Volunteer ~ "Jen" ~ EA Personal In-depth Chart and Transit Analysis

[dawncerise]

Hello All!

Having remarked on the way that Jen's Sun and Mercury are Conjunct and in Mutual Reception as well as her Moon and Mars in a Water Trine Mutual Reception, I noticed I was slightly stingy in my comment... I didn't share enough of what I was getting out of the picture... rectifying that now.

I believe this emphasis imparts a significant emotionalism (perhaps emotional cognizance along the lines of a deeply felt gut intuition) to Jen's mental creative spark as well as denoting a real belief that her husband will be the way or mode through which she will discover or be able to express this part of herself. This may be somewhat traditional or possibly chauvinistic, but I think a strong 7th focus as we are seeing here can create that no matter the era in which you find yourself.

I also see that her 3rd House Vesta in Taurus tips a very closely concentrated Yod focused by Uranus based by the generational Pluto Neptune Sextile... I would say that this Yod seems to support the idea presented above very nicely. Which creates this beautifully balanced synchronicity to her chart for me. When I see a chart repeating a theme in many varied ways I feel that it is a lifetime of transition to or through that message. I would not be surprised if Jen has some psychic ability which, if as of yet unrecognized, only needs dedication to come forth. Perhaps hubby provides the foundation and funds the "day to days" so she can explore this realm more deeply? Even this seems supported by the Trine from Saturn to Vesta, Sextile to Uranus.

Of course, there are so many other possibilities, but that's what I have so far...
Dawn Cerise

[Linda]

Jen's Chart

[Linda]

Hello Dawncerise,


Welcome and thanks for sharing your observations.

The Finger of Fate made up of apex Vesta with Pluto and Neptune is incredibly tight @ 17 degrees!

Vesta represents a highly significant principle the pressure of which can lead to the fated fork in the road.    

Uranus directly opposite the apex Vesta is an extremely sensitive point.  

We should watch the transits to this sensitive point ~ and Jen can relay her experiences if she wishes.  

This year there were two Saturn transits conjunct Uranus @ 17.25 Scorpio taking place on:

19 June 2014 - Saturn Rx

21 August 2014 - Saturn Direct



Hello Jen,

Do you recall what happened to you on the above dates?    

It should be interesting.  Not to worry if you cannot remember.

Also, Jen, it would be cool if you could please confirm or refute Dawncerise's findings in her above post.

When doing this, could you please use the "Quote" function.



Thanks!

Linda

[Jen]

Hello Cat, Dawncerise, Linda and all,

Firstly, Cat, In response to your question..

Then looking at the 7th house, this symbolizes what you need to do in order to actualize the Polarity Point. With the Sun conjunct the North Node, Venus, and Saturn in Virgo, it seems that you are being called on to serve others whom you form relationships in some way. This ties in with everything you said about the stellium in your previous post. Add Mercury (North Node Ruler) which is conjunct Jupiter, and both part of this stellium, to the picture, what story comes to your mind in terms of where you have been and where you are going?  It looks like an interesting story :-)

I feel a little unsure of what all of these archetypes together mean but what comes to mind is a story of communicating my personal truth to people and possibly healing them in some way. I believe I have been rejected and judged for my truth in past lives but have still held on to it. I see how others reject what is naturally true to them because of society and patriarchy and I do help empower others to accept themselves and stand up for their own truth and needs.
I have many times been the friend whom the controlling husband of a friend does not like, or want around his wife as I would empower them to think for themselves. I have also had many experiences where I myself have been physically emotionally attacked for sticking to my own beliefs in the past.


Now to Dawncerice..

I believe this emphasis imparts a significant emotionalism (perhaps emotional cognizance along the lines of a deeply felt gut intuition) to Jen's mental creative spark as well as denoting a real belief that her husband will be the way or mode through which she will discover or be able to express this part of herself...

I would not be surprised if Jen has some psychic ability which, if as of yet unrecognized, only needs dedication to come forth. Perhaps hubby provides the foundation and funds the "day to days" so she can explore this realm more deeply?

The above statements are correct. I do have a deeply felt gut intuition that is almost impossible to ignore.

My spiritual life began upon meeting my husband. Upon meeting I experienced such universal forces guiding me into the direction of the relationship that it was an awakening experience. He also introduced me to Astrology which gave me the proof I needed of our connection to the universe. We share a life devoted to our spiritual work, our family and each other. We both hold space for each other's spiritual paths and always do everything to support whatever each may be called upon to do to actualise.



And Linda, I do happen to remember what happened on those dates..

19 June 2014 - Saturn Rx 

On this day, my husband, children and I traveled to a small community in the countryside that I lived in as a child. We stayed with old friends that I hadn´t seen for many years. It was a lovely trip that gave a feeling of the simplicity I was seeking in how to live home life in connection to nature.

21 August 2014 - Saturn Direct

What I remember from this day is that I was confused about how to live, what I resonated with in terms of many different approaches to nurturing the body and soul. I came to the conclusion that evening that I would just do what feels right in any given moment, instead of committing to a philosophy that might be difficult to stay with. As I went to bed I read a post written by Ari that had the very words I was feeling and felt that it confirmed this to me. It read..

"I can only have faith that as I discover more of the truth in all the crevices of my life that I will ever align with the path that is so right for me. A path that does not assert rules and dogmas, a path that does not sacrifice the means for the sake of the ends, a path that is not lofty or complicated. Just a path that embodies the sacred in, though and as everything. Simple and Awesome in the truest sense. No teacher can succeed in giving me the lifestyle I seek. For this lifestyle must come from within. It must come from self knowledge - which is not something anyone can impart unto another"¦"
Thank you Ari! 


Thank You all!
Jen

[cat777]

Hi Jen

I believe I have been rejected and judged for my truth in past lives but have still held on to it.

Look at your 11th house. The 11th house ruler, Uranus is in the 9th house. The 11th house has Capricorn on the cusp ruled by Saturn in Virgo in the 7th House. This goes with what you are saying. If you focus on this and add all of the Saturn and Uranus aspects to this, it will give you more information about these past life experiences in which you were persecuted for your beliefs. Can you do that? Give it a try. Write it all down on a piece of paper with the keywords/archetypes. Meditate on it. See what comes to mind.  And then try to tie it all back to Pluto :-)

cat

[dawncerise]

On this day, my husband, children and I traveled to a small community in the countryside that I lived in as a child. We stayed with old friends that I hadn´t seen for many years. It was a lovely trip that gave a feeling of the simplicity I was seeking in how to live home life in connection to nature.




Dear Jen & All,
How poetic that Saturn transiting Rx should take you back your childhood home. Retracing earlier steps to learn anew from the experience is the true treasure of Saturn Rx... Also beautifully represented in getting back to foundational basics, as it were. Totally loving the blatant "rightness" of the symbolism...
Dawncerise

[Linda]

Hi Jen and everyone,


From time to time, I will be posting excerpts from the EA Glossary that will correspond to your EA signature.  Everyone is invited to add further meanings as we go along.

Set out below is the primary evolutionary/karmic axis which is the fundamental root of the chart.  The entire birth chart is properly understood relative to this foundation.  


PRIMARY EVOLUTIONARY/KARMIC AXIS


-  Pluto Libra 8th
-  South Node Pluto Capricorn 11th
-  North Node Pluto Cancer 5th
-  South Node Pluto Ruler:  Saturn Virgo 7th
-  North Node Pluto Ruler:  Moon Scorpio 9th
-  Aspects from all of the above to other planets
-  Planetary Nodes can be examined for more information

   -  South Node Pisces 1st
   -  North Node Virgo 7th
   -  South Node Ruler:  Neptune Sagittarius 10th
   -  North North Ruler:  Mercury Leo 7th
   -  Pluto Polarity Point Aries 2nd
   -  Aspects from all of the above to other planets
   -  Planetary Nodes can be examined for more information

         -  Then examine the rest of the chart


In EA analysis the house always comes first as the foundation for any given symbol, therefore we examine Pluto in the 8th house first.


PLUTO IN THE 8TH HOUSE

Scorpio is the archetype through which we come face to face with who we are, and who we are not, and cannot be. Each of us is unique. Each of us experiences life in our own unique way. Because the evolutionary impulse is to evolve, 8th house people desire to transform their limitations by forming relationships to things that symbolize what they feel they need in order to evolve beyond those limitations. This implies that something exists that they are not, or do not already have. This leads to experiences of power and of powerlessness. The evolutionary impulse has required that they experience their limitations while simultaneously metamorphosing them. They cannot just say it's fine the way it is. They have become aware of universal forces beyond the limitations of their own individuality. They are required to merge with other sources of power to move beyond their limitations. They have learned how to absorb within themselves the power of whatever symbols of power they formed a relationship to. They become that which they have formed a relationship to. The nature of what symbolizes power to them depends on what they perceive is needed to move beyond existing limitations. These can include death, sex, ritual, taboos, relationships, money, status, a system of knowledge (astrology, religion, philosophy), etc. An intrinsic problem here is compulsion.

The experiences of power and powerlessness produce cyclical internal and external confrontations. They lead to a continual death-rebirth of the person's awareness. This correlates to reincarnation, the progressive need to eliminate all desires preventing a direct merging with God. Because of the Soul's dual desire nature, there is also a need to stabilize the current boundaries. This creates intense conflict between the Soul's dual desires, to separate and to merge back. The stabilized boundaries eventually become limitations to the ongoing need to move beyond limitation, necessitating a further confrontational crisis resulting in the removal of the current boundaries, which creates the desire to stabilize the new boundaries, etc. etc. The desire to merge back is the stronger of the two desires. The extent of disruption the person experiences through this process will depend on their degree of resistance to the impulse.

Scorpio is the archetype through which humanity psychoanalyzes itself. The confrontation and crisis force this necessary analysis. "Why am I like this? Why do I function this way? Why, why, why?" People with this placement want to know the bottom line of any situation. They are natural psychologists. Because they have been dealing with inner confrontation for many lifetimes, they have a well-developed awareness of their own motivations, intentions, desires, and emotional patterns. In the negative state, people with this placement may manipulate others, to be in power positions. They do this by making others dependent on them. They focus on the weakest point in the other person and put it down. This is due to their own subconscious fear of having their authority undermined. In the positive state, they can help others see and understand how and why they are the way that they are, and to help them purge negative patterns that prevent growth. They will give power TO others rather than using power to control them.

Pluto in the 8th house demands direct experience - "prove it to me". Through direct experience they merge with the transformative symbol they have selected and BECOME the symbol. The 8th house also demands that the individual make choices about whom to be involved with, whom to commit to in relationship. They are learning to choose from among a variety of people another who resonates with their own needs, desires, karma, etc. In the 7th house we learn what we need from relationship. In the 8th house we already know this and are learning to make appropriate choices. At the core level they seek relationship with either someone who symbolizes something that the individual desires, or with someone who is looking to them as the symbol of transformation that person wants in their own life. Various degrees of use and manipulation will occur in either case, leading to emotional dependence. The need to unite with symbols creates the need for sexual union in this type of relationship, as the sexual experience creates the necessary penetration and merging of the Souls. We take in, and take on, those with whom we have sexually merged. An exchange of karma takes place through the exchange of sexual fluids, and through the merging of the physical, emotional, and etheric bodies. The inherent 8th house problem is using or manipulating others to get one's own needs met. Because the needs keep changing, typically they maintain the relationship only as long as it fulfills the current need. After that, from the 8th house person's perspective, the relationship has become stagnant. On the other hand there is a conflicting desire for commitment. This can manifest as attractions to other people that would threaten the existing relationship if followed. These temptations are powerful because they symbolize change vs. the perceived stagnation in the existing relationship. Resistance to the impulse can repress the temptation into the subconscious. Yet the need to transform the stagnation they are experiencing is real. The temptations become stronger.

Sometimes these people will manipulate and maintain a relationship for as long as their need lasts, and then move on. Often they use sex to get what they need. Sometimes sex is the reason for the involvement, though they don't admit that to themselves. Because of unresolved issues left from past life encounters of this nature, the people they are attracted to will be those they've been involved with in past lives. The attractions can be compulsive. There is often irrational behavior, from a this-life perspective. The source is past life experiences of abandonment, betrayal, or violations of emotional trust that subconsciously "˜bleed through' into this life. Others adapt the strategy of maintaining a situation to the bitter end, resisting all temptations to change it. This produces emotional withdrawal, and can lead to near-catatonic ways of coping with their own life. The root of this is the need to learn commitment. It occurs with one with whom there have been past life difficulties or leavings. Through this determination to stay they are fulfilling the past life karma.

In either of these strategies, when one person finally leaves, negative behavior can result since one or both may feel they have totally emotionally invested self in the relationship. The recommended strategy is to choose partners who are willing to change and evolve. The essence of "Soul Mates" is to promote the spiritual development of each person because of the relationship. Confrontations and growth occur but they promote growth rather than degenerate into negative or vindictive behaviors. Many of these people have had a series of very upsetting prior lives, either through karmic necessity, or through too much emotional dependence. If the individual had patterns of abusing sex to get what they wanted, they may find they are the recipients of similar behavior. Most of these people come into this life with a defensiveness and suspicion of other people's motives and intentions. It can take a very long time for such a person to truly trust another.

(Paraphrased from JWG's Pluto Vol. 1 and the School's DVD Course)


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Jen,

I'm just trying to gauge if all of the above applies to you.  Are you aware of these dynamics?  Is there anything written above that you have not experienced?  Does anything stand out more than the rest?  

Coming up in a few days, I'll post on Pluto in Libra.


Thanks,

Linda

[Chuck]

Hi Linda,

Wow!  That was some Post...deliciously intimate in its Pluto/8th detail.  And I can relate to every word in it, as I'm heavily 'Scorpiod'.  Back in the 50's there was a TV show called 'I led three lives'.  Oh, how many times I've thought of that show while seemingly pulled, disguises and all, without conscious consent, into abyss after abyss"¦

"¦ scrambling, driven compulsively to find that bottom line...hiding secret things (one life), while attempting to live the individuated (2nd life), straddling both polarities ...a water-skier with one foot on a dark shark, the other on a light one, scared to 'death' every moment that he will be split and annihilated...not knowing which he is...which half will 'win'.  Who the heck am I"¦really?    It consumes. It traumatizes, it exasperates"¦but at the same time, it exhilarates.  So he continues to ski, thinking he is smart enough to control the man-eating sharks.  Then"¦splash!  Ouch!
 
Then, somehow, after the plunge, he is renewed, knowing a little more than he did.
Thank God for Scorpio resiliency.  Resiliency is a Pluto gift.  Without it we could not recover from "˜Pluto-shock'.

The "˜detective' is relentless as a pissed-off Colombo.  Appearing to "˜give up', he keeps re-entering darkened rooms"¦always pressing ahead.  He could not stop if he wanted to, manipulating his prey into an inescapable corner with his secret tricks.  Truth?  Who knows the Truth?  Who can answer my question?

Sensitive to the slightest of nuances, the Pluto-person is cut deeply by insensitivity"¦and is totally attracted to the sensitive"¦the Princess who feels the pea"¦the Angel who understands.  His rampant insecurities are easily triggered.  The Princess knows instinctively how to soothe them.  If only he knew, if only he could accept that the Princess is he"¦that biting sharks are neutralized by love"¦that Oneness is his natural state.  He must, must, must find his way home.

He cannot be described as insincere as he makes his way homeward.  As his Soul evolves from one stage into the next, the manipulations and betrayals become completely unconscious, for a spiritual philosophy dominates his actions"¦and his conscious choices.  For the life of him, he cannot understand why he loves so strongly, so sincerely, yet continues to hurt those he loves most"¦hurts them badly.  
These are necessary crises to aid his continuing evolution.  The extremes grow greater, the dissatisfaction more intense the more he tries to do what is "˜right'.  Finally, the intense pressure pops him like a burnt piece of toast, out of the fire and into the realization that he is not the toaster"¦he was never in control.  He surrenders"¦

(Scorpio Asc, 12th house Scorpio Moon"¦exactly Square 9th house Pluto, which is exactly conjunct North Node.  Saturn, ruler of Sun, in 8th).

Hi Jen!
That was meant as an emotional complement to Linda's superb post"¦inspired by it.  My questions for you are, with Pluto ruling your 9th, how does Pluto in your 8th affect your conscious strategy for finding absolute "˜meaning'?  And how does Moon/Uranus in the 9th play out?

[Linda]

Hi Chuck,


I like your questioning because it adds another layer to Jen's Pluto in the 8th house dynamics.

You are basically saying that with Pluto 8th being Jen's "bottom-line" Soul dynamics, it is tied into the 9th house because Pluto rules the 9th house.  The 9th house contains 2 planets in Scorpio: Moon and Uranus.

In EA, the planet, sign and house are ONE ARCHETYPE.  Therefore Jen's 8th house, her Pluto, and the sign Scorpio are one archetype.  

House, sign and planet = one archetype

In EA we look at houses, signs, and planets as the same - 1st house, Aries, Mars all the same. The Soul combines them in different ways to deliver the important messages to itself through the vehicle of you, in more than one way. It's fine while learning EA to concentrate on just the houses or signs as long as you keep in mind they are all really the same. There's only so much the brain can assimilate at once, and segmenting it is a valid approach for some students. (Steve)

The Moon and Uranus in Scorpio therefore form a very important component of who she is on a Soul level.  Her Soul description could include:  power of ingenuity, objective, authentic, naturally intimate (Uranus in Scorpio);  and the Moon in Scorpio in the Spiritual evolutionary condition would indicate Soul-awareness.

Spiritual State

. . . Progressively, in this Spiritual state of evolution, the very center of gravity within the Soul's consciousness shifts from the subjective ego to the Soul itself. Once the center of gravity shifts to the Soul, then in the context of any given life the Soul is then able to simultaneously experience its specific individuality as reflected in the ego, while at the same time experiencing, being centered in, the Soul . . . (Rad)


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Thank you for expanding upon Jen's Pluto Soul dynamics in this way.

Btw, I love your creative writing style.  This is a great way to describe the Scorpio archetype!!!  I hope you will join us again to share more of your work over the year.  

Warmly,

Linda

[Linda]

YOD:  Neptune - Pluto - Vesta (apex) - Uranus (opposite apex)

Jen said:

21 August 2014 - Transiting Saturn Direct conjunct Uranus 

What I remember from this day is that I was confused about how to live, what I resonated with in terms of many different approaches to nurturing the body and soul. I came to the conclusion that evening that I would just do what feels right in any given moment, instead of committing to a philosophy that might be difficult to stay with. As I went to bed I read a post written by Ari that had the very words I was feeling and felt that it confirmed this to me. It read..

"I can only have faith that as I discover more of the truth in all the crevices of my life that I will ever align with the path that is so right for me. A path that does not assert rules and dogmas, a path that does not sacrifice the means for the sake of the ends, a path that is not lofty or complicated. Just a path that embodies the sacred in, though and as everything. Simple and Awesome in the truest sense. No teacher can succeed in giving me the lifestyle I seek. For this lifestyle must come from within. It must come from self knowledge - which is not something anyone can impart unto another"¦"
Thank you Ari! 

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What was illuminated (Uranus) on that day was your commitment (Saturn) to truth and Natural Law (9th).

Let's see over the year if the theme you describe above keeps repeating when transiting planets conjunct Uranus (sensitive midpoint in the Yod).

Thanks,

Linda

[Simon]

Hi everyone.

The thread is going along nicely, I am hoping to post my thoughts very shortly.

[Jen]

Hi Cat and all,

Look at your 11th house. The 11th house ruler, Uranus is in the 9th house. The 11th house has Capricorn on the cusp ruled by Saturn in Virgo in the 7th House. This goes with what you are saying. If you focus on this and add all of the Saturn and Uranus aspects to this, it will give you more information about these past life experiences in which you were persecuted for your beliefs. Can you do that? Give it a try. Write it all down on a piece of paper with the keywords/archetypes. Meditate on it. See what comes to mind.  And then try to tie it all back to Pluto :-)

When connecting to the feeling of being rejected for my beliefs I feel that they are more about a natural state of being that of an actual belief system. It is about my own rejection of the patriarchal conditioning that has brought the persecution and made me feel alone in my truth.

I saw a film many years ago which always stayed with me as I connected so deeply to the story. It is called "The Magdalene Sisters" about young girls who were sent to the Magdalene asylums in Ireland for "crimes" such as flirting, speaking up after being raped or having a child out of wedlock etc. These were institutions for women who were labelled as "fallen" by their families or society, and were maintained by individual religious orders in the Roman Catholic Church in Ireland.  Magdalene Asylum's philosophy is to help young women return to God's grace through prayer, hard work and other forms of penance.

The trailer gives a fairly good picture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhXKI9tAI_M and you can clearly see this reflected in the archetypes in my chart.

Jen

[cat777]

Hi Jen,

Thanks for sharing that. This looks like an interesting movie. I was just reading about it on Wikipedia: 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magdalene_Sisters

Being that you connected so deeply to the story is meaningful. I guess you feel as though you had a similar experience in the past, meaning a situation similar to this. I'm thinking about seeking this movie out and watching it. :-) 

[Jen]

Hi Cat, Yes it is definitely worth watching. ;-)

Linda and all,

Regarding the Pluto in the 8th house. I do resonate with the Pluto 8th house archetype and I am very much aware of the dynamics.

In my own expression, I have mainly desired to change myself in order to transform my limitations. I will perceive the limitations within myself and do what I need to do to transform them. Many times this has required learning something new, merging with that and then applying it to my life. I would also confront any fears and transform them.

As a child I was very aware of death, that everything will die and nothing is constant. I remember feeling ok with the idea of death and didn´t fear it. I would see it as the ultimate freedom. I used to do things like ride my bicycle through dangerous intersections with my eyes closed.

In my past relationships I have found it easier to be emotionally removed or detached, to protect myself from eventual abandonment, betrayal or loss. I would not share my intimate feelings or vulnerabilities with anyone. I have had long term relationships and I have initiated the separation myself each time, but it has been on a mutual ground.

I have definitely had to learn lessons in emotional commitment in relationships, also to find the strength to be open and vulnerable regardless of the knowledge that everything might change.

I feel like I have ended a paragraph in my life and been reborn into a new chapter so I express myself in past tense of how the energies have manifested. Now everything is different. I feel very aware and conscious of my outmoded expressions and always choose to embrace my fears and move through them. I am fully exposed now and feel no need to hide behind any emotional walls.


Let me know if you would like me to elaborate further on anything.

Jen

[Jen]

Hi Chuck,

Thank you for your creative description of the Scorpio archetype 

Regarding your question..

with Pluto ruling your 9th, how does Pluto in your 8th affect your conscious strategy for finding absolute "˜meaning'? 

I will need proof and cannot merely believe anything. I either know it or not. This is, of course, always changing and evolving.

And how does Moon/Uranus in the 9th play out?

This has played out on so many different levels throughout my life. From constantly moving homes to being  aware of past life memories. Linda described it perfectly in her post

The Moon and Uranus in Scorpio therefore form a very important component of who she is on a Soul level.  Her Soul description could include:  power of ingenuity, objective, authentic, naturally intimate (Uranus in Scorpio);  and the Moon in Scorpio in the Spiritual evolutionary condition would indicate Soul-awareness.

I resonate with all of the above.

Thank you both!
Jen