soul is using in the current life that brings forth the past life dynamics of deception in order to deal with them in one way or the other in the context of the current life.

The North Node of Neptune, which of course is in Leo for all Souls, by its own house and sign and the aspects to it, correlates with how the Soul is intending to take charge of these existing dynamics involving deception in order to do what is necessary about them so that, hopefully and intentionally, that they are eliminated from the consciousness of the Soul: either by not allowing itself to be deceived by others ever again, or by exposing the inner deceptions the Soul has about itself that then manifests as deceiving others and/ or allowing itself to be deceived because of some need that has created that deception in the first place.

In the context of the current life the sign on the 12th House, the location of its planetary ruler with aspects to it, and where the sign Pisces is on a given house cusp which then of course refers back to the totality of the Neptune archetype, it's North and South Nodes, are additional vehicles or doors through which the archetype of deception can manifest.

And now with the transit of the Lunar Nodes into Pisces and Virgo the actual house that the S. Lunar Node of Pisces can correlate to where the Soul can experience these types of deceptions which will then lead to an experiential crisis, Virgo, because of those deceptions. The house the the Lunar N.Node of Virgo is in can also serve as the lead point of attracting these types of deceptions. In other words brand new types of circumstances and developments in the Soul's life can manifest through the house of the transiting Lunar N.Node of Virgo in which the Soul can be deceived even as the Soul wants to "˜believe' that whatever the nature of those new circumstances and developments are are in fact rooted in truth versus something in which some sort of deception is taking place. 

[Wei]

Hi Rad, i remember when JWG teaching about pisces/neptune/12th house archtype, he mentioned there are exhausted souls, these souls would need more rest/sleep to recover energy (can't remember how he said it excatly),  does this exhausted soul correlates to neptune archetype? And would you please give some example, why would a soul choose this condition of life, or what kind of karma/trauma could lead to this condition? I can understand body get's tired, or people become emotionally drained, but why is a soul borned exhausted, like before incarnation, can't a soul recharge its energy?
Thank you as always!

[Rad]

Hi Wei,

Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th correlates with sleep whereas the exhaustion of the Soul, itself, correlates with Scorpio, Pluto, and the 8th House. What JWG was referring too are Soul's who have experienced so much trauma, unresolved, that it then leads to such a condition. What those traumas have been, and the causes of, can only be determined, in each case, by a careful EA examination of the birth chart of such Souls. Remember, trauma of itself, correlates to Uranus, Aquarius, and the 11th House. The 'why' of it is also determined by way of the overall EA signature of each chart in which this occurs. Yes, when the Soul leaves the physical form after each life, there is a sense of Soul renewal: being recharged. Yet when Souls who have deep unresolved trauma are reborn it is the weight of those unresolved traumas that exist as actual memories within the Soul that manifest through the individuated unconscious, Uranus, Aquarius, and the 11th House, that then can cause this condition of exhaustion to the point of needing excessive sleep in order to deal with it, and to, hopefully renew the Soul to some extent.

God Bless, Rad

[Wei]

Hi Rad, thanks for this amazing infomation, exactly what i wanna know.

[Rad]

Hi Wei,

Remember too that the flip side of those Souls born with deep, unresolved, trauma, or deep trauma created in the current life, is an inability to sleep for any real length of time: basically cat naps of various duration's.

God Bless, Rad

[marty]

   I would like to participate in a discussion of transiting Lunar nodes affecting us at a World level, as well as a personal Soul level.

   thank you.

   How does the current, transiting, SN in Pisces relate to an individual's Ultimate Sense of Meaning and Ideals in terms of whether this Meaning is being projected on others, or being realized as an "Inner Marriage" with the Self?

   Does the transiting NN in Virgo act as a catalyst to wake up an individual as to how their relationship to the "Source of All Things" is being realized and evolved?

[Linda]

Welcome Marty.

[Rad]

Hi Marty,

" How does the current, transiting, SN in Pisces relate to an individual's Ultimate Sense of Meaning and Ideals in terms of whether this Meaning is being projected on others, or being realized as an "Inner Marriage" with the Self?"

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The transiting S.Lunar Node of Pisces, as well as the transit of Neptune, can correlate to where the Soul projects an ultimate sense of meaning for their life: by house, aspects to it, where the natural ruler of Pisces, Neptune, is located natally and the aspects to it, the location of the S.Node of Neptune, aspects to it, and the location of it's natural planetary ruler by house, sign, and aspects to it. All this has been explained previously in all that has been written in this thread to this point. When the sense of ultimate meaning is projecting onto anything other than the Source OF All Things then, at some point, the experience of disillusionment will take place in order to create, because of the crisis created by way of being disillusioned, the natural Virgo counterpoint, the awareness of why this projection has been made in the first place. In so doing, Soul knowledge occurs so that, hopefully, such projections are no longer further made, and the Soul can orientate, desire, to KNOW what the climate meaning for life is. Once this is set in motion, at some point, the Soul will arrive, evolve, towards the inner sacred marriage that you are speaking of.

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   "Does the transiting NN in Virgo act as a catalyst to wake up an individual as to how their relationship to the "Source of All Things" is being realized and evolved?"

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Yes

God Bless, Rad

[Rad]

All,

We will continue on with our discussion of the transiting Lunar Nodes in Virgo and Pisces. We will now focus on Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th house archetypal correlations to victimization. If you have any questions please ask. God Bless, Rad


                                           NEPTUNE AND VICTIMIZATION

One of the correlations of Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House is one of victimization. There are two manifestations of this archetype: (1) to feel victimized by some external source, and (2) to victimize others through one's own actions which so often connects to a relative archetype: scapegoating.

As relative archetype that then correlates to this is one of persecution: being persecuted, or doing the persecuting.

When a Soul feels victimized this typically occurs because it cannot understand and/ or accept the responsibility in its own actions, actions that, at some point, have created the necessity of being victimized by another(s). This can be particularity difficult when those actions have taken place in another life, or lives, because most Souls do not have the evolved capacity to remember their own prior lives.

This is one of the wonderful things about EA because it allows for exactly that kind of understanding in order to accept the responsibilities in one's own actions even when those actions have taken place in another time and place.

When a Soul has felt victimized, is unable to accept/ understand the responsibilities in their own actions it can be very easy to victimize another(s). In essence, to blame others, scapegoat, others for that which the Soul is responsible for. Thus, to project what is actually taking place within their own subconsciousness, Uranus, onto others and/ or making up out of whole cloth "˜realities' that have nothing to do with actual reality: delusions and illusions.

This of course can manifest as whole groups of people, countries too, attacking/ persecuting/ and victimizing other groups of people and/ or whole countries. All too often "˜religion' is used in the "˜name of God' as the justification in so doing. So we end up with evil creeps like Hitler, Pol-Pot, this religious group or that, attacking whole groups of people or races that are scapegoated, victimized, persecuted in order to mask their own actual realities and agendas which they are in denial of.  

Sadly, human history from the time of the Patriarchy forwards is full of this, and is full of one human victimizing/ persecuting/ scapegoating another human. This happens in all dimensions and spheres of human interaction.

An extension of these archetypes of victimization/ persecution/ and scapegoating are the archetypes of masochism and sadism. Masochism is an archetype that is rooted in guilt, and the need to atone for that guilt. Thus, the Soul who is masochistic feels that the abuse that it attracts is DESERVED. Sadism is also rooted in guilt yet that guilt creates a deep inner anger that is projected onto others is sadistic ways: a deep need/ desire to humiliate and abuse others FOR THAT WHICH IT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR. Masochists blame themselves for that which THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR.

It is very important to understand that Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House correlate to the "˜potential' for masochism/ sadism. In other words it is within these archetypes. Yet, it is through the natural polarity of Virgo, the 6th House, and Mercury that triggers the potential within these archetypes to manifest as a reality. The archetypes of Virgo, Mercury, and the 6th House, among others, is one wherein the Soul creates various kinds of crises that, by their very nature, trigger the actualization of the potential contained in the Pisces, 12th House, and Neptune archetypes.  

There is also a form of masochism that JWG called "˜spiritual masochism' which is very different that psychopathologic masochism. Spiritual masochism is the conscious act of sacrificing oneself on behalf of another or others so that by such an act of self-sacrifice another or others can benefit in some way. So we can have the extreme example of a Soul like Jesus hanging on the Cross and basically suffocating to death so that other Souls could benefit by this act of sacrifice to a mother allowing one of her kidney's to be taken out, and given to another who could then live because of this act of sacrifice. These examples could be exampled in all kinds of ways.

Spiritual Masochism thus correlates to a related archetype called martyrdom. Through the archetype of martyrdom the Soul sacrifices itself for a cause that is larger than itself.

The transit of Neptune, the Lunar South Node in Pisces by house relative to the location of it's Neptune natal placement can correlate to where a Soul can create the sense of being victimized, and why. The transiting Lunar N.Node in Virgo, by house relative to it's natal planetary ruler, Mercury, can correlate to the actual circumstances, the lead point for the evolving Soul, that create this sense of being victimized.

[Wei]

Hi Wei,

Remember too that the flip side of those Souls born with deep, unresolved, trauma, or deep trauma created in the current life, is an inability to sleep for any real length of time: basically cat naps of various duration's.

God Bless, Rad

Hi Rad, i'm completely resonate with what you described......is this situation cyclically or permanently for this kind of soul? I'd guess if any transit/progression triggered this deep unresolved trauma, in this time period this situation would be intensified? In this situation, the soul can't really do any healing work or recover their energy during sleep state, may i ask what the soul should do, take cat naps as they can then follow the impulsion to do something when they can't fall asleep? And how should they regenerate their energy in this case?
Many thanks

[Rad]

Hi Wei,

" i'm completely resonate with what you described......is this situation cyclically or permanently for this kind of soul?"

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It can be either depending on the Soul, and the nature of the unresolved traumas

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"I'd guess if any transit/progression triggered this deep unresolved trauma, in this time period this situation would be intensified?"

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Yes

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"In this situation, the soul can't really do any healing work or recover their energy during sleep state, may i ask what the soul should do, take cat naps as they can then follow the impulsion to do something when they can't fall asleep? And how should they regenerate their energy in this case?"

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The best thing to do is just go with these cycles of cat naps AS THEY OCCUR. So, yes, to go with it, some impulse to act, as they occur as well. The regeneration, to the extent it's possible, occurs by following these cycles of cat naps and being awake as they occur.

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God Bless, Rad

[Rad]

All,

So we can continue on in our discussion and understanding of the transiting Lunar Nodes. If you have any questions please ask them of me. God Bless, Rad

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                  NEPTUNE - INSTABILITY OF THE CONSCIOUSNESS OF THE SOUL

So now we can add to our ongoing understanding of the totality of the archetypes that correlate with Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th house which involves the potential for the consciousness of the Soul to manifest various neurosis's, psychosis's, schizophrenia, multiple personality disorders, and total insanity.

When the inherent structural nature of consciousness which correlates to Saturn, Capricorn, and the 10th House becomes fractured in such a way that it's structural integrity that keeps the consciousness stable becomes unstable. The stable nature of the consciousness defined through its inherent structure correlates to the inherent proportions of the physiology of the brain. When this physiology changes in its proportions then the nature of the consciousness changes relative to its inherent design. Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th house specifically correlate to the balance or imbalances of the various physiological substances within the brain. These potential imbalances can be from relatively slight to extreme.

The causative factor in the proportions of the various physiologies within the brain of course is the Soul. Thus, the conditions that the Soul creates for itself coming through its evolutionary time which reflects it's desires, and the consequences of those desires, causes the specific physiology within the brain in each life.

Pluto, Scorpio, and the 8th House correlate to the primary brain. As we just learned in our last segment this is where our dreams manifest from. The nature of most dreams seem non-sensical where all kinds of images manifest in a non-structured way. They seem to have a life of their own where the 'dreamer' of the dreams feels unable to change them. The dreams appear or 'seem' to be in charge of the dreamer: a hapless witness who at once is observing and experiencing the emotional effects of the dreams themselves.

When the Soul becomes fractured for whatever reasons this fracturing will create some degree of trauma. The nature of the trauma(s) then becomes the causative factor in the nature of the dream images. The physiology of these then alters the natural physiological balances of all the various substances within the brain. In turn this can then lead, in varying degrees, to various neurosis's , psychosis's, schizophrenia, , multiple personality disorder, and total insanity wherein the egocentric structure that the Soul has created in whatever current life becomes overwhelmed by the unconscious content that then manifests in these ways: like 'dreams' that become the 'reality', Saturn, for the Soul itself.  

It is as if the primary brain that, again, is the seat of the Soul that contains within itself all prior life memories, is pounding on Saturn's door in such a way as to overwhelm that structural control of consciousness in its natural or inherent state. Thus,   the inner imagery that comes from this primary brain interacts with the mid brain, Neptune, by way of the limbic system. Here, again, we have the secretion   of physiological substances that directly correlate to and trigger emotions. So now we can see that the Soul is reacting to itself by way of the images manifesting from it that have an emotional reactions that now begin to overwhelm the natural or inherent structural nature of the brain by way of the natural proportions of the various physiological substances that keep it that way.

In essence Saturn correlates to the natural boundary within consciousness that separates the unconscious content of the Soul, and it's current life reality that is defined by the egocentric structure that the Soul has created for that life. This is the natural structural nature of consciousness. And this is deliberate by way of the Soul, and the Creator of the Soul, so that the Soul can focus on the life at hand, and the intentions for that life which of course reflects its ongoing evolutionary journey. Thus, a natural evolutionary progression can occur for the Soul in a natural way.

When the natural proportions of the various physiological substances within the brain become altered for the reasons we now can understand this then causes the Soul to IMAGINE, Neptune,  'realities', Saturn, where what is being imagined by way of the various neurosis's, psychosis's, schizophrenia, and total insanity is being caused by memories from this or other lives that is projected from within the consciousness of the Soul into its current life circumstances. Again, this can range from being relatively mild to extreme. In all cases there is an imbalance of the inherent total physiology of the brain. This is why, for example, these conditions of consciousness, in the times we now live in, are treated with drugs, physiological substances, whose intent of course to stabilize the consciousness within the brain that is being caused by the Soul itself.  

From an EA point of view when any of these conditions occur from within the consciousness of the Soul it is necessary to determine the 'why' of it in order to understand it. This as we know is one of the great wonders of EA for it allows the EA astrologer to play a role that is similar to a detective. An EA detective ! Thus an understanding of the core EA paradigm can provide exactly this understanding because of its detective nature: cause and effect.

Within that EA paradigm there will almost always be a signature that correlates with these altered states of consciousness wherein the inherent physiological substances within the brain are out of balance in some way. This signature can be seen in many ways but the archetype of Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th house will always be indicated by, typically, stressful aspects. Squares to Neptune, T-squares to Neptune, oppositions Neptune or   planets in the 12th House, to the ruler of the 12th House, or to the Nodal Axis of Neptune can all correlate to this signature.

Additionally, wherever the transit of Neptune is as well as the transiting S.Node of the Moon in Pisces by house, that then refers back to the natal Neptune as well as the S.Node of Neptune, can correlate to where and how this potential for instability within the consciousness of the Soul can take place. The transiting N.Node in Virgo by house, it's reference to the natal position of Mercury by it's own house, sign, and aspects to it, can operate as the operational circumstantial trigger that that can create or lead to this instability within the consciousness of the Soul. Such circumstances will correlate to the Soul perceiving some kind of crisis where the nature of the perceived crisis is that which causes the instability to occur.