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The Transiting Lunar Nodes

Started by Rad, Oct 29, 2015, 07:22 AM

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Rad

Hi Kristin,

Sure, here is an example. This is the same birth chart for JWG but we will put that chart, not him, in the 2nd stage individuated for our example. If you have any questions after this please ask again. God Bless, Rad

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So let's put the South Node of Neptune that is in Aquarius in the 3rd House, it's ruler Uranus in Gemini in the 8th House, the natal Neptune in Libra in the 11th House, and the Leo North Node of Neptune in the 9th with its ruler, the Sun, in Sagittarius in the 2nd House. The evolutionary stage will be 2nd Individuated.

Here we can see that this Soul has been progressively rebelling against all the ideas, and the opinions they generate, of the collective consciousness/ unconscious in order to individuate itself by way of desiring to know that which can actually be known by way of various ways of personal investigation: this is the relationship between the 3rd and the 8th House in our example.

The desire of the Soul has been to orientate to knowledge that can be proven by way of these personal investigations: 8th House. Coming into the current life with the Neptune in the 11th House, in this evolutionary context, the Soul is inwardly feeling like an outsider relative to the social milieu, and it's various groupings of people within the total context of humanity itself. It feels itself to be an outsider because of all the ideas/ opinions that most consider or cherish to be true. From the inner perch of being an outsider the Soul is then observing how whole groupings of people are organized relative to what and how they think. The ongoing effect of the collective unconscious / consciousness continues to be used by this Soul by way of rebelling against any ideas/ opinions that cannot be directly provable by way of personal investigations.

This Soul will only form relationships, Neptune in Libra, within the context of the country that it is born into to others who also feel radically different than the consensus, others who are standing on the outskirts of society, others who question everything, others who demand some kind of proof of what is actually real versus that which is simply beliefs that are considered to be real.

With the North Node of Neptune in the 9th House, and ruled by a Sagittarius Sun in the 2nd, the Soul is beginning to desire to understand, just beginning because of the 2nd stage individuated, the Natural Laws that are responsible for Creation itself. Within these symbols the Soul will progressively be shifting it's consciousness from a left brain orientation to phenomenal reality to the right brain. From the liner to the nonlinear. In essence to begin the process of conceptual understanding of the whole versus a linear approach that builds the whole in that way.     

In this way the Soul is evolving from a consciousness of total rebellion of all ideas, this is not real, this is bullshit, this a lie, and so on to a consciousness that is just beginning to replace that existing orientation to one wherein is desires to know that which can actually be known via proof relative to an understanding to the conceptual whole of Creation by way of the Natural Laws that are the very structure of that Creation.

This evolution of the Soul's consciousness is thus changing its own inner relationship to itself: the Sagittarius Sun in the 2nd House. In so changing its inner relationship to itself it is simultaneously changing its own inner magnetism, its own inner vibration that in turn will change the Soul's relationships to others in general, those in its life specifically, and, finally, to the Soul's relationship with the collective itself: the world in which it lives.

As the Soul evolves in this way it will, as a next evolutionary step, desire to help others understand that which itself has come to understand about the nature of what is true, and what is not, what is real, and what is not. This will at first manifest in very limited ways by way of it's personal relationships that will finally evolve into being able to actualize sociological roles, Neptune in the 11th House, the evolution of the South Node of Neptune being in Aquarius, in which the Soul, by way of those roles, will progressively help increasing numbers of people to understand that actual truths of themselves, the truths humans beings, of how and why societies form and organize in the ways that they do.

Relative to the evolutionary stage of development as the Soul begins to move into the 3rd individuated the Soul will naturally desire to be able to 'teach' this in one way or another: the North Node of Neptune in the 9th relative to its ruler the Sun being in Sagittarius. The vehicle of teaching will thus serve the Soul's desire and need to progressively reintegrate itself into the world in general, and it's country of origin specifically. In this way that which the Soul teaches will impact on the very nature of the collective consciousness. Tying this together with another archetype that we have discussed in our thread this Soul could be receiving, and thus inwardly hearing, the 'whispers' for what we call God this is encouraging the Soul to do just that.

Much more could be said relative to these symbols, i.e. a series of prior lifetimes in which the Soul itself has been attacked and persecuted for its own individual / unique ideas that challenged the existing consensus and thus their security, others who have been attacked or punished in some way for the same reasons,   but I am trying to purposefully keep it simple so that, hopefully, we can all understand how to apply the archetypes of what we have been discussing in our last segment. If it doesn't, or you or others need another example, or have questions about the example used here, just ask.

Kristin

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Hi Rad,

Thank you! This was an excellent example, very helpful and clear.

It was a great exercise to work through this chart from a 2nd individuated into the 3rd individuated as the Soul evolves in this context. The example too of re-integrating into the world through the vehicle of teaching, North Node of Neptune in Leo conjunct the Pluto/Saturn in the 9th, as a result of what the Soul had learned for himself, and what had been proven to him.  

I also noticed Uranus, the ruler of his SN Neptune Aquarius, is retrograde, as well as his North Node of Neptune in Leo in the 9th. Also, Pluto and Saturn of course are retrograde, re-stating the rebellion, and the feeling of alienation, to the point of not being able to relate to most humans on this planet at all.

Yet this pronounced emphasis of being wired to teach, giving the Soul a sense of meaning, ruler of the North Node of Neptune in Leo in the 9th, is the Sun in Sag the 2nd, to teach what most may feel is radical, yet this Soul is designed to open people's minds, to expand their reach of understanding, essentially to wake people up to what is true, via a system that can prove such things, versus allowing delusion of , ie. most religions etc, to be perpetuated.

Thanks again Rad,
Kristin

Rad

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All,

We should take notice that an historic agreement has been reached in Paris, France concerning global warming. It is truly a remarkable achievement where over 200 countries have agreed to it. I have posted extensive articles on this in our climate and environment thread. This has occurred just as the Lunar Nodal axis has shifted into Pisces/Virgo. The underlying issue is of course trying to do all we can, as a species, to try to heal our wounded planet, Nature, and of course our atmosphere. Atmospheres correlate specifically to Uranus, Aquarius, and the 11th House. Thus, with our collective S.Node of Neptune in Aquarius we can easily see the 'trauma' that has been created in our atmosphere because of the incredible degree of pollution that the human species has put into it. The N.Node of Neptune in Leo of course demands that humans take charge of the trauma that it has created, and is responsible for. This agreement symbolizes and reflects just that.

The transiting N.Node being in Virgo of course correlates to the existing crisis that is at hand relative to our atmosphere. The leading edge of crisis is that which is of course the trigger for the transiting S.Node in Pisces to attempt to try to do something in order to heal or resolve this crisis to the extent possible. The transit of Neptune now in Pisces demands that we do just that. The Neptune transit is progressively squaring our collective S.Node of Uranus, atmosphere, in Sagittarius, and it's N.Node in Gemini.

I am posting an article that reflects the underlying issues for our species that this agreement reflects. Notice the language being used in it which is perfectly Pisces / Virgo language. I am also posting the chart for when this agreement was reached. I am not certain of the exact time, but the time I am using I think is very close to when the gavel was put down marking when the passage of this agreement.

Feel free to comment as you will on any of this.

God Bless
Rad

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The Paris Climate Agreement Is One Huge Step For Mankind

The accord shows humans can transcend narrow national interests.

Jo Confino Executive Editor, Impact & Innovation, The Huffington Post
12/12/2015 02:05 pm ET | Updated 16 hours ago
Matt Dunham/ASSOCIATED PRESS

Humanity has passed a vital test.

The significance of nearly 200 countries coming together to agree on a historic deal to limit catastrophic climate change shows that countries can go beyond their narrow national interests when the future of civilization is at stake.

It is fitting that the agreement was reached in Paris, which just a month ago was victim of a terrible terrorist atrocity.

In these two events we see a perfect representation of our duality and the choices that humanity faces in the decades to come.

We are essentially at a crossroads. One path is to fall prey to righteousness and extremism, which sees people retreating into a place of fear and anger, which in turn leads to escalating violence and the scapegoating of communities. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump falling into the Islamic State's trap by calling for the banning of all Muslims entering the United States is a perfect example of this escalation of hostilities.

The other path humanity can take is for people to recognize that what unites us is far greater than what separates us.

France's Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius, announcing the final draft of the climate agreement on Saturday, talked of how someone had "the other day reminded us of Nelson Mandela's sentence: it always seems impossible until it's done. I wish to add some other words to that, words spoken by the same hero: None of us acting alone can be successful. Success is built collectively."

Christiana Figueres, who has masterfully supervised the climate talks in her role as head of the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change, says this is a time in our history where it is more important than ever to respect our differences and work collaboratively.

She told me recently that the climate talks should not be seen in isolation but as a gateway to creating a new global governance structure to deal with the many challenges we face. She sees this almost as a spiritual journey that requires us all to expand of our awareness and consciousness of what it means to be a citizen of planet Earth.

She has spent enormous efforts bringing the world's religions together to support a climate deal, in part because she recognizes there is a common thread in all spiritual traditions; a recognition of the inter-dependence of all life.

This essentially means that individuals, communities and nations must look beyond their own particular needs and recognize that true prosperity can come only from everyone winning.

We are already seeing the results of what the opposite path could look like. The Syrian civil war was preceded by what experts say was the worst drought in more than 800 years, and we have already seen how the crisis is leading to countries' fear of being swamped by refugees.

But these numbers would be dwarfed if climate change went unchecked. Noted climate economist Nicholas Stern told me that "hundreds of millions of people, perhaps billions of people would have to move. If we've learned anything from history that means severe and extended conflict."

"We couldn't just turn it off," he said. "You can't make a peace treaty with the planet, you can't negotiate with the laws of physics. You're in there, you're stuck. Those are the stakes we're playing for."

A failure to work together would cause dislocation across all areas of society. Referring to climate change, Paul Polman, the CEO of global consumer goods giant Unilever, repeatedly states that business cannot prosper in a failing society.

What makes the climate agreement particularly significant is the increasing recognition that our lives are intimately connected to nature and that, far from being all-powerful, humanity is intensely vulnerable to any changes in the balance of the environment.

We are already seeing that with less than a 1-degree rise in global temperatures, extreme weather has the power to devastate communities and to hamper the ability to grow enough food to feed a growing global population.

The Vietnamese Zen master Thich Nhat Hanh, who has hundreds of thousands of followers around the world and has been a strong advocate for climate action for decades, once told me that "fear, separation, hate and anger come from the wrong view that you and the earth are two separate entities, the Earth is only the environment. You are in the centre and you want to do something for the Earth in order for you to survive. That is a dualistic way of seeing."

When we act with generosity and passion, humanity is able to produce extraordinary feats. The climate agreement represents a common purpose in which every person on the planet can participate.

As the eco-philospher Joanna Macy, with her co-author Chris Johnstone, pointed out in her book Active Hope: "When we become aware of an emergency and rise to the occasion, something powerful gets switched on inside us. We activate our sense of purpose and discover strengths we didn't even know we had. Being able to make a difference is powerfully enlivening; it makes our lives feel more worthwhile.

"Seeing ourselves as separate entities, rather than as connected parts of a larger whole, reduces the search for purpose to a preoccupation with how well our self is doing compared with others. As a result, the unhealthy obsession with appearance and status known as "˜affluenza' has become a major contributor to emotional distress.

"To promote the recovery of our world and the healing of our communities, while also living lives that are rich and satisfying, we need to embody a larger story of who and what we are."

The Paris climate agreement is not the end of the story, as now begins the hard work to ensure that it is transformed into meaningful action.

There are many who will see the agreement as not going as far enough as they had hoped. But stepping back a moment brings to mind Neil Armstrong's most famous line, spoken after becoming the first person to set foot on the moon: "That's one small step for [a] man, one giant leap for mankind."  

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And this from Al Gore who, more than almost anyone, brought the awareness to our collective consciousness, Neptune, this issue of Global Warming.


Al Gore Chairman, Generation Investment Management and The Climate Reality Project
Speaking with One Voice to Solve the Climate Crisis


Posted: 12/12/2015 3:00 pm EST Updated: 12/12/2015 4:59 pm EST

PARIS CLIMATE

Today, the nations of the world concluded a bold and historic agreement, clearly demonstrating that the global community is speaking with one voice to solve the climate crisis. Years from now, our grandchildren will reflect on humanity's moral courage to solve the climate crisis and they will look to December 12, 2015, as the day when the community of nations finally made the decision to act.

This universal and ambitious agreement sends a clear signal to governments, businesses, and investors everywhere: the transformation of our global economy from one fueled by dirty energy to one fueled by sustainable economic growth is now firmly and inevitably underway.

The components of this agreement -- including a strong review mechanism to enhance existing commitments and a long-term goal to eliminate global-warming pollution this century -- are essential to unlocking the necessary investments in our future. No agreement is perfect, and this one must be strengthened over time, but groups across every sector of society will now begin to reduce dangerous carbon pollution through the framework of this agreement.

The Paris agreement represents the ceaseless efforts of civil society, governments, business, and investors, all of whom have dedicated themselves to this cause. Most of all, thanks are due to the French government led by President Hollande and Minister Fabius, and the United Nations, led by Secretary General Ban Ki-moon and Christiana Figueres and her team at the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change.

Skywalker

Hi Rad,

Is JWG a Daemon Soul?

And relative to the transiting Nodes, in his case, at the time of the dream, he had Venus conjunct Mars in the Seventh House in Taurus and Venus/Mars ruled the transiting Lunar nodes at that time.

Do those symbols correlate with the fact that he initiated a new cycle, in which he would need to relate to others much more than in the past, since he was so focused on his own inner contemplation and would now need to relate more to others in order to actualize the evolutionary needs as symbolized by his own North Node in the Seventh House? And would it also correlate to him having new found resources to better survive by generating income thru EA?

Thank you

All the best
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Rad

Hi Skywalker,

"Is JWG a Daemon Soul?"

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Yes..

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"And relative to the transiting Nodes, in his case, at the time of the dream, he had Venus conjunct Mars in the Seventh House in Taurus and Venus/Mars ruled the transiting Lunar nodes at that time.

Do those symbols correlate with the fact that he initiated a new cycle, in which he would need to relate to others much more than in the past, since he was so focused on his own inner contemplation and would now need to relate more to others in order to actualize the evolutionary needs as symbolized by his own North Node in the Seventh House? "

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Yes

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"And would it also correlate to him having new found resources to better survive by generating income thru EA?"

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It was not so much as finding new resources to better survive as it was an expansion upon the inherent resources that already existed within his Soul. Inherent resources to make a living correlate with the 2nd House, Taurus, and the inner side of Venus. Thus, the transiting Mars and Venus were in Taurus that referred back to his natal Mars in Sagittarius in the 2nd House. So, other words, once the EA that came through him via Yukestwar, this set in motion an incredible increase in his clientele, his teaching workload, and all the travels that began relative to him teaching EA, and astrology in general from an EA point of view, around the world. This of course included all the books that he wrote that generated it's own income. His typical work week in the 1980's, for example, was seeing 8 clients a day, five days a week, teaching three nights, doing a monthly workshop locally, and traveling once a month to somewhere in the world to lecture which included typically seeing about 30 clients at each place that he would go.

God Bless, Rad

Linda

Quote from: Rad on Dec 11, 2015, 04:35 AM
Hi Linda,

"My question is:  Can a "whisper" in fact not be coming from Source, but rather from one's own Soul dynamics - perhaps through evolutionary necessity?"

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Yes

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"Another question is:  How does one discriminate whether a desire to do a "good deed" is coming from Source, or coming from another source?"

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The desire to do a good deed, in and of itself, can either come from within the Soul itself and/ or be 'prompted' by the higher Source we can call the Source Of All Things. Such a desire is never caused by evil or any other negative type of influence.

And, again, the 'whispers' that are caused or influenced by the Source Of All Things typically manifest more than once: repeated over and over.

A key point to remember/ know too is that is such whispers, as in your example, are caused by the Source they will have a 'reason' as in some intended affect that the whispers are meant to have on the recipient of the giving: your long time friend. The value is always in the effort even if the intentions for the giving have not been realized. And, remember too, that a common dynamic for those that do give to others, in general, is for an EXPECTED outcome. The issue of giving, from the Sources point of view, is simply to give for giving sake: without an expected outcome. When an expected outcome is associated or attached to the act of giving then it is really not a 'pure' form of giving that can then lead to disillusionment: Neptune. Once disillusionment occurs relative to the act of giving then this, of itself, can cause all kinds of psychological/ emotional dynamics such a doubting whether the act of 'giving' should have taken place in the first place.

Feel free to ask more about this Linda. And, if you want. post your birth chart with an outer ring of the existing transits taking place when this even took place. Post the chart of your friend as well. If you decide to do this it will  help serve as a learning vehicle for us all.

God Bless, Rad


Hi Rad,


Thank you for the invitation to post further questions.  I cannot post her chart as I do not have her permission.

Since reading your response, I have pondered deeply upon these issues.  It is striking how much clarity one can have when they are aware of the archetypes and dynamics of the Transiting Lunar Nodes!

Btw, my friend and I are both in the 1st stage Spiritual evolutionary condition, therefore these questions are rich in meaning for us right now.  


QuoteRad's quote:  A key point to remember/ know too is that if such whispers, as in your example, are caused by the Source they will have a 'reason' as in some intended effect that the whispers are meant to have on the recipient of the giving: your long time friend.

Q.  Is the intended effect to do with my and my friend's evolutionary intentions and lessons?  That is, for both the giver and the receiver?


QuoteRad's quote:  When an expected outcome is associated or attached to the act of giving then it is really not a 'pure' form of giving that can then lead to disillusionment: Neptune.

This has been a profound realization.  I discovered that where this conditioning pattern began could be revealed by looking at the South Node of Neptune in Aquarius, wherever it is in the chart.  For me, it is found in the 4th house exactly conjunct my Chiron.

Obviously I have been wounded - and have wounded others - because of the "belief" that I must always give to a friend with whom I am emotionally involved or attached.  If I learn to give in the Now Moment, give to others in response to a repeating "whisper" from Source, and not expect any return in the future, then it is a form of pure giving, as you have taught.

Q.  Could you please talk about the desire to do good for others becoming automatic or dogmatic within the Soul?  Could the origins of this belief be in religion?  Or is it more natural?  

Q.  I have noticed the desire to do good in people of all evolutionary conditions.  How can one distinguish religious do-gooders from those who are inspired to naturally do good?  Is there a different between distorted and undistorted giving?

Q.  Have all Souls presently living had past lives in the Age of Pisces and its Virgo sub-age?

Q.  On the geodetic world map, the Pisces zone covers UK, west Africa and Spain, while the Virgo zone covers East Australia (where I live).  With the Transiting Lunar Nodes, is there some special impact upon the people living in these zones?

Q.  When others are giving to me from the "belief" that they need to repay me because of something I had given to them in the past, what is the best attitude to have?  Reject the gift?  Accept the gift?  Say something?

Q.  With Neptune on the Ascendant, my body is very sensitive to loud noise right now.  What does "noise" correlate to, and what is the deeper meaning for its impact upon the body?  


Thanks for this very enlightening and interesting discussion.

Linda


Rad

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Hi Linda,

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Rad's quote:  A key point to remember/ know too is that if such whispers, as in your example, are caused by the Source they will have a 'reason' as in some intended effect that the whispers are meant to have on the recipient of the giving: your long time friend.

Q.  Is the intended effect to do with my and my friend's evolutionary intentions and lessons?  That is, for both the giver and the receiver?

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Yes

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Rad's quote:  When an expected outcome is associated or attached to the act of giving then it is really not a 'pure' form of giving that can then lead to disillusionment: Neptune.

This has been a profound realization.  I discovered that where this conditioning pattern began could be revealed by looking at the South Node of Neptune in Aquarius, wherever it is in the chart.  For me, it is found in the 4th house exactly conjunct my Chiron.

Obviously I have been wounded - and have wounded others - because of the "belief" that I must always give to a friend with whom I am emotionally involved or attached.  If I learn to give in the Now Moment, give to others in response to a repeating "whisper" from Source, and not expect any return in the future, then it is a form of pure giving, as you have taught.

Q.  Could you please talk about the desire to do good for others becoming automatic or dogmatic within the Soul?  Could the origins of this belief be in religion?  Or is it more natural?  

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It can be both. Giving, of itself, is natural, intrinsic to the Natural Laws set in motion at the moment of the Manifest Creation. The natural principle/ law of giving, sharing, and inclusion is intrinsic to consciousness. The invented religions of humans have of course turned this natural law into various types of dogmas that pervert this natural law. For example, in natural law, it is essential to know and understand that when an act of giving can manifest as the appearance of withholding giving where that appearance is an actual act of giving. Why ? Because there are situations where the act of giving will actually create a reality in which the one receiving the giving sustains whatever the existing dynamics are within them that is in fact preventing necessary growth, or preventing something that must occur or be realized that will allow for a necessary growth or evolution to take place.

Religions that create this dogma of giving this create a dynamic for those believing is that religion in which, when they don't 'give', they are then made to feel guilty.


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Q.  I have noticed the desire to do good in people of all evolutionary conditions.  How can one distinguish religious do-gooders from those who are inspired to naturally do good?  Is there a different between distorted and undistorted giving?

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Yes, as just explained. Simple observation of any given individual, in the act of giving, should allow for an understanding of where anyone is 'coming from' in the act of giving.

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Q.  Have all Souls presently living had past lives in the Age of Pisces and its Virgo sub-age?

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No

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Q.  On the geodetic world map, the Pisces zone covers UK, west Africa and Spain, while the Virgo zone covers East Australia (where I live).  With the Transiting Lunar Nodes, is there some special impact upon the people living in these zones?

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The affects of global warming that is causing a rise in the sea levels around the world that is directly affecting many of the islands in the Pacific ocean, the melting of Greenland and the North/South Polls, glaciers, that then puts more fresh water into the sea that, in the end, affects the core circulation patterns of the ocean that are the determinants of weather itself on our Earth, the change of the sea temperatures, the chemistry of the seas themselves, the releasing of methane into the atmosphere due the the warming of the seas and the melting of the permafrost, the ability of the sea to absorb carbon, the bleaching of the coral reefs, the affects upon all forms of sea life which then affects other forms of life, the accelerated mutation of viruses, bacteria, fungus, parasites and the affect this has on all forms of life which then interacts and affects the immune systems within all forms of life which could lead, while the transit of the Lunar Nodes are in Pisces/ Virgo to a mutated virus or bacteria that creates a global pandemic/ crisis,  and for Australia, specifically, the increasing crisis of the fact and crisis of climate change throughout the entire continent which various economic policies, coal mining for example, contribute too.

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Q.  When others are giving to me from the "belief" that they need to repay me because of something I had given to them in the past, what is the best attitude to have?  Reject the gift?  Accept the gift?  Say something?

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It depends on each person, each situation. If you intuitively feel that the one giving to you is in fact doing so that is 'balancing the scale', so to speak, then allow yourself to receive such giving. If you intuitively feel that they are doing so simply because of some inner delusion on their part manifesting as such a belief, then to either simply decline without comment, or to decline with some relevant comment that allows the person to see/ understand the nature of their own delusion, and the reasons for it.

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Q.  With Neptune on the Ascendant, my body is very sensitive to loud noise right now.  What does "noise" correlate to, and what is the deeper meaning for its impact upon the body?

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Noise or sound correlate with Uranus, Aquarius, and the 11th House: sound was set in motion at the moment of the Manifest Creation. Sound is a function of motion where various forms within the Creation interact through motion. It is the interaction that produces the sound or noise: friction. Sound/ noise interacts with the nervous system within the body that then affects the entire physiology of the organism/ body itself including the brain. And, remember, the entire nervous system and the brain, in general, correlates with Uranus, Aquarius, the 11th House, Virgo, Mercury, the 6th House, Gemini, and the 3rd House.

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God Bless, Rad

Linda

Thanks so much, Rad.

The answers you have provided have

clarified so much for me.

Linda

Rad

#68
All,

We can now discuss another core archetype that correlates with Neptune, Pisces, and the 12th House that can be called the 'god complex'. If you have any questions of me after reading and thinking about this please ask.

God Bless, Rad

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                                        NEPTUNE AND THE GOD COMPLEX

One of the archetypes of Neptune correlates to what we can call the 'god complex' wherein the egocentric structure of the Soul can inflate itself, like blowing air into a balloon, to the point of given itself delusions of egocentric grandeur wherein it convinces itself that is has a 'mission' from on high to bring to the world at large in general, and specific communities of people specifically. This is what the German philosopher Nietzsche called 'Zarathustra's" or super-humans.

These Souls thus consider themselves as above and beyond most other humans who are, through implication, inferior to their inner delusions of being superior. These types will then construct and inner language within themselves, delusional, in which they convince themselves that they have some ultimate or superior mission to accomplish that is to benefit the whole in general, and their specific communities of people in which have focused their personal MISSION FROM ON HIGH upon. These communities of people can be anything: the world of art, music, politics, astrology, technologies of all kinds, and so on. And, again, these types of Souls create a language within themselves that reflects these delusions of grandeur, the god complex. Such language can be things like 'I am a being of light' who desires to be in in communion with other 'beings of light', or "God has told me to do the following', 'my authority comes from God", and so on.

Of course human history is full of these types in all fields of endeavor. Insane asylums house Souls who have convinced them self that they are God or variations of God. And these types of Souls all too often use God as their ultimate rational for doing what they do: from the serial killer, political figures, religious figures, to all kinds of unseen humans in their ordinary lives. In other words in worlds large and small the egos of these types of Souls can operate in this way. And when they are confronted by anyone who does not agree with their egocentric delusions of grandeur by way of the god complex they will try to attack and destroy. They all too often create the psychology as a result of the god complex of being a victim to forces of 'persecution' who they convince themselves of are trying to destroy whatever their delusional mission from God is about. All too often they then delude themselves into thinking that 'no one understands me'. When they feel victimized in this way they will then, all too often, resort to creating imaginary realities that are projected onto those forces or others who they judged as to be undermining their god complex, their mission from on high.

Such Souls all too often have a deep inner sense of powerlessness, of being 'nothing', of an inner existential void, of inferiority that then compensates for this by way of blowing into the ego balloon these delusions of egocentric grandeur. In turn this then manifests as a deep Soul desire to be recognized for just how wonderful and special they are.

In lesser degrees any Soul can become intoxicated with itself after some degree of external recognition for something that it has done. The musician who is suddenly famous, the artist, the writer, the actor, the banker, etc., etc. that can then lead to ego inflation's. In so doing they then become superior to others. This is a natural 'temptation' that can occur to a Soul and the ego it creates where temptation as an archetype is Scorpio, 8th house, and Pluto which form a natural trine to Pisces, the 12th House, and Neptune. When this happens such a Soul and it's ego will, at some point, create the necessary crisis that has the intended effect of humiliating the ego to remind the Soul that God is the origin of all things: not the Soul and it's pathetic ego.

This temptation of the Soul to glorify itself through its egocentric structure is further symbolized With the North Node of Neptune being in Leo for all Souls on Earth. One of the core archetypes of Leo is to creatively actualize and give purpose to the current life of the Soul. It is ruled by the Sun which of course is the center of our solar system. So we can then symbolically see that the temptation of the Soul to glorify itself, to consider itself special, to have some degree of the god complex is reflected in this North Node of Neptune being in Leo. The Soul and it's ego then considers itself to be the center of all things in which the rest of life is nothing more than props in it's personal play: life. Props to be used for its own purposes which are rooted in the god complex in some way. Thus, to become some kind of icon in its own way. Such Souls have forgotten that our solar system, and the galaxy that is is within, is of course only a tiny part of the totality of the entire Universe: the South Node of Neptune being in Aquarius for us all.

A Soul that is truly God inspired, who is in alignment with the inner godhead, will never desire to draw attention to itself, it's ego. Such a Soul will always deflect any kind of acclaim: back to God and/ or others who may have helped in whatever it is that has drawn attention to the Soul/ ego for what it has done. Such Souls manifest a sincere and real humility because they are inwardly defined by much larger wholes than them self, wholes in which they are only one part. Not THE part, but one part. One of the stories I remember about JWG is that so many people wanted to project some kind of 'guru' status upon him wherever he went or was. One of the things he would do in order to stop this was to smoke cigarettes. When he would deliberately light up a cigarette in front of such people he said you could literally see these projections become instantly deflated which, he confided, he took some degree of actual glee in.  

As he often said Souls that actually 'have it' don't want it or even realize that which they have, and Soul's that don't have it want it in such a way as wanting to put neon lights around their names: the god-complex. Egocentric delusions of grandeur.  

Beyond the individual this god complex can manifest in whole groupings of people, communities, as well as whole countries where such countries or communities hold some kind of conception of 'God' that is the ONLY CORRECT conception of God. When this is then linked to the human Soul's need to feel secure where security is a function of self-consistency we can now understand how 'God' has been used to purposefully destroy other humans, other communities, as well as whole countries. And this is done, always, IN THE NAME OF GOD. 'God' now becomes a WEAPON OF DESTRUCTION. We will go into this further later on in this thread.

For now we will focus on the individual Soul. When this archetype of Neptune, the god complex, is activated it will manifest through the house and sign of the natal Neptune, and the aspects that it is making to other planets. In the past, prior lives, it can be seen through the South Node of Neptune by house and sign locality, and the placement of its planetary ruler by its own house and sign, and the aspects that it is making to other planets. When this archetype is active the North Node of Neptune by house, sign, and the location of its planetary ruler will correlate to the future directions of this god complex that are integrated and given purpose in the context of the current life.  

With the transiting Lunar South Node now being in Pisces, which ignites this natal structure within the birth chart, the actual house that that transiting S.Node of the Moon is in can now be a potential vehicle through which the "˜god complex' can manifest. With the transiting North Lunar Node being in Virgo it is essential for the Soul to remember / know the difference between being "˜directed' from on high to do this or that, the "˜whispers' from God that we discussed earlier, versus creating some inner delusion of personal grandeur through which they inwardly identify themselves as a defacto god: the god complex. If they don't then they will create crisis for themselves and others where the function and reason for creating those crises is to pop this inner delusional balloon that leads to actual reality. Such crisis created by the Soul when operating as some kind of defacto god, the god complex, typically will manifest as creating circumferences that lead to varying degrees of humiliation. Until the Soul understands why it is creating such circumstances it will all to often use this humiliating circumstances as "˜proof' of how they are being unjustly persecuted and attacked, of creating some kind of rationalization that effectively avoids understanding the reality they have created as defined by the "˜god complex', so that they can sustain the delusion itself.

The house that the transiting Lunar North Node in Virgo is in, combined with the natal house/ sign/ aspects of the natal Mercury, and the location by it's own house, sign, and aspects to the N.Node of Mercury will correlate to the nature of the types of crisis that the Soul can create in order to realign itself with actual reality.  

ahanson

Hi Rad,
I logged on to research my natal Plutos polarity point .. but this conversation has intrigued me. I look forward to diving in this weekend .. surely will be posting some questions. Many thanks! Aimee

ahanson

Hi, I'm not sure how to post a question using a quote.  :)  But my question is: how do I find the S. Node of Mars and the S. Node of Venus? And then of course, of Neptune and Mercury. On page 2 of this subject you suggested we write down "everything" on a sheet of paper to really "know this and feel it." I'm liking this. A lot. But stuck ... didn't realize there are more nodes than just the moon. (Yes, I am a novice .. but able to follow). Fascinating and helpful post/thread, Rad. Many thanks!

Rad


Helena

Hi All,
I'm new to the forum and evolutionary astrology, to which i've been led to since last year.
Right when scorpio became my solar return ascendant i've found JWG's work, the pluto books and evolutionary astrology, with deep thankfulness.

On your recent quote on the planetary nodes, and applying the steps, i came across some questions that hopefully you might help clarify.

In the case of SN aries in the 7/8th house cusp, conjunct venus and chiron, also, conjunct chiron SN, venus NN and Mars NN, all in aries last degrees, 8th house, when you combine pluto in libra in the 1st house, NN libra 1st/2nd house cusp, nodal axis exactly square moon in Capricorn 4th house (skipped steps), and applying EA chart interpretation:

Is there a polarity point of pluto (pluto 13º libra NN24º libra)?

An i understand, the NN libra being the resolution node, with venus (NN ruler) conjunct SN of the moon, NN venus and NN mars, is the soul prevented from actually going forward in this life? Or does the soul evolve by creating new ways to relive the past that become the future, again? the future being this or another life? And also, chiron here meaning forever perpetuating a wound, or otherwise an opportunity of healing deep wounds for a new phase to begin? (virgo asc)

Adding that moon is conjunct pluto SN, jupiter SN and saturn SN, mars in aquarius is conjunct mercury SN, and venus SN is conjunct Neptune SN (aquarius 5th house), mars SN sagittarius conjunct IC and galactic center, can this mean that a long past is deeply ingrained in the soul? (sun in pisces)
Could you help clarify what could be the evolutionary intention in this signature?

Thank you all,
Helena

Linda

Hi Helena,


Welcome to the EA message board.  We don't look at personal charts here, but can answer some of your general questions.  All of these answers are drawn from Rad's quotes in the EA Glossary:


When the North Node is 10 degrees apart from Pluto, or closer, there is no polarity point for Pluto in this case. 


When the Ruler of the North Node is conjunct the South Node, the intention of recovering the skipped steps has just preceded the current life being lived. That means that the Soul has created, just before the current life, circumstances that serve to trigger old dynamics, these dynamics having previously kept the Soul bound to its past. The intention in this life is to make new choices, shown by the house and sign of the North Node, in the face of those circumstances (when they appear again in this life) that trigger the old, past, dynamics. If this is accomplished then the Soul will resolve the skipped steps.


Rad, is it correct . . .

that the NN Venus and NN Mars conjunct the South Node of the Moon, would in fact INTENSIFY the Soul's resistance to making the necessary choices that would allow it to continue to evolve. The houses in which the South Node of Venus, and natal Venus occupy correlate to the dynamics within the Soul that are causing this resistance. Further, the location of the planet Mars by its own house and sign, and aspects to it, will add to what those dynamics have been?


In this way, the Soul does evolve by creating NEW choices for the future to unfold, in the current life, and in future lives to come (North Node and the Pluto polarity point).  These dynamics would have to be developed in a NEW way.


In regard to a natal planet conjunct the collective Nodes (eg Venus conjunct SN Chiron in Aries), all Souls have their unique evolutionary and karmic history that leads the Soul into each life. The collective Nodes all correlate to specific Astrological Ages and sub-ages in which all of us either have lived in those times and/or our consciousness is drawing from those times: the collective consciousness/unconsciousness. When natal planets conjunct those collective Nodes it means that the nature of those Astrological Ages and their sub-ages have been directly experienced by the Soul and is thus conditioning the Soul's consciousness in the current life.


The South Nodes of Pluto, Jupiter, and Saturn are in Capricorn for all of us. The North Nodes of Pluto, Jupiter, and Saturn are in Cancer for all of us. Historically speaking, the South Nodes of these planets are in Capricorn, and that is the time frame in which the transition between the Matriarchy and the Patriarchy occurred. All Souls on Earth as a result are linked to that time whether they actually lived at that time or not. It is the COLLECTIVE MEMORY of that time that all Souls will draw upon as reflected in the current life they are living.


So too with the South Node of Uranus which will be in Sagittarius for all of us, its North Node in Gemini. And the South Node of Neptune is in Aquarius for all of us, and its North Node in Leo. The North Nodes of all of these planets thus correlate to all peoples living on the planet now. They correlate to the evolutionary intentions for the entire species as that species, human beings, continue to evolve as a species. And, of course, the ongoing evolutionary intentions and necessities of the species can only be understood in direct relationship of the past of that species: the South Nodes.


Mars, Mercury, and Venus and their Nodes move through the signs much more quickly that the outer planets do. And these planets all correlate to that which is highly personal and unique to each Soul, its own individual reality that exists within the context of living with all the other humans that are living at the same time. The same principles of the past leading to the moment, and how that moment moves to the future, apply in these Nodes as well of course. The natal sign of these planets is that which is the constant, that which integrates the dynamic tension between the past and the future that is experienced in each moment. This then allows for an evolution to take place within the natal sign and house of these planets.


Hope the above helps,

Linda

Helena

Thank you, Linda, your answer has been very helpful.

I understand the message board is for general questions, so i really appreciate your reply and i'l try to keep this post as general as possible.

From your answer, understanding that there is no polarity of pluto when pluto is near the north node (even slightly more than 10 degrees) as made a big change in my perspective.

I went back to the pluto books, pluto conjunct north node, the glossary, and all shed a new light on the whole evolutionary purpose. Specially the need to find a clear focus to start looking at a chart with a paradoxical signature, reinforced by not only the planets but also the collective planetary nodes and their location.

So, when you mention the planetary nodes of mars, mercury and venus, in that

"The natal sign of these planets is that which is the constant, that which integrates the dynamic tension between the past and the future that is experienced in each moment. This then allows for an evolution to take place within the natal sign and house of these planets"

Is it correct to say that in this case, natal mars in aquarius, being the ruler of the all those nodes in aries, also being in sextile and trine, non stressful aspects, to the south and north nodes of the moon, the planet mars could be the one in condition to help the evolution to proceed in the actual houses of the nodal axis, by way of mars/aquarius archetypes (past)? And if there are more planets in non stressful condition to the south node, can also help facilitating this process?

In that case the question that i still come to is, if you can answer, is in evolving from past to future, when simultaneously the south node of moon conjuncts the collective north node of mars, venus and the planet venus, ruler of the current north node of the moon, the movement of going forward seems do lead exactly to where it was in the first place, like in a loop, again with skipped steps?
Or, if the necessary steps actually are taken, is it possible to say that the evolutionary intention can be to relive the archetypes (aries, libra) going from a situation of distortion/supression (moon cap square nodes and venus) to one of a new (aries) natural way of expression of the same archetypes, not conflicting within the soul?

Thank you again,
Helena