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Bjork, Childhood and Skipped Steps

Started by Sabrina, Dec 12, 2014, 01:54 PM

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Sabrina

I was looking into Bjork's chart recently and found a few things about her evolutionary conditions and am wondering what other people think. (Chart attached) I'm looking to her quotes and her music videos (she has lots of them on youtube) as sources. I am placing her in a transitional state between the 2nd and 3rd levels of individuated consciousness because of her fascination with becoming and creatively actualizing herself and the way that she does not feel the need to fit into a group or society and is increasingly not needing to rebel from it either. Her awareness of her differentness and desire to assert that by making comparisons is apparent, such as saying she doesn't have any interests in politics or feminism. Early experiences in life of feeling really different, having people throw rocks at her, are like karmic relives for her 2nd stage individuation.

Interesting to note, like many musicians I've noticed, she has her Moon in the 12th house, in Scorpio. "I never really understood the word "˜loneliness'." she says, "As far as I was concerned, I was in an orgy with the sky and the ocean, and with nature." (And 9th house Pluto)

She describes her early childhood in these terms:

"I grew up with all these hippies. Ten of them and one of me. None of them wanted to work and spent all their time talking and dreaming and fooling around. 90% of that hippie stuff is just bullshit but the ideals of that generation were very beautiful and powerful and rebellious. I had to dress and feed myself from the time I was six, which meant I became a very organised person. But there came a point when I was about seven or eight, when I saw the absurdity of living in a commune and I said to them, "Why don't you just DO SOMETHING!?"

So in looking at her Pluto in Virgo in the 9th house conjunct Uranus - opposite Saturn in Pisces in the 3rd - I am seeing a dynamic of an evolutionary intent to discover, identify, organize and discern her own truth and cosmology. Mercury is in the 1st house in Sagittarius. Her soul has a strong desire of freedom to act upon her impulses in order to discover truth for herself. The relative disorder of her childhood conditioning (Saturn in Pisces) acted as a catalyst for her to develop the Virgo qualities of organization and discernment. She nearly immediately saw through the delusions of her environment relative to Pisces and through her career has been able to actualize her individual potential (Uranus).

Saturn in Pisces in the 3rd house is her skipped step, resolved through the South Node in Sagittarius in the 1st house. (Echoing 9th house Pluto). Ruler of the SN Jupiter is in the 8th house in Gemini. The North Node is in the 7th house in Gemini, ruler Mercury in the 1st house in Sagittarius. Her Sun additionally is conjunct the South Node. So there is a circular logic in operation here (what else would you call it?) in which both nodes are leading to themes particularly relevant to the other.

What I am looking to deepen here are some of the particularities of examining her Gemini/Sagittarius karma. What does her chart imply about the karma of her Saturn being unintegrated between the two? When her NN is more accentuated, what comes out of balance? My guess is that it is important for her to initiate her own depth work by following her instinct and learning from the symbols that appear (SN and ruler Jupiter in Gemini in the 8th). From this, she can structure her visions (Saturn in Pisces in the 3rd) into art. If her focus, however, is on adapting to others in relationship (NN in Gemini in the 7th), then what? Relative to Saturn in Pisces - perhaps the boundaries of a relationship will become too blurred and she looses herself in them and will then pull out dramatically from relationships and have this as a cycle between extremes: "I'm self-sufficient. I spend a lot of time on my own and I shut off quite easily. When I communicate, I communicate 900 per cent, then I shut off, which scares people sometimes." Maybe it will lead to dishonesty to self and other relative the ruler Mercury in Sagittarius. Or, she kind of articulates it herself here: "Feminists bore me to death. I follow my instinct and if that supports young girls in any way, great. But I'd rather they saw it more as a lesson about following their own instincts rather than imitating somebody."

Thoughts?

cat777

Hi Sabrina,

It sounds like you are right about her Evolutionary Stage. You did a really nice job with this. I need time to reflect on it more but am looking forward to reading what others have to say in relation to you questions. I'm hoping this evolves into a long discussion :-)

cat

Linda

#2
Hello Sabrina,

It was a pleasure reading your excellent analysis.

What I am looking to deepen here are some of the particularities of examining her Gemini/Sagittarius karma. What does her chart imply about the karma of her Saturn being unintegrated between the two?

It's more about Saturnian life lessons that have not been completed in the current life.

-- The skipped steps are in the area of life symbolized by Saturn Pisces 3rd:

communication, learning-teaching, information, opinions, logic, lies, untruth, illusion

-- plus the aspects Saturn makes to other planets:

Saturn conjunct Chiron - wounding others or being wounded with words
Saturn sextile Venus-Mars - relationship with self, what she tells herself, self-messages
Saturn square Mercury - lies, untruth, miscommunication, exaggeration
Saturn trine Moon - self-image, disillusionment, transformation, culmination
Saturn opposite MC-Uranus-Pluto - karmic imperative to share ideas-philosophies

The Saturn archetype is made up of:

-- Saturn Pisces 3rd conj Chiron - wounding others or being wounded

-- South Node Saturn Capricorn 2nd evolving via Cancer 8th - coming out of the well of total self-reliance to merge with others

-- MC Virgo ruled by Mercury - broadcasting ideas-philosophies; crisis-adjustment.  Mutable t-square: Mercury-Pluto-Uranus-Saturn - nervous system, disruption of thought processes, needs to discipline the mind, mental challenges lead to productivity and strength.

-- Ruler of Saturn, Neptune Scorpio 1st conj Ascendant - new evolutionary cycle, conscious desire for depth psychology via following instincts; disillusionment.

-- Capricorn intercepted in the 2nd house containing Venus and Mars, natural rulers of her Nodal houses 1st/7th ... thoroughly developed natural gift of self-reliance since she's been flip-flopping forever between 1st and 7th;  the Soul does not need to develop these areas {intercepted Venus and Mars} any further since Saturn is heavily aspected.

In examining all of the above, the repeating archetypal themes that stand out for me are the Scorpio-8th-Pluto and Pisces-12th-Neptune archetypes in relation to Saturn in the 3rd which seems to point toward courage to express her personal truth in line with natural laws (SN Sag 1st), coming out of communication karma around deception/delusion.


Thanks,

Linda


Sabrina

#3
Whoa that gives me a lot to think about, Linda, and teaches me about how to make more connections I hadn't thought to make before. Could you elaborate on how Saturn being heavily aspected would imply she does not have more work to do on the 1st/7th axis? Is there a rule of thumb here or is it specific to her and her chart? And how do intercepted signs work from the perspective of EA?

All of her lyrics and videos stun me with their symbolism and how relevant they are to her chart and evolutionary journey. She communicates her inner-reality with a lucidity and accuracy (as far as I can tell). I think this is because even if she is wrestling with Piscean themes of illusion, delusion and disillusionment, she is not hiding it or projecting it onto anything other than what it is for her emotionally and experientially. It's raw and right here. Her Sun is conjunct the SN, representing a developed talent of actualization. And then the Pluto-Uranus conjunction in Virgo may represent her level of accuracy of individuating.

This song relates to her aligning with what is natural for her. The second stanza holds a contradiction... she has lost her origin but doesn't want to find it - she wants to go to nature. Viewing nature as separate from her origin? Can anyone see in her music videos both her alignment with and alienation from nature? A good number of the quotes I could find of hers have to do with nature too. She seems to have a blurred boundary between the natural world and the artificial world in her art, like each are very present within the other. It makes sense when she brings the nature into the artificial, and is jarring when she brings the artificial into nature.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5507DPKYk4

"I am leaving this harbor
Giving urban a farewell
Its habitants seem too keen in God
I cannot stomach their rights and wrongs (Virgo 9th house opposite Saturn)

I have lost my origin
And I don't want to find it again
Rather sailing into nature's laws
And be held by ocean's paws

Wanderlust, relentlessly craving
Wanderlust, peel off the layers
Until you get to the core

Did I imagine it would be like this?
Was it something like this I wished for
Or will I want more?

Lust for comfort suffocates the soul
This relentless restlessness liberates me

I feel at home whenever
The unknown surrounds me (Moon in the 12th)
I receive its embrace
Aboard my floating house

Wanderlust, relentlessly craving
Wanderlust, peel off the layers
Until you get to the core

Did I imagine it would be like this?
Was it something like this I wished for
Or will I want more?

Wanderlust from island to island
Wanderlust, united in movement
Wonderful, I enjoy it with you

Wanderlust
Wanderlust
Can you spot a pattern?

Relentlessly restless
Restless relentlessly
Restless relentlessly

Restless relentlessly
Restless relentlessly

Can you spot a pattern?
Can you?
Restless relentlessly"

Pallas

Hi Sabrina,

I noticed this post, read through it and thought to share this regarding the following:

QuoteWhen her NN is more accentuated, what comes out of balance? My guess is that it is important for her to initiate her own depth work by following her instinct and learning from the symbols that appear (SN and ruler Jupiter in Gemini in the 8th). From this, she can structure her visions (Saturn in Pisces in the 3rd) into art. If her focus, however, is on adapting to others in relationship (NN in Gemini in the 7th), then what?

Relative to Saturn in Pisces - perhaps the boundaries of a relationship will become too blurred and she looses herself in them and will then pull out dramatically from relationships and have this as a cycle between extremes: "I'm self-sufficient. I spend a lot of time on my own and I shut off quite easily. When I communicate, I communicate 900 per cent, then I shut off, which scares people sometimes." Maybe it will lead to dishonesty to self and other relative the ruler Mercury in Sagittarius. Or, she kind of articulates it herself here: "Feminists bore me to death. I follow my instinct and if that supports young girls in any way, great. But I'd rather they saw it more as a lesson about following their own instincts rather than imitating somebody."

This soul is working with integration of mutable planets/nodes with skipped steps, thus she is always working with all of these aspects to forge the integration on a regular basis.  

Saturn Pisces in the third, she is learning how to manage all the empathy, sensitivity in a logical structured way.  Boundaries within her own mind, or teaching the collective through her expression about the unconscious. Square the nodes and Mercury, her ability to communicate in the past was muted (language taken from her), now in this life she is bringing all the pieces together, hence all the juxtaposition in her videos/music, living out NN, being in relationship with symbols, depth knowing...she's pretty radical.

Mercury and NN in the 1st square Uranus Pluto, square Chiron - there is a need to express her rage (injustice from past lives) in unique original way.  Pluto rules her moon.  There is a native quality to past lives.

NN 7th, ruled by Venus Capricorn opp Sirius, she's in direct communicate with the ancestors, takes her relationships seriously, though Cap needs alone time, quite, time to harness the inner self, thus the shut off, especially from other people.  Looks like NN 7th is about learning how to be in relationship to herself, rather than others, though others receive from her through her communication, her expression.  That is her offering. And Venus in Cap in the 2nd, she is quite comfortable with herself, very self-reliant.  

Jupiter 8th Gemini - she's expresses her knowledge of symbols in a logically fun dreamy way.

Uranus Pluto new phase, trine Mars 1st quarter - Crisis in Action, she knows who she is and is taking it on in very specific form...period of intense activity.

Hopefully all of this offers something helpful.  I really enjoyed reading and learning about Bjork.

I especially enjoyed her Human Behavior video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDbPYoaAiyc&index=8&list=PLB65C2928AA92A5D6

Pallas

Linda

#5
Hi Sabrina,


Could you elaborate on how Saturn being heavily aspected would imply she does not have more work to do on the 1st/7th axis? Is there a rule of thumb here or is it specific to her and her chart? And how do intercepted signs work from the perspective of EA?


I've corrected my statement; it wasn't very clear.

Correction:

-- Capricorn intercepted in the 2nd house containing Venus and Mars (natural rulers of her Nodal houses 1st/7th) correlates to the thoroughly developed natural gift of self-reliance. The Soul does not need to develop intercepted Venus and Mars (ruled by Saturn) any further within consciousness since Saturn is heavily aspected. Because the archetypes of intercepted Venus and Mars have been thoroughly developed in past lives, they are a natural resource or talent. If there were no aspects to Saturn or planets in the 10th house or Capricorn, then it would mean that the archetypes of intercepted Venus and Mars would need to be developed within consciousness.

Her highly developed gift of lyricism, the artistic expression of emotion in an imaginative and beautiful way, music, etc. come from the psychology of inner hearing that resonates with her essential survival needs on all levels.

So, if the Soul does not have to develop the inner side of Venus, and Mars, any further, then the crux of the matter is to recover the skipped step planet, Saturn Pisces 3rd, via the Resolution Node: South Node Sagittarius 1st:

-  3rd house is YANG - communicative energy going out
-  ruler of Saturn, Neptune 1st - yang, externalization
-  Resolution Node - South Node Sag 1st - yang, externalization
-  to communicate the ever-changing fluctuating viewpoint (Pisces) in terms of Natural Law
-  to develop the left brain via the right brain (Natural Law)
-  to heal disillusionment, and mental-emotional-psychic shock via Natural Law
-  communicate the TRUTH: the projection of ultimate meaning onto ideas that were once
  meaningful and valuable but that had resulted in disillusionment and psychic wounding

It's interesting to note about the Nodes:

(1)  The rulers of the Nodes - Mercury 1st and Jupiter 8th - are in mutual reception.

(2)  The ruler of the North Node is very widely conjunct the South Node.
     
(3)  The ruler of the South Node is very widely conjunct the North Node.

Intuitively, I feel the above means that the flip-flopping action is taking place in the current life with new choices being made relative to each flip-flop that has the effect of evolving both Nodes.

She seems to have a blurred boundary between the natural world and the artificial world in her art, like each are very present within the other. It makes sense when she brings the nature into the artificial, and is jarring when she brings the artificial into nature.

Resolution:

The Saturn will change to act like an anchoring into ideas and beliefs that are based on Natural Laws so that a new UNdistorted reality is created.


Hope the above helps.


Thanks,

Linda



Rad

Hi Sabrina, Linda, Pallas

Excellent EA work ..

God Bless, Rad

Linda

Thanks Rad!   :D



Sabrina,

In answer to your question, "How do intercepted signs work from the perspective of EA?"

here's a quote from the EA Glossary:


Intercepted Houses

Generally speaking, when you find intercepted signs there are two reasons for it from an evolutionary point of view. The first is that these specific archetypes that are intercepted have been so thoroughly developed prior to the current life that the Soul does not need to develop those areas any further. If Aquarius is intercepted, yet the planetary ruler, Uranus is heavily aspected, or the Soul has a stacked 11th house, etc., then you can deduce that this case applies to that Soul. The second reason is that these archetypes have not been fully developed prior to the current life, again necessarily so, and that in this life the Soul is intended to develop those areas within consciousness. If there are no aspects to Uranus, or planets in the 11th house or Aquarius, then you could most likely determine this is the case for the Soul. These archetypes will become active through transit and progression of the natal chart for example. (Deva)


Thanks,

Linda